i dont agree that a lot of people wont use that lumbar system on the razer, i think that is one of the biggest selling features and that why i got one ordered :D
not really sure why you brushed off the razer's clearly superior lumbar support by saying "most likely people won't take advantage of it". I mean, just by sitting in the chair you're taking advantage of it. If you meant people won't adjust it at all, I don't think that's true. It's really the reason I'm considering the razer iskur. But this video has kind of swayed my opinion a bit making me reconsider secretlab. And no offense but it's really hard to trust you when you're sponsored by secretlab, so I really don't know what to do.
the point is...the better way to know how is better for you, is sitting in both chairs, i can find a few places here in japan to test the razer iskur, but i never have seen a unique secret lab to test! they just want to make you buy a product that u cant sit to feel!
You make a very great point! Lets take the biggest feature of the razer and say “But most people wont be using it anyway, especially if you dont have back problems.” 😑 If its functional, for sure ill be using it!
I've owned the iskur for nearly 14 months, it's junk period. Piston failed, welds are inferior and break. This is an honest assessment from a razer customer since the tarantula keyboard some 20 years now. But after razer support hassled me about a kown issue for over 2 weeks, they lost my support for that company
For anyone that comes across this video like I did. The Razer is $379 on Amazon while the Secretlab chairs are still going for $500-$529. So at these prices points which one would be better? If you’re on a budget go for the Razer. If you have money to spend and want to customize the look of your chair go for the Secretlab.
They are 50% off right now, and I was totally looking at the House of Dragon colorway from Secretlab. BUT the Razer Iskur at $299 was a quick buy for me.
I've been having back issues and the Razer Iskur has been a god send. If your priority is a chair that will help you improve posture and relieve back pain I'd definitely recommend it. If you're looking for pure comfort, I think there are better options.
Thanks for your comment. After working 2 yrs at home sitting in a wrong chair, my whole back (especially my lower) is suddenly killing me. I will give it a try.
@@johnroady9495 Got the Iskur yesterday, my lower back was also hurting me lately. I defientely feel that Iskur helps a lot, really recommend it, it supports the back perfectly!
got the same chair, if you like to lean forward in your chair or you don't like leaning back into it the lumbar support is awesome cause you can adjust it to be supporting your lower back even if you are leaning forward or over the keyboard. The arms also have like 5 points of movement which are great; up and down, in or out, swivel, forward or back, inwards or outwards. Its even great for relaxing and watching movies. One thing though if you fart it makes it sound 3x as loud or like you shat yourself.
Got same chair in fabric few days ago. I'm 5'7 tall and skinny, it fits me perfect, however neck pillow doesn't fit me properly, took it off. Lumbar support is really great, I'm not a gamer at all, but I'm sitting at the computer for 8 hours every day, it's just a great ergonomic chair. But if you are not skinny, I recommend trying first or to look at Iskur XL - seat on this model is narrow, it forces you to sit up straight.
I picked up the razer iskur for £270 and gotta say it's a fantastic chair. I'm also only 5.2ft and fit absolutely fine in this chair, if you have shorter legs and a smaller frame you can sit cross legged :)
I own the 2020 charcoal titan and was expecting alot more comfort for its price. Its like sitting on a chair made of plywood. I even removed the arm rests because they didn't go low enough for me. I'm above the height requirement for the titan so there's really no excuse for its lack of comfort. The lumbar support looks better on the 2022 model but I believe the padding material is the main issue. It's too stiff.
if it wasn't for the dynamic lumbar , i woulda bought a house of Targaryen secret labs chair lol.. it was sold hard to choose but i want went the iskur and love it
I was going to go for a secret lab but wanted to try thing was I couldn't the only two places to try are sheffield or London I'm the opposite direction of both and travelling for a chair is a bit ridiculous. My local store had a razer iskur tried it happy. Amazed you can't try secret labs before you buy.
"Unless you really have a back problem or really require a lumbar support... is not worth enough to be picked over secret labs" I mean... that's the whole point of the chair and the reason why I got it vs any other chair in the market. The chair forces you the sit in a proper position so you will be unlikely to develop back problems due to poor sitting positions. Guys it's no joke, if you spend so much time sit in bad positions your back will toss the bills in the future. I'm guilty of this, but after using this chair for a while now I tend to sit in the "proper" position due to my back getting used to it. I think is a fantastic chair, I got the gray fabric one so it blends with my setup. Can't go back to a crappy chair for sure.
I have both the Enki X and the Titan and the Titan cushioning is FAR more firm than the Enki! Sitting on the Titan is almost like sitting on wood! I can handle it, and my cheap gaming chairs always bottomed out in a few months so I actually was sitting on wood anyway! But the Enki seat is quite soft in comparison. It however is too short and doesn't support my thighs enough, IMO. The Enki X is really well made but it just isn't very comfortable. It doesn't have enough thigh support and if you put the back of the chair in an upright position you feel like you're being pushed off the chair. Also the pivot to rock back is back further than most chairs so it's not comfortable to rock back. I hope I don't have to send it back though, that's too much trouble and I hate to have to make a delivery guy pick up a 50 lb box again. I don't miss the 4D armrests or the pillow at all. In fact, I never really move the armrests of my Titan and hate the stupid pillow, too. The Titan is huge in comparison. In fact it's probably too big. Sitting back all the way my knees almost hit the front edge of the chair. I'm 5'11" maybe I should have went with an Omega. But I still like it. It's like sitting in a tank! LOL! The cloth fabric on the Titan has held up great over time, it seems brand new and it overall looks as new except one of the armrests has a big wrinkle in it.
