I would say his based "I'm not a reactionary fuck" side. What a suprise, media can be enjoyed despite your reactionarytoober chud screaming for 4 hours about it being evil
@@BoleDaPole wow it’s almost like works of fiction have always existed and used the characters to portray heroism & acts of good deeds and perseverance as a way to inspire and motivate people, crazy idea I know.
That is true. It didn't need the following two. But i do still think this one is great. Crystal Skull, well, i loved it at 15 years of age when it was in the cinema and i haven't watched it since. But it does have all the trappings 2005+ era of overexcited, less-would-have-been-more-cinema. This one mostly consists of a prolongued car chase, but that's ok for me. Not the best Indi movie for sure. Not one we'd have needed. But also not one i would exclude from an Indiana Jones Marathon.
They basically had to re-shoot the whole film after it bombed with test audiences. As many as 4 cuts were rumored to be pre-screened. How do you think they spent $300 million dollars on it? Lol
@USSMariner That rumor is definitely fake, it got multiple plot points wrong. It claimed Helena was Marcus Brody's granddaughter which is obviously wrong.
I don't understand this thing where people say "it's good that it has a definitive ending to the character," maybe because it's better than Crystal Skull. Okay, why do we need three definitive endings? It ended with Last Crusade already. Saying it's better than the second redundant ending (which a lot of people don't even agree with) is pointless.
I dont know in Indiana Jones 4, he got married, he got a son, he made a family, and now he is so broken and without son and divorced, this movie its worse than 4 because they broke Indy s character and his legacy completly. Fuck Disney and Lucasfilm, they deserve bankrupcy
That's my biggest problem with the movie. It's not bad, but The Last Crusade was the ending, these two after that just feel like a stretch even if they have good traits.
The first 15 minutes of this movie really feel like an Indie movie and until that point I would agree it is much better than Chrystal Skull. But afterwards it gets much, much worse. So overall I wouldn't really rate it better. Not worse either I think they are pretty much on the same level of bad.
i saw a comment in his video about Millenial Writing that perfectly sums this up, the comment quoted Billy Joel who once said "I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary." people are so completely starved of actual quality writing in things like movies and video games that the second something has even a smudge of effort put into it they praise it as some sort of masterpiece, when really its usually just ok. For example, look at "Everything, Everywhere, all at once". Now dont get me wrong, the movie is pretty solid and I had an decent time watching it, as did many other people, solid 6-7/10 movie, but HOLY FUCK did people overhype it to death, they made it seem like it was the sci-fi equivalent of the Godfather or something.
Most of this review (not all of it) comes off less as a “This movie is great” and more as “It’s not that bad. At least not as bad as the star wars sequel movies”
@@MrBoooneAnd what are you doing? Crying because Phoebe Waller Bridge won't bed you? You're the biggest clown here. I see you responding to every single negative comment. What? You think Disney will hire you if you simp hard enough? You think the billion dollar conglomerate needs your support? You feel bad for the pdf files running Disney? Is that it? Oh, boo hoo. Cry me a river.
The deaging i'll give credit too, since that worked pretty well. But that must have been where all the budget went because the rest of the CGI made this look like the Brendan Fraser mummy films.
You deflected about the reshoots and leaks debacle but failed to mention that this movie has been in production for like 6 years and has been set back for release multiple times... Because they did have negative feedback and did have to reshoot. They wouldn't have without the prior pushback from the leaks. Bro way to hand wave away a huge part of the film...
Very funny you makes this in 'Oh well it's just nerds getting upset over media made for kids lol!'... dude your whole channel is about Halo: A video game franchise that is mostly played by teens/kids... believe it or not those are the ones who have the time to invest in stuff like games. It's also a contrived film with a very humorless secondary actress that is supposed to carry the torch. Many issues get resolved because 'Oh I remembered the important bits' or because of some other stupid coincidences from her. And there's a lot. You admit it wasn't a very funny film but there's too many times where things are delivered as a joke and they fall absolutely flat. Your thesis is that this movie is actually good. But it's not. It has some good parts maybe.. but it's filled with terrible humor and plot issues. Just admit you're a fan and that it. You don't care about any actual fucking 'good' or 'bad' things nor what makes said films either option just your first watch through opinion of the film. Unconvincing and contradictory evidence bucko. Video: 4/10 not a huge cope but still an effort was made. You try to hedge some bets with some weasely words 'its a good movie with some flaws'... Ok how many and how important are they? If the main character beats the bad guy with a weapon that he pulled out of his ass in a serious movie where he never had the weapon nor was there one mentioned the whole time - then that's a pretty huge flaw and ruins an otherwise good movie. It becomes mediocre or even bad depending on how big of an ass pull it was. Please think more about this.
To be fair, delays might imply reshoots, but it doesn't necessarily prove the existence of reshoots. Without further information, there could've been any reason for the delays. For all we know, they could've been stuck in pre-production for much of that time, I guess it just depends on how much faith you'd want to put into these leaks. Like he said near the end of the video, he thinks that the drama of Indy being shot might imply a change in the making of the film, and I myself would say that the resolution where Helena drags Indy back to the present makes me suspect that there was a rewrite. Even still, I don't think any of this is per se nota, we're still in the realm of guesswork.
@@TharcThuncBa but if you know how Disney does films and how they started making them recently you'd know they do what's called 'scrap booking' which is essentially like making 5 different movies to stitch scenes together from anyone of them according to audience approval. I bet that maybe if not reshoots heavy scrap booking was involved in this project
I've heard here and there that the movie isn't as bad as what some people have said, but Disney/Lucasfilm hasn't exactly been endearing itself to the public for the past several years. Also, one of the major questions I've heard people bring up about the film is, who was it made for? I think its failure at the box office isn't so much a case of people being actively against the studio, so much as simply indifferent towards the characters and premise. How many young people did they think were going to want to see an 81-year-old man hobbling around in front of a green screen for three hours? The film's budget clearly depended on more than just old-school fans going to see it, and therefore it was doomed from the very start.
Well, considering America "elected" and has been fine with an 80 year old man hobbling around the white house while he's supposed to be representing the country, I think people will be fine with an 81 year old hobbling around a green screen for a movie...
As sad as it I feel like less than half of the people in my generation either like or honestly even know a lot about Indiana Jones, which is fucking bad given that I'm a zoomer. Indiana Jones just isn't really culturally relevant anymore, at least not in a way that warrants the inflated budget the movie had.
@@alyssarichardson2544 Really most people I've seen have been complaining about the elderly being in charge of America. Especially the younger people are complaining about living under a gerontocracy. And it does have very negative effects on society.
It’s a little funny you’re able to provide examples of the exact theory “old heroes being deconstructed” while dismissing the idea and I also want to point out the example you showed ALSO involved KK so…
If they replaced Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character with Ke Huy Quan as an older Short Round, I would have liked the movie way more. People like Short Round. Nobody likes Helena Shaw.
@@MrBooone A wild Male Feminist appeared! Ever thought women want to see women using their femininity - intelligence, charm, seduction (you know, the "powers" we actually have?) and that we find depicting women as men as patronizing at best? It's outright insulting, yet here you are, the classic male feminist cheering on the "strong-woman" despite women actually despising that nonsense... Femininity isn't depicted as strength, it depicts women simply being men that suck at pull-ups or absolute Mary Sues.
If you watch it again, there are many very obvious explanations. For example, there’s a speed of attached to Renaldo’s fishing boat, which is what Voller and his crew use to get to Sicily
@@astropictures4396 no I mean literally the bad guy just turns up & is in the exact right place at the right time every time, just because the plot needs to move forward, it’s ridiculous and sloppy.
@@Thedinosaurman923 in every poorly written movie perhaps, maybe you should watch better movies that aren’t just plot convenience after plot convenience.
I can't agree that the bomb noose and the ark are simmilar Throughout the movie the ark is hyped up and there are warnings about tampering with the supernatural, powers you don't understand, the villains even mock it as superstition and then get their comeuppance while indy and Marion are spared because they believe it and close their eyes, it's not a deus ex it's a payoff The bomb is pure dumb luck, from it not exploding on impact to indy somehow surviving the explosion or being flung around with a noose on his neck like a ragdoll
The movie is trying to not be "woke" but it seems someone at disney (cough cough Cathleen) wanted to disneyfy the movie. You can see her magical let's kill off people's favorite and replace them with Phoebe touch all over the movie.
