What is going on with the lume of PD? How much it will cost to get to steeldive levels, at least. So many improvements but the lume is ridiculous, but I'm a lume guy so...
Pagani is easy to deal with. Just avoid all-black or all-white dials, they tend to be boring, as blue and sometimes green dials have mostly interesting brushing or sunbursts. If you can, avoid aged or green lume. Their blue lume is better. Not good, but better. Be aware of the different bracelets. Some are good - like their oyster style, some are meh - like their 5 links, some are just bad as the oyster with the folding clasp w/o divers extension. Got me the PD1784 in blue and I have to admit that I like it. A bit more expensive than I would like it to be.
I would love this interpretation in a bigger case (big wrists!) and without the GMT functionality - a 42mm or 43mm case and NH38 movement as opposed to NH34. My OCD tends to have me lean towards symetery so - a have quite a few no dates. I love the size and super legible PD 1649 (Tag Autavia homage) but the date window spolis it for me. So a PD1649 (Autavia) without the date or a bigger PD1784 (Zulu) without the GMT would tick my boxes!😀 Thanks also sir, for you always informative and engaging content. Always a pleasure to watch!
This watch has a lot going for it. I wonder how much more it would cost to have good lume, always the Achilles heel of Pagani. Personality, I would like the bezel in black.
Luminescence it’s always luminescence with PD , I’m prepared to overlook average bracelets and clasps but not the lume . If it was at one of those Cute livingstore sale prices I might be swayed . AR and 200m help though. Thank you for the review.
This is the third review of recent Pagani watches where it looks like they’ve really stepped up their game… two Pagani‘s have made it into my permanent collection, and I’ve been willing to overlook the lume. I am a lume junky and it’s the one thing to tell me back from having more of these.
What’s this obsession with lume? Unless you are in the military where you probably use something much more robust on active duty, it is just a watch nerd thing. Almost everyone has a mobile phone which tells you the time on a nice big bright screen. I just don’t get it (yes I know the battery can die but if it’s important get an illuminated G Shock) and I don’t care about lume ! I did when I was like 9 years old with my first watch under the bedcovers. Anyway each to their own. Peace ✌️.
I work as a subway train driver so every time I'm underground it's very handy to have some long lasting lume on my watches. I would suggest all these aliexpress brands to have outstanding lume performance or just don't put it on the watch at all. Half baked 3 minute lasting lume is not only useless but it also makes the watch ugly in a dark environment. I rather have a watch with no lume at that point.
While I agree that the dial needs a date window, if PD had put a date on the dial, it would have been black with a white background and the complaint would be the date isn't color matched. So, they probably did the right thing by leaving it off.
Nice watch. Nice video as always. I do like the watch overall. I have a green standard Spirit homage which is probably my #2 or #3 favorite Pagani. I really like the details of the dial but... and I cannot state this any more clearly... I am not going to pay nearly $200 for a Pagani. Terrible lume that would cost maybe $3 more to get on the level of Steeldive. They still just randomly put cases and bracelet end links together and hope for the best. Having said all of that, when I see one pop up on a forum or group or Mercari for $75, I'll grab one. Love that dial and crystal!
@HoroHigh369 It will most likely be well discounted for 11.11 sale. Also, San Martin's version of Spirit Zulu gmt homage is out now too, probably better lume and it has a date 🙂 Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
No date is a massive plus. Why would a gmt need spectacular lume?? The bracelet is the deal breaker for me. I wouldn't want it on leather and natos look 💩 on anything other than a military field watch.
Very beginning right now. Let me guess .. still Bad lume.... Problematic clasp... Also probably ghost date and 120 click divers bezel instead of bi-directional 48 clicks. I sorry wish Pagani design would put effort into sharing off a mm or two and not do those display case backs on nh35s... The no date is my preference most of the time. $150 on sale is still a bit too much for all those flaws. Yet to use a PD bracelet.
NH34 comes with a date function, so it must have a ghost date when positioning the crown? Those end links are just unforgivable, the lume is pathetic and 120 click unidirectional bezel hard pass. Hope to see better homages from other brands in 2024 of the Spirit Z time.
I'm going to have to say it, i hate 40 mm and lower watches. I can't see them until i bring them right up to my face. And then there's this rule about watch sizes. Why? I buy big watches all the time and love that i can easily tell the time. I got a sugsess chronograph recently and while i do love the style i hate the puny size of the watch yet many belivece thats the correct size. In my opinion, its too tiny.
