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  • Daryl Sawchuk, Visual Effects Supervisor for Method Studios and Animation Supervisor for Black Panther, gives WIRED an exclusive look at breakdowns of the digital Black Panther and Kilmonger suits, and the final fight scene of Marvel's mega-blockbuster.
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  • @hafezelachkar7810
    @hafezelachkar7810 4 года назад +632

    RIP the legend who even did his own stunts while battling cancer you wont be forgotten.

    • @elliast
      @elliast 4 года назад +7

      Hafez Elachkar ong. RIP Chadwick Boseman, AKA King T’Chala. ✊🏿

    • @elliast
      @elliast 4 года назад +2

      Nitin Shravan.S yessir

    • @kennethstermer3950
      @kennethstermer3950 3 года назад +1

      WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer 6 лет назад +249

    Marvel's team are masters at roto-cg. It's crazy that characters like Spider-Man barely even have to wear practical costumes anymore.

    • @bando-od7yt
      @bando-od7yt 4 года назад +3

      it's usually done in India.

    • @James-nv1wf
      @James-nv1wf 2 года назад

      @@bando-od7yt Canada too

  • @penart8079
    @penart8079 6 лет назад +2237

    Iron man 1 CGI still surprises me to this day

    • @sanjithtamballa
      @sanjithtamballa 6 лет назад +9

      pen art same!

    • @yaboij.j3423
      @yaboij.j3423 6 лет назад +6

      Why

    • @fionali4453
      @fionali4453 6 лет назад +181

      it was extremely realistic and it was also made in 2005. the arc reactor, suit, flying scenes over the desert, etc, were all very well done for CGI in that time

    • @babasxn
      @babasxn 6 лет назад +56

      Jon Favreau kinda sticked to practical effects rather than using CGI for everything.

    • @duckentity4515
      @duckentity4515 6 лет назад +39

      @@fionali4453 The movie is form 2008 and was filmed in 2007

  • @SlytherStudios
    @SlytherStudios 6 лет назад +1776

    This was my favorite animated movie of the year! Maybe they'll make a live action version one day.

    • @lordvoldemort2066
      @lordvoldemort2066 6 лет назад +87

      the tunnel part was worst

    • @kricojed9657
      @kricojed9657 6 лет назад +59

      BuT iSn'T iT aLrEaDy LiVe AcTiOn

    • @sran438
      @sran438 6 лет назад +21

      Random idiot: “Durrrr, but isn’t it walready live action... duhhhhh...” XD

    • @zeph_youtuberz6130
      @zeph_youtuberz6130 6 лет назад +6

      YeSh It Is

    • @clebtv893
      @clebtv893 6 лет назад +13

      @@kricojed9657 R/wOoSH

  • @legomoviesstudios8822
    @legomoviesstudios8822 6 лет назад +106

    "We ended up doing full CG replacements for the actors"
    well that explains why the actions scene sometimes looked like a video game

  • @TheZoeBig
    @TheZoeBig 6 лет назад +3718

    The problem with CGI is that you only notice it when it's bad

    • @bdnotb6364
      @bdnotb6364 5 лет назад +104

      Wow I never heard something accurate when it comes to cgi I 100% agree with u

    • @illuminazi9208
      @illuminazi9208 5 лет назад +10

      That's SOO true

    • @kennethschaijk8698
      @kennethschaijk8698 5 лет назад +43

      true, and black panther sucked black balls lol

    • @nadimkazi87
      @nadimkazi87 5 лет назад +20

      *Just like Salt in food*

    • @NoisyRogue
      @NoisyRogue 5 лет назад +14

      Behizy guy don’t lie green lanterns was better than what this movie produced it the final fight looked like a Mobil phone everyone on the theater cringed because of it during the final fight

  • @MrGNugget
    @MrGNugget 6 лет назад +1370

    The CGI in that final battle was horrendous, but everything else was great. Shoutout to them for making Wakanda look like a real place

    • @dumebiafran1180
      @dumebiafran1180 6 лет назад +33

      The name wakanda is a real village in Uganda.

    • @spencerleo5126
      @spencerleo5126 5 лет назад +42

      @@dumebiafran1180 pretty sure it isnt full of skyscrapers

    • @dumebiafran1180
      @dumebiafran1180 5 лет назад +12

      @@spencerleo5126 I know, I was talking about the name.

    • @ghostyy6081
      @ghostyy6081 5 лет назад +47

      MrGNugget apperantly the ending scene was bad because the studio was running short on time and they had to finish it in 2 weeks so they had to make all the last fight scene in 2 weeks

    • @fariszeidan8495
      @fariszeidan8495 5 лет назад +47

      @@ghostyy6081 Well actually, they had 6 weeks. But thats still a very short amount of time to animate a fight.

  • @ChrisKoelsch
    @ChrisKoelsch 6 лет назад +1428

    If CG is good you don't notice it. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not. Either way it does make me slightly sad when I find out that almost nothing in a scene is real.

    • @martinn5626
      @martinn5626 6 лет назад +61

      This 'n That Studio That's just normal in every kind of movies even Ikeas Catalogue is 80% cgi

    • @itsdogpaw
      @itsdogpaw 6 лет назад +6

      waterside Wakanda, MD

    • @abdul0basit123456789
      @abdul0basit123456789 6 лет назад +3

      yeah bro nothing real.like 90 % movie is cg.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 6 лет назад +5

      If you want to know amazing cgi. Wolf of wall street has some and you would never have known! Board walk empire..,etc

    • @Killm33
      @Killm33 6 лет назад +30

      LOL People are definitely going overboard saying the cgi in Black panther is bad.

