I’ve “been doing CrossFit” for almost 3 years but really I’ve been saying for 1 year because that’s when I started following their recommendation on nutrition. I’ve lost almost 75lbs and feel better than I have in a very long time. I say all the time if you just come and do the WOD but your nutrition sucks, you’re not doing CrossFit.
You really have a talent for going on 12min tangents where 11 minutes in I'm still thinking "where is he going with this?!". That being said , most of the time, you manage to reel me back in in the end
The clock brings fear to the workout and the fear and pushing through the fear and pain is what builds the mental strength. For me, the nutrition, the workouts, the clock are all what makes Crossfit what it is, but true Crossfit demands that at least a few times a week you are gong to show up and give maximal effort, regardless of how scared you are or the consequences. This is what makes it so special and hooks us. The level of total commitment it requires and the feeling you get once you break through that barrier. Every day is a new mountain to climb.
I do not personally partake in CrossFit but I enjoy watching it and plan to go into a box one day and give it a go. But these videos always peak my interest. Keep it up Hiller!
I think it’s a matter of framing. Crossfit is for everyone in the sense that anyone who shows up and follows the methodology at their own pace is a Crossfitter. The gatekeepy thing is telling someone who’s balancing other responsibilities in their life that the effort they put in is not enough because they dont count their macros or know their Fran time. They’ll agree that they are not Crossfit athletes, but if they are not doing crossfit 3x a week when they show up at the box, what are they doing? It doesn’t mean u have to reward people just for showing up, but u also cant expect them to feel welcome and included when you tell them they are not doing Crossfit because they aren’t committed enough. The difference with catholic school is that religion is imposed on u as a kid (usually) and only later u get to decide whether u believe in it or not as a teenager/adult. Most people show up at CrossFit affiliates as adults and have a history with sports, food and belief so when we talk about inclusion, we mean that we want these guys to feel like they can participate and improve on the sport and its a long term thing, instead of a “join the cult to look ripped and be awesome by following these 12 steps”. Crossfit can be a lifestyle, but should it be? Is that how u would define a crossfitter? Again, framing and definitions. But also, what approach would benefit the brand and community in the long term?
I am surprised Andrew hasn't responded to your comment here. This is what I came here to say. I think it's odd to suggest someone isn't a cross fitter if they go do CrossFit multiple times a week, but don't count their macros. That is entirely gatekeepy. I doubt any CrossFit gym is going to tell their clients they aren't cross fitters unless they do x, y, and z. Rather, I imagine most CrossFit gyms feel they are merely a gateway (san gatekeeper) to getting people on a healthier journey in life. It's highly likely folks will start to question their nutrition, sleep quality, etc. after they join a CrossFit gym (at least from my persona experience). Andrew's take is at odds with the reality of CrossFit in that sense.
@@colemyers7250 i think he’s probably busy and it’s ok. I think Andrew, Sevan and this particular subset of crossfit fans are scared that the meaning of being a Crossfit will become watered down for the sake of inclusion. They love the affiliates and have mentioned countlessly how much the brand owes to them but does not give them the attention they deserve. However, they don’t want to neglect that X factor that awakens when they take their weekly crossfit classes more seriously. I just think they are forgetting that every person who’s fallen in love with crossfit has had a different journey and is not fully available at every moment of their life to be a fitness enthusiast. Sometimes fitness is showing up and not sitting on the couch after a long day at the office because right now, that’s the best you can do. It’s not ideal by any means but we cannot tell this person “well sorry, not good enough for us”.
This is the take I didnt know I needed. I always thought it was weird that we were dumbing everything down to include everyone, to the point where the guys/gals who are trying hard in workouts at their box are considered the "crazy" ones. I respect that we can provide a service for everyday folks to participate in physical activity in a great environment with great people, but i also feel some type of way when they say "im a CrossFitter". But I also feel that it would be unfair, given the circumstance, to exclude them from the community if theyre not eating correctly or pushing their workouts.
Holy shit, I'm a Hiller fan, a scholar of religion, Clergy, and someone who identifies as a crossfitter. This is my arena. However, I can use you're Catholic example to prove the counterpoint. Vatican 2 changed the Mass from Latin to English. Why? So that more people could participate, find meaning, and belonging during the Mass. Catholicism changed. In order to be more available to the masses (pun sort of intended). It's ok for CrossFit to change in the pursuit of changing more people's lives. What you're describing is what I'll call CrossFit Fundamentalism. Fundamentalism draws strict lines of what is and is not important, has a preference for an unchanging interpretation, and wants to have distinction between who is included vs. not. Here's the thing. Religious fundamentalists (including family members) have been telling me for decades that I'm 'not a real Christian' because I didn't fit their definition; you as a CrossFit fundamentalist are saying I'm not a real CrossFitter because of how I de-prioritize nutrition. I'm still a crossfitter.
I was an altar boy when that change was made. I liked it but others in my Irish catholic family disagreed vehemently. It was very controversial for some.