You deserve so many more subscribers. Your production quality and content are amazing, I was honestly so surprised when I saw that the number was below 100K. Anyways, you earned my sub :) keep up the good work! You'll be big, I know it.
Also just a suggestion but I've seen many other RUclipsrs section their video's timeline and label each section and I love it. I think you should consider utilizing this feature for your videos.
My whole reason for getting a gaming chair was for the support, and I love my Iskur, but if I had waited just a little bit more I could have gotten the fabric version. The lumbar support is AWESOME. It is a year later from the video... and RAZER has more than just the Iskur, and the Iskur now has 3 finishes, 2 sizes, and an option to drop the Lumbar support. They also offer the XL edition which can handle up to nearly 400 pounds and a version for taller people. I suspect that once I land a new job I'll make my current chair the "visitor" chair and buy the fabric model for daily use.
I bought the Secret lab Titan about 1 year ago, I usually sitt up to 5h at least a day on this chair. The lumbard feature is a joke, doesn't support anything and over all the chair is way to firm. I have a lower back problem and also a tailbone problem, the secret lab chair just makes the problems worse.
@@nolashtheartist No, It is not... I got Iskur XL and my coccyx is in pain daily because cushion is too firm and it feels like a solid rock... avoid it!
do you find it comfy? ive never rly had a bucket racer shapped seat before and not sure if ill find it uncomfy as i tend to play wth my feet up but recently my backs abit stiff
@@Adrian890722 yes indeed, i can't actually compare it with another gaming chairs but quality of every single inch and comfort are fantastic. U'll have only 1 problem with it, the box is huge and heavy (30.3kg).
I did my homework for months and watched so many RUclips videos and I owned so many gaming chairs…. Get a Secretlab if you care about look, but if you care about your nerd neck, back pain, good posture AND still have a badass look chair THEN get the RAZOR!! also I think it looks better and more elegant aggressive style and it hugs you well and it feels like you’re sitting in a luxurious sport car. My back never felt such relief with RAZOR. SecretLab quality is cheaper you can tell from the fabric, less material, short back and shoulder edges, Razor is better in every way possible and price & quality proves it. ALSO Razor offers XL version now and it will fit Shaquille O’Neil with ease.
A few days ago I sat on the Razer Iskur, among many other 'office' and 'gaming' chairs at a popular retailer. I tried many for range of movement, adjustability, comfort, build quality and all that stuff and came back to the Razer Iskur time and time again. The store would only sell me the discounted "perfect but unboxed" one if I bought a warranty from them (not cheap!). I walked away and bought one online for $399. Can't wait for it to arrive!!
@@sittkukk8278 Sitting on it now! Yes, I do like it and my back is much better for it too. Thanks for asking. The Razer Iskur is definitely the right choice for me.
i loved my iskur i actually love the black and green color and the ergonoics cause i want to situp straight, more for reading and working than for gaming but ok
do you find it comfy? ive never rly had a bucket racer shapped seat before and not sure if ill find it uncomfy as i tend to play wth my feet up but recently my backs abit stiff
@@Adrian890722 i gotta tell you it is not a soft chair, some of my family members find it a hard surface, but i like that is robust, and it does not lean to the sides, since i use it for coding, but i have fallen asleep on the chair when i recline the seat back and raise my feet
Love the design of the razer one but I'll still take the titan for that grey fabric material. If razer would have done a mercury white/grey fabric one it would have been a 100% buy from me.
Thank you for this review! I'm struggling with sizing, and am leaning towards secretlab. I'm 5'2" and weigh 145 lbs. I prefer to use the pillow near my neck. Also, I'll be sitting in it all day (desk job). Would you recommend this chair for me? How can I measure the arm rests? Sometimes they are too high making my shoulders scrunch up.
That's tough, but if you want to go with this style of chair I'd say choose the Omega. The arm rests are really adjustable, "4D adjustable." Its also the smallest of the bunch which should fit your height better. SecretLab's website has exact measurements of the chairs if you do some looking around. Something that might work better for someone spending a lot of time at a desk could be a ergonomic office chair, might I recommend a Herman Miller (used around $400, new around $1200).
@@JohnSmith-yy2uj Thx! I ended up getting the Omega. I got it weeks earlier than the site suggested, and I LOVE it. It fits perfect and keeps my posture straight. I'm so happy with it and my husband is jealous.
Its a firm seat,but pretty comfy.i'm 1m77 and 73 kg.fits me as a glove. i got it so id be able to walk after a long gaming session.so i didnt expect a plush sofa.but if im going to watch a movie,i ll be in my sofa rather than be in the chair.its perfect as long im occupied if that makes sense.
I bought the Joker Omega, I prefer the shape of the base than the Titan, it hasn’t arrived yet, it’s now 6 days late haha. I never seen the Razor before, it’s a beautiful looking chair.
@CALEB NG RAE YANG HCI smoother and softer is because is thinning. Peel warranty is only 3 years, not 5. And when they say warranty, it does not the additional service fee and the hassle for them to replace yr chair. Good luck in a few years time
@CALEB NG RAE YANG HCI cause i owned a SL chair for 1.5 year and it peeled like shit. The chair is shredding leather bits and it looks disgusting. Aside from gaming chair, there are many other ergonomic chair that are comfortable than SecretLab. And to clarify, I understand the chair is comfortable for many buyers. What I am criticizing its is quality and the leather they are using. I am not sure why you sound personal, maybe you are working for SL, but I am just sharing my experience. And when someone ask me if they should buy, of course i will comment and not recommend it.
