Should LS engines be allowed in Dirt racing?

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  • @lukk4273
    @lukk4273 Месяц назад +9

    That bit with the wife seeing your location was hilarious.😂

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +2

      lol, I call her safety mom, and with all the issues we’ve had lately she’s on high alert.
      She’s the glue that’s held us together here lately. I’m truly blessed to have her.

  • @homegrownson
    @homegrownson Месяц назад +8

    In the 50's, 60' & beyond it was Run what you brung, no matter if a poor guy on a budget or Rich guy throwing cash at everything until it drips off a car. Thats what made it special, having to outsmart someone outspending you and having better gear and many times a staff or crew against you and maybe your buddy or brother. A LS or any other motor that you can fit and make pass a safety inspection should be able to run. Racing is about stepping up, facing the best of the best to Be the Best of the Best, the only thing that Rich guy cant buy is the balls to run fast enough to beat you

    • @Seeitatwhatitis
      @Seeitatwhatitis 20 дней назад +1

      Unfortunately it's not about balls enough to go fast as anymore, it's spending stupid money on shocks and tools to drag race off the turns of boring slick tracks.

  • @arkansasjon2171
    @arkansasjon2171 Месяц назад +6

    Hahah, my wife would be shitting too. Love seeing that old shoebox out there racing, super cool

  • @oldgrizz8720
    @oldgrizz8720 Месяц назад +2

    Loved seeing the 56 Chevy out there. Reminded me of my youth. Sad to see the stands so empty. One dirt track closed where I live but the other one is still open. There is also a really nice asphalt track near by. Racing is getting so expensive that many drives are being forced out. 4 cylinder divisions are growing. I still like the Street Stock division best it is still budget friendly old school racing.

  • @clicks59
    @clicks59 Месяц назад +1

    Awesome video! I love hometown tracks… I live near All American Speedway which is located in Roseville Ca. It opened in 1957. My dad started taking us there in the late 60’s. I have seriously great memories of the early days there. It has changed a lot over the years. It’s still alive but barely. I remember the trip getting there. Nothing but golden fields in the summer. Lots of wrecking yards. Roseville is a railroad town with lots of history. Man, I wish I could go back in time. Your video reminds me of the simplicity Roseville once had. Thank you for sharing this experience and great job making it. I really enjoyed watching it. Best of luck with your shoulder!

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you very much. We’re still kind of living in the past here in north central Arkansas, and honestly I wouldn’t want it any other way

    • @manga12
      @manga12 Месяц назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 timecapsles in time and living history is something I like, keeping alive to a degree they way it was is the way it is based on those books on old hot rods and performace cars in the hey day, and even into the 1990's you could still find some of it that were 1950's and 60's leftovers, even eldora while it had the offices in the middle in the 1990's it didn't have all the food trucks the suites and inner fence or jumbotron like today, I love it today as it is its like a mini fair, but it still felt like a local track in the mid 90's first times I went there and it was still the worlds fastest highbanked clay ovel before florida took that record in barbervill, beside teh old style race cars look way neater then the boxes of the 70's onward, but its always been a money game for most, it was just way cheaper back in the day, and as for weeklies few run them anymore, though up till just after the pandemic it was still somewhat common, now for most its several specials only, even kokomo and thats one of the best dirt tracks in indiana some will say, and the two times I went there for winged sprint racing it did not disappoint and lots of wrecks including the great kyle larson, he flipped but was ok messed up his car pretty bad though and was the day before his first indy 500 practice this year, while he was qualifying though I stopped by and was talking with his wife katline and watching his kids play, and hung out with his brother in law brad sweet, thats the thing in dirt even the big stars dont have the untouchable feeling, unlike nascar indycar, 24 hour racing or formula 1 where you cant get close, the dirt and usac you can get right up and in the pits and watch with the families of the drivers even offer to pitch in a little and twice got to help push silvercrown cars up to the grid or roll them so the atv they had or push truck could get to them, my small small part of being part of it once you know the drivers and teams especially when they are from ones area, such as in winged racing zeb wise, and silver crown derek bischak or having been the same places talk about how fun the lakes up there are. but with track closures its harder and harder to find a place to go a few times for the shows you like to see even this year we lost gas city and southbend raceway they problably wont reopen but you never know.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@manga12 that’s why I love that 56 the way I do. I represents hope for the future of grassroots motorsports to me.
      Like you said, money ruins it most of the time, and I’m excited to see a track with a steadily increasing car count.

