I had a question, why didn't Pettigrew destroy the triwizard cup when he knew that it's the way through which harry could escape. If he did that harry would be already dead and voldemort would be the darkest wizard of the whole time. PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION, HARRY POTTER THEORY 🙏🙏
@@dakshkumarbhagat I think pettigrew or Voldemort were overconfident about the fact that Harry will die and didn’t thought that he can escape using the triwizard cup when the duel started between Harry and Voldemort pettigrew was busy focusing on his master then rather thinking about the triwizard cup
@@everwildart3563 And Voldy would favor Nagini more and be really pissed if Bella tried to hurt her if only because of the horcrux or because he cared as much as he is able or a combination of both. This got even more interesting.
@@rubenmanukyan9337 except Hedwig is not a real person, she's an owl. Nagini is once a person, which is why I said that if she turned back to her beautiful human self, Bellatrix might get jealous (she is possessive after all). Also, Ginny is not a psychopath. Bellatrix is insane so her logic made no sense obviously.
I like to think that he cared about her but never realized because he didn't know what love was, he hadn't experienced it before so he just felt something strange but his arrogance made him think that his emotionally driven actions towards Nagini was simply his will and that if it was a choice he made then it had to be a good one
@@rttnmlk123 old post but here's my two cents. after all the time that passed, nagini's human mind had atrophied so badly that she essentially had no will left and voldemort thought his soul fragment could overpower her remaining humanity with no effort. he was, after all, the ultimate control freak.
I think the only reason nagini turned evil was because once she turned into a snake permanently she was lonely and voldemort was the only one she could communicate with. If you remember in fbawtft she refused to join grindewald even when credence joined him
Jk Rowling: 'Everything would have changed if his mother survived and loved him'. I interpret that Voldemort would have learnt to love by learning/observing it from his mother (and by returning the gestures). His mother however died. He didn't learn from her what love is, nor do I imagine him experiencing it from anyone else (more so fear, respect). This, however, doesn't mean he'd be incapable of loving. He just wouldn't understand his feelings. Not entirely sure, but I think Voldemort ignores what he doesn't understand?
I wonder if instead of the good side of love, Tom would have used love as a way to control and manipulate people, like how some abusers would. A lot of abusive partners would use the excuse of "loving" someone as a reason for hurting them, by saying it's the other person's fault they had to behave a certain way. After all, he saw that his mother forced her love on his father via the love potion; that's already a dodgy way to know about love.
@@animefallenangel That's an excellent point. It would probably depend on when he found out about her manipulating his father using magic (and the amount of poverty he'd be growing up in could end up being an issue regarding how he'd see Tom Snr. considering how he was reasonably well off).
@@animefallenangel This quora user justifies why Voldemort most likely didn't know that his mum seduced his father with a love potion: www.quora.com/Did-Voldemort-realise-that-his-mother-had-given-his-father-a-love-potion To your comment, I'd add that only Bellatrix loved Voldemort. If he used love to abuse people, then only towards her.
@@denizkenger52 the process of making a horcrux can not possibly be a metaphor for ”making love”, how could it? Its transfering a part of the soul into an object after you killed a person. Voldemort did it with numerous inanimate objects and, unknowingly, with Harry. The same thing happened with Nagini, the theory of him having sexual intercourse with the snake is illogical and highly unlikely.
At this point I feel that we should be reminded that psychopaths are human beings just like us, so we have to be careful not to demonize mental illness. As a social worker I am aware of the severe forms that a mental disorder may shape into, but it is crucial for everyone involved with people who have mental problems to focus on the person and not their disorder! there 's always strength along with the difficulty and Yes Love Makes the World a better place!
Animals are easier for everyone to love.. they do not criticize, manipulate, correct, insult, isolate you... animals have the tendency to accept and love us for who we are. A trait we should learn from them!
8:18 Well, it shows that he had some miniscule amount of humanity. Also, I believe him loving Nagini is a hundred times more likely than him impregnating Bellatrix Lastrange.
@@luiscluzano2436 being a sociopath or psychopath makes you unable to feel empathy, not love. He wasn’t able to feel love as he was conceived under a love potion
@@Sageofpycymoor Being a sociopath and psychopath make you unable to feel emotions, or reduce the way you can feel them or make you unable de feel some emotion. Sociopath and phycopath are on a spectrum. Devoid of empathy exceept for dark empath. It's difficult to say that sociopath or psycopath can feel love or not. Even if you think you feel love, do you ? It's easy for a cluster B to think the will to possess and control, pride to be with and lust for someone to be love. If you never felt it in your life, you can mistake it for whatever mak you feel the buterfly. As you always read neurotical description of love. Neurodivergents and neurotipicals are fondamentaly different, but the first have to live with definition of the later philosophical / lingistic concept and perception. In a world not made for you, you can be confused easily. And in a world made for you, it's easy to assume everyone in your kind fondamentaly work the same as you, think the same as you. Which is not the case.
The theory makes sense as he did demonstrate that he was fond of her. She was his companion when he had no one and she stayed by his side through everything. She was probably the only one who simply loved him not for his power, but simply because in some way she could.
She loved him because he was the only one on planet earth who she could speak to. Because of her blood curse making her a snake, she only speaks parseltongue. No one can understand her, and she can't understand anyone else. She's been stuck alone, her whole life with no one to talk to, and no one to talk to her. Until Credence came along. It's suspected that Credence is actually a fucking GUANT. Meaning he can speak parseltongue. Nagini fell in love with him obviously. But after Credence, then what? She's alone again. With no one to talk to, and no one to speak to her. Except this time the loneliness is WORSE, because she now knows what it is to have love and communication between two people. She knows that feeling now, and yearns for it even more now that it's gone. She rots inside with that turmoil for years, thinking it'd be this way until she dies. All alone on a planet of 8 billion people. Until.... Until Tom Riddle came along. And for the very first time since Credence? She can speak to, and be spoken to. She's not all alone in the world, anymore. She doesn't want to lose that again, so she does anything and everything Tom Riddle tells her too. And I don't blame her. She knew if she was ever separated from Tom, she'd be the lone speaking Parseltongue again. Credence and Tom are the only two people in her existence that can understand her words, and can speak back in words she understands. I cannot imagine that feeling of isolation, and then the desperation it would cause at the thought of losing Tom. All this is based off the theory that Credence is secretly a Guant, and that's why Nagini never has a conversation or a spoken word exchanged between her and anyone else. Not once. So I believe the theory, and once you think of it like that, you can understand EXACTLY why Nagini made the choices she made.