You haven't proven anything. Nothing you've said establishes that CrossFit's changing to be "more available to the masses" is a good thing. You haven't even proven Vatican 2 was a good thing for Catholicism. You've just assumed it. If I recall correctly, it was highly controversial then and still is to some extent today. And changes in a variety of Christian denominations, made in the name of being more inclusive, have been a disaster I'd claim, to the point there are many clergy in a variety of churches no longer really expousing Christianity at all. It's worse than that. The embrace of all sorts of LBGTQ perversions is a direct attack on God himself, conducted from the pulpits of mainline protestant churches. All of this happening at the same time church attendance is dramatically dropping is just a coincidence, I'm sure. Right? No, it's not. People don't seek religion for a malleable, inclusive, socially-approved, believe-whatever-you-want, it's only about love, way of life.
The Mass was significantly changed apart from even just the language. References to “sacrifice” were removed and there were movements for the laity to “make things what they want”. Say what you want, but the state of the Church has certainly gotten worse in terms of fundamental beliefs like the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and belief in the reality of sin
8:45 They did change the Bible and the religion, Constantine forced Rome to adopt Christianity which their holy day was the seventh day of the week according to the Old Testament and the book of Genesis. (Sabbath, god created earth in six days and rested on the seventh and thus was holy), but saw the people were resistant since ppl were already pagans who held the first day of the week as holy (Sunday… for worshipping the sun, Day of the Sun, Sun’s Day, Sunday, for the sun… pagan’s most important god figure). So Constantine forced the Christian religion to change their holy day from the seventh day to the first day. Rome changed their name for the first day to Domingo… meaning “day of our lord” is Latin. All to be more inclusive. The seven days of the week were named after the seven lights in the sky that aren’t stars, Sunday (sun), Monday (moon), Tuesday (Mars), Wes (Mercury), Thurs (Jupiter), Fri (Venus), Sat (Saturn).Early civilization thought those lights were gods, and called them wanderers because they seemed to wander independent of the hundreds of stars fixed in place. The word planet means “wanderer”. The whole origin of the calendar year, months, weeks, days, etc. are rooted in real astronomy and math. Religions just adopted stories over it. Interesting stuff to look into. Anyways, thanks for attending my Ted Talk.
I feel like CrossFit coupled with walking is the cheat code. Walking is amazing for digesting food and low back pain. High intensity and low intensity a hybrid.
Really like the Catholic and Bible analogy Andrew. It doesn’t matter what you think the Bible says, it only matters what it actually says. There are many that try make the Bible for their lifestyle so they can justify the way they live. EVEN religions now interpreting the Bible in a way that fits their members. That’s why there must be a clear definition of a Crossfitter and even movement standards that DO NOT change. Great talk Hiller!
I walked in a bar. I brought up crossfit. 1 dude "said what is crossfit?" Bartender immediately responded, " I think it's a lifestyle. I was surprised to hear that. Maybe it is, a community, in my opinion it's a commitment to being the best you can be. Helping others also by supporting their heath journey. Physical health breads mental health. That's HUGE. Anyone that wants to get healthy and be their best is it. Everyone doesn't want that and that's their choice. "JUST DO IT!" It saved my life ❤
I recently reminded my running partner that we, Andrew Hiller and the majority of people viewing and commenting on this video, have abnormal relationships with exercise and fitness. We are outliers. Exercise is not for everyone. Some people avoid it at all costs. There should be a place in the gym for everyone from those healing a disease to those preventing them. Maybe that's why we don't all go to the same place. Some are happy with or need machines. I prefer a field and some other gear. There is room for all. Just not one room.
1) CrossFit is a methodology not a religion. As an academic, any methodology is always worth critiquing and reiterating. 2) The Bible went through many iterations throughout history, why do you think the one we all read is called “The King James Bible”? Why do you think there’s a New and Old Testament? 3) I saw another commenter say that your interpretation of CrossFit is fundamentalist and I thought that was fantastic. I fear it’s this very fundamentalism that leads to the average joe thinking that CrossFit is a religious cult. You have the introduction of new language, controlling of eating, following the guidance of only one individual, it fits the BITE model for defining cults. 4) Just curious about how you’re interpreting “100 Words” as “being aware of what you eat”. Vegans are very conscious of what they eat, but they don’t follow “100 Words”. Are they or are they not CrossFitters?
So True. I may not be 100% or be able to hit every weight I want to on a given day. When I do show up, I'll put it whatever effort I have that day, and try to beat that clock. The only out I allow myself is injury or extreme sickness (fever, etc.). The discipline from showing up 6x a week even when I don't want to and maintaining a good diet has carried over into other aspects of my life.
I’m a blend. Drank the kool-aid hardcore for years. Now I do a little bit of everything and I do NOT stress a clock 70% of the time.. but my nutrition is on point. Guess I ain’t a crossfitter 😜
If you don’t convert freeway signs into meters and think how long it would take to run are you even a crossfitter? Ooh 3/4 mile to my exit, that’s 3 400’s. 6 min.
The Cop analogy is spot on! I'm here to learn a little about law so I don't get into trouble down the line, not to be a attorney.Flipped...I'm doing CrossFit so the wheels don't fall of when I reach 65 and I can wipe my own butt, not win the Games!
