The fact that Mr. Yeager regrets being too harsh on his son; leading to his death (is what he thought). Although he is speaking to his dead son's son. Woah. That gives me chills.
sorry to interrupt ... i made a video on aot where they Mappa didnt incude the Reiner's plan of destroying the wall! You might like this...Thanks.. ruclips.net/video/v8N5gGQHRIE/видео.html
@@thegamingandroid491 yea not really. He knows that Mr Yeager was only once a child brainwashed by the adults ideals then later fed those same ideals into his kids. You'll see how he realizes how they're all victims to the ideals and the fucked up thinking of adults
@qυιηтεssεηтιαl qυεεη yeah cause even though he prolly hates him like grisha did, he understands that he couldn't do anything about what happened with faye and if he did they would of all just been turned into titans and sent to paradis
MANGA SPOILER WARNING also keep in mind that eren has already saw all of this unfold during memories, his initial reaction was when he kissed historia’s hand
Eren’s resemblance is pretty strong to Grisha even though his grandfather didn’t know he was talking to his grandson I’m surprised he didn’t catch the resemblance.
Dr. Yaeger is also insane, albeit he's not committed. He has absolutely no reason to believe he not only has a second grandson, but that he's in Liberio. He'd sooner think his mind was playing tricks on him with the similarities Eren has with Grisha. Or that fate is fucking with him by bringing him a perfect stranger who looks like the son he lost.
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Agree. It's a stupid culture. Especially in the Philippines. Once your relatives knows you are in the medical field, seaman, or becoming a lawyer. They all praise you, drooling over your wealth. But if you are just working in a low department or you are into art stuff, they ignore you. So stupid and damn toxic.
@@drixcaster5169 Fuck culture here in my country,there is basically injustice everywhere,If I were Eren I'd literallyy flatten my whole country,Idk Aot changed my POV in life like,there is no true peace,there is no true freedom,the only truth is death and when everyone dies there comes the truth and peace.Cuz of Eren,now I'm wishing for humanities extinction,even though my love ones,if we all don't die as soon as possible,the same mistakes will happen over and over and over again.
A lot of people don't seem to realise that Eren purposefully triggered his Grandfather's PTSD by bringing up his past and regrets about his children which Eren had obviously seen through Grisha's memories. Grandpa Jaeger was pressing Eren about using Falco to deliver letters and giving him a warning to return home so Eren decides to change the subject to the mans personal trauma to cause his breakdown in order to get him off his back so he won't get in the way of what Eren's trying to do anymore. It's a pretty messed up thing for Eren to do when you think about it but we can assume that Eren doesn't feel to positively towards his Grandfather just like Grisha didn't. That being said I've always felt bad for Grandpa Jaeger, since it's just like Eren Kruger told Grisha, he just desperately didn't want to lose anymore family even if it meant acting submissive to Marley and not getting angry about Faye's death.
It's not necessarily true in my opinion. Eren knew the past but he didn't know about his grandpa's feelings or how they affected his life, i think Eren just wanted to know how bad he felt for what happened to his family. I don't think he feels any resentment towards his grandpa because he simply has no reason to. Eren isn't even angry at Reiner, the person responsible for his mother's death, so why would he be angry at his grandpa? I highly doubt he triggered his ptsd on purpose (for instance, Eren couldn't have known that grandpa had ptsd) so i'll stick with the argument that he only wanted to know the consequences those events had on his mental/emotional state, i'm sure he needed to know how his grandpa felt bad about the past. P.s. i'm a manga reader so don't fear spoiling anything if you reply
@@A123ftw gotta protect anime watchers so... Spoilers He knew he would need to trigger Zeke's grandpa's PTSD (yes I don't think Eren gives a damn about Zeke's family just like how people would do) from his future memories to ensure what he saw comes to pass but I don't think he's happy from doing it. Just like how he seemed completely lost after making his father murder the Reiss family.
@@DJ-tx3uxAt that point his foreseeing ability wasnt as strong. It was like small parts of the future like Sashas death or something that he knows is gonna happen. So I think Adels theory makes more sense since his memories of Grisha were complete while his ability to see the future was really weak until he had complete contact with Zeke where he got the full extent of whats gonna happen. Example is that when Sasha died it proved to Eren that the small parts of the future he saw are correct thats why he asked what her last words were since he needed prove. If he knew the entire future at that point it would have proved itself a lot earlier since he would know almost everything thats gonna happen so he wouldnt ask what Sashas last words were. Another example of this is is that when he and Zeke enter the cordinate together at the beginning he seems to not know how to control ymir and also is suprised by Zeke outplaying him. Afterwards they go into the memories together and he starts to get more and more confidence as they go because he seems to gain more and more memories of the future and sees how his future self already manipulated the past. When he gets the power of the founding titan and I think he can suddenly see everything of the future. So I believe Eren didnt see the full future until ymir gave him the power of the founding titan (even though the founding titan has not much to do with the attack titan, I think might have to do with him becoming like a royal without being a royal because ymir gives him all the power like she would do with a normal royal)
Mild spoiler alert It's theorized that Eren is heavily influenced by the predecessors of the attack titan, he adopts many more mannerisms of Kreuger and his father when he unlocked the memories (of course going DEEPER, somebody might have been influencing those 2, but that's way too deep to say in the comments ;D)
Eren intentionally did this. He was about to be caught using Falco, and knew his Grandfather was crazy after losing his kids. So he mentioned it on purpose.
When i read this part in the manga, it made me feel that Eren knew all along that he was his grandfather, and the moment he said about "the regrets" wasn't Eren the one who said that, but the memory of Grisha....Eren triggered the old man on porpuse
Eren said it....lmfao tf are you talking about Grisha’s memories for? Eren asking his grandfather about his regrets was just him asking but it was enough to make his grandpa immediately think about what happened to his family. Quit trying to force something into a scene that isn’t there.
