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Hey guys. So being open is great and there's definite improvement from the movie but there's some obvious issues that alot of people are rating it 6\10. Keeping only with what has been shown, the opening scene was great. The Earth bending felt heavy with some obvious limitations that required the fighting style as it's base. Then they drop the ball with the exposition and in world logic. The awkward staging when using a green screen was noticeable and awkward. The earth bender was strong enough to stand on his own feet without his hand and feet bound but didn't immediately attack Sozin or the guards? The instant incineration of fire without the comet is powerful enough to kill anyone instantly. Why would Sozin even want the spy in the throne room if it was part of his plan to misdirect the Earth king's forces. The logic falls apart. The opening without Katara and the obvious CGI avatars is a downgrade from using their LIVE action actors to show the bending. Hint at Azula with the opening firebender being her. Then The drop the ball again by showing us Aang flying twice, once from the building and again trying to summon Appa with the whistle. This is an issue because when his glider gets hit and he "falls" he should have been able to glide the same way he did from the building in the first moments we see him. We also gave Katara longer range to pull water from the ocean all the way up to Appa? Same with Zuko, his fire ball is strong enough to reach that distance to blast a hole in the glider but wasn't strong enough to instantly kill Sokka. Another inconsistency new viewers instantly recognize as hard to grasp the power of everyone's bending. Then there's dialog, performance and again staging like they're in a play instead of outside in the field. They're not behaving like the world is lived in and their clothes look like it's fresh out the box of a cosplay instead of their outfit. Zuko definitely carrying it despite the awkward writing and they have Iroh not as endearing as he is in the show. Iroh constantly tries to redirect Zuko's rage with wisdom and subtle comedic timing. Here's he's an awkward running joke about tea and food that offers no insight or wisdom. That's just episode 1. Katara herself was stripped of her "motherly" attitude. Her strength and weakness is how deeply she feels about things. She's the one cooking and cleaning because that the "woman's job" according to Sokka. In the show she a timid mouse who is lost without Sokka. They inadvertently made the show more misogynistic by taking out Sokka's misogyny and lessons he learns from Suki, Katara, Toph and Yue. Now, Great change by having Suki not know how to flirt and think "this is how guys like to flirt, right?" Great change again, kicking Suki down to make Sokka see less sexist. Now he's sarcastic for sure but he's basically has the better parts of Katara and Aang. They also don't really feel like a group of friends bonding. The animated show and the live action has a difference of about 10 mins (25min episodes x 20 >55min x 8episodes) They literally could have done a shot by shot remake and that maybe would have been better. From the Kiyoshi Warriors instantly showing up and capturing Aang and the rest but no one on patrol when the Zhao ship arrive. They literally have enough time to land get off the ship and march to the town by the time the first bell rings? Also, they took away Suki training Sokka with the other warriors "to save his ego." That's misogynistic writing. They didn't have him dress up, avoiding "straight men in drag" which is also bigoted writing. There's a reason she dresses him up to explain the values of Kiyoshi Warriors and lore. It falls flat when she gives him the fan because you don't know what it represents anymore. The writing is super dumbed down hitting us with exposition instead of showing us. I think the cleverest line was Suki's mother saying "the longer the boy stays the more dangerous he is." Obviously, she's addressing Aang's presence, She's also talking about the presence of love for Suki, and addressing the sexual repercussions that's driving Suki everyone is seeing. This is like a triple meaning that even I was surprised because the rest of dialog was surface level. The animated show is great because it had that level of layers that not many people picked up the first time. Many adults as they grew rewatched the episodes to discover deeper real world truths. This episode doesn't have that. It's heavy handed exposition and unironically more sexist with the changes .
to be honest: i don't understand why people act as if the show is great somehow, while in reality it is weak af.. the earth bending in episode 1 looked good, but it already stops there. the acting and every single conversation looks and feels artificial... it's hard to think of any show with such bad acting and conversations and interactions which felt so unnatural and fake.... also everything that made the animated show great is gone: the humor, which was on point in the animated show, the character building and progression, the warmth between katara, aang and even sokka which drew you right in even in episode 3 of the animated show already - what am i saying, even in EP 1 already in the animated show aang gets angry when he finds gyatso and enters the avatar state and katara talks him down by telling him about losing her mum, telling aang that she understands him, tells him she and sokka being his family now, which calms aang and makes him cry in her arms... lots of warmth and bonding between them.. the netflix show has nothing of that.. instead we get more emotionless and fake acting from gyatso who tells aang about being his friend and aang who calms himself down... where is the bonding, warmth and understanding between the main characters of our story.. and that's just an example which can be applied to every other interaction between the characters. the animated show had more bonding, humor, warmth, character development, believable emotions, motivations and world building in episode 1 than the netflix show has in 1 whole season.. every character feels like an empty shell placed in a scene to read a script.. and yeah, i know that's what actors do, but it still is very bad if the viewers realize that it is what the people are doing on screen... the netflix show also fails miserably to convey anything at all the animated show was conveying and "teaching" just as it fails to establish any meaningful emotional bond between the chars which i as viewer can buy into...
I literally love your reactions! What I love the most is that you guys are so open to the changes they made and it's not a constant comparison story, comparing it to the cartoon like how other people are doing it. This was such a fun episode and super epic when Kyoshi came! I especially loved the little details from the Kyoshi novels that they added there! I cannot wait for your next reaction!
I love how they added the concept of Aang calming his fears and doubts by focusing on the voice of someone who believed in him. 💜 the added presence of Gyatso is beautiful.
