U-Turn Orbit Theory -- VINYL RULES!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Steve Gets into the groove!
0:00 U-Turn Orbit Theory turntable
1:00 Theory features and Build Quality
5:54 Listening to the music
11:24 So Steve, what do you really think?
12:26 Audiophiliac Viewer System of the Day!
13:02 Outro
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I've owned four different U-Turn Plus over the last couple of years with different cartridges on each table for comparison. These are excellent, affordable tables. Quiet. Simple. Sound fantastic. The customer service they offer is excellent as well. Hope this company keeps going and going. Cool to see them expand their line.
I'm jealous of that aluminum cueing device! I got their Delrin one on my U-Turn Orbit two years ago and it works fine, but man, solid aluminum would be cool.
My doctor says I need more magnesium so I’m buying this turntable!
I really appreciate the fact that the turntable is designed and built in the US at $1000. I'd be curious to compare this deck to several other $1000 to $1500 turntables.
Steve is the ultimate advocate for the non-millionaire audiophile. He gets to the nitty-gritty of anything he touches on. Very sharp and not fooled by price. I'll never forget the Stereophile interview with a luxury cable "manufacturer", that formerly was the distributor for another very well known manufacturer of similar. Steve hit on every question, that no one in that genre, ever wants to be asked. The things that we all want to know. I will not comment further, and suggest finding said interview, as it's very enlightening. God Bless you Steve. You are a hero to so many.
US made !!!! Very good price !!! Great video Steve. PS: The sound quality of the John Hiatt album is AMAZING.
Absolute Mahvelous Turntable Review. American made to boot! Seemingly a rare commodity in this contemporary marketplace. That alone gives this turntable a special place on “the shelf”. A Very stylish and elegant design unlike many other “industrial looking machines” this one combines engineering with style. 👍🏻
Sounds like U-Turn has matured quite a bit. Good for them! Thanks, Steve.
Yes they are are definitely catching up with all the oil snake in the audio industry.
Well done Steve you called it a cueing device. At last someone has got it right!
Thanks, Steve. Thorough review as always. Thank you for keeping those of us with moderate budgets in mind with your reviews!
Steve, been digging your channel for years. Today’s show was really smooth. Love your format. Have loved many of your interviews. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Nice! A few years ago I was thinking about getting back into vinyl. So I bought an U-Turn Orbit custom with acrylic plater, tone arm lift and put a 2m Blue on it. I still own it but decided I was enjoying vinyl enough to move up to a VPI Prime Scout. I will always have a respect for U-Turn as they got me back on my vinyl journey. As you might see I like to deal with American companies.
How do you like the Prime Scout? How does it compare to the U-Turn?
I love my Orbit and was wondering what the changes were to the new Orbit 2 and this cleared up a TON of my questions. Thanks!!
Great review as always! Been watching for can't tell you how many years and joining your patrion.
Also, the center of the plate on the Orbit Theory is machined in such a way it fits the spindle like a glove. All the older models had simple hole in the center of the plate (19,2 mm in diameter) which had a little play against the spindle. The play shortened the distance between pulley and the plate and affected the speed of the plate (the smaller the distance the faster it turns). This new design is an improvement.
I love your reviews, your delivery, and the old school experience and perspective you bring. I graduated HS in 81. I dreamed about gear. I could not afford the high end stuff, but I hung out at Radio Shack all the time. They had some pretty good stuff too. I wish you would cover vintage gear in addition to new gear and compare. However, this is the golden age of audio in my opinion. I have a lot of Schitt gear and the quality and sound is amazing.
This seems really nice. If I was ever going to get into vinyl I think I would seriously look at this one.
Excellent review!
Man, decks just keep getting better for the price
I liked your video about the Uturn turntable. I have a linear drive turntable which the diamond needle doesn't groove or destroy the pvc on the album like other turntables do! It in perfect line with the grooves in the album.you hear no pops or any noise from a perfectly cleaned older album. I absolutely enjoy the liner drive turntables!
VINYL RULES! - Hey that is my moniker! Love vinyl (I like digital too.)
Good review! I got a U-Turn Orbit Special a couple years ago with the Ortofon 2m Red. Planning on getting a 2m Blue stylus maybe next year. Everyone says it is a significant upgrade. Loved buying a TT made in the U.S.A. Nothing against Fluance or Technics or anyone else, but it felt good. (I have an old Technics in the den).