I appreciate your expansion on the thoughts; however the problem with videos like this is it’s a Crossfitter talking to other Crossfitters about what makes a Crossfitter. I’d like to hear more about CrossFit being for anyone and what that means. When I started I couldn’t do a lunge and could hardly get off the ground from a burpee. Crossfit changed my life! However, the way we talk about it gets interpreted as too intense by the people that need it the most. They don’t understand the nuance of the conversation so this is fine for your channel for Crossfitters. Out in the world the message needs to focus on the “anyone” part.
If we are going to expand on the catholic analogy here is what i will add: Yet, you can still be a catholic when you break those commandments IF YOU REPENT!! EX: have a glass of wine at a wedding but on Monday you do a harder workout than normal (murph). I realized yesterday at the gym that I was truly a crossfitter because I was one of two people at my college gym who was cycling a barbell under a time domain and sweating (the other person was an Olympic lifter).
I used to have clients that CF'd like crazy, but didn't eat ENOUGH. CF can be a stressor, so if you aren't managing by recovering, eating well, eating enough, sleeping, pooping, managing other stressors in your life, etc., then it isn't for you. You will probably break.
Been trying to incorporate more nutrition into my coaching & goal sessions with members! I need to print a giant CF pyramid - I got my L1 when Reebok was still giving us tees & that pyramid is on the back & I wish we could get more of them made. We love exercise but nutrition is the true key! (To health…& longevity in fitness)
The CrossFit diet prescription in the 100 Words, "Eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat.", is not the Zone diet. The Zone diet is a specific prescription for how to eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar, particulary, how to portion macros and the frequency of meals. I take myself to follow the former, usually, but not the latter. I don't care to calculate macro ratios or count calories for that matter, and just focus on eating meat, vegetables, and fruit in whatever ratio of macros feels good.
@hiller, I don’t think the two of you are necessarily mutually exclusive. When I started CrossFit, I wasn’t a full “convert” at first, but I would still say that I was doing CrossFit. I had a lot of the elements but overtime I began to incorporate more and more things such as nutrition. I think the inclusivity comes when people and coaches in the class are welcoming to anyone that shows up and gives everyone a chance to drink the Kool-Aid ultimately, though, you are correct to be a true CrossFit are you Gotta be all in
This is more of a conversation of when does someone who does CrossFit become a Crossfitter. Can you be a Crossfitter by showing up to the box, following the clock and pushing themselves most days? If you show up to a mountain, throw on skis and go down the hill - are you not a skier?
i'm a runner ... every body can run but it's not for everyone .... but why I like running and will never do crossfit is because you can run 100 m or 42.2km and you still can call yourself a runner. Food for thoughts
You went through how the Ten Commandments point out that we all fall short. We cannot meet the standard God set, and the penalty is death, unless someone pays the price for you. Just like in a court of law, a good judge doesn’t lower the standard. But if someone pays your penalty you can go free. And Jesus did that for you so you don’t have to be pressed by guilt.
Random thoughts? I grew up Catholic, but now am non denominational! I Love My Lord And Savior! That being said? I am Constantly Varied Functioning Moving all Day friggin Long but at medium intensity! Ha At 60yrs old and seeing younger/ older peeps at the gym moving that typically have a sedentary lifestyle? There is a community! CrossFit works! And did I mention that I Love My Lord and Savior?! Ha
Let us all pray for Kerida. Dear Lord, our sister has a Satanic malignancy in her soul, the demon of inclusivity. May you give her the strength and wisdom to find her way to the Redeemer, Pukie the Clown. Amen. Lol. My Chicago born, Polish Catholic mom would not be happy with this playful blasphemy. I'm feeling a tinge of shame.
@@hillerfit obviously not, since it will definitely skew and give you unrealistic results If you put in a 50% effort, on juice, you'll get results equal to 60% effort (or more). Meaning, cheating your own biology. + its not really mentioned in the crossfit methodology I think that should disqualify you as a crossfitter, if you do any modification to your bodies natural potential.
Nice discussion. I think you’ve hit on a current trend where people want something to be, but it’s just not true. You want it to be true. It’s just not reality. Like…I run marathons, but don’t run farther than a mile. I’m a vegan but eat meat five days a week. At some point it’s just not true.
It's all about intensity. Which is where the time domain comes into play. It's like people who track their steps. You know I got my 3000 steps in today and they are drinking and coke and eating chips.
I agree with you, but I will say: Christianity (use that word loosely) did change to “gain members” over time. Adding pagan holidays and mixing them with Christian ones (Christmas in Dec, Easter, etc..) women pastors and dare I say without being killed…. Acceptance of homosexuality 😬😬😬 I feel like I need to note that I don’t care what people do in the bedroom or really anything in their lives as long as they don’t infringe on others’ rights.