I think he has a respect or some kind of little feeling towards Nagini that he doesent have with anything else. Nagini is loyal doesn't try to prove herself to him constantly like the death eaters do, and does what he says and understands he is boss I think he likes that. He definately I think does have a little love for it and that's why he keeps her he is confused but curious about the feeling
I feel like he barely realized it, But when he does he is ultimately confused (Like you said) and wonders what that feeling is. It's sort of a mixture of love, friendship and affection.
In a psychological comparison, Both Tom and Nagini had similar perspectives upon things, Nagini filled with despair upon her sad fate as a maledictus and treated cruelly by the world for it, while Tom who was treated coldly and feared for his abilities in the orphanage. Upon that chance encounter, the two looked at eachother and realized it was like staring onto a mirror, they were both alone deep down and hateful of the horrid truth they were in.
There are a few that Voldemort truly cares about.. one is Nagini.. another is his own professor Slughorn. He might not be able to feel love nor love another but it doesnt mean he can't care for something or someone
I think you are right. It is possible to fall in and feel love without recognizing it. Tom may never have had the chance to get to know what love is, but you know what? Love just doesn't care if you know it. It might not hit you like a lightning bolt, like it seemingly does to some who know love, no, it sneaks in on you, slowly forming a bond to someone that is deeper than you could imagine. You'll recognize that strange feeling and that it makes you do odd things, but you don't have a clue what it is.
Yes but no one gave Tom love at the same time. And perhaps Tom through his desire for power and glory wanted to be loved and admired. That people face him. Nagini is the only one most loyal to Voldemort and a bond is created between them. I believe that no human being can understand Voldemort in Harry Potter
Also wonder: why did Nagini ever even joined Voldemort? In crmies of grindelwald we saw her as a person who hates dark magic, how she hated Grindelwald. She cared deeply for Creadance, she wanted to help him and protect him. My quess is that Voldemort reminded jer of Creadance. We still don't know how his story will end, we don't know if he'll ever see Nagini again, or if he'll even survive at all.
I think the fact she was a human stuck forever in the shape of a snake and how few people are parseltongue left her lonely for so long that maybe she wasn't focused on voldemorts goals just wanted someone to talk to but that's just my thoughts on it
I think Nagini and Voldemort had a mother-and-son relationship, and maybe Nagini just became more snake-like and forgot the definitions of good and evil.
I believe that Voldemort loved Nagini because she was an animal (or at least a human that had become one anyway) and animals can be more loyal than people. He knew that she would stand by his side and be faithful to him, and he had the added bonus of being able to talk to her, which people don’t really get from their animal friends. Voldemort loved Nagini in the way that people love their dogs or cats. Maybe not as strongly, but yes. I think Voldemort doesn’t love people, but he loved Nagini, and I think that love probably extended to snakes generally.
j.k rowling said that if merope had raised him he would have been capable of love, perhaps it is like nagini raised voldemort back to a certain amountof healt in albania?, so he loved her as a mothery sort of way?
Of course Voldermort knows what love is, his love/likings are - Power Torture Murder Control Over Others His Life The Elder Wand Nagini See there are many things that Voldermort loves/likes
I think there's a difference between love and preservation of the things that bring you joy. Nagini, being a sadistic, murderous serpent, bring him joy, because she brings pain. I think this was a pragmatic move, by making Nagini a horcrux, the last horcrux to be destroyed would be directly guarded by Voldermort himself, as well as having its own mind and control, it cannot be stolen or killed easily and it kills other things, a protection method for the horcrux.
@@HarryPotterTheory I watched it, I think he didn't love Nagini but he did like her and held a sort of friendship. Similar to Voldemort helping Bellatrix up to help her escape and leaving the rest of his followers to be captured. I don't think love is the right word but he did feel, I guess sentimentality and a sense of friendship towards both Nagini and Bellatrix.
@@jamesh4616 I have to agree here. Riddle did not know or understand what love was. Not through an inability, genetic or magical, but rather through a lack of reciprocal love. The orphanage where he grew up was lackluster at its best description. When Riddle began exhibiting magical ability, the other kids would have shunned and bullied him even more. Yes, he DID love Nagini and Bellatrix. However, without a basis to know love, those feelings became manipulative rather than supportive.
My thoughts on how Voldemort was affected by the love are that it did, perhaps, stunt his emotions in some capacity (which would help to explain why he is so utterly, for lack of better word, "psychopathic" as a young child), but it certainly didn't make him incapable of feeling love, let alone caring about others. He certainly loves Hogwarts and cherishes magic, but if he were to feel love for another person, he would undoubtedly not think of the emotion as such and/or dismiss it entirely due to his evident disdain for the concept. For example, he does show some amount of emotion for his mother at two points in the series, those being his reaction to Hepzibah Smith's comment about her and his explanation to Harry about his family history in the graveyard. In the latter case, I see the vaguest hint of sadness or disappointment in his words regarding his mother's fate. He immediately discards the subject with a sarcastic remark that he is growing sentimental and calls the death eaters his true family, but I find the fact that he spoke of his supposedly despised parents at all quite telling. In Nagini's case, Dumbledore does indeed say it best "I think he is perhaps as fond of her as he can be of anything". He clearly does care for her as more than just a Horcrux, as he speaks to her with respect, despite her status as an underbeing, and he never shows her the cruelty he shows even his most loyal supporters (Bellatrix). He even comforts her when she gets irritated by the laughter of the death eaters. Whether he truly loves her is debatable, but given that he is capable of love, and Dumbledore seems to understand him quite well, it stands to reason that he does love the being who he is as fond of "as he can be of anything". Of course, he would never think of it as love, but denial does not erase reality.
I've always been curious about Voldemort and Nagini's past, and now learning she was a maledictus it raises even more questions. How/when did they meet? Was she still human or had she transformed into a snake permanently when they met? Why did he form such a bond with her and why was she so faithful to him when she was atleast at one point on the side of good? Personally Nagini's story is the main reason I look forward to seeing how the rest of Fantastic Beasts plays out.
I always thought the “love potion made him incapable of love” thing was dumb. Does that mean that his entire lineage is incapable of love from him forward? I always just thought of Voldemort as a sociopath or psychopath.
I've always been more bothered by the fact that there aren't more like him. You mean to tell me that he's the first person born out of false love created by a love potion? (Seriously, the Ministry should regard use of love potions as a class A felony or whatever the wizard equivalent is.)