  • @hughdr10
    @hughdr10 6 лет назад +18

    How can someone dislike this video? This is absolutely amazing and must’ve taken forever to get it just right. My hats off to the folks that spent many a sleepless nights to accomplish such amazing VFX. Thank you! 🙌🏾

  • @JamesSmith-uc8nt
    @JamesSmith-uc8nt 5 лет назад +286

    It was uneeded to animate his costume 90% of the time. He looked 1000x better in Civil War and that ending fight scene was unacceptable

    • @brettquinn9040
      @brettquinn9040 5 лет назад +9

      Fax

    • @detroitfan9596
      @detroitfan9596 4 года назад +4

      DryAssChicken I agree. In civil war he had a real suit. I also wish the final fight between them was like Winter Soldier

    • @amanofreviews
      @amanofreviews 4 года назад +18

      I wouldn’t say unacceptable but it looked weird, tho the choreography was really nice

    • @NomTom
      @NomTom 4 года назад +3

      I mean, they said in this video why most of the suit was CGI

    • @ozkan576
      @ozkan576 4 года назад +1

      His Civil War costume was easily the best

  • @xg4rt
    @xg4rt 6 лет назад +1248

    “I neva Freez”

    • @smoker3092
      @smoker3092 6 лет назад +19

      G4RT except he was frozen when he was in coma

    • @JurgenCutters
      @JurgenCutters 6 лет назад +7

      Frrreeeeze. Do u no da way?

    • @AJT-
      @AJT- 6 лет назад +24

      JurgenCutters that is a dead meme dont say it again

    • @JurgenCutters
      @JurgenCutters 6 лет назад +2

      Plasma Dragon well, Black Panther started it..

    • @beangus3092
      @beangus3092 6 лет назад +7

      JurgenCutters no it didnt...

  • @slorr55
    @slorr55 6 лет назад +2609

    This looks hard

    • @marqparks
      @marqparks 6 лет назад +196

      That's what she said.

    • @kardasdragon123
      @kardasdragon123 6 лет назад +218

      As a 3D student, it is.

    • @whatwhatwhatwhat3953
      @whatwhatwhatwhat3953 6 лет назад +80

      Yup, but the pay off earns millions of dollars for them

    • @abyssabyssabyss
      @abyssabyssabyss 6 лет назад +138

      Dame Dollar not really, animators don’t make too much compared to what others earn in the production of these movies earn.

    • @whatwhatwhatwhat3953
      @whatwhatwhatwhat3953 6 лет назад +11

      coffee keeps me going oh what I was referring to the whole production and cast of the movie when I said that, not only animators. But I wouldn’t lie, I would expect that animators get atleast a million dollars.

  • @EpicBeard815
    @EpicBeard815 6 лет назад +840

    "We ended up doing full CG replacements for the actors"
    Yeah. We could tell.

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius 6 лет назад +77

      It wasn't as good as it could be is what's wrong. It looks good, yes, but it's easy to tell where full CG is. I can almost always tell which scenes have full CG Iron Man armor layered over RDJ's body, and it pulls you out of the movie.

    • @insectumvolant9649
      @insectumvolant9649 6 лет назад +19

      Cartonz Proz marvel movies don’t usually do that. It shows how much this was just a political piece of crap

    • @hackfraudfilms
      @hackfraudfilms 6 лет назад +26

      I couldn’t.

    • @Toaster-jr5eo
      @Toaster-jr5eo 6 лет назад +17

      Meesa Bombad Warrior It may have been a reason to mainly have black characters, but it was still great. They didn't focus on the fact that they weren't white males *cough cough Ghostbusters*.

    • @oluwasegunsamuel6196
      @oluwasegunsamuel6196 6 лет назад +11

      Draco Safarius isn't that the same with many fiction movies I mean we can all tell which is CGI. Why using that to discredit this movie

  • @mattceccotti
    @mattceccotti 6 лет назад +18

    I had the pleasure of having Daryl as my animation supervisor on a previous movie and he’s awesome, both as a person and as a leader.

    • @joshuajoe1419
      @joshuajoe1419 2 года назад +2

      Wanted to see if this was legit so searched you up on IMBd and If that list is accurate, impressive resume.

    • @mattceccotti
      @mattceccotti 2 года назад +1

      @@joshuajoe1419 Thanks Joshua!

  • @arthurduarte5212
    @arthurduarte5212 5 лет назад +394

    Much of the cgi of black panther was exaggerated, the killmonger and t challa fight scene locked like video game

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 5 лет назад +5

      Way way worse i cringe just thinking about it baaarf

    • @axillucks4532
      @axillucks4532 5 лет назад +3

      This is the fault of CGI

    • @ayeitzdj
      @ayeitzdj 5 лет назад +20

      Majority of the people hating on cgi are white

    • @jugjivan
      @jugjivan 5 лет назад +5

      That scene was rushed into the film and was done because the original scene that was mostly SFX failed to meet film standards while the CGI scene was an improvement despite it's flaws.

    • @beckscamscambeck6389
      @beckscamscambeck6389 5 лет назад +6

      χσνєятιмєχ wtf Does race have to do with anything u fuckhead racist

  • @tylergalinanes9515
    @tylergalinanes9515 6 лет назад +288

    The CGI in the third act looked like two people made of rubber fighting in a PS2 cutscene.

    • @GoffCool
      @GoffCool 6 лет назад +17

      No PS3 cutscene.
      PS2 looks way way worse.

    • @tylergalinanes9515
      @tylergalinanes9515 6 лет назад +9

      Goff Cool Yeah, that's fair.
      Edit: Not being sarcastic, I agree with you.

    • @GoffCool
      @GoffCool 6 лет назад +3

      Sweet. Glad we can agree on something. Have a nice day.

    • @tylergalinanes9515
      @tylergalinanes9515 6 лет назад +2

      Goff Cool Same to you.