20:24 It makes me laugh when the leader of Kyoshi Island looks Commander Zhao right in the eyes and says "You and your men are the only Outsiders here" when Sokka is literally standing amongst her Warriors in his Southern Water Tribe clothes. 😂
I am a HUGE Kyoshi nerd. I love the 2 Kyoshi novels that were released. Oddly enough when she was abandoned by her parents she was taken in to be a servant in the home of one of Avatar Kuruk's companions (like Katara and Sokka). Couple of stats for Kyoshi, she was 7ft tall and lived to be 270 years old. She also fell in love with a woman (her fire bender guard)
I LOVED THE LIVE ACTION! The hate its gotten is very forced and unfair. I love the changes theyve made, we still have the cartoon if we wanna fall back to it, I genuinely liked seeing new concepts and ideas in a world we all love soso much. Thanks for yet another positive and fun reaction 😊
The reviews the live action has gotten is unfair imo. Ofc it has nothing on the original animation, but that’s almost impossible to beat and people expect way too much.
@@AstaraBrightwing Their are many live action adaptations that aren’t as good as the original versions. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be made, think of how many more people will watch the animated version now
And tbh, a lot of the criticism I see are people unknowingly comparing all 3 Books of the animation to this single season of live action. When people should be comparing season 1 only to Book 1, and let me tell you, Netflix season 1 is better than Book 1 overall
@JrE-il7cf , season 2 has very few filler episodes. So, I think they brought some of the stuffs forward, so that if they will be doing season 2, important aspects can be explored better. The only thing I hate about this adaptation has to do with character butchering of Katara and Bumi. Katara was a complex character (my second favorite) in the animation, but here she is too bland. All the jealousy and hot headedness surrounding her compassionate nature is completely absent. 🤦
Fun Fact: Daniel Dae Kim, the actor playing Fire Lord Ozai in the live-action series adaptation of the Avatar: The Last Air Bender was the one who voiced Hiroshi Sato in the animated series of Avatar: The Legend of Korra
This episode was just really fun Some things that were changed from the original made me a bit uncomfortable in the beginning but rewatching it with you guys made me like it a lot now Kyoshi just being the badass she is was 🤌
I think opening with the genocide of the air nation achieves two things. First it sets up the show at the start as being more on the darker end. The original was never truly a kids show but this live action isn't going to be pulling punches. More importantly, the people who say they prefer the intrigue and the gradual discovery of that information aren't thinking about the different format of this show. Drip fed information works well over a long 20 episode season but when you have only 8 episodes (even when longer) and they are being released in one go as a single 8 hour story, you don't really have the time for people to sit and process things slowly. Therefore, front loading this information sets the tone of how evil and powerful the fire nation actually is and prepares viewers to be on the edge of their seat. If they drip fed, it would either come too little too late, or worse, it would all come at once later on and you lack that intensity for the first part of the season.
Yes im well aware the overall runtime is similar between the two. However, episode structure and the way they split/pace that time is also an important factor. Despite being roughly the same amount of time being on episode 10 of the original is going to have different pacing than being on episode 4. As ultimately an hour split into three bookended episodes is completely different than a single hour long episode, especially when you factor in time between episodes allowing the shorter original to focus on smaller details more often. Just look at how many things they had to remove or combine to make it fit into the 8 hour structure. In order to drip feed you need the available space to fit it in over time.@@Yuksen2U
+1, live action format simply requires more time to tell less narrative, but it can add depth. Animation, especially in the narrative style that ATLA had, can get a lot of story across by implying things. Similar to a comic strip with just a few frames, to a lesser extent.
Loving your reviews and also enjoying this live action version.Totally agree that they hurt Sokka’s character arc by removing his disregard for “girl warriors”. Kyoshi was a boss!!
kinda reminds me of Avatar Roku when he channeled himself to Aang's body in the animated version, I didn't expect this but Avatar Kyoshi is insane beast lol
Despite all the fans that hate this show just because it’s not a carbon copy of the animated series and those who have nitpicked all the tiny little things that aren’t completely perfect, this show still has a really could rotten tomato score of 75%. That just goes to show how good the show actually is. If it was just a stand alone show that didn’t have the animation preceding it with all the idiots nitpicking it it’d be in the high 80’s for sure. This show is epic!
I'm not sure why it has to devolve to name-calling. There are legitimate reasons to dislike every single show ever made, you don't need to take criticism of a show you like as a personal attack.
Very happy with the adaption, around a 7/10 for me. Not sure why people are so angry at nothing, I've come from watching Rings of Power as a massive LOTR fan, nothing can get worse than that. At least in this they show respect to the original source material.
I loved this episode and the first season I even got my friends who were very skeptical into this show so what if it's not 100% accurate it's good on it's own
I was so excited to see Kyoshi in action, I mean her moving an entire island away from the mainland was great, but her displaying that power in this live-action version was just a cinematic masterpiece
I really like the Zuko actor, he's doing a great job. It's not 1 for 1 exact, but he's doing a good job while making it his own. Sokka is really great too. In the cartoon Kitara is her spunky self right from the beginning, the live action show is just giving her time to grow into that.
Fire Lord Ozai and Commander Zhao were once LOST on an island, and a Smoke Monster chased them until they figured out how to turn smoke into fire; the rest became history.
You know, I get why people don't like why Aang didn't learn waterbending with Katara in this episode, but people forget he is literally 12! 12 isn't an age where you can simply forget a huge tragedy like that overnight. I have a cousin who's 12 and I cannot even imagine him being in Aang's position and needing to all of a sudden take on new responsibility.
