😂😂😂Puerto Rico didn’t start anything so his way claiming something is to use territories 😂😂😂 Ricans continue breaking after the Black ogs stopped doing all that dancing
Some of my old school boriqua buddy’s tried to pull a Jedi mind trick until I gently respectfully reminded them that back in 80-81 when they arrived straight from the island they were rocking multiple colors at the same time, they kept their hair long and fabioesq , they wore open toe sandals and roasted whole pigs in their backyards while jamming to live instrumentation type music. Salsa merengue etc etc etc. NONE of those expressions were fundamental or foundational to the culture of hip hop. Yo!!! We almost came to blows. They no longer want me around when they have certain discussions. Lol! B1! Salute
FBAs dropped break dancing in the early 80s. Puerto Ricans kept it going until the mid to late 80s. FBAs had already moved on. We were doing a lot of new dances, that involved the females. The music had changed. I remember an instant at a club. You had Puerto Ricans and a few Mexicans --- kind of odd because they usually don't get along, standing with their backs to the wall, they were mean-mugging everybody, but we weren't paying them any mind, too many fine hotties. But what really set them off was the the Latinas were digging us, and they were out their dancing with us. Then the Puerto Ricans tried to come out onto the floor, and they were yellin, "CLEAR THE FLOOR! CLEAR THE FLOOR! WE GONNA BREAK THIS SHIT DOWN!" They wanted to break dance. We looked at them, and kept dancing, Then they got crazy and tried to move us out physically. BIG MISTAKE. We surrounded them mofos. They rethoughtm their tactic; took the bass out of their voice, and just all meekly explained that they wanted to break dance. We all told them that nobody does that shit anymore. We all dressed fly pre-NJS era, we weren't looking to go down on the floor and get messed up. Puerto Ricans were still wearing sweat suits and those hiking vests and shit. They stepped off, calling us bustas and shit. But I think they knew at that moment, break dancing was done for good.
@@TheJayster571 probably because you lack the lineage or perhaps it’s due to you being upset that the only folk who truly matter are Foundational Black Americans. After all, black folk don’t call each other the Spanish word for cuckold like boriquas do and we never wanted to look like Fabio or dress with multiple clashing colors at the same time. But boriquas call each other ni&&a because they’ve emulated EVERYTHING we’ve done from the way they wear their hair(y’all weren’t getting tapers and fades in the 80’s) to the clothes to the speech etc etc etc. hiphop could have only come from an American demographic a very unique and set apart American demographic. The vernacular inflection couldn’t have come from Spanish it just couldn’t have. Empirical data found within the historical record is untouchable period. Lol! FOH
@@TheJayster571 maybe you lack the mental aptitude and fortitude to comprehend the empirical data found within the historical record. Boriquas imitate and emulate everything Foundational Black Americans do and have done. Tapers and fades didn’t come from boriquas. Y’all calling each other what blacks call each other but we don’t call each other cabron. Hmm.
Wow. You slapped him around pretty good, in under 2 minutes. Yeah, he's running all over town Still trying to rewrite History. Can't wait to hear his new Asop Fables. He's a very strange fellow..... Zulu King Amin ♠️
He's a damn Outsider. Sitting around trying to Write ALL THE RULES we're supposed to follow... And answer to his crazy ass 🤣.. Reciting "The Elements" as if it's Law. NEVER want to touch the 5th Element, which is THE KNOWLEDGE. Who's KNOWLEDGE may I ask........ Zulu King Amin ♠️
This is what I know and I'm in my 60s: The DJing and MCing thing actually began here in Brooklyn with the DJs from King Charlie's sound system in the late 1960s at Summer block parties and park jams. Queens dudes like the Disco Twins elevated DJing by introducing turntables tricks like beat juggling and tandem cutting. Long Island DJs were the first ones to do battles Harlem DJs were the first to do the club circuit. Disco King Mario was the first DJ from the Bronk to do jams in the projects, then came Kool Herc and his crew. I heard that Philly were the first to do graffiti and then the guys in New Jersey did it after them and then it came to NYC. I heard the first B-Boys actually came from the Lower East Side and then it reached the East Harlem kids and then made it's way to the Bronx. Hip Hop is New York culture, It didn't start up in the Bronx, but it was consolidated and solidified there as they borrowed from everywhere else. What never sat right with me is how they collectively lied and acted like they created everything which isn't true. I hope someday someone makes a documentary telling the real true story about what the corporations named hip hop. We never called it that, white people took what DJ Hollywood used to say on his tapes and gave it that name as a diss to all the black and brown people doing what they didn't understand. Hip Hop is a pejorative and we fell for it...
thanks for the response. According to the doc 'Founding Fathers' King Charles did not set up a system till 72. Flowers and half a dozen mobile systems were already running when he started. If he was truly the source of sound system culture his name should be much more prominent amongst his peers at the time (like Herc). Much more points to Flowers. IMO people are trying to elevate King Charles because he is Jamaican and they are looking for a JA source because the myth of Herc bringing the culture from JA is failing. And Herc himself says he was inspired by DJs 1970 and earlier. I am actually very interested in Graff moving from Philly to Jersey, if you have any info on that (not from CornBread) let me know.