@hakimehamdouchi7468 I'd say shitting on the main character for a strong, independent female character, is the epitome of woke. I know ShreddedNerd doesn't agree that Indy is disrespected throughout the movie or that PWB isn't a girlboss "modern female" character, but I and many other people, would have to disagree. I'd just ask people one question regarding this movie: "Could you see this getting made exactly the same way it is, back in 2003?" It REEKS of "made to appeal to modern audiences" crap. Did we all watch the same movie here?
@@MarvinPowell1 yeah but It's better than what it could have been. At the very least there's some semblance of a character arc with PWB and send off to one og character.
The only thing I didn’t like about the movie is that they killed Mutt. It just makes it depressing when the hero has no offspring to pass the torch to. Not that Mutt should be the next Indy but it could have been implied that he grew up to be like his dad.
Honestly my only real problem with the ending is that Helena knocks him out when in other movies she would have had to convince him or have him come to his own realization
@@Ares_gaming_117 it's almost like female characters that understand their physical limitations and rely on things like intelligence and hard work would be awesome for women to see, as opposed to 50kg women simply replacing men. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo series broke my suspension of disbelief. A 5'2, 47kg woman beating the shit out of 3 bikers (who are assumed to be brutes who've killed men with their bare hands) just made me cringe and zone out... and that was BEFORE the modern Captain Marvel 🙄
@@alyssarichardson2544 Oh yeah, i couldnt agree more. Havent seen girl with dragon tattoo but yeah these modern movies where these tiny girls are easily bashing multiple huge trained men, taking their hands and flipping them around like they are rag dolls are totally rediculous lol. And yeah it takes you out of the movie because we all know how those fights would go. But yeah its also sad that women dont get to see more realistic and intelligently portrayed female characters and role models. Ones that use intellect, cunning, manipulation or stealth to compensate for physical disadvantages. Why show a competent but realistic female heroine stealthing around and dealing with threats in very creative ways when she can just easliy bash thru multiple guys 2x-3x her size without breaking a sweat? Its lazy, uninspired and, essentially, its misleading propaganda.
"Star Wars will never be deep" Oh boy, even pre-2010s era of Star Wars medias would prove you wrong, especially in video games and some better bits of Extended Universe departments (take it there's some dogturds yet it have a lot of cool stuffs for Star Wars lore)
This. Star Wars explored a lot deep philosophical issues, just not in the movies. I will always remember one of my favorite quotes from the books, when Han Solo's son (the real one, not the Adam Driver knockoff) is in a situation where he doesn't know what to do because his Jedi teachings don't apply to a moral grey area: “When you always know what is right, where is freedom? No one chooses the wrong, Jacen Solo. Uncertainty sets you free."
@@Ares_gaming_117No, the most subversive thing in Star Wars being of The Ancients (which one of their members eventually become Abeloth) and Kreia tried to detach as much as humanity and sentient beings in her Galaxy from the grip of The Force's influences itself Rian Johnson only flawed pale imitation of subversion of Star Wars only on superficial level without in depth understanding of its Cosmology, Chronology, History, Anthropology and ultimate metaphysics of Star Wars The older "Legends"/Extended Universe lore tries to explore these aspects of Star Wars in various media yeaaars before Disney acquisition and views it from multiple perspectives in somber, darker and not holding up with the fantastical aspects, while mercilessly grounded if both violence and philosophy being questioned akin to Clone Wars to KOTOR2 (back then Star Wars lore has things going up to toe to toe with current entanglingnmessfest of Warhammer 40k lore, which have their own problems with consistency yet the authenticity somehow are more preserved than whatever the hell Disney's Star Wars does in the past 7-8 years to this day)
“…adults getting mad at movies and TV Shows for 7 year olds” > She-Hulk was literally about an adulterous leach of a girl boss who openly sexually harasses men with her Hulk form Either ShreddedNerd is saying all this about Indy and the overall Disney stuff coming out purely in bad faith to deposition counter-arguments… …or he’s being a contrarian. Either way, different strokes 🤷🏽♂️
3rd option: he didn’t watch ishe-hulk, openly admits it, and makes a joke about the face value of it while also joking about him reviewing a movie for teenage boys.
I actually thought this was an ironic video. But no, you're actually being serious here. No; the film ITSELF is dogshit. It's poorly written, has a crap story, and treats Indy horribly. It's bad completely independent of the Kathleen Kennedy hate.
Many people who really like a certain book/movie etc are unable to consider its downfall. I have a Tolkien fan friend who is unable to see anything Tolkien related as bad, including Rings of Power and the recent Magick tcg thing.
@@EteraRPGas I just edited into my comment. He hasn't made a based take since his iron sights video. He spends more time live making commentary podcasts with his friends. I come here for game reviews and commentary on why video game suck now. I never thought about a based card in general
@@Gator159 To be fair, "based" just means sticking to your own opinions and being true to who you are, despite what the greater public would think. I don't agree with a single thing he said here, but it is rather "based" to have such an unpopular opinion. With that said though, I still downvoted the video, cause I just think he's letting his fanboyism blind him to an objectively bad movie. It'd be like defending The Rise of Skywalker because you've seen the original trilogy 18 times.
@@MarvinPowell1 looking back he has had good videos after the iron sights thing. Like millennial writing video and the downfall of Halo. I found the Halo killer video to be boring (maybe that was the point lol) But yeah, my mistake I just am distracted because how much I don't care for his skills as a level modding person like when he made the Doom layout in Halo. I said it looks like shit and his fanboys come in to defend it so then I get tempted to unsubscribe because fanboys who love a RUclipsr makes that RUclipsr look worse off like they don't need me anymore
So basically it's not that it's a bad film, merely a somewhat mediocre one that has few if any real redeeming qualities. A significant portion of this review highits something important: a lot of your "praise" for it essentially boils down to "here's how the movie could have been way worse, but thankfully they didn't do that" which is pretty telling. I'm not suggesting that's wrong to point out but it does speak volumes of how little in the film is actually noteworthy and worth praising, and instead it's pretty much just "not as bad as it could have been." Yes, it could have been worse. Thankfully it wasn't a terrible film that forever tarnished the legacy of Jones as a capstone to the series, as yet another property that Disney ruined. But it also could have been a lot better. At this point if Disney didn't make it an absolute knockout that would genuinely surprise people with real quality that they honestly liked, then people were always going to hate it. Audiences are done giving Disney any money for anything less than a stellar product. People and reviews have gotten sick of it all, and a movie that's "just okay" is not going to win them back.
You went from making a banger video about terrible writing to this garbage video defending an objectively terrible film. The pacing, the editing, the plot contrivance, the bad cgi (lol young indy with old indy voice), the nostalgia bait, that ending... It's all terrible.
@@Sgto.Wolvington yeah I was saying the opposite, he says the buzzword like it's some sort of made up extremist ideology when it's an objective fact that 90% of hollywood and 1000% of disney is garbage right now, it's not an "anti-disney sentiment" the movies are all bad
@@blondeboi2132yes its that bad. Dont know what hapend to The author of this vídeo but this IS just puré nonesense. Indy 5 its worse than 4. Its just a terrible cash grab
Ngl I don't really ever understand the reason of getting genuinely mad at a bad movie like a lot of weird culture war people do. The only bad movie that ever genuinely pissed me off was Thor Love and Thunder just due to me recently losing a loved one to cancer and the movie repeatedly making shitty Marvel jokes about it, though I fully admit that's kinda an anomaly and not everyone would or should be upset at that.
Looking at the top comments here... I appreciate how fairly you approached this. I've often seen people "go the extra mile" with their takes when I would've otherwise agreed with them, as if they needed to prove how based they are. You did not. Honesty is sufficient. Some feel compelled to voice their opinion on every new piece of garbage media, opinions which although not incorrect aren't necessary; it's much better to avoid thinking about trash altogether. Such complaining is endemic to Twitter, and makes it easy to figure who uses Twitter based on what is brought up in conversation. I won't watch the movie either way, as I have no need for it. But this video was good; this cool-headedness is rare nowadays. Have a good one. Zellig is coal, I hope Amsterdam sinks under the sea and gets gumped by Atlantians.
Wow bro, stay conspiracy chud pilled for life, go eat up your reactionary KK bad Miss Marvel slop by the quartering, spiteful and salty in your basement
Pretty ironic I subscribed after the "Millennial Writing" video, and now we're doing a complete 180 heel turn running damage-control for Disney like some sort of vapid dime-a-dozen mainstream journalist. Seriously, this is the kind of take I'd expect from literally any channel but yours. What a shame. Hope the contrarian clickbait was worth it. Unsubbed.
