Hi There, we have the same KUBOTA diesel and had the same issue; pump not strong enough to pull enough fuel.. We now run 1/4” copper line, no check valve and installed a 12 VDC inline fuel pump. We next installed a normally open pressure switch in an oil port. When the engine cranks, oil pressure builds, switch closes, fuel pump comes on, diesel line is pressurized and engine runs like a charm. When engine stops, fuel pump stops. Hope this helps.
I’m binge watching the three episodes I missed. I live in Spruce Pine, North Carolina and our area was devastated by hurricane Helene. We finally got power back yesterday after 17 days. Still very spotty internet. We have many folks who live in areas that can’t be reached because bridges are out and roads were completely destroyed. Mudslides have destroyed roads that are our only way out of the mountains. Today it took us most of the day to make a trip for groceries that normally would take 2 hours. People still missing with no idea where to look. The sky has been filled with Chinook helicopters and Blackhawks, roads lined with power trucks, people coming in from all over the country bringing supplies. It’s absolutely surreal here, we thought we might be safe in these western mountains but we weren’t. Some areas got 36” of rain. But back to you guys-fantastic show-you never disappoint and this brought some sense of normalcy to a very disturbing 2 and one half weeks. Thanks so much, you guys are the best I just saw your Facebook post that Bandit passed. I’m so sorry , but you warned us he wasn’t doing well. I pray you will be comforted knowing he is not suffering. I do hope you got the generator working. Sorry I wrote so much.
I have the very same basic tank (Greer, 500 gallon) and (35kw) diesel engine setup as you similarly have, and it has run automatically without fuel delivery issues whatsoever now for 22 straight years here in south-central Alaska. Forget your entire top tank offtake connection that you have already made, get rid of that, and install in the same hole at the top a Krueger Sentry Gauge so you visually know what your tank has left in it, so you can reorder fuel as needed. I then installed a Golden Rod fuel filter off of the tank valve that you have already installed at the bottom (so you will be doing gravity fuel feed for both lines), that way you can change the fuel filter element (rare). On the outlet side of the Golden Rod filter, I installed a 3/8" copper tee, and installed a similar globe shutoff valve for each tee so that I can shut-in any of the two copper feed lines while leaving the other one live, whenever needed. I then ran 3/8" copper line (refrigerant line) off of both shut-off outlets, but I used a 3/8" flare fitting connection for each copper line (don't use compression fittings to connect to the outlet of these shutoff valve) as you don't want these to ever come loose and leak, which can happen if a strong earthquake or Moose, as some Moose in my area seem to like the taste of diesel at these fittings. Spiral the copper lines at least two turns so that your outside flare connections don't get undue stress from the usual winter frost heaves beneath your concrete pad. Then run the lines into your building at same two wall penetration holes, connect one line to the rubber generator feed line as you illustrated, and run the other line to your boiler connection.
This is the idea I had as well. Use gravity to your advantage. The only concern I would have would be a way to rid the water that eventually will settle at the bottom of the tank from condensation which would freeze in the lines or find it's way to the generator. Does the Golden rod filter compensate for water?
@@bain5872 Yes, the golden rod housing is fully transparent around its entire filter (if water ever reaches the filter, it automatically shuts in fuel flow, and it has never happened with my setup). You can also visually see water appear at the base of the transparent housing as well (not happened yet with my setup), and below that base housing is a manual hand twist drain valve to drain off any water. The first filter has already processed 8000 gallons of diesel over the past 22 years, and still no water present from condensation and/or contaminated diesel fuel.
Hey Eric and Ariell, We have been fans of your channel since your Oregon days, and we love your informative and beautifully presented videos. While we must deal with diesel turning to gel here in Australia, we are fortunate not to face the extreme challenges you meet in Alaska with the super-low temperatures. On our farm in the Snowy Mountains, we built a super-insulated shed over the tank and the generator to prevent animal damage and the diesel from turning into gel in the fuel lines during freezing overnight temperatures. It worked like a charm! We set up a gravity fed fuel line with a water filter and on/off tap in copper pipe. Hope this helps.
Seems like others have “been there, done that” already. Sounds like some great advice to me. Makes me want to get a 500 gallon diesel tank and generator! 🙂
Honestly im just wondering if theres anything y'all CAN'T do! I love this channel so much. All the harvesting and work on everything. Its so wholesome and fun to watch
I'm 78 yo granny that knows nothing about electricity BUT I watched to the end and understood most of what you were saying! As Gomer Pile would say, "Surprise, surprise". I just love your channel. Did you ever think - when you were a 9 yo boy - that you would be doing this in Alaska and actually getting it done right? LOL You give us all hope in the younger generation. THANK YOU!
Amen to that granny! I'm 63 and I learn something new every time I watch this channel. Whether it be mechanics, gardening, cooking, hunting, fishing or team work, I always walk away happy!❤
He is very skilled, but he’s not alone. Anyone who lives in the country or on a farm or ranch learns many such skills that may seem amazing to anyone who lives in a place where you can get someone else to do things.
One thing for certain!! I wouldn't last a a week in Alaska!! All this off grid survival stuff is so confusing but Eric and Ariel can do just about any task they try! They never do anything half way they're always all in!! 😮😮❤
Super great work, PLEASE mount the controller to the wall or anywhere but on the generator, the vibration will eventually loosen the screws on the terminals and you'll get all sorts of arcing and chatter. Love the videos you amazing people!
I would have my feed line to the generator be the bottom side line. Then you have the weight of the "water column" helping to push the fuel to the fuel pump. Then just have the fuel return go in the top. No need for a check valve. Maybe someone else already suggested this. I really enjoy your videos and how far your homesteads have come since your move from the lower 48. Keep up the great work. 👍🏻
It looks SOOOOO cold there . I don’t think I could live there when it’s bitter cold ,and I’d have to take a bath in bug repellant in the summer. My hats off to those of you who live there year around
Agree, you can still have both feeds from the bottom. Fuel return and the pressure required I have no idea, but would expect that line to return into the top of the tank. The pump returns the fuel as well??