I just got the Iskur, the lumbar is on point! And you may not have back problems now young buck but you will, oh you will. The Razer comes in all black now as well. The Titan chairs are too flat looking.
@@baboom007 Wow, I got ripped the eff off lol Fuck me, yes I do still like it though. I'm a big dude and I wish it was a little wider. Big muscles not big overweight just to clarify.
@@k1r1n07 There was no XL version when I ordered mine and they came out with the fabric material a month after I got mine. I'm a little bent about both of those as I would have ordered the XL in cloth. I might see if I can sell it and get the other one. I don't mind paying good money for a great chair, I sat in crappy ones at work for decades, have bad back issues and now work at home so it's worth it.
I’ve had the titan joker edition since 2021, honestly thinking of swapping to razer. I’m not sure why the hype on these chairs, they’re hard asf and 4 years I’m still expecting a “break in” period to finish so the comfort starts. I game for HOURS daily weekly monthly yearly, this was kind of a let down for the 700$ SL asked for. Durable asf, it still looks brand new, just is NOT comfortable in any way shape or form for long periods of use.
I’ll also say blatantly. Razer makes things just to say we can do that too, and most times is junk bc it’s a 1 and done and never spend money for R&D to improve on it, hence why they’re all peripherals and fans and that’s it, I hope they continue the chair line improvements but I’ve bought backpacks for 120$ from Razer that’s fallen apart like a 13$ Walmart bag in just a few weeks too. Weary of Razer but I do like their mice & keyboards lol
The iskur isn’t bad for short sessions, but for long play periods, it’s almost intolerable to set on with how firm it is. At this price you shouldn’t need to consider buying a cushion.
If you put the Razer chair to the maximum height and sit on it, is it the same height as the Omega at maximum as well or do you sit higher in one of them?
Does the back rest have the tiniest bit of give when you sit back into it, or lean forward? not sure if its supposed to do it, or mine is broken? would love someone else to check theirs! Thanks
There's a million cheap average gaming chairs but I'm glad SecretLab puts out a more premium product. I would like to see an even more premium gaming chair put out by someone maybe costing $600 or more.
@@11BCampbell11 I looked at the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs but I don't like office chairs compared to gaming chairs. I don't know what it is but gaming chairs just seem to envelope you and are more comfortable for lounging and game playing. Office chairs are good for sitting and typing but they don't make you feel comfortable, IMO. One thing I hate is that the back reclines separately from the seat. That just seems weird and uncomfortable/insecure to me for some reason. I was thinking of the HM Embody or Aeron. I actually bought a Aeron clone and didn't like it at all. I really don't like the mesh. The Embody looks nice but it's like $1800 when my SecretLab Titan is a much better chair for me. Thanks for the suggestion!
I have the Joker omega chair I love it it's comfortable and great for my back,I love it and I have just bought the omega batman 2020 chair so it matches my secret labs batman Magnus desk
I bought the Razer Iskur and was disappointed, if your like me and have larger thighs the chair is just so narrow it actually hurts the sides of my legs when sitting in it. Now my 15 year old loves that this was not a good fit as he is the proud owner and it fits him like a champ!
@@Brainbean im 5'6 and 190lbs and wondering if the titan is for me because I like to sit cross legged but maybe the omega recommends it for my height? So whitch should I get?
@@freddyhernandez6739 sitting cross legged in an omega isn’t going to be great. I would look at something else probably. Titans seat will work fine for that but it’s gunna be a bigger chair.
Most people even looking for a "gaming" chair are well, gamers. Who are prone to back issues. You say most people won't use it and haste over that feature. however that's biggest selling point, moreover a chair actually built for people with these issues and not just another generic bucket seat racer
@@charlesmiv3842 that actually isn't really the case, I'm pretty sure the Titan is only like 4cm taller than the omega, and people under 5'10" have tried the titan and liked it more for its spaciousness
@@JohnSmith-yy2uj Hm, I've spoken to people under 5'10" that say it's uncomfortable because it's just too big. Especially how far the bottom part of the seat extends.
will the secretlabs omega still be an appropriate size for a 6" 175 lb person? the website kept suggesting the titan, but id rather have a more "supportedd" or "snug" feel"
You should review the new DX racer Master series. I was very surprised I'm a long time DX racer customer I have many full grain leather drift series which have been my personal standard just tried out the master since the drift is not available anymore and I was very surprised many improvements over the last few generations
Bro, I need help. Its Prime day and the Iskur is on sale for $349. Omega is $439 fabric. Do I cop the Iskur? My Killabee chair is ass. NOW IS THE TIME. HALP.
i got the isskur especially because of the lumbar support i am sitting more then 10 hours a day and i am not having any back problems anymore also the looks man also also its razers SECOND chair ;)
@@baboom007 i like it and for me it is the only cheap alternative to a 1600$ herman miller chair... i had a broken middlepart after a few month but got a new chair from amazon support on razer side was super nice aswell... so i'd still recommend it if you cannot afford herman miller if you can go for the herman miller since it has more features
Still going for secretlab even though I am a razer fanboi for everything else razer mice, headsets, bungees, mousemats, wrist rests, microphones and more lol.
@@husamaljarba5913 my experience is pretty damn great actually. Its sturdy I feel like I can do what I want without it just snapping like a twig.the material is great for the non sweat. I'm 6'3 289 nd it supports me perfectly. For your height it may do great also. Probably feel even better tbh lol
So I have upper back problems (I have a hunch back 😂) so would the iskur be better than the secret labs for me? I do like the comfort I moving around and not being inclosed I’m but I’m tryna find something to help support
Hi; great video thank you; quick question; i am 6ft and 159 lbs which one would be better for me (for lumbar support or in general) the OMEGA or TITAN? Thank you
I'm curious about height. I'm 5"4ish and know I'm technically too short for the iskur but they look like it and the omega are the same size. I've heard the omega isn't great for shorter ppl.
