How have things changed since Portland passed its daytime ban on homeless camps?
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2023
- Portland's daytime ban on homeless camps has been on the books for a month, though city officials pledged to conduct a "phased-in" approach to enforcement, beginning with an education phase. KGW has yet to find much sign of that outreach, however.
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From "Keep Portland Weird" to "Awesome Place to be Homeless"? Portland needs a shock and awe campaign to shake off this terrible image.
Laid back. Bohemian. Weird. That's all great, but it's a fine line between those things and an ugly mess. Yes, at this point Portland is so out of control that some draconian measures will be needed.
And don’t forget the slogan: “Portland, the city that works!” or something like this?! Also, the City of Roses. This will change when the homeless take over the Washington Park.
Allowing people to camp out in the city streets caused this. The minute people realized that they can do this the word spread out, Portland an awesome place to be homeless, you had the start of a snowball effect. Hundreds of people overnight decided, why look for a job when I can just camp out here.
@@CytoplasmicGoo A lot (most?) of these people are simply not employable. Not in their present condition, at least. With help I'm sure many could return to the work force. They're at rock bottom....and have grown accustomed to it. That's the problem.
@@CytoplasmicGoohere's the funny thing I know a lot of people who have jobs that are on the then have a hard time finding housing because they're on the streets
"An awesome place to be homeless" - what does this mean to my fellow Portland residents? These people want to come here for free... hang out - shit on the side walks and steal cars...........
Again, the woman with the poor cat goes to show that 2/3 are not even from Oregon.
She fantasist homeless car thief actually told the blatant truth. People come here because ‘Portland is an awesome place to be homeless’. That’s the GD story KGW!
Far-leftists want free stuff. What do you think Portland is full of?
Fentanyl and Tranq horse tranquilizer destroy humans mentally and physically beyond the point of repair very quickly. Street encampments are nothing else but lawless open air fentanyl markets brewing all sorts of crime and violence.
"Portland...An awesome place to be homeless." That says it all.
@@nunya_eva I think that is an unfair generalization. I'm sure there are some that are homeless from circumstances that were beyond their control and/or from just bad luck. You ever hear of the 2008 recession? Maybe they then became drug addicts after the fact. I'm not defending the actions of those that become addicts I'm just saying it's not right to automatically assume that people that are homeless are always in that situation because they are low life scum. Instead of judgement, why not show a little compassion for those that are less fortunate than you?
Wow ...
@@ecobasetech4558 try it. You'll get screwed over and over again. Then you'll be as unfeeling for these people like the rest of us.
@@ecobasetech4558 I absolutely agree with you to some point. Yes, there was much loss in 2008 for a lot of ppl and to generalize is not right or is it fair. Ppl may be homeless for various reason, but why do drugs? Starting a drug habit worsen the problem one is already in. Maybe they should clear some land and let the homeless pitch their tent in that area. Let them also be taught how to keep the area they live in clean. HOMELESSNESS is in every state in America. The welfare office also give ppl one way trips to Hawaii where they live on the streets.
There's houseless/homeless and there are Street People
What a joke, well at least we paid for plenty of crack pipes and tarps to go around. Portland is an awesome place to be homeless, maybe not so much for the rest of us anymore…
Saying you came to Portland because you thought it was an awesome place to be homeless at is about the worse response you could give to anyone living here.
That’s all of them, they have came for this exact reason and people are stupid to realize they’re getting the run around now by these criminals
Fentanyl and Tranq horse tranquilizer destroy humans mentally and physically beyond the point of repair very quickly. Street encampments are nothing else but lawless open air fentanyl markets brewing all sorts of crime and violence.
But it's true. We treat them like royalty here.
San Francisco is way better than Portland to be homeless at.
and you've been homeless in both cities? @@jeffdur1330
I have absolutely no sympathy for a criminal who moved to Portland because they thought it was a great place to be homeless.
We need to take away her garbage pile and buy her a bus ticket to wherever she came here from.
I feel sorry for the kitten.
Other cities are actually buying people a ticket to come to Portland. A big part of the fault lies with the voters who refuse to elect people that will change the problem
@@markr8796me too. 😭 and I think I saw an adult cat too. 😢
Being homeless is NOT the same as being a criminal!
What about homeless people who are NOT criminals?
I feel worse for that kitten than that homeless non-Portlander car thief
Wow I feel sorry that you think that way.
@@diamondintheruffrecoveryWhy? An animal is an innocent creature, a junkie thief? Not so much.