We saw in an earlier chapter that Eren was able to influence some of Grisha’s actions such as consuming the founding Titan so it’s not implausible that Grisha might have played a part in this but I doubt it’s a major influence on the situation.
@@SHIkun9000 Might be true, but I also think that Eren wanted to know how his grandfather felt about the past, he knows what happened but he didn't know how his grandpa felt about it, perhaps that was his only reason for asking. I doubt Eren at this point feels any hatred or resentment towards anyone, he has matured, he isn't even angry at Reiner anymore why would he be angry at his grandpa? I think he was just curious to see his reaction, nothing else
Eren is giving his grandfather a mental breakdown after talking about about his dead son that died because of what he thinks is his fault the first time they meet and Eren dosent even give an iota of a damm and yet all you can talk about is there eye coulur maching
@@imrunningoutofnames2413 it’s better than some of the fangirls that will comment “he is fine and he knows it😩🥵” on a video of an anime character angrily committing double homicide
This show is amazing, we're cheering for the villains. Gross once said "if you had restored eldia you'd be butchering us marleyans right now" and that's exactly what's going to happen
Well to be fair the villains suffered a lot too 🤔 Sure Eldia tormented Marley. But then Marley came to power and torment Eldia and the rest of the world. None of them are better than either, though Eldians were the first to start it so...
@@hameezi yeah but Marley didnt seek to commit world genocide and try looking at it from the perspective of the rest of the world would you treat the offspring of titan transforming monsters any better than they do?
Thus is the vicious cycle. Personally I find Marley more justified in the long run then Eldia. I can't help but shake that Eldians application of titans for so long and so severe has just been burned into the Psyche of Marley. Hence why they now just use the tactics of old because well... it is a pretty effective biological weapon. I ain't naive to call them the good guys but I think their measures while cruel have been borne out of mindset that rubbed off them during Eldias time as the top dogs.
@@italianodblaugrana3842 (Spoilers down in case you are an anime only) Shingeki No Kyojin tries to constantly tell the people that there’s no heroes or villains in the story, just people that do what they gotta do to survive. Eren seeking for genocide is basically the fault of Marley, who refused to have peace with Paradis Eldians, then, just before Eren attacked, Willy declared war on Paradis island, they basically brought all of this by themselves.
tbh, its really true since King Fritz sealed Eldians since he predicted in the future and warned all of them that if Marleyans intervened or destroyed the walls, Something really bad will happen King Fritz dont wanna continue what they did to Marleyans and other people even though he had more than enough power to destroy but he just sealed Eldians So, Walls are made to protect other people from gruesome hell
That's what i did too. When he said "my name is Jaegar", i was like wait...why have they switched names? Is there some mind fuck stuff happening here? Then i realised it was Dr Jaegar when he started talking about his two kids and i was like SHIT!
SPOILERS for the manga: eren not caring about what his grandfather said makes a lot of sense, it shows how he’s slowly losing compassion to those outside of the walls. not only that, but i think he’s very much being influenced by grisha’s memories of him. grisha absolutely despised his father because, to him, he represented what grisha hated the most; the loss of freedom and guilt. eren’s probably influenced by his father’s dislike of his own father, that plus the fact he already knows what the man did - nothing he said would have surprised him. eren sees him having regrets as the obvious, i think he might’ve showed more of a reaction had he not been regretful. eren sees a disconnect between himself and those who don’t sympathize for eldians, a disconnect which leads to him feeling like the rumbling is the only valid way to save his people.
Not only that, Mr Jaeger is the exact type of person that Eren hates most about not just people from the outside world but people in general. The kind of people that aren't free and glorify their oppressors and smile and thank them when they're treated worse than animals. As Eren said, "They are no better than cattle."
I mean they showed zeke literally calling him grandfather and he introduced himself as Jaeger. But I get it my sister was confused too when he introduced himself as Jaeger.
The most disturbing part about this is how deeply this hits hurts him even all these years later. The mere thought sends him into uncontrollable wails. Super disturbing to think about how long he's been suffering.
People seem so surprised by Eren not really caring about his Grandfather. You're forgetting the fact that Eren not only saw Grisha's memories and knows him, he *lived* them. How Grisha felt about his own father, Eren, without much choice, feels the same. When you plant memories into a person, it isn't just knowledge, it's the whole experience, all the little emotions and thoughts that you inevitably feel as well. He isn't just his Grandfather, he was Eren's "father" as well to a degree.
I don't think anybody ever stated they hate him. To do so would be to see things only from the perspective of Grisha, which is understandable, but runs counter to the show's message to begin with. Also, it's very clear to me he feels immense and deep sorrow over fay's death, he just couldn't show genuine grief for fear it would be mistaken as anti-marleyan sentiments. Eren might have been wrong for wanting to destroy 600 Million people like that, but specifically Marley got what was coming to them. Never forget.
I think Eren asking Falco for help reminded him of his son and grandson (plus both of them look like Grisha and Zeke respactively) and is trying to correct his mistake of turning Blind eye towards his son being a restorationist This scene is too Awesome
Would’ve gave him a heart attack probably either way I doubt he’d betray eren he really regretted all of it and no one would believe his crazy ass anyways
MAJOR Spoiler alert dont read if you haven't read the manga I remember at this one panel when zeke wanted to show memories to eren. The panel shows grisha asking eren to tell him more about whats in the future, making it seem like grisha can't actually control the true power and only eren can. Eren only showed grisha the memories that he needed to show to move forward.