@@AustynSN what if you get laid while using liquid luck? Does that kid also have an inability to feel love? A lot of questions around this topic. For my personal head cannon I just think of Voldemort like Palpatine, a manipulative psychopath who’s also extremely gifted with power.
@@jamesdaviesanswers8751 I figure the liquid luck would be more likely to lead you to someone who is interested in you already on some level, and maybe damage whatever relationship they're currently in. For example, you accidentally bump into the girl whose life you saved way back in sixth grade. She thinks it's her current boyfriend being over protective, trying to help her through the door and snaps at him. Later the two of you hook up, taking a break from the relationship when you've got to go off on a quest with your two best friends (one being her brother) to kill the most powerful dark wizard of all time. Once that's done, the two of you get married and have three kids.
No the love potion does make sense. If u were born with no love or artificial love in this case u would be unable to feel love. I think because it is magic it would affect him. If u had parents who were not magic and u are not magic and your parents don’t know love you still can but in this case it was magical artificial love so it works different. Ps sorry if u don’t understand it’s hard to explain
I always thought it was weird that everyone called it a "loveless union" between Voldemort's parents. It wasn't loveless, it was one-sided love. Therefore, your theory is a possible way the series can develope in. We'll probably see in the upcoming movies. I hope you're wrong in the detail that she was already permanently a snake when she met Voldemort, though. It would be nice to have a scene with the human Nagini and the young Tom Riddle getting to know each other the 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵 time Voldemort was in Albania ;). One thing that puzzled me a little was that you said the horcrux in Nagini was created in Albania when killing Bertha Jorkins. Where have you heard that? According to the quote you yourself recited, Dumbledore thought Voldemort got the idea of turning Nagini into a horcrux while killing a Muggle man, not a witch. Are you saying he was wrong?
OMG I think that he wanted her to be a horcrux because he was sure that with the rest of the horcruxes, he will never die and maybe he was hoping that Nagini will also be kept alive if she is intertwined with him. Maybe that's not how it works, but hey, nobody had done it before, so probably he just wanted to try and see if she could become immortal as well. In this way, she will be there for him forever. Now when I think about it - that is incredible!
Dumbledore and Harry believed he could feel remorse and chose not too. Also Harry had a thought that he would never die as long as Voldemort lived because his life force was tethered to the Horcruxes just as much.
I know that my comment is out of the topic, but I really like your video quality and the amount of time and passion you give in making these videos. I also like the background music which you add. Keep doing it!!
Maybe he knew her when she was not a transformed and started battling the love potion but was put on tragedy when she turned into her maleadictus form and the snake probably thought she would be abandoned after she had transformed but because he was a parcel mouth he chatted with and just wanted to comfort her but didn’t want to put her out of her misery himself and instead wanted someone else to do it so Nagini would still feel loved by Voldemort idk but it might be true
I think Nagini was the closest Voldemort ever got to being “in love” with someone…he literally willingly put a part of his soul in her, closest thing to a “soulmate” he ever knew…
Making Nagini a horcrux made her stronger than she would’ve been. Not only did she have power from having Voldemort’s soul attached to her, but she was almost indestructible. No common weapon or spell could kill her. We could call that love, or we could call that Voldemort’s possessive personality. He found something he liked and he didn’t want to lose it.
I do believe it was done outta love because even if Voldemort had died, he could've wanted to be with his precious snake. People can be afraid of death, but some are afraid of dying alone.
Yeah, it makes sense but even if he loved Nagini it wouldn't have been anything too strong. As we know he didn't understand or feel love, so she was probably more of just a companion who he enjoyed her company. Definitely a bond, but maybe not that deep of a level.
if you mean, he has the ability to love, no he does not, unless you mean he loves the fact that he thinks he's unable to die, well then yes, he can "love" but above all, i think it was just another magical achievement for him to be able to create an horcrux on a living thing
I think I would venture to take it a step further and say Nagini is the one to suggest becoming his horcrux as a gesture to prove her undying love and devotion to him!
We need to remember that Dumbledore may not always be a reliable narrator. I always thought Lord Voldemort would be more interesting if he loved Nagini. He’s still human and we know that even mass murderers in the real world often have feelings and love people. Doesn’t excuse what Voldemort did, but definitely makes him more interesting.
The thing is when he show regards for his kind and the revenge for how her mother was treated shows that he cares of some and the capability of love. Had he not been able to feel it his wand would also have been short probably even shorter than umbridge's because lack of love leads to falling short on other feelings too. He would have never even found a path to forming his heirarchy had he not got the path of Salazar Slytherin who was a normal person but felt that muggles have always discriminated magicians so they should cut them off. Grindelwald's movement would also have been instrumental in Voldemort's path creation as he was quite successful with this idea and said in the 2nd fantastic beasts movie that he hates Paris which is quite symbolic that he despised love.
The thing I’m most curious about is what happened to her to turn her as evil as him. Was it something a wizard did to make her hate people or did he completely seduce her as he did his followers or could Voldemort have used the imperious curse on her? She didn’t come across as power hungry or pure blood racist or weak minded as the other followers were.
Sorry, I'm late to your channel, but I must say thank you because ever since I met Nagini (as a person) in FB 2, I was immediately interested in her story and how she ended up with Valdemort. I still hope we get to see at least a hint of that before the FB series ends. But at least, you and others found the canon story about how they met and became dependent on one another. I'd still love to see it though. 🙂
Making her into one made her immortal, she’d live as long as he was also alive. I expect. IE like him she’d have to be killed, and wouldn’t die from age.