I’ll never buy another GMT from Pagani. The GMT hand has never kept time on both of my previous Pagani purchases. They fooled me twice so shame on me. There won’t be a third fooling.
No good lume, no date at 6 and no bi directional bezel at that price? No thank you. A watch that Pagani would have thought better... a shame, it could have been their best watch... but noo... 😑
I like they’ve dropped the full name and just put a shield
Me too - nice and clean, and I quite like the Pagani logo. Great looking watch - it's in my cart!
I love this watch and am going to buy it, but not till the price drops comfortably under £100.
Which it will!
Great watch. The lume is up to the usual low standards for Pagani Design :) I immediately threw it on a nato strap and it wears really well.
Very nice video on the PD-1784. I have just added this watch to my collection of homage watches of my favourite luxury brands.
What is going on with the lume of PD? How much it will cost to get to steeldive levels, at least. So many improvements but the lume is ridiculous, but I'm a lume guy so...
Pagani is easy to deal with. Just avoid all-black or all-white dials, they tend to be boring, as blue and sometimes green dials have mostly interesting brushing or sunbursts. If you can, avoid aged or green lume. Their blue lume is better. Not good, but better. Be aware of the different bracelets. Some are good - like their oyster style, some are meh - like their 5 links, some are just bad as the oyster with the folding clasp w/o divers extension.
Got me the PD1784 in blue and I have to admit that I like it. A bit more expensive than I would like it to be.
I would love this interpretation in a bigger case (big wrists!) and without the GMT functionality - a 42mm or 43mm case and NH38 movement as opposed to NH34.
My OCD tends to have me lean towards symetery so - a have quite a few no dates. I love the size and super legible PD 1649 (Tag Autavia homage) but the date window spolis it for me. So a PD1649 (Autavia) without the date or a bigger PD1784 (Zulu) without the GMT would tick my boxes!😀
Thanks also sir, for you always informative and engaging content. Always a pleasure to watch!
This watch has a lot going for it. I wonder how much more it would cost to have good lume, always the Achilles heel of Pagani.
Personality, I would like the bezel in black.
Probably under $5 in volume, a silly savings really compared to SM.
Luminescence it’s always luminescence with PD , I’m prepared to overlook average bracelets and clasps but not the lume . If it was at one of those Cute livingstore sale prices I might be swayed . AR and 200m help though. Thank you for the review.
Love your videos man. High quality and amazing work
This is the third review of recent Pagani watches where it looks like they’ve really stepped up their game… two Pagani‘s have made it into my permanent collection, and I’ve been willing to overlook the lume. I am a lume junky and it’s the one thing to tell me back from having more of these.
Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍
Instead of third time zone with the bezel keep it as a divers bezel and 24 hour markers on the dial for the GMT hand? Great review 👍
I think you just described the latest Longines Hydroconquest GMT 🙂 Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
What’s this obsession with lume? Unless you are in the military where you probably use something much more robust on active duty, it is just a watch nerd thing. Almost everyone has a mobile phone which tells you the time on a nice big bright screen. I just don’t get it (yes I know the battery can die but if it’s important get an illuminated G Shock) and I don’t care about lume ! I did when I was like 9 years old with my first watch under the bedcovers. Anyway each to their own. Peace ✌️.
I work as a subway train driver so every time I'm underground it's very handy to have some long lasting lume on my watches. I would suggest all these aliexpress brands to have outstanding lume performance or just don't put it on the watch at all. Half baked 3 minute lasting lume is not only useless but it also makes the watch ugly in a dark environment. I rather have a watch with no lume at that point.
Great video. Good quality fiming and narration.....Just subbed😊
Thanks and welcome! 🙂👍
While I agree that the dial needs a date window, if PD had put a date on the dial, it would have been black with a white background and the complaint would be the date isn't color matched. So, they probably did the right thing by leaving it off.
If they make a version of the 18k gold design I'll buy it immediately :)
Interesting and enticing piece, that bezel sound is soooo gooood😊
Thanks Wes!
I’ve been waiting for your review - seeen a few - yours worth the wait - I feel I need to buy it ffs
so detailed review. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful! 🙂👍
I'll wait for mk 2 with date, dual rotating bezel and fitting end links.
Great video! Any current discount codes/links to purchase this item?
@nickbrownUK This is possibly the best price at the moment (but do shop around): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ez7egM4 hope this helps!