Okay but let’s be honest, no one’s complaining about him not learning it in this episode. They’re complaining about him not learning water bending at all this season. At this point in the cartoon Aang isn’t even water bending because that doesn’t happen until Katara steals the water bending scroll. After that they practice together and he’s a natural because he’s already a master air bender and water is a parallel element.
@@hunkydory8437 I know hehe but i didn't want to mention that cause it may be a spoiler for Pudgey and Spartan. I was a bit confused why they chose that path but I mean it didn't stop it from still being an enjoyable season!
@@keanancupidoIt was enjoyable for sure, but this was a major plot hole. The avatar must learn all 4 elements, except only katara learns water bending, and only katara will be trained by master paaku? Aang will learn it when he learns it! He'll get round to it..
@@pepsipwns666 I see your point 🙈 But when they have him do waterbending I HOPE they have that little kerfuffle where Katara got upset that he learned quickly.
Aang gave himself head trauma and Katara didn't run to see if he's alright or react to it even though Aang is the last person to be able to stand a chance in stopping the Phoenix King.
I don't think that the Southern water tribe pushes the women into traditional roles as much as the North, because remember Gran Gran left the North to go to the South so that she wouldn't be forced to marry. With Hama's episode there were female waterbenders (including herself) fighting. A reference you might enjoy is it's like Sparta 😆 Spartan women had more liberties when it came to owning land and training in combat compared to other Greek women but still not as many liberties as the men. I don't think that cutting out that part of Sokka's arc hurt his character growth. You have to ask yourself why was he comparing himself to Suki to begin with? It's because he had insecurities about being a competent warrior and protector, which this show addresses a lot without him having to insult Suki. Instead of him taking out his insecurities on her when she beats him (which happens too often), he confides in her and she reassures him that he is a REAL warrior and supports him. Sounds like a much healthier way to start a relationship! Plus, that arc didn't last very long for him in the animation, and it was never referenced again yet his role as a leader continued to grow and change.
Sokka's story arc has moved from being sexist to having imposter syndrome (even in this episode he says that he is not a "real" warrior). It was probably the root cause of his sexism in the original series anyway. I like this change since it makes his relationship with his sister even better.
That's exactly what I commented. His sexist comments towards Suki always came from a place of insecurity (as it often does) about his own abilities and warrior status. Instead of degrading her to make himself feel better, he confided in her and she supported and reassured him of his strength! That's a much healthier couple interaction!
The only thing that was changed, which I had a slight issue with, was the fact that Aang seemed to have left the night of the attack just to think and he wasn’t running away. It changes the level of guilt he has to face. Besides that, all other changes were perfectly fine.
I see this as a cover version & a more than decent one at that. Yes it's not the original tune OR band singing it but it reminds me of the original AND I'm ok with the newer arrangement, even if it IS different. like Tainted Love: the Gloria Jones original is the goat, the Soft Cell version is iconic and the Marilyn Manson version is rocky & dirty but every one of them is adored by various people.
I think it's clear that, so far at least, the creators of this series have researched and taken lessons from the failure of the live action that preceded them.
Edit: there was a kyoshi scene in s2 where she takes over aangs body to tell them what happened a few hundred yrs agk. The kyoshi scene in this ep is a substitute for the same scene in the animated series where Roku does the same thing in the fire temple (in s1). With that, one critique of mine is theyve lessened Roku's role in the live action series compared to the cartoon. In fact Kyoshi and Kuruk play a greater role in season 1 LA than Roku, who is a short cameo (which im not a fan of).
I think Roku will get his turn to shine in later seasons. To me the show wanted the audience to experience as many different Avatars interactions as possible, so if it makes sense, they incorporate the Avatar. I am down with this strategy.
27:58 what moment in the animated version is he referring to? aang never went into the spirit world in the Kiyoshi island episode in the animated version
He might be thinking of a later episode when Aang turns into Avatar Kyoshi at his trial and we get a flashback of her fighting Chin the Conqueror. Think he just means in general, that her powers look much better in live action.
Coming from a huge ATLA fan here, I am ok with the adaptation. I love it! There were some ‘meh’ moments for sure but it was a great adaptation overall. I’ve watched the original series when it was first release (2005) and I was 21 years old then. Now at 40, I’ve binge-watched the series over a hundred times and my 2 small kids have watched the it multiple times with me already. That’s why I’m a bit little bit critical. But my kids tho, they are more aggressive in pointing out so many differences.
Some scenes (and I won't talk about others not to give spoilers) they are more worked on this series than in the cartoon. Kyoshi's scene is an example, but wait until episode 6. The way they work on a specific theme is incredibly more touching than in the cartoon. My opinion, of course. Series 8/10 ❤️
This episode was one of my favorites ❤ Pudgy is right about Katara and Zuko's lack of chemistry. I wonder if it's because Katara wasn't the best actress, and so some of the chemistry with the other characters felt like acting. But she is a young actress, so she may do better in the next season!
The first time we see an older Avatar posess Aang was Avatar Roku, which seems they decided to go for Kyoshi this time. Which is fine, its an artistic decision to go slightly different then the original show, but still has a similar purpose. I have yet to see further episodes until now cause I work weekends, but I am excited to see the next episodes.
Sokkas sexism only lasted until the kyoshi island episode and it really never came up again. It was such a short arc and everybody is saying its such an important part of sokka when in reality its just something thats so small.
