@@cephacore Yeah, it was called an SSHD, it was basically a normal HDD, but with a way bigger and faster cache, it was usually using an 8GB SSD at that time, so 16GB was actually pretty big. Apple did the exact same thing for a very long time in their iMac, but they called it a "Fusion Drive" because Apple loves to make confusing terms (iSight instead of webcam, AirPort instead of WiFi, SuperDrive instead of DVD Writer, Fusion Drive instead of SSHD, Logic Board instead of motherboard, etc.). It pretty quickly became obsolete in the consumer market since it was certainely faster than a regular HDD, but so far from a SSD, and very soon after, 64GB SSD became pretty affordable anyway. It's still kinda used in the enterprise market since SSD are still incredibly more expensive than HDD for the size needed (for example, our storage at work dedicated to backups is 40TB, and that's considered small), so in most modern NAS and SAN, we see a bunch of HDDs and like one or two SSDs for caching the most commonly used data, you can have something like 100TB of HDD + 2TB of SSD.
Yes , my Dell used this with intel optane 16gb SSD , that 16GB is mostly used to store the preloaded cache from the HDD to gain ssd speed.. the downside is it kills your harddrive faster since its forced to spin at max speed and long durations. If I recall Seagate Firecuda HDD used the same concept
Yes, I have a Thinkpad T450s which is slightly newer than this one and my guess is this is like mine in that it has a small M.2 drive in it that was originally configured as an SSD cache for the HDD. Mine actually has more than one 2242 M.2 slot on the motherboard. I added a 512 GB SSD to a slot in mine as well as a 2.5 inch SSD and did away with the caching. Unfortunately these slots are not NVME so they don't benefit from the new popularity of replacement 2230 NVME drives. Still, it's easy to find a 128 GB drive for one of these slots.
@@cephacore, Mostly just lack of knowledge, really. I'm an IT consultant, and I've lost track of how many times people have said to me, "My computer makes a funny noise when I turn it on. Is it time for a new one?", and the problem will turn out to just be a dirty fan. Most people who aren't technology professionals have no idea what computer equipment they have or how old it is, let alone what's worth fixing, and if it doesn't behave as expected when they turn it on, it's faulty. Another thing to keep in mind with eBay listings is that a lot of them are from people just liquidating stuff, sometimes professionally. If they make a representation about an item and the buyer decides the item doesn't measure up for whatever reason, they'll contact the seller to return it for a refund, and they'll file a "significantly not as described" complaint with eBay or PayPal if the seller doesn't comply immediately. If someone is liquidating a lot of items, it's often less hassle to just list used tech items as "for parts only, no warranty, no returns" and be done with it. Thus, sometimes you get a laptop that's stone dead because of a motherboard fault and is really only useful for whatever parts still work, and sometimes you get a gem that just needs someone to clean the figurative dust off, like this laptop.
I still use a X250 here and there for some less taxing programs. The dual battery feature is perfect for what I use it for as well. Paid £130 4 years ago for it.
I'm a little surprised you were testing this laptop for gaming prowess, particularly graphics and sound. ThinkPads are business machines, pure and simple. They're meant to be exactly what an office worker needs to do his work on the go, so they're sturdy, easy to fix, reliable and usually equipped with at least decent processors and at least adequate memory. Recent ThinkPads, like most other laptops, have been skimpy on the onboard storage, at least with the lower-priced models. Most business users do not play serious games on their laptops, and if they want to listen to something, they generally plug in a headset or connect a Bluetooth audio device. If you want a Lenovo laptop for gaming and entertainment, I think the Y50 was the one to get back when this T440s was built, and nowadays it would be a Legion.
I really like the blue tack hack. 👍 If you fold some cardboard and put it at the end of the SSD it will stop the drive from disconnecting. All the best.
i got a similar speced laptop made by dell for free once. with some 4th gen i5 vpro thing. 2013 but has parts labled 2015. has no problems other than having a 320 hdd and a 768p screen lol
A grand for a T-Series ThinkPad is a bargain brand new or not. Man I want to sub to this channel but I just don't like the fact that this ThinkPad was compared to a Chromebook or ThinkPad or Chromebook killer for the title. S or not, it's not a Chromebook killer or even in the category to even kill a Chromebook. Lol yes I am I think series fanboy.