🤣🤣🤣 The end there was pretty funny! The variety and breadth of knowledge and ingenuity you guys have is amazing. Once those parts come in and get installed, and the maintenance is done, you'll have a great automated generator back-up system for your batteries. Your woodshed is full, your pantry and freezer stocked, and it's looking like you're almost ready for winter. You had an incredibly productive summer getting the garden fenced and in, the quanset hut insulated, and the wood boiler stove hooked up, etc. Now this. Really impressive...way to go!
Notice in one of your recent videos you were dealing some with insects and pest and slugs. A couple that has a channel called North to Alaska they were sharing their garden experience. The planted a lot of marigolds in their vegetable garden and it controls the slugs and insects. I vaguely remember my parents doing that back in the '40s when I was a kid. May be something to it. My wife has tried it also and she says it works. LOVE YOUR SHOW.
I was in cringe mode when I saw how the fuel was being fed from the tank to the generator. Fortunately, someone has already posted the size solution that will work. Getting that generator going means crossing a lot of bridges. So glad you have troubleshooting skills that this experience helped you to build upon. Your willingness to do and learn anything that helps you live your life better, is inspirational.
Yes, Eric is "The Fixer!" He thinks like an engineer. Ariel is amazing at troubleshooting too. Between the two of them, there is no issue they can't solve. This is an essential skill when you live the way they do.
Connect the suction/supply line to the generator on the bottom of the tank connection. The return line can be left in the top connection of the tank. The suction/supply line will then have positive suction head. The current setup causes a negative pump suction head and somewhat defeats the purpose of having the tank elevated. Smaller piping sizing is a good idea. Also no need for a check valve with positive suction head. 👍🏻
Diesel tech here, as a few others mentioned an electric fuel lift pump would help, smaller lines too. Also we use just flapper style check valves in our fuel systems on 60 liter diesel engines, when empty gravity can make them open so they are light and allow flow, but the fuel can't flow back because that flapper opens only one way ya know. Your videos with using equipment, installing it, and maintaining it are always some of my favorite. I like how you guys always try to make things right and proper in every project you take on and keep yourselves and your work so civilized in every video.
Waaaay back in the past I was a marine engineer and for a setup like yours I'd put a daily use tank in the room with the generator with a separate pump or gravity feed to keep that topped up and then gravity feed the generators fuel pump. Added benefit of keeping the diesel that you want to start the generator with a bit warmer. You could easily automate topping off the daily use tank or just make it part of your daily routine. You would not need to run your return line outside the building either.
We've had Generac stand-by whole house generator for our last 3 houses, and a portable one for our home before that. They literally saved our bacon when we had a tornado pass near us that took out the power lines, and also after a tremendous ice storm that also took out the lines. When you incorporate the cost into the cost of the whole house when being built, it isn't that expensive to install and the peace of mind is priceless. Glad you guys have one now. With the generator, the solar system and the wood stove, you are sitting pretty good. Enjoy!
In my experience any plumbing project is at least 3 trips to the hardware store, brave and skilled (and lucky) people get it done in one. NOTE I'm not an expert but I would get your generator's battery up off the floor as the concrete will drain the battery over time, IJS. Thanks for sharing
That old myth of batteries on concrete has been debunked.for many, many years. We were taught that as kids even though my dad should have known better. Do even the most minimal online search and you will see. There is NOTHING special about concrete floors that discharge batteries! PLEASE, STOP SPREADING THAT OLD WIVES TALE.
Make sure your fill and vent pipes going into the tank have thread sealant on them as well. If not you’ll get rain and snow melt water in the tank. I highly recommend a roof over it! -Your friendly oil burner technician from Maine who works with outside tanks. Looks great !
Been to a few northern locations where they put the diesel fuel tank in a heated shelter to avoid gelling. If I recall they would get -58C temperatures. Our coaxial connectors were popping of the cables so we had to wrap them with eaves heating cable, good times!!!
Internet says: Diesel begins to freeze at a higher temperature than gasoline. As it freezes, it begins to gel. Typically, this can happen anytime the temperature drops below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, but most often when the temperature hits 15 degrees. Gelling occurs when paraffin wax within diesel fuel solidifies and bonds together at extremely low temperatures. This is known as the fuel's cloud point, which for No. 2 diesel is typically around 14°F. Using high-quality cold-weather diesel additives, you can prevent the diesel fuel from thickening in the first place. Besides the anti-gelling qualities, a few other advantages of using anti-gelling additives are: Improvement in cold flow. Reduction in cold filter plugging point. So what steps will you be taking to avoid these problems?
Petroleum guy here. As far north as they are, I would venture to guess they have Arctic grade diesel. As cold as it gets there you still may experience some waxing, hopefully not. Eric, this something to be on the look out for with an outside fuel storage tank.
So frustrating for you that you couldn’t complete it but you are so clever and know what you need to do. Great work as always. Wonderful to see Bandit out with you x
There is a bung on the bottom of the tank for an outlet. If you run your supply from the bottom of the tank with a spin on filter at the tank and 1/4in line to the generator it should work fine. Return would also be 1/4 and to the top like you have it. Also, think about insulating the tank. I'd worry about the diesel geling up in the cold you guys have. Lastly I may have missed it but I didn't see anything about an air vent on the tank? Wife and I love watching you guys, figured I'd share some thoughts. Good luck.
Eric the great. We all sit here in amazement at the complex projects you take on. You work at it until it performs the way you want it to. May take a while, but your persistence always pays off. How you figure all of that out is amazing. Very interesting to watch, but you lost me after the first connection haha. Truth. You two work together like a surgeon and assistant in the O.R.
Love your videos. 1 suggestion you need to put 1/2” unions on the suction and return line. If you have problems you will not have to unscrew all your pipe to get it out of the tank.