    • @ryanoco7
      @ryanoco7 6 лет назад +3

      Tyler Galinanes blade 2 gummi physics

  • @RareVideosByJavierVargasTV
    @RareVideosByJavierVargasTV 6 лет назад +1238

    WAYYY too much CGI in the movie, good movie but the best parts were without CGI like the fights at the waterfall

    • @Dizyland_
      @Dizyland_ 6 лет назад +336

      Youdo realize the WHOLE background for all the waterfall scenes is CGI right?

    • @Mcaden101
      @Mcaden101 6 лет назад +48

      Dizyland r/woosh

    • @erads2185
      @erads2185 6 лет назад +129

      Basically everything in the movie is CGI, Wakanda isn't a real place you know.

    • @rdp2639
      @rdp2639 6 лет назад +63

      Oh Yeah? Tell that to the CG animated Raccoon whom got no backlash. Or the taking tree!

    • @daneoman1000
      @daneoman1000 6 лет назад +13

      The waterfall fight had a tonne of CGI

  • @Janthdanl
    @Janthdanl 6 лет назад +1026

    The train fight scene cgi was awful, everything else was pretty amazing though, those rhinos were dope

    • @xmanxtreme1195
      @xmanxtreme1195 6 лет назад +19

      Janthdanl you have a very bad taste of movies then my friend.

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 6 лет назад +154

      Xman Xtreme Given that a lot more people liked it than disliked it, id say you have the bad taste.

    • @santiagodelagarza2849
      @santiagodelagarza2849 6 лет назад +89

      SSTWELVE those rhinos were really badly made. And economic success does not equals a good movie. Ever heard of the Transformers saga? Fast and Furious?

    • @hudsonhintze
      @hudsonhintze 6 лет назад +96

      Yeah like the movie itself was good but it is true that the CGI was definitely bad. All of the professional reviews mentioned the bad CG

    • @briansmith2328
      @briansmith2328 6 лет назад +33

      a - muse - me I think you mean financial success. The movie was positively received by critics and audiences alike. But I do agree that the CGI in the train scene and the Rhinos was really poor. But the movie was still amazing in my opinion.

  • @vandetta2894
    @vandetta2894 6 лет назад +19

    Everyone watching: "Oh, cool! That's how they did that"
    Also Everyone: " I still dont understand what they're doing"

  • @nikee04jordan84
    @nikee04jordan84 4 года назад +46

    R.I.P CHADWICK😭 WE WILL MISS YOU, WAKANDA FOREVER!✊🏽💔

  • @General0006RBX
    @General0006RBX 6 лет назад +897

    CGI was below usual Marvel standards in my opinion.

    • @competitive_sock
      @competitive_sock 6 лет назад +186

      GenStudios sometimes I think the older iron man suits look way better than the full cg ones in Infinity War ugh

    • @hastalavista3814
      @hastalavista3814 6 лет назад +34

      Mister Bushido iron man always was cgi

    • @farazahmed7
      @farazahmed7 6 лет назад +64

      el Papacito not before Disney bought Marvel. Ironman 1 suit was a physical one

    • @ConnorEllisMusic
      @ConnorEllisMusic 6 лет назад +97

      No it wasn't. They made a physical suit of the Mark 2 for lighting reference but what you see in the film is CG.

    • @orijimi
      @orijimi 6 лет назад +50

      Yeah, all of the heroes with skin tight suits in Marvel's movies have been weirdly unconvincing. For instance, Spider-Man's appearance in Civil War was remarkably bad. Ant-Man was somehow done better, though. And I feel like (at least for its time) Tobey Maguire's CGI Spider-Man was way more convincing, particularly in the face.

  • @_mew
    @_mew 6 лет назад +29

    I wish they had used a mix of practical effects and CGI because it looked so weird during the last fight

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius 6 лет назад +2

      Practical with CGI touch ups is almost always a better look, unless animators go balls to the wall to make it match real life quality.

  • @walternate2914
    @walternate2914 6 лет назад +55

    Guy should have spent some more time on those rhinos, the final fight between Black Panther and Kill Monger, and background at the challenge pool.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад

      Andrew Wadsworth why

    • @walternate2914
      @walternate2914 6 лет назад +7

      Because it lacked weight/was noticeably CGI. Rest of the movie was great.

  • @the_selchies
    @the_selchies 6 лет назад +179

    Why does Black Panther even need to be animated? I can understand some scenes where he’s jumping or getting knocked back but when he’s just walking or running? I hope they improve on the sequel.

    • @theotherside931
      @theotherside931 6 лет назад +2

      The Selchies There won't be a sequel.

    • @katherinejennings7304
      @katherinejennings7304 6 лет назад +77

      This film made a billion dollars there will definitely be a sequel, use your brain frank

    • @jennyms1998
      @jennyms1998 6 лет назад +9

      yeah true, I think its kinda sad how much people rely on CGI these days ...

    • @katherinejennings7304
      @katherinejennings7304 6 лет назад +23

      Johnny Boy You are so out of line and ignorant ,check yourself. I don't know why or who told you it was ok to say the N word but its not. You're disgusting and Im reporting you.

    • @sodalight84
      @sodalight84 6 лет назад +5

      A lot of it needs to be replaced because its difficult to create a costume that looks as technologically advanced as wakandan tech. Seams and wrinkles is a big issue. Also, his suit stores kinetic energy which is difficult to visually show that in real life.

  • @dejaelexiao551
    @dejaelexiao551 6 лет назад +9

    I don’t think people truly see how amazing this is and how much time and effort these people take to build these up, I honestly applaud anybody behind this, of. It’s not gonna look totally real because it’s NOT but it’s still nothing short of amazing.., Hats off too them the people who don’t get glorified or seen 🤞🏿

  • @lonewolfgamingplus379
    @lonewolfgamingplus379 6 лет назад +715

    The CGI looks (in my opinion) so bad here, it looks like PS3 game. I really wanted a Creed style final battle between T'challa and Killmonger in where they both have Black Panther suits and they engage in a fist fight like true warriors not this overblown, CGI mess. Don't care about Disney coming in and saying "that's too bloody, too violence" because shooting people and seeing a building blow up in Civil War is okay with them.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад +4

      Lennie Binale not and you do no that ps3 graphics are awesome?