@@diamondintheruffrecoveryregardless of how you feel (I am a democrat) making a domesticated animal live outside with you is a fucked up thing to do.
100%. Innocent,helpless animal with no voice. She shouldn’t be allowed to have the animal(s). And in this heat? It’s cruel! 🤬
Meow
I've been saying that most of our "homeless" are just here on a crime vacation and everyone looks at me like I'm Rush Limbaugh. We need to get tough on these people, they're taking advantage of us.
I've been here for 25 years now, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that'll never happen.
'These people' is a pretty Rush Limbaugh thing to say...
Homeless people are not taking advantage of anyone. We are not getting ANY of the money that's supposed to be helping us. The politicians and nonprofit organizations get everything. The only 'assistance' we ever get is 'transitional housing' - ie, motel rooms. However - there's a time limit on those, and as no affordable housing units exist for people to transition into, everyone just winds up back on the street. It is a complete waste of taxpayer money - but that is NOT the fault of homeless people! The cost of living is currently so high that even two people, working full time, at minimum wage, are not going to be able to afford rent on a one bedroom apartment in ANY county in the entire state. So where the hell are all of these people supposed to go?
@@earthdaddythose nonworking low energy camper's? Or junkies.(.I can say that because of Drs getting their claws in me during the opioid kickoff.)
"They-Them= "Those People". What exactly is wrong with that statemen? Seems pretty accurate to me.
Educational phase - not enforcing the ban - Portland is such a joke…
If the government wants to spend my tax money for housing these people just put them in jail and make them work! I can't support spending taxes on this otherwise.
Sorry to say it but Oregon voters made it so incarcerated people can't work for anything less than industry standard wages, which is what I'm guessing are union scale. And working while incarcerated has been a voluntary thing for quite awhile now. People either don't read what they vote for or they're stupid, maybe both.
@@ffmachinist61so you're fine with slavery?
@@DoNotImpose Voluntarily working isn't slavery. And if you committed a crime that requires imprisonment maybe you should be responsible for your living costs, not the tax payer
@@ffmachinist61 people don't volunteer to be exploited by capitalism it's very much forced and doing it to prisoners is even more blatant slavery especially sense we live in a police state.
@DoNotImpose lol. Slavery never ended. They just give you enough money for food, clothing, and shelter for your work instead of give those things directly to you. If you work for a living, you are a slave.
Wow, is that our marketing plan for tourism? Great place for the homeless.
It’s already Portlands international reputation. The damage is done
Yeah, that’s what the rest of the country thinks when they hear about Oregon & that lame ass ad campaign with the puppets isn’t gonna change any minds.
Move them all to the Mojave Desert. Mel Gibson will be the mayor of Barter Town. Welcome to the Thunderdome!!
Homelessness Industrial complex. Making a lot of people rich in the government and the not-for-profit organizations
All that money and no oversight.
‘Teach’ homeless individuals? Odds are they know about the rules and choose not to follow them. I worked in MH field for 40 years. Many individuals choose not to use shelters due to drug use…without enforcement nothing will change. When will city officials accept reality, and research?
You're right. A lot of these people....we don't know how many, really....simply don't want to live by any rules. Others have deep mental health and/or addiction problems. The two groups have some overlap, surely. Others want and will accept help. I'm 100% OK my tax dollars being spent on those who want and will accept help and who agree that society has rules to live by. For the others, well, it might come down to [some form of] incarceration, for their own good and for the good of the community. Many homeless people have hit rock bottom and lifting them back up will be a huge undertaking, if possible at all. It's very sad. The fixes will not be cheap; sometimes they'll be unpleasant.
Fentanyl and Tranq horse tranquilizer destroy humans mentally and physically beyond the point of repair very quickly. Street encampments are nothing else but lawless open air fentanyl markets brewing all sorts of crime and violence.
When people stop electing the same type. You keep voting for the same people yet think things will change
@@DoudDand there are actually some who have jobs and don't do crimes or drugs yet still don't get help to find a place. Homelessness is a big business. People make tens of thousands of dollars (and more) and don't want to lose that. Do people really think there's nothing that can be done with the millions of dollars spent every month?
Only when the voters demand it. They keep electing fool Ted Wheeler because he gives them what their bleeding hearts want. Why they want what they want is a mystery but they keep voting for needles and sht on the streets.
Bring back chain gangs and make them work 10 hour days. Make them clean up other neighborhoods. Once word gets out it will disincentivise more showing up.
Someone has to take a tough stance sooner or later. Treating these people with kid gloves is a joke and they know it.