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i dont agree that a lot of people wont use that lumbar system on the razer, i think that is one of the biggest selling features and that why i got one ordered :D
Seemed biased
That's why I want it
It's the main reason I got mine, also the moveable arm rests they have a lot of articulation points.
Was it worth buying?
@@user-ef3pf9ko4h 100 percent, the quality is damn good. looks and feels like day one still and im a big dude.
if he reviewed my “gaming chair” he’d cry.
my ass hurts so bad, please help.
Just buy Ikea Flisat it's good for your ass
@@naras-95 the child’s wooden chair? gotcha 😀👍
@@mommygaby4642 yesss!
Same bro
Don't use your ass for hurting activities
not really sure why you brushed off the razer's clearly superior lumbar support by saying "most likely people won't take advantage of it". I mean, just by sitting in the chair you're taking advantage of it. If you meant people won't adjust it at all, I don't think that's true. It's really the reason I'm considering the razer iskur. But this video has kind of swayed my opinion a bit making me reconsider secretlab. And no offense but it's really hard to trust you when you're sponsored by secretlab, so I really don't know what to do.
the point is...the better way to know how is better for you, is sitting in both chairs, i can find a few places here in japan to test the razer iskur, but i never have seen a unique secret lab to test! they just want to make you buy a product that u cant sit to feel!
You make a very great point! Lets take the biggest feature of the razer and say “But most people wont be using it anyway, especially if you dont have back problems.” 😑 If its functional, for sure ill be using it!
Yup someone definitely favors Secret Labs. That’s cool because it’s what he likes.
These comments are better than dislike button. Thank you!
I've owned the iskur for nearly 14 months, it's junk period. Piston failed, welds are inferior and break. This is an honest assessment from a razer customer since the tarantula keyboard some 20 years now. But after razer support hassled me about a kown issue for over 2 weeks, they lost my support for that company
As a Singaporean, I'm really proud that both companies have made such great gaming chairs for everyone to enjoy :)
Walaoeh
Another Singaporean ah?
So good!
@@ObtainingEverything ya bro i was considering between this 2 but probably gna go w secretlab ah
Hey I’m also a Singaporean
Love the honesty regarding your sponsorship with Secretlab! Appreciated
Disregard his last comment on SL easily being best buy and you a real decent review😉
Razer iskur has the better back support while secretlap has a much cleaner design and softweave.
i thought you wrote ‘software’ and I was so confused
@@tommyvercetti6 lmao same
Never heard of secret lab until my interest in gaming chairs started. Holy moly there is so many colorways to choose from.
Razer chair better
@@lendleasereit6797 but I can flex secret labs chair can you?
@@ScuffedHades I got back support ... do u? Or it's merely a vertical rise up for u? Hehe
@@lendleasereit6797 nah it's a support
@@lendleasereit6797 I can video u if u want to see it I got 3 of em a rust one a cloth one and a batman one cause why not
For anyone that comes across this video like I did. The Razer is $379 on Amazon while the Secretlab chairs are still going for $500-$529. So at these prices points which one would be better? If you’re on a budget go for the Razer. If you have money to spend and want to customize the look of your chair go for the Secretlab.
They are 50% off right now, and I was totally looking at the House of Dragon colorway from Secretlab. BUT the Razer Iskur at $299 was a quick buy for me.
@@AlanteFuller Where does it on sale for $299?
you are saying that only difference is in customization options ???
@@HieuLe-bb1gp it’s on Amazon on sale for 200$ right now
@@lucasprecision2578 That is the Razer Iskur X not Fabric
For me, the most important thing is support and squishy pillows aren't good for that so I would go with the razer option
I can recommend
I've been having back issues and the Razer Iskur has been a god send. If your priority is a chair that will help you improve posture and relieve back pain I'd definitely recommend it. If you're looking for pure comfort, I think there are better options.
Thanks for your comment. After working 2 yrs at home sitting in a wrong chair, my whole back (especially my lower) is suddenly killing me. I will give it a try.
@@johnroady9495 Got the Iskur yesterday, my lower back was also hurting me lately. I defientely feel that Iskur helps a lot, really recommend it, it supports the back perfectly!
got the same chair, if you like to lean forward in your chair or you don't like leaning back into it the lumbar support is awesome cause you can adjust it to be supporting your lower back even if you are leaning forward or over the keyboard. The arms also have like 5 points of movement which are great; up and down, in or out, swivel, forward or back, inwards or outwards. Its even great for relaxing and watching movies. One thing though if you fart it makes it sound 3x as loud or like you shat yourself.
Got same chair in fabric few days ago. I'm 5'7 tall and skinny, it fits me perfect, however neck pillow doesn't fit me properly, took it off. Lumbar support is really great, I'm not a gamer at all, but I'm sitting at the computer for 8 hours every day, it's just a great ergonomic chair. But if you are not skinny, I recommend trying first or to look at Iskur XL - seat on this model is narrow, it forces you to sit up straight.
Cant wait for my razer to come in! I have major lower back issues and this is something that I have been waiting for
Let me know what you think of it. Been having the same problem.
@@AustinDrew23 Drew you need this chair man! I instantly felt the lumbar support and games for about 5 hours and no pain at all!
If you want more information on my experience hmu anytime bud!