@@evelynneclipse2069 i’ll take u at face value lol, but i wonder why grisha wouldn’t be able to... eren kruger knew of mikasa and armin before grisha even lived on paradis
Eren has the spirit of Grisha, he always had, and Zeke has the spirit of his grandfather... Zeke and his grandfather are the kind of humanity who surrounds themselves to an easier way and live under humiliation... Grisha and Eren are the kind that make a difference in history... I know, Grisha wasn't perfect, but he was still brave enough to do something. I respect his will and I support Eren's choice till today... I don't read the manga, I follow the anime, but I know I won't change my mind
Eren's choice to not only murder millions upon millions of innocents just because he wanted to see what a flattened earth looks like, but to inflict the same untold misery upon untold numbers of people for the sake of an end to hostilities is a bizarre, hypocritical, and deeply, deeply psychopathic moral compass. To support that choice is vile, no matter how many times you try to justify global genocide because your feelings got hurt. Marley got what was coming to them, but not the rest of the world. And Eldia, in a way, got what was coming to them as well. Armin knows what's up. Peace won't be achieved unless we act upon that desire in a truly meaningful manner. There is no end to a cycle of violence bred by hate-filled propaganda and the machine of war, unless you destroy the cycle. Eren's choice was the fatalist choice, born of depravity and a sick desire for a child's vision of freedom, not a genuine concern for the good of humanity. Armin's choice is the only way out that isn't an immoral void of despair.
The sheer brilliance of Season 4 is truly amazing. Seasons 1 & 2 really fill us in what kinda world we are dealing with. Season 3 is also nice cause lots of questions we had are getting answered. Season 4 is straight up magical-realism shit we are dealing with. Things are almost too good to be true.
I like that he came out looking like a doctor, like Greisha's fate had never affected him and at the end you are left wondering if he was a patient all along.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how beautifully done this scene was. I rly enjoyed the build up to his breakdown. Unlike the manga, the impact of his scream leaves a haunting reminder on how cruel the world of aot rly is. Super excited for episode 5
Eren's first act when meeting his grandfather is to trigger a manic episode lmfao. That is probably the point where the viewer should have guessed he was the season's "villain"
At this point, the viewer doesn't yet know Eren's a time-travelling mutated parasite-god. For all we knew, this was eren truly trying to keep his cover, not knowing just how deep the trauma runs for his grandfather. Yes he knew grisha's memories, but from those, we could only infer that his granddad did not grieve faye's death and his son's restorationist activities in a visible manner. There was no way of knowing in general that the simple words "lifelong regrets" would trigger an episode. So no, I quite disagree. Pre-paths-episodes-viewers had much less reasons to think eren would become the type of villain he became.
He first refers to himself as “doctor Yeager” But after his breakdown the nurse and the man call him “mister yeager”. Was he lying to eren about being a doctor?
Also, the fact that the nurse says ”we took our eyes off him” suggests that he's being supervised, plus you wouldnt expect a doctor that's mentally unstable and has frequent outbursts to be running a facility based on helping people with PTSD... I won't what eren was thinking when he saw him, does he feel any sympathy? Any intention of helping? The way he looked at him was completely blank and emotionless. I can't wait to see what happens next 😁
Eren fought, killed, and was ready to die for Mikasa who he didn't have any special connection. His grandpa did nothing even after his own daughter got eaten alive by dogs and berated his son for feeling rage. Eren despises cowards and weaklings that simply stand there and let themselves be opressed.
Grandpa was driven insane by the dumb descisions he made in an unfair world, and Eren is like "I will keep moving forward no matter how dumb of a choice I have to make"
5:22 Eren : Manga readers waiting 1 month to get 1 chapter Eren's grandfather : Anime only who can't wait 2 weeks for an episode that covers up 2 chapter
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GUYS THERES TOO MANY SPOILERS I CANT REMOVE THEM SO CONTINUTE AT YOUR OWN RISK
My comment didnt get a ❤ I'm sad now
Poor anime onlys..
Rea if only manga readers aren't fucking dicks
@@italianodblaugrana3842 YOU GOT IT NOW HEHE
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The fact that Mr. Yeager regrets being too harsh on his son; leading to his death (is what he thought). Although he is speaking to his dead son's son. Woah. That gives me chills.
its a beautilful mindfuck
@qυιηтεssεηтιαl qυεεη Yes
ill edit it now
@@Vexzun I literally saw the edit that was a first for me
@@DanielMartinez-xz8nj huh? who is the nephew?
@@Vexzun nvm I’m dumb af eren is the grandchild
Guy has no idea he had his first and probably last conversation with his second grandson
So sad
@@foxprimal5253 :(
It would have messed him up more if he knew to be honest
sorry to interrupt ...
i made a video on aot where they Mappa didnt incude the Reiner's plan of destroying the wall! You might like this...Thanks..
ruclips.net/video/v8N5gGQHRIE/видео.html
@@idoo8639 heyy, dont be rude :(
Grandad has a mental breakdown.
Eren: 🗿
Eren be like maaaan stfu
Eren: you deserve it for brainwashing your children
If it wasnt for zeke yeager that he lead his own father to his death, eren would be more surprised
@@thegamingandroid491 yea klnda same i dont feel anything his having a mental breakdown
@@thegamingandroid491 yea not really. He knows that Mr Yeager was only once a child brainwashed by the adults ideals then later fed those same ideals into his kids. You'll see how he realizes how they're all victims to the ideals and the fucked up thinking of adults
I’m not surprised how Eren isn’t fazed at all by his screaming and yelling
Well he saw countless of his people being massacre by the Titans
@qυιηтεssεηтιαl qυεεη yeah cause even though he prolly hates him like grisha did, he understands that he couldn't do anything about what happened with faye and if he did they would of all just been turned into titans and sent to paradis
Johnny what the hell are u doing here
MANGA SPOILER WARNING
also keep in mind that eren has already saw all of this unfold during memories, his initial reaction was when he kissed historia’s hand
eren is pretty cold nowadays
That Kruger fellow seems pretty cool, I hope we see him more in the future.