Nice to see I wasn't wrong when I realized that Shredded built up a viewer base of reactionary chuds that turn on him the moment he says he likes something that their chud of the week made a 3 hour rant video on
This was not a good movie. "Let's ruin Indy's life so we can put him back together with Marian again." Mangold talking out his ass that he wrote a great script that demanded a 5th Indiana Jones movie be made was the most idiotic thing I have ever heard a creative say. It was a cash grab Mangold. Your ego wasn't the reason the movie was made.
There are definitely people who went in trying to hate it because it's woke, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who went in trying to prove those people wrong and be contrarian. Even if you're annoyed at the culture war stuff, if you went in with the objective of figuring out how it's not culture war related, you're also biased. There are certainly people in the middle like myself who were cautious and just decided not to see it because it didn't sound good, and the culture war videos were just a means to figuring that out. Getting past old depressed Indy and Phoebe, it sounded like all the action setpieces, which are what you watch these movies for, were simple repetitive vehicle chases. "Well, what do you expect? He's old!" Okay then, don't make the movie! The movie bombed. If it were actually good, it could have generated good word of mouth and become really big, but it didn't. Anti-woke people or not.
"If it were actually good, it could have generated good word of mouth and become really big", yeah like if good movies were inherently anti-flop lmao. The two Blade Runners, Donnie Darko and even The Thing (1982) were all big flops
@@juromori There's an appetite for good action movies with an emphasis on star power and stunts, as we see with Tom Cruise's recent movies. Indiana Jones isn't something esoteric or difficult or high concept, it's pure action adventure.
@@juromori It's not about "letting" anything, it's about having fun at the movies. With Indiana Jones, I think the potential could be there if Harrison Ford were a little younger and the movie were more ambitious. The originals being from the 80s clearly doesn't matter. It's not a big stretch to say that people who like Ghostbusters, Top Gun, or pieces of new Star Wars would also show up for Indiana Jones if their coworkers or friends or family told them it was good.
@@TheMinskyTerroristit's definitely a stretch to think just word of mouth can save every good movie. There are many important factors related to the success or failure of a movie, not just quality. The video above actually talks about some of them, you should watch it.
When you as the legendary franchise main lead is being carried by other character, you should know that you have to hang it up. Title's "Indiana Jones" when it's Phoebe Waller Bridge carrying the whole movie
I'm ngl, I'd love it if the franchise just ended with the upcoming Indiana Jones game they announced back in 2021. But only if the game is good that is
>I'm not getting many clicks and I'm Tired of Pretending it's Not clickbait Fixed that for you friend. I bet you also love Indiana part 4 and the new star wars movies. Did you know they've been doing disney live action remakes? They're straight 🔥 right up your alley. There's this new show it's kind of hard to catch but it's called Willow and you would just love the "milk" that he gives you.
I didn't watch Crystal Skull or this one and basically consider the franchise done after the trilogy, so I can't say I have any dog in the fight. I do respect the dedication to making a 29 minute video essay and taking a devil's advocate position on reviewing the film though, so I hope the dislike ratio and comments don't get to you too much.
The movie is completely Era accurate in depicting Phoebe Bridges character as some pretty lady who steals the attention of a whole room of men. 60's beauty standards where insanely 4/10. She'd cook in that Era, as a femme Fatale
People hate successor characters who haven’t earned their status or to be liked by the audience, they’re just better than the original character in every way & you as an audience member just have to accept that they’re better in every way without the personality or connection over the years with the character.
@SaraNorman-lv6cu yeah i was being a bit facetious lol. I actually wouldnt be opposed to seeing it. And im sure it can be enjoyable. I just dont know if im invested in indy enough as a series to have the will to go see it, esp if i cant get others to see it with. And considering the other movies out id rather see first like mission impossible & barbenheimer. But I might give it a shot then, thanks
I don't know, I feel like its weird not having Steven Spielberg make the film, maybe i will give it a shot in the future but i love the first three so much i think i have seen each like 7 times
You know, I have the same feeling like you do here in your video. With The Matrix Resurrections. People unloaded so much shit on it, that I was thinking it is the same trash as the third Star Wars Trilogy is(of which I only seen Episode 7) and I was pleasant surprised how good Matrix 4 actually is. Considered the fact that the storyline of the Matrix Trilogy is finished, there is nothing you could add to it, save the fact that the fate of Neo and Trinity was left open in part three. The Matrix Resurrections makes it look like the whole Matrix Trilogy is made up, a story in a Video Game of all things. Seeing it's ending I felt like they might have been put into the matrix in order for the physical damage both sustained at the end of Matrix 3 being healed, and while in there their minds experience another adventure, which was fine for he most part. The movie was not a "waste of time" to watch, though it didn't have had much to do with the original Trilogy.
"Its certainly better than Crystal Skull" is not very high praises, bud. And how is this a definitive cap-off to the franize? We've had two of those already. Theres literally no reason to believe they wont do this again in 10 years if Ford is still alive needs money.
Thank you for pointing out The Bourne Identity and Taken as that switch in style for action films, I've long thought the same re: the films that kicked it off.
It's okay. Better than I expected it to be, but by no means a masterpiece. I don't mind Indy growing old and taking on a different kind of role. But I hated the new characters. I don't mind Indy chasing some weird ass time travel device. Not my favorite mcguffin, but it ended up being fun. The last 10 mins or so was a good time even though it was kind of silly. Overall, it was okay.
@@omarsabir1210 no one is saying Indiana Jones is high art cinema. The point is that people are too engrossed with culture war bullshit to appreciate a fun movie for what it is, and instead try to look at it through the """political""" angle.
I know this isn't related to the main topic of the video but "Star Wars shouldn't be deep" is such a bad take. Look at Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars, Rebels, and of course ANDOR But of course you probably haven't seen most of those so....
Thank you for bringing up cinematography/cuts. Too many cuts or too much shaking camera is disorienting and immersion breaking, because I can't see what's happening. Long-ish, stable, continuous shots that aren't too close nor too far does make it immersive. Band of Brothers is the only show/movie I've seen that does shaky camera correctly. But that isn't to say continuous shots can't be overused. A videogame I saw not too long ago had continuous shots with shaky camera and funny angles, because they were trying to mimic Red Dead 2. It was so frustrating.
"Anti-Disney sentiment" You say that like it's a bad thing. If you were as much of a fan of star wars as you were an indie fan, you'd be shitting on them a lot more in this vid. People simply don't like the fact that this multi-fucking-billion dollar company can't make one actually great original piece of media, and yet still makes enough money to buy the rights to something that should have died long ago just so they can puppeteer it's corpse around for a couple more years. So they don't have to take any risks making something original. People have every right to hate this company and almost anything associated with it.
Redditors when they see an opinion not authorised by their favourite psychopath reactionary youtuber or their fellow brainlets on their subreddit of choice.
@@caramelldansen2204 ew youre one of *those* huh? Hilarious how specific you got, bet you nail everbody and know everything lol And I'm pretty sure me pretending the video doesn't exist is the opposite of what they'd do but go off I guess
@@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-. Which "one of those" are you talking about? What's the reactionary punching bag nowadays, still jews? Gays? Women? I've lost track.
Biggest issue with this movie and Crystal Skull is that they "ignore" tv series in which Indiana Jones has a daughter, grandchildren and Greatgrandchildren. Tv series is about earliest days of Indiana Jones and Indiana tells that to his granddaughter.
I appreciate the attempt at breaking the mold. I think the review could have used some more organization. Much of it feels like a response video to no one in particular. I've seen several critical breakdowns of this movie that cover the issues with its writing in great detail, so I've feel like I've got a good point of reference after seeing both sides. To describe the experience, it's like reading a few reviews of a table that go over how its legs are uneven, its surface gives people splinters, and it collapses under more than 10 pounds of weight. Then you read this review that says, "I've seen people saying this table has fewer than four legs. It's just not true. The legs might be uneven, but there are four of them." The number of legs on the table isn't what convinced me it's a bad table, and the review even partly agrees with the reviews that convinced me. It makes it difficult to be convinced in the other direction. I also find it unconvincing that people who review the film poorly were simply hoping for it to be bad. Bulverism aside, the example RUclips title in this video stating this movie was destined to flop was from The Critical Drinker, who has reversed his perspective several times after watching a movie or show despite expecting it to be bad or underwhelming. It happened with Prey, Arcane, Andor, Picard season 3, and House of the Dragon, to give the most recent examples. This is also true for many in Drinker's circle, which is why I find it hard to believe. I don't take issue with the claim that the movie is good, and I'm sure you're responding to arguments you've actually heard. The main issue I see is that the arguments you are attacking are weak, which make your counterarguments feel weak. The most convincing "actually this movie is good' videos I've seen are the ones that tackle the strongest arguments.