@@sopot44 appreciate it!!
@@sopot44 Hey Chris, I was wondering if you got the chair. If so, how is your experience with it so far??
Excellent comparison video! Your channel is severely underrated.
It's a clear win even without watching the video, he himself is already sitting on a secret lab chair when he did the intro
I picked up the razer iskur for £270 and gotta say it's a fantastic chair. I'm also only 5.2ft and fit absolutely fine in this chair, if you have shorter legs and a smaller frame you can sit cross legged :)
I own the 2020 charcoal titan and was expecting alot more comfort for its price. Its like sitting on a chair made of plywood. I even removed the arm rests because they didn't go low enough for me. I'm above the height requirement for the titan so there's really no excuse for its lack of comfort. The lumbar support looks better on the 2022 model but I believe the padding material is the main issue. It's too stiff.
Half a year into my softweave Secretlabs Titan, I love it and its holding up well
if it wasn't for the dynamic lumbar , i woulda bought a house of Targaryen secret labs chair lol.. it was sold hard to choose but i want went the iskur and love it
@@baboom007 yea
I was going to go for a secret lab but wanted to try thing was I couldn't the only two places to try are sheffield or London I'm the opposite direction of both and travelling for a chair is a bit ridiculous. My local store had a razer iskur tried it happy. Amazed you can't try secret labs before you buy.
I like the legs on the Secretlabs more because since they are flat you can rest your heel on them and not have it slip off
"Unless you really have a back problem or really require a lumbar support... is not worth enough to be picked over secret labs" I mean... that's the whole point of the chair and the reason why I got it vs any other chair in the market. The chair forces you the sit in a proper position so you will be unlikely to develop back problems due to poor sitting positions. Guys it's no joke, if you spend so much time sit in bad positions your back will toss the bills in the future. I'm guilty of this, but after using this chair for a while now I tend to sit in the "proper" position due to my back getting used to it. I think is a fantastic chair, I got the gray fabric one so it blends with my setup. Can't go back to a crappy chair for sure.
I have both the Enki X and the Titan and the Titan cushioning is FAR more firm than the Enki! Sitting on the Titan is almost like sitting on wood! I can handle it, and my cheap gaming chairs always bottomed out in a few months so I actually was sitting on wood anyway! But the Enki seat is quite soft in comparison. It however is too short and doesn't support my thighs enough, IMO. The Enki X is really well made but it just isn't very comfortable. It doesn't have enough thigh support and if you put the back of the chair in an upright position you feel like you're being pushed off the chair. Also the pivot to rock back is back further than most chairs so it's not comfortable to rock back. I hope I don't have to send it back though, that's too much trouble and I hate to have to make a delivery guy pick up a 50 lb box again. I don't miss the 4D armrests or the pillow at all. In fact, I never really move the armrests of my Titan and hate the stupid pillow, too.
The Titan is huge in comparison. In fact it's probably too big. Sitting back all the way my knees almost hit the front edge of the chair. I'm 5'11" maybe I should have went with an Omega. But I still like it. It's like sitting in a tank! LOL! The cloth fabric on the Titan has held up great over time, it seems brand new and it overall looks as new except one of the armrests has a big wrinkle in it.
I will definitely buy Razer Iskur due to that practical lumbar support.
I love this iskur got the all black version the other day, love the lumbar support and pillow.
You deserve so many more subscribers. Your production quality and content are amazing, I was honestly so surprised when I saw that the number was below 100K. Anyways, you earned my sub :) keep up the good work! You'll be big, I know it.
Also just a suggestion but I've seen many other RUclipsrs section their video's timeline and label each section and I love it. I think you should consider utilizing this feature for your videos.
@@PatrickChiangHai ^
My whole reason for getting a gaming chair was for the support, and I love my Iskur, but if I had waited just a little bit more I could have gotten the fabric version. The lumbar support is AWESOME. It is a year later from the video... and RAZER has more than just the Iskur, and the Iskur now has 3 finishes, 2 sizes, and an option to drop the Lumbar support. They also offer the XL edition which can handle up to nearly 400 pounds and a version for taller people. I suspect that once I land a new job I'll make my current chair the "visitor" chair and buy the fabric model for daily use.
agree. fabric or real leather. The fake stuff don't last.
£200 for the iskur x
@@hogrideeeeer were the heck are you sitting this price?
and what is the razdr is now for $370? would it be a better purchase???
Being dead ass when i first saw the razor chair i thought it has a Wheel in the middle of the chair
The whole “can’t sit cross cross” on the iskur and the omega kinda made my final decision. 2022 titan it is!
I bought the Secret lab Titan about 1 year ago, I usually sitt up to 5h at least a day on this chair. The lumbard feature is a joke, doesn't support anything and over all the chair is way to firm. I have a lower back problem and also a tailbone problem, the secret lab chair just makes the problems worse.
I sold my secretlab due to the firmness. I wonder if razer is better
@@nolashtheartist let me know if you buy one, been thinking of giving mine away. My chair squeaks like crazy, it sounds like it's broken 🤣
@@sgt4slaughter nah I quickly decided I won’t as I heard it has same issues as secretlab, expensive chairs just aren’t worth it
@@nolashtheartist oh no, what the hell 🤦🏻♂️. Don't know what chair to get then, there isn't that many with fabric, most of them is fake leather 😭
@@nolashtheartist No, It is not... I got Iskur XL and my coccyx is in pain daily because cushion is too firm and it feels like a solid rock... avoid it!
Damn, you could buy an entire gaming rig with that kind of money. Good video as always.
Brokeboi setup goals
From five years ago, maybe.