OmG THats ErEn Arew YoU DUmB!?
We will...soon....
@@juanmosquella6173 he was too that's why he WroTe LikE ThAt
@@juanmosquella6173 you thought you did sum there
Cycle villains right here
S1: Let's take Eren to Marley
S2: Let's take Eren to Marley
S3: Let's take Eren to Marley
S4: Fine! I will come myself!
Eren : yeah i will come with all paradis tresure to you all
Cringe
@@akbarmaulana1132 wtf?
@@akbarmaulana1132 no u
@@akbarmaulana1132 One Marleyan spotted
Wow didnt knew the yeager family screamed so much.
Like grandfather like grandson amirite
They all scream even mikasa and carla started screaming and they arent even related to the jagers
Cant forget how Zeke has a special scream
Mikasa
Carla
Grisha
Eren
Zeke are screaming 😂
Even Levi
@Goncalo Fonseca She's carrying a Yeager of course
Its sad knowing that Mr. Yeager doesn't know he is actually talking to his grandson.
ok
eren is the karma of his father sister
kill those brainwash morons
And his son since Grisha is in his subconscious.
@@animeedits4773 just by saying "sounds like you're talking about yourself" I already know that he knows
Knowing anime logic, he probably “know” by instinct
The guy: *Screaming, having a breakdown*
Ereh: 👁️👄👁️
Who's ereh
@@gerrardo5255 Mikasa's pronunciation of Eren
He looks like he doesn't care but he also looks like he feels sorry
@Snap who’s Eren I only see an Ereh here
narancia it's his grandpa look at the subtitles
Eren’s resemblance is pretty strong to Grisha even though his grandfather didn’t know he was talking to his grandson I’m surprised he didn’t catch the resemblance.
Right but eren looks more like his mom while his half brother zeke looks more like grisha
@@trvgedy2680 That’s even more true .
Because it would be impossible for his grandfather to assume that his son made it to paradis without becoming a pure titan.
@@trvgedy2680 Zeke looks like Dina
Dr. Yaeger is also insane, albeit he's not committed. He has absolutely no reason to believe he not only has a second grandson, but that he's in Liberio. He'd sooner think his mind was playing tricks on him with the similarities Eren has with Grisha. Or that fate is fucking with him by bringing him a perfect stranger who looks like the son he lost.
Ah grandpa and grandson talking about past
Bonding like Yeagers should
@@narutouchiha5588 regretting everything they do?
i can imagine how fun christmas was for the yeager family
@@GoldenRice01 I heard that in yoda's voice
Why didn’t Eren care about him ? Even when his granddad was screaming he just sat there still
One of the only blood relatives he has left and he’s nuts.
@Johnny Chen - Well Zeke is his half-brother and he does also still have his grandmother. I did say “one” not “only” blood relative. 😉
@@STH151NicoleFan i mean... technically u said both in ur line lol
@Gevanni Bendim - All depends on how and where they’re used. 😉 “One of the only” “The only”.
@@STH151NicoleFan mhm k dont worry i understood ur line i was making a joke
@@STH151NicoleFan I love it when people correct the grammar of illiterate people on RUclips comments
Probably this closest jaeger family bonding we ever seen
That's depressing.
oh it's gonna get even closer soon
@@qtarokujo3694 Actually no it isn't
@@negan991 yes it is lol read the manga...
@@kobetall8973 not really because he probably escaped the rumbling with the ppl from liberio in that train
Dr Yeager: I'm Dr Yeager.
Eren: Hello grandpa, I'm Kruger.
Dr Yeager: What?
Eren: What?
*what...*
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@@veneciadaniels1018 u just did the most...🙂
@@veneciadaniels1018 i do
@@veneciadaniels1018 i do
"I insisted he became a doctor..."
like every asian parents.
😐
They are not asain actually they are some sort of French the only Asian one is mikasa
Agree. It's a stupid culture. Especially in the Philippines. Once your relatives knows you are in the medical field, seaman, or becoming a lawyer. They all praise you, drooling over your wealth. But if you are just working in a low department or you are into art stuff, they ignore you. So stupid and damn toxic.
@@Babyaquarius It's been confirmed that The Yeager family are German
@@drixcaster5169 Fuck culture here in my country,there is basically injustice everywhere,If I were Eren I'd literallyy flatten my whole country,Idk Aot changed my POV in life like,there is no true peace,there is no true freedom,the only truth is death and when everyone dies there comes the truth and peace.Cuz of Eren,now I'm wishing for humanities extinction,even though my love ones,if we all don't die as soon as possible,the same mistakes will happen over and over and over again.
A lot of people don't seem to realise that Eren purposefully triggered his Grandfather's PTSD by bringing up his past and regrets about his children which Eren had obviously seen through Grisha's memories. Grandpa Jaeger was pressing Eren about using Falco to deliver letters and giving him a warning to return home so Eren decides to change the subject to the mans personal trauma to cause his breakdown in order to get him off his back so he won't get in the way of what Eren's trying to do anymore.
It's a pretty messed up thing for Eren to do when you think about it but we can assume that Eren doesn't feel to positively towards his Grandfather just like Grisha didn't. That being said I've always felt bad for Grandpa Jaeger, since it's just like Eren Kruger told Grisha, he just desperately didn't want to lose anymore family even if it meant acting submissive to Marley and not getting angry about Faye's death.