@@AKiEM.Yeha this guy thought he was being slick, trying to slide in King Charles. Bottomline Jamaicans got theior sound system culture form FBAs. There is actual video documentation of the Jamaican elders/pioneers of sound system culture, stating that the sound ssytem culture form FBAs. And here's what Herc has to say. ruclips.net/video/FpTYpiWJa2Q/видео.html
@@AKiEM. First I wanna say thanks, I watched that Founding Fathers doc you recommended and it was good info which confirmed what I remembered. King Charlie himself that his sound sytem was out in the parks in Brooklyn and Queens around 1967/1968, that's still long before 1973 when Herc started. Once again thanks for putting me on to that documentary.
The Question is more like Where was it given a name And where did the movement start. We know the music Is soul funk Rock n Roll. No one in NY in that Era copied anything from down south. Trust me NY was in a Class by itself trend setting Global.
there is no 1 place where ANY music is created unless theres an agenda like CIA counter culture music Beatles/mamas & papas were linked 2 a CIA plot 2 stop young ppl from protesting the Veitnam War so if ur saying hiphop was created in NY exclusively, perhaps another plot? It was made clear in that secret meeting in 91 that they would use hiphop 2 start private prison industry
The lie-Tino will never stop and neither should we!
✊🏾🇺🇸🔥🔥
😂😂😂Puerto Rico didn’t start anything so his way claiming something is to use territories 😂😂😂 Ricans continue breaking after the Black ogs stopped doing all that dancing
Nice!!! KRS-one had them believing in that _South Bronx_ stuff fo' real...😖
bro, krs had me fooled too... and Im still mad about it 😂
Some of my old school boriqua buddy’s tried to pull a Jedi mind trick until I gently respectfully reminded them that back in 80-81 when they arrived straight from the island they were rocking multiple colors at the same time, they kept their hair long and fabioesq , they wore open toe sandals and roasted whole pigs in their backyards while jamming to live instrumentation type music. Salsa merengue etc etc etc. NONE of those expressions were fundamental or foundational to the culture of hip hop. Yo!!! We almost came to blows. They no longer want me around when they have certain discussions. Lol! B1! Salute
FBAs dropped break dancing in the early 80s. Puerto Ricans kept it going until the mid to late 80s. FBAs had already moved on. We were doing a lot of new dances, that involved the females. The music had changed. I remember an instant at a club. You had Puerto Ricans and a few Mexicans --- kind of odd because they usually don't get along, standing with their backs to the wall, they were mean-mugging everybody, but we weren't paying them any mind, too many fine hotties. But what really set them off was the the Latinas were digging us, and they were out their dancing with us. Then the Puerto Ricans tried to come out onto the floor, and they were yellin, "CLEAR THE FLOOR! CLEAR THE FLOOR! WE GONNA BREAK THIS SHIT DOWN!" They wanted to break dance. We looked at them, and kept dancing, Then they got crazy and tried to move us out physically. BIG MISTAKE. We surrounded them mofos. They rethoughtm their tactic; took the bass out of their voice, and just all meekly explained that they wanted to break dance. We all told them that nobody does that shit anymore. We all dressed fly pre-NJS era, we weren't looking to go down on the floor and get messed up. Puerto Ricans were still wearing sweat suits and those hiking vests and shit. They stepped off, calling us bustas and shit. But I think they knew at that moment, break dancing was done for good.
That’s one of the dumbest statements I ever heard😂😂😂
@@TheJayster571 probably because you lack the lineage or perhaps it’s due to you being upset that the only folk who truly matter are Foundational Black Americans. After all, black folk don’t call each other the Spanish word for cuckold like boriquas do and we never wanted to look like Fabio or dress with multiple clashing colors at the same time. But boriquas call each other ni&&a because they’ve emulated EVERYTHING we’ve done from the way they wear their hair(y’all weren’t getting tapers and fades in the 80’s) to the clothes to the speech etc etc etc. hiphop could have only come from an American demographic a very unique and set apart American demographic. The vernacular inflection couldn’t have come from Spanish it just couldn’t have. Empirical data found within the historical record is untouchable period. Lol! FOH
@@TheJayster571 maybe you lack the mental aptitude and fortitude to comprehend the empirical data found within the historical record. Boriquas imitate and emulate everything Foundational Black Americans do and have done. Tapers and fades didn’t come from boriquas. Y’all calling each other what blacks call each other but we don’t call each other cabron. Hmm.