The complaints are, no sexism, no child romance, and the exact specific motivations for characters aren't the same, it's basically the same but it's not specifically exactly just like the cartoon
I like how Spartan maybe is a little bully, but his instincts are aimed to protect Pudgey. He knows she is to innocent for the world. That kind of interactions make me enjoy more this channel is wholesome.
The only thing I didn’t like was Katara casually flipping that book and coincidentally finding the information that determines the entire outcome of the episode. And then she explains the plot. Show, don’t tell.
The one thing I loved about Kiyoshi in this adaption is how it reminded me of a Lady Galadriel from The Lord of the Rings. You can see her being gentle, but yet you could see her, especially when she was tempted by the Ring how hard-core she could become. Which is what I think maybe the intention was Kiyoshi was giving Aang tough love on what it means to be the Avatar. 🌪️🪨💧🔥🪭🪬💛💚💙❤️
Some epsiodes like 1 are weaker, some like this are strong as FUCK. Episodes like this make me so hopeful for the subsequent seasons. They have what they need to build the show on
What a weird point of view. Should we prostrate ourselves before Netflix and thank them for bestowing a TV show upon us? Art can and should be viewed critically.
Yo creo que los actores fueron los ideales para cada personaje, pero siento que la actriz de katara era algo apagada, como si estuviera algo desanimada a comparacion de la version animada, aang nada que decir, un 10 perfecto, mismo carisma, y muy expresivo. Como acotacion personal cre que en cuanto a temperamente y caracter de cada personaje, por supuesto es posible imitar, en cambio lo que es algo mas dificil es imitar los estilos de peleas tal como en la serie animada pero los efectos especiales se lograron muy bien en cada elemento, a comparacion de la pelicula del ultimo maestro aire
A lot of people are saying this is the scroll from the pirates.. my question is where was katara learning the basics in the cartoon? she can still get a scroll with more advanced moves from the pirates.
Surprised you're liking it this much, wish I could say the same. There are some decent visuals, but I can't get past the cringe and some of the casting. Dialogue and acting is incredibly rough. But hey, if you're enjoying it, good on ya.
There's litteraly just one problem with this channel, and i say that with love. It's the sound of your intros and outros. It's an earsore 10 decibels higher than your speaking volume that acts as an electrochoc and makes me wince/jolt, especially in the end. I hope i'm not gonna become public enemy number one for stating this.
Nah they made Suki so dirty, man. Like the actress resembles her and she does a good job, and the makeup and costume are very accurate but the writers made her dirty. This was arguably the best couple in the original and they make me cringe in the LA.
Avatar Kyoshi was so hype this episode! that looked amazing!! Did you guys love this episode as much as we did?!
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Hey guys. So being open is great and there's definite improvement from the movie but there's some obvious issues that alot of people are rating it 6\10. Keeping only with what has been shown, the opening scene was great. The Earth bending felt heavy with some obvious limitations that required the fighting style as it's base. Then they drop the ball with the exposition and in world logic. The awkward staging when using a green screen was noticeable and awkward. The earth bender was strong enough to stand on his own feet without his hand and feet bound but didn't immediately attack Sozin or the guards? The instant incineration of fire without the comet is powerful enough to kill anyone instantly. Why would Sozin even want the spy in the throne room if it was part of his plan to misdirect the Earth king's forces. The logic falls apart. The opening without Katara and the obvious CGI avatars is a downgrade from using their LIVE action actors to show the bending. Hint at Azula with the opening firebender being her. Then The drop the ball again by showing us Aang flying twice, once from the building and again trying to summon Appa with the whistle. This is an issue because when his glider gets hit and he "falls" he should have been able to glide the same way he did from the building in the first moments we see him. We also gave Katara longer range to pull water from the ocean all the way up to Appa? Same with Zuko, his fire ball is strong enough to reach that distance to blast a hole in the glider but wasn't strong enough to instantly kill Sokka. Another inconsistency new viewers instantly recognize as hard to grasp the power of everyone's bending. Then there's dialog, performance and again staging like they're in a play instead of outside in the field. They're not behaving like the world is lived in and their clothes look like it's fresh out the box of a cosplay instead of their outfit. Zuko definitely carrying it despite the awkward writing and they have Iroh not as endearing as he is in the show. Iroh constantly tries to redirect Zuko's rage with wisdom and subtle comedic timing. Here's he's an awkward running joke about tea and food that offers no insight or wisdom. That's just episode 1. Katara herself was stripped of her "motherly" attitude. Her strength and weakness is how deeply she feels about things. She's the one cooking and cleaning because that the "woman's job" according to Sokka. In the show she a timid mouse who is lost without Sokka. They inadvertently made the show more misogynistic by taking out Sokka's misogyny and lessons he learns from Suki, Katara, Toph and Yue. Now, Great change by having Suki not know how to flirt and think "this is how guys like to flirt, right?" Great change again, kicking Suki down to make Sokka see less sexist. Now he's sarcastic for sure but he's basically has the better parts of Katara and Aang. They also don't really feel like a group of friends bonding. The animated show and the live action has a difference of about 10 mins (25min episodes x 20 >55min x 8episodes) They literally could have done a shot by shot remake and that maybe would have been better. From the Kiyoshi Warriors instantly showing up and capturing Aang and the rest but no one on patrol when the Zhao ship arrive. They literally have enough time to land get off the ship and march to the town by the time the first bell rings? Also, they took away Suki training Sokka with the other warriors "to save his ego." That's misogynistic writing. They didn't have him dress up, avoiding "straight men in drag" which is also bigoted writing. There's a reason she dresses him up to explain the values of Kiyoshi Warriors and lore. It falls flat when she gives him the fan because you don't know what it represents anymore. The writing is super dumbed down hitting us with exposition instead of showing us. I think the cleverest line was Suki's mother saying "the longer the boy stays the more dangerous he is." Obviously, she's addressing Aang's presence, She's also talking about the presence of love for Suki, and addressing the sexual repercussions that's driving Suki everyone is seeing. This is like a triple meaning that even I was surprised because the rest of dialog was surface level. The animated show is great because it had that level of layers that not many people picked up the first time. Many adults as they grew rewatched the episodes to discover deeper real world truths. This episode doesn't have that. It's heavy handed exposition and unironically more sexist with the changes .