It's not necessarily true in my opinion.
Eren knew the past but he didn't know about his grandpa's feelings or how they affected his life, i think Eren just wanted to know how bad he felt for what happened to his family. I don't think he feels any resentment towards his grandpa because he simply has no reason to. Eren isn't even angry at Reiner, the person responsible for his mother's death, so why would he be angry at his grandpa? I highly doubt he triggered his ptsd on purpose (for instance, Eren couldn't have known that grandpa had ptsd) so i'll stick with the argument that he only wanted to know the consequences those events had on his mental/emotional state, i'm sure he needed to know how his grandpa felt bad about the past. P.s. i'm a manga reader so don't fear spoiling anything if you reply
@@A123ftw gotta protect anime watchers so...
Spoilers
He knew he would need to trigger Zeke's grandpa's PTSD (yes I don't think Eren gives a damn about Zeke's family just like how people would do) from his future memories to ensure what he saw comes to pass but I don't think he's happy from doing it. Just like how he seemed completely lost after making his father murder the Reiss family.
I actually realized that! But...I don't have anyone to talk my theories or thoughts on the AOT Anime to..
@@DJ-tx3uxAt that point his foreseeing ability wasnt as strong. It was like small parts of the future like Sashas death or something that he knows is gonna happen. So I think Adels theory makes more sense since his memories of Grisha were complete while his ability to see the future was really weak until he had complete contact with Zeke where he got the full extent of whats gonna happen. Example is that when Sasha died it proved to Eren that the small parts of the future he saw are correct thats why he asked what her last words were since he needed prove. If he knew the entire future at that point it would have proved itself a lot earlier since he would know almost everything thats gonna happen so he wouldnt ask what Sashas last words were. Another example of this is is that when he and Zeke enter the cordinate together at the beginning he seems to not know how to control ymir and also is suprised by Zeke outplaying him. Afterwards they go into the memories together and he starts to get more and more confidence as they go because he seems to gain more and more memories of the future and sees how his future self already manipulated the past. When he gets the power of the founding titan and I think he can suddenly see everything of the future. So I believe Eren didnt see the full future until ymir gave him the power of the founding titan (even though the founding titan has not much to do with the attack titan, I think might have to do with him becoming like a royal without being a royal because ymir gives him all the power like she would do with a normal royal)
@@DJ-tx3ux *Past memories as revealed in the final season part 2 finale.
I thought eren would've had the face of being surprised when he heard his grandfather's name
Though I'm the more surprised what name he took
There is a reason for that
Well i think eren already recognised him for a long time because of his dad’s memories
You"ll gonna be more surprised
@@Themarclor Bro... there is another explanation to why he wasn´t surprised though
Mild spoiler alert
It's theorized that Eren is heavily influenced by the predecessors of the attack titan, he adopts many more mannerisms of Kreuger and his father when he unlocked the memories (of course going DEEPER, somebody might have been influencing those 2, but that's way too deep to say in the comments ;D)
Grandpa yeager: having a ptsd
Eren: damm..the weather look nice today😐
Ye its sad he aint recognizing thats his grandson🧍
That green eyes
I like ur profile very much
@@davenavadancalan9101he probably later realised that eren is his grandson because eren says "to all subjects of ymir, this is *eren yeager* "
Ya now that you said it they should showed his reaction upon learning that he's is second grandson
Dr. Jaegar: *Literally having a mental fallout about his past mistakes*
Eren: .-.
Eren intentionally did this. He was about to be caught using Falco, and knew his Grandfather was crazy after losing his kids. So he mentioned it on purpose.
@@LookingTheBest where was that stated, maybe i missed it
@@pedrobento03bro cannot derive implications 😭😭
5:39 How generous of Zeke to give his brother a toy to play with
Dr jaeger: stop asking that kid favors or else
Eren: havent you been a terrible father
When i read this part in the manga, it made me feel that Eren knew all along that he was his grandfather, and the moment he said about "the regrets" wasn't Eren the one who said that, but the memory of Grisha....Eren triggered the old man on porpuse
Eren said it....lmfao tf are you talking about Grisha’s memories for?
Eren asking his grandfather about his regrets was just him asking but it was enough to make his grandpa immediately think about what happened to his family.
Quit trying to force something into a scene that isn’t there.
Ofcourse Eren knew, he already know his father memories at this point
We saw in an earlier chapter that Eren was able to influence some of Grisha’s actions such as consuming the founding Titan so it’s not implausible that Grisha might have played a part in this but I doubt it’s a major influence on the situation.
@@lastofthestarmakers3660 chill you lil bitch
@@SHIkun9000
Might be true, but I also think that Eren wanted to know how his grandfather felt about the past, he knows what happened but he didn't know how his grandpa felt about it, perhaps that was his only reason for asking. I doubt Eren at this point feels any hatred or resentment towards anyone, he has matured, he isn't even angry at Reiner anymore why would he be angry at his grandpa? I think he was just curious to see his reaction, nothing else
Aww they have the same eye color
Eren is giving his grandfather a mental breakdown after talking about about his dead son that died because of what he thinks is his fault the first time they meet and Eren dosent even give an iota of a damm and yet all you can talk about is there eye coulur maching
@@imrunningoutofnames2413 no not really. His grandfather was projecting and Eren threw it right back at him.
Lmao
@@imrunningoutofnames2413 it’s better than some of the fangirls that will comment “he is fine and he knows it😩🥵” on a video of an anime character angrily committing double homicide
@@ReinerIsDaddy projecting?
