Can you imagine how the rider's felt that bought the first version. Major improvements including 5 more hp and suspension upgrades. I really enjoy the videos that you post !!
I know how it felt, I was one of those guy's. And then I rode a buddies YZ with White Brothers suspension and learned about good handling. Double whammy. I liked my C model though, it was fast.
The ‘78 RM is one of my favorite classic bike models ever. Rode a ‘77 RM100 and a ‘78 RM125. The ‘78 was a big step up. 4:19 I had a TM125 too. It was my first bike.
The grass tracks looked so beautifull with all those bright colours on the track all the 1970s bikes had it japanese and european it was spectacular those days every bike did its job at making great competion under the yellow sun
I remember back in 75 my brother bought a new Canam 125 tnt. It was an amazing bike for it's time! We were all in awe of it's power and how capable it was off road, but hen my buddy picked up a slightly used RM 125. Man that bike was so fast and the suspension was amazing! I've been a big fan of Suzuki and it's RM's ever since.I sure hope Suzuki can revamp and get competitive in the motocross market again. Motocross just wouldn't be the same without them. Thanks again Tony for all your time and effort to bring these amazing videos to us!
Ricky Carmichael left and joined Triumph to be involved with their new MX and Enduro bikes. Triumph is big on retro bikes, it'd be cool if they made their Dirtbikes look retro like this 78 Suzuki!
So the reason Suzuki produced 2 '78 RM250s was that they didn't have the production capacity to fully outfit the production run on the RM250C with all the same updates that the RM400C and RM125C c got. Once they caught up on the new plastics, swing arms, etc... and finalized the 250cc engine updates, they brought the RM250C2 to market. So the RM250C2 wasn't a leading bike for '79 but a catch up on the '78 model.
I own a few Vintage suzuki rm250c2 they are one of my favorite bikes. I also race one in a champion flat track flame and can a test that with some “minor” work this is a weapon in vintage racing.
Baught one brand new off the show room floor in "78", $2600. A set of fox air shox, $300. Had the best times of my life on that bike, wish I still had it.
I bought one new but half price in '79. As a beginner I found it a bit of a handful as it had its power up the rev range and it cornered better under hard power. Friends who were fast rode it and loved it. I should have bought a Maico as they suited UK farm track courses much better (I think). I did ride a friends KX250A4 and also a '78 Red rocket and got on better with both. In '81 I rode a Maico 250 when I was living in Berlin. Thought it was amazing in comparison although the RM did go in a straight line.
I started riding in 1978 at age 12. I don't remember the RM250 but the 1978 and 1979 RM125's were hot and I would see them while riding all the time, but in that time period it was the CR250R that was the motocross bike to have.
I was 12 in 78’ too, I rode IT’s from then till 86’ the last year they were made. I’d sure like to feel as good as I did then, 55 is way rougher than I thought it would be
@@deborahchesser7375 I am good at math but made a mistake here because I am 57 now, duh that made me 14 in 1978. I think I need to say a DeCoster and a couple of Hannah’s😂😂😂
I have owned, built all of the 76-78.5 Suzuki RM250- I built many of these for vintage racing in the from 2004-2013- The real difference between the 77 to 78 250--PIPE- long head pipe, lengthened silencer-it mellowed out the power-the 78 was a better bike-but the way the power came on- made it a mid level-then siqn off.
Cool coverage, Tony. But I had to thumb down because of Mathes at the opening. He's like the dark cloud of the industry, raining down toxic negativity. Yuck! I couldn't even watch the video at first. I backed out, immediately. But then I came back in, on mute and fast forwarded past him to get through it.
I can be negative because I see a lot of negativity in our sport today, and our society. But the Mathis show is just play stupid IMO, the Bevis and Butthead of the industry, (or top competitors for that title). After listening to his HS mentality, I would have to say Kelly Smith would have had a better shot at a title if he had an adult mentality for a mechanic. Tony does a great job with his channel, with fantastic bike history. But I don't know why he does not hook up with the usually excellent Whiskey Throttle Show. When historians look back at this sport, TWS and this channel will be libraries of valid information for all who want to know the best of the sport. The rest of them, Mathis will have eating their own buggers for a cerebral energy snack.
In 78 I was riding a 1974 Husky 450 Desert Master. A friend bought a 1978 Husky 380?MX. Had that long suspension stuff... I sat on that thing in 1978 and gee whiz it was tall. I rode it and wondered about the future......... Well, until c.1976-1977 everything was 6"/4".... In 1997 I owned a weird transition year 1978 Maico 250. It had something like 8/6 suspension but was quickly replaced with something like 10/8? and it had low hp.
