Cult German sci fi
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2015
- I take a look at a 1960s TV German TV series that had lofty ambitions, but not the budget to match: "Raumpatrouille" (translated into English as "Space Patrol") ran for only seven episodes, but made a big impact.
Clips are from the first two episodes.
IMDb entry: www.imdb.com/title/tt0061289/
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"for some reason, they speak german"
well, for "some reason" in every other sci fi cartoon they speak english and nobody bats an eye
"for some reason" we speak english
+Thomi It's not English. It's Galactic Standard.
not in all of them
+Lord Rob yes, but thats because it is one of the biggest languages on earth (maybe in the future we will speak arabic or mandarin chinese). I Think that Thomi was more pointing to the fakt that alien races you find in scifi all also speak englisch. Ok, in Stargate Universe and some SciFi attack movies they dont, but most SciFi shows have aliens that speak fluent english on their first ever encounter.
DreaMeRHoLic and maybe the same applies to sci fi movies. Maybe for sime reason german became a world wide language in that sci fi series
I wish, German TV-Producers would produce a German Sci-Fi series, instead of pumping out one crime thriller series after another.
maybe if they would finally cancel the berg doktor or sum other stuff, enough space for a sci fi series
especially with our Krimis having lost all of the "Thriller" over the last decades, and removing all tension by casting their murderer from a pool of the same 5 actors / actresses every time.
They did Ijon Tichy and it's actually quite good.
Not a german IP, but production
@@manadoesstuff483 But they would lack the money brought by berg doktor and similar.
@@reinhard8053 which is sad. I would prefer so much a continuation of Raumpatrouille Orion maybe even a sequel or something than most of the current Öffentlich Rechtliches Fernseh stuff
I am dutch. As a kid I was fascinated by Raumpatrouille. The enemy was so mysterious. I loved the spaceships and the music score too.
Was this show televised in the Netherlands?
@@Myrtone No, when I was young we had 2 Dutch tv channels, and 4 German channels, if I remember correctly, and we lived close to the German border. Because of that, even as a 4-year-old, I understood German like it was my mother tongue.
@@MyrtoneIt was on Dutch television in 1967 by the AVRO. Everyone in the Netherlands could see it. I was very young then, I had never seen anything like it, and the music was so impressive. Better than Star Trek..
Raumschiff Orion will never be forgotten.^-^
They did an episode on male/female leadership and the relationship to a former Earth colony; an episode on failing robots of Earth design; and an episode on a Earth penal colony taken over by inmates setting a trap to take the ship as well. That episode still has one of the best scary TV torture scenes that can be watched by the whole family, a remarkable feat. Three of the seven episodes had no aliens in it. The series was about more than just an alien race trying to take over Earth.
They had an outstanding episode with a visit to a planet where the roles of males and females were reversed. Pretty fictional for the late 60s.
And to mention: Peter Thomas Sound Orchester doing the soundtrack, which was a really crazy mix of jazz, r'n'r/r'b/pop and electronic music.
Totally.
I love the look of *Raumpatrouille,* especially the bridge of the *Orion.* The fact that the set designers were able to make it look that good with essentially zero money astounds me
The chief set designer (Rolf Zehetbauer) later won an oscar for "Cabaret".
But this type of set design is not lost in the future. On Seaquest DSV a com unit at a wall was just a cable telephone without the cable unit and upside down. And for the Dune miniseries they used some USB hub on the destille suits as some futuristic device.
Nevermind the use of Alka Seltzer to create bubbles for liftoff of the spaceships. I loved that show and have it on DVD. "Rücksturz zur Erde!"
A very competent short review of "Raumpatrouille! Excellent.
Raumpatrouille! Definitiv sehenswert.
In "Tamara" war ich sowas von verknallt... - ...aber auch in Lydia, vllt. noch mehr... ;-)
Ich bekomme immer wieder Gänsehaut, wenn ich die Orion fliegen sehe.