This show is amazing, we're cheering for the villains. Gross once said "if you had restored eldia you'd be butchering us marleyans right now" and that's exactly what's going to happen
Well to be fair the villains suffered a lot too 🤔
Sure Eldia tormented Marley.
But then Marley came to power and torment Eldia and the rest of the world.
None of them are better than either, though Eldians were the first to start it so...
@@hameezi yeah but Marley didnt seek to commit world genocide and try looking at it from the perspective of the rest of the world would you treat the offspring of titan transforming monsters any better than they do?
@@italianodblaugrana3842 There are no heroes or villains in this story
Thus is the vicious cycle. Personally I find Marley more justified in the long run then Eldia. I can't help but shake that Eldians application of titans for so long and so severe has just been burned into the Psyche of Marley. Hence why they now just use the tactics of old because well... it is a pretty effective biological weapon. I ain't naive to call them the good guys but I think their measures while cruel have been borne out of mindset that rubbed off them during Eldias time as the top dogs.
@@italianodblaugrana3842 (Spoilers down in case you are an anime only)
Shingeki No Kyojin tries to constantly tell the people that there’s no heroes or villains in the story, just people that do what they gotta do to survive. Eren seeking for genocide is basically the fault of Marley, who refused to have peace with Paradis Eldians, then, just before Eren attacked, Willy declared war on Paradis island, they basically brought all of this by themselves.
"And if your mind is healthy go home to your family."
*Little did Mr.Yeager know Eren was part of his family*
I feel like this is the- “Grandson talks about vietnam war and grandpa has flashbacks about it” type of scenario
Việt Nam
When you realize the walls were made to protect the world from Eren, not Levi.
I second this😅
tbh, its really true since King Fritz sealed Eldians since he predicted in the future and warned all of them that if Marleyans intervened or destroyed the walls, Something really bad will happen
King Fritz dont wanna continue what they did to Marleyans and other people even though he had more than enough power to destroy but he just sealed Eldians
So, Walls are made to protect other people from gruesome hell
This time literally
Fangirls:nO iTs not tRUE. LEvI is The best cHaraCter
@@urcurlydawg932 levi may be the best characters but he ain't the strongest 😂
I love how he was able to control his emotions after knowing it was his grandpa....he has matured a lot .
Damn I’m slow I just realized that was his grandpops lol. I was like “hey that back story sounded familiar when he was talking about losing his kids”
You need to see a phylogenetic bud
Same
It said his name is yeager bro.
@@zurielbabida8162 When I heard it I was like "Oh cool he has Yeager as his FIRST name" I was such an idiot lmfao
That's what i did too. When he said "my name is Jaegar", i was like wait...why have they switched names? Is there some mind fuck stuff happening here? Then i realised it was Dr Jaegar when he started talking about his two kids and i was like SHIT!
I like how it made it seem like he was a doctor working in the facility but it turns out he was actually a patient himself!
SPOILERS for the manga:
eren not caring about what his grandfather said makes a lot of sense, it shows how he’s slowly losing compassion to those outside of the walls. not only that, but i think he’s very much being influenced by grisha’s memories of him. grisha absolutely despised his father because, to him, he represented what grisha hated the most; the loss of freedom and guilt. eren’s probably influenced by his father’s dislike of his own father, that plus the fact he already knows what the man did - nothing he said would have surprised him. eren sees him having regrets as the obvious, i think he might’ve showed more of a reaction had he not been regretful. eren sees a disconnect between himself and those who don’t sympathize for eldians, a disconnect which leads to him feeling like the rumbling is the only valid way to save his people.
Not only that, Mr Jaeger is the exact type of person that Eren hates most about not just people from the outside world but people in general. The kind of people that aren't free and glorify their oppressors and smile and thank them when they're treated worse than animals. As Eren said, "They are no better than cattle."
"Seems like your talking about yourself" DAMN that burns
Uno reverse card is Eren's ability. Haha
Asoon as he said let his son and daughter I knew it was him
But like, he introduced himself as Jaeger?
@@flores5420 there may be many Yeagers for all we know. It might be a common name there
I mean they showed zeke literally calling him grandfather and he introduced himself as Jaeger. But I get it my sister was confused too when he introduced himself as Jaeger.
@@uzunami810 true but the author won't put some random unimportant character named yeager talking to eren for no reason.
Grandpa Yeager: "And if your mind is healthy, go home to *your family* "
Manga readers: ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
LOL
Wny go home to your family when they're already there :)
@@evelynneclipse2069 "that letter went to *my friends* , not my *family* " ;)
Eren: I'm not going. Let them come.
@@evelynneclipse2069 thanks for the spoiler
5:22 Eren rolls his eyes as his grandfather’s PTSD shows
pfft
It become very funny now 😂😂😂
Lmfao I think he was just turning to look at the doctors coming to collect him nevertheless he still didn't give AF
Lmao
The most disturbing part about this is how deeply this hits hurts him even all these years later. The mere thought sends him into uncontrollable wails. Super disturbing to think about how long he's been suffering.
It's amazing that no one knows the surname Kruger.
Sneak:100
Well grisha was the only one who knew who the owl really was anyway.
Wait what is an owl again ?
@@cocokatarina it was someone who was basically an informant for the eldian restorationists
@@cocokatarina A bord which prefars to be active during night, Stays hiddin in dark.
Translacion : Spai
@@cocokatarina He's also the person who gave Grisha the Attack Titan
if only he knew Grisha wasn’t a mindless titan
“Sounds like you’re talking about yourself.”
*Red flag.*
Eren is not just Eren, not that he inherited his dad's memory, he is basically his grandson and son.
omg :0
Remember guys Eren has inherited his fathers memories so most likely he DID recognize his grandpa.