“ it’s an awesome place to be homeless “ are u kidding me?? She’s not even trying to better herself
Exactly, everyone is coming to the US looking for a better life thinking everything will be free and it doesn't work like that. Everyone must carry their own weight. Everyone sneaking in is finding out it was a honey pot. Nothing is free. You want something you have to be symbiotic and work for it. Everyone else has to so do they.
@@ammitthedevourerofsoulsyou only get maybe a tenth of what you work for and most of the value of your labor goes to the rich. It's a distopian nightmare. Can you really blame people for giving up?
@@DoNotImpose They had a good run. Maybe they shouldn't have allowed the Roe V Wade decision. You take away the voices of trillions of babies eventually it'll do the same to them to balance the scales. I'm on earth as well. I have lived within my means, I obey the ten commandments, I chose God over Babylon the US. Babylon always falls. Maybe what everyone is feeling is the planet suffering because of all the mining, abuse, raped of resources and turned into a landfill. If Gaia the planet is the motherboard and she's suffering everyone else would be as well. The government provides but the citizens are the ones buying it. It takes two. What is anyone going to fix it? It's actually extremely simple to fix this problem but no one is willing to do it. This could be fixed over night. Too much pride. It'll happen either way. You giving up everyone giving up that's God's way of getting everyone on their knees. Almost like it was written in a book thousands of years ago. It's literally that easy. Getting on their knees and surrending to God's will. God's house God's rules. Either way everything is being removed, rights, channels, grids, water filtration, food supply, gas supply, banks are shutting down almost every day now. Either you understand or you don't.
@@DoNotImpose You signed a soul contract for this earth school experiment by the way.
@@ammitthedevourerofsouls souls are not a thing. This is part of the problem people are just really stupid and clinging to old BS.
What amazes me is how long Portland politicians took to realize that their foolish policies would drive all businesses and investors away and destroy their city before coming to the conclusion that something should be done to reverse the damage.
Too little, too late.
When did they realize it??? They still promote this and the voters still vote for this. That whole city deserves its status
@@VioletThatcher Do you actually believe the crap you just wrote???? Humanity??? How many of these "good homeless" people are you housing??? Remember to sleep with one eye open, fool.
Where were these people before they became homeless? I am wanting to rewind this. Fifteen, twenty years ago, we did not have this in Portland. So, what were these peple doing at that time? So, did they lose a job and could not get another one? Is it the 2009 shake up that put some of these people on the street? Right now there is a great need for workers of all sorts, seems it should be pretty easy to get them reconnected. Why is it so difficult? Drug problems, how prevalent is it? What percentage of the people living on the street are addicts that are not able to work at all? A lot of these people collect all sorts of stuff and part of the problem is that. If they were campers, and only owned what was essential for camping, they could set up a camp for sleeping, then pack it up in the morning. This rule does not seem enforceable to me.
Yes we did. Not as big, but yeah we sure did. We've just used up all the close in space with Pearl & South Waterfront & gentrification of NE, so no place for them to tuck away anymore.
Now that you say, I think I recall over 25 years ago or so, as The Pearl an NW was being developed, many people living marginally in old dilapidated buildings became displaced. there was much drug activity there but mainstream just looked the other way it seems... @@edition-deluxe
Homeless people need to be forced to get help. Waiting on them to accept help is costly because they rather live on the streets with no rules but they complain their life sucks.
Move them all to the Mojave Desert. Mel Gibson will be the mayor of Barter Town. Welcome to the Thunderdome!!
Help is jail or long term institutionalization. Too bad the institutes which formerly warehoused societies ne'er-do-wells are all gone.
"They remain in the educational phase of this camping ban." Someone's getting a hard lesson all right.
It seems to take leftists 20 years to figure out a big grift, so obsessed with "compassion" as they are.
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Man those pods have AC and aren't much smaller then some available studio apartments in the city, minus a bathroom and kitchenet I suppose. If I were homeless (and I live on that edge every month) that looks like a very comfortable place for me to start putting my life back together, but that's only after the city (state) can stop corporate and investor greed and provide affordable rentals for people that make 19$ an hour or less. It doesn't matter how many pods you build if we do not get some kind of government oversight on the cost of housing, people who are homeless will remain homeless. When the loss of one pay check due to illness, weather, or some other event, can put a person or family out due to eviction, we will always have a problem. Homes at the basic level should not be considered commodities, they should be consider just like food and water. I'm not going to debate using larger homes and amenities as commodities. If you can afford them, then by all means, the seller should be able to sell for what ever someone is willing to pay. Basic no frills housing is something completely different and incentivizing developers and even (cant believe I am about to say this) investment corporations to build and rent sub $1000 rentals is absolutely needed to reduce the homeless population. Its even more important then providing addiction and mental health services. Why seek help for addiction or mental health so that I can work, when even if I am working I can not afford a place to sleep. Doesn't mean I don't hope that other homeless don't hear what this lady has to say about homelessness not being great in Portland. I work hard too and think you get what you work for. It just shouldn't be ridiculously out of reach for most working people regardless of income level.