to be honest: i don't understand why people act as if the show is great somehow, while in reality it is weak af.. the earth bending in episode 1 looked good, but it already stops there.
the acting and every single conversation looks and feels artificial... it's hard to think of any show with such bad acting and conversations and interactions which felt so unnatural and fake.... also everything that made the animated show great is gone: the humor, which was on point in the animated show, the character building and progression, the warmth between katara, aang and even sokka which drew you right in even in episode 3 of the animated show already - what am i saying, even in EP 1 already
in the animated show aang gets angry when he finds gyatso and enters the avatar state and katara talks him down by telling him about losing her mum, telling aang that she understands him, tells him she and sokka being his family now, which calms aang and makes him cry in her arms... lots of warmth and bonding between them.. the netflix show has nothing of that.. instead we get more emotionless and fake acting from gyatso who tells aang about being his friend and aang who calms himself down... where is the bonding, warmth and understanding between the main characters of our story..
and that's just an example which can be applied to every other interaction between the characters. the animated show had more bonding, humor, warmth, character development, believable emotions, motivations and world building in episode 1 than the netflix show has in 1 whole season.. every character feels like an empty shell placed in a scene to read a script.. and yeah, i know that's what actors do, but it still is very bad if the viewers realize that it is what the people are doing on screen...
the netflix show also fails miserably to convey anything at all the animated show was conveying and "teaching" just as it fails to establish any meaningful emotional bond between the chars which i as viewer can buy into...
I dont know if you guys noticed, but Daniel Dae Kim that plays Ozai, also voiced Hiroshi Sato in Korra.
@@crappiefisher1331 I see someone only comments negative on this channel 😂
@@gualacheesesteak i see someone only talks bullshit in all his comments 😂
The way Pudgey says “Momo” as “MoarMoar” is amazing 😂
22:42 everyone's gansta until Kyoshi shows up: it is time for some corpses
"He Ran!!!!" LOL i love this Zuko so much!
I literally love your reactions! What I love the most is that you guys are so open to the changes they made and it's not a constant comparison story, comparing it to the cartoon like how other people are doing it. This was such a fun episode and super epic when Kyoshi came! I especially loved the little details from the Kyoshi novels that they added there! I cannot wait for your next reaction!
It's because they are not American...
@@whakjob true!!
I love how they added the concept of Aang calming his fears and doubts by focusing on the voice of someone who believed in him. 💜 the added presence of Gyatso is beautiful.
20:24 It makes me laugh when the leader of Kyoshi Island looks Commander Zhao right in the eyes and says "You and your men are the only Outsiders here" when Sokka is literally standing amongst her Warriors in his Southern Water Tribe clothes. 😂
Maybe she thought the Kyoshi warrior armor was great camouflage.
Outsider could be used in the context of somebody that is unwanted, team avatar was welcome and therfore not outsiders.
I am a HUGE Kyoshi nerd. I love the 2 Kyoshi novels that were released. Oddly enough when she was abandoned by her parents she was taken in to be a servant in the home of one of Avatar Kuruk's companions (like Katara and Sokka). Couple of stats for Kyoshi, she was 7ft tall and lived to be 270 years old. She also fell in love with a woman (her fire bender guard)
Kiyoshi is not 7 feet and not the tallest avatar either (Roku is taller than her) Kiyoshi is approximately 6'5 to 6'6
.. She also lived for 230 years.
@@hamodmj5631Where are you all getting these information!? She was actually 7 2 and she lived for 280 years old lol
@@Kopie0830 the height was never confirmed it was only said that she was very tall and it is confirmed that she lives for 230 years
@@toamszkozak8822The height is confirmed in legends of Korra, she was over 7 feet tall.
@@Igorteddede Where was it confirmed?
I LOVED THE LIVE ACTION! The hate its gotten is very forced and unfair. I love the changes theyve made, we still have the cartoon if we wanna fall back to it, I genuinely liked seeing new concepts and ideas in a world we all love soso much. Thanks for yet another positive and fun reaction 😊
The reviews the live action has gotten is unfair imo. Ofc it has nothing on the original animation, but that’s almost impossible to beat and people expect way too much.
@JrE-il7cf, only a quarter of the criticisms I've read or heard are fair.
@@AstaraBrightwing Their are many live action adaptations that aren’t as good as the original versions. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be made, think of how many more people will watch the animated version now
And tbh, a lot of the criticism I see are people unknowingly comparing all 3 Books of the animation to this single season of live action.