That and we hear his surname a few times, eren ain't even a dense protagonist.
he absolutely did.
In the manga it’s more obvious he knows but yeah it’s implied he does when he pointed out his grandfathers projections.
besides he literally said his name
the worst emotion to feel is regret, it literally decays you from the inside
How ironic that his grandfather said Eren should be spending time with his family, not even knowing that he IS his family.
Scenes like this are why I love this show. Great writing and plot. Everything is connected
When your grandson ate your own son:
Gosh dont make it weird, armin
- jean
@@thegamingandroid491 very forcefull titan sex LOL
@@thegamingandroid491 gigguk memes lol
@@thegamingandroid491 just another day for the survey corps hehhehehehhe
People seem so surprised by Eren not really caring about his Grandfather.
You're forgetting the fact that Eren not only saw Grisha's memories and knows him, he *lived* them.
How Grisha felt about his own father, Eren, without much choice, feels the same.
When you plant memories into a person, it isn't just knowledge, it's the whole experience, all the little emotions and thoughts that you inevitably feel as well.
He isn't just his Grandfather, he was Eren's "father" as well to a degree.
I had goosebumps while watching this
Are we going to ignore the the fact that Eren literally rolled his eyes at 5:24 ???😂😂
Didn't even notice that.. Nice catch!
He didn't roll his eyes he just looked at the doctors coming by
@@Ozxy7 no look closely he looked away from all of them them looked back at the doctor's after a cut scene
@@Ozxy7 it's even more clear when the scene is shortened. He was rolling his eyes
These replies are so braindead 😂 "no He WAs rollInG hiS eyEs" it's just the animation of his face looking at the doctor's lol
It’s weird seeing Eren so emotionless. He’s usually so shocked at seeing shit like this.
Eren: Hi grandpa, i'm son of grisha!
Dr Yeager: Cool, where's your father?
Eren: Eaten by me!
Dr Yeager: SCREAM
Dr yeager: *pulls out gun and shoots Kruger*
The only fact he chose "Kruger" as a fake name just makes me ✨✨
Eren: *why are you telling me this? Just kidding, i already know about that.*
the saddest thing is that mr. Yeager is probably dead
i really like badass eren
Don't know if you are a manga reader, but this is 1% of Eren's badassery
@@fulanodetal7570 another 5% will come next ep.
@@stormdragon2529 Spoilers
Can't wait to see Eren vs Reiner, Galliard and Pieck
@@fulanodetal7570 yea me 2
Lol
Marvel fans: tony meeting his dad in endgame was ironic
Anime fans: pathetic
if eren had looked more like his father than his mother his grandpa wouldve realized
Honestly this old man doesn’t deserve to be hated. He simply prioritized his own family’s safety over Eldia’s restoration.
I don't think anybody ever stated they hate him. To do so would be to see things only from the perspective of Grisha, which is understandable, but runs counter to the show's message to begin with.
Also, it's very clear to me he feels immense and deep sorrow over fay's death, he just couldn't show genuine grief for fear it would be mistaken as anti-marleyan sentiments.
Eren might have been wrong for wanting to destroy 600 Million people like that, but specifically Marley got what was coming to them. Never forget.
I think Eren asking Falco for help reminded him of his son and grandson (plus both of them look like Grisha and Zeke respactively) and is trying to correct his mistake of turning Blind eye towards his son being a restorationist
This scene is too Awesome
He knew grisha was a restorationist ?
Imagine if he revealed himself
There will be the second war XD
Imagine...
Lmao
"I'm your son's son, eren yeager"
"Wait didn't you say you were kruger?"
"It was a lie",
*screaming intensifies*
Would’ve gave him a heart attack probably either way I doubt he’d betray eren he really regretted all of it and no one would believe his crazy ass anyways
Not yet my friend, not yet..
because grisha was the attack titan and had the ability to see the future with eren, he probably knew of this conversation
Maybe because remember eren ate him and his eyes are his eyes colour too. So maybe he is watching his mental breakdown and cant do anything about it.
That’s a spoil btw
MAJOR Spoiler alert dont read if you haven't read the manga
I remember at this one panel when zeke wanted to show memories to eren. The panel shows grisha asking eren to tell him more about whats in the future, making it seem like grisha can't actually control the true power and only eren can. Eren only showed grisha the memories that he needed to show to move forward.
@@Shuraig7 well kinda... i mean we already know that the attack titan transcends time... i haven’t revealed anything from the manga tho
@@evelynneclipse2069 i’ll take u at face value lol, but i wonder why grisha wouldn’t be able to... eren kruger knew of mikasa and armin before grisha even lived on paradis
The theme that’s starts playing when the close ups of his Yeager’s eye. I have a feeling we’re gonna hear a much more epic version of it very soon...
Thats the theme that plays whenever they show flashbacks I think, like when eren kissed historias hand and saw grisha confronting the fritz
@@stratogatesteins3828 i know the theme you’re talking about but this is different
watch both scenes and you’ll see, similar style though (may be foreshadowing :)). )
@@stratogatesteins3828 Nah, the ost which plays in this scene is new.
@@harrythomas2657 oh my bad
Mr Yeager: Hello, I'm doctor here.
Eren: Hello doctor, I'm patient
5 minutes later
Mr Yeager: Now, I'm patient too..
Why be one or the other when you can be both
Everybody a gangsta till *Youseebiggirl* starts playing in the basement
Eren has the spirit of Grisha, he always had, and Zeke has the spirit of his grandfather...
Zeke and his grandfather are the kind of humanity who surrounds themselves to an easier way and live under humiliation...
Grisha and Eren are the kind that make a difference in history...
I know, Grisha wasn't perfect, but he was still brave enough to do something. I respect his will and I support Eren's choice till today...