I think the idea of Voldemort loving Nagini makes a LOT of sense, especially considering his own parentage. Both of his parents were extremely selfish, and his mother sought to control the person she "loved", essentially drugging and repeatedly raping him. Voldemort probably felt some initial comfort from Nagini given their situation, and the fact that she was a snake gave him some amount of control over her, which added to his trust of her. Thus made her a horcrux. Once this was done, however, with the Voldemort's control strenghthened and the fact that Nagini was in a way voldemort himself, Voldemort fell in love with the only person he ever truly cared about: Himself. Also, I've got a fan-theory/head-canon that I've mentioned in other videos about the relationship between the two that I'll not directly mention here as it seems to have angered a couple people. :)
While I used to believe that Voldemort was incapable of feeling love, I now think it is more a case of being unable to recognize and understand it, combined with egocentrism and narcissism, which led to the perception that he was unable to feel it. For example, he knew that Severus had feelings for Lily and Bellatrix for him but in the case of Severus he saw it as a mere lust and with Bellatrix he likely believed she was mostly drawn to his power (he knew how looked after creating 7 Horcruxes...) but was unable to recognize the genuine love aspect behind it. It also doesn't help that his romantic experience was completely different than that of most others, he was a demisexual, borderline asexual and associated love with sexual lust based on either appearance or power, therefore he always underestimated it. But with Nagini is indeed the only person he ever felt love for, though he didn't know it, because there was no sexual component to their relationship and he had no real desires in that direction. The reason why he turned her into a Horcrux might have been due to the fact that he was trying to give her a form of immortality. I think Voldemort knew more about horcruxes than any other wizard who had lived and had studied the topic more extensively than anyone else and we know that there have been more wizards (and likely witches) who have created horcruxes between Herpo and Voldemort. There is just too much information on the topic, like the different way of destroying them and how to heal one's soul (which could result in death but not neccessarily) to come from just Herpo. So, what if a crazed wizard tried to turn an animal into a horcrux and discovered by doing so that it could expand the life span drastically, as in: eliminating the possibility to die of old age. Sure, it was still more vulnerable than objects but it had to be "destroyed" in order to die. if this would be true, it wouldn't just mean that Voldemort assured his own immortality but that of Nagini with the restriction that she was only immortal as long as he willed it. He held the strings and that's a dynamic, he would have liked, I imagine. The one who he cared for the most, would be with him, for as long as he wanted and holding her immortality in his hands, she was bound to be loyal to him. It would be just strange for Voldemort to create a horcrux destined to be destroyed when the host died of natural causes. I mean, while Voldemort wasn't always that careful with his horcruxes, creating a horcrux that doubles as a weapon is one thing, creating one with a fixed limited lifespan is a complete other matter... Oh and for those who wonder why I call Voldemort a demisexual instead of asexual, is because he had a daughter in the Cursed Child (which is still officially canon, even if most of the fanbase reject it). This would indicate that might have some small fraction of sexual attraction though I also think that the conception of his daughter had a more nefarious purpose and she was meant as another step in his path to absolute immortality...
Although I don’t think that Voldemort was capable of feeling true love, what he felt for Nagini might be considered a form a care or selfish love. Not true, selfless love, but a form of a kind of backwards love.
First thing first, I just think Voldemort had some kind of an obsession with nagini, not love or affection. And also, why did the last part have to be “alas! Earwax!”? I would’ve suggested something like “sunshine, daisy, butter mellow, turn this stupid fat rat yellow!”!
I don't think he loved her, not like say Harry loved Ginny or Ron loved Hermione. I think he saw Nagini as the other half of him. Both were special in his eyes, she was a snake and the animal representation of his family (the Gaunts) and of house Slytherin and Salazar Slytherin himself. They were kindred spirits if you like. I still dont think Voldemort can love due to the Love potion used by his Mother on his father, but do agree that if his mother has lived, she might have been able to teach him to love. . .however it might have been a twisted kind of love. I dunno, just my thoughts. 🤔
Nayyy on home being able to love. From what I see he Voldemort saw something which drove his own ego and himself to believe he is chosen . Him knowing language was another tool he can use. Nagini being a horcrux was his choosing same as Lestrange being his “lover” or tool. Either way I love your videos you do of Harry Potter. Keep up the great work
2:47 I’ve wondered this myself. Why would Voldemort make Nagini into a Horcrux if she was alive and could therefore be more easily destroyed then his other Horcruxes? I know Harry Potter was of course a living Horcrux as well, but as we all know, Voldemort never meant to make Harry into a Horcrux. So that’s understandable. But the question remains about Nagini.
Even if he cant feel love at its best,he can feel some sort of attachment ,proven by the quote “Voldemort screamed” which was put in right after Bellatrix died,proof that he Felt some sort of attachment towards her.
He had a very twisted way of "loving" people, animals and things. He "liked" people who served him, who could be manipulated and who shared his goals - his "friends" from school, Bellatrix and other people. He cared for Nagini just like you explained but it was not a pure selfless love. He used and manipulated her as well, especially because she was very vulnerable and a very rare creature (probably the only living snake Maledictus). His connection to her (and snakes and Slytherin house in general) of course influenced his decisions but there are other reasons as well. He liked to push the boundaries of magic, to experiment, do things other wizards have never done. He was also arrogant, he thought he could protect Nagini and make her live for a very long time, probably infinately eventually. And if not, he thought he would have other horcruxes as a backup and could create more if one or more are destroyed to always have seven.
I do think Nagini was Voldi's first and only chosen TRUE friend. Which I'm sure he'd deny but they can talk without anyone knowing what they are saying, she always has his back, and he needed her to stay alive and get a body back. I'm sure he hinted at giving back her human form for her loyalty, but I think besides putting himself INSIDE her...unsexually, that they truly had a bond.
Well in the movie Voldemort did say "he has discovered OUR secret" that's sharing so to speak and that's a part of love to me. So yea I can see that he could love her
I think when 2 people can benefit from each other like Voldemort and Nagini and there similarities make family love inside them and I believe only relationship love can be effected by a love potion not from a family or a friend even so if Tom had had friends apart from Nagini and apart from a few death eaters who just wanted to do evil deeds he would have been lifted from his curse and he might have grown to be a kind and hopeful man even helping Harry out with many things
There is also the fact that when something becomes a horcrux it becomes much harder to destroy. This fact could potentially have extended her lifespan even further and made her even more useful to voldemort.
Voldemort could be aromantic or just plain impotent. Maybe V was following his mothers example possessing anothers will by magic, his mother by love potion, V by horcrux. Fitting as polar opposite to his mother by possessing by death vs by love. Owning death was a bit of a theme with him anyway. And a self defending horcrux and extendable ear is also convenient. Maybe the horcrux would unnaturally extended the maledictus' life? Not only tethering V to the living realm but also a living horcrux. I mean, 1 soul + 1/7 would mess up the natural way right? Or would the horcrux prevent the dead body from decomposing, turning into some sort of relic. I consider real love to be unconditional like the love between Lilly and Harry, I don't think V would be capable of that without wanting to gain something from it.