I purchased a brand new off the showroom floor of that same bike in 1978 and blew a hole in the engine case trail riding up a sand dune 6 months after I purchased it. A riding buddy bought the 1978 Honda CR250R that same year and after riding his bike I realized I had made a serious mistake with the Suzuki. I had the case fixed on the RM and sold it as soon as I could which afforded the purchase of a brand new 1980 YZ465, second mistake I made in 2 years. At 70 years old and a dozen dirt bikes behind me I now ride a KTM, end of story, (I know, I’m kinda slow).
@@evo5349 The 465 couldn’t even come close to keeping up with the buddies 1978 CR250 on the trail or the track (not that we were pro riders). Stock suspension was harsh front and rear and it wouldn’t turn worth a darn. The engine was difficult to start although it always started eventually (same with a YZ490 I had also). Too this day I think the ‘78 CR would still be competitive, it was the best of the best at that time. I now ride trail only on a KTM 300 and this thing is the best for turning, starting, and suspension, although my grandson has a YZ250fx that is excellent on the trails and the suspension is sublime.
Way off topic... but boy and I glad we can scratch out those Raymour and Flanigan commercials after 4 or 5 seconds... They have to be some of the most vomit provoking cringe-fests any ad agency has ever pooped out.
Just built this model for vintage Mx racing for my 15 year old son. He’s done great on his 78 Rm125c. I think he’ll like the 250C2
Can you imagine how the rider's felt that bought the first version. Major improvements including 5 more hp and suspension upgrades. I really enjoy the videos that you post !!
I know how it felt, I was one of those guy's.
And then I rode a buddies YZ with White Brothers suspension and learned about good handling.
Double whammy.
I liked my C model though, it was fast.
The ‘78 RM is one of my favorite classic bike models ever. Rode a ‘77 RM100 and a ‘78 RM125. The ‘78 was a big step up. 4:19 I had a TM125 too. It was my first bike.
The grass tracks looked so beautifull with all those bright colours on the track all the 1970s bikes had it japanese and european it was spectacular those days every bike did its job at making great competion under the yellow sun
Thanks Tony
I remember when this bike came out. It was awesome.
I remember back in 75 my brother bought a new Canam 125 tnt. It was an amazing bike for it's time! We were all in awe of it's power and how capable it was off road, but hen my buddy picked up a slightly used RM 125. Man that bike was so fast and the suspension was amazing! I've been a big fan of Suzuki and it's RM's ever since.I sure hope Suzuki can revamp and get competitive in the motocross market again. Motocross just wouldn't be the same without them. Thanks again Tony for all your time and effort to bring these amazing videos to us!
Suzuki made the mistake of letting Rodger leave twice,everywhere he goes great bikes follow
Ricky Carmichael left and joined Triumph to be involved with their new MX and Enduro bikes. Triumph is big on retro bikes, it'd be cool if they made their Dirtbikes look retro like this 78 Suzuki!
@@Justen1980 or made a dirtbike that can be ridden while sitting down... for us old farts.....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
So the reason Suzuki produced 2 '78 RM250s was that they didn't have the production capacity to fully outfit the production run on the RM250C with all the same updates that the RM400C and RM125C c got. Once they caught up on the new plastics, swing arms, etc... and finalized the 250cc engine updates, they brought the RM250C2 to market. So the RM250C2 wasn't a leading bike for '79 but a catch up on the '78 model.
I own a few Vintage suzuki rm250c2 they are one of my favorite bikes. I also race one in a champion flat track flame and can a test that with some “minor” work this is a weapon in vintage racing.
Great video Tony ! Love your work !!!
Thanks 👍
Great History! Love the channel
Baught one brand new off the show room floor in "78", $2600. A set of fox air shox, $300. Had the best times of my life on that bike, wish I still had it.
you over payed by about $1200.00 ......i hope it was $1600
A nice 1977 250 rm model a great twin shocker a great sounding bike that gave lots of fun competion
Great work Tony.
Thanks 👍
Fantastic channel. Keep up the great work your doing!
I bought one new but half price in '79. As a beginner I found it a bit of a handful as it had its power up the rev range and it cornered better under hard power. Friends who were fast rode it and loved it. I should have bought a Maico as they suited UK farm track courses much better (I think). I did ride a friends KX250A4 and also a '78 Red rocket and got on better with both. In '81 I rode a Maico 250 when I was living in Berlin. Thought it was amazing in comparison although the RM did go in a straight line.