    • @Minecraftlover581
      @Minecraftlover581 6 лет назад +62

      You try and do the CGI then...

    • @lonewolfgamingplus379
      @lonewolfgamingplus379 6 лет назад +34

      hunter holevas Oh no you should. At least try a 3D model i really want to see what you can do.

    • @lonewolfgamingplus379
      @lonewolfgamingplus379 6 лет назад +2

      T. Stamp Agree. My stepdad even admits that too. And he doesn't even watch CBM's daily as i do.

    • @joefresh9675
      @joefresh9675 6 лет назад +78

      You don't have to be able to make CGI yourself to see that it's not up to scratch. Other movies of the year looked a lot better in that respect. He's making no comment about the overall film, there's no need to take it personally.

  • @henryfrith2671
    @henryfrith2671 5 лет назад +169

    when you have beautiful practical suits why don't you use them and build the scenes around the suits instead of giving my eyes an aneurysm. it would have cost less as well.

    • @spdcrzy
      @spdcrzy 5 лет назад +11

      Because they break. Vibranium doesn't exist in the real world. Not yet, anyways.

  • @showtime5910
    @showtime5910 6 лет назад +579

    Anybody else who isn’t bugged by the CGI?

  • @DrAdnan
    @DrAdnan 6 лет назад +1

    Black Panther is one of those movies that is so good it just keeps getting better the more you learn about it.

  • @savedeion749
    @savedeion749 6 лет назад +871

    Worst part of the movie was the CGI, that tunnel fight was atrocious.

    • @maxnovikov1537
      @maxnovikov1537 6 лет назад +27

      Just Deion you cant do much better can you?

    • @savedeion749
      @savedeion749 6 лет назад +76

      Actually I can, just ask your mom

    • @yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473
      @yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473 6 лет назад +160

      Max Playz saying someone cant criticize something just because said person cant do better is invalid

    • @darthjoc
      @darthjoc 6 лет назад +31

      Yes. It was terrible. The live action fights look cool and i love the choreography in the waterfall scenes. But when the black panther is in costume its terrible. Especially seeing how good it looked in civil war. His movements especially feel like theres no weight to them. Theyre supposed to have catlike movements but they end up feeiling weightless. Such a shame cuz its a really good movie.

    • @eldritchagent9625
      @eldritchagent9625 6 лет назад +8

      Marvel Films aren’t known for their groundbreaking CGI and Camerawork.
      They’re known for their groundbreaking ambition and character development.
      The story here and how it connects with the overall greater universe is what makes the film so great.

  • @WalrusisintheMatrix
    @WalrusisintheMatrix 6 лет назад +464

    IMO the visuals in BP dragged me out of the experience. Firstly, when you draw so much attention to the CGI with these unrealistic camera movements, like the exploding car shot and the climax on Wakanda, it's hard not to notice.
    The worst part for me is how disingenuous the landscapes feel--it's pretty hard to get taken in by these beautiful African landscapes and actors commenting "wow it looks so beautiful" when I know in the back of my mind it's all just been filmed in a studio in Atlanta. Obviously there's not a lot the VFX artists can do about that... I just wonder if it would be so much to ask for Marvel with their huge bucks to actually send their actors to a real location for once. The Norway scene in Thor 3 had similar issues.

    • @iTzKneecap
      @iTzKneecap 6 лет назад +48

      Walrus is in the Matrix
      In defense of Ragnarok that entire scene in Norway was supposed to take place in an NYC back alley (as shown in the trailer) but they changed it in post-production. Could've been better still.

    • @WalrusisintheMatrix
      @WalrusisintheMatrix 6 лет назад +53

      I heard that too. I'm not blaming the post production team, they always do a great job. But I just think filmmakers have gotten kinda lazy in relying on VFX teams to pick up the pieces, and as a result, sometimes the films are worse off for it. Landscapes seem to be one of the hardest things to get right, cause they're deceptively simple.

    • @eeweka1
      @eeweka1 6 лет назад +3

      Walrus is in the Matrix as a fan of the movie, I totally agree with you.

    • @jameslamb7197
      @jameslamb7197 6 лет назад +8

      I thought the same. It really bugged me more than it should have but the CGI used for fight scenes were really off.

    • @rachkate76
      @rachkate76 6 лет назад +1

      Walrus is in the Matrix Finally someone said it.

  • @isaacgrenierd.l.681
    @isaacgrenierd.l.681 6 лет назад +5

    2:44 when your classmates hear you got chewing-gums

  • @wolfpack3689
    @wolfpack3689 6 лет назад +10

    That's really cool
    "Wakanda Forever!"

  • @salt6787
    @salt6787 6 лет назад +32

    I just realised Kilmonger changed his hair further in the movie,so like who did his hair in Wakanda? 😂😂😂

    • @rokaanalzeer
      @rokaanalzeer 6 лет назад +9

      SALT hey when you’re about to take over the world, you gotta look good!

    • @RoyaltoonzHD
      @RoyaltoonzHD 5 лет назад +6

      Well, I guess Erik had one of th e servants cornrow his dreadlocks for hin

    • @delphimichaels164
      @delphimichaels164 5 лет назад +3

      He was king for a bit so he had resources.

  • @CB_here
    @CB_here 5 лет назад +53

    The cgi was pretty good until the train fight, that was pretty bad

  • @ZDEyE
    @ZDEyE 6 лет назад +556

    I am disappointed in the Infinity War... Where was the Rhinos???

    • @nithinprasad2921
      @nithinprasad2921 6 лет назад +73

      ZDEyE no border tribe , no w'akabi ...so no rhino , makes sense now?

