I just started seroquel and I felt weird in my face and mouth and tightness. I just realized it's not in my head and I am actually experiencing tardive dyskinesia and I am doing some of these facial expression. I thought it's from intense anxiety from starting a new medication. Shame it's been helping me sleep. Now I have to stop. Maybe just used it occasionally.
Very helpful, thank you. I just started 300mg of Venlafaxine 2 weeks ago. I'm experiencing this in my face, and hands especially. Except, mine are faster, as though I need to feel the muscles or movements intensely. It has become rather annoying.
I have to say this being an Indian there may be some bias in my opinion but I think Indian medical teachers are probably the best medical teachers on average for 2 reasosn- 1. They do not rely excessively on reports for everything this makes this inspection and examination driven provision diagnosis game strong. 2. They have an abundance of cases being in a highly populated country with extensive culture of private practice. 3. They remain up to date with advancing technology. edit: forgot to mention A MAJOR reason, they use proper medical terminology and would tell you about other existing terms in the field, I have observed in western doctors the tendency to opt for abbreviations sometimes to a point they only the abbreviations of those certain terms and other times they may describe a symptom but may not mention the terminology for it or describe how the similar symptom is called something else if it is observed secondary to some other disease. I didn't realise that until I went into the second and third year of Physiotherapy (we study that in medical college by same staff that teaches MBBS/MDs).
This was very helpful. I did all of the movements along with you. I'm so very scared my son is in the early stages after 2 years of antipsychotic use. Thank you! 🤍
It's really sad that in order to control a patient's moods/behaviors/thoughts/actions perceived as "abnormal" medical doctors will prescribe toxic drugs that cause damage to their patient's physical body without first considering underlying medical conditions that can be easily misdiagnosed as a mental disorder. As an individual who experienced tardive dyskinesia from neuroleptic drugs, I can easily recognize it in others. It was a terrible condition, and it would occur less often if psychiatrists would stop using the DSM with a Chinese menu approach, rubberstamping psychiatric labels on their patients, using one-size-fits-all magic bullet drug treatment approaches and instead test for and treat underlying medical conditions. In my situation, my psychiatric disorder was caused by long-term chemical exposure in the work environment. I was fortunate to find a Functional Medicine doctor who ran tests and found abnormalities such as lead poisoning, which eventually led to a workers' compensation claim.
As you say, 'in your situation'. Unfortunately not everyone has the same condition as you. Mental health conditions can be extremely debilitating and life limiting to patients. Medication is needed to manage these symptoms. Hopefully with time and research we will develop better medications that have more acceptible side effect profiles
The vast majority of patients on anti-psychotics need them to live a full life. All medication comes with side effects what works for one person might not work for others but we don't fully understand a lot of mental health conditions so its harder to tailor treatments
TD isn't evidence of brain damage. It is linked to use of dopamergenic drugs, a loss of function wouldnt allow any movement, rather dopamine is involved with movement signaling. The signals are working quite well, the problem is that you didn't intend for that movement. I find it is quite different from neuropathic signaling as with diabetes, but that may just be my sense. Kind of like lightning occurring randomly, but only when atmospheric conditions are aligned, rather than in intentional patterns. I won't ever understand why people would work with chemicals without an understanding of what harm those chemicals can cause. I use *Material Safety Data Sheets* all the time. I just checked one the other day to know this denatured alcohol didn't contain additives. I'm curious where personal responsibility comes into the picture with workplace injuries like that.
fantastic video on this. I just learned i do NOT have TD. thank you! Can you do one on : oralfacial dyskinesias? would be so grateful , thank you (have irregular jaw mislignment in masseters, ptergoids for 9 months after wearing nightguard that didnt fit right for TMD, and when i stopped the 'guard' issue went away-but now-have to wear it as i broke tooth due to bruxism, so they said go back and wear the nightguard) but now: i can not c'hew food and muscles in masseter have 'irregular movements' when stressed or drinking caffeine, even cup of tea (stopped the coffee), but: how can i tell its OD vs not OD? thanks in advance (have been to top TMD dentists, PCP, MD, myofasical release experts and PT for TMD) nothing helping. main complaint: can no longer chew food and my tongue is lost, doesnt know where to go (doesnt sit on roof of mouth nor bottom, just hangs out in middle of teeth).