Agreed and I’m right there with you! 😢
I screenshotted your comment as most people don’t understand this and I may need to borrow your words to try and educate them. My family, that is.
government oversight
Ummmm,,,,NO!! 12million for 200 pods! lol
a good start would be for you to buy some rental properties and or some homes and rent them out for free or a small fee,,,you could then use that money for taxes,insurances and payments etc.......or maybe you think someone else should do it ? cheap housing is not the root of all their problems,,,far far from it
@@tomstiel7576 Good day to you. What you are speaking about is a private citizen investing in a limited number of properties in order to make a living, that is awesome, make some money at least when the toilet or shower isn't working I have a way to contact you to get it fixed. What I was speaking about is large investment funds that are burred in even larger investment companies that are subsequently owned by companies such as Black Rock, at this point you can not find a private owner to get things fixed. These companies come in and buy up all of the available properties, build more, and then jack up the price until it is no longer affordable unless you come up with ways to subsidize the cost, like living in a two bedroom home with 10 people. This might sound good for a small property owner at first as it will increase the rent potential, but at some point they will be coming for your properties as well and they will find a way to take them for pennies if you do not sell out first. You say regulation is bad, but sir/madam I ask you to look at what's happened since the deregulation of the airline industry, fewer airline companies, smaller seats, higher prices, more people packed on one flight, and where did the peanuts go? Look at the deregulation of import tax's, a little thing called NAFTA. Imagine if they deregulated the food and restaurant industry. We would have dinning rooms that were meant for 50 tables filled with 150 tables and food safety would be all but extinct. We need to regulate the real-estate industry, investors, and local governments. We need to build affordable homes and then work on getting people off the street, first the families with kids, then work on the addiction issue. Regulation with oversight is the key to getting our financial system back in control and then helping those that need it who are on the streets. Our cities already look like third world countries and its only going to get worse without federal regulation. Corporations should not have the same rights as individual citizens. If you or I go bankrupt, we have to deal with that and build back up. Corporations don't care. They go bankrupt, lay off their employees, then incorporate under a different name. The investors have lost nothing and people are left to struggle on their own. I'll stop here, but I'm telling you we need to figure out a way through regulation to incentivize these big pocket investors and developers to either build affordable housing or to find another market segment to invest in that has less impact on people and families.
How many millions just for a 200 small houses? Tf
Head of blanchet house makes 130k a year. Think he has incentive to ever see the problem solved?
whats the point? teaching them about it? How about just tell them they cant camp there, give them a choice to go to a common camping sanctioned area or jail or banned from the city limits.
Society with out rules and laws will become chaos!
Move them all to the Mojave Desert. Mel Gibson will be the mayor of Barter Town. Welcome to the Thunderdome!!
Society without _enforced_ rules and laws will be come chaos.
What struck me was minute 3:30, the person under the Morrison Bridge and her comments about Portland being welcoming to homeless people which is why she decided to move here. I would have loved the reporter to ask her a few more questions about it. Where is she originally from, where did she hear about Portland being welcoming and just let her talk and listen to the answers. Maybe they will re-interview her and ask some more questions casually about this... in fact, I wish they would ask more questions about this and why the homeless moved to our area. I'm not coming down on the homeless who move here but I'd really like more info on why they decided to migrate to Portland and look for a commonality if it exists. Just my thoughts... If we are being promoted for something, it would be good to know where that information is coming from and it is obviously out of state.
Legalization of drugs and non enforcement of laws!
Extremely leftist policies (generally soft) are obviously what Portland is known for. People just refuse to say it because they're embarrassed they voted that way.
Also resources are easier to qualify for. That's the street referral and why the homeless come up to ptown
Why Portland: it's the fresh raspberries..
@@thomasauslander3757more like all the fresh meth and fenty 😭😂😂😂
News flash... Living on the streets is NOT CAMPING.
I live here. I moved here from Chicago. This hasta be the worst place I ever lived.
Mike Schmidt: “These cases … I don’t see jail being used, realistically.” WHY NOT?? Why are you afraid to enforce the law? Why do you coddle people who break the law? Why does no one, including the media, pressure you to answer these questions?