I don't read the manga, I follow the anime, but I know I won't change my mind
I love grisha! And i know eren does too but he has to move on
Eren's choice to not only murder millions upon millions of innocents just because he wanted to see what a flattened earth looks like, but to inflict the same untold misery upon untold numbers of people for the sake of an end to hostilities is a bizarre, hypocritical, and deeply, deeply psychopathic moral compass. To support that choice is vile, no matter how many times you try to justify global genocide because your feelings got hurt.
Marley got what was coming to them, but not the rest of the world. And Eldia, in a way, got what was coming to them as well. Armin knows what's up. Peace won't be achieved unless we act upon that desire in a truly meaningful manner. There is no end to a cycle of violence bred by hate-filled propaganda and the machine of war, unless you destroy the cycle. Eren's choice was the fatalist choice, born of depravity and a sick desire for a child's vision of freedom, not a genuine concern for the good of humanity. Armin's choice is the only way out that isn't an immoral void of despair.
The sheer brilliance of Season 4 is truly amazing. Seasons 1 & 2 really fill us in what kinda world we are dealing with. Season 3 is also nice cause lots of questions we had are getting answered. Season 4 is straight up magical-realism shit we are dealing with. Things are almost too good to be true.
Eren has changed so much.
Dr Yeager: *"SCREAMING"*
Eren's mind: mmmh i wonder what Mikasa is going to cook for dinner.
What a wholesome family reunion..just what we expect from AOT
“I wonder who’s truly in the wrong, was it me or this world?…perhaps it was both…”
I felt this quote…
Attack on Titan is actually just a family drama with Titans somewhere in the background.
I like that he came out looking like a doctor, like Greisha's fate had never affected him and at the end you are left wondering if he was a patient all along.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how beautifully done this scene was. I rly enjoyed the build up to his breakdown. Unlike the manga, the impact of his scream leaves a haunting reminder on how cruel the world of aot rly is. Super excited for episode 5
I really like the cut from the conversation to Grisha memories, props to you
Grisha: Brinwashed by dad
Zeke: Brainwashed by dad
Eren: *UNO Reverse Card*
Eren's first act when meeting his grandfather is to trigger a manic episode lmfao. That is probably the point where the viewer should have guessed he was the season's "villain"
At this point, the viewer doesn't yet know Eren's a time-travelling mutated parasite-god. For all we knew, this was eren truly trying to keep his cover, not knowing just how deep the trauma runs for his grandfather. Yes he knew grisha's memories, but from those, we could only infer that his granddad did not grieve faye's death and his son's restorationist activities in a visible manner. There was no way of knowing in general that the simple words "lifelong regrets" would trigger an episode.
So no, I quite disagree. Pre-paths-episodes-viewers had much less reasons to think eren would become the type of villain he became.
Eren doesn't even care, damn he's just not the same anymore
Grandpa yeagar :- if your mind is healthy then go home
Eren :- Okay
AOT End.
Little did eren know he doesn't have a lil nass home
I was gonna say his breath probably funky until I saw the comments about that's eren grandpa I honestly had no idea but...glad they met
I love how connected everything is.
He first refers to himself as “doctor Yeager”
But after his breakdown the nurse and the man call him “mister yeager”. Was he lying to eren about being a doctor?
Probably a patient there
@@samthong3305 that's scary, living in a constant delusion of being a doctor and helping people, all while reliving his past mistakes.
Yes
He was his also ill
Also, the fact that the nurse says ”we took our eyes off him” suggests that he's being supervised, plus you wouldnt expect a doctor that's mentally unstable and has frequent outbursts to be running a facility based on helping people with PTSD... I won't what eren was thinking when he saw him, does he feel any sympathy? Any intention of helping? The way he looked at him was completely blank and emotionless. I can't wait to see what happens next 😁
This almost felt like a scene from Monster.
Seriously man gave me the same vibes. Eren's grandfather literally looks like a monster character.
5:23 Did he just eye roll at his own grandpa?? The audacity! 😂
Eren fought, killed, and was ready to die for Mikasa who he didn't have any special connection.
His grandpa did nothing even after his own daughter got eaten alive by dogs and berated his son for feeling rage.
Eren despises cowards and weaklings that simply stand there and let themselves be opressed.
Grandpa was driven insane by the dumb descisions he made in an unfair world, and Eren is like "I will keep moving forward no matter how dumb of a choice I have to make"
Eren will become the best character in anime and manga for now
Eren, the only one who can trigger his brother, father, and grandfather's trauma
5:22
Eren : Manga readers waiting 1 month to get 1 chapter
Eren's grandfather : Anime only who can't wait 2 weeks for an episode that covers up 2 chapter
"Oh, a mental breakdown. Another normal day at the Jaeger family."
CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW EREN ROLLED HIS EYES WHEN HIS GRANDPA SCREAMED I -
HE REALLY BE LIKE "'Kay, what about it?"
"Lifelong regrets? Sounds like you're talking about yourself"
Damn Eren
Eren's grandfather's eye has so much budget
I love how Eren just sits there like... oh well that happened😂😂
His scream creeped me out😅
I feel like he knew it was his Grandpa, and to make sure he wasn't caught he purposely asks his Grandfather about his "Regrets"
Damn, Eren do know how to poke his grandpa's wound🙃
"Mr Jaeger will never knew that that day he was talking to his grandson" it's hurts
5:20 ここの叫ぶシーン、原作で見た時は声にならない叫びをイメージしてたけどこれはこれであり
Average Yeager family encounters be like:
Mr.Yaeger having a breakdown
Eren: 🗿
he really 🗿
despite all he did, i feel bad for him