The far future: Mankind colonized the bottom of the sea and space. The world is unified. The berlin airport is still not complete. ;)
Thank you. I am always on the lookout of non-English sci-fi.
as we speak of german oddities, how about an episode about "dinner for one".
+Jens Koch
That's a good one.^^
+Jens Koch OMG, no.
Good Suggestion!!!!!
Just to tie up the loose ends, here it is:
ruclips.net/video/hCrTlnG9FE0/видео.html
I loved the start/landing sequences through that whirlpool.
"Rücksturz zur Erde!" :)
Eigentlich hätte man noch erwähnen können, das man dem amerikanischen Schauspieler und Regisseur Peter DeLuise Raumpatroullie gezeigt hat und er es so gut fand, das er in der 19 Episode der 2 Staffel von Stargate Atlantis Sheppard das Antiker-Kampfschiff den Namen Orion geben lässt.
DAT HAT DER NET GEMACHT
I was crazy about this Sci Fi movie, back then.
I even built a paper model of the Orion spaceship, had many hours to play with it!
Did any toy store sell the Orion ship model?
Never seen one?
😎
The dances were awesome!
Not forgetting German cult sci-fi in literature and radio/audio drama such as "Perry Rhodan" (probably the longest running and most successfull sci-fi series ever published with more than 1 billion copies sold worldwide), "Commander Perkins" (where my avatar picture on the left is taken from) or the awesome "Jan Tenner" series:
ruclips.net/video/3nM_f78c7Jw/видео.html
www.jantenner.net/episodes.php
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Tenner
Thanks much for this. I love Raumpatrouille!!
Rewboss, you are a real "Lästermaul" :).
The actors are more convincing than any other I saw.
They talk about SF, not about the personal problems of the main actors.
The Alien are the problem not part of the setup end they start a real invasion.
They are real scary, not human monster with strange outfit.
I... never denied any of this.
rewboss
Surely you did. Its ... contained in your remarks.
Okay. I never said that the actors were bad. I never said they didn't talk about science fiction things -- I merely said that the show offers us an insight into the main characters' private lives (which is a good thing, btw, because it makes them more three-dimensional). That the aliens are the problem _is_ the setup -- I think you just don't know what "setup" means (just to clarify: in the first episode, the aliens are set up as the main antoganists). I never said the aliens didn't start a real invasion (because I was describing the setup of the series, not the entire plot -- I don't want to spoil it for anyone who wants to watch it). And I never said the aliens weren't scary.
rewboss
Due to my limited english we might misunderstand. Impossible for that reason to discuss, what a setting is.
Of course you didnt deny specific any of the themes. But your intention is: how can "Raumpatroulle" be cult in german? So all the points I like, you cannot have seen and so no specific deny is necessry.
Its your right to see it so and you are not alone, but I have noted only a few significant points that speak for this series.
I like your comments. :)
No, my intention is not what you think it is.
Raumschiffe per Bügeleisen steuern, wer träumt da nicht davon? ;-)
Das muss damals ein derart modern-futuristischen Bügeleisen gewesen sein, dass man es nicht als solches erkannte - und die Kulissenbauer müsen gedacht haben, dass sich dieses abegedrehte Design bei Bügeleisen schon nicht durchsetzen würde.
Gesteuert wird es bitteschön mit Eisportionierern, Wasserhähnen und Bleistiftspitzern! Das Bügeleisen ist nur ein Werkzeug. ^^
Wie sonst sollte eine Frau dami klar kommen?
@@civishamburgum1234 So lange noch solche "Witze" gemacht werden, sind wir von Science Fiction wahrlich noch weit entfernt.
This show also had a following in former Soviet Eastern European countries. They naturally didn't get a lot of US tv like Star Trek but had the same curiosity for sci-fi during the Space Age, not to mention access to sci-fi magazines and literature during the Golden Age of Science Fiction which had both great Western and Soviet authors. My father not only owned an Orion board game but could recite a popular children song made up to the tune of the show that was apparently sang by EVERY child in every school during the era.