I'm not convinced that the union between Merope and Riddle was entirely loveless; he had no real love for her, but she may well have really been in love with him. So, perhaps even in the most evil of humans, magical or not, there can be a tiny shred of love still hidden in there, looking for a way out. Voldemort found Nagini, and she was his "way out"; a way for the teeny bit of him that could love to express itself. Making her his last horcrux could have been his way of joining with her, as normal people join with each other in various kinds of marriage. Whatcha think? Plausible?
Making Nagiri a Horcrux also likely made her more powerful and resistant to death as was seen in the films where spells just kind of bounced off of her and it took the sword of Griffindor to kill her. This could also be seen as a form of love on Voldemort's part.
I'm not convinced, I like that you found the interview question, but I think his bond with nagini was more out of respect, like he gave wormtsil the hand, but he didn't respect wormtail. This is what he does for someone he does respect. It does show a different side of his character though you're right
Wouldn’t @2:30-3:00 only be true if dying counts as the vessel being destroyed? Because you can die with your body intact. Yes a life is destroyed but your body “ the vessel” is not.
Does making someone a horcrux change their lifespan? Assuming the lifespan of a living horcrux ended, does that destroy the horcrux, or does the fragment of soul take over the body?
I would say he could feel love but it’s not the kind of love we called love he only has an emotional connection but not to the extent of love but he thinks it’s love
I think he shared her body and by extension her emotions. I think he knew naginie wouldn't mind dying if he needed her to; for his resurrection. I think she was the most important horcrix, due to the fact he can occupy her body when his body was gone. In a way he wouldn't need to sacrifice her just to obtain a body, just occupy her everytime he needed to recreate his body.
0:52 think I'm missing something? Voldemort made 7 intentional horcruxes, right? the 6 listed here, then there was one other (besides harry which Voldemort didn't know about) though off the top of my head, I cant think of what the missing horcrux is.
THAT ! + The fact that he says to her in perseltongue in Deathly Hallows "the boy has discovered OUR secret" , not 'my' scret, Maybe even he would have tried to turn her back after getting the elder wand and killing Harry, or imagine if they bond making themselves each other horcruxes and become immortal together !
I don't think he loved her. I think he could love if he was shown love. If his mother had survived to love him, he could've loved others. He is fond of Nagini, he trusts her, maybe he even cares for her. But he doesn't love her. His horcruxes are posessions of 3 of the 4 founders, his diary (which I believe was a test moreso than an object of importance to him), his family ring. He wanted 6 horcruxes, so what would the final object be? I think he wanted the sword, but knew that it being goblin made, wouldn't accept the horcrux. I think Dumbledore is wrong about using Harry's death for his 6th horcrux. What would he have had at that time that was so important? So it needed to be something else close to him. But he had nothing like that, but after his failed attempt to murder Harry, he met this snake. Who I don't think was originally meant to be a maladictus. I think that was added later to serve fantastic beasts. This snake that he grew close to. And was loyal to him. And helped him survive. He chose her to be his final horcrux. But the horcruxes weren't all significant objects. Nor were they all significant deaths. They were incredibly sloppy and rushed. And solely based on the deaths, I'm surprised that aurors, or perhaps even lower law enforcement, didn't question Tom Riddle. TL:DR, I don't think he loved her, just fond of, trusted, and cared for. But not love. If he'd been shown love, he had the capability to love, but I don't think anyone loved him because his mother died.
Just because he can’t feel love doesn’t mean he can’t feel something for her akin to love, or as my mother once described my cousin he loved her as much and as deeply as was possible for him.
Tbh, when he was but a broken piece of soul floating around, it was a weak state, akin to reverting to a child in some regards. And during then, Nagini fed him with her snake -milk- venom. So, in that way, she was the closest thing Voldemort had to a mother.
4:30 Dumbledore seems to be talking about the animal horcruxes from personal experience. Not saying I'm right I just think it's a cool theory but what if Fawkes (Dumbledores Phoenix) is Dumbledores horcrux? Yeah the Phoenix dies but it always rises from the ashes
there is another explanation that everyone might miss. You said it yourself and we all also saw it, Nagini was loyal to voldermort, the only person she could communicate with even after being snake. However, Nagini was also vulnerable. Turning her into a horcrux made sure she would have magical defences and wouldn't be so vulnerable. Remember, voldermort could always make another horcrux. Turning Nagini into a horcrux may have been a way to actually reward her for her loyalty
A couple things. First, fondness is different from love, so Voldemort could have felt fondness for Nagini rather than love (it could also be beneficial to have at least on Horcrux be a living thing). Second, it's possible that if a living thing is made into a Horcrux, it too will become "immortal", whereas the piece of the soul inside it will keep it alive, though it can still be killed. Third, Nagini originally being human is non-canon. That was not in Rowling's original lore and was a stupid detail the Fantastic Beasts franchise invented on its own. Originally, she was just a regular snake.
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Can you explain why Nagini became a snake and how did she become a snake
I had a question, why didn't Pettigrew destroy the triwizard cup when he knew that it's the way through which harry could escape. If he did that harry would be already dead and voldemort would be the darkest wizard of the whole time.
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Ashwin magic my question is that why didn't Pettigrew destroy the triwizard cup so voldemort could kill Harry and Harry can't escape.
@@movieedits6845 It was some sort of curse
@@dakshkumarbhagat I think pettigrew or Voldemort were overconfident about the fact that Harry will die and didn’t thought that he can escape using the triwizard cup when the duel started between Harry and Voldemort pettigrew was busy focusing on his master then rather thinking about the triwizard cup
I bet if Nagini could change back to her human form(assuming she didn't age at all due to her curse), I bet Bellatrix would be 100% jealous.
@Guto She is? Oh my gosh, that's just got more interesting XD
@Guto could be. She's really jealous of Snape in canon so if she knew that Nagini is once a woman, she might get super jealous.
Ikr
@@everwildart3563 And Voldy would favor Nagini more and be really pissed if Bella tried to hurt her if only because of the horcrux or because he cared as much as he is able or a combination of both. This got even more interesting.
@@rubenmanukyan9337 except Hedwig is not a real person, she's an owl. Nagini is once a person, which is why I said that if she turned back to her beautiful human self, Bellatrix might get jealous (she is possessive after all). Also, Ginny is not a psychopath. Bellatrix is insane so her logic made no sense obviously.
I like to think that he cared about her but never realized because he didn't know what love was, he hadn't experienced it before so he just felt something strange but his arrogance made him think that his emotionally driven actions towards Nagini was simply his will and that if it was a choice he made then it had to be a good one
That is actually a good theory @EdwardMonroe
That’s a very logical theory. I’m surprised I never thought about it much.