Nah You need at least 1k + you not running Assasins creed Valhalla and stream with a 300-400 gaming rig
@@frostxlegendzx5798 why would anyone want to play a shit game that's badly optimised?
Please use bright color background when reviewing dark color product
Could be helpful to cover the adjustment options on the chairs
Using Razer Iskur for 4 hours and my back (that is forged in 1 year of playing WOT at IKEA Chair) is much apprectiated.
do you find it comfy? ive never rly had a bucket racer shapped seat before and not sure if ill find it uncomfy as i tend to play wth my feet up but recently my backs abit stiff
@@Adrian890722 yes indeed, i can't actually compare it with another gaming chairs but quality of every single inch and comfort are fantastic. U'll have only 1 problem with it, the box is huge and heavy (30.3kg).
@@Liandri001 thanks for reply bro, i took your opinions on board and purchased it off amazon today, comes later next week! will keep you posted =)
@@Adrian890722 just dont forget that u've a bed as well, cuz for first time i fell asleep in it😃
Do you still like Iskur? I want to buy one cause it's 320$ now. But i need a good and confortable chair couse my back is messed up.
Razer Iskur will be perfect for my needs. My back pain will be soothed with That chair.
I did my homework for months and watched so many RUclips videos and I owned so many gaming chairs…. Get a Secretlab if you care about look, but if you care about your nerd neck, back pain, good posture AND still have a badass look chair THEN get the RAZOR!! also I think it looks better and more elegant aggressive style and it hugs you well and it feels like you’re sitting in a luxurious sport car. My back never felt such relief with RAZOR. SecretLab quality is cheaper you can tell from the fabric, less material, short back and shoulder edges, Razor is better in every way possible and price & quality proves it. ALSO Razor offers XL version now and it will fit Shaquille O’Neil with ease.
A few days ago I sat on the Razer Iskur, among many other 'office' and 'gaming' chairs at a popular retailer. I tried many for range of movement, adjustability, comfort, build quality and all that stuff and came back to the Razer Iskur time and time again. The store would only sell me the discounted "perfect but unboxed" one if I bought a warranty from them (not cheap!). I walked away and bought one online for $399. Can't wait for it to arrive!!
How ya liking it? Kept it?
@@sittkukk8278 Sitting on it now! Yes, I do like it and my back is much better for it too. Thanks for asking. The Razer Iskur is definitely the right choice for me.
@@PicRic Good to hear imma give it a go as well :D
@@sittkukk8278 Great! I hope you find the chair that makes you feel supported and comfortable.
needed to hear that. Thanks :)
nice chairs, do you sit on them
I’m gonna get a secret lab soon. I’ve been sitting on a folding chair for the last year I can’t wait to see the difference
I litteraly subscribed because you are wearing a Nothing More shirt haha. Love it
I see you with the chair reviews now , damn you channel have more feel than I thought lol.
Just preordered mine can’t wait
i loved my iskur i actually love the black and green color and the ergonoics cause i want to situp straight, more for reading and working than for gaming but ok
do you find it comfy? ive never rly had a bucket racer shapped seat before and not sure if ill find it uncomfy as i tend to play wth my feet up but recently my backs abit stiff
@@Adrian890722 i gotta tell you it is not a soft chair, some of my family members find it a hard surface, but i like that is robust, and it does not lean to the sides, since i use it for coding, but i have fallen asleep on the chair when i recline the seat back and raise my feet
@@Andy-pr5be lol, yea I think slighlty hard is better than soft! i just ordered mines on amazon today so hopefully its good! will let u know.
@@Adrian890722 i wish u luck, please do
And the Secret Labs Titan XL Evo 2022 is THE best chair in the market. Can't wait for mine to arrive.
Love the design of the razer one but I'll still take the titan for that grey fabric material. If razer would have done a mercury white/grey fabric one it would have been a 100% buy from me.
It exists now
@@HeartbrokenHeartshooter LoL
the titan comfort is better tho
What kind of panel is the white one behind your desk? You have link?
Great and candid video it helped !
I just bought my razer on sale for 250 gets here in 2 days pretty excited needed a new chair bad!
I just ordered a Secret Lab Titan XL to replace my Vertagear PL6000 and am stoked about it.
Was the Vertagear PL6000 good?
Thank you for this review! I'm struggling with sizing, and am leaning towards secretlab. I'm 5'2" and weigh 145 lbs. I prefer to use the pillow near my neck. Also, I'll be sitting in it all day (desk job). Would you recommend this chair for me? How can I measure the arm rests? Sometimes they are too high making my shoulders scrunch up.
That's tough, but if you want to go with this style of chair I'd say choose the Omega. The arm rests are really adjustable, "4D adjustable." Its also the smallest of the bunch which should fit your height better. SecretLab's website has exact measurements of the chairs if you do some looking around. Something that might work better for someone spending a lot of time at a desk could be a ergonomic office chair, might I recommend a Herman Miller (used around $400, new around $1200).
@@JohnSmith-yy2uj Thx! I ended up getting the Omega. I got it weeks earlier than the site suggested, and I LOVE it. It fits perfect and keeps my posture straight. I'm so happy with it and my husband is jealous.
@@thehoys9412 that's great to hear, I'm about to order the Titan for myself
the razors arm rests are very customizable in positions and height
thanks for the review. great quality and helped me decide on a 2022.
Love my razer tho.the ergonomical support is second to none,as is the level of detail and quality.
Is the comfort good?