Just had an hysterical breakdown when I saw you made a video about Raumpatrouille. I grew up with both McLane and Star Trek as my father was .... well, whatever nerds were called in his generation, so I became a nerd myself. Spock and McLane were my first crushes, even before Disney's Robin Hood - hey, he had a nice voice, was clever, a hero AND he could use a bow, who cares if he's not human?
Anyway, I'm really thrilled you made this video. *_*
+Birgit Schwäbe England has "Doctor Who", the U.S. has "Star Trek", & Germany has this show (I'd never heard of it before today). I wonder if France or Italy had their own SF TV shows.
No idea actually. Poland has one, I think. In cooperation with Germany. Itchy .... something or .... I never really saw it but it was on TV a few years ago. Looked a bit like SciFi comedy, bit like Douglas Adams.
+Birgit Schwäbe If you think about "Ion Tichy: Raumpilot": that was a German production.
Exactly, that's the show I was thinking about, thank you :)
+Birgit Schwäbe Let's hope there will be a third season ...
"There's no way those guys are from Earth." "But they talk like us?" - from episode 5
One detail I loved about the language was they would sometimes use English words to name something -- "Frogs", "Overkill" -- kind of like we use Latin today...
"Frogs" was actually an acronym in-series. It stands for "Feindliche Raumschiffe ohne galaktische Seriennummer" - "enemy spaceships without galactic registry numbers". So the name for the galactic invaders is based on the fact that they don't conform to standard bureaucracy, which is about the most German thing imaginable.
@@ospero7681 That acronym was a joke which was made in the context of the feature film cut of the series in the 2000s. But it's a good one. Ah, and it was "Raumverbände", which sounds more like the speak in the series. ;-)
I just found this show on youTube the other day, I found a version which has english subtitles, I am watching it to help learn German.
It's fantastic, I love the design, it has the 1950s idea of how the future would look.
Love it !
When I think of science fiction from germany, i think of Perry Rhodan.
Perry Rodan have sold over one billion copies worldwide, it's the most successfull science fiction book series ever written.
+Grummelgurke
Der erste Perry-Rhodan-Roman erschien im September 1961, knapp drei Monate nach Kennedys berühmter Rede zum Mondprogramm.
Der erste Star-Trek-Film (Raumschiff Enterprise) erschien erst 1966
+Grummelgurke
I agree, and I am quite sure that a lot of star tek movies are based on Perry Rhodan novels
So many coincidences cannot exist.
The first Rhodan novels have come out in Sept. 1961, only 3 to 4 months after Kennedys moon speech.
The first star trek movie has come out in 1966, 5 years later
German SF has some tradition. In 1810, the forgotten author Julius von Voß published a book with the titel "A novel from the twenty-first century", anticipating some social and technological phenomena. Kurd Laßwitz (just 20 years younger than Jules Verne) was the first real German SF author and the first German SF serial in booklets (of which 165 weekly issues appeared), a kind of Perry Rhodan forerunner, dates back to the years before WWI.
Yeah. I thought he would talk about that as well.
@@grummelgurke4065 Actually given the sheer number of Perry Rhodan novles, coincidences can definitely exist.
This really needs a remake.
I thought that the background dancing in the first episode was incredible, it shows some people took a lot of time and care with this show
I love the way they dance!
Never once seen 381 likes and 0 dislikes. Wow so rare that haters haven't found this video.
Rücksturz ins kino! Good times, loved the show on their reruns.
"for some reason everybody speaks German..." They are on to us! Quick, hide the secret Gabelschwanzteufel II!"
Studio Telerop, es ist noch was zu retten
I mean, the music just absolutely SLAPS, and they did the "ship raises through the water" scene by filming a tablet of aspirin in a glass of water and superimposing the fottage upside down.