    • @manga12
      @manga12 Месяц назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 yea any increse in car count is good even if there are fewer people in the stands, I mean its still gets crowds but they arn't what they used to be with compeating forms of entertainment but there is still an audiance that likes speed and competition just look at e racing that has a good following, and rc racing is in some circles a big thing, I mean they even got a competition at the chilli bowl for it I kid you not.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@manga12 I’m mostly into drag racing these days, and they even have R/C drag shootouts. Sometimes for big money.

  • @dawnhash6068
    @dawnhash6068 Месяц назад +2

    We have known Levi since he was young. All about tradition and raising great kids!! Can’t say enough good about him and his family❤

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      They all really struck me as good people.
      Seeing the family walk down the front stretch after the win clapping was awesome.

  • @MrRatfink56
    @MrRatfink56 29 дней назад

    Great job Nathan! Yer gittin' almost professional. That 56 reminded me of the cars I watched in the 60s and 70s.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  29 дней назад

      @@MrRatfink56 thank you, I’ve been playing with different ways of editing to see what works the best. Eventually I’ll get it figured out.

  • @michaelharrison6978
    @michaelharrison6978 Месяц назад +2

    Awesome video an that 56 so sexy going around is what i grew up to also in 1971 my aunt an uncle took me to my 1st dirt race my mom said did he behave my aunt said he never took his eyes off them race cars hahaha was hooked. Like the man said buy ing hot rod stuff is out of this world now i have 25k in a big block 565 yea its wicked motor but unreal what it cost. If LS keeps price down it should absolutely be allowed. Love the video brother!!

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      @@michaelharrison6978 thank you sir. I’m kind of the same way. One of the few childhood memories that I have is watching my dad race dirt cars and thinking “I’m gonna do that some day”
      I ended up doing it pretty effectively for a couple of years, and I raced outlaw dirt karts for a few years.
      Somehow I always end up back to drag racing, but there is a deep seated love for dirt with its roots way down in my soul.

    • @AEyerly
      @AEyerly Месяц назад

      ​@@bluecollarperformance1331 that 56 looked bad going around that track

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@AEyerly he’s not afraid to send it

  • @THullett06
    @THullett06 Месяц назад +2

    Enjoyed you coming out the other night… come back and see us again!! Troy, announcer

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      I’ll definitely have to make it back over there.
      I had a ball and couldn’t have been made to feel more welcome by the staff and racers.

  • @SaltyMeatHook
    @SaltyMeatHook Месяц назад +2

    Nice video on dirt track racing!

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you. I climbed through the window of a dirt car for the first time at 14, and haven’t been the same since.

  • @Splungers
    @Splungers 21 час назад

    Back in the early 70's, our local tracks ran 3 classes hobby(275 ci.), limited (320 ci.)late model (430 ci.). the cars were all under the same rules,quick changes, weight, tires, etc. 100 cars in the pits every Saturday night. Older Late models were sold "down" and became Limiteds or Hobbys with only an engine change. Good times, gone forever.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  21 час назад

      @@Splungers I was at dirt tracks in the 80’s when my dad was racing, back before late models became wedge bodies. I loved late models as a kid, and still do, but I wish they still looked like cars instead of a box with a wedge nose.

    • @Splungers
      @Splungers 14 часов назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 Agreed! The glory days of metal bodied Chevelles , Fairlanes, Novas,Falcons Darts(a couple of kit cars too), even a few Corvairs added to the mix. I owned and maintained a 64 Failane Late Model in the early 70's a year out of High School.

  • @pisstoffcat5136
    @pisstoffcat5136 Месяц назад +2

    I wanna see a unlimited turbo LS class ,
    Traction
    Wars

  • @slowpoke870
    @slowpoke870 Месяц назад +2

    I would like to throw my 2cents in here with the cost of everything skyrocketing that is probably the most cost effective way to get a race engine. I know 40 years ago I tried the local short track and could not come close to what the other fellow drivers with deep pockets they had.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +2

      It seems like it always becomes a contest to see who can spend their way to the front.
      I’m all about the budget options. The family in this video proves that grass roots racing is still possible, although I think the next step is allowing the best engine GM ever created.
      With a junkyard motor and a simple cam swap you can be competitive.