I know this suppose to be serious but it was a little bit entertaining at the same time🙂. Btw., I know many people both in Europe or in Japan having the same regular face movement. Not sure if it's just accidental.
When I see people doing this I’ve always known they are on some medications or on street drugs. I seen Alex Murdaugh son doing the tongue thrusting on the stand. It’s sad. That’s why I looked up this video. Very sad what happens to people because of man made drugs or drugs!
I started geodon two months ago. Typical paranoid me(hence the geodon) I felt my tongue pushing up against my teeth however its rhythmic. I worried until I realized I no longer suck my thumb. I was a chronic thumbsucker up through adulthood. Until starting Geodon. The doctor showing one of the tests for td is not being able to hold the tongue in. I tried it in front of a mirror. I can do so easily. That relieved my anxiety and my hyperawareness of it greatly lessened. Now I hardly notice it at all. I do none of the movements displayed by the doctor.
Managing to make this video engaging is really impressive. Sign of a good teacher
The demonstrations were most helpful
Its so clear with demonstration
I just started seroquel and I felt weird in my face and mouth and tightness. I just realized it's not in my head and I am actually experiencing tardive dyskinesia and I am doing some of these facial expression. I thought it's from intense anxiety from starting a new medication. Shame it's been helping me sleep. Now I have to stop. Maybe just used it occasionally.
Very helpful, thank you. I just started 300mg of Venlafaxine 2 weeks ago. I'm experiencing this in my face, and hands especially. Except, mine are faster, as though I need to feel the muscles or movements intensely. It has become rather annoying.
I've been on Olanzapine for 3 years. I do the pouting of my lips when I concentrate. I don't remember me doing that before I started this medication.
Thank you doc, your way of teaching is effective.
I have to say this being an Indian there may be some bias in my opinion but I think Indian medical teachers are probably the best medical teachers on average for 2 reasosn-
1. They do not rely excessively on reports for everything this makes this inspection and examination driven provision diagnosis game strong.
2. They have an abundance of cases being in a highly populated country with extensive culture of private practice.
3. They remain up to date with advancing technology.
edit: forgot to mention A MAJOR reason, they use proper medical terminology and would tell you about other existing terms in the field, I have observed in western doctors the tendency to opt for abbreviations sometimes to a point they only the abbreviations of those certain terms and other times they may describe a symptom but may not mention the terminology for it or describe how the similar symptom is called something else if it is observed secondary to some other disease. I didn't realise that until I went into the second and third year of Physiotherapy (we study that in medical college by same staff that teaches MBBS/MDs).
if you ever need to study surgery try lectures or case presentations by Dr. Saurabh dixit.
Very helpful video. This way of teaching works for me as a learner.
can you do a video on "orofacial dyskinesia'? please ? signs? symptoms? thank you (great video here)
This is helpful. Just need to keep in mind that many people have facial tics without having TD.
This is obviously a video for health workers specially physicians, Not relevant to us, since we know.
Where can I see a demonstration of oro buccal dyskinesia.
This was very helpful. I did all of the movements along with you. I'm so very scared my son is in the early stages after 2 years of antipsychotic use.
Thank you! 🤍
Very informative
Cute tie and love the dad joke!
It's really sad that in order to control a patient's moods/behaviors/thoughts/actions perceived as "abnormal" medical doctors will prescribe toxic drugs that cause damage to their patient's physical body without first considering underlying medical conditions that can be easily misdiagnosed as a mental disorder.