How the 10 commandments are interpreted changes all of the time…thou shalt not kill…seems pretty unambiguous but of course most Christian leaders would say not a sin if in self defense or under an authorization of war etc but that’s not what it says. Rule books, am I right? We all know what a thruster is
Actually the word for “kill” is better translated “murder” which self defense or accidental manslaughter is not. The rest of Leviticus expounds on this. The Jews weren’t dumb
I see it in the entertainment industry all the time: "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one." Making something "for everyone" simply comes from greed, since they can then sell it to more people. But in the long run it loses all value. A decade from now, Crossfit might be unrecognizable :(.
Regardless of what your nutrition is if you come and do the CrossFit workout then you do CrossFit To say that if you don’t eat the CrossFit way you don’t do CrossFit is stupid. Even Froning used to eat like crap when he competed in CrossFit. I guess he wasn’t a crossfitter? Do I think it’s important to eat healthy? Of course. And if you look at a lot of the competitive athletes they eat a lot of starch…
Evolution is not for everyone..CrossFit performed as a member or professional is also not for everyone…even any random task performed in live is not for everyone..but any task can be scaled and therefor taught and conquered by anyone…somehow this feels religious..mind blown😂😂
Great points, if you don’t have a North Star, you won’t go in the right direction. However, I’m a vegan crossfitter. I eat beans, veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds but I don’t eat processed garbage . Forgive me Father for I have sinned. 😅
Yep, same for people who say they need to change the game workouts/events for viewers who don't know what crossfit is. That's a no. People need to learn what crossfit is not change it to something they already know. You can't compare other sports like elite runners, swimmers, weightlifter to crossfit. Broad time and modal domains, it's not specialization.
Wait wait wait first of all this is NOT the direction I saw this going but also…… there is enormous selective interpretation of the Bible, that’s like the entire mo of modern religion. That’s why we’re okay with wearing blended fabric and also not stoning women.
Not a Catholic, but I see the Catholic Church having way more longevity than the CrossFit methodology. People are going to discover you can’t do it for a lifetime. You’ll break. You’ll see.
@@JimmyAlbrecht I don’t accept your premise. They’re aren’t that many 50+ year olds doing CrossFit. Look at the Open numbers. Try setting up a local comp with a 50+ division and see how many sign up. Regardless, NOBODY has been doing Crossfit that long. Keep gorging on that cortisol. It will catch up with you. Argue with me in 10 years.
I’ve “been doing CrossFit” for almost 3 years but really I’ve been saying for 1 year because that’s when I started following their recommendation on nutrition. I’ve lost almost 75lbs and feel better than I have in a very long time. I say all the time if you just come and do the WOD but your nutrition sucks, you’re not doing CrossFit.
I know I’ve seen you pop up on the comments before often, but this is the best comment ever.
You really have a talent for going on 12min tangents where 11 minutes in I'm still thinking "where is he going with this?!". That being said , most of the time, you manage to reel me back in in the end
The clock brings fear to the workout and the fear and pushing through the fear and pain is what builds the mental strength. For me, the nutrition, the workouts, the clock are all what makes Crossfit what it is, but true Crossfit demands that at least a few times a week you are gong to show up and give maximal effort, regardless of how scared you are or the consequences. This is what makes it so special and hooks us. The level of total commitment it requires and the feeling you get once you break through that barrier. Every day is a new mountain to climb.
I do not personally partake in CrossFit but I enjoy watching it and plan to go into a box one day and give it a go. But these videos always peak my interest. Keep it up Hiller!
Awesome. I’ll be waiting for the day 🫡
Don’t wait, do it! Your interest is there, walking thru the door is the hardest part. When you do, you’ll regret you didn’t sooner! Good luck!!
I think it’s a matter of framing. Crossfit is for everyone in the sense that anyone who shows up and follows the methodology at their own pace is a Crossfitter. The gatekeepy thing is telling someone who’s balancing other responsibilities in their life that the effort they put in is not enough because they dont count their macros or know their Fran time. They’ll agree that they are not Crossfit athletes, but if they are not doing crossfit 3x a week when they show up at the box, what are they doing? It doesn’t mean u have to reward people just for showing up, but u also cant expect them to feel welcome and included when you tell them they are not doing Crossfit because they aren’t committed enough.
The difference with catholic school is that religion is imposed on u as a kid (usually) and only later u get to decide whether u believe in it or not as a teenager/adult. Most people show up at CrossFit affiliates as adults and have a history with sports, food and belief so when we talk about inclusion, we mean that we want these guys to feel like they can participate and improve on the sport and its a long term thing, instead of a “join the cult to look ripped and be awesome by following these 12 steps”. Crossfit can be a lifestyle, but should it be? Is that how u would define a crossfitter?
Again, framing and definitions. But also, what approach would benefit the brand and community in the long term?
I am surprised Andrew hasn't responded to your comment here. This is what I came here to say. I think it's odd to suggest someone isn't a cross fitter if they go do CrossFit multiple times a week, but don't count their macros. That is entirely gatekeepy. I doubt any CrossFit gym is going to tell their clients they aren't cross fitters unless they do x, y, and z. Rather, I imagine most CrossFit gyms feel they are merely a gateway (san gatekeeper) to getting people on a healthier journey in life. It's highly likely folks will start to question their nutrition, sleep quality, etc. after they join a CrossFit gym (at least from my persona experience). Andrew's take is at odds with the reality of CrossFit in that sense.