I did not like this movie, and this series needed to end with Indy riding into the sunset. I don't think the people who made this or crystal skull understood Indiana Jones.
I still don't get the hate on the 4th movie. I get it it had it's downs, but i still think it was just just two much of a change for many fans from the spiritual aspect to the aliens. And Mutt wasn't a bad character, he was a bit annoying at first, but he showed later he has potential and despite his rebellious act, he could show respect for those who deserve it. And if nothing else i do think the ending of it should be considered a good ending. All movies had a happy ending that made sure Indy will have a good life if you see him again in the next movie. Despite his age, the forth movie showed him living in the same cozy suburban house, being a respected professor at the college, and by the end he was associate dean. Then supposedly 2 years later he was fired, since in DOD he has been working at this new midass school for 10 years and there's 12 years between 4 and 5. They killed off Mutt, who was anti authority and pretty sure not a fan of going abroad killing people for the government. His Marriage Failing is something that i can believe, but don't know why try it for a 3rd time then and break them up again. Why would it be a Happy ending that they try it for a 4th time? Because they are so old they will die before they can separate again? But my main problem was really his job. Taking the shitty subway to his shitty job, where nobody cares about his lecture and he hates his life. Luke's downfall was stupid, i mean the reasoning behind trying to kill a kid for sensing darkness in them. But Indy's downfall felt so rushed. His apartment also a big wtf, why is he living there? He sold his apartment? He moved out and Marion took it? Then if they get back together why not have him wake up there? So Many WHY's And No Because's...
Havent seen the film so I cant give a full take, but I will say the Ark in the first Indiana Jones film was built up over the course of the movie as something that could be potentially dangerous. Ex: near the middle of the film when they’re in Egypt, one character says that the Ark was something that “mankind was not meant to disturb”
This but with the dnd movie. I wasn't even thinking the movie was woke when I was watching most of the time, people say the male protag is stepped by the female warrior but nobody talks about how he started awful BECAUSE HE WAS THE MC SO HE NEEDED THE MOST EXTREME CHARACTER ARC.
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ShreddedNerd's evil twin is the one posting this video, MuscularGeek
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I would say his based "I'm not a reactionary fuck" side. What a suprise, media can be enjoyed despite your reactionarytoober chud screaming for 4 hours about it being evil
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Adult Short Round fighting Chinese communists sound badass ngl
Honestly best idea I've heard. 1960s China with old man Indie and older Short Round.
It’s one of those things where people are tired of their heroes being made into depressing old men, and Phoebe Waller Bridge.
hollywood propaganda on how they want men to be, sad lonely and old
This
The sooner people stop making heros out of fictional movie characters and Hollywood actors the better off they'll be.
@@BoleDaPole wow it’s almost like works of fiction have always existed and used the characters to portray heroism & acts of good deeds and perseverance as a way to inspire and motivate people, crazy idea I know.
@@BoleDaPolereal people are too shitty and two faced to look up to
The Last Crusade was the best ending for the franchise.
Because it was just "they ride off into the sunset to have many more adventures."
That is true. It didn't need the following two. But i do still think this one is great.
Crystal Skull, well, i loved it at 15 years of age when it was in the cinema and i haven't watched it since. But it does have all the trappings 2005+ era of overexcited, less-would-have-been-more-cinema.
This one mostly consists of a prolongued car chase, but that's ok for me. Not the best Indi movie for sure. Not one we'd have needed. But also not one i would exclude from an Indiana Jones Marathon.
The ending is so scuffed, it would not be surprising that it was a quick re-shoot from the original rumor
John Williams confirmed it
Yeah it literally is. Indy literally died in the original cut.
They basically had to re-shoot the whole film after it bombed with test audiences. As many as 4 cuts were rumored to be pre-screened. How do you think they spent $300 million dollars on it? Lol
@USSMariner That rumor is definitely fake, it got multiple plot points wrong. It claimed Helena was Marcus Brody's granddaughter which is obviously wrong.
Didn't the director state that there wasn't any test screenings?
I don't understand this thing where people say "it's good that it has a definitive ending to the character," maybe because it's better than Crystal Skull. Okay, why do we need three definitive endings? It ended with Last Crusade already. Saying it's better than the second redundant ending (which a lot of people don't even agree with) is pointless.
I dont know in Indiana Jones 4, he got married, he got a son, he made a family, and now he is so broken and without son and divorced, this movie its worse than 4 because they broke Indy s character and his legacy completly.
Fuck Disney and Lucasfilm, they deserve bankrupcy
You see this piece of shit that retreads the themes of indie aging is slightly better than the last piece of shot that did that. So applause
That's my biggest problem with the movie. It's not bad, but The Last Crusade was the ending, these two after that just feel like a stretch even if they have good traits.
Crystal Skull was good.
witty side character: Erm... so *THAT* just happened
i just ovulated with soy
I swear to you, I have never seen this happen in a modern movie ever
@@simoneidson21I see it more in games tbh
The first 15 minutes of this movie really feel like an Indie movie and until that point I would agree it is much better than Chrystal Skull. But afterwards it gets much, much worse. So overall I wouldn't really rate it better. Not worse either I think they are pretty much on the same level of bad.
"Not So bad" wow what a great movie it must be then lmao
Wow bro, real constructive, I'm certain you've watched a ton of movies you deemed "not so bad" and that not being a bad thing. Cope, seethe and mald
@@MrBooonebro your reddit mod is showing
@MrBooone project much? lol
Truly a ringing endorsement...
@@MrBooone you again? there's no "gold" here, this won't end with you posting "thankyou kind stranger!".
"This pile of vomit isn't a pile of shit so it's not that bad."
Film was good brother
Exactly! Just because it “wasn’t that bad” doesn’t mean it was good. We shouldn’t be praising or normalizing mediocrity.
i saw a comment in his video about Millenial Writing that perfectly sums this up, the comment quoted Billy Joel who once said "I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary." people are so completely starved of actual quality writing in things like movies and video games that the second something has even a smudge of effort put into it they praise it as some sort of masterpiece, when really its usually just ok. For example, look at "Everything, Everywhere, all at once". Now dont get me wrong, the movie is pretty solid and I had an decent time watching it, as did many other people, solid 6-7/10 movie, but HOLY FUCK did people overhype it to death, they made it seem like it was the sci-fi equivalent of the Godfather or something.
Most of this review (not all of it) comes off less as a “This movie is great” and more as “It’s not that bad. At least not as bad as the star wars sequel movies”
SW got violated and murdered. It was a deliberetd attack. It's not surprising it's "not as bad as SW sequels".
@@EteraRPGit is a bit of a bar to reach
They only did one Indie movie. Star Wars got bulldozed flat into 50 different things and then was quartered and drawn by 50 horses.
He literally said that at the beginning
But the thumbnail was dishonest though.
@@andrewlynch4126
"Guys this turd isn't *THAT* bad. Look, there's nuggets of corn in this one!"
anime profile pic, pls you're one to talk
@@MrBooone hurr durr anime amirite?
@@samueldawkins hur dur movie reactionaries cry about for 3 hours amirite?
@@MrBoooneAnd what are you doing? Crying because Phoebe Waller Bridge won't bed you?
You're the biggest clown here. I see you responding to every single negative comment.
What? You think Disney will hire you if you simp hard enough? You think the billion dollar conglomerate needs your support? You feel bad for the pdf files running Disney? Is that it?
Oh, boo hoo. Cry me a river.
@@MrBooone Sperging out and leaving reddit-tier responses on every top comment makes you look totally not mad, by the way.
Lol, you know the copium is strong when the best thing you can say about a film is "it wasn't that bad".
He also endorsed the Girl Boss character for not being a Mary Sue, I hope this entire review is satire!
Glad the dude doesn't suffer from audience capture
The deaging i'll give credit too, since that worked pretty well. But that must have been where all the budget went because the rest of the CGI made this look like the Brendan Fraser mummy films.
What most films are mediocre. It’s more trustworthy for him to complain that the movie’s the worst it’s ever been? You’re absurd
The telltale sign of copium is when someone leaves the theater and says "that was fun"
You deflected about the reshoots and leaks debacle but failed to mention that this movie has been in production for like 6 years and has been set back for release multiple times... Because they did have negative feedback and did have to reshoot. They wouldn't have without the prior pushback from the leaks. Bro way to hand wave away a huge part of the film...