Jail time..means free food
She shouldn't be allowed to have cats if she can't take care of herself WTF.
"an awesome place to be homeless at"....yeah, that's the problem. Stop making this city a beacon for a national crisis. We clearly don't have the capacity as a city and the empathy tank is running on E for a lot of folks who live here, pay taxes, and expect those city services to be available. The QoL in this city is bad. I'm glad the public majority's attitude is changing. This clearly can't continue.
It's really hard to feel sorry for Portland when they continue to vote for the same thing over and over
I live in Portland-do not tell these folks where they CAN camp- tell these people , either get employment or get out. there are places all over the area looking for help!
Fentanyl and Tranq horse tranquilizer destroy humans mentally and physically beyond the point of repair very quickly. Street encampments are nothing else but lawless open air fentanyl markets brewing all sorts of crime and violence.
You obviously don't live in Portland if that is your mentality. They love enabling here.
Genuine question, but what about the homeless who do have jobs?
@@bamflr not just why should he, why should you? Why should any of us have to compensate for others poor choices?
Yeah they're looking for people to be their slaves and work for nothing
Why do homeless people insist on being junk collectors???
The idea that a city can be "homeless friendly" is not a sane one. One way or another, people need to be excluded from living on the streets. Work camps and/or asylums are the best solution.. Give people choices for their future, but do not enable them to stay homeless.
Work camps? Really???
@@rhondanewell8558Right?! What century is this person living in?! And “asylums”? These don’t exist anymore here. I haven’t heard this word in about 40 years.
Are you nuts? "work camps"?
Someday, historians and sociologists will look back and wonder how a seemingly educated people, living in a beautiful natural region with a thriving economy, managed to drive the whole thing into a ditch. In less than 25 years they fouled the environment, pitted neighbor against neighbor, promoted crime, eliminated places of employment, and created a self-destructive generation of young people. And they did it by conscious choice - thinking that their decisions were sophisticated and intelligent and compassionate. Portland is looking more like Detroit now.
Well said.
We moved to Portland in 2020. We left June 2023. We literally watched it die. I was physically assaulted by homeless 4 times in those 3 years and sexually assaulted once. I am now permanently disabled because of the last attack which was in the Rose Gardens in Washington Park. My husband grew up in Detroit in the 80s and says Portland is 10x worse. At least in Detroit you could call the police and people were arrested.
Teach them?! LOL. Throw them in jail! It will do them good and maybe get them off drugs. Then they might learn something.
That would be good other than the fact it’ll cost too much money to have them all in jail lol
All of them, forced drug rehab, mental institution, or jail. No other choice and no warnings. That's how you stop this problem
Forced cold turkey quitting and a healthy rehabilitative environment are the best answer. People just need the help and support of other people.
People still cling to the notion that the homeless are " victims of circumstance"., pushed into homelessness by some sad quirk of fate, etc.That is BS , the vast majority of homeless CHOOSE to be homeless ,do NOT want " your help" or "rehabilitation" ., because all they want to do is do drugs and get free stuff. You can't change that with " nice guy" attitudes, arrest them, put them in a quarantined drug free area and job train them. Until we accept that reality, nothing will change.
You both have no idea what you're talking about. Forcing people to do anything never succeeds long term.
@earthdaddy Maybe force isn't the right term, sorry for the misinterpretation; how about: "Complete absence of the drug turning you into a Walking Dead stand-in."
@@earthdaddy The entirety of the legal system, as well as human history, begs to differ. That is EXACTLY how we maintain order, by enforcing it , and we have done so since the dawn of civilization - and yes, it has worked fine.
PORTLAND HAS MORE WAYS OF DOING NOTHING, BUT SAYING A LOT !!! “CITY LEADERSHIP IS A 0”
I'm all for helping people that want to be helped instead of enabled. The sad fact is that some people's rock bottom is six feet under, and there is not one thing anyone can do to change that. I'm a child of an addict so I should know.
“Anyone who sets himself up as “religious” by talking a good game is self-deceived. This kind of religion is hot air and only hot air. Real religion, the kind that passes muster before God the Father, is this: Reach out to the homeless and loveless in their plight, and guard against corruption from the godless world.”
James 1:26-27 MSG
Move them all to the Mojave Desert. Mel Gibson will be the mayor of Barter Town. Welcome to the Thunderdome!!
So you want them to die?
No.@@Gregortheunderlander
Educational phase? How much can you actually learn when you’re using fentanyl all day?