I understand, I added that in as unfortunately the chip in this ThinkPad is powerful than a lot of Chromebooks believe it or not. Goes to show how underpowered some of them really are.
bro i m using thinkpad e450 with i3 5005 u with 8 gig dual channel which is pretty good in all work and give 9hours backup on inta (i tested, dont ask why) good for average minecraft java 1.21.1 (fps~190) something. thinkpad are build different remember
@@moritzarin6499 I have upgraded the T570 quite a bit... I love most of all the Thinkpad models... but, I am currently rocking the T570... I do love the T480... it is a classic...
You need to stop using that cheap $1 thermal paste... in every video all the laptops you repaste are always running at 90+, a 20g tube of mx4 is $13 on newegg
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The 16GB SSD was likely used with a hard disk drive. Hybrid storage was a popular way to get SSD speed without the SSD price.
Oh wow I never knew that, how cool
@@cephacore Yeah, it was called an SSHD, it was basically a normal HDD, but with a way bigger and faster cache, it was usually using an 8GB SSD at that time, so 16GB was actually pretty big. Apple did the exact same thing for a very long time in their iMac, but they called it a "Fusion Drive" because Apple loves to make confusing terms (iSight instead of webcam, AirPort instead of WiFi, SuperDrive instead of DVD Writer, Fusion Drive instead of SSHD, Logic Board instead of motherboard, etc.). It pretty quickly became obsolete in the consumer market since it was certainely faster than a regular HDD, but so far from a SSD, and very soon after, 64GB SSD became pretty affordable anyway. It's still kinda used in the enterprise market since SSD are still incredibly more expensive than HDD for the size needed (for example, our storage at work dedicated to backups is 40TB, and that's considered small), so in most modern NAS and SAN, we see a bunch of HDDs and like one or two SSDs for caching the most commonly used data, you can have something like 100TB of HDD + 2TB of SSD.
Yes , my Dell used this with intel optane 16gb SSD , that 16GB is mostly used to store the preloaded cache from the HDD to gain ssd speed.. the downside is it kills your harddrive faster since its forced to spin at max speed and long durations. If I recall Seagate Firecuda HDD used the same concept
And they used a very odd sized ssd which made upgrades much more limited.
Yes, I have a Thinkpad T450s which is slightly newer than this one and my guess is this is like mine in that it has a small M.2 drive in it that was originally configured as an SSD cache for the HDD. Mine actually has more than one 2242 M.2 slot on the motherboard. I added a 512 GB SSD to a slot in mine as well as a 2.5 inch SSD and did away with the caching. Unfortunately these slots are not NVME so they don't benefit from the new popularity of replacement 2230 NVME drives. Still, it's easy to find a 128 GB drive for one of these slots.
Sometimes people list stuff as faulty when they didn't even really test it. Although I wonder if they just didn't have a charger for it.
Could well be, a bit negligent not checking before selling but I guess it worked in my favour
@@cephacore, Mostly just lack of knowledge, really. I'm an IT consultant, and I've lost track of how many times people have said to me, "My computer makes a funny noise when I turn it on. Is it time for a new one?", and the problem will turn out to just be a dirty fan. Most people who aren't technology professionals have no idea what computer equipment they have or how old it is, let alone what's worth fixing, and if it doesn't behave as expected when they turn it on, it's faulty. Another thing to keep in mind with eBay listings is that a lot of them are from people just liquidating stuff, sometimes professionally. If they make a representation about an item and the buyer decides the item doesn't measure up for whatever reason, they'll contact the seller to return it for a refund, and they'll file a "significantly not as described" complaint with eBay or PayPal if the seller doesn't comply immediately. If someone is liquidating a lot of items, it's often less hassle to just list used tech items as "for parts only, no warranty, no returns" and be done with it. Thus, sometimes you get a laptop that's stone dead because of a motherboard fault and is really only useful for whatever parts still work, and sometimes you get a gem that just needs someone to clean the figurative dust off, like this laptop.