    • @Gartard0r
      @Gartard0r 6 лет назад +56

      rhino now facing extinction #saveearth

    • @alienboi8397
      @alienboi8397 6 лет назад +12

      did you really wanna see animals die?? of course theyre fake but it would've been still sad

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc 6 лет назад +24

      I mean, those were pretty poorly animated tbh.

    • @MRLONG758
      @MRLONG758 6 лет назад +15

      Nithin Prasad there was a border tribe in infinity war. Who do you think the guys with the cloth shields standing behind t'challa was?

  • @ShakiraNae
    @ShakiraNae 6 лет назад +417

    This was sooooooo dope

    • @jamesjross
      @jamesjross 6 лет назад +9

      nope

    • @Jessica.000
      @Jessica.000 6 лет назад +7

      Jamie Ross Yes.

    • @kachosuffer7
      @kachosuffer7 6 лет назад

      Jamie Ross It's his opinion. So stfu please

    • @lucasferreira028
      @lucasferreira028 6 лет назад

      yeah,I really wanna buy this new Black Panther game for my PS3

  • @roberttaylor9259
    @roberttaylor9259 6 лет назад +15

    I get most CGI but it baffles me why they feel the need to resize the heads of the actors to make them look smaller when the helmets are on. I know bobblehead effect but still after you notice it, its almost unseeable.

  • @TwoWheelAussie
    @TwoWheelAussie 6 лет назад +33

    Jesus! Imagine how boring movies would be without editing or animation effects

  • @eddiemeggs4018
    @eddiemeggs4018 4 года назад +3

    1:25 The audience already knew he was alive.

  • @lauranschultz629
    @lauranschultz629 6 лет назад +8

    Its so awesome that they can make this!

  • @haroonfarhang159
    @haroonfarhang159 6 лет назад +299

    Ps2 graphics at 3:11
    Literally the worst CGI in MCU

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад +4

      HA-R00N FA-HA wrongo

    • @maxim196
      @maxim196 6 лет назад +50

      find me a ps2 game that looks as good i dare you

    • @ColecionaveisGT
      @ColecionaveisGT 6 лет назад +60

      Final Fantasy on ps2 has cutscenes that look better than that.

    • @kevensdesrosiers
      @kevensdesrosiers 6 лет назад +24

      Final Fantasty Cinematics and Cutscenes look better than some movies tbh

    • @ColecionaveisGT
      @ColecionaveisGT 6 лет назад +16

      Goulactic dared internet people so he had it coming.

  • @shaanraza1
    @shaanraza1 6 лет назад +255

    And they say DC uses a lot of CGI.... Cgi is necessary in superhero movies...

    • @shaanraza1
      @shaanraza1 6 лет назад +57

      I meant the 2 universes... MCU and DCEU genius!! Understand the comment first, KID!

    • @alexisogbemudia5458
      @alexisogbemudia5458 6 лет назад +50

      SHAAN thought it was pretty obvious you meant dceu but not everyone is smart

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc 6 лет назад

      It is VERY necessary, wtf do you mean?

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc 6 лет назад +1

      Also yes DC (DCEU) does use a lot of CGI. Take a look at many of their recent villains.

    • @shaanraza1
      @shaanraza1 6 лет назад +2

      As expected, starting doing mother father... Haha.. so manly of you UFC MAN :D :D

  • @marquionyt
    @marquionyt 4 года назад +5

    *Rest In Peace Chadwick.*

  • @koni00004
    @koni00004 6 лет назад +3

    Wow, really admire the dedication and effort these guys put to bring this film to life. Great job👏👏👏

  • @rafaugm
    @rafaugm 6 лет назад +390

    Below average CGI and way too much of it, it was quite noticeable while watching the film.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад +1

      rafaugm not

    • @MrParanoia
      @MrParanoia 6 лет назад +35

      Well considering most of the movie takes place in that fantasy place where Black Panther and the tribe live and the fancy high tech they have you would need a lot of CGI, I don't know what else they could've done without much CGI but if you got a idea how they could've worked around it I'm all ears

    • @mun123keet
      @mun123keet 6 лет назад +30

      RatchyGames The CGI for Wakanda was great. It is only when you get to the final fight scene in the movie as though as their budget ran out for better CGI.

    • @Jazz-ob3xy
      @Jazz-ob3xy 6 лет назад +6

      RatchyGames game of thrones, fantasy world but better cgi. I didn’t mind the black panther cgi but definitely could’ve been toned down a bit

    • @OneTwentyOver80
      @OneTwentyOver80 6 лет назад +1

      RatchyGames did you watch the video?

  • @StoneOcean
    @StoneOcean 6 лет назад +79

    The only thing I did not like with this film was the end animations. Looked to plastic and fake for a big budget movie. Otherwise it was okey :)

  • @ratedE
    @ratedE 6 лет назад +35

    Tbh I don’t think the CGI on most vehicle scenes were done correctly with shadows and textures :) but great film overall

    • @venim3404
      @venim3404 6 лет назад +1

      Exactly movie was great overall but the terrible cgi kinda ruined the flow of the movie

    • @j.moon98
      @j.moon98 6 лет назад

      I love the movie but I agree with you especially with the Space Bugatti at the last scene.

  • @mathiasvoorhees6232
    @mathiasvoorhees6232 5 лет назад +32

    I'm guessing the last battle was made by the same people behind Resident Evil 1.

  • @gpoop23
    @gpoop23 6 лет назад +5

    4:11 "That involves a lot of photography of them both with and without their suits on."
    Go on...

  • @sancheezzzy2712
    @sancheezzzy2712 6 лет назад +343

    Going to be honest but the CGI for this film was lowkey trash. Especially the suits for Black Panther.