When people should be comparing season 1 only to Book 1, and let me tell you, Netflix season 1 is better than Book 1 overall
Thing is, they are fucking it up for maaaaany who like the adaptation, because we wwant more seasons
@JrE-il7cf , season 2 has very few filler episodes. So, I think they brought some of the stuffs forward, so that if they will be doing season 2, important aspects can be explored better. The only thing I hate about this adaptation has to do with character butchering of Katara and Bumi. Katara was a complex character (my second favorite) in the animation, but here she is too bland. All the jealousy and hot headedness surrounding her compassionate nature is completely absent. 🤦
Fun Fact: Daniel Dae Kim, the actor playing Fire Lord Ozai in the live-action series adaptation of the Avatar: The Last Air Bender was the one who voiced Hiroshi Sato in the animated series of Avatar: The Legend of Korra
He also voiced the Earth Kingdom general in Book 2, episode 1 of ATLA!
"I'd love to see her in action." Spartan's prophetic.
This episode was just really fun
Some things that were changed from the original made me a bit uncomfortable in the beginning but rewatching it with you guys made me like it a lot now
Kyoshi just being the badass she is was 🤌
I think opening with the genocide of the air nation achieves two things. First it sets up the show at the start as being more on the darker end. The original was never truly a kids show but this live action isn't going to be pulling punches. More importantly, the people who say they prefer the intrigue and the gradual discovery of that information aren't thinking about the different format of this show. Drip fed information works well over a long 20 episode season but when you have only 8 episodes (even when longer) and they are being released in one go as a single 8 hour story, you don't really have the time for people to sit and process things slowly. Therefore, front loading this information sets the tone of how evil and powerful the fire nation actually is and prepares viewers to be on the edge of their seat. If they drip fed, it would either come too little too late, or worse, it would all come at once later on and you lack that intensity for the first part of the season.
You do realize that the Netflix adaptation is roughly the same length of time as the first book right?
Yes im well aware the overall runtime is similar between the two. However, episode structure and the way they split/pace that time is also an important factor. Despite being roughly the same amount of time being on episode 10 of the original is going to have different pacing than being on episode 4. As ultimately an hour split into three bookended episodes is completely different than a single hour long episode, especially when you factor in time between episodes allowing the shorter original to focus on smaller details more often. Just look at how many things they had to remove or combine to make it fit into the 8 hour structure. In order to drip feed you need the available space to fit it in over time.@@Yuksen2U
+1, live action format simply requires more time to tell less narrative, but it can add depth. Animation, especially in the narrative style that ATLA had, can get a lot of story across by implying things. Similar to a comic strip with just a few frames, to a lesser extent.
Kyoshi looked like the damn goddess of war
The absolute best episode.
HE RAN WITH THE JAZZ HANDS 🗣️🚨
it cracks me up every time I see that joke come up between the cast members 😭😭
Loving your reviews and also enjoying this live action version.Totally agree that they hurt Sokka’s character arc by removing his disregard for “girl warriors”. Kyoshi was a boss!!
kinda reminds me of Avatar Roku when he channeled himself to Aang's body in the animated version, I didn't expect this but Avatar Kyoshi is insane beast lol
Kyoshi means business!
Sneaky snake Zhao! lol
They pulled a Roku by having Kyoshi embody Aang. What a great way to compress the story, give us crazy action, and develop the mythos.
"Pai sho baby"!!!!!! Great line. Also agree w Pudgey about the makeup coming off in like 5 seconds....lol
Kyoshi is definitely my favorite. Total savage. Mercy does not exist in her dojo!
Yangchen is way more ruthless in canon. Funny Since she is an airbending avatar
Honestly enjoyed this series a lot, they’ve made a few changes but I’m excited to see where it gos
Despite all the fans that hate this show just because it’s not a carbon copy of the animated series and those who have nitpicked all the tiny little things that aren’t completely perfect, this show still has a really could rotten tomato score of 75%. That just goes to show how good the show actually is. If it was just a stand alone show that didn’t have the animation preceding it with all the idiots nitpicking it it’d be in the high 80’s for sure. This show is epic!
I'm not sure why it has to devolve to name-calling. There are legitimate reasons to dislike every single show ever made, you don't need to take criticism of a show you like as a personal attack.
Very happy with the adaption, around a 7/10 for me. Not sure why people are so angry at nothing, I've come from watching Rings of Power as a massive LOTR fan, nothing can get worse than that. At least in this they show respect to the original source material.
the lack of reaction to katara’s flashback was so funny LOL. I was so shocked
I loved this episode and the first season I even got my friends who were very skeptical into this show so what if it's not 100% accurate it's good on it's own
I was so excited to see Kyoshi in action, I mean her moving an entire island away from the mainland was great, but her displaying that power in this live-action version was just a cinematic masterpiece
I really like the Zuko actor, he's doing a great job. It's not 1 for 1 exact, but he's doing a good job while making it his own. Sokka is really great too. In the cartoon Kitara is her spunky self right from the beginning, the live action show is just giving her time to grow into that.
Fire Lord Ozai and Commander Zhao were once LOST on an island, and a Smoke Monster chased them until they figured out how to turn smoke into fire; the rest became history.
You know, I get why people don't like why Aang didn't learn waterbending with Katara in this episode, but people forget he is literally 12! 12 isn't an age where you can simply forget a huge tragedy like that overnight. I have a cousin who's 12 and I cannot even imagine him being in Aang's position and needing to all of a sudden take on new responsibility.
Okay but let’s be honest, no one’s complaining about him not learning it in this episode. They’re complaining about him not learning water bending at all this season.
At this point in the cartoon Aang isn’t even water bending because that doesn’t happen until Katara steals the water bending scroll. After that they practice together and he’s a natural because he’s already a master air bender and water is a parallel element.