I have worked downtown for over 9 years and all I have seen is the city herd the homeless around like sheep. They have also been their enablers to keep doing drugs with the current drug laws and they do very little to get these people to want to go be part of society. How about you put your foot down and state the law and if they don't like it they can go somewhere else. That is what you expect of us productive people. Why do you feel they need day centers? Where are you going to get the money for these centers? Are you going to just vote into existence another tax without letting people vote on it? The Mayor and the city have made being homeless an acceptable way of life when they should be shown how to get off the street and take care of themselves. If they can not take care of themselves then they need the state to open back up hospitals so that people that suffer from mental illness can be taken care of. As for the lady and many others there are states that give people one way bus tickets to Portland.
There is shelter, you just have to be sober, that's not what they want. So they don't do it.
There's a lot more to it than just drugs. Nobody wants to be bunked next to an insane person or leave their things for fifteen minutes to shower for another temp resident to steal... Use your head.
Facts!
@@svenvaltik5657 they steal your stuff on the streets. The shelter is way safer. .... Use your head.
@@realhatchethead Hard to steal your stuff when you're already in your tent and able to defend it. Use your head...
@@svenvaltik5657 You think nobody is going to take your stuff because you have a tent? You've obviously never been homeless. I was homeless from 16-18 years old. In Portland, OR. You can't tell me nothing about being on the street. I'm speaking from experience.
Exactly what is there to teach? There is a ban on camping during the day. Period. Why does this require a syllabus?
We need to build camps to house these people. I was in the army in the 60's. The barraks we had were simple and cheap to build. The residents could learn skills, prepare all the food, clean and maintain the buildings and grounds. No booze or drugs. Army life was pretty damn good and it would do these bums a world of good to be forced to work, take care of themselves, get clean and sober, and then return to society with basic skills and get a job like the rest of us.
I cant believe she thought this was the place to come to do this...
What nightmare
Portland is an awesome place to be homeless is because of the drugs are legalized.
With those pods will keep welcoming many people from other states.
They need a work program for the homeless. They need to work 4 hours a day cleaning up graffiti, taking the trash to dumpsters and sweeping streets. Then they can keep their tent for one night on public property. They'll find a different city real quick.
How will Portland enforce the ban when the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a ruling preventing municipalities from removing homeless people from public property if there isn't enough shelter for them? There's something fishy about Portland's ban on daytime camping.
Rent is expensive in Portland? Try paying the property tax
And the insane water bill!
I have been going to Portland pre Covid about four times a year, for about ten years and even considered moving there from Los Angeles or at least getting a second home there. Now I’ve only gone twice in three years and will definitely not buy anything there. Sad state of affairs!
When the city needs to help the homeless they need to establish low budget shelters on the outskirts of the city. Those communities need: police patrols, showers, toilets, laundry and a pantry. The pantry can prepare community meals and store reserve supplies. That pantry can also manage personal sundries.
All this can be done through the city and with the help of donations.
But, there will be no end to the homelessness until there is a program that gets them back into the job market. The people that do get jobs will need help managing their funds. People with drug addictions are a different category.
It's rare for a person to quit addiction and rise up from it. It's a blessing when they do it to both the community and themselves. It's one of the saddest things in life when a person submits to the addictions and gives up on life.
I live in a city where I see all of these things everyday. Dollar stores have trouble staying open because nobody wants to work at them. Those stores are robbed almost everyday. Then the customers blame that all on the employees.
I feel that a declining economy along with drug addiction will be our fall if we can't stop it. It's as if spies have planned this to ruin countries so that they can take them...😢 : and the masses submit to that devious and dark way.
Despite increasing amounts of government money spent on homelessness (CA alone spent >$17 billion from 2018 - 2022), it will surprise nobody who has been to LA, San Francisco, New York, etc. that the situation is only getting worse. In fact, 2022 set a new record for the increase in the number of homelessness in the US (+11%). Since the government started tracking in 2007, the next highest yearly increase was "only" 2.7%.
The supposed $$ spent on the homeless is just another way for politicians and their ilk to line their pockets. Newsom proved the s when the SanFran streets were cleaned up for XI Jinping, they can take care of and enforce rules but choose not to. We're watching a planned destruction of our country.
Damn.......Blair deserves an award for all the stories she does on homeless camps.