  • @regdor8187
    @regdor8187 25 дней назад +1

    If any domestic new car manufacturer produced and sold 200,000 or more of any engine specific configuration, it should be allowed and encouraged....

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  25 дней назад

      @@regdor8187 I hadn’t thought about it like that, but that sounds like an excellent way to regulate it.

  • @jasonbaxter5502
    @jasonbaxter5502 15 дней назад

    Asking because I'm not sure. The 55 coming out off the turn, has a little bounce. Is it the track or is it just hooking up good on the track.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  15 дней назад

      @@jasonbaxter5502 they do a good job of prepping the track, so it has a lot of bite.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  15 дней назад

      @@jasonbaxter5502 I think what you’re seeing is body roll when it bites from the slide around the corner

  • @LSX427
    @LSX427 Месяц назад +1

    My car is ls powered in a dirt superstock class. Factory bodies. 390 Cid max. I have received some pushback but mostly all the racers are all for it and dig my program...my motor is a cam and drop in piston 6.0ls from a junk yard.made 431hp to the tire for less than $3500.
    Never seen a machine shop. Dirt cheap big power

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 Месяц назад

      First 2 seasons were carb'd and distributor combinations on a 6.0. This year I got a complete junkyard 6.0 and kept it efi....stock intake, injectors...cam, springs and pistons only mods.431whp 443 ft lbs

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@LSX427 that’s the thing, you can do something like that and keep up with guys with high dollar engines.
      It puts racing at a competitive level back with reach for the average blue collar guy

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 Месяц назад

      @bluecollarperformance1331 yup. Couldn't agree more.
      Motors are plentiful in wrecking yards. Literally put a cam and valve springs in them and it's a reliable 7000 rpm race motor. 4.8 will make 375hp....5.3 425-475hp and 6.0 500+.....stock block, crank, rods, rings,bearings,oil pump, rocker arms, heads, intake manifold, injectors, coils, plug wires, starter, water pump, timing chain and gears, valve covers....seriously there is no bigger bang for the buck. The HUGE benefit is there is no machine shops involved.
      My mods on my motor....+4cc dome pisons.( drop in, no bore) 11-1 compression w 68cc head. Pump 92 octane. 323-236 howards cam, BTR valve springs, holley 92mm throttle body....(only because originally dbw) and a ct525 oil pan I got a smoking deal on...when it pops...150k mile long blocks are available everywhere for a couple grand. A weekends work and back at the track. People need to wake up and step out of the dark ages.

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 Месяц назад

      232-236 cam

  • @jayss10
    @jayss10 8 дней назад

    I'm all for LS power, or any power plant but it has to be brought into the fray right. Doing it right breaks down into several categories but the first two that come to my mind are:
    1. Try to integrate with an existing class. Car counts for alot of classes/divisions are sparse as it is. Don't make it any worse by making a LS only division. If you have a 358 late model division have a LS combination/build in mind that falls into that division. The idea of cubic inch limits is a dinosaur mentality. Try to classify things based on head types and flow of the heads. If a guy is running double hump heads SBC heads vs 243 LS heads the LS should probably be limited to 330 cubic inches where the double hump motor should get about 358 which would keep both packages competitive.
    2. This ties back to item #1, but keep the horsepower and torque levels similar to the current power packages in the divisions you will integrate into. You don't want a bunch of teams scrapping existing power plants just to stay competitive with a new engine platform. That is a surefire way to chase teams out of racing. This is an example on the extreme side of things but we'll use the A4MP program that Donny Schatz worked on with his brother. The A4MP motor was a 427 LS platform that used all OEM castings without down nozzles in the heads. The motor was competitive in testing with regular 410 engines. It cost around $25,000 where a traditional SBC 410 at the time was $45,000 or so. For whatever reason that program never got off the ground but you need the existing package to remain competitive.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  8 дней назад

      @@jayss10 I 100% agree, and the limited cubic inches seems like a sensible way of doing it. I think once people realize that some junkyard LS with a cam isn’t going to automatically lap their $5-$10k pro built race motor that they may become more widely accepted.

  • @tornadermotorsports8534
    @tornadermotorsports8534 22 дня назад

    Yep…. Just started a class in nc that’s all lm7 5.3 you can run it fuel injected or carb

  • @holdenmazingo4964
    @holdenmazingo4964 9 дней назад

    Does the 3 speed bolt up to a ls?