This is a great way to think of it. He would never realize what love or care feels like, just tries to make it into a thing of logic and choice
@@rttnmlk123 old post but here's my two cents. after all the time that passed, nagini's human mind had atrophied so badly that she essentially had no will left and voldemort thought his soul fragment could overpower her remaining humanity with no effort.
he was, after all, the ultimate control freak.
I think the only reason nagini turned evil was because once she turned into a snake permanently she was lonely and voldemort was the only one she could communicate with. If you remember in fbawtft she refused to join grindewald even when credence joined him
Jk Rowling: 'Everything would have changed if his mother survived and loved him'. I interpret that Voldemort would have learnt to love by learning/observing it from his mother (and by returning the gestures). His mother however died. He didn't learn from her what love is, nor do I imagine him experiencing it from anyone else (more so fear, respect). This, however, doesn't mean he'd be incapable of loving. He just wouldn't understand his feelings. Not entirely sure, but I think Voldemort ignores what he doesn't understand?
Dumbledore did hint at that when he made the comment in (I think) Order of the Phoenix about Voldemort being very ignorant of certain kinds of magic.
I wonder if instead of the good side of love, Tom would have used love as a way to control and manipulate people, like how some abusers would. A lot of abusive partners would use the excuse of "loving" someone as a reason for hurting them, by saying it's the other person's fault they had to behave a certain way. After all, he saw that his mother forced her love on his father via the love potion; that's already a dodgy way to know about love.
@@animefallenangel That's an excellent point. It would probably depend on when he found out about her manipulating his father using magic (and the amount of poverty he'd be growing up in could end up being an issue regarding how he'd see Tom Snr. considering how he was reasonably well off).
@@animefallenangel This quora user justifies why Voldemort most likely didn't know that his mum seduced his father with a love potion: www.quora.com/Did-Voldemort-realise-that-his-mother-had-given-his-father-a-love-potion
To your comment, I'd add that only Bellatrix loved Voldemort. If he used love to abuse people, then only towards her.
@@denizkenger52 the process of making a horcrux can not possibly be a metaphor for ”making love”, how could it? Its transfering a part of the soul into an object after you killed a person. Voldemort did it with numerous inanimate objects and, unknowingly, with Harry. The same thing happened with Nagini, the theory of him having sexual intercourse with the snake is illogical and highly unlikely.
even true psychopaths that do not feel emotional connection to other people will sometimes bond emotionally to animals.
Yeah, I know an Austrian psychoath who loved dogs.
@@shcuf95 aww
I heard that liking animals is a sign that someone might be a psychopath. But literally everyone likes animals so.... EVERYONES A PSYCHOPATH!!!
At this point I feel that we should be reminded that psychopaths are human beings just like us, so we have to be careful not to demonize mental illness.
As a social worker I am aware of the severe forms that a mental disorder may shape into, but it is crucial for everyone involved with people who have mental problems to focus on the person and not their disorder! there 's always strength along with the difficulty and Yes Love Makes the World a better place!
Animals are easier for everyone to love.. they do not criticize, manipulate, correct, insult, isolate you... animals have the tendency to accept and love us for who we are. A trait we should learn from them!
8:18 Well, it shows that he had some miniscule amount of humanity. Also, I believe him loving Nagini is a hundred times more likely than him impregnating Bellatrix Lastrange.
The impregnation is very fanficy and I like it in that way but I still don’t accept it as canon
Yeah there was no way his little snake worked in any capacity, man was a walking corpse.
He was a psycopath or a sociopath. So he wasn't able to feel love. But that doesn't mean you can care about people in your own way.
@@luiscluzano2436 being a sociopath or psychopath makes you unable to feel empathy, not love. He wasn’t able to feel love as he was conceived under a love potion
@@Sageofpycymoor Being a sociopath and psychopath make you unable to feel emotions, or reduce the way you can feel them or make you unable de feel some emotion. Sociopath and phycopath are on a spectrum. Devoid of empathy exceept for dark empath. It's difficult to say that sociopath or psycopath can feel love or not. Even if you think you feel love, do you ? It's easy for a cluster B to think the will to possess and control, pride to be with and lust for someone to be love. If you never felt it in your life, you can mistake it for whatever mak you feel the buterfly. As you always read neurotical description of love. Neurodivergents and neurotipicals are fondamentaly different, but the first have to live with definition of the later philosophical / lingistic concept and perception. In a world not made for you, you can be confused easily. And in a world made for you, it's easy to assume everyone in your kind fondamentaly work the same as you, think the same as you. Which is not the case.
The theory makes sense as he did demonstrate that he was fond of her. She was his companion when he had no one and she stayed by his side through everything. She was probably the only one who simply loved him not for his power, but simply because in some way she could.
She loved him because he was the only one on planet earth who she could speak to. Because of her blood curse making her a snake, she only speaks parseltongue. No one can understand her, and she can't understand anyone else. She's been stuck alone, her whole life with no one to talk to, and no one to talk to her.
Until Credence came along. It's suspected that Credence is actually a fucking GUANT. Meaning he can speak parseltongue. Nagini fell in love with him obviously. But after Credence, then what? She's alone again. With no one to talk to, and no one to speak to her. Except this time the loneliness is WORSE, because she now knows what it is to have love and communication between two people. She knows that feeling now, and yearns for it even more now that it's gone.
She rots inside with that turmoil for years, thinking it'd be this way until she dies. All alone on a planet of 8 billion people.
Until.... Until Tom Riddle came along. And for the very first time since Credence? She can speak to, and be spoken to. She's not all alone in the world, anymore.
She doesn't want to lose that again, so she does anything and everything Tom Riddle tells her too. And I don't blame her.
She knew if she was ever separated from Tom, she'd be the lone speaking Parseltongue again. Credence and Tom are the only two people in her existence that can understand her words, and can speak back in words she understands.
I cannot imagine that feeling of isolation, and then the desperation it would cause at the thought of losing Tom.
All this is based off the theory that Credence is secretly a Guant, and that's why Nagini never has a conversation or a spoken word exchanged between her and anyone else. Not once.
So I believe the theory, and once you think of it like that, you can understand EXACTLY why Nagini made the choices she made.
@@shannonmoore1116 Harry is a Parselmouth. He can't understand her?