I started riding in 1978 at age 12. I don't remember the RM250 but the 1978 and 1979 RM125's were hot and I would see them while riding all the time, but in that time period it was the CR250R that was the motocross bike to have.
I was 12 in 78’ too, I rode IT’s from then till 86’ the last year they were made. I’d sure like to feel as good as I did then, 55 is way rougher than I thought it would be
@@deborahchesser7375 I am good at math but made a mistake here because I am 57 now, duh that made me 14 in 1978. I think I need to say a DeCoster and a couple of Hannah’s😂😂😂
I have the 125 of this year. Still trying to find parts though
I have owned, built all of the 76-78.5 Suzuki RM250- I built many of these for vintage racing in the from 2004-2013- The real difference between the 77 to 78 250--PIPE- long head pipe, lengthened silencer-it mellowed out the power-the 78 was a better bike-but the way the power came on- made it a mid level-then siqn off.
Cool coverage, Tony.
But I had to thumb down because of Mathes at the opening. He's like the dark cloud of the industry, raining down toxic negativity. Yuck!
I couldn't even watch the video at first. I backed out, immediately. But then I came back in, on mute and fast forwarded past him to get through it.
I can be negative because I see a lot of negativity in our sport today, and our society. But the Mathis show is just play stupid IMO, the Bevis and Butthead of the industry, (or top competitors for that title). After listening to his HS mentality, I would have to say Kelly Smith would have had a better shot at a title if he had an adult mentality for a mechanic. Tony does a great job with his channel, with fantastic bike history. But I don't know why he does not hook up with the usually excellent Whiskey Throttle Show. When historians look back at this sport, TWS and this channel will be libraries of valid information for all who want to know the best of the sport. The rest of them, Mathis will have eating their own buggers for a cerebral energy snack.
In 78 I was riding a 1974 Husky 450 Desert Master. A friend bought a 1978 Husky 380?MX. Had that long suspension stuff... I sat on that thing in 1978 and gee whiz it was tall. I rode it and wondered about the future......... Well, until c.1976-1977 everything was 6"/4".... In 1997 I owned a weird transition year 1978 Maico 250. It had something like 8/6 suspension but was quickly replaced with something like 10/8? and it had low hp.
Wonder if Suzuki will do any new bikes or leave the market?
My friend found one of these on the side of the road and we cleaned it up and I bought it off him for 500 today
I purchased a brand new off the showroom floor of that same bike in 1978 and blew a hole in the engine case trail riding up a sand dune 6 months after I purchased it. A riding buddy bought the 1978 Honda CR250R that same year and after riding his bike I realized I had made a serious mistake with the Suzuki. I had the case fixed on the RM and sold it as soon as I could which afforded the purchase of a brand new 1980 YZ465, second mistake I made in 2 years. At 70 years old and a dozen dirt bikes behind me I now ride a KTM, end of story, (I know, I’m kinda slow).
Fun is the thing, what was wrong with the 1980 Yamaha 465.
@@evo5349 The 465 couldn’t even come close to keeping up with the buddies 1978 CR250 on the trail or the track (not that we were pro riders). Stock suspension was harsh front and rear and it wouldn’t turn worth a darn. The engine was difficult to start although it always started eventually (same with a YZ490 I had also). Too this day I think the ‘78 CR would still be competitive, it was the best of the best at that time. I now ride trail only on a KTM 300 and this thing is the best for turning, starting, and suspension, although my grandson has a YZ250fx that is excellent on the trails and the suspension is sublime.
the 1978 cr250 was typical of most cr's from '78 thru '99 great bikes with CRAP suspension
Clearly a case of operator error , the YZ465 and RM250C2 were much better bikes than the over rated '78 cr250
Honda’s production bikes were not desirable at all until the early 1980’s
Gosh. How do you explain the 1979 RM fender work?
Drugs...had to be drugs
Tony, are you the dirtbike kid?
Lol I wish
Way off topic... but boy and I glad we can scratch out those Raymour and Flanigan commercials after 4 or 5 seconds... They have to be some of the most vomit provoking cringe-fests any ad agency has ever pooped out.
man i really wish your shits were a little cheaper i could get a few,,,,
the 78 honda dusted that bike.
I like how the green number plates that suited the yellow 250 rm the green for 250 like the grass tracks