@@hunkydory8437 I know hehe but i didn't want to mention that cause it may be a spoiler for Pudgey and Spartan. I was a bit confused why they chose that path but I mean it didn't stop it from still being an enjoyable season!
@@keanancupidoIt was enjoyable for sure, but this was a major plot hole. The avatar must learn all 4 elements, except only katara learns water bending, and only katara will be trained by master paaku? Aang will learn it when he learns it! He'll get round to it..
@@pepsipwns666 I see your point 🙈 But when they have him do waterbending I HOPE they have that little kerfuffle where Katara got upset that he learned quickly.
I guess you can say that Suki was a “fan” of Sokka
Kyoshi in action! My dream came true❤
kyoshi would have kicked ozai ass so hard if she was around, her power is insane the amount of raw power she has.
Aang gave himself head trauma and Katara didn't run to see if he's alright or react to it even though Aang is the last person to be able to stand a chance in stopping the Phoenix King.
I don't think that the Southern water tribe pushes the women into traditional roles as much as the North, because remember Gran Gran left the North to go to the South so that she wouldn't be forced to marry. With Hama's episode there were female waterbenders (including herself) fighting. A reference you might enjoy is it's like Sparta 😆 Spartan women had more liberties when it came to owning land and training in combat compared to other Greek women but still not as many liberties as the men.
I don't think that cutting out that part of Sokka's arc hurt his character growth. You have to ask yourself why was he comparing himself to Suki to begin with? It's because he had insecurities about being a competent warrior and protector, which this show addresses a lot without him having to insult Suki. Instead of him taking out his insecurities on her when she beats him (which happens too often), he confides in her and she reassures him that he is a REAL warrior and supports him. Sounds like a much healthier way to start a relationship! Plus, that arc didn't last very long for him in the animation, and it was never referenced again yet his role as a leader continued to grow and change.
Sokka's story arc has moved from being sexist to having imposter syndrome (even in this episode he says that he is not a "real" warrior). It was probably the root cause of his sexism in the original series anyway. I like this change since it makes his relationship with his sister even better.
That's exactly what I commented. His sexist comments towards Suki always came from a place of insecurity (as it often does) about his own abilities and warrior status. Instead of degrading her to make himself feel better, he confided in her and she supported and reassured him of his strength! That's a much healthier couple interaction!
Kyoshi have two novels about her "Rise of Kyoshi" and "shadow of kyoshi" they are really great so if you want to see more of her you should read them
The only thing that was changed, which I had a slight issue with, was the fact that Aang seemed to have left the night of the attack just to think and he wasn’t running away. It changes the level of guilt he has to face. Besides that, all other changes were perfectly fine.
I see this as a cover version & a more than decent one at that.
Yes it's not the original tune OR band singing it but it reminds me of the original AND I'm ok with the newer arrangement, even if it IS different.
like Tainted Love: the Gloria Jones original is the goat, the Soft Cell version is iconic and the Marilyn Manson version is rocky & dirty but every one of them is adored by various people.
Great adaptation, with changes j luv 90 procent off , this and 6 are my fav episodes
I think it's clear that, so far at least, the creators of this series have researched and taken lessons from the failure of the live action that preceded them.
Edit: there was a kyoshi scene in s2 where she takes over aangs body to tell them what happened a few hundred yrs agk.
The kyoshi scene in this ep is a substitute for the same scene in the animated series where Roku does the same thing in the fire temple (in s1). With that, one critique of mine is theyve lessened Roku's role in the live action series compared to the cartoon. In fact Kyoshi and Kuruk play a greater role in season 1 LA than Roku, who is a short cameo (which im not a fan of).
I think Roku will get his turn to shine in later seasons. To me the show wanted the audience to experience as many different Avatars interactions as possible, so if it makes sense, they incorporate the Avatar. I am down with this strategy.
For me I felt a lot better about Zuko and Iroh's chemistry after episode 4. It'll get better.
Spartan & Pudgey Awesome Video/Episode Today!!🔥🐐🐐💎
It is a best adaptation
27:58 what moment in the animated version is he referring to? aang never went into the spirit world in the Kiyoshi island episode in the animated version
also aang was supposed to struggle to get in that state. but no he can just go to a shrine now . . .
He might be thinking of a later episode when Aang turns into Avatar Kyoshi at his trial and we get a flashback of her fighting Chin the Conqueror. Think he just means in general, that her powers look much better in live action.
Coming from a huge ATLA fan here, I am ok with the adaptation. I love it! There were some ‘meh’ moments for sure but it was a great adaptation overall. I’ve watched the original series when it was first release (2005) and I was 21 years old then. Now at 40, I’ve binge-watched the series over a hundred times and my 2 small kids have watched the it multiple times with me already. That’s why I’m a bit little bit critical. But my kids tho, they are more aggressive in pointing out so many differences.
Some scenes (and I won't talk about others not to give spoilers) they are more worked on this series than in the cartoon. Kyoshi's scene is an example, but wait until episode 6. The way they work on a specific theme is incredibly more touching than in the cartoon. My opinion, of course. Series 8/10 ❤️
Ian Ousley (Sokka), Maria Zhang (Suki), and Yvonne Chapman (Kyoshi) stole the show this episode, this is personally my favorite of the first season.
This episode was one of my favorites ❤ Pudgy is right about Katara and Zuko's lack of chemistry. I wonder if it's because Katara wasn't the best actress, and so some of the chemistry with the other characters felt like acting. But she is a young actress, so she may do better in the next season!
if you guys getting teary now, wait till later episodes
I hope people will give it some time to grow. It is not the original, but it shouldn't be.