I hoped you would talk about Perry Rhodan.
It's a booklet series started in 1961 and still being published.
It's got over 4000 published books in the series and spin-offs as of 2019.
I do have a video on Perry Rhodan: ruclips.net/video/8glgeSXnROM/видео.html
Raumpatroille Orion was the most expensive production in german tv to date. Scifi had never the best reputation at the bosses of the pbs networks in germany - that may explain the discontinuation of the series. Star Trek (TOS) was first aired in 1972 in Germany - 26 episodes at first - 13 more followed in the seventies because of good reception of the audience.
With the advent of private networks in the 80s TOS was first completely aired in 1988 - without the nazi episode.
The same year Next Generation started to air in the US ..... what a coincidence.
Nicht trotz der vielen Merkwürdigkeiten, sondern wegen ihnen. Danke für das prima Vid.
And now Space Patrol has been remastered in 4K from the 35mm reels. :-)
At 2:17 you can see the iron in the middel of the orion table. Cool I love this military, after war languagestyle of the artists (like Edgar Wallace movies).
Oh yes .. loved that as a kid when they were rerun in TV in the 80s ... i have all episodes on DVD :D.
Raumpatrolie Orion! Dam Dam da da da, dam dam da dam dadadadam Dam Dam da da da, dam dam daduda!
the movie sucks though. The series is better at every point.
+Zafran Orbian I am with you. The acting of the news anchor spokeswoman (played by an obviously underpayed Elke Heidenreich) is as annoying as it is boring - and ruins the magic of the series.
metalpit1000 Thanks, yes. My biggest problem is that in the Movie the Universe, Characters and Plot feel underdevelloped, wich is a shame since the series was so great in all that, that 7 episodes were enough that even today it feels like a beleavable vast universe with real people.
Hmm, Mrs. Heidenreich made her role from a fans view, not from the point an actor starts from. She seems helpless, doing what she means is best for the role and the nobody tells her it is the worst.
Even "Chad Vader" - a science fiction parody here on YT, made by devoted fans and unmistakeable to be seen: amateurs ist far more better than her acting.
It's far more interesting to see a ball rolling down a slide for the 300th time than watching Mrs. Heidenreich in this role.
She destroys the whole atmosphere.
+Zafran Orbian The books are even better! More adventures and very well written
Raumpatrouille will always be one of my favorite TV series, and, yes, I own the DVDs. You should have mentioned the episode with the robots where the instructor explains the three laws of robotics (according to Asimov, but he doesn't mention him). I think that was the first time on tv that the Asimov laws were explicitly mentioned. (And of course we'll find some robots going wild during the course of the episode.)
SPOILER ALERT:
In the final episode, cmdr McLane and lt Jagelovsk kiss each other.
Van Dyke(!) and Jagelovsk should have kissed each other.
All the episodes are on RUclips. I didn't see anything wrong with it. It was no cheesier than The Outer Limits.
Thank you for your great critic to this series! Indeed I think this was - just 20 years after WW2 - a try to evolve a new mindset in germany. After german desaster of nazi times there was an wish to handle things not just in order-and-obay but in kinds of making up his own mind and take personal responsibility. So there are two generations struggling: The older ones like the generals (with a lot of "beton-heads" like we call them) and a creative younger group like the crew of the ORION. Also: The crew does not call each other by their officers-grade (like in Startrek) or just their family-names (like it was usual to call purples in german schools at that time (1966)) but by personal-names. Which maybe should show their very familiar and friendly connection as a team. Also their names demonstrates an international cooperation (MacLane : british? / Sigbjörnsen: Scandinavian? / Shubashi: slavik? / DeMonti: italian? / Legrelle: gernam or netherlands?) This was a big cut in times of the cold war - in which germany was the front line. But this is just my opinion ...
Shubashi/ Japan Legrelle/ Belgium...