@@colemyers7250 i think he’s probably busy and it’s ok. I think Andrew, Sevan and this particular subset of crossfit fans are scared that the meaning of being a Crossfit will become watered down for the sake of inclusion. They love the affiliates and have mentioned countlessly how much the brand owes to them but does not give them the attention they deserve. However, they don’t want to neglect that X factor that awakens when they take their weekly crossfit classes more seriously. I just think they are forgetting that every person who’s fallen in love with crossfit has had a different journey and is not fully available at every moment of their life to be a fitness enthusiast. Sometimes fitness is showing up and not sitting on the couch after a long day at the office because right now, that’s the best you can do. It’s not ideal by any means but we cannot tell this person “well sorry, not good enough for us”.
This is the take I didnt know I needed. I always thought it was weird that we were dumbing everything down to include everyone, to the point where the guys/gals who are trying hard in workouts at their box are considered the "crazy" ones.
I respect that we can provide a service for everyday folks to participate in physical activity in a great environment with great people, but i also feel some type of way when they say "im a CrossFitter". But I also feel that it would be unfair, given the circumstance, to exclude them from the community if theyre not eating correctly or pushing their workouts.
Thou shalt be drenched in sweat, gasping for breath. Amen.
Hallelujah
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Thanks gangster
Holy shit, I'm a Hiller fan, a scholar of religion, Clergy, and someone who identifies as a crossfitter. This is my arena. However, I can use you're Catholic example to prove the counterpoint. Vatican 2 changed the Mass from Latin to English. Why? So that more people could participate, find meaning, and belonging during the Mass. Catholicism changed. In order to be more available to the masses (pun sort of intended). It's ok for CrossFit to change in the pursuit of changing more people's lives.
What you're describing is what I'll call CrossFit Fundamentalism. Fundamentalism draws strict lines of what is and is not important, has a preference for an unchanging interpretation, and wants to have distinction between who is included vs. not. Here's the thing. Religious fundamentalists (including family members) have been telling me for decades that I'm 'not a real Christian' because I didn't fit their definition; you as a CrossFit fundamentalist are saying I'm not a real CrossFitter because of how I de-prioritize nutrition. I'm still a crossfitter.
This is cool! I’m curious the major things that were changed along with the language in the Catholic Church?
I was an altar boy when that change was made. I liked it but others in my Irish catholic family disagreed vehemently. It was very controversial for some.
You haven't proven anything. Nothing you've said establishes that CrossFit's changing to be "more available to the masses" is a good thing. You haven't even proven Vatican 2 was a good thing for Catholicism. You've just assumed it. If I recall correctly, it was highly controversial then and still is to some extent today. And changes in a variety of Christian denominations, made in the name of being more inclusive, have been a disaster I'd claim, to the point there are many clergy in a variety of churches no longer really expousing Christianity at all. It's worse than that. The embrace of all sorts of LBGTQ perversions is a direct attack on God himself, conducted from the pulpits of mainline protestant churches. All of this happening at the same time church attendance is dramatically dropping is just a coincidence, I'm sure. Right? No, it's not. People don't seek religion for a malleable, inclusive, socially-approved, believe-whatever-you-want, it's only about love, way of life.
The Mass was significantly changed apart from even just the language. References to “sacrifice” were removed and there were movements for the laity to “make things what they want”. Say what you want, but the state of the Church has certainly gotten worse in terms of fundamental beliefs like the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and belief in the reality of sin
8:45 They did change the Bible and the religion, Constantine forced Rome to adopt Christianity which their holy day was the seventh day of the week according to the Old Testament and the book of Genesis. (Sabbath, god created earth in six days and rested on the seventh and thus was holy), but saw the people were resistant since ppl were already pagans who held the first day of the week as holy (Sunday… for worshipping the sun, Day of the Sun, Sun’s Day, Sunday, for the sun… pagan’s most important god figure). So Constantine forced the Christian religion to change their holy day from the seventh day to the first day. Rome changed their name for the first day to Domingo… meaning “day of our lord” is Latin. All to be more inclusive. The seven days of the week were named after the seven lights in the sky that aren’t stars, Sunday (sun), Monday (moon), Tuesday (Mars), Wes (Mercury), Thurs (Jupiter), Fri (Venus), Sat (Saturn).Early civilization thought those lights were gods, and called them wanderers because they seemed to wander independent of the hundreds of stars fixed in place. The word planet means “wanderer”. The whole origin of the calendar year, months, weeks, days, etc. are rooted in real astronomy and math. Religions just adopted stories over it. Interesting stuff to look into. Anyways, thanks for attending my Ted Talk.
It’s mind blowing how every single clip of Greg talking has some TED talk level genius points. Is there a library of his talks somewhere?
I have the same thought and question!
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I feel like CrossFit coupled with walking is the cheat code. Walking is amazing for digesting food and low back pain. High intensity and low intensity a hybrid.