Nice watch. Nice video as always. I do like the watch overall. I have a green standard Spirit homage which is probably my #2 or #3 favorite Pagani. I really like the details of the dial but... and I cannot state this any more clearly... I am not going to pay nearly $200 for a Pagani. Terrible lume that would cost maybe $3 more to get on the level of Steeldive. They still just randomly put cases and bracelet end links together and hope for the best. Having said all of that, when I see one pop up on a forum or group or Mercari for $75, I'll grab one. Love that dial and crystal!
Great review as always
Love this watch, thanks for the informative review!!
@HoroHigh369 It will most likely be well discounted for 11.11 sale. Also, San Martin's version of Spirit Zulu gmt homage is out now too, probably better lume and it has a date 🙂 Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
42mm needed for me and better lume and better bracelet needed, drop the GMT. I see a price drop in the future.
I'm not sure about this one, love the original longines though.
in your opinion is SM SN0140W worth double the price of this one o should i go for the PD?
Easy reader. Yes! Dial fairly uncluttered. Yes-yes! $200? No. $125, maybe. Nice review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
yes at the $150 price point
I really like the look of this watch. I wish it was $100
It's nice, but too candy-like. Perhaps they should have made the insert matte, and less saturation on the brown and orange colors.
got this exact same watch for 80$ a while ago. im crying.
Your code doesn't work
This price range this watch worth or not ?
Ty this video!
Is the code in the description for 20% off or $20 off?
Those are $20 off codes. Must have been very late at night when I typed it 🙂 Thank you for pointing out! 🙂👍 I'll fix it asap.
A very odd decision to leave off the date on a traveller's GMT.
That rehaut is as deep as a can of cat food seems like it could have been thinner without it
You have ask who is actually working on making these watches to produce them so cheaply.
Wow, pretty nice.
why cant I find a nice BB58 in 39-40mm???
Thorn?
No date is a massive plus.
Why would a gmt need spectacular lume??
The bracelet is the deal breaker for me. I wouldn't want it on leather and natos look 💩 on anything other than a military field watch.
Mnogo je lep sat. Ali šteta je što je GMT, to je potpuni promašaj za ručni mehanički sat. Kome uopšte treba 4.-ta kazaljka?
Nice 👍👍👍
Very beginning right now. Let me guess .. still Bad lume.... Problematic clasp... Also probably ghost date and 120 click divers bezel instead of bi-directional 48 clicks. I sorry wish Pagani design would put effort into sharing off a mm or two and not do those display case backs on nh35s...
The no date is my preference most of the time.
$150 on sale is still a bit too much for all those flaws.
Yet to use a PD bracelet.
The problem.of.pagani IS the lume
NH34 comes with a date function, so it must have a ghost date when positioning the crown? Those end links are just unforgivable, the lume is pathetic and 120 click unidirectional bezel hard pass. Hope to see better homages from other brands in 2024 of the Spirit Z time.
It's worth like $45 max.
It probably costs about $12 to ship. It has got to be worth more than $33?
No more homage watches for me. I'd rather either save up for an original or do without.
I'm going to have to say it, i hate 40 mm and lower watches. I can't see them until i bring them right up to my face. And then there's this rule about watch sizes. Why? I buy big watches all the time and love that i can easily tell the time. I got a sugsess chronograph recently and while i do love the style i hate the puny size of the watch yet many belivece thats the correct size. In my opinion, its too tiny.
I’ll never buy another GMT from Pagani. The GMT hand has never kept time on both of my previous Pagani purchases. They fooled me twice so shame on me. There won’t be a third fooling.
You probably had watches with a Pearl movement. Seiko NH34 is much better.
Правильно, настоящие часы должны быть "командирские" 😂
Безусловно 🙂👍
PD For $200 definitely no. I would prefer to buy Cronos or San Martin much better quality.
Unidirectional 120 click bezel for a GMT is nonsense. Don't make excuses for it.
True and the reason not to buy this watch.
No good lume, no date at 6 and no bi directional bezel at that price? No thank you. A watch that Pagani would have thought better... a shame, it could have been their best watch... but noo... 😑
Longines design
It definitely lives up to your You Tube name......Shiny. $200 is far far too much for this shiny crap looking watch.
I saw one at £134 in Ali express. Not sure how much that is in $
One man’s shiny crap is another man’s ‘wee little gem’!
The Longines is just as shiny....
Too much. Under 100 is best
Hate the design and for a Pagani it's way too expensive .. 👎 on this one.
Looks like a knock off Longines Zulu time. Hard pass