Still wish more of the "affordable" TTs would adopt a removable headshell design though. As you noted in a previous video it allows you to "roll" cartridges so much easier plus keep a cheap one ready to play used or yard sale vinyl you pick up cheap before trusting it to your more expensive cart.
no get yourself a goldring 1006 much better and cheaper one of the best cartridges under thousand dollars a fraction of the price!
@@hoobsgroove I'll check it out, but one thing the 2m Blue has going for it is that it is a simple 1 minute replacement of the stylus (uses the same cartridge as the 2m Red) so I don't have to fool with installing another cart and adjusting it. But I'll check out the Goldring 1006. Thanks.
The 2m Blue stylus is a very worthwhile and simple upgrade. Big improvement over the red stylus.
@@PaulRCote my 2m Red stylus only has about 250 hours on it, so I'll likely wait till next year, but that upgrade is definitely on my list.
I'd be more up for trying other cartridges as people have recommended if my turntable had a removeable headshell, but it doesn't.
And right now I don't have like an afternoon to devote to installing a new one, using the protractor tool, and doing all the fine adjustments necessary.
Sadly I had a nice old Technics TT that did have a removeable headshell, but the motor died and there is no replacement for it.
Currently I'm rocking an old circa 1980s Technics P-mount in my den and a U-Turn Orbit Custom in my living room. I have a cheap Audio-Technica cart on the Technics which is fine for playing used records I buy.
Totally into this new U-Turn turntable now.
What I dig about Steve is his music selection - fabulous / and brother, dont mean this in a bad way, you remind me of a friend that went to Woostock and never came back completely!😂😂
The review comments on “knob feel”, the use of metal in the cueing arm and the use of real oak or walnut are important and all add to the “analog” nature of this turntable. Playing records is a physical process - you handle a record, turn on the deck, set the arm in place. cue it up, etc.. The feedback in this process is part of the overall experience. This turntable seems to have lots of great user feel and involvement. I like that. Turning a machined, knurled knob is a better experience than reaching below and snapping a plastic switch. Plastic and painted mdf certainly gets the job done (and may be technically “better” depending on the measurement criteria), but ignores the beauty of real materials. This is a nice turntable and I’d love to own one.
ok gotta say this looks great always loved the way they made their tonearms and this one looks different but the same its unique love the solid wood base and finally they put a groove in platter to keep belt from slipping off ,adjustable feet is also a great idea ,made in america fantastic idea ,although not in the market for a TT and if i had heard of u-turn when i needed a TT i would have gone to them ,got a pro-ject debut 3 ,audio technica LP 120 usb this has adjustable feet easy to level ,and several old style TT .s ,the only thing 900.00 dollars for a TT manual ,i don't know got to think about that price
Hey Steve greetings from down under ! would love to here more about gigs you checked out down in the Village circa 60's 70's must have been amazing !
I got a Q. All these fancy acrylic platters look cool but I thought an advantage to a metal platter, like I have, was the inertia of the rotating thick metal platter helped maintain low wow and flutter. My TT is from the 80s. The metal platter could be accused of "ringing" compared to plastic, but they generally have a thick rubber type mat that would dampen any of that, I would think.
I've got one of those with my U-Turn Orbit Special a couple years ago. The acrylic platter is pretty HEAVY so it would have as much inertia as most metal ones (I have an old Technics TT for comparison). I like both, but thought the acrylic just added a nice touch to the Orbit. (I even put some LED strips underneath it for fun)...Like you, I never found any "ringing" with the metal one on the Technics. A plastic or cork mat dampens that just fine I think.
I’ve had a Rega Planar 3 for almost a year with 2M Bronze cart going through a Schiit Mani 2. Very, very nice (though I’ve run into an issue with the Ortofon cartridge recently). I played Get Happy the other day and I couldn’t love that record more, especially now. I made a hand tinted photo of Elvis from one of his shows back in the early 80s that he later signed when I saw him about 20 years later.
Also have a bunch of John Fahey, but all on CD. Bummer.
That U-Turn looks great and would’ve been a prime contender if it was around when I bought the Rega.
It is so good to see a very reasonably priced, well made TT made in the USA ! Too bad Schiit's Sol TT was been discontinued sometime ago due to manufacturing challenges I believe.