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Really like the Catholic and Bible analogy Andrew. It doesn’t matter what you think the Bible says, it only matters what it actually says. There are many that try make the Bible for their lifestyle so they can justify the way they live. EVEN religions now interpreting the Bible in a way that fits their members.
That’s why there must be a clear definition of a Crossfitter and even movement standards that DO NOT change. Great talk Hiller!
I walked in a bar. I brought up crossfit. 1 dude "said what is crossfit?" Bartender immediately responded, " I think it's a lifestyle. I was surprised to hear that. Maybe it is, a community, in my opinion it's a commitment to being the best you can be. Helping others also by supporting their heath journey. Physical health breads mental health. That's HUGE. Anyone that wants to get healthy and be their best is it. Everyone doesn't want that and that's their choice.
"JUST DO IT!" It saved my life ❤
JUST DO IT!!! I like the “it’s a lifestyle” but maybe it’s whatever you want it to be, as long as it betters your life. Which I believe it always does
is street workout the same similar or different than crossfit? thanks!
I recently reminded my running partner that we, Andrew Hiller and the majority of people viewing and commenting on this video, have abnormal relationships with exercise and fitness. We are outliers. Exercise is not for everyone. Some people avoid it at all costs. There should be a place in the gym for everyone from those healing a disease to those preventing them. Maybe that's why we don't all go to the same place. Some are happy with or need machines. I prefer a field and some other gear. There is room for all. Just not one room.
I do think that anyone can fit the mold. But there is a mold to be fit into
1) CrossFit is a methodology not a religion. As an academic, any methodology is always worth critiquing and reiterating.
2) The Bible went through many iterations throughout history, why do you think the one we all read is called “The King James Bible”? Why do you think there’s a New and Old Testament?
3) I saw another commenter say that your interpretation of CrossFit is fundamentalist and I thought that was fantastic. I fear it’s this very fundamentalism that leads to the average joe thinking that CrossFit is a religious cult. You have the introduction of new language, controlling of eating, following the guidance of only one individual, it fits the BITE model for defining cults.
4) Just curious about how you’re interpreting “100 Words” as “being aware of what you eat”. Vegans are very conscious of what they eat, but they don’t follow “100 Words”. Are they or are they not CrossFitters?
There must be a certain willingness to suffer. So many want zero part of suffering.
Not in our world
Really love the message here. Thank you!
So True. I may not be 100% or be able to hit every weight I want to on a given day. When I do show up, I'll put it whatever effort I have that day, and try to beat that clock. The only out I allow myself is injury or extreme sickness (fever, etc.). The discipline from showing up 6x a week even when I don't want to and maintaining a good diet has carried over into other aspects of my life.
I’m a blend. Drank the kool-aid hardcore for years. Now I do a little bit of everything and I do NOT stress a clock 70% of the time.. but my nutrition is on point. Guess I ain’t a crossfitter 😜
Well it sounds like the clock plays a role SOMETIMES
@@hillerfit you are correct my friend. Love your channel. Keep it up brother 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I wish I understood anything Glassman said so I could also be enlightened
*tells the internet not to be a dick*
Bold strategy Cotton 😂
Worth a shot 😅
Favorite Hiller video so far!
Am I insane that anyone/ everything isn't new? I've been saying that for years and just assumed I picked it up at my L1 or L2
Nope it’s been around. Just not echoed
If RUclips allowed me to respond with gifs, I would post one of thousands of people standing up and applauding loudly.
If you don’t convert freeway signs into meters and think how long it would take to run are you even a crossfitter?
Ooh 3/4 mile to my exit, that’s 3 400’s. 6 min.
Lived in Europe & totally did this minus having to do the conversion 😂 🤓
@@raejoy87 you are a crossfitter my friend
For Al Gore's rhythm
He's a good dude
Bro invented the internet
The Cop analogy is spot on! I'm here to learn a little about law so I don't get into trouble down the line, not to be a attorney.Flipped...I'm doing CrossFit so the wheels don't fall of when I reach 65 and I can wipe my own butt, not win the Games!
I appreciate your expansion on the thoughts; however the problem with videos like this is it’s a Crossfitter talking to other Crossfitters about what makes a Crossfitter. I’d like to hear more about CrossFit being for anyone and what that means. When I started I couldn’t do a lunge and could hardly get off the ground from a burpee. Crossfit changed my life! However, the way we talk about it gets interpreted as too intense by the people that need it the most. They don’t understand the nuance of the conversation so this is fine for your channel for Crossfitters. Out in the world the message needs to focus on the “anyone” part.
If we are going to expand on the catholic analogy here is what i will add: Yet, you can still be a catholic when you break those commandments IF YOU REPENT!! EX: have a glass of wine at a wedding but on Monday you do a harder workout than normal (murph).
I realized yesterday at the gym that I was truly a crossfitter because I was one of two people at my college gym who was cycling a barbell under a time domain and sweating (the other person was an Olympic lifter).
yep, Crossfitters sweat alot at the school gym. Metcons will do it!
“What you eat” doesn’t make you CrossFit. That’s a No Rep! Void for vagueness!