The longer the suction/vacuum run of pipe between the pump and source the harder the pump has to work. Already lots of solutions cannot wait to see results!
Without reading through the comments what I see as a decent solution is to draw the fuel from the lower outlet on the tank. Just make sure there is a filter after the tank and add a T for tank draining or maintenance. This way you avoid the suction issue completely.
I ran a lot of diesel engines off diesel tanks just like your setup. 1/4 inch rubber hose and no check valve. The ones I was running may have had stronger fuel pumps but I bet if you snake 1/4 rubber through that black iron you’ll be all set.
I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and there is just nothing you two cannot do once you put your heads together. Best channel I have ever watched. God bless you guys. Always much Aloha from Hawai’i🌺
If you’re bonded at the main panel, you need to un-bond the generator. Also, the 6 AWG wire you’re using from the gen to inverter is only rated for 55amps (assuming THHN or THWN insulation with 75 degreeC lugs). You also should be using a 60A breaker. At minute 26:43 you said you’re allowing a draw over 60A. You should only allow what your cables are rated for. Also, since this is considered a “continuous load” (>3 hrs), you should de-rate your cables at 80%.
this is a good move...here in Gig Harbor we have a 100KW diesel that supplements our solar system and we are practically energy independent...(we still have the PSE hook up) dont mount anything on the generator...it will shake it apart
My company builds UL listed generator sub base fuel tanks for mainly govt projects. Those typically mount underneath the generator so as to minimize the length of fuel pipe. Your fuel pump will run 1/2" line without a problem. Its definitely the length of run that is your issue. You can try to run a smaller line, but If that doesn't work you will need to shorten the piping as short as you can. Possibly putting the tank closer to ground would help along with penetrating the side wall of your building to get closer to the tank. Good luck. Also your check valve is another issue. What you need is called a "foot valve" Look it up Morrison makes it and is meant for the bottom of the fuel line.
You need some unions on your black pipe, then you dont have to break it all apart. let your suction come off the bottom of the tank and get you a filter after the tank and before the gen set. The tank is higher than your gen set and you will always have a flooded suction, should work fine. Dont forget your unions a must for this type work. Good luck and thanks for sharing your life with us. I dont understand the return line from the generator, most i have ever messed with only fuel in, leave it like it is and try.
So great stuff, I did not see were anyone mentioned. The bonding; ground to neutral, should only be one place, genset or inverter or main breaker panel but not both at the same time. For safety, suggest you check your inverter manual…..good job, enjoy your adventures!
The frost is beautiful! You guys are so inventive. Always adjusting and adapting. So sorry that the generator isn’t able to work right at the moment. What a drag.
While it’s fresh in your head you might want to draw a map with measurements of all your underground wires and don’t forget your grounding rods before ground freezes solid . Just trying to help
If the diesel tank was inside the shop, it would have kept the fuel much warmer and less treatment needed. We heated our house with diesel for years and the tank was in our heated basement. We never had to worry about jelling. Just a thought. We do enjoy your channel!
You could also put a T in the line off the bottom and gravity feed the generator and put your return in the top. The next question I have is are you running on road diesel in the generator if so you should be using red off road diesel so you are not paying road tax which here in Ohio is approximately .75 cents per gallon and you could save a bunch of money! You can also put 2 Ts in the bottom and be able to get fuel for your tractor! I deliver fuel to farmers and for heating homes . Also with the tank setting outside you may have issues with the fuel getting to thick to even flow to the generator or the boiler. I don't know what the laws are there but if you start having trouble move the tank inside where it will be warmer! Any questions that I can help with i surr will ! My wife and I watch every episode! Keep up the good work!
Nice work, always install unions in your piping system so you can remove the sections without total disassembly. Also install a booster pump. Thanks for the video.
I would install a small tank in the room with the diesel generator that has an auto float type level control in it. Determine the fuel consumption to size the small tank. This tank's level would be maintained by a connection to the main tank. This would provide a positive suction head on the generator's fuel pump. This would require a connection lower in the main tank or a small pump in the main tank actuated by the auto level control float valve. Installing a small pump would require matching that pump's suction head specifications (how far the pump can raise the liquid) in your application.
Don't forget to add Diesel Fuel additive for cold weather. The diesel will gel up pretty fast. Good Luck, Bill Smith
I'm sorry things aren't going easier for this job. But it's nice that you know what else to try. Maybe you can pick up a few other things that you might need for your soon coming Winter. I always have to keep a running list for my next trip to town. Thanks for including all of us in your exciting off grid life.
Connect the fuel supply to the drain on the tank and the return line to the top of the tank, fuel pumps are designed to push not suck. Built a small enclosure around the gen with 2x4 and fill the cavities with Rockwool, best soundproofing material to use, plus it is fireproof.
Great job Eric . Your knowledge of things is amazing. I would never figure things out like y'all do. Your baby was so sweet being right with y'all. He is so beautiful. Always saying prayers for Bandit.
Couldn't figure out how I missed this video, then I realized it was hurricane Milton. We were very busy here in Southeast Florida. Remains perfect timing though cuz we are getting the soft start installed on our central A/C unit tomorrow ( so we can run a generator) then next week the Electrician will install the transfer switch. 2 family members have life sustaining medical equipment here, gotta be prepared. Never thought that having a grocery store and a gas station at the end of my block would mean that I have to be a prepper. It's a day and age of strange things. Thank you for how you put everything together and share with us! It's beautiful!!! ❣️
Remember to place your battery on a block of wood, Lead Acid batteries do not like Concrete as it bends the plates in the battery, Solution with fuel delivery is to use a 12 volt pump to assist drawing the fuel out the tank , love your channel. from Oz
You can sit 12 volts and 6 volts and lithium batteries on concrete. These batteries aren't made out of wood like the first batteries were long time ago. And it's doesn't " Bend " the plates inside unless drop them 5 feet.