Its a firm seat,but pretty comfy.i'm 1m77 and 73 kg.fits me as a glove. i got it so id be able to walk after a long gaming session.so i didnt expect a plush sofa.but if im going to watch a movie,i ll be in my sofa rather than be in the chair.its perfect as long im occupied if that makes sense.
@@EmpireZzzz look up the omen citadel chair if you happen to be bigger/taller or want more a comfortable option
I am waiting for my iskur, because I have really big problems with my back.
How is your razer iskur so far?
@@kaiser0923 It’s pretty nice. I chose it because there weren’t any other models in my country.
Do you still like Iskur? I want to buy one cause it's 320$ now. But i need a good and confortable chair couse my back is messed up.
I bought the Joker Omega, I prefer the shape of the base than the Titan, it hasn’t arrived yet, it’s now 6 days late haha.
I never seen the Razor before, it’s a beautiful looking chair.
Any chance to compare with the previous Razer's chair collaborate with DXracer? Which is better? Expensive better or which
As someone who has reviewed chairs, what's your recommendation for someone looking for a chair that will be comfortable for gaming, but on a budget?
Don’t go for SecretLab leather. The pu leather is low quality. Their profit margin is damn high, tats why can do ads everywhere
@CALEB NG RAE YANG HCI smoother and softer is because is thinning. Peel warranty is only 3 years, not 5. And when they say warranty, it does not the additional service fee and the hassle for them to replace yr chair. Good luck in a few years time
@CALEB NG RAE YANG HCI cause i owned a SL chair for 1.5 year and it peeled like shit. The chair is shredding leather bits and it looks disgusting. Aside from gaming chair, there are many other ergonomic chair that are comfortable than SecretLab. And to clarify, I understand the chair is comfortable for many buyers. What I am criticizing its is quality and the leather they are using. I am not sure why you sound personal, maybe you are working for SL, but I am just sharing my experience. And when someone ask me if they should buy, of course i will comment and not recommend it.
Before these gaming chairs there was the Drx racer . That was the chair that every RUclipsr had so . Since it’s so old it’s not 300$ anymore it’s 150$
can you make a new video about your setup? please :)
At the same price which would you buy?
I just got the Iskur, the lumbar is on point! And you may not have back problems now young buck but you will, oh you will. The Razer comes in all black now as well. The Titan chairs are too flat looking.
@@baboom007 Wow, I got ripped the eff off lol Fuck me, yes I do still like it though. I'm a big dude and I wish it was a little wider. Big muscles not big overweight just to clarify.
@@cruisey9857 do you get the XL version? Now Iskur also has fabric type, but more $$$
@@k1r1n07 There was no XL version when I ordered mine and they came out with the fabric material a month after I got mine. I'm a little bent about both of those as I would have ordered the XL in cloth. I might see if I can sell it and get the other one. I don't mind paying good money for a great chair, I sat in crappy ones at work for decades, have bad back issues and now work at home so it's worth it.
Havent seen the cyberpunk one in years lol
When did they last release it?
I’m about 5’ 8” and around 315 lbs, so which chair would you recommend for me for gaming on a laptop (Alienware X17) at an affordable Amazon desk?
Man I am so in love with the Titan.....
I’ve had the titan joker edition since 2021, honestly thinking of swapping to razer. I’m not sure why the hype on these chairs, they’re hard asf and 4 years I’m still expecting a “break in” period to finish so the comfort starts. I game for HOURS daily weekly monthly yearly, this was kind of a let down for the 700$ SL asked for. Durable asf, it still looks brand new, just is NOT comfortable in any way shape or form for long periods of use.
I’ll also say blatantly. Razer makes things just to say we can do that too, and most times is junk bc it’s a 1 and done and never spend money for R&D to improve on it, hence why they’re all peripherals and fans and that’s it, I hope they continue the chair line improvements but I’ve bought backpacks for 120$ from Razer that’s fallen apart like a 13$ Walmart bag in just a few weeks too. Weary of Razer but I do like their mice & keyboards lol
Very curious if you would recommend the softweave fabric or pleather
The iskur isn’t bad for short sessions, but for long play periods, it’s almost intolerable to set on with how firm it is. At this price you shouldn’t need to consider buying a cushion.
I have both the SL Omega and Razer’s
SL is definitely better imo
why is Omega better? I can buy Razer with 330$ and i don;t know what to do
@@baboom007 Yo where can you get the Razer one with 330$?
Hi guys, im thinking of buying the omega but im 182 cm, dont know if 2 cm makes a big difference so i want to know you guys opinions! thanks
What's that background thing called behind you??
If you put the Razer chair to the maximum height and sit on it, is it the same height as the Omega at maximum as well or do you sit higher in one of them?
This this this!!!
@@spambunny123 i asked this on other videos and one guy told me it is about 55-57 cm's high, it should be fine
Does the back rest have the tiniest bit of give when you sit back into it, or lean forward? not sure if its supposed to do it, or mine is broken? would love someone else to check theirs! Thanks
Can you give an update on whether it has peeled or anything?
There's a million cheap average gaming chairs but I'm glad SecretLab puts out a more premium product. I would like to see an even more premium gaming chair put out by someone maybe costing $600 or more.
herman miller
@@11BCampbell11 I looked at the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs but I don't like office chairs compared to gaming chairs. I don't know what it is but gaming chairs just seem to envelope you and are more comfortable for lounging and game playing. Office chairs are good for sitting and typing but they don't make you feel comfortable, IMO. One thing I hate is that the back reclines separately from the seat. That just seems weird and uncomfortable/insecure to me for some reason. I was thinking of the HM Embody or Aeron. I actually bought a Aeron clone and didn't like it at all. I really don't like the mesh. The Embody looks nice but it's like $1800 when my SecretLab Titan is a much better chair for me. Thanks for the suggestion!