@@shannonmoore1116 credence is dumbledore 😢
I read somewhere that Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore, Aberforth's son.
If you were my teacher I would never have any doubt because you explain things so nicely 😂😂😂
Very true
Facts, that’s straight top marks in every class!
@@randomandy8516 ikrrr
Maybe because he reads a script?
@@kytkinpommiakytkinpommia8254 he writes it
I think he has a respect or some kind of little feeling towards Nagini that he doesent have with anything else. Nagini is loyal doesn't try to prove herself to him constantly like the death eaters do, and does what he says and understands he is boss I think he likes that. He definately I think does have a little love for it and that's why he keeps her he is confused but curious about the feeling
I feel like he barely realized it, But when he does he is ultimately confused (Like you said) and wonders what that feeling is. It's sort of a mixture of love, friendship and affection.
Voldemort was like "hey girl you got that fine ass tail, mind if I Slytherin your DM's" and Nagini was cool with it~!
Lol😂
Omg hahahahah!
This.
Eww
In a psychological comparison, Both Tom and Nagini had similar perspectives upon things, Nagini filled with despair upon her sad fate as a maledictus and treated cruelly by the world for it, while Tom who was treated coldly and feared for his abilities in the orphanage. Upon that chance encounter, the two looked at eachother and realized it was like staring onto a mirror, they were both alone deep down and hateful of the horrid truth they were in.
There are a few that Voldemort truly cares about.. one is Nagini.. another is his own professor Slughorn. He might not be able to feel love nor love another but it doesnt mean he can't care for something or someone
They were both attractive in their time too lmao
Ohh behave 💕
Both ended up looking like snakes in the end too, they were meant to be 😜
Why u give me fanfic ideas? somebody stop me
I think you are right. It is possible to fall in and feel love without recognizing it.
Tom may never have had the chance to get to know what love is, but you know what? Love just doesn't care if you know it. It might not hit you like a lightning bolt, like it seemingly does to some who know love, no, it sneaks in on you, slowly forming a bond to someone that is deeper than you could imagine. You'll recognize that strange feeling and that it makes you do odd things, but you don't have a clue what it is.
Yes but no one gave Tom love at the same time.
And perhaps Tom through his desire for power and glory wanted to be loved and admired.
That people face him.
Nagini is the only one most loyal to Voldemort and a bond is created between them.
I believe that no human being can understand Voldemort in Harry Potter
Also wonder: why did Nagini ever even joined Voldemort? In crmies of grindelwald we saw her as a person who hates dark magic, how she hated Grindelwald. She cared deeply for Creadance, she wanted to help him and protect him. My quess is that Voldemort reminded jer of Creadance. We still don't know how his story will end, we don't know if he'll ever see Nagini again, or if he'll even survive at all.
I think the fact she was a human stuck forever in the shape of a snake and how few people are parseltongue left her lonely for so long that maybe she wasn't focused on voldemorts goals just wanted someone to talk to but that's just my thoughts on it
I think Nagini and Voldemort had a mother-and-son relationship, and maybe Nagini just became more snake-like and forgot the definitions of good and evil.
I believe that Voldemort loved Nagini because she was an animal (or at least a human that had become one anyway) and animals can be more loyal than people. He knew that she would stand by his side and be faithful to him, and he had the added bonus of being able to talk to her, which people don’t really get from their animal friends. Voldemort loved Nagini in the way that people love their dogs or cats. Maybe not as strongly, but yes. I think Voldemort doesn’t love people, but he loved Nagini, and I think that love probably extended to snakes generally.
I feel he liked nagini, not loved, and he saw how strong she is and she made her a horocrux
j.k rowling said that if merope had raised him he would have been capable of love, perhaps it is like nagini raised voldemort back to a certain amountof healt in albania?, so he loved her as a mothery sort of way?
Of course Voldermort knows what love is, his love/likings are -
Power
Torture
Murder
Control Over Others
His Life
The Elder Wand
Nagini
See there are many things that Voldermort loves/likes
Lol
I think there's a difference between love and preservation of the things that bring you joy. Nagini, being a sadistic, murderous serpent, bring him joy, because she brings pain. I think this was a pragmatic move, by making Nagini a horcrux, the last horcrux to be destroyed would be directly guarded by Voldermort himself, as well as having its own mind and control, it cannot be stolen or killed easily and it kills other things, a protection method for the horcrux.
Slight affection and love are two totally different things. He never knew love.
You haven't even watched the video!
@@HarryPotterTheory i did, but nothing new of what has been previously theorized. Still love your videos. 🤍
@@HarryPotterTheory I watched it, I think he didn't love Nagini but he did like her and held a sort of friendship. Similar to Voldemort helping Bellatrix up to help her escape and leaving the rest of his followers to be captured.
I don't think love is the right word but he did feel, I guess sentimentality and a sense of friendship towards both Nagini and Bellatrix.
@@HarryPotterTheory She is right...it wasn't love at all....it was affection...
@@jamesh4616
I have to agree here.
Riddle did not know or understand what love was. Not through an inability, genetic or magical, but rather through a lack of reciprocal love.
The orphanage where he grew up was lackluster at its best description. When Riddle began exhibiting magical ability, the other kids would have shunned and bullied him even more.
Yes, he DID love Nagini and Bellatrix.
However, without a basis to know love, those feelings became manipulative rather than supportive.
My thoughts on how Voldemort was affected by the love are that it did, perhaps, stunt his emotions in some capacity (which would help to explain why he is so utterly, for lack of better word, "psychopathic" as a young child), but it certainly didn't make him incapable of feeling love, let alone caring about others. He certainly loves Hogwarts and cherishes magic, but if he were to feel love for another person, he would undoubtedly not think of the emotion as such and/or dismiss it entirely due to his evident disdain for the concept.
For example, he does show some amount of emotion for his mother at two points in the series, those being his reaction to Hepzibah Smith's comment about her and his explanation to Harry about his family history in the graveyard. In the latter case, I see the vaguest hint of sadness or disappointment in his words regarding his mother's fate. He immediately discards the subject with a sarcastic remark that he is growing sentimental and calls the death eaters his true family, but I find the fact that he spoke of his supposedly despised parents at all quite telling.