I buiild off-grid/ESS systems. I think you are correct, your genny does not have capability to suck fuel, it is quite common issue. There are several solutions to this. First of all you do need a prefilter with water separation. Your tank will likely allow water vapor condense inside the tank. Go for a Racor 500 which will allow you to see and drain water. It will also let you see any diesel bug growth. In many installations like this you also have a "day" tank, i.e a smaller tank inside the generetor room. It is large enough for a few days of fuel. This is often fed by a manual pump. The day-tank sits high up to offer gravity feed. Another benefit is that your fuel will not be as cold as it may be coming form arctic winter outside. Dont know about your fuel not gelling but here in Sweden this is an issue when it really drops low.
I am so grateful you bought new home site. At last you have enough acreage to make your dreams come true. What you two have accomplished in such a short time amazes me! Bless you both.
I love how you guys can just pivot from one skill set to another. Farming, hunting, cooking, plumbing, electric, construction, mechanic and more. Whew. You two are everything. :D
From my research, you do not want a bonded neutral in the generator AND the panel because that can create a ground loop which is apparently very dangerous. As I understand, you need to have the generator NOT bonded. I am NOT a professional, so please look into this yourselves to be sure. Love your setup, I'm just in the process of building my system now as well. Thanks for another great video guys.
Good job getting your Generator installed. We have an Onan 10kw for our house and I would suggest installing a Racor water separator/filter to pick up water/trash, between tank & Kabota. I’m sure your Kabota has a diesel filter, but I have found the water separator is a great first line of defense. Love your work ethic
You've got a heck of a set up there, and after watching you guys for several years I have every faith in you that you'll do your research and gain all the know-how you need to finish the job as is best for you!! Step back, take a break and then go for it!! You've got what it takes!! Stay safe and above all be happy!! 😉👍💖💖
Eric, you need a header tank, not smaller lines. A 25 gallon header tank( supplied by your main tank) will keep the engine running while not overtaxing the fuel pump on the generator. BTW…be sure to install a battery mat to insulate your battery; do you have a fuel heater on the tank? #2 diesel gels at extremely cold temps even with anti-gelling additives.
Watching your channel is like going on a fascinating, educational adventure every time! You have this incredible way of pulling us into your world of creativity, and it’s truly inspiring. Keep leading the way and sparking that sense of wonder in all of us! 🚜📷🔥
Whilst i have zero knowledge of how to solve your generator situation, I thoroughly enjoyed yet another incredibly informative and beautifully executed video of your life and challenges in beautiful Alaska. THANKYOU for sharing Eric & Arielle and with the wealth of suggestions in the comments I have no doubt your next video will be on "how you solved your diesel generators hiccups". Love and blessings from IPSWICH QLD AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺🤗🙏💞👍👌✌️👏😍✝️🇺🇸
I think Eric and Ariel met their match. You guys are incredible. And i heard Ariel say Ryan... that must be Ryan from Wildwood Off Grid Alaska. Ryan is such a smart man.
It's good to see Bandit up and around.
A bit of worry there
Eric's perseverance and ability to figure shit out is legendary!
Definitely have a lot of knowledge on a lot of different things!
@@1307scooter he's a bulldog.
He knows the mother of invention is necessity.
Hi There, we have the same KUBOTA diesel and had the same issue; pump not strong enough to pull enough fuel.. We now run 1/4” copper line, no check valve and installed a 12 VDC inline fuel pump. We next installed a normally open pressure switch in an oil port. When the engine cranks, oil pressure builds, switch closes, fuel pump comes on, diesel line is pressurized and engine runs like a charm. When engine stops, fuel pump stops. Hope this helps.
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With 1/4 inch pipe. Worry about freezing.
You beat me to it. Pumps are far more efficient pushing than they are pulling.
I would add... add a fuel filter downstream of the pump.
supplementary pump fa sure
I very much appreciate the fact that you don't gloss over problems. You persevere until you find the solutions.
I’m binge watching the three episodes I missed. I live in Spruce Pine, North Carolina and our area was devastated by hurricane Helene. We finally got power back yesterday after 17 days. Still very spotty internet. We have many folks who live in areas that can’t be reached because bridges are out and roads were completely destroyed. Mudslides have destroyed roads that are our only way out of the mountains. Today it took us most of the day to make a trip for groceries that normally would take 2 hours. People still missing with no idea where to look. The sky has been filled with Chinook helicopters and Blackhawks, roads lined with power trucks, people coming in from all over the country bringing supplies. It’s absolutely surreal here, we thought we might be safe in these western mountains but we weren’t. Some areas got 36” of rain. But back to you guys-fantastic show-you never disappoint and this brought some sense of normalcy to a very disturbing 2 and one half weeks. Thanks so much, you guys are the best I just saw your Facebook post that Bandit passed. I’m so sorry , but you warned us he wasn’t doing well. I pray you will be comforted knowing he is not suffering. I do hope you got the generator working. Sorry I wrote so much.
I’m so sorry about Hurricane Helene. I pray that the people there will get all the help they need to rebuild their homes, bridges, and lives.
I have the very same basic tank (Greer, 500 gallon) and (35kw) diesel engine setup as you similarly have, and it has run automatically without fuel delivery issues whatsoever now for 22 straight years here in south-central Alaska. Forget your entire top tank offtake connection that you have already made, get rid of that, and install in the same hole at the top a Krueger Sentry Gauge so you visually know what your tank has left in it, so you can reorder fuel as needed. I then installed a Golden Rod fuel filter off of the tank valve that you have already installed at the bottom (so you will be doing gravity fuel feed for both lines), that way you can change the fuel filter element (rare). On the outlet side of the Golden Rod filter, I installed a 3/8" copper tee, and installed a similar globe shutoff valve for each tee so that I can shut-in any of the two copper feed lines while leaving the other one live, whenever needed. I then ran 3/8" copper line (refrigerant line) off of both shut-off outlets, but I used a 3/8" flare fitting connection for each copper line (don't use compression fittings to connect to the outlet of these shutoff valve) as you don't want these to ever come loose and leak, which can happen if a strong earthquake or Moose, as some Moose in my area seem to like the taste of diesel at these fittings. Spiral the copper lines at least two turns so that your outside flare connections don't get undue stress from the usual winter frost heaves beneath your concrete pad. Then run the lines into your building at same two wall penetration holes, connect one line to the rubber generator feed line as you illustrated, and run the other line to your boiler connection.