Very funny you makes this in 'Oh well it's just nerds getting upset over media made for kids lol!'... dude your whole channel is about Halo: A video game franchise that is mostly played by teens/kids... believe it or not those are the ones who have the time to invest in stuff like games.
It's also a contrived film with a very humorless secondary actress that is supposed to carry the torch. Many issues get resolved because 'Oh I remembered the important bits' or because of some other stupid coincidences from her. And there's a lot. You admit it wasn't a very funny film but there's too many times where things are delivered as a joke and they fall absolutely flat.
Your thesis is that this movie is actually good. But it's not. It has some good parts maybe.. but it's filled with terrible humor and plot issues. Just admit you're a fan and that it. You don't care about any actual fucking 'good' or 'bad' things nor what makes said films either option just your first watch through opinion of the film.
Unconvincing and contradictory evidence bucko. Video: 4/10 not a huge cope but still an effort was made. You try to hedge some bets with some weasely words 'its a good movie with some flaws'... Ok how many and how important are they? If the main character beats the bad guy with a weapon that he pulled out of his ass in a serious movie where he never had the weapon nor was there one mentioned the whole time - then that's a pretty huge flaw and ruins an otherwise good movie. It becomes mediocre or even bad depending on how big of an ass pull it was. Please think more about this.
To be fair, delays might imply reshoots, but it doesn't necessarily prove the existence of reshoots. Without further information, there could've been any reason for the delays. For all we know, they could've been stuck in pre-production for much of that time, I guess it just depends on how much faith you'd want to put into these leaks. Like he said near the end of the video, he thinks that the drama of Indy being shot might imply a change in the making of the film, and I myself would say that the resolution where Helena drags Indy back to the present makes me suspect that there was a rewrite. Even still, I don't think any of this is per se nota, we're still in the realm of guesswork.
@@TharcThuncBa but if you know how Disney does films and how they started making them recently you'd know they do what's called 'scrap booking' which is essentially like making 5 different movies to stitch scenes together from anyone of them according to audience approval. I bet that maybe if not reshoots heavy scrap booking was involved in this project
I've heard here and there that the movie isn't as bad as what some people have said, but Disney/Lucasfilm hasn't exactly been endearing itself to the public for the past several years. Also, one of the major questions I've heard people bring up about the film is, who was it made for? I think its failure at the box office isn't so much a case of people being actively against the studio, so much as simply indifferent towards the characters and premise. How many young people did they think were going to want to see an 81-year-old man hobbling around in front of a green screen for three hours? The film's budget clearly depended on more than just old-school fans going to see it, and therefore it was doomed from the very start.
Well, considering America "elected" and has been fine with an 80 year old man hobbling around the white house while he's supposed to be representing the country, I think people will be fine with an 81 year old hobbling around a green screen for a movie...
As sad as it I feel like less than half of the people in my generation either like or honestly even know a lot about Indiana Jones, which is fucking bad given that I'm a zoomer. Indiana Jones just isn't really culturally relevant anymore, at least not in a way that warrants the inflated budget the movie had.
@@alyssarichardson2544 Really most people I've seen have been complaining about the elderly being in charge of America. Especially the younger people are complaining about living under a gerontocracy. And it does have very negative effects on society.
It’s a little funny you’re able to provide examples of the exact theory “old heroes being deconstructed” while dismissing the idea and I also want to point out the example you showed ALSO involved KK so…
Bro, touch grass, the old movies still exist, sad characters CAN exist
@@MrBooone lmao exactly
"Dial of Destiny is goo-ACK"
"It has a strong, independent wom-ACK!"
If you have a different opinion than me I WILL use my thought terminating internet buzzword. Don’t mess with me buddy
@@mannhouse8014 will never be a real woman award
If they replaced Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character with Ke Huy Quan as an older Short Round, I would have liked the movie way more. People like Short Round. Nobody likes Helena Shaw.
Waaaaaaah waaaaaaah women takes the lead
I liked her.
@@MrBooone A wild Male Feminist appeared! Ever thought women want to see women using their femininity - intelligence, charm, seduction (you know, the "powers" we actually have?) and that we find depicting women as men as patronizing at best? It's outright insulting, yet here you are, the classic male feminist cheering on the "strong-woman" despite women actually despising that nonsense... Femininity isn't depicted as strength, it depicts women simply being men that suck at pull-ups or absolute Mary Sues.
@@MrBooone for real, don't be a male feminist. *It's not going to get you laid, it's just creepy...*
@@MrBoooneWaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah flop at box office
There’s a ton of criticism about the actual movie, how does the bad guy teleport from place to place when the movie needs them to be there lol
If you watch it again, there are many very obvious explanations. For example, there’s a speed of attached to Renaldo’s fishing boat, which is what Voller and his crew use to get to Sicily
@@astropictures4396 no I mean literally the bad guy just turns up & is in the exact right place at the right time every time, just because the plot needs to move forward, it’s ridiculous and sloppy.
@@Thedinosaurman923 in every poorly written movie perhaps, maybe you should watch better movies that aren’t just plot convenience after plot convenience.
Is this the moment when ShreddedNerd becomes The Joker, or when he kills Critical Drinker in rage and resentment in the future? You decide!
I can't agree that the bomb noose and the ark are simmilar
Throughout the movie the ark is hyped up and there are warnings about tampering with the supernatural, powers you don't understand, the villains even mock it as superstition and then get their comeuppance while indy and Marion are spared because they believe it and close their eyes, it's not a deus ex it's a payoff
The bomb is pure dumb luck, from it not exploding on impact to indy somehow surviving the explosion or being flung around with a noose on his neck like a ragdoll
I'm still under the idea that, if no body on-screen, he ain't dead.
Congratulations! You are the ONE person this movie was made for! Enjoy it - it's all yours!
Also mine. Haters gonna hate.
@@rickyspanish4792You should delete this so the person who owns this account you hacked doesn’t get mistaken for a lobotomite.
Wow people like things! Stay mad
Nah I enjoyed it
I also enjoyed the movie.
Is this video some sort of out-of-season April Fool's joke?
he sounded pretty genuine in the video
No, this is for the people who are not feeling as if they have no choice but to agree with a popular opinion on the Internet that is wrong.
@randallrutherford1384 hey, some people like the taste of shit.
27:30 "If a franchise knows when to stop"
Well, they made 2 more movies after the franchise ended, so it indeed did not know when to stop
You're tripping bro, this thing is way worse than Crystal Skull and to say that it was "really wasn't so bad" is abhorrent
crystal skull fucking sucked so it would have to be a feat of its own for this movie to be worse
nah it was good
@@theblackandwhitedagger9064 Sure, keep telling yourself that
@@lordgaben7583 I guess I'm not allowed to enjoy a movie
@@theblackandwhitedagger9064 guess not, your words not mine
The movie is trying to not be "woke" but it seems someone at disney (cough cough Cathleen) wanted to disneyfy the movie. You can see her magical let's kill off people's favorite and replace them with Phoebe touch all over the movie.
Whose favourite did the movie kill off?
@hakimehamdouchi7468
I'd say shitting on the main character for a strong, independent female character, is the epitome of woke. I know ShreddedNerd doesn't agree that Indy is disrespected throughout the movie or that PWB isn't a girlboss "modern female" character, but I and many other people, would have to disagree.
I'd just ask people one question regarding this movie: "Could you see this getting made exactly the same way it is, back in 2003?" It REEKS of "made to appeal to modern audiences" crap. Did we all watch the same movie here?
@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation he got off easy this time yes. But sometimes death is better than a lot of other things.
@@MarvinPowell1 yeah but It's better than what it could have been. At the very least there's some semblance of a character arc with PWB and send off to one og character.
@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation there is such thing as character assassination, which is what they did to Indy a thousand times over
The only thing I didn’t like about the movie is that they killed Mutt. It just makes it depressing when the hero has no offspring to pass the torch to. Not that Mutt should be the next Indy but it could have been implied that he grew up to be like his dad.
Nah its super mid and the storytelling is objectively subpar when compared to its predecessors
Yeah but it's nowhere near as bad as the star wars sequels
@@LincolnAKAVenox star wars at least had a shot with it's first movie and rogue one, as bad as those were too, this one died on arrival.
@@LincolnAKAVenoxtrue, I liked Rogue one though, its the only movie that still captures that original feel while not trying to coast on its legacy
@@LincolnAKAVenox "Stalin was nowhere near as bad as Mao tbh"
That's most sequels nerd
How many times was "Anti Disney Sentiment" printed in your contract before the sponsorship?