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Wow, thanks! 😄
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My first time watching, but I will sub because of this lovely comment.
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I'm a Thinkpad T series fanboy so always nice seeing one brought back to life.
Im on a T440s watching this right now, but my screen says T440 - maybe its been replaced...
Best way to tell for sure is the footprint. If it's quite thick then it's probably a T440
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Thanks! Glad you're enjoying them 😀
I still use a X250 here and there for some less taxing programs. The dual battery feature is perfect for what I use it for as well.
Paid £130 4 years ago for it.
The old X Series laptops were simply unmatched for portability and features. Good times
Ive not had a ThinkPad since 600x P3, yeah its been awhile. Very well done video, keep at it!
Wow, now that's cool. I've got a few vintage thinkpads so stay tuned. Thanks for watching 😄
I'm a little surprised you were testing this laptop for gaming prowess, particularly graphics and sound. ThinkPads are business machines, pure and simple. They're meant to be exactly what an office worker needs to do his work on the go, so they're sturdy, easy to fix, reliable and usually equipped with at least decent processors and at least adequate memory. Recent ThinkPads, like most other laptops, have been skimpy on the onboard storage, at least with the lower-priced models. Most business users do not play serious games on their laptops, and if they want to listen to something, they generally plug in a headset or connect a Bluetooth audio device. If you want a Lenovo laptop for gaming and entertainment, I think the Y50 was the one to get back when this T440s was built, and nowadays it would be a Legion.
I understand, though I only test them to see how the graphics hold up. Most of the time, they don't lol.
what if the seller was using the wrong charger and it wasnt supplying enough power for it to turn on
Yeah, didn't think about that. Who knows how many other 'faulty' thinkpads went under the radar lol
I really like the blue tack hack. 👍 If you fold some cardboard and put it at the end of the SSD it will stop the drive from disconnecting.
All the best.
Haha no worries, I've used cardboard before but have had it come loose over time. Blue tack hack, I like it 👌
swap the LTE chip card for a NVMe and then its maxed out
Nice! Will try that out.
just bought a thinkpad x1 carbon gen 2 with the same i7 as your t440s for $30
How many people did u have to sacrifice for your luck??
around three lol 😄
i got a similar speced laptop made by dell for free once. with some 4th gen i5 vpro thing. 2013 but has parts labled 2015. has no problems other than having a 320 hdd and a 768p screen lol
What I was thinking was Ether the seller didn’t have a charger or the charger the seller used was faulty
The seller sells many laptops so I doubt it's that. Perhaps it's the charger or he just didnt test it lol
@@cephacore probably lol
Looks so much like x240
X240s bigger brother
A grand for a T-Series ThinkPad is a bargain brand new or not. Man I want to sub to this channel but I just don't like the fact that this ThinkPad was compared to a Chromebook or ThinkPad or Chromebook killer for the title. S or not, it's not a Chromebook killer or even in the category to even kill a Chromebook. Lol yes I am I think series fanboy.
I understand, I added that in as unfortunately the chip in this ThinkPad is powerful than a lot of Chromebooks believe it or not. Goes to show how underpowered some of them really are.
bro i m using thinkpad e450 with i3 5005 u with 8 gig dual channel which is pretty good in all work and give 9hours backup on inta (i tested, dont ask why) good for average minecraft java 1.21.1 (fps~190) something. thinkpad are build different remember
minecraft setting -) fast (everything) 6 render distance /mods distance horizons and sodium
Ah, I'll take note of that. Thank you
Chromebook killer? Would would anyone want to kill something that's already dead? Or has never been alive to begin with.
T570 is king...
I would argue that the t480 oder t580 are way better choices because they have quad core CPUs compared to dual CPUs
@@moritzarin6499 I have upgraded the T570 quite a bit... I love most of all the Thinkpad models... but, I am currently rocking the T570... I do love the T480... it is a classic...
I unfortunately paid that much for mine
Refurbished is the way to go, especially with laptops.
You need to stop using that cheap $1 thermal paste... in every video all the laptops you repaste are always running at 90+, a 20g tube of mx4 is $13 on newegg
Done, bought a pack off Amazon. Should've done that sooner, my bad.