This is the idea I had as well. Use gravity to your advantage. The only concern I would have would be a way to rid the water that eventually will settle at the bottom of the tank from condensation which would freeze in the lines or find it's way to the generator. Does the Golden rod filter compensate for water?
@@bain5872 Yes, the golden rod housing is fully transparent around its entire filter (if water ever reaches the filter, it automatically shuts in fuel flow, and it has never happened with my setup). You can also visually see water appear at the base of the transparent housing as well (not happened yet with my setup), and below that base housing is a manual hand twist drain valve to drain off any water. The first filter has already processed 8000 gallons of diesel over the past 22 years, and still no water present from condensation and/or contaminated diesel fuel.
Hey Eric and Ariell,
We have been fans of your channel since your Oregon days, and we love your informative and beautifully presented videos. While we must deal with diesel turning to gel here in Australia, we are fortunate not to face the extreme challenges you meet in Alaska with the super-low temperatures. On our farm in the Snowy Mountains, we built a super-insulated shed over the tank and the generator to prevent animal damage and the diesel from turning into gel in the fuel lines during freezing overnight temperatures. It worked like a charm! We set up a gravity fed fuel line with a water filter and on/off tap in copper pipe. Hope this helps.
Seems like others have “been there, done that” already. Sounds like some great advice to me. Makes me want to get a 500 gallon diesel tank and generator! 🙂
@@bain5872 just plumb an elbow facing up a couple of inches on the supply line so you are not pulling directly off the bottom
Honestly im just wondering if theres anything y'all CAN'T do! I love this channel so much. All the harvesting and work on everything. Its so wholesome and fun to watch
I'm 78 yo granny that knows nothing about electricity BUT I watched to the end and understood most of what you were saying! As Gomer Pile would say, "Surprise, surprise". I just love your channel. Did you ever think - when you were a 9 yo boy - that you would be doing this in Alaska and actually getting it done right? LOL You give us all hope in the younger generation. THANK YOU!
Amen to that granny! I'm 63 and I learn something new every time I watch this channel. Whether it be mechanics, gardening, cooking, hunting, fishing or team work, I always walk away happy!❤
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I’m a 67 year old granny and I love this! I also understood a lot of it too.. lol 🤗☮️
Amen 74. I understand more than my husband. LOL
How in the world is Eric so skilled in so many things. I am very impressed by his knowledge.
He is very skilled, but he’s not alone. Anyone who lives in the country or on a farm or ranch learns many such skills that may seem amazing to anyone who lives in a place where you can get someone else to do things.
@@janking2762 for real.
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Is there anything you can’t do? And you retain your sense of humor! Good to see Bandit hanging out with you.
Do not ever change. You two are just as you should be, not like most if not all other channels of this type.
One thing for certain!! I wouldn't last a a week in Alaska!! All this off grid survival stuff is so confusing but Eric and Ariel can do just about any task they try! They never do anything half way they're always all in!! 😮😮❤
Super great work, PLEASE mount the controller to the wall or anywhere but on the generator, the vibration will eventually loosen the screws on the terminals and you'll get all sorts of arcing and chatter. Love the videos you amazing people!
Guaranteed !
Great advice 👍
Yeah for sure
I would have my feed line to the generator be the bottom side line. Then you have the weight of the "water column" helping to push the fuel to the fuel pump. Then just have the fuel return go in the top. No need for a check valve.
Maybe someone else already suggested this.
I really enjoy your videos and how far your homesteads have come since your move from the lower 48.
Keep up the great work. 👍🏻
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I am so amazed at Eric's knowledge and skills.
We be Alaskans. We learn A LOT to be as self sufficient as possible. This IS the Last Frontier ya know! ; )
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@@magnusoptimus2052 i wanna come build a mountainside bunker
Obviously knows his (wolf) shit.
Yeah the whole time I was wondering what his GPA was in high school
It looks SOOOOO cold there . I don’t think I could live there when it’s bitter cold ,and I’d have to take a bath in bug repellant in the summer. My hats off to those of you who live there year around
Suggestions were already made, but i concur. Feed from bottom of tank to solve feed rate issue and use a filter/ separator. Good work
Agree, you can still have both feeds from the bottom. Fuel return and the pressure required I have no idea, but would expect that line to return into the top of the tank. The pump returns the fuel as well??
🤣🤣🤣 The end there was pretty funny!
The variety and breadth of knowledge and ingenuity you guys have is amazing. Once those parts come in and get installed, and the maintenance is done, you'll have a great automated generator back-up system for your batteries. Your woodshed is full, your pantry and freezer stocked, and it's looking like you're almost ready for winter. You had an incredibly productive summer getting the garden fenced and in, the quanset hut insulated, and the wood boiler stove hooked up, etc. Now this. Really impressive...way to go!
Notice in one of your recent videos you were dealing some with insects and pest and slugs. A couple that has a channel called North to Alaska they were sharing their garden experience. The planted a lot of marigolds in their vegetable garden and it controls the slugs and insects. I vaguely remember my parents doing that back in the '40s when I was a kid. May be something to it. My wife has tried it also and she says it works. LOVE YOUR SHOW.
I was in cringe mode when I saw how the fuel was being fed from the tank to the generator. Fortunately, someone has already posted the size solution that will work. Getting that generator going means crossing a lot of bridges. So glad you have troubleshooting skills that this experience helped you to build upon. Your willingness to do and learn anything that helps you live your life better, is inspirational.