Honestly my only real problem with the ending is that Helena knocks him out when in other movies she would have had to convince him or have him come to his own realization
To play devils advocate he is like geriatric so its not as bad as if she ko'd young indy lol
@@Ares_gaming_117 it's almost like female characters that understand their physical limitations and rely on things like intelligence and hard work would be awesome for women to see, as opposed to 50kg women simply replacing men. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo series broke my suspension of disbelief. A 5'2, 47kg woman beating the shit out of 3 bikers (who are assumed to be brutes who've killed men with their bare hands) just made me cringe and zone out... and that was BEFORE the modern Captain Marvel 🙄
@@alyssarichardson2544 Oh yeah, i couldnt agree more. Havent seen girl with dragon tattoo but yeah these modern movies where these tiny girls are easily bashing multiple huge trained men, taking their hands and flipping them around like they are rag dolls are totally rediculous lol. And yeah it takes you out of the movie because we all know how those fights would go. But yeah its also sad that women dont get to see more realistic and intelligently portrayed female characters and role models. Ones that use intellect, cunning, manipulation or stealth to compensate for physical disadvantages. Why show a competent but realistic female heroine stealthing around and dealing with threats in very creative ways when she can just easliy bash thru multiple guys 2x-3x her size without breaking a sweat? Its lazy, uninspired and, essentially, its misleading propaganda.
THATS the real problem?
Indy is not in control in the finale…. like Raiders of the Lost Ark. It’s not anything new.
"Star Wars will never be deep"
Oh boy, even pre-2010s era of Star Wars medias would prove you wrong, especially in video games and some better bits of Extended Universe departments (take it there's some dogturds yet it have a lot of cool stuffs for Star Wars lore)
This.
Star Wars explored a lot deep philosophical issues, just not in the movies.
I will always remember one of my favorite quotes from the books, when Han Solo's son (the real one, not the Adam Driver knockoff) is in a situation where he doesn't know what to do because his Jedi teachings don't apply to a moral grey area:
“When you always know what is right, where is freedom? No one chooses the wrong, Jacen Solo. Uncertainty sets you free."
Maybe he meant itll never be subversive like rian johnson tried making it
Nobody gives a shit about the EU other than gay nerds
@@Ares_gaming_117No, the most subversive thing in Star Wars being of The Ancients (which one of their members eventually become Abeloth) and Kreia tried to detach as much as humanity and sentient beings in her Galaxy from the grip of The Force's influences itself
Rian Johnson only flawed pale imitation of subversion of Star Wars only on superficial level without in depth understanding of its Cosmology, Chronology, History, Anthropology and ultimate metaphysics of Star Wars
The older "Legends"/Extended Universe lore tries to explore these aspects of Star Wars in various media yeaaars before Disney acquisition and views it from multiple perspectives in somber, darker and not holding up with the fantastical aspects, while mercilessly grounded if both violence and philosophy being questioned akin to Clone Wars to KOTOR2 (back then Star Wars lore has things going up to toe to toe with current entanglingnmessfest of Warhammer 40k lore, which have their own problems with consistency yet the authenticity somehow are more preserved than whatever the hell Disney's Star Wars does in the past 7-8 years to this day)
“…adults getting mad at movies and TV Shows for 7 year olds”
> She-Hulk was literally about an adulterous leach of a girl boss who openly sexually harasses men with her Hulk form
Either ShreddedNerd is saying all this about Indy and the overall Disney stuff coming out purely in bad faith to deposition counter-arguments…
…or he’s being a contrarian.
Either way, different strokes 🤷🏽♂️
Sounds like Contrarian to me. Or maybe this is just a fat L take on his end. Who knows
3rd option: he didn’t watch ishe-hulk, openly admits it, and makes a joke about the face value of it while also joking about him reviewing a movie for teenage boys.
You think that was the intended meaning of a stupid ass show like She-hulk? Are you insane
I actually thought this was an ironic video. But no, you're actually being serious here. No; the film ITSELF is dogshit. It's poorly written, has a crap story, and treats Indy horribly. It's bad completely independent of the Kathleen Kennedy hate.
Many people who really like a certain book/movie etc are unable to consider its downfall. I have a Tolkien fan friend who is unable to see anything Tolkien related as bad, including Rings of Power and the recent Magick tcg thing.
"uhhh it wasn't THAT bad..."
bruh that's the 343fanboy defense, sorry you missed on this one
Well, at least your video game takes are based. Speaking of which you haven't had a based take since your iron sights video. What gives?
Do you reckon he can keep his Based card for now?
@@EteraRPGas I just edited into my comment. He hasn't made a based take since his iron sights video. He spends more time live making commentary podcasts with his friends. I come here for game reviews and commentary on why video game suck now. I never thought about a based card in general
@@Gator159 fair enough
@@Gator159
To be fair, "based" just means sticking to your own opinions and being true to who you are, despite what the greater public would think. I don't agree with a single thing he said here, but it is rather "based" to have such an unpopular opinion. With that said though, I still downvoted the video, cause I just think he's letting his fanboyism blind him to an objectively bad movie. It'd be like defending The Rise of Skywalker because you've seen the original trilogy 18 times.
@@MarvinPowell1 looking back he has had good videos after the iron sights thing. Like millennial writing video and the downfall of Halo. I found the Halo killer video to be boring (maybe that was the point lol)
But yeah, my mistake I just am distracted because how much I don't care for his skills as a level modding person like when he made the Doom layout in Halo. I said it looks like shit and his fanboys come in to defend it so then I get tempted to unsubscribe because fanboys who love a RUclipsr makes that RUclipsr look worse off like they don't need me anymore
So basically it's not that it's a bad film, merely a somewhat mediocre one that has few if any real redeeming qualities.
A significant portion of this review highits something important: a lot of your "praise" for it essentially boils down to "here's how the movie could have been way worse, but thankfully they didn't do that" which is pretty telling. I'm not suggesting that's wrong to point out but it does speak volumes of how little in the film is actually noteworthy and worth praising, and instead it's pretty much just "not as bad as it could have been."
Yes, it could have been worse. Thankfully it wasn't a terrible film that forever tarnished the legacy of Jones as a capstone to the series, as yet another property that Disney ruined. But it also could have been a lot better. At this point if Disney didn't make it an absolute knockout that would genuinely surprise people with real quality that they honestly liked, then people were always going to hate it. Audiences are done giving Disney any money for anything less than a stellar product. People and reviews have gotten sick of it all, and a movie that's "just okay" is not going to win them back.
The point of the video isn't really to sell the movie as much as it is to argue much of criticism making rounds is in bad faith.
@@TrappedInFloorAnd the video is inherently wrong for doing that
Mediocrity should not be normalized 🤦♂️
The movie WAS bad. Trying to get some newbie to take over the Indie mantle will never work. I rather watch Crystal Skull than Dial of Destiny.
The ending was gold, pure comedy. I dont know if it was intended, but if you watch this movie as a comedy flick its a 8 or 9/10.
You went from making a banger video about terrible writing to this garbage video defending an objectively terrible film. The pacing, the editing, the plot contrivance, the bad cgi (lol young indy with old indy voice), the nostalgia bait, that ending... It's all terrible.
Did we watch the same film?
Yes but only one of you got the check from Disney
Or people can just like things
Please for the love of god say sike
Bro says anti disney sentiment like he's talking about a terrorist ideology
Well....... Actually: Gay agenda
Destruction of nuclear family
Destruction of Male characters and so on
Look at Mulan credits
@@Sgto.Wolvington yeah I was saying the opposite, he says the buzzword like it's some sort of made up extremist ideology when it's an objective fact that 90% of hollywood and 1000% of disney is garbage right now, it's not an "anti-disney sentiment" the movies are all bad
@@blondeboi2132yes its that bad. Dont know what hapend to The author of this vídeo but this IS just puré nonesense. Indy 5 its worse than 4. Its just a terrible cash grab
@@Sgto.Wolvington he probably got his first girlfriend
@@Sgto.Wolvington For it to be a cash grab it actually has to grab some cash
Ngl I don't really ever understand the reason of getting genuinely mad at a bad movie like a lot of weird culture war people do. The only bad movie that ever genuinely pissed me off was Thor Love and Thunder just due to me recently losing a loved one to cancer and the movie repeatedly making shitty Marvel jokes about it, though I fully admit that's kinda an anomaly and not everyone would or should be upset at that.