    • @nathanbruce1992
      @nathanbruce1992 6 лет назад +24

      Sancheezy: was it this bad in Captain America: Civil War? I remember it being wayyyy better

    • @sancheezzzy2712
      @sancheezzzy2712 6 лет назад +34

      Nathan Bruce civil war had better CGI than BP but I still disliked the CGI in civil war hence having a full on CGI airport, CGI spiderman, CGI Black Panther. I like having real costumes but it’s whatever.

    • @nolan1734
      @nolan1734 6 лет назад +9

      Spiderman actually wasn't CGI, they only edited in the eyes.; it just looked heavily CGI because of the lighting.

    • @psychdraws6462
      @psychdraws6462 6 лет назад +15

      Marvel was saving money for infinity war. You can see how good the cgi was in infinity war

    • @THEK1NGSCLAN
      @THEK1NGSCLAN 6 лет назад +8

      Cgi in Civil War was great, Infinity War as well

  • @Xshot12
    @Xshot12 6 лет назад +7

    I love all the people saying “the cgi was terrible” like why don’t you do cgi with hundreds of small pieces and see how it turns out.. not everything turns out perfect and with all the cgi they had to do they can’t get every detail like other movies. You come here and say they do a terrible job at their passion. How would you feel if someone did that to you.

    • @Shazasterforever1
      @Shazasterforever1 6 лет назад +3

      Surge I would take there criticism and try to add improvements in myself instead of sitting here whining about it on the internet.

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant 6 лет назад +2

      Shazasterman saying “the cgi was trash” is not criticism that is just insult

    • @Xshot12
      @Xshot12 6 лет назад +1

      WarioGiant exactly

  • @roentgen822
    @roentgen822 6 лет назад +193

    Just came for the comments to see if anyone else thought the CG was trash.

    • @CakeMonsTv
      @CakeMonsTv 6 лет назад +13

      It wasnt all trash. 3d compositing is some scenes felt cheap and old time like people didnt fit into the scene. Like those fights on waterfalls

    • @gu5k7y
      @gu5k7y 6 лет назад

      Same

    • @armaanibrahim
      @armaanibrahim 5 лет назад +1

      R u a dc fan

    • @justrandom5012
      @justrandom5012 5 лет назад

      yeah so dumb XD

    •  4 года назад +1

      Naah,If u can make it better,say its trush

  • @vermilion4447
    @vermilion4447 4 года назад

    This visual artists are the one who brightens the movie in our hearts

  • @Jessica.000
    @Jessica.000 6 лет назад +1

    The visual effects for this movie was on a whole another level😍💞🔥🔥🔥

  • @ferdyhoshigakitube
    @ferdyhoshigakitube 6 лет назад +33

    If you watch Black Panther then watch civil war. You can see in civil war all the BP movement looks more believable.
    Dont get me wrong this CG is remarkable, some scene i cant really see the difference. But i just prefer BP movement in civil war.

    • @ابنعبدالرحيم
      @ابنعبدالرحيم 6 лет назад +4

      See, what you said is your opinion, which is cool. Everyone else is assuming things they know nothing about.

    • @winnywinnarts
      @winnywinnarts 6 лет назад +6

      DNTwtch THSchnnl um what are you talking about? The movements in black panther are very stiff and unrealistic, while in CW, it wasn’t, as they didn’t use CGI.

    • @ابنعبدالرحيم
      @ابنعبدالرحيم 6 лет назад +2

      @@winnywinnarts I'm saying that that's not true. The Russo Brothers' cut-y style allowed for it not to be so obvious, but in all the movies Black Panther has been in, his suit is CGI almost 100% of the time. Check out some of the VFX breakdowns for Civil War and Black Panther to see what I mean.

    • @saulloll8547
      @saulloll8547 5 лет назад +1

      @@ابنعبدالرحيم they actually used the actor (not sure if stunt) with a crappy BP suit and just traced with CGI so that's why CW had more believable movement.

  • @CaughtInTheLoop
    @CaughtInTheLoop 5 лет назад +11

    So this is how they messed up the VFX in the third act. Interesting!

    • @danny-mb3pe
      @danny-mb3pe 4 года назад

      The didn't have much time to render

  • @minorking1121
    @minorking1121 6 лет назад +48

    What a weird topic for a video when the CGI has been one of the main criticisms of the film. Drawing more attention to it is bizarre. Those Rhinos...yikes.

  • @emackb1457
    @emackb1457 6 лет назад

    Wired.....I LOVE that you are doing these types of videos. Please don’t stop 🙌

  • @Protypemd
    @Protypemd 5 лет назад

    very good, I realize a fault in 7:37 left there are rocks with grass the scene cuts and back and the grass disappears and only the most visible stones remain

  • @eniayoayoola1442
    @eniayoayoola1442 6 лет назад +4

    What he said at 9:07 really sticks with me. Imagine pouring hundreds of hours developing CGI movie scenes only to see the movie fail 😬

    • @eniayoayoola1442
      @eniayoayoola1442 6 лет назад +1

      Donte S
      I meant movies in general. Black Panther did very well 😀

  • @bruceU
    @bruceU 6 лет назад +65

    some of the cg in this looked really bad. like videogame render bad. studios need to try to do as much physically as possible

    • @PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber
      @PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber 6 лет назад +2

      Either the CGI looks video-game level bad or video-games has improved incredibly in graphical fidelity over the past several years.

    • @VanSanProductions
      @VanSanProductions 6 лет назад +5

      @@PrabhablyAGoodRUclipsr well there is a photorealistic expectation with modern big budget movies. with games we still can ignore a lot of things because it's a game. I think we are still 10-20 years off truly photorealistic gaming.
      I do think some CG can look bad because we don't have anything to relate to. Impossible camera movements and physical things that don't exist in real life can make CGI look bad even if the CG itself is well done.