Yes, Eric is "The Fixer!" He thinks like an engineer. Ariel is amazing at troubleshooting too. Between the two of them, there is no issue they can't solve. This is an essential skill when you live the way they do.
Another very interesting video Thank you
Connect the suction/supply line to the generator on the bottom of the tank connection. The return line can be left in the top connection of the tank. The suction/supply line will then have positive suction head. The current setup causes a negative pump suction head and somewhat defeats the purpose of having the tank elevated. Smaller piping sizing is a good idea. Also no need for a check valve with positive suction head. 👍🏻
I've been watching since you packed up and moved to Alaska. You two are so funny sometimes but mostly you guys are inspiring ❤❤. Love your channel
So glad you had Bandit to help. Once again you guys are awesome
You two have an amazing level of fortitude.
Watching your channel is always an interesting and educational journey. Continue to lead us into the world of your creativity and inspire us!🚜📷◼️
Simko ?? My last name is simko very interesting.....
Diesel tech here, as a few others mentioned an electric fuel lift pump would help, smaller lines too. Also we use just flapper style check valves in our fuel systems on 60 liter diesel engines, when empty gravity can make them open so they are light and allow flow, but the fuel can't flow back because that flapper opens only one way ya know.
Your videos with using equipment, installing it, and maintaining it are always some of my favorite. I like how you guys always try to make things right and proper in every project you take on and keep yourselves and your work so civilized in every video.
Waaaay back in the past I was a marine engineer and for a setup like yours I'd put a daily use tank in the room with the generator with a separate pump or gravity feed to keep that topped up and then gravity feed the generators fuel pump. Added benefit of keeping the diesel that you want to start the generator with a bit warmer. You could easily automate topping off the daily use tank or just make it part of your daily routine. You would not need to run your return line outside the building either.
That sounds like a good solution 👍
Only Channel that I have that makes me drop everything
Same!😂 I am here asking my hvac mechanic husband and he is giving me the answers lol
Me too.
Then you havent checked out cutting edge engineering in Australia awesome videos and the outakes are a blast lol
@jackgreen1261 Same here! If there was RUclips awards ceremony Simply Living Alaska would win hands down.
IKR
Paused my running playlist to watch your video in a fresh tab.
We've had Generac stand-by whole house generator for our last 3 houses, and a portable one for our home before that. They literally saved our bacon when we had a tornado pass near us that took out the power lines, and also after a tremendous ice storm that also took out the lines. When you incorporate the cost into the cost of the whole house when being built, it isn't that expensive to install and the peace of mind is priceless. Glad you guys have one now. With the generator, the solar system and the wood stove, you are sitting pretty good. Enjoy!
In my experience any plumbing project is at least 3 trips to the hardware store, brave and skilled (and lucky) people get it done in one. NOTE I'm not an expert but I would get your generator's battery up off the floor as the concrete will drain the battery over time, IJS. Thanks for sharing
Only 3 trips? Usually takes me 6 😖
@@johncollins719 Well I did say "At Least" but 6 seems doable😆
That old myth of batteries on concrete has been debunked.for many, many years. We were taught that as kids even though my dad should have known better.
Do even the most minimal online search and you will see.
There is NOTHING special about concrete floors that discharge batteries!
PLEASE, STOP SPREADING THAT OLD WIVES TALE.
You could add a switch from your auto start wires in your jb to start it when you want too.
Make sure your fill and vent pipes going into the tank have thread sealant on them as well. If not you’ll get rain and snow melt water in the tank. I highly recommend a roof over it!
-Your friendly oil burner technician from Maine who works with outside tanks. Looks great !
Been to a few northern locations where they put the diesel fuel tank in a heated shelter to avoid gelling. If I recall they would get -58C temperatures. Our coaxial connectors were popping of the cables so we had to wrap them with eaves heating cable, good times!!!
Internet says: Diesel begins to freeze at a higher temperature than gasoline. As it freezes, it begins to gel. Typically, this can happen anytime the temperature drops below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, but most often when the temperature hits 15 degrees. Gelling occurs when paraffin wax within diesel fuel solidifies and bonds together at extremely low temperatures. This is known as the fuel's cloud point, which for No. 2 diesel is typically around 14°F. Using high-quality cold-weather diesel additives, you can prevent the diesel fuel from thickening in the first place. Besides the anti-gelling qualities, a few other advantages of using anti-gelling additives are: Improvement in cold flow. Reduction in cold filter plugging point.
So what steps will you be taking to avoid these problems?
A day tank inside helps with most of these problems, and Alaska gets Arctic grade diesel with additives to help with gelling.
Petroleum guy here. As far north as they are, I would venture to guess they have Arctic grade diesel. As cold as it gets there you still may experience some waxing, hopefully not. Eric, this something to be on the look out for with an outside fuel storage tank.
You guys are the ultimate team. Love all your videos.
So frustrating for you that you couldn’t complete it but you are so clever and know what you need to do. Great work as always. Wonderful to see Bandit out with you x
There is a bung on the bottom of the tank for an outlet. If you run your supply from the bottom of the tank with a spin on filter at the tank and 1/4in line to the generator it should work fine. Return would also be 1/4 and to the top like you have it. Also, think about insulating the tank. I'd worry about the diesel geling up in the cold you guys have. Lastly I may have missed it but I didn't see anything about an air vent on the tank? Wife and I love watching you guys, figured I'd share some thoughts. Good luck.
I needed a video from you two! 😊
Crying in North Carolina!😢
@peppeenc429 how are you doing? I am in NE GA.
Prayers for you and hugs from Canada
Eric the great. We all sit here in amazement at the complex projects you take on. You work at it until it performs the way you want it to. May take a while, but your persistence always pays off. How you figure all of that out is amazing. Very interesting to watch, but you lost me after the first connection haha. Truth. You two work together like a surgeon and assistant in the O.R.
Love your videos.