Still luv your shit keep going
I used to have clients that CF'd like crazy, but didn't eat ENOUGH. CF can be a stressor, so if you aren't managing by recovering, eating well, eating enough, sleeping, pooping, managing other stressors in your life, etc., then it isn't for you. You will probably break.
The best video yet !!
Damnit dude, this is brilliant! You are entirely NOT off your rocker! Peeps are tripping, and you're trying to pull out the sticks in front of them!!
When is strict pull ups coming???
Been trying to incorporate more nutrition into my coaching & goal sessions with members! I need to print a giant CF pyramid - I got my L1 when Reebok was still giving us tees & that pyramid is on the back & I wish we could get more of them made. We love exercise but nutrition is the true key! (To health…& longevity in fitness)
You're right, we all know the people who try crossfit but cant handle the intensity, discomfort, and fear of failing. They go to f45
BURN
I agree with her. By Hiller’s standards, most of my box aren’t CrossFitters. Including me. But who cares? Buncha hunks.
You get it Hiller. Well said.
CrossFit is for anyone who is willing to put in the work. However, not everyone is willing to do so.
Well done Hiller
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Get em 🙌
So specifically Zone diet or not a CrossFitter?
The CrossFit diet prescription in the 100 Words, "Eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat.", is not the Zone diet. The Zone diet is a specific prescription for how to eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar, particulary, how to portion macros and the frequency of meals. I take myself to follow the former, usually, but not the latter. I don't care to calculate macro ratios or count calories for that matter, and just focus on eating meat, vegetables, and fruit in whatever ratio of macros feels good.
@@ClockCutter Right. Sometimes I want lots of pasta and might not hit the "optimal" percentage of protein. I don't want that stressing me out haha.
8:20 listen to the “clock” from the sevan comments 😂
"...thou shalt honor thy founder..." yes
Woah
@@hillerfit hey, you said it...i just agreed!
@hiller, I don’t think the two of you are necessarily mutually exclusive. When I started CrossFit, I wasn’t a full “convert” at first, but I would still say that I was doing CrossFit. I had a lot of the elements but overtime I began to incorporate more and more things such as nutrition. I think the inclusivity comes when people and coaches in the class are welcoming to anyone that shows up and gives everyone a chance to drink the Kool-Aid ultimately, though, you are correct to be a true CrossFit are you Gotta be all in
OMG thank you for civil discourse!!
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Excellent!
isn’t anything for anyone but not everyone? Not trying to troll. Serious question.
Yes. It’s a vacuous statement that sounds profound.
@@Geogaddii haha glad it isn’t just me
AMEN🙏 🙏 🙏
Amen.
Love your videos.
This is more of a conversation of when does someone who does CrossFit become a Crossfitter. Can you be a Crossfitter by showing up to the box, following the clock and pushing themselves most days? If you show up to a mountain, throw on skis and go down the hill - are you not a skier?
I play golf sometimes, but I am most certainly not a golfer. I'm terrible and just do it to spend time with friends who enjoy it.
i'm a runner ... every body can run but it's not for everyone .... but why I like running and will never do crossfit is because you can run 100 m or 42.2km and you still can call yourself a runner. Food for thoughts
Commenting because i want other people to see this video
Amen
the big c catholic thing tracks so hard. #guilt #shame #selfflagellation #excommunication
SHAME
Never a controversial title. 😂😂
Only sometimes
You went through how the Ten Commandments point out that we all fall short. We cannot meet the standard God set, and the penalty is death, unless someone pays the price for you. Just like in a court of law, a good judge doesn’t lower the standard. But if someone pays your penalty you can go free. And Jesus did that for you so you don’t have to be pressed by guilt.
I wish CrossFit would hire you.
Random thoughts? I grew up Catholic, but now am non denominational!
I Love My Lord And Savior!
That being said?
I am Constantly Varied Functioning Moving all Day friggin Long but at medium intensity! Ha
At 60yrs old and seeing younger/ older peeps at the gym moving that typically have a sedentary lifestyle? There is a community!
CrossFit works!
And did I mention that I Love My Lord and Savior?! Ha
Let us all pray for Kerida. Dear Lord, our sister has a Satanic malignancy in her soul, the demon of inclusivity. May you give her the strength and wisdom to find her way to the Redeemer, Pukie the Clown. Amen.
Lol. My Chicago born, Polish Catholic mom would not be happy with this playful blasphemy. I'm feeling a tinge of shame.
4th 😢 missed podium
Getting soft
Yep
What about taking steroids and peds... ?
Are you a crossfitter if you're on juice?
How does that affect your vulnerabilities?
I have no current opinion on this and am open to being swayed. However, I wounded if it matters if you’re open about it
@@hillerfit obviously not, since it will definitely skew and give you unrealistic results
If you put in a 50% effort, on juice, you'll get results equal to 60% effort (or more). Meaning, cheating your own biology.
+ its not really mentioned in the crossfit methodology
I think that should disqualify you as a crossfitter, if you do any modification to your bodies natural potential.