I dig you the most, daddy-o!
I always wonder when someone uses the description, "massive sound stage". Seldom do studio recordings exist in a huge area. Typically they're small acoustically treated rooms which in no way imitate a live performance. They're designed to allow the recording to be an accurate representation of the instrument and vocals. Often times, the vocals, at least the backup is performed and recorded in a booth, also specifically designed to pick up the nuances of the vocalist, while eliminating outside noises.
Live performances do get a lot of room or open area ambiance , but often don't sound as good because there are so many areas of acoustical interference. To that end, it's fitting to ascribe, "massive sound stage", otherwise it's a general statement that says little about how it was recorded, just how we perceive it while listening.
Yeah they mix it to have a good sound stage after they get the accurate recording. A lot of times they are just recording one track at a time and throwing them together in a DAW. They want it to sound natural, not like a recording studio
I think that I would prefer the Marantz TT-15 Acrylic Turntable with the 1000 dollar Clear Audio Virtuoso Cartridge for 700 more. My U-turn Special with a Orto Blue was 549 and it does sound great but I would prefer an upgrade over the Blue for a grand!
If Steve and the general reviews are so great for this turntable, I would buy it with my eyes closed. I was looking for it on Crutchfield but didn’t see it. I will definetely keep it in my wish list… perhaps for xmas..
Comes out tomorrow!
I thought U-Turn only sold direct?
Thank you Steve for a nod to a fine table made right here in Massachusetts! I ordered the Orbit Custom in White with M2 Blue. Wonderful / young little company that get's it right for a great price! Great support when you have questions too!
And THAT, is from a long time Rega RP-6 owner (O:
I had the Rega P10 actually and the Apheta3 cartridge died in less than 30 days. Reluctantly, I returned it after the dealer questioned my integrity.. :(
@@ptg01 Thanks for adding your Rega experience. I will tell you, they are not perfect! First thing I changed out was the sub-platter! Brand new out of the box, WOBBLE! Had to go, hello Grove Tracer. Exact 2 cartridge lost LEFT channel after a short bit of use.
Rega covered it, sent a new one thanks to negotiations via Music Direct. For the hang of it, decided all these years later to see what UTurn was all about. After I compared the two tables side by side. I found the Exact 2 cart to be lacking stereo width AND clarity. AND, a left channel that was weak!! Here we go again.
So, since I fell in love with the M2 Blue on my new UTurn, I took my Rega to my local dealer last month, and had them mount an M2 Blue. The Rega came with spacers which was a BIG surprise!, so the cart went right on and now, the two tables sound the same.
In relation to your comment, there is my dealing with my beloved Red RP-6 for you (O:
@@garysmith8455 So sad to see such highly regarded, (P3, P6, P8, P10 etc) and at times stratospherely priced TT's so problematic. So interesting to hear your experience that the Ortofon 2MBlue on either table sounds the same to you. I've always thought cartridges makes the BIGGEST difference $ for $... I love the sound of the Apheta3 on the P10 but left channel also died in less than 30 days (less than 10 hours of play). This really should not happen and treatment I got from dealer broke the deal. I am very sad to get away from Rega amidst all its hype. Heck, I even have Roy Gandy's Vibration Measuring Machine book !
@@ptg01 Yes, I agree, I have always felt that if you put a great cartridge (and you don't have to spend the huge $$$). Just spin it quietly, with decent speed specs and away you go.
ONE MORE THING. I noted also that as you get closer to the last tracks on an LP, the Exact 2 would actually begin to PICK UP the frequency of the drive motor under the platter!! No one talks about that, but it is there. The UTurn with it's motor mounted outside the platter doesn't suffer from this. Yet, a 2K Rega does. I just live with it )O:
@@garysmith8455 Oh man... joys of the analog / mechanical world...
John Hiatt and Fahey, and Frahm. You have my atention....
U-Turn to mid-fi audio. Looks good!
Rega has spacers for vertical adjustment, in differences thickness (mm). So it is possible to fit around with different cartridges on a Rega deck!
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I wanted to be able to adjust my Rega arm on my Thorens TD-150MKII that Vinyl Nirvana tweaked. I had to do it under the arm inside the plinth. Not the easiest to adjust, but at least I can.