    • @shivam.mishra7300
      @shivam.mishra7300 5 лет назад

      What is more expensive CG or really doing,

    • @justrandom5012
      @justrandom5012 5 лет назад

      do it better

    • @tripplec03
      @tripplec03 5 лет назад

      @@justrandom5012 I'd like to see you do it better

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 6 лет назад +660

    WHAT ADOOOOSE

    • @NickMeister77
      @NickMeister77 6 лет назад +17

      They are my crocs!

    • @joshou3759
      @joshou3759 6 лет назад +31

      Three years later:
      Shuri: do u no de wae

    • @toiletsponge
      @toiletsponge 6 лет назад +6

      Kill me

    • @snitchbug
      @snitchbug 6 лет назад +9

      Those are my T’Chanclas!

    • @jarg8
      @jarg8 6 лет назад +16

      seasong literally the worst, most embarrassing joke in the entire film.

  • @rulquanlive
    @rulquanlive 4 года назад +1

    Long Live The King 🖤🖤🖤

  • @owentbreen
    @owentbreen 6 лет назад +1

    i feel like in a movie like this, no actor can be nominated best actor

  • @alexman378
    @alexman378 5 лет назад +3

    The effects of the specific company are usually stellar. My only explanation was that they used most of their members in Infinity War, and they were left with the bare minimum to finish this film.

  • @Brgnd67
    @Brgnd67 6 лет назад +84

    When LOTR was released more than 15 years ago, with worse cgi but still much more believable and immersive...

    • @modarnwarfare2rull
      @modarnwarfare2rull 6 лет назад +23

      It honestly had better CGI.

    • @modarnwarfare2rull
      @modarnwarfare2rull 6 лет назад +24

      The worst CGI in LOTR is better than whatever was the train fight.

    • @lucasferreira028
      @lucasferreira028 6 лет назад +10

      isn't it funny?even 1993 Jurassic park is much more real than Black Panther...Ok,Jurassic Park had the best visuals ever for me,but still

    • @MrGister9999
      @MrGister9999 6 лет назад +1

      Derp Herp lmao that was one scene. The whole movie had tons of CGI it's obvious that they ran out of money.

    • @majin5961
      @majin5961 4 года назад +1

      ...nano suits look like CGI....👌🤣

  • @Nick-cy2tn
    @Nick-cy2tn 6 лет назад +193

    The CG budget for this movie was $58

    • @professorsir2308
      @professorsir2308 6 лет назад +7

      Nick no only 4 dollars

    • @GhostscoperHD
      @GhostscoperHD 6 лет назад +21

      Yet the movie made more than you could in 348 lifetimes.

    • @shallowsparks3978
      @shallowsparks3978 6 лет назад

      As if you are making that kind of money on a regular basis.

    • @ryanmadej6694
      @ryanmadej6694 5 лет назад

      Oh just shut up aquaman was made less than 40 million dollar less than bp and still its one the greatest visual effects ever made

    • @spencerleo5126
      @spencerleo5126 5 лет назад +2

      @@ryanmadej6694 i think he was kidding... he was making fun of how bad the cgi was for such an expensive movie. and honestly i thought aquaman wasn't bad cgi, but some of the big cgi scenes really looked like a 2010 videogame.\

  • @Haanedai
    @Haanedai 6 лет назад

    VFX breakdowns are the best!!

  • @sanakhvi
    @sanakhvi 6 лет назад

    3:00
    At this moment, and few others, it looked so much like an animate movie.
    I think there is still lot of progress to make in this field.

  • @Lensbreak
    @Lensbreak 6 лет назад +25

    1:35 why do they have a block with some fire on it? what is it for? as reference of the scale of the fire?

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant 6 лет назад +1

      Lensbreak Studios yes

    • @rohanimations
      @rohanimations 4 года назад +6

      I’m two years late to replying but my guess would be lighting reference for the digital fire and maybe wind direction?

    • @mothspaces
      @mothspaces 3 года назад

      We don't question things

  • @louismahon6834
    @louismahon6834 5 лет назад +4

    no-one:
    black panther: It's okay, if most things are CGI, nobody will notice when we get tired and make entire scenes CG animated.

  • @hbouyb
    @hbouyb 6 лет назад +52

    CGI was honestly the worst part in the movie

    • @sicfxmusic
      @sicfxmusic 6 лет назад

      You should stick to your favorite 80s movies

    • @MooseRun60
      @MooseRun60 6 лет назад

      Carl CIFER ever watch John wick?

    • @sicfxmusic
      @sicfxmusic 6 лет назад

      I wonder why you didn't complain about this:
      ruclips.net/video/OIptOPZLGDM/видео.html

  • @chukanyanwu796
    @chukanyanwu796 6 лет назад

    You guys are the true heroes of the movies , because that doesn’t look easy

  • @bonachothe2677
    @bonachothe2677 4 года назад +1

    R.I.P THE KING T'CHALLA

  • @dhevamitradoshanmugasuntha7979
    @dhevamitradoshanmugasuntha7979 4 года назад +3

    Now, coming back to this video, I realized why a lot of the fights with tchalla had to be fully CG sometimes... and it makes me sad... rest in power King Chadwick Boseman🖤🌹

  • @shadyrabbit007
    @shadyrabbit007 6 лет назад +35

    Some of the visuals were bad tho

  • @vivekrserleena
    @vivekrserleena 4 года назад +5

    cgi people: we ended up putting full on cgi replacement.
    audience : yeah we noticed

  • @ojeinoway6968
    @ojeinoway6968 6 лет назад

    The waterfall fight between T'Challa and Killmonger was waaayyyy better than their final fight on the train tracks

  • @ericliuzzz
    @ericliuzzz 6 лет назад

    The difference between good artist and artist not that good is whether they make the artwork come to life.
    Good job!