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  9 дней назад +1

      @@holdenmazingo4964 as well as it bolts up to any other early transmission. You’ll be short one bolt in the bell housing, and it requires a mishmash of early and late clutch components, but it works fine.

  • @johngoodwin2384
    @johngoodwin2384 9 дней назад

    Fear of change is the only reason the LS platform has been blocked from more use in circle track. Schwanke had dirt packages twenty years ago. Very few listened. LS had a long run, but are now kinda old school. Get with the times dirt nation 🏁

  • @madddog9xderby447
    @madddog9xderby447 6 дней назад

    Eventually there wont be much choice ol 4 bolt mains are getting harder to find for the low budget guys

  • @approachingtarget.4503
    @approachingtarget.4503 26 дней назад

    The l.s. has made its way into b mods and other diet racing already. The cost has sky rocketed when packages are required by rules. $6500 minimum. Racers can still build first gen small blocks for half that amount.
    Tracks are closing by the hundred every year. Don't make it more difficult to attract racers and drive up cost.
    Another step that can be taken is to push out the older drivers and bring in new.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  26 дней назад +3

      @@approachingtarget.4503 I get what you’re saying, but I’m not talking about crate motors, im talking about junkyard notwithstanding a cam and valve springs.
      Just to a $1000 claim rule on the long block and it should pretty well police itself

  • @deanstephens5940
    @deanstephens5940 4 дня назад

    I still think that dirt track racing should be about building what you can afford. LS motors are relatively inexpensive and it doesn't take a lot of work to get ample hp from them, either. Its supposed to be fun.

  • @Tunda2
    @Tunda2 4 дня назад

    Yes. Great video man

  • @21rc-37
    @21rc-37 18 дней назад

    What track is this

  • @lukk4273
    @lukk4273 Месяц назад +2

    To be honest I didnt know ls engines are not allowed.

  • @outfitsgarage88
    @outfitsgarage88 Месяц назад

    Where is this track at.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@outfitsgarage88 Flippin Arkansas. Just a few miles up the road from Cotter Arkansas, which is known as the trout fishing capitol of the world.

    • @outfitsgarage88
      @outfitsgarage88 Месяц назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 oh ok. we race at Batesville and Harrisburg at times when we have the car going. Will you be back to Sikeston for NNN this year

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      @@outfitsgarage88 I will, I’m recovering from shoulder surgery, and on July 19 I’m going in for a double hernia repair, so I’m not sure which one of my cars (or trucks) I’ll be bringing, but I’ll be there for sure.
      I’ve got one car that I haven’t shown on the channel that is the one I’m hoping to bring. I really just depends on my physical limitations as to whether it’ll be done in time or not.

    • @outfitsgarage88
      @outfitsgarage88 Месяц назад

      @bluecollarperformance1331 I have to do a little work on my ol 75 C10 to get it up and going again. Hopefully lol

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад

      @@outfitsgarage88 I met quite a few people there last year that I really enjoyed.
      I’m looking forward to coming back this year.

  • @geopars9396
    @geopars9396 12 дней назад

    Sure of the year make and model allows it. 78 camaro pure stock with an ls? Kind of defeats the purpose of pure..... stock

  • @rebeitler1
    @rebeitler1 12 дней назад

    LS is todays small block. Why aren't they legal? Probably get parts cheaper in some cases. No idea why dirt wants to pin tech to a 50's design?

  • @sunshinez-2017
    @sunshinez-2017 14 дней назад

    what track is this one driver say missouri im over in pevely at I55

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  14 дней назад +1

      @@sunshinez-2017 North Central Arkansas speedway in Flippin AR

    • @sunshinez-2017
      @sunshinez-2017 13 дней назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 that’s a little bit out
      Thanks 🙏

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  13 дней назад

      @@sunshinez-2017 no problem. They run a good program over there if you ever get itchy feet

  • @HeadFlowInc
    @HeadFlowInc Месяц назад +1

    Maybe they’ll start by allowing the weird 1999/2000 LS engines with the iron heads? Might be only the 6.0 🤔🤔🤔

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, that odd ball 6.0 with iron 317’s, and the extended flange on the crank. I think this car is a good example of why the should allow them. For $1k you can have an engine you can compete with, and it obviously didn’t just run all over the 23 degree motors

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 Месяц назад

      @HeadFlowInc yes. That was my program for the last 2 years. Cast iron headed 6.0.
      I had the heads tested for flow...247cfm at 550 lift not too bad.
      At that time I was running the holley split single plane manifold and the gm front distributor and fuel pump drive. This year I went to a more traditional LS set up. L96 with the square port aluminum heads and EFI. Stock truck intake...but using Holley terminator electronics. Just easier to tune...and allows me to get rid of all my mechanical gauges.