I have the Joker omega chair I love it it's comfortable and great for my back,I love it and I have just bought the omega batman 2020 chair so it matches my secret labs batman Magnus desk
is it still stand in 2022?
The iskur xl is on sale $399.00.
I bought the Razer Iskur and was disappointed, if your like me and have larger thighs the chair is just so narrow it actually hurts the sides of my legs when sitting in it. Now my 15 year old loves that this was not a good fit as he is the proud owner and it fits him like a champ!
PS got the Omega today and I love it!
@@jollyrogers9247 how is it? mines coming in soon...
Link to your keyboard please?
i hVE Back probelms issue do u reccomend the razer chair?
would the secret lab omega fit someone who’s 5’1, 103lbs? i’m so in love with it
Yeah I think so. My son uses one and he’s a little under 5’.
@@Brainbean okay epic! thank u (:
@@Brainbean im 5'6 and 190lbs and wondering if the titan is for me because I like to sit cross legged but maybe the omega recommends it for my height? So whitch should I get?
@@freddyhernandez6739 sitting cross legged in an omega isn’t going to be great. I would look at something else probably. Titans seat will work fine for that but it’s gunna be a bigger chair.
@@Brainbean any chair you could recommend that right for me? :D thanks
I’m 5’3 which one should i buy?
I will always go Razer.
Most people even looking for a "gaming" chair are well, gamers. Who are prone to back issues. You say most people won't use it and haste over that feature. however that's biggest selling point, moreover a chair actually built for people with these issues and not just another generic bucket seat racer
so ikur chair is good for back issues?
nice review :) im 5´7 what do u think is better the titan one or the omega? I dont know which one is the better one. Hope u can help me. Thx
Omega, obviously. If you’re 5’10 or under, the omega is optimal
@@charlesmiv3842 that actually isn't really the case, I'm pretty sure the Titan is only like 4cm taller than the omega, and people under 5'10" have tried the titan and liked it more for its spaciousness
@@JohnSmith-yy2uj Hm, I've spoken to people under 5'10" that say it's uncomfortable because it's just too big. Especially how far the bottom part of the seat extends.
will the secretlabs omega still be an appropriate size for a 6" 175 lb person? the website kept suggesting the titan, but id rather have a more "supportedd" or "snug" feel"
Totally
If you are not into looks go buy ergonomic chair, and expensive chairs like Steelcase, Haworth and Herman Miller DO does the job
You should review the new DX racer Master series. I was very surprised I'm a long time DX racer customer I have many full grain leather drift series which have been my personal standard just tried out the master since the drift is not available anymore and I was very surprised many improvements over the last few generations
Nah it’s too cheap
What is your Keyboard of the minutes 4:26?
Looks like the Massdrop ALT
Bro, I need help. Its Prime day and the Iskur is on sale for $349. Omega is $439 fabric. Do I cop the Iskur? My Killabee chair is ass. NOW IS THE TIME. HALP.
Would you still buy a secret lab hands down? or def cop this for that price?
which one do you like better? the titan or omega
I like the titan, it’s a bit more of a relaxed fit where as the Omega is a slimmer more fitted feel.
I'd say a office chair after owning one of these. Lol like I can't say it's that much better
i got the isskur
especially because of the lumbar support
i am sitting more then 10 hours a day
and i am not having any back problems anymore
also the looks man
also also its razers SECOND chair ;)
How is Iskur so far? I want to buy one cause it's 320$ now. But i need a good and confortable chair couse my back is messed up.
@@baboom007 i like it and for me it is the only cheap alternative to a 1600$ herman miller chair...
i had a broken middlepart after a few month but got a new chair from amazon support on razer side was super nice aswell...
so i'd still recommend it if you cannot afford herman miller
if you can
go for the herman miller since it has more features
Is the iskur x good? Would be for a teen boy.
The iskur has a black option now
Still going for secretlab even though I am a razer fanboi for everything else razer mice, headsets, bungees, mousemats, wrist rests, microphones and more lol.
Does the razer get hot after a while of sitting at the legs / thighs area? Or still useable?
I just got it today nd my ass actually didnt sweat
@@tonybennett2909 how's your experience with the chair so far?
I'm 5'7" (170 cm) 198 pound do you think is it suitable to me? thank you
@@husamaljarba5913 my experience is pretty damn great actually. Its sturdy I feel like I can do what I want without it just snapping like a twig.the material is great for the non sweat. I'm 6'3 289 nd it supports me perfectly. For your height it may do great also. Probably feel even better tbh lol
So I have upper back problems (I have a hunch back 😂) so would the iskur be better than the secret labs for me? I do like the comfort I moving around and not being inclosed I’m but I’m tryna find something to help support
What did you go?
Hi; great video thank you; quick question; i am 6ft and 159 lbs which one would be better for me (for lumbar support or in general) the OMEGA or TITAN? Thank you
Omega would be a better fit
@@Brainbean Ok great. Thank you so much for getting back to me and thank you for the video.
Get the Titan your to tall for the omega trust me on this I’m 5’11 and height wise the Titan is the perfect one
@@luisroman2144 Roger that. Thank you
I'm curious about height. I'm 5"4ish and know I'm technically too short for the iskur but they look like it and the omega are the same size. I've heard the omega isn't great for shorter ppl.
Omega is designed for shorter
Are any of the arm rest padded
Prefer the Razer with this ajustable limbar
I just bought the iskur chair looks bad ass let u know how I like it