Thanks for a great review. However, I was distracted a bit by David Lynch’s masterpiece eraserhead in the background. Haha.
Herbie Mann - that guy rocks - love my Herbie Mann LPs
$1,000 range is very very competitive for turntables... I would want adjustable VTA
I'm old enough to remember using turntables back in the late 70s . I also remember the direct drive turntables being considered better than belt drive. This being the case why is this turntable being belt driven considered a good turntable?? I personally have a technics SL-1800 Direct Drive Turntable and it has a quarts reader on the turntable that you can view that guarantees the platter is spinning at the exact speed needed. I just don't see this being an option on newly manufactured turntables today. In my opinion an older turntable from the 70s are 8os will not only be cheaper financially but better quality as well.
Would be interested to see how one of the newer Fluance turntables compare.
Now UTurn just needs to come out with a stacker and fully automatic model.
John Hiatt Bring the Family rocks ! The original version of Thing Called Love. It smokes Bonnie Raitt's version.
Hi Steve, Thanks for the great review. Would you recommend this over the Pro-Ject X1 or Debut Carbon Pro, both offered at the same price right now?
Good stuff cost good money even the cheaper good stuff cost good money
Good video as usual. Again low-midfi, midfi, is the working man’s sweet spot.
Our so-called "midfi" today is better than the "high fi" of 30 years ago, so there is that to consider...and the prices allowing for inflation over those years are relatively amazing.
Hey Steve, I have 2 current U-Turn Orbits...one bought in their first year, and newer one thats updated with the Ortofon Blue. (I have a Shiit Mani external amp). They are great turntables, but my biggest problem seemed to be low hum when playing at high levels, or quieter music pieces. How big of an upgrade is this new motor and is it definably quieter?
Steve, from what I've read about the Rega turntables, you can adjust the VTA, but it is done with shims, so IIRC, you have to take the arm off.
Steve, you need to get the excellent 2x45rpm version of 'Get Happy', that Columbia pressing you're still using is sonically a pale ghost of what's on the master tape.
Steve, as far as build quality and features are concerned can you justify this over the SL-100C Technics now offers in the US market? For the same price you get that Technics coreless direct drive motor, removable headshell for easier cart swap, adjustable VTA, and an auto lift feature. I can see how the Ortofon Blue, acrylic plinth, adjustable feet, and the built-in preamp for only +$70 are great offerings, but if I'm someone who's new to records with $1k budget I gotta go the Technics all the way.
im currently collecting herbie mann ,have about 6 so far ,mani2 is great i have one running an at mc ,cant fault it ....
So much turntable for so little money! This company knows how to do things the right way seeming to look back on the history of the turntable, arm, cartridge synergy with an approach that I have not seen before.
While you were hanging out at the Village Gate, I was at the Five Spot every Friday night and then moved around to the Village Vanguard, Sweet Basil, Fat Tuesday’s, The Blue Note and others that don’t come to mind at the moment.
I’m sure you did the same Steve.
Good Day Sir Guttenberg, Do own a Rega rp6, the tone-arm is in hight adjustable
how would this compare to FLuance rt85N? having a hard time finding speakers at the 500cad mark
Ive had my Denon DP-45F for several decades, and Im running a Denon 103 MC Cartridge with it. I do like the sound of it, but have not done any side by side comparisons. Would it have any chance of sounding as good as any newer turntable with the latest technology?
A newer turntable will definitely sound different than what you have, but you might not like the difference.
Ok good recommendation
I saw Hiatt w Little Village at the Beacon
This review is making me pine for a turntable that is more user friendly and easy to operate. I have a Marantz TT-15 turntable and everything about it is a pain. Turning it on requires reaching behind the motor, changing speeds requires manually putting the belt on a different grove in the pulley, the tonearm weight turns on a flimsy rubber washer, the stylus lifter is a thin piece of metal.... and on and on. Oh and so far, doesn't sound that great either :). So yes, usability matters.
Was glad to see U-Turn finally have one that doesn't require messing with (and maybe accidentally stretching) the belt to change speeds. A definite improvement for them.
Is this the best bang for your back at the moment for a turntable at $1,000? I have a U-Turn Plus and would love to know how the Theory compares to other turntables in the same price range!