    • @baims8367
      @baims8367 23 дня назад

      Pretty much there what a 602 crate engine is Vortec heads

  • @n5xqj
    @n5xqj 19 дней назад

    i ran a 55 back in early 70 had a ball

  • @paulmoss7940
    @paulmoss7940 19 дней назад

    LS3 366CI hard to beat. One of the best if not THE best sbc ever.

  • @user-qd5zn2ne4g
    @user-qd5zn2ne4g 16 дней назад

    I had plenty gas in me

  • @baims8367
    @baims8367 23 дня назад

    Run what ya brung same carb , tires , weight everything else have at it ..

  • @davecoberly3768
    @davecoberly3768 5 дней назад

    Yes, that and a Coyote.

  • @somethinburnin
    @somethinburnin 12 дней назад

    I don't care what you drop in. Bring it!! "nO cAnTeD vAlvEs, nO hEmI, nO Ls"
    No, You can bring your LS, You can bring canted valve heads, you can bring Gen 3 Hemis, You can bring a fuckin inline 6 for all I care.

  • @MississippiDan1
    @MississippiDan1 Месяц назад

    Absolutely yes, LS engines are over 20 years old already... Even fuel injection should be able to be used

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  Месяц назад +1

      @@MississippiDan1 I agree, but I’d limit it to stock ecu so there wouldn’t be any trickery with G meters and traction control

    • @MississippiDan1
      @MississippiDan1 Месяц назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331 that's some forward thinking and good... Heck yeah

    • @baims8367
      @baims8367 23 дня назад

      @@bluecollarperformance1331no need for ecu

  • @merylpelosi8485
    @merylpelosi8485 17 дней назад

    Since most of them come from wrecking yards anyway, why not? Their shitty oiling system is the great equalizer.

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  17 дней назад

      @@merylpelosi8485 I’m with you on that, lol.
      I had a 5.3 just randomly explode the oil pump in my pinto.

  • @NakedDave100
    @NakedDave100 29 дней назад

    As long as Ford is allowed to run their Crate Motors!!!

    • @bluecollarperformance1331
      @bluecollarperformance1331  29 дней назад +2

      @@NakedDave100 dude, I’m not going to lie, I don’t normally check notifications this late, but I saw your username and had to.
      As far as the crate motors, I think they should be left out unless you want to open the door for 1000ho gm crate motors. I think a 5.4 should be allowed just like the 5.3.

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 22 дня назад

      How cool would it be to see all junk yard cam only ls, coyote and hemisphere out there....I so badly want to develop a class like that

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 22 дня назад

      Ugh...hemi....autocorrect

    • @LSX427
      @LSX427 22 дня назад

      6.o, 5.7 hemi, 5.0 coyote..

  • @johnjessup1457
    @johnjessup1457 26 дней назад

    Turbo ls no less than 1000hp 😁

  • @ogles824
    @ogles824 15 дней назад

    LS motors in dirt track racing, absolutely yes! The cost savings of running these motors plus the durability it’s a no brainer. Both Jegs and Summit racing sell a kit to convert them to a carb fairly cheap. The amount of of small block Chevy motors from wrecking yards and other sources has got to be drying up and soon if you run an SBC you’ll be forced to run an aftermarket block that would cost more than an LS motor bare, a lot more. I can’t believe the major dirt sanctioning bodies haven’t opened up the sprint, modified, late model, and street/hobby stock classes to allow the use of the LS platform.

  • @blackbilly1965
    @blackbilly1965 Месяц назад +1

    Yes

  • @user-pr1wn7ft5m
    @user-pr1wn7ft5m 16 дней назад

    yes

  • @jrwarner5342
    @jrwarner5342 Месяц назад

    That car don't live to far from me