  • @wagerekairari393
    @wagerekairari393 6 лет назад +36

    Terrible CG Imagery in Black Panther. Took the shine off what was otherwise a fantastic film.

  • @aaronmark3
    @aaronmark3 6 лет назад +71

    The cgi in Black Panther was some of the worst in the MCU. Even phase 1 movies looked better

  • @JoshuaCodes
    @JoshuaCodes 6 лет назад +36

    Why did so much of the CGI look bad though?

    • @bepricki6430
      @bepricki6430 6 лет назад +20

      it looked pretty good until the third act imo

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад +1

      JLCodes it didn't

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo 6 лет назад

      bep ricki no

    • @ramsenarco3920
      @ramsenarco3920 6 лет назад

      JLCodes Somebody said that they wanted to save the money in making visual effects for Infinity War

    • @martinn5626
      @martinn5626 6 лет назад

      JLCodes The Quality is dependent on the time you can reiterate on a project and therefore the budget

  • @madkillahrsa
    @madkillahrsa 4 года назад

    1:26 "..Where they realize that black panther infact has not died" 🕊️😢🙏🏽👑R.I.P

  • @ko_djo
    @ko_djo 6 лет назад

    The visual effects guys are the real MVPs.

  • @nationalsarcasticsociety1312
    @nationalsarcasticsociety1312 6 лет назад +24

    I think a lot of the CGI in this movie is quite bad. Marvel should've give them more time.

  • @jhpk
    @jhpk 5 лет назад +18

    The overall CGI was great I think, just the last battle in some cave with trains were suck.

  • @ShivamSPatel-is-on-fire
    @ShivamSPatel-is-on-fire 6 лет назад +23

    All these people saying everything looked like trash, I bet they couldn't do even a tenth of what the animators did. Second, they say it's all bad, but don't say how they can make it better. What's the point of criticism if you can't provide a reason for it? CGI hating seems like the cool thing to do these days it seems. Any comic book movie needs to have some level of CGI.

    • @Ayoul
      @Ayoul 6 лет назад +10

      1. That's a fallacy. You can criticize without being able to do better.
      2. It's better to just say it's bad or how it was bad than to assume how it should be fixed when they are not professionals.
      This movie had objectively some of the worst CG in recent MCU movies.

    • @juicypear3044
      @juicypear3044 5 лет назад +1

      You no need to be good to criticize lol. You can criticize as a audience as the movie is made for us to watch and we have our opinions...

  • @Racheldivaa
    @Racheldivaa 6 лет назад +1

    Love this!!! Movie production teams should get more recognition like this

  • @effahbright937
    @effahbright937 6 лет назад

    Incredible job....thumbs up❤

  • @hypertendencies_
    @hypertendencies_ 5 лет назад +5

    Remember when Marvel released the clip of the final fight and everyone just assumed the CGI would get better?
    Oh boy where they wrong.

  • @itxchi77
    @itxchi77 6 лет назад +4

    Song in the beginning?

  • @mick4dennis
    @mick4dennis 6 лет назад +17

    So pretty much everything was CGI. Disappointing and lazy. "In this scene we CGI Chadwick again, but kept the eyes" *goes on to also CGI the eyes* -.-

    • @resitagutawa6377
      @resitagutawa6377 6 лет назад

      i think they just color-correct the eyes, like darken it so it fits the suit better. not full on reconstruction CGI it.

    • @mick4dennis
      @mick4dennis 6 лет назад

      Mike's L4IR most of the movie is CGI like a video game, to me that seems lazy. What happened to practical sets and effects. I'm all for a mix of practical and CGI like most movies nowadays, but this movie was very distracting with the amount of bad CGI. Pretty good story I'll give it that.

    • @GrayMimikyu
      @GrayMimikyu 6 лет назад +2

      I agree that CGI is stupid and sometimes not appropriate but to call it lazy is not ideal, have you even taken a computer and tried to animate in it? It's not something you just click one button to do, cgi is hard to learn to cod, to draw, to move computer image is not lazy, and is why movies nowadays is expensive plus computers running these things. I'm a graphic designer and I wish one day I'm able to do something like that even a 3D movie, but even molding in Maya or Blender isn't a one day thing so please don't say cgi is lazy it's not.

    • @mick4dennis
      @mick4dennis 6 лет назад

      DrugStar1136 I don't mean the process of CGI is lazy, the guys who do it are amazing (especially when done well). What I think is lazy is the creative forces such as the director choosing the easy option (CGI) instead of; finding shooting locations, practical sets, real martial arts performance capture.

    • @GrayMimikyu
      @GrayMimikyu 6 лет назад

      +mick4dennis I agree. That's also why I'm barely interested in some top movies nowadays. I get so hype when you get stuff like MadMax where they actually go in the locations to shoot instead of googling rhino images lmao can't believe a multimillionaire company using google reference image lol. 😂 I really laughed when he said that and to think it's a movie about Africans I bet they didn't even go to Africa.

  • @fpereira77
    @fpereira77 6 лет назад

    This is absolutely amazing!

  • @TexelGuy
    @TexelGuy 6 лет назад

    The killmonger suit forming CGI was amazing.

  • @TheVivi13
    @TheVivi13 6 лет назад +7

    Huh, the only CGI that I found really obvious while watching it were the Rhinos. They did a fantastic job by making everything look so real.

  • @devandevan1403
    @devandevan1403 5 лет назад +5

    Now I know exactly who to blame. Thanks wired.

  • @NorwayChallenge
    @NorwayChallenge 5 лет назад +6

    As much as I liked the movie, it depnded way too much on CGI and you can tell that certain parts were'nt given the time or budget to look good.

  • @rahimanagi1878
    @rahimanagi1878 4 года назад

    Takes alot of EFFORT
    👏👏💕💕

  • @SoSo-ci8su
    @SoSo-ci8su 6 лет назад

    8:37 omg I love that chant