I NEED ANOTHER INDEPENDENT SERIES BASED ON KYOSHI FR . "The Legend Of Kyoshi" I NEED IT , and ofc Yvonne Chapman as Kyoshi No doubt
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
The first time we see an older Avatar posess Aang was Avatar Roku, which seems they decided to go for Kyoshi this time. Which is fine, its an artistic decision to go slightly different then the original show, but still has a similar purpose. I have yet to see further episodes until now cause I work weekends, but I am excited to see the next episodes.
I'm actually more hyped about the Kyoshi part tbh
As a non show watcher I also thought it was a pretty good episode.
Prime Kyoshi woulda stopped the 100 year war when it was 2 minutes old ngl
22:01 Compared to the animated show, he seems to be a faster learner.
Sokkas sexism only lasted until the kyoshi island episode and it really never came up again. It was such a short arc and everybody is saying its such an important part of sokka when in reality its just something thats so small.
They blew their load on showing a fully powered avatar waaaaaay too early.
The complaints are, no sexism, no child romance, and the exact specific motivations for characters aren't the same, it's basically the same but it's not specifically exactly just like the cartoon
I like how Spartan maybe is a little bully, but his instincts are aimed to protect Pudgey. He knows she is to innocent for the world. That kind of interactions make me enjoy more this channel is wholesome.
The only thing I didn’t like was Katara casually flipping that book and coincidentally finding the information that determines the entire outcome of the episode.
And then she explains the plot. Show, don’t tell.
21:34 "I would love to see her in action."
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Great reaction ❤
if this ep got you emotional, you are not ready for later episodes
katara and zuko’s chemistry?? what was pudgey talking about 😭
The one thing I loved about Kiyoshi in this adaption is how it reminded me of a Lady Galadriel from The Lord of the Rings. You can see her being gentle, but yet you could see her, especially when she was tempted by the Ring how hard-core she could become. Which is what I think maybe the intention was Kiyoshi was giving Aang tough love on what it means to be the Avatar.
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Some epsiodes like 1 are weaker, some like this are strong as FUCK. Episodes like this make me so hopeful for the subsequent seasons. They have what they need to build the show on
The people who complain is just ungrateful
Remember those two old ladies saying almost perfect and then Azula's like almost isn't good enough the people who are complaining sound like Azula lol
the acting could be better bro be fr
we not hating , the actors albeit very young, arent the best
What a weird point of view. Should we prostrate ourselves before Netflix and thank them for bestowing a TV show upon us?
Art can and should be viewed critically.
We are paying for it, what do you mean ungrateful? Should I be grateful to the supermarkets for providing garbage food aswell?
These corporate slaves are insane.@@StinkyBuster
I don't think you should worry about spoilers. Anyone watching your reaction surely would have seen the cartoon already.
Kyoshi is a beast
Kyoshi is avatar prime
I wonder if we'll get a Korra liveaction when they're done with the entire Aang story
This shows good in its own right the haters just want to hate
Mathis episode is amazing!
child I wanna know what Suki's make up remover is cause to remove that clown white Gurll it aint easy. hehehehhe
I honestly like this better than the cartoon tbh
I would love them to make a great divide filler episode just to piss off the nit picking haters 😂
Love Sukki ❤
Best looking so far ❤
"and a few reflections off a statue"
some of the dialogue is so bad
Can anyone explain why the fuck is she not in a flashback?
Yo creo que los actores fueron los ideales para cada personaje, pero siento que la actriz de katara era algo apagada, como si estuviera algo desanimada a comparacion de la version animada, aang nada que decir, un 10 perfecto, mismo carisma, y muy expresivo. Como acotacion personal cre que en cuanto a temperamente y caracter de cada personaje, por supuesto es posible imitar, en cambio lo que es algo mas dificil es imitar los estilos de peleas tal como en la serie animada pero los efectos especiales se lograron muy bien en cada elemento, a comparacion de la pelicula del ultimo maestro aire
Is Pudgey Māori?
A lot of people are saying this is the scroll from the pirates.. my question is where was katara learning the basics in the cartoon? she can still get a scroll with more advanced moves from the pirates.
Surprised you're liking it this much, wish I could say the same. There are some decent visuals, but I can't get past the cringe and some of the casting. Dialogue and acting is incredibly rough. But hey, if you're enjoying it, good on ya.
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вы крутые!!! :*
There's litteraly just one problem with this channel, and i say that with love. It's the sound of your intros and outros. It's an earsore 10 decibels higher than your speaking volume that acts as an electrochoc and makes me wince/jolt, especially in the end. I hope i'm not gonna become public enemy number one for stating this.
You guys need to react to one piece live action its so good!!!
we have! it's on the channel
@@SpartanandPudgey oohh I just saw it !!
Nah they made Suki so dirty, man. Like the actress resembles her and she does a good job, and the makeup and costume are very accurate but the writers made her dirty. This was arguably the best couple in the original and they make me cringe in the LA.
eipsode 1-2 and 7-8 are the best. the mid of the series is meh
yea no this show is bad.. visuals and effects are good but oh boi the writing, dialogues and acting is atrocious..
awful acting. wooden, clunky exposition. shit show.
The absolute worst episode.
Cry more
Absolutely one of the best
definitely not
The absolute best episode. Cry more kid
@JrE-il7cf Womp womp