Nice discussion. I think you’ve hit on a current trend where people want something to be, but it’s just not true. You want it to be true. It’s just not reality. Like…I run marathons, but don’t run farther than a mile. I’m a vegan but eat meat five days a week. At some point it’s just not true.
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Was Rich not a CrossFitter when he wasn’t counting macros and drinking chocolate milk?
It's all about intensity. Which is where the time domain comes into play. It's like people who track their steps. You know I got my 3000 steps in today and they are drinking and coke and eating chips.
IMO intensity turns into vulnerability?
@@hillerfit exactly nothing more vulnerable than laying on the floor in a pool of sweat thinking holy poop that sucked but I made it through
I agree with you, but I will say: Christianity (use that word loosely) did change to “gain members” over time. Adding pagan holidays and mixing them with Christian ones (Christmas in Dec, Easter, etc..) women pastors and dare I say without being killed…. Acceptance of homosexuality 😬😬😬
I feel like I need to note that I don’t care what people do in the bedroom or really anything in their lives as long as they don’t infringe on others’ rights.
I'm pretty sure that's an argument for maintaining CF orthodoxy, given the plight of Christianity today with all its liberal reforms.
@@ClockCutter I don’t disagree, just wanted to point it out.
@@J_Wolfe86I understand. I didn't take you to be saying the changes in Christianity were necessarily a good thing.
Any organization with no rules/boundaries/definitions is not an organization. It's literally nothing.
How the 10 commandments are interpreted changes all of the time…thou shalt not kill…seems pretty unambiguous but of course most Christian leaders would say not a sin if in self defense or under an authorization of war etc but that’s not what it says. Rule books, am I right? We all know what a thruster is
Thou shalt not murder. Different than killing
Agreed. Go to 5:27 and #5 on the list is "kill." Your book says "murder?" That goes to the other tricky part of the translations.
Actually the word for “kill” is better translated “murder” which self defense or accidental manslaughter is not. The rest of Leviticus expounds on this. The Jews weren’t dumb
Like for blue's clues
Call me a sinner. I want legs like…
I see it in the entertainment industry all the time: "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one." Making something "for everyone" simply comes from greed, since they can then sell it to more people. But in the long run it loses all value. A decade from now, Crossfit might be unrecognizable :(.
We don’t know that for sure. I think it’s at a tipping point. The message has to become stronger than ever
Blues Clues!!! …but I digress…
Fucking nailed that one dude!
Regardless of what your nutrition is if you come and do the CrossFit workout then you do CrossFit
To say that if you don’t eat the CrossFit way you don’t do CrossFit is stupid. Even Froning used to eat like crap when he competed in CrossFit. I guess he wasn’t a crossfitter? Do I think it’s important to eat healthy? Of course. And if you look at a lot of the competitive athletes they eat a lot of starch…
I never want to join a group or club tbat wants me as a member...
I just speak my truth
I also low Downers Grove. There's a cool board game shop there called Fair Game.
Don't belong to a box but follow 2 CrossFit athletes programming. Must be a CrossFitter. #PayHim 🦇
Algo
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It has always come across to me that you vibe 100% Catholic. It could be a game recognizes game thing.
Oh very interesting. You're probably right
Gameboy…The OG Nintendo switch? Do you coveted this ? 😏
Evolution is not for everyone..CrossFit performed as a member or professional is also not for everyone…even any random task performed in live is not for everyone..but any task can be scaled and therefor taught and conquered by anyone…somehow this feels religious..mind blown😂😂
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I'd much rather your definition of crossfit than the "cult" definition that gets thrown around
Shirtless is better.
Actually, I thinks that bible-thing got changed a few times....🧐
Great points, if you don’t have a North Star, you won’t go in the right direction. However, I’m a vegan crossfitter. I eat beans, veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds but I don’t eat processed garbage . Forgive me Father for I have sinned. 😅
It's ok I probably eat enough meat for the both of us.
You & me both, sis 🖤
Yep, same for people who say they need to change the game workouts/events for viewers who don't know what crossfit is. That's a no. People need to learn what crossfit is not change it to something they already know. You can't compare other sports like elite runners, swimmers, weightlifter to crossfit. Broad time and modal domains, it's not specialization.
You can’t sleep with your neighbors wife ? Damn it
Wait wait wait first of all this is NOT the direction I saw this going but also…… there is enormous selective interpretation of the Bible, that’s like the entire mo of modern religion. That’s why we’re okay with wearing blended fabric and also not stoning women.
When you gonna accept Islam?
He seems drunk honestly 🤔
Sports is not for everyone, but it is for anyone.
Not a Catholic, but I see the Catholic Church having way more longevity than the CrossFit methodology. People are going to discover you can’t do it for a lifetime. You’ll break. You’ll see.
Tell that to the 50+ year old men and women that show up 5 days a week in most CrossFit gyms.
@@JimmyAlbrecht I don’t accept your premise. They’re aren’t that many 50+ year olds doing CrossFit. Look at the Open numbers. Try setting up a local comp with a 50+ division and see how many sign up. Regardless, NOBODY has been doing Crossfit that long. Keep gorging on that cortisol. It will catch up with you. Argue with me in 10 years.
Meh.