Teach them? Were they also gonna give out foil & $traw$? New tarp$$ & tent$$. I still can't believe we were not able to #RecallTedWheeler 2 years ago - people wouldn't sign saying "recalls are expensive" how many millions are wasted daily in this city and how much worse is Poorland 2 years later #KeepPortlandApathetic
Seeing this is way ive lost faith in humanity everyone wants this homeless problem to just vanish without doing anything people ether want them all in jail forever or sent out into desert lands to die far from city and being eyesores to all the people with money peoples favorite problem one that fixes itself for no money
Wouldn't it be better to spend tax dollars on re-educating this folks, training them with a skill, and giving them jobs where they're actively doing something and contributing to society? I do feel for homeless people, but when people look at Portland as a great place for homeless and nobody questions that ... we have a problem that will never have a solution. Not all homeless people are drug addicts, sure many are, but not all ... Portland need to look at how Finland deals with homeless.
It sounds like the city is just dragging their feet.
Rules and regulations only apply to people with a checking account. Non revenue arrests cost the city/county $50,000 per individual to feed, shelter, public defender, court costs, health care while in custody, etc. these criminals don’t have a checking account so we can’t earn money from the arrest. Easier to issue tickets and fines for window tint, no front license plate, expired registration, rolling stops. And property owners and businesses owners for any slight meaningless infraction.
8 to 8 is such nonsense and the simple fact that they came up with something so pathetic gives me a little hope that they will ever find an actual solution. People need homes to live in not hours to camp by. I don't understand why they can't use the empty Colosseum or perhaps there is a jail that is empty. I know that doesn't sound nice but let's be realistic.
Yeah, like an awesome place to be homeless!
I appreciate portland helping the homeless problem, but I don't want us to be "an awesome place to be homeless."
The "Education period" should have been written into the legislation/law.
It's like telling these people ' Don't do Drugs'. Yeah, right.
Why don't you open up a few buildings downtown that no one occupies..??
Yeah - they can move to... where they came from.
October 2023: They have done nothing yet to curb camping. It is the same as ever.
The da is part of the problem with rising crime stats and his cherry picking of what statutes to enforce. He needs to go. The enablers on city council and city administration need to go. They created this mess by not getting ahead of it early on. The county and city leadership. Need to coordinate a homeless housing mitigation plan instead of competing they need to work cooperatively to solve the issue. They have millons of dollar s in tax funding that's not being used. I can see why governor kotek is frustrated with lack of leadership on the city and county level . And why she's putting a task force together to address public drug use etc..the local leadership is inept and inefficient.
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its hard not to laugh at Portland right now..
Portland is hugging people to death. Personal responsibility is paramount for a successful society.
Who’s this ban supposed to help? They need to come up with fair housing. Bring the rents back down to normal.
This can be solved with low income housing. The money the city is spending right now to clean up the city could instead be spent to fix up some old motels or abandoned buildings. Take a nominal feel from all low income recipients, hire a caregiver, pay for administration and upkeep, give these people some dignity. Cause what the city is doing now is not working. All the nasty judgemental comments don't help either. It's just spreading hatred.
I grew up in Oregon and Portland and seeing it now is disgraceful there needs to be laws put in place forcing mentally ill drug users that are a danger to themselves and others into a facility for treatment and than shipping those back who came from other states for a free homeless vacation here in Oregon. I'm surprised many businesses lasted as long as they did and not leave many years ago vs fighting it out with deranged junkies. You can't have a major city in US feeling less safe than many 3rd world countries when we have resources to actually clean it up and make it a safe place again.
Wheeler is SO out of touch.
Big story: Homeless people are still homeless. Fucking gold medal reporting right here. Smh. This ordinance is just a disgusting way to make their lives even harder and then jail them for being homeless.
Buy some land/acreage on the edge of the city, and have that available for tents; then strongly enforce the current ordinance. That would clear out the downtown area.
The issue is no one will go there to live, they could do that right now if they wanted to but don’t because like everyone else, they city and populated areas is where, even the homeless, make a living.
You're an idiott
Their tents is the key. It is how they define their measure of freedom (no check-in or check-out). If they pitched their tents in land within walking distance of the downtown, it just might work. Create other incentives (a tent for haircuts and other basic needs, for instance). @@asianpower3000
Actually multco has land and acreage that could be utilized for that purpose, triaging this population and restabilization so they can transition to permanent housing. They are choosing not to use resources available and seem to be fostering antagonistic dynamic with city leadership. That's part of the problem . They can't seem to work cooperatively to problem solve and why the state governor isn't satisfied with lack of positive outcomes.
"Multco" sounds like a great idea, one that you might present to the City Counsel. @@cdynes385
Portland, how many empty lots could you clear of trash and weeds and make them into smaller sanctioned sites? Probably a lot. How many abandoned houses does the city have claim to, that they could fix up to be habitable, and use them for overnight shelters? I imagine at least a few.