1 suggestion you need to put 1/2” unions on the suction and return line. If you have problems you will not have to unscrew all your pipe to get it out of the tank.
Great idea
The longer the suction/vacuum run of pipe between the pump and source the harder the pump has to work. Already lots of solutions cannot wait to see results!
Without reading through the comments what I see as a decent solution is to draw the fuel from the lower outlet on the tank. Just make sure there is a filter after the tank and add a T for tank draining or maintenance. This way you avoid the suction issue completely.
The only channel that makes me drop my cross stitch . Love to you both ❤️🇬🇧
HAHA I always say that I'll watch and listen while I knit. Nope, I put down my knitting. :D
Eric, you are amazing! Both of you are the most talented and interesting RUclipsrs in Alaska!
In amongst all the technical stuff (fascinating as it was) I loved the beard!
It still shocks me how quick the seasons change!!!!!
You two are incredible, our favorite RUclips channel by far! Thank you for sharing.
Eric, sir never ceases to amaze me with the skill set you have. Love your channel
I ran a lot of diesel engines off diesel tanks just like your setup. 1/4 inch rubber hose and no check valve. The ones I was running may have had stronger fuel pumps but I bet if you snake 1/4 rubber through that black iron you’ll be all set.
Start of a wonderful weekend and a video from my favorite alaskans!!! Who could ask for more??!!
Every Saturday i make time to watch your channel. It doesnt matter what you two are doing its always beautiful and interesting. Thank you!
I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and there is just nothing you two cannot do once you put your heads together. Best channel I have ever watched. God bless you guys. Always much Aloha from Hawai’i🌺
Is there anything Eric can’t do? I’m amazed at how he can work stuff out! Very inspiring ❤
I think you two are amazing figuring out all this stuff and making it work.
If you’re bonded at the main panel, you need to un-bond the generator.
Also, the 6 AWG wire you’re using from the gen to inverter is only rated for 55amps (assuming THHN or THWN insulation with 75 degreeC lugs). You also should be using a 60A breaker. At minute 26:43 you said you’re allowing a draw over 60A. You should only allow what your cables are rated for. Also, since this is considered a “continuous load” (>3 hrs), you should de-rate your cables at 80%.
this is a good move...here in Gig Harbor we have a 100KW diesel that supplements our solar system and we are practically energy independent...(we still have the PSE hook up)
dont mount anything on the generator...it will shake it apart
Been watching you for years never any drama just hard work and fun!😊and you deserve all those views.
My company builds UL listed generator sub base fuel tanks for mainly govt projects. Those typically mount underneath the generator so as to minimize the length of fuel pipe. Your fuel pump will run 1/2" line without a problem. Its definitely the length of run that is your issue. You can try to run a smaller line, but If that doesn't work you will need to shorten the piping as short as you can. Possibly putting the tank closer to ground would help along with penetrating the side wall of your building to get closer to the tank. Good luck. Also your check valve is another issue. What you need is called a "foot valve" Look it up Morrison makes it and is meant for the bottom of the fuel line.
My favorite family's in Alaska ❤❤❤❤
You need some unions on your black pipe, then you dont have to break it all apart. let your suction come off the bottom of the tank and get you a filter after the tank and before the gen set. The tank is higher than your gen set and you will always have a flooded suction, should work fine. Dont forget your unions a must for this type work. Good luck and thanks for sharing your life with us. I dont understand the return line from the generator, most i have ever messed with only fuel in, leave it like it is and try.
I stopped three other videos when I saw diesel generator at SLA. Cool guys. With Aloha of course...
So great stuff, I did not see were anyone mentioned. The bonding; ground to neutral, should only be one place, genset or inverter or main breaker panel but not both at the same time. For safety, suggest you check your inverter manual…..good job, enjoy your adventures!
Thank you guys you're such a refreshment from all of the other stuff going on in the world
And now Im interested in Generators and reading the solutions in comments..... What you've have done with your vids is amazing!!! 🤣
Thank you for sharing your Alaska life. You allow me to dream of a life I could have had if I was young again. Thank you.
The frost is beautiful!
You guys are so inventive. Always adjusting and adapting. So sorry that the generator isn’t able to work right at the moment. What a drag.
🧔♀️Ariel, I love crazy goofballs! Especially when the hubby is being so serious 😂You made me laugh out loud!
While it’s fresh in your head you might want to draw a map with measurements of all your underground wires and don’t forget your grounding rods before ground freezes solid . Just trying to help
Eric got to play with lots of his stuff. Love the nerd workout.
If the diesel tank was inside the shop, it would have kept the fuel much warmer and less treatment needed. We heated our house with diesel for years and the tank was in our heated basement. We never had to worry about jelling. Just a thought. We do enjoy your channel!
Always love watching Eric figure it all out. Amazing skills! Thanks again guys for another informative and awesome video. ❤❤❤
You could also put a T in the line off the bottom and gravity feed the generator and put your return in the top. The next question I have is are you running on road diesel in the generator if so you should be using red off road diesel so you are not paying road tax which here in Ohio is approximately .75 cents per gallon and you could save a bunch of money! You can also put 2 Ts in the bottom and be able to get fuel for your tractor! I deliver fuel to farmers and for heating homes . Also with the tank setting outside you may have issues with the fuel getting to thick to even flow to the generator or the boiler. I don't know what the laws are there but if you start having trouble move the tank inside where it will be warmer! Any questions that I can help with i surr will ! My wife and I watch every episode! Keep up the good work!
Nice work, always install unions in your piping system so you can remove the sections without total disassembly. Also install a booster pump. Thanks for the video.
I would install a small tank in the room with the diesel generator that has an auto float type level control in it. Determine the fuel consumption to size the small tank. This tank's level would be maintained by a connection to the main tank. This would provide a positive suction head on the generator's fuel pump. This would require a connection lower in the main tank or a small pump in the main tank actuated by the auto level control float valve. Installing a small pump would require matching that pump's suction head specifications (how far the pump can raise the liquid) in your application.