Looking at the top comments here... I appreciate how fairly you approached this. I've often seen people "go the extra mile" with their takes when I would've otherwise agreed with them, as if they needed to prove how based they are. You did not. Honesty is sufficient.
Some feel compelled to voice their opinion on every new piece of garbage media, opinions which although not incorrect aren't necessary; it's much better to avoid thinking about trash altogether. Such complaining is endemic to Twitter, and makes it easy to figure who uses Twitter based on what is brought up in conversation.
I won't watch the movie either way, as I have no need for it. But this video was good; this cool-headedness is rare nowadays.
Have a good one. Zellig is coal, I hope Amsterdam sinks under the sea and gets gumped by Atlantians.
Ongezellig is the only reason God hasn't smote the Netherlands yet.
We must help shreddednerd to escape The KK's torture chamber!
Jesus Christ dude, get an opinion outside of reactionary cringe lords videos with red faced thumbnails and Kathleen Kennedy
Rare L for Shredded
Way too much Soy in this
You guys are so fickle. You don’t have to agree with every opinion he has. I swear you /tv/ types are equally as NPC as the consoomers you clown on.
Evrybvdy has vps and downs...
Soy? are you trying to be racist. You wanna go one on one with a sumo wrestler?
@@dutchmilk What?
@@dutchmilk soy is analogy for certain folks for qualities not deemed "masculine". They aren't talking about soy beans and/or protein.
Glad to see that Disney check cashed 💸
Wow bro, stay conspiracy chud pilled for life, go eat up your reactionary KK bad Miss Marvel slop by the quartering, spiteful and salty in your basement
Pretty ironic I subscribed after the "Millennial Writing" video, and now we're doing a complete 180 heel turn running damage-control for Disney like some sort of vapid dime-a-dozen mainstream journalist. Seriously, this is the kind of take I'd expect from literally any channel but yours. What a shame.
Hope the contrarian clickbait was worth it. Unsubbed.
We won't miss you! :)
@@caramelldansen2204 I will
God speed 🫡
i thought this was going to be satire. ur takes r usually good but i cant go with u on this one
Nice to see I wasn't wrong when I realized that Shredded built up a viewer base of reactionary chuds that turn on him the moment he says he likes something that their chud of the week made a 3 hour rant video on
@@MrBoooneREAL
Meanwhile I’ll continue to pray on Disney’s downfall 🙏
erm im actually a loyal member of the shredded nerd army☝️☝️☝️🤓🤓
@@cannonballdotcom8332 I love you ❤️
This was not a good movie. "Let's ruin Indy's life so we can put him back together with Marian again." Mangold talking out his ass that he wrote a great script that demanded a 5th Indiana Jones movie be made was the most idiotic thing I have ever heard a creative say. It was a cash grab Mangold. Your ego wasn't the reason the movie was made.
I doubt Indiana Jones is done. Digital Ghost Harrison Ford will live forever.
There are definitely people who went in trying to hate it because it's woke, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who went in trying to prove those people wrong and be contrarian. Even if you're annoyed at the culture war stuff, if you went in with the objective of figuring out how it's not culture war related, you're also biased. There are certainly people in the middle like myself who were cautious and just decided not to see it because it didn't sound good, and the culture war videos were just a means to figuring that out. Getting past old depressed Indy and Phoebe, it sounded like all the action setpieces, which are what you watch these movies for, were simple repetitive vehicle chases. "Well, what do you expect? He's old!" Okay then, don't make the movie!
The movie bombed. If it were actually good, it could have generated good word of mouth and become really big, but it didn't. Anti-woke people or not.
"If it were actually good, it could have generated good word of mouth and become really big", yeah like if good movies were inherently anti-flop lmao. The two Blade Runners, Donnie Darko and even The Thing (1982) were all big flops
@@juromori There's an appetite for good action movies with an emphasis on star power and stunts, as we see with Tom Cruise's recent movies. Indiana Jones isn't something esoteric or difficult or high concept, it's pure action adventure.
@@TheMinskyTerrorist ok, so since people like action movies they wouldn't let any good one to flop? That's your logic?
@@juromori It's not about "letting" anything, it's about having fun at the movies. With Indiana Jones, I think the potential could be there if Harrison Ford were a little younger and the movie were more ambitious. The originals being from the 80s clearly doesn't matter. It's not a big stretch to say that people who like Ghostbusters, Top Gun, or pieces of new Star Wars would also show up for Indiana Jones if their coworkers or friends or family told them it was good.
@@TheMinskyTerroristit's definitely a stretch to think just word of mouth can save every good movie. There are many important factors related to the success or failure of a movie, not just quality. The video above actually talks about some of them, you should watch it.
All credibility is now gone... another has been lost.
Billions must watch
It was a critical and commercial failure for many reasons. Even Crystal Skull was better imo.
Just admit you hate women, nothing is worse than Crystal Skull
What did you smoke to come to this conclusion?
When you as the legendary franchise main lead is being carried by other character, you should know that you have to hang it up. Title's "Indiana Jones" when it's Phoebe Waller Bridge carrying the whole movie
WOAW I award you no updoots for not following the party line.
I'm ngl, I'd love it if the franchise just ended with the upcoming Indiana Jones game they announced back in 2021. But only if the game is good that is
HOW GOOD IS THAT DIQ BI?
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>I'm not getting many clicks and I'm Tired of Pretending it's Not clickbait
Fixed that for you friend. I bet you also love Indiana part 4 and the new star wars movies. Did you know they've been doing disney live action remakes? They're straight 🔥 right up your alley. There's this new show it's kind of hard to catch but it's called Willow and you would just love the "milk" that he gives you.
You did not even watch the video man 😂
This is a social experiment. Include me in a screenshot for that social experiment video :D
Right...?
He is experimenting with the best ways to nuke his channel.
The only video of yours I don't like,I even disliked it.
Same it's a damn shame he's blind to everything.
So gay lol
Dial of Destiny is bad because I don't like Disney. No, I have not seen it, and no I'm never going to.
I've seen it and didn't like it. Now what?
@PickledKong64 even if you did like it, you'd never admit it which makes any of your statements worthless, lol
@phil7144 the movie was boring, had poor writing and unlike able characters.
@@phil7144 "I did not like it"
"nO yOu JuSt WoN't AdMiT iT yOu DiD lOl!!!"
this really constitutes a good argument in your mind, you muppet?
you make a good point. Your controversial opinions are always the most interesting.
I miss when you could watch something without joining in a gay culture war
For real. Can't even play Baldur's Gate 3 without someone screaming "IS THIS GAME WOKE OR BASED?!?!?!?!"
Easy solution. Ignore anyone who shoves their politics into entertainment. This means don't participate in outrage campaigns.
@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation so. Is it woke or based?
@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Because people around you are screaming when you play the game ?
Wow what a bold fence sitting statement.
I didn't watch Crystal Skull or this one and basically consider the franchise done after the trilogy, so I can't say I have any dog in the fight. I do respect the dedication to making a 29 minute video essay and taking a devil's advocate position on reviewing the film though, so I hope the dislike ratio and comments don't get to you too much.
The movie is completely Era accurate in depicting Phoebe Bridges character as some pretty lady who steals the attention of a whole room of men. 60's beauty standards where insanely 4/10. She'd cook in that Era, as a femme Fatale
they liked twigs so they could pretend she was a twink lol
Yeah, no. 60s era beats many eras afterwards.
@@taterc229 Gena Lollabridgida, Princess Grace of Monaco, Audrey Hepburn, Yvonne Craig, Brigitte Bardot, and Diana Rigg saya hello!
This wasn't bad because it was woke, it was bad because the writing was ASS.
People hate successor type characters in general. Right now the biggest target is boruto, naruto's son
People hate successor characters who haven’t earned their status or to be liked by the audience, they’re just better than the original character in every way & you as an audience member just have to accept that they’re better in every way without the personality or connection over the years with the character.
Havent seen the movie yet but i think id already prefer shia over shaw. No, I dont have any good reasons other than im mysoginistic.