I have heard of it. The quote at the end though. :D
+derLPMaxe Get the DVD set - definitely worth the money.
You say the plot was "formulaic". Sure, in the 50 years since it was broadcasted many of those plot elements were used. But back in the day they were no more formulaic than any other sci-fi. Besides the crew of the Orion is FAR more likeable than say Star Trek's. If I had to compare the closest is the Firefly crew.
The plot was really just the standard 1950s fayre of "evil aliens want to invade Earth, clean-shaven humans must fight back". It was well done, there's no denying that, and they did nicely flesh out the conflicting interests of the various branches of Earth's government and security, but at its core the premise wasn't especially new, even in those days.
Would be interesting how it would've went on from there.
If it had more seasons it might've become quite forward looking and influencial...
Very nice! However, I prefer "Ijon Tichy: Raumpilot".
+IrgendSoEinKanal Was there a movie of Ijon Tichy? And yes, Asimov was a genius.
+Seegal Galguntijak There was a short series: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijon_Tichy:_Raumpilot
Peter Stadlmaier Holy crap and I mixed up Lem and Asimov. But they were both great authors, so...
+IrgendSoEinKanal
for the matters of social life Lem was very easy to follow, but the technical aspects of his bookswere rather difficult for me.
On the other hand the series were funny and a good waste of time! "Bin ich Ijon Tichy. Bin ich Raumpilot!"
I once saw Raumpatrouille in the theater.
No, not the movie.
Just the seven episodes. Back to back. In one night. Length-wise a triple or rather quadruple feature given each episode is 60 minutes. I had a blast. The cinema was sold out I think.
The original series is a jewel. The movie is crap of the worst kind.
How about a video about "Ein Herz und eine Seele", the german version of "Til death to us part"?
Theres' nothing quite so pathetic as a "petulant space cadet"! LOL
As always, you've made another interesting and thought-provoking post!
ich hab die DVDs und alle beneiden mich darum. selbst in der jüngeren generation ist raumpatrouille ein begriff. trotz wasserhähnen und bügeleisen im bühnenbild. oder gerade deswegen. die art wie damals mit praktisch nichts spannung erzeugt wurde ist wirklich ein erlebnis.
+Lena Vogelsang Tja, da man noch kein Arsenal an digitalen Special Effects hatte, musst man sich noch Gedanken machen, und mit "klassischer" Filmkunst, sowie mit tatsächlicher Story behelfen :-)
Denke auch heutzutage sollten wieder mehr "practical effects" eingesetzt werden.
Jurrassic Park kam 1993 in die Kinos, Babylon 5 ging 1994 los. Was sieht besser aus, der T-Rex oder die Raumschiffe?
everybody speaks german there for the same reason that everyone speaks english in Star Trek ;)
If you are into german science fiction I have got one if not THE name for you > Perry Rhodan < :)
+waagemensch Wurde das überhaupt verfilmt? Da könnte man doch heute inzwischen schon eine Serie draus machen, die mehr Episoden hat, als Doctor Who...
+Seegal Galguntijak Ja, es gab einen Film - der war aber katastrophal schlecht
+Peter Stadlmaier Über den Film braucht man garnicht reden, aber wenn es um deutsche Sci Fi geht ist Perry Rhodan für mich DAS Beispiel. Aber viele kennen das leider nicht.
waagemensch Sind halt leider Printmedien, und fallen daher in eine völlig andere Kategorie...
+waagemensch Hehe, ich hab als Kind die ersten... errrr 13 Heftchen oder so gelesen, und fand das garnicht schlecht. Auch wenn es irgendwie schon ein Kind seiner Zeit war und sich nicht wirklichlich mit wissenschaftlicher Realität rumgeplagt hat. Ich hab mich immer gefragt, ob es sich lohnt mehr zu lesen.