Don't forget to add Diesel Fuel additive for cold weather. The diesel will gel up pretty fast.
Good Luck,
Bill Smith
What a beautiful, frosty morning!❤
ikr, where I'm watching from in CA, it's now 100. Bring on fall and some frost!!
It's so inspiring, how little effort you need to put into understanding how things work, having knowledgeable friends really makes the difference!
❤ you guys! Looks like a good setup for a warmer winter!
Eric is a brilliant guy at all tasks some man 🏴🏴
I'm sorry things aren't going easier for this job. But it's nice that you know what else to try. Maybe you can pick up a few other things that you might need for your soon coming Winter. I always have to keep a running list for my next trip to town. Thanks for including all of us in your exciting off grid life.
Connect the fuel supply to the drain on the tank and the return line to the top of the tank, fuel pumps are designed to push not suck.
Built a small enclosure around the gen with 2x4 and fill the cavities with Rockwool, best soundproofing material to use, plus it is fireproof.
Hello Guys! Love your hard working Vids.
Great job Eric . Your knowledge of things is amazing. I would never figure things out like y'all do. Your baby was so sweet being right with y'all. He is so beautiful. Always saying prayers for Bandit.
My favorite family. Blessings you two
Couldn't figure out how I missed this video, then I realized it was hurricane Milton. We were very busy here in Southeast Florida. Remains perfect timing though cuz we are getting the soft start installed on our central A/C unit tomorrow ( so we can run a generator) then next week the Electrician will install the transfer switch. 2 family members have life sustaining medical equipment here, gotta be prepared. Never thought that having a grocery store and a gas station at the end of my block would mean that I have to be a prepper. It's a day and age of strange things. Thank you for how you put everything together and share with us! It's beautiful!!! ❣️
Remember to place your battery on a block of wood, Lead Acid batteries do not like Concrete as it bends the plates in the battery, Solution with fuel delivery is to use a 12 volt pump to assist drawing the fuel out the tank , love your channel. from Oz
You can sit 12 volts and 6 volts and lithium batteries on concrete. These batteries aren't made out of wood like the first batteries were long time ago. And it's doesn't " Bend " the plates inside unless drop them 5 feet.
I buiild off-grid/ESS systems. I think you are correct, your genny does not have capability to suck fuel, it is quite common issue. There are several solutions to this. First of all you do need a prefilter with water separation. Your tank will likely allow water vapor condense inside the tank. Go for a Racor 500 which will allow you to see and drain water. It will also let you see any diesel bug growth. In many installations like this you also have a "day" tank, i.e a smaller tank inside the generetor room. It is large enough for a few days of fuel. This is often fed by a manual pump. The day-tank sits high up to offer gravity feed. Another benefit is that your fuel will not be as cold as it may be coming form arctic winter outside. Dont know about your fuel not gelling but here in Sweden this is an issue when it really drops low.
You guys continually amaze me.
I am so grateful you bought new home site. At last you have enough acreage to make your dreams come true.
What you two have accomplished in such a short time amazes me!
Bless you both.
Awesome video. Eric, your skills - at everything - are amazing. Looking forward to your next video when you have everything figured out!!
I love how you guys can just pivot from one skill set to another. Farming, hunting, cooking, plumbing, electric, construction, mechanic and more. Whew. You two are everything. :D
From my research, you do not want a bonded neutral in the generator AND the panel because that can create a ground loop which is apparently very dangerous. As I understand, you need to have the generator NOT bonded. I am NOT a professional, so please look into this yourselves to be sure. Love your setup, I'm just in the process of building my system now as well. Thanks for another great video guys.
Good job getting your Generator installed. We have an Onan 10kw for our house and I would suggest installing a Racor water separator/filter to pick up water/trash, between tank & Kabota. I’m sure your Kabota has a diesel filter, but I have found the water separator is a great first line of defense.
Love your work ethic
Thank you for your very enjoyable and educational videos. You both are amazing! God bless!
You've got a heck of a set up there, and after watching you guys for several years I have every faith in you that you'll do your research and gain all the know-how you need to finish the job as is best for you!! Step back, take a break and then go for it!! You've got what it takes!! Stay safe and above all be happy!! 😉👍💖💖
I got the feeling that you are going to stay for a while.
What a professional installation.
Hy guys, lots of good advice in the comments for you Eric. I’m sure you will get it up and running soon. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️
Eric, you need a header tank, not smaller lines. A 25 gallon header tank( supplied by your main tank) will keep the engine running while not overtaxing the fuel pump on the generator. BTW…be sure to install a battery mat to insulate your battery; do you have a fuel heater on the tank? #2 diesel gels at extremely cold temps even with anti-gelling additives.
For this purpose, the radiator installed in the generator itself would work best - it can simply be used to heat the fuel ;)
You guys have a fantastic life, never ever change that for anything. Much love from Africa 🥰
Watching your channel is like going on a fascinating, educational adventure every time! You have this incredible way of pulling us into your world of creativity, and it’s truly inspiring. Keep leading the way and sparking that sense of wonder in all of us! 🚜📷🔥
Whilst i have zero knowledge of how to solve your generator situation, I thoroughly enjoyed yet another incredibly informative and beautifully executed video of your life and challenges in beautiful Alaska. THANKYOU for sharing Eric & Arielle and with the wealth of suggestions in the comments I have no doubt your next video will be on "how you solved your diesel generators hiccups". Love and blessings from IPSWICH QLD AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺🤗🙏💞👍👌✌️👏😍✝️🇺🇸
Wow, meat all winter now.Alaska looks beautiful.Dont poke the wolf poo guys.
😂my first thought too as I see Eric just couldn’t help himself.
@bertibear1..
it's OK...it doesn't bite 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Eric and Ariel met their match. You guys are incredible. And i heard Ariel say Ryan... that must be Ryan from Wildwood Off Grid Alaska. Ryan is such a smart man.