Greed and stupidity created this, and cheapness and miserliness won't cure it. Was up there truckin' on the 84 recently, and saw two groups around campfires under bridges in the dead of night. Humanity is flawed, and devolving.
The temperatures up in this region in the winter are death. No human craves that.
I think we need forced rehabilitation camps. Outside of the city limits.
Pushing the can down the road it's going to be winter by the time they enforce no camping it'll be cold and where people going to go now even when they're in a shelter they kick him out at 5 in the morning better be out all day until 7 or 8 at night this is just the never going to be solved
This whole concept makes no sense.
So you arrest someone just to release them the next day… give them a fine they can't pay… have them wander around all day just so they can put down their tent and belongings at night? I just don't understand what the point of any of this is?
If you don't want them on the street, create more places for them to go.... it's not complex.
It seems our mayor has been quite the flunky for his entire term. It’s been do nothing or come up with some severe penalties that have no backup plans and little to no enforcement. Any progress we’ve made has the new governor.
His second term! I agree, new governor is actually doing something. 😊🎉 very hopeful now that she’s here.
Imagine your Phuqin city kick you while you’re down
It's disappointing to see that our local news stations rarely highlight the stories of hardworking homeless individuals who are fighting against skyrocketing housing prices and doing their best to stay sober and crime-free. By solely focusing on sensationalized narratives about addiction and criminality within the homeless community, these media outlets perpetuate harmful stereotypes and fail to recognize the unique challenges faced by each person experiencing homelessness. Let's amplify diverse voices and shed light on the systemic issues contributing to the housing crisis instead of resorting to simplistic or misleading portrayals.
Wheeler is a fake who does nothing to help the city whatsoever but whoever is paying him off is really happy.
Someone with a tent is not homeless.....people pay rent for buildings that are not much better
Here are my thoughts. If the federal government can house and support 10 million illegal immigrants that are not citizen of this country that have never paid a diame into to our taxes, they can take care of every homeless person in America.
The 2nd woman saying, “Portland was an awesome place to be homeless” enraged me
Or... Criminalize drugs again, criminalize theft again, provide sobriety services instead of the enablement of drug use, try that experiment. The "homeless", "unhoused" or whatever else you want to call the camping drug users, will go elsewhere, or will have to get clean.
Who cares where they go? Not our problem. There's plenty of room in the Mojave desert.
TEACH homeless people about the ban??? Where the hell are they supposed to go??? Give them someplace to go, and THEY WILL GO THERE!
your house sounds inviting ?
Whats so hard to understand about “NO CAMPING FROM 8AM - 8PM?” How much education is needed??
If you think being homeless is awesome- no matter where you are at- then that is probably why you are homeless. If you thought a job was awesome, then you would probably be there too. But no, gainful employment working for The Man is not awesome. Nor free.
Poor kitten. That woman forcing that small baby kitten to sleep in her filthy tent is anger inducing. I cannot stand how selfish people are.
Didn't the city give them the tents for the camping?
"When you're homeless in this city, you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want." - my stepfather.
Where can they go❓
In Ukraine we have no sympathy for long term homeless, they have family and can get job but don’t. Ukrainian community in Portland will help the community by reporting criminal homelessness. We are making the world better both in Ukraine and here in US.
Unfortunately reporting the criminals is useless here now. But i like your support and thoughts - thank you. 🇺🇦
It's hard for people to get a job when they haven't had a shower or washed their clothes in months.
@@dougwhiley4028 Yeah, and the needle hanging out of their necks certainly doesn’t help.
@@handyman2571 maybe you find it hard to put yourself in someone else's shoes. These homeless people are in a state of despair. That's why they take drugs.
This is the result of international economic collapse.
@@dougwhiley4028 are you trying to say homeless people never took drugs before being homeless? Or that when the international economy is strong people don’t become homeless? Both are ridiculous.
We travel around the Western US in our small camper van on occasion like thousands of others. The "RV Unfriendly" status of Portland steers us around Portland.
We're not missing anything.😂
We used to visit there...but it is not the same place.😢
Is costing so much to clean up. We'll have to create a place for them to get them off the streets. Using space better they should think about a double decker would cost less then using more property. It's disgusting because they defecate right where you walk and needles everywhere.
We MUST change the narrative. People shouldn’t come here to be homeless. And most of these people just come here to do drugs. Can we please bus these psychos back to where they have families and support groups?