Aber mal ehrlich... immer wenn ich heutzutage Perry Rhodan sehe muss ich an diese drollige total bescheuerte Doku denken, wo die Macher versuchen zu beweisen, dass Perry Rhodan ein "Ersatzführer" ist, und daher schlecht und unmoralisch. Weil Hitler :D
wow, that's interesting
Yeah I love it. 😊
Vielleicht wär ein Video über Perry Rhodan auch ganz interessant? Immerhin ist das die Längste durchgehende Erzählung der Menschheitsgeschichte und sogar 2 Jahre älter als Doctor Who.
The basic idea is very similar to Star Trek. The differences: it's in Black & white, shows no aliens and the captain treats his crewmembers even worse than Kirk.
I assume the pronunciation here is correct, but can anyone explain why the final syllable of Raumpatrouille is pronounced with two distinct vowel sounds like the "ie" in Familie rather than the schwa on a typical e-ending?
Originally, patrouille is a French word, but pronouncing the ending like in "Familie" is easier for us Germans.
Challenger an Mz4, erbitte neue Koordinaten.
The 'ridiculous dancing' is one of the best bits!! It's one of the things that makes it special. Did Star Trek ever give any thought to how people would dance in the future???
I hope that in the real future, dancing will be abandoned completely.
@@NuntiusLegis What a silly thing to hope for. But I guess some people hope thath eating or breathing will become superfluous too. Maybe we should do away with living to - it's just a nasty habit... 🙂
@@CARambolagen You called the dancing in Raumpatrouille "ridiculous" and "one of the best bits" in the same sentence. Now who's silly?
@@NuntiusLegis Are you thick? 'Ridiculous dancing" is in quotation marks, quoting the speaker in the video... It is not MY opinion!
@@CARambolagen If you don't even find THAT dancing ridiculous, you can't be helped.
Seven episodes were great and two more series wouldn't have made it better...
why can't the German broadcasting company do a new version of orion 7 ? it would be cool to see a new Episode
+dean faw A few months ago, I have read that there really is the idea of this!
Astrofrank okay cool I think it's time to letting them have there turn in the scfi galaxies & pay tribute to the original cast members
They should have done it when the actors were all stil alive.
Did it have novels? For some reason I think it had novels. The thing I wanted to know is that seeing as how Earth is united, and this is their first encounter with space-faring extra-terrrestrials and Major McLaren is a war hero, what was the war? A colonial rebellion? The final unification war?
Take a look at Wikipedia (german only) de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumschiff_Orion_(Romanserie)
"for some reason, they speak german".
Of course all human have to speak english. All human? The universe of course!
This comment is priceworthy. More english is hardly imaginable.
Another early German science fiction tv production is "Das Blaue Palais" which I recommend. Not as camp, but it explores more serious scifi themes.
It's not that Great Britain does not have some fancy science-fiction shows itself, e.g. Doctor Who or Blake's 7.
But was it as good as 'Blake 7' with it's wonky sets !!!
There's one thing missing here. The intro:
ruclips.net/video/-AvjMHs7U7I/видео.html
well, today it is a nice example of experiencing the odd feeling of "fremdschämen" particularly when watching the dances .... :-\ . but then it's still a good 1960's science fiction show. taking literature as an example it relates to star trek as perry rhodan relates to asimov or heinlein.
u forgot to mention that the world government is a network of intelligent computers that calculate the best decisions
They use computers that way, but the human government has the last word.
Then Germany gave more attention to Dieter-Thomas-Heck and Heinz Schenk.
I always believed that star treck was made after Orion. Now I am disappointed.
Aren't the Americans in the process of making theyr own Orion spacecraft now? Seems that Germany got ahead of them. Over 50 years ago! ;-)
That gigantic nuclear powered recoil thing from the 50s?
"Raumschiff Orion" is called "Raumschiff Wasserhahn" ^^
Wasserhahn = faucet / tap
Uninspired plot?! Come on, man.
For some reason you speak english! 😭😥😓😩