I'm halfway through, so maybe I'll get an answer, but I am curious how much better this thing might sound than the U-turn custom I have with the blue ortofon upgrade, acrylic platter and such. I'm happy with it, but tempted to sell it and try this one, but not sure it will be substantially better sound wise.
Thinking of pulling the trigger on your current table haha. You like it so far?
@@Funkbutterfly yeah. I mean. I do. I'm not sure how much better you'll do in the price range. But, take my opinion w a grain of salt, cause I'm a little new to trying to have decent players. So I haven't A/B compared against much other than the cheaper ones I inherited or tried out from thrift stores. This is better though. And you do wanna try to pick the cartridge you like but if you wanna save money you can start with a red and upgrade later like I did... but that just made me wish I'd paid more and put the blue on right away.
Mine did make a little more noise than I wanted to... BUT another U-Turn advantage is excellent customer service and troubleshooting. So eventually they got it dialed in where I thougt it was quieter. Anyway, I do like it and listen to it a decent amount. Had I not gotten this prob would've tried Rega or Fluance. But again...my opinion is definitely that of a noobie.
Pity we can't get this in the UK!
vinyl!
cause mechanical engravings of someone else's DAC makes perfect sense.
just like producing Kodak slides out from your digital iphone, then claim they are truer to the source.
majority of vinyl been through digital processing since the mid 1980's (ask about the cutter's computer delay line)
So Steve you should review the Fender guitar new Turntable price is about 3,500$
I'm not a vinyl aficionado. It's been a long time. But I remember when my father bought a good turntable in the late 80s, and at that time a linear-tracking tonearm was the big improvement. Now it seems like decent turntables all have the swivel tonearm. Has linear-tracking been abandoned? Did advancements in design obviate the advantages of linear-tracking so that it's not needed anymore? Thanks.
Yes and no, advances in standard tone arms did sort of make it obsolete but to be honest with you linear tracking was kind of a fad and it really only caught on in the high end where some German companies believe it's the best thing ever. I kind of feel the main reason it didn't catch on was because of most of the companies making it principally technics and the like used p-mount style cartridges which were fine but not many cartridge manufacturers adopted the standard. so it kind of left you with out any cartridge options other than what technic sold, but overall I've had a few of the '80s style turntables that were meant to sort of fit in a cabinet kind of like the drawer loading style and they're fine and they all feature linear tracking arms just because of the way they're designed. but I think it's also a complexity thing as well like it's way more complicated and to hit a certain price point and make the thing reliable was something maybe they were unable to do over time. like go on eBay and look up '80s linear tracking turntables and I almost bet you 90% of them that you find will have problems with them.
Former record store owner here and I can answer this:
The guide mechanism that the linear arm slid across on vintage linear tracking TT's introduced a lot of mistracking and distortion of its own.
They also had a high mechanical-failure rate, forcing you to buy a new turntable every few years!
Your best bet on a modern deck is a 12" radial-tracking arm (to get the lowest possible tracking error), instead of the usual 9" - 10.5" radial arms.
@@thomosburn8740 Right Great answer but let me ask where is one supposed to get for $1,000 a ready to go turntable with a 12-in tonearm?
I mean to add further to your comment my personal favorite under a thousand turntable and I've had a few of them still remains the planar one. I mean you can get the two and if you're willing to buy used you can buy the three. But the planar one really is the sweet spot for great sound from a turntable under a thousand bucks. Above that I think it kind of splits in my opinion, on the one hand you have the technics which is a great turntable and you have what I have now is clear audio.
@@thomosburn8740 I own a 44 year old Revox B790, linatrack TT, with a tonearm length of 1.75 inches, still works and has never mistracked.
@@scottwolf8633 size doesn't matter then 😂
Looks OK. For $200 more you can get a Technics 1500. A much more substantial turntable, heavy, built like a tank, better vibration resistant, adjustable VTA, detatchable headshell makes cartridge swapping a breeze. Will last a lifetime. Bought a 1210 GR 6 months ago, very happy w/ it!