@SaraNorman-lv6cu yeah i was being a bit facetious lol. I actually wouldnt be opposed to seeing it. And im sure it can be enjoyable. I just dont know if im invested in indy enough as a series to have the will to go see it, esp if i cant get others to see it with. And considering the other movies out id rather see first like mission impossible & barbenheimer. But I might give it a shot then, thanks
I don't know, I feel like its weird not having Steven Spielberg make the film, maybe i will give it a shot in the future but i love the first three so much i think i have seen each like 7 times
You know, I have the same feeling like you do here in your video. With The Matrix Resurrections. People unloaded so much shit on it, that I was thinking it is the same trash as the third Star Wars Trilogy is(of which I only seen Episode 7) and I was pleasant surprised how good Matrix 4 actually is. Considered the fact that the storyline of the Matrix Trilogy is finished, there is nothing you could add to it, save the fact that the fate of Neo and Trinity was left open in part three. The Matrix Resurrections makes it look like the whole Matrix Trilogy is made up, a story in a Video Game of all things. Seeing it's ending I felt like they might have been put into the matrix in order for the physical damage both sustained at the end of Matrix 3 being healed, and while in there their minds experience another adventure, which was fine for he most part. The movie was not a "waste of time" to watch, though it didn't have had much to do with the original Trilogy.
Not your best work.
If you like this movie you probably think she hulk was good. /facepalm
"Its certainly better than Crystal Skull" is not very high praises, bud. And how is this a definitive cap-off to the franize? We've had two of those already. Theres literally no reason to believe they wont do this again in 10 years if Ford is still alive needs money.
I like that wombat goes through the same character arc that indy does in the temple of doom and also has her own ethnic sidekick
Gotta have an ethnic. It's the rules now.
'em on the' tube
No idea when i subscribed but i regret that now. Byyyeeee
Thank you for pointing out The Bourne Identity and Taken as that switch in style for action films, I've long thought the same re: the films that kicked it off.
It is impossible for these freaks to make a sequel without the main character getting divorced
It's okay. Better than I expected it to be, but by no means a masterpiece. I don't mind Indy growing old and taking on a different kind of role. But I hated the new characters. I don't mind Indy chasing some weird ass time travel device. Not my favorite mcguffin, but it ended up being fun. The last 10 mins or so was a good time even though it was kind of silly. Overall, it was okay.
Its a sorry state of affairs all around.
I'm sorry but all of the 4 India Jones weren't masterpieces. They were always b-movie camp tier movies. Let's not kid ourselves.
@@omarsabir1210 no one is saying Indiana Jones is high art cinema. The point is that people are too engrossed with culture war bullshit to appreciate a fun movie for what it is, and instead try to look at it through the """political""" angle.
@@terminator572 I'm talking to op who tmhas high standards saying that it's not a masterpiece as if the old movies were masterpieces.
I know Halo is dead, but this is a really bad way to branch out for a channel.
I know this isn't related to the main topic of the video but "Star Wars shouldn't be deep" is such a bad take. Look at Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars, Rebels, and of course ANDOR
But of course you probably haven't seen most of those so....
Thank you for bringing up cinematography/cuts.
Too many cuts or too much shaking camera is disorienting and immersion breaking, because I can't see what's happening. Long-ish, stable, continuous shots that aren't too close nor too far does make it immersive. Band of Brothers is the only show/movie I've seen that does shaky camera correctly. But that isn't to say continuous shots can't be overused. A videogame I saw not too long ago had continuous shots with shaky camera and funny angles, because they were trying to mimic Red Dead 2. It was so frustrating.
“Did I mention she has a short round?”
"Anti-Disney sentiment" You say that like it's a bad thing. If you were as much of a fan of star wars as you were an indie fan, you'd be shitting on them a lot more in this vid.
People simply don't like the fact that this multi-fucking-billion dollar company can't make one actually great original piece of media, and yet still makes enough money to buy the rights to something that should have died long ago just so they can puppeteer it's corpse around for a couple more years. So they don't have to take any risks making something original.
People have every right to hate this company and almost anything associated with it.
True that xister 😍😍😍
i guess when your standards are low, you can enjoy anything
**cough** starfield **cough**
Jeez. Ill just pretend like this video doesnt exist lol
Redditors when they see an opinion not authorised by their favourite psychopath reactionary youtuber or their fellow brainlets on their subreddit of choice.
@@caramelldansen2204 ew youre one of *those* huh? Hilarious how specific you got, bet you nail everbody and know everything lol And I'm pretty sure me pretending the video doesn't exist is the opposite of what they'd do but go off I guess
@@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-. Which "one of those" are you talking about? What's the reactionary punching bag nowadays, still jews? Gays? Women? I've lost track.
@@caramelldansen2204 jeez I'm not unpacking that with you go away lmao
@@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-. Nobody is forcing you to respond, you lil freak
Biggest issue with this movie and Crystal Skull is that they "ignore" tv series in which Indiana Jones has a daughter, grandchildren and Greatgrandchildren.
Tv series is about earliest days of Indiana Jones and Indiana tells that to his granddaughter.
real talk tho, I don't think crystal skull is that bad. It is the worst film but it's not a bad film. I think it's just 'cool' to hate crystal skull
yeah i agree i think its just cool to crap on it, obviously its not perfect like for example the fridge nuke thing was just retarded
Awesome video! Could you do a review of Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny next? Would be cool! 😄👍🏻
I appreciate the attempt at breaking the mold. I think the review could have used some more organization. Much of it feels like a response video to no one in particular. I've seen several critical breakdowns of this movie that cover the issues with its writing in great detail, so I've feel like I've got a good point of reference after seeing both sides. To describe the experience, it's like reading a few reviews of a table that go over how its legs are uneven, its surface gives people splinters, and it collapses under more than 10 pounds of weight. Then you read this review that says, "I've seen people saying this table has fewer than four legs. It's just not true. The legs might be uneven, but there are four of them." The number of legs on the table isn't what convinced me it's a bad table, and the review even partly agrees with the reviews that convinced me. It makes it difficult to be convinced in the other direction.
I also find it unconvincing that people who review the film poorly were simply hoping for it to be bad. Bulverism aside, the example RUclips title in this video stating this movie was destined to flop was from The Critical Drinker, who has reversed his perspective several times after watching a movie or show despite expecting it to be bad or underwhelming. It happened with Prey, Arcane, Andor, Picard season 3, and House of the Dragon, to give the most recent examples. This is also true for many in Drinker's circle, which is why I find it hard to believe.
I don't take issue with the claim that the movie is good, and I'm sure you're responding to arguments you've actually heard. The main issue I see is that the arguments you are attacking are weak, which make your counterarguments feel weak. The most convincing "actually this movie is good' videos I've seen are the ones that tackle the strongest arguments.
critical drinker is anything else, but a reviewer he is not.
It was good to hear an honest non politically motivated review.
I did not like this movie, and this series needed to end with Indy riding into the sunset.
I don't think the people who made this or crystal skull understood Indiana Jones.
The people who made crystal skull created the character, so…
I still don't get the hate on the 4th movie. I get it it had it's downs, but i still think it was just just two much of a change for many fans from the spiritual aspect to the aliens. And Mutt wasn't a bad character, he was a bit annoying at first, but he showed later he has potential and despite his rebellious act, he could show respect for those who deserve it. And if nothing else i do think the ending of it should be considered a good ending. All movies had a happy ending that made sure Indy will have a good life if you see him again in the next movie. Despite his age, the forth movie showed him living in the same cozy suburban house, being a respected professor at the college, and by the end he was associate dean. Then supposedly 2 years later he was fired, since in DOD he has been working at this new midass school for 10 years and there's 12 years between 4 and 5. They killed off Mutt, who was anti authority and pretty sure not a fan of going abroad killing people for the government. His Marriage Failing is something that i can believe, but don't know why try it for a 3rd time then and break them up again. Why would it be a Happy ending that they try it for a 4th time? Because they are so old they will die before they can separate again? But my main problem was really his job. Taking the shitty subway to his shitty job, where nobody cares about his lecture and he hates his life. Luke's downfall was stupid, i mean the reasoning behind trying to kill a kid for sensing darkness in them. But Indy's downfall felt so rushed. His apartment also a big wtf, why is he living there? He sold his apartment? He moved out and Marion took it? Then if they get back together why not have him wake up there? So Many WHY's And No Because's...
Bruh
You don't have to hate it, but bruhhhhhhhhh
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Havent seen the film so I cant give a full take, but I will say the Ark in the first Indiana Jones film was built up over the course of the movie as something that could be potentially dangerous.
Ex: near the middle of the film when they’re in Egypt, one character says that the Ark was something that “mankind was not meant to disturb”
This but with the dnd movie.
I wasn't even thinking the movie was woke when I was watching most of the time, people say the male protag is stepped by the female warrior but nobody talks about how he started awful BECAUSE HE WAS THE MC SO HE NEEDED THE MOST EXTREME CHARACTER ARC.
Brimstone Indiana Copes. "Muh le Soy Wars is le slop, but Indiana J*ws is le different I swear. Star Wars was never dee-ACK"