As an individual who experienced tardive dyskinesia from neuroleptic drugs, I can easily recognize it in others. It was a terrible condition, and it would occur less often if psychiatrists would stop using the DSM with a Chinese menu approach, rubberstamping psychiatric labels on their patients, using one-size-fits-all magic bullet drug treatment approaches and instead test for and treat underlying medical conditions.
In my situation, my psychiatric disorder was caused by long-term chemical exposure in the work environment. I was fortunate to find a Functional Medicine doctor who ran tests and found abnormalities such as lead poisoning, which eventually led to a workers' compensation claim.
As you say, 'in your situation'. Unfortunately not everyone has the same condition as you. Mental health conditions can be extremely debilitating and life limiting to patients. Medication is needed to manage these symptoms. Hopefully with time and research we will develop better medications that have more acceptible side effect profiles
The vast majority of patients on anti-psychotics need them to live a full life. All medication comes with side effects what works for one person might not work for others but we don't fully understand a lot of mental health conditions so its harder to tailor treatments
Maria, You experienced tardive dyskinesia. Did it resolve?
TD isn't evidence of brain damage. It is linked to use of dopamergenic drugs, a loss of function wouldnt allow any movement, rather dopamine is involved with movement signaling. The signals are working quite well, the problem is that you didn't intend for that movement.
I find it is quite different from neuropathic signaling as with diabetes, but that may just be my sense.
Kind of like lightning occurring randomly, but only when atmospheric conditions are aligned, rather than in intentional patterns.
I won't ever understand why people would work with chemicals without an understanding of what harm those chemicals can cause.
I use *Material Safety Data Sheets* all the time. I just checked one the other day to know this denatured alcohol didn't contain additives.
I'm curious where personal responsibility comes into the picture with workplace injuries like that.
Very informative thank u
fantastic video on this. I just learned i do NOT have TD. thank you! Can you do one on : oralfacial dyskinesias? would be so grateful , thank you (have irregular jaw mislignment in masseters, ptergoids for 9 months after wearing nightguard that didnt fit right for TMD, and when i stopped the 'guard' issue went away-but now-have to wear it as i broke tooth due to bruxism, so they said go back and wear the nightguard) but now: i can not c'hew food and muscles in masseter have 'irregular movements' when stressed or drinking caffeine, even cup of tea (stopped the coffee), but: how can i tell its OD vs not OD? thanks in advance (have been to top TMD dentists, PCP, MD, myofasical release experts and PT for TMD) nothing helping. main complaint: can no longer chew food and my tongue is lost, doesnt know where to go (doesnt sit on roof of mouth nor bottom, just hangs out in middle of teeth).
How to prevent or cure from this problem?
Thank you.
I know this suppose to be serious but it was a little bit entertaining at the same time🙂. Btw., I know many people both in Europe or in Japan having the same regular face movement. Not sure if it's just accidental.
thank you
When I see people doing this I’ve always known they are on some medications or on street drugs. I seen Alex Murdaugh son doing the tongue thrusting on the stand. It’s sad. That’s why I looked up this video. Very sad what happens to people because of man made drugs or drugs!
Anyone develop TD from taking Ziprasidone/Geodon? This is the antipsychotic I’m on now and I’m worried that I will develop TD
I started geodon two months ago. Typical paranoid me(hence the geodon) I felt my tongue pushing up against my teeth however its rhythmic. I worried until I realized I no longer suck my thumb. I was a chronic thumbsucker up through adulthood. Until starting Geodon. The doctor showing one of the tests for td is not being able to hold the tongue in. I tried it in front of a mirror. I can do so easily. That relieved my anxiety and my hyperawareness of it greatly lessened. Now I hardly notice it at all. I do none of the movements displayed by the doctor.
Come on, Do it. Do it.
He's fun.
Why it happens ? What is the reason
Ik I'm late but
Most commonly caused by taking certain medications, usually antipsychotics
20mg diaziapam 2 beer befiee sleep did improve td tongue before you have to eat good and tolerance
English please
So just facial movements?
No, its all over the body.
The joker in a nutshell
dedication 😊