I'm not going to say I disagree with you however I will say that any turntable can offer longevity. And while direct drive does offer its pros I have personally always found the sound a little artificial compared to belt drive. Now of course we're splitting hairs and in your defense the technics is a very well made turntable no doubt about it but as I said any turntable can offer longevity of use depending on how it's cared for. And I assume most people that will buy a technic's turntable won't be utilizing it's rugged design as you so imply. It's sort of like a soccer mom buying a big old H1 Hummer, I mean yes the thing is fantastic and extremely well built overbuilt in fact, I mean it's designed to withstand gunfire and has run-flat tire system Plus it has hooks on the hood and on the body so you can air lift this thing in via helicopter. But how many soccer moms do you know that would utilize any of these features.
Only $200.00, that's all? Not everyone can just shell out the extra cash. I can now, but I remember the time that I couldn't. But hey, it's only 💰💰💰💰.
@@LA-db9xj well you know you can't take it with you
@@Audiorevue I'm actually speaking about those that enjoy the hobby as we do. But may not be in a place to "just" spend another $200.00. Afterall, you have to have it in the first place. In order not to leave it behind! I had to work to be in the position I'm in now. Maybe you didn't!!
Oh no most definitely, as I fell from my mother's golden teet into boundless streams of cash I found myself falling through evermore expensive habitation and stereo systems. I mean as I said the limits of my wealth are immeasurable, I have more money than most people could ever imagine and I use that money to buy expensive stereo equipment.
Let's see, I've got a 3 million Hi-Fi on my 80 ft yacht and I have a $10 million high-fi within each of my 15 mansions. I mean I make no apologies for being fabulously wealthy and tremendously in good taste but to say that I have money to burn well would be an understatement
What do you think about Balanced signal turntables?
are the dust cover hinges new?
Howdy..what are the isolation devices under the cutting board?
30 year old sorbothane pucks
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac thanks! I might have a set stowed away.
Might be first.
Thanks for the video ....
Since Pluto is no longer a planet,
Marketing people
have an opportunity .....
any idea with Turn wall?
It's not that I hate my 1987 vintage $450 USD (1980's) Cambridge Audio phono, but I don't feel compelled to fire it up for a listening session like I do with my Pro-Ject CD player. Not even after a professional cleanup-setup a few years ago. Maybe this could be "the turntable for me" and my 300 LPs?
Isn’t a solid piece of wood prone to warping over time?
Only under poor storage conditions of moisture and humidity. Otherwise it should be fine 👍
I am pretty torn between this and the technics 1500c. Anyone want to set me straight?
Am I correct that u-turn does not have a EU retailer?
Maybe review the audiolab 6000A it's a good sounding amp for under a 1000
I WONDER: How well this Turntable does compared to Less costing $500 to $1000 dollar DJ Tables such as Audio Technica - Pioneer - and few other well-known brands? I bought the Audio Technica LP140 and I've been happy with it for the last 2 months.
.... On the other hand my new Vinyl Freak friends on RUclips kind of look down their nose at me for that purchase.
.... Steve, I know recently you fell in love with a NON-Traditional turntable (Technic 1200G.) So, maybe Steve you might have a different opinion of Value between the non-Traditional Turntables and those tables like U-Turn Orbit made more with traditional Audiophile engineering?
..... What do you think? - m.
The LP140 is a solid choice and you have the benefit of a removable headshell. Much to be said for that. It allows you to have at least two. Maybe one with a cheap cartridge on it for testing used and thrift store vinyl purchases before trusting your more expensive cartridge to them. Audio Technica does a very good job at their price points. Hold your head up!
What's better belt or direct drive? haha
has the belt a standard size?
that arm must be an alloy of Magnesium
Just a quick correction on VTA adjustment capabilities of Rega tone arms, there is a solution available for purchase, but it is a PITA. You can buy these (what appears to be) plastic rings of varying thicknesses that allows height adjustment of the tonearm. Getting it set up requires the removal of the tonearm (on most) to add the ring(s). "No fun, but it works".
IMHO, it's most hassle than it's worth.
2m bronze would be great
Vinyl does a lot of things, like popping and warping, but it definitely does not rule any more than a DC-3 rules the skies.
What the hell is that suppose to mean!? lol
I'd still buy an old 1210 M5G. Which is what I have. But I did pay a lot less than what they are going for currently. Still, I'd say a much superior table than the Orbit, or cheap Pro-jects, Regas and the like. This Orbit appears to be a bit of Rega knock-off. $1000 is quite too much a chunk of change for this thing. At $550-600 maybe they have something.