Colon is a liar!
Bro we need to start listening to our ancestors. We have no friends
Wow. You slapped him around pretty good, in under 2 minutes. Yeah, he's running all over town Still trying to rewrite History. Can't wait to hear his new Asop Fables. He's a very strange fellow..... Zulu King Amin ♠️
strange and determined. appreciate you bro
Brother P.H.A.S.E.2 seen signatures coming from Manhattan, back when no trains in the Bronx was hit
Absolutely, it would have been good to hear what he would say about the Philly movement.
this clown left the Bronx when he was 12, moved 2 Rochester
I guess the PRs was really getting it in over there rite 😂
He's a damn Outsider. Sitting around trying to Write ALL THE RULES we're supposed to follow... And answer to his crazy ass 🤣.. Reciting "The Elements" as if it's Law. NEVER want to touch the 5th Element, which is THE KNOWLEDGE. Who's KNOWLEDGE may I ask........ Zulu King Amin ♠️
absolutely, knowledge of SELF on the blk hand side 👋🏾😂
the way he is blaming the crime wave (that doesnt exist) on Hip-Hop.... yeah, that dudes the 'outsider' 😂
This is what I know and I'm in my 60s:
The DJing and MCing thing actually began here in Brooklyn with the DJs from King Charlie's sound system in the late 1960s at Summer block parties and park jams.
Queens dudes like the Disco Twins elevated DJing by introducing turntables tricks like beat juggling and tandem cutting.
Long Island DJs were the first ones to do battles
Harlem DJs were the first to do the club circuit.
Disco King Mario was the first DJ from the Bronk to do jams in the projects, then came Kool Herc and his crew.
I heard that Philly were the first to do graffiti and then the guys in New Jersey did it after them and then it came to NYC.
I heard the first B-Boys actually came from the Lower East Side and then it reached the East Harlem kids and then made it's way to the Bronx.
Hip Hop is New York culture, It didn't start up in the Bronx, but it was consolidated and solidified there as they borrowed from everywhere else.
What never sat right with me is how they collectively lied and acted like they created everything which isn't true.
I hope someday someone makes a documentary telling the real true story about what the corporations named hip hop.
We never called it that, white people took what DJ Hollywood used to say on his tapes and gave it that name as a diss to all the black and brown people doing what they didn't understand.
Hip Hop is a pejorative and we fell for it...
thanks for the response.
According to the doc 'Founding Fathers' King Charles did not set up a system till 72. Flowers and half a dozen mobile systems were already running when he started. If he was truly the source of sound system culture his name should be much more prominent amongst his peers at the time (like Herc). Much more points to Flowers. IMO people are trying to elevate King Charles because he is Jamaican and they are looking for a JA source because the myth of Herc bringing the culture from JA is failing. And Herc himself says he was inspired by DJs 1970 and earlier.
I am actually very interested in Graff moving from Philly to Jersey, if you have any info on that (not from CornBread) let me know.
@@AKiEM.Yeha this guy thought he was being slick, trying to slide in King Charles. Bottomline Jamaicans got theior sound system culture form FBAs. There is actual video documentation of the Jamaican elders/pioneers of sound system culture, stating that the sound ssytem culture form FBAs.
And here's what Herc has to say.
ruclips.net/video/FpTYpiWJa2Q/видео.html
yup - King Charles in line for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame🤣
@@AKiEM. First I wanna say thanks, I watched that Founding Fathers doc you recommended and it was good info which confirmed what I remembered.
King Charlie himself that his sound sytem was out in the parks in Brooklyn and Queens around 1967/1968, that's still long before 1973 when Herc started.
Once again thanks for putting me on to that documentary.
@@AKiEM.
They trying to suggesrt Hip-Hop came form this?
ruclips.net/video/rycxxd9zMQY/видео.html
The Question is more like
Where was it given a name
And where did the movement start.
We know the music
Is soul funk Rock n Roll.
No one in NY in that Era copied anything from down south.
Trust me
NY was in a Class by itself trend setting
Global.
Plenty people from NY especially ones who never traveled believe NY invented everything - common misconception
Down south was considered country to a New Yorker.
Black folks in every city considered down south “country”. That was a BA outlook.
No diss facts
Philly started tagging
In 1965
Ny can take it back to 1963
What happened in 63?
I am not Latino but Yes Hip hop is from the Bronx.
there is no 1 place where ANY music is created unless theres an agenda like CIA counter culture music Beatles/mamas & papas were linked 2 a CIA plot 2 stop young ppl from protesting the Veitnam War
so if ur saying hiphop was created in NY exclusively, perhaps another plot? It was made clear in that secret meeting in 91 that they would use hiphop 2 start private prison industry