So, basically, U-Turn has entered the entry level HiFi market. Upscaled its best turntable to the $1K realm. Certainly an interesting move. But the jury is out till we see how this sells. Who is the market for this. U-Turn started off as a maker that targeted the first time buyer and some of the youthful hipsters getting into the hobby. Fluance's market was somewhat the same. But U-Turn had more and hipper colors, etc. Will people be willing to pay two or more fold, for what is obviously a better player, but beginning to get a little pricey? Time will tell. As for me, I'm really not a TT jockey. I have a couple of OLD vintage tables around here with original Shure carts that don't get as much play as perhaps they should. I spend much more time with my digital sources.
I have to wonder how much of your enjoyment of the Orbit Theory was attributable to the Ortofon 2M Blue. I have one on a Rega RP1 turntable, and the 2M Blue definitely punches above it's weight. It's a lively and detailed cartridge, it's only drawback being a little high on surface noise. I'm amazed Fluance sells the RT85 with a 2M Blue for $499.
not as good as the goldring 1006 that is a much superior cartridge especially with soundstage and clarity and is a little bit cheaper, give it a go you'd be happily surprised.
Does someone make a gizmo that can be put on this TT so that one can adjust the arm height?
I love U-Turn for their great customer service and mostly US made products but this one seems like a hard sell. I feel like for this price range it should feature a way to adjust VTA and not having a Grado cartridge seems like a miss also.
Whatever became of Bruce Thomas?
It has a really nice knob.
I don't see how this is any better than a Project debut carbon, and it's way more expensive
Looks good👍 Could not stand the old U-Turns.... The Silver Tonearm always looked like it should be on a Crosley.... also that logo on the left looked like a sign you on the side of the road driving thru the country🤔🤔 Thumbs up U-Turn... looks great....
Best Buy discontinued the Pro-Ject Carbon . . . $99.00
Just sayin' . . .
Solid wood has it's disadvantages. Especially at the thickness used for turntables. Reactive to humidity and temperature, can warp, expands and contracts more than man made substrates. I have the original Orbit and really dislike the hum from the AC motor. Doesn't come through while playing, but just annoys me. I would have to hear the Theory to hear how less the noise is. You also have to be careful with the dust lids. Too aggressive opening and it will come off the base.
wkwkwkwk any idea with Turn wall?...
John Hiatt's record after Bring The Family was better. 🙂
I'm happy to see U Turn design something more substantial, but I absolutely despise the bright sounding 2M Blue (Plus the IGD of the whole 2M series is untamable as far as I can tell). Why every OEM is obsessed with the 2M line, I don't get it. The Audio Technica VM520EB costs less, tracks and sounds better. If you really wanted to go all US, put a Grado Red 3 on it.
i have an orbit plus with a grado black on it for the past couple years. the igd is driving me insane. i was about to buy a 2m blue or bronze just to get rid of igd (or just upgrade to this theory) but after seeing this comment, i'm hesitant lol. i'll look into the AT.
ended up grabbing an AT vm540ml. did some research against 2m's and found one at a local shop. thanks!
@@meeee32156 I think you will enjoy that microline. I’m just not a fan of the 2M line and it’s cornering the OEM stock option market. They seem to be included with everything.
@@CliffForster got it all setup and listened through some records. The igd on the last couple tracks on albums are gone. Vocals are so much more clear. Maybe less bassy than the grado black, but just turned my sub up a little. Thanks! Super happy with the purchase. Can focus on the music now instead of thinking how awful the last couple songs are per side haha
@@meeee32156 I actually have a VM95ML that I used for awhile, and despite heaving it's harder to properly calibrate for a microline, I found it easier to set up, more forgiving, and as you noticed, it tracks the inner grove much better. My current turntable is an Audio Technica LP7. It's really great value, I do wish I had a US made table though.
It looks okay but I think you can do a lot better in this price range especially if you wait for a good sale.
For this price, MoFi StudioDeck plus is better. Quality and has adjustable VTA. I enjoy mine.
nice looking turntable. Over priced and belt drive. I prefer direct drive. And for the love of god, The prices for Hi Fi equipment is totally outrageous...
Over the years, I’ve found myself to dislike anything without a removable headshell personally.
So many cuts and edits in this, was a bit jarring!
Are you the actor from Police Academy?