In Nagini's case, Dumbledore does indeed say it best "I think he is perhaps as fond of her as he can be of anything". He clearly does care for her as more than just a Horcrux, as he speaks to her with respect, despite her status as an underbeing, and he never shows her the cruelty he shows even his most loyal supporters (Bellatrix). He even comforts her when she gets irritated by the laughter of the death eaters. Whether he truly loves her is debatable, but given that he is capable of love, and Dumbledore seems to understand him quite well, it stands to reason that he does love the being who he is as fond of "as he can be of anything". Of course, he would never think of it as love, but denial does not erase reality.
I know its unrelated, but I would love (no pun intended) to hear a conversation between Voldemort and Plagueis especially discussing immortality.
'Only I can live forever' (Voldemort 1998. 2nd May)
Have you ever heard the legend of Herpo the Foul?
I've always been curious about Voldemort and Nagini's past, and now learning she was a maledictus it raises even more questions. How/when did they meet? Was she still human or had she transformed into a snake permanently when they met? Why did he form such a bond with her and why was she so faithful to him when she was atleast at one point on the side of good? Personally Nagini's story is the main reason I look forward to seeing how the rest of Fantastic Beasts plays out.
I always thought the “love potion made him incapable of love” thing was dumb. Does that mean that his entire lineage is incapable of love from him forward? I always just thought of Voldemort as a sociopath or psychopath.
I've always been more bothered by the fact that there aren't more like him. You mean to tell me that he's the first person born out of false love created by a love potion?
(Seriously, the Ministry should regard use of love potions as a class A felony or whatever the wizard equivalent is.)
@@AustynSN what if you get laid while using liquid luck? Does that kid also have an inability to feel love? A lot of questions around this topic. For my personal head cannon I just think of Voldemort like Palpatine, a manipulative psychopath who’s also extremely gifted with power.
@@jamesdaviesanswers8751 I figure the liquid luck would be more likely to lead you to someone who is interested in you already on some level, and maybe damage whatever relationship they're currently in. For example, you accidentally bump into the girl whose life you saved way back in sixth grade. She thinks it's her current boyfriend being over protective, trying to help her through the door and snaps at him. Later the two of you hook up, taking a break from the relationship when you've got to go off on a quest with your two best friends (one being her brother) to kill the most powerful dark wizard of all time. Once that's done, the two of you get married and have three kids.
@@AustynSN 🤣🤣🤣
No the love potion does make sense. If u were born with no love or artificial love in this case u would be unable to feel love. I think because it is magic it would affect him. If u had parents who were not magic and u are not magic and your parents don’t know love you still can but in this case it was magical artificial love so it works different. Ps sorry if u don’t understand it’s hard to explain
“power! And horcroxes! There are more important things - *nose* and common sense"
Source : Voldy moldy and the stolen nose 😂
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@@Vin_03 ooh Grindelwald replied to me XD
Voldy really can't get enough of the nose roast even after years lmfao
@@duckysrecords_ so true 😂
I'm single and i looked at my cat
Me: i think im turning into voldemort.
Your cat is really Professor McGonagall 🤯
@@HogArtsASMR his cat probably wasn’t grey.
I always thought it was weird that everyone called it a "loveless union" between Voldemort's parents. It wasn't loveless, it was one-sided love. Therefore, your theory is a possible way the series can develope in. We'll probably see in the upcoming movies. I hope you're wrong in the detail that she was already permanently a snake when she met Voldemort, though. It would be nice to have a scene with the human Nagini and the young Tom Riddle getting to know each other the 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵 time Voldemort was in Albania ;).
One thing that puzzled me a little was that you said the horcrux in Nagini was created in Albania when killing Bertha Jorkins. Where have you heard that? According to the quote you yourself recited, Dumbledore thought Voldemort got the idea of turning Nagini into a horcrux while killing a Muggle man, not a witch. Are you saying he was wrong?
Since it was Nagini that killed the old man he couldn’t have made a horecrux.
The closing quote was Dumbledore sitting on the end of Harry’s bed at the end of the conversation at the end of the first book
OMG I think that he wanted her to be a horcrux because he was sure that with the rest of the horcruxes, he will never die and maybe he was hoping that Nagini will also be kept alive if she is intertwined with him. Maybe that's not how it works, but hey, nobody had done it before, so probably he just wanted to try and see if she could become immortal as well. In this way, she will be there for him forever. Now when I think about it - that is incredible!
Yes Voldemort really wanted to know someone by his side
Dumbledore and Harry believed he could feel remorse and chose not too. Also Harry had a thought that he would never die as long as Voldemort lived because his life force was tethered to the Horcruxes just as much.
I'd say that he wasn't incapable of love, but it was impossibly harder for him to love.
I think that having someone else's soul inside you could make you immortal,and Voldemort would have her around for ever long.
I know that my comment is out of the topic, but I really like your video quality and the amount of time and passion you give in making these videos. I also like the background music which you add. Keep doing it!!
Maybe he knew her when she was not a transformed and started battling the love potion but was put on tragedy when she turned into her maleadictus form and the snake probably thought she would be abandoned after she had transformed but because he was a parcel mouth he chatted with and just wanted to comfort her but didn’t want to put her out of her misery himself and instead wanted someone else to do it so Nagini would still feel loved by Voldemort idk but it might be true
Though the living thing is dead, the soul continues to grasp onto the fallen, dead, corpse. Until it can live no longer.
When hp theory uploads
I don’t need sleep I need answers
I think Nagini was the closest Voldemort ever got to being “in love” with someone…he literally willingly put a part of his soul in her, closest thing to a “soulmate” he ever knew…
Making Nagini a horcrux made her stronger than she would’ve been. Not only did she have power from having Voldemort’s soul attached to her, but she was almost indestructible. No common weapon or spell could kill her.
We could call that love, or we could call that Voldemort’s possessive personality. He found something he liked and he didn’t want to lose it.
I do believe it was done outta love because even if Voldemort had died, he could've wanted to be with his precious snake. People can be afraid of death, but some are afraid of dying alone.
Yeah, it makes sense but even if he loved Nagini it wouldn't have been anything too strong. As we know he didn't understand or feel love, so she was probably more of just a companion who he enjoyed her company. Definitely a bond, but maybe not that deep of a level.
Nagini’s story has become the most intriguing for me
I love the concept of Maledictus, she seems really nice in FB2, caring for Credence.
if you mean, he has the ability to love, no he does not, unless you mean he loves the fact that he thinks he's unable to die, well then yes, he can "love" but above all, i think it was just another magical achievement for him to be able to create an horcrux on a living thing
I respect your weekly consistency making videos!!
I think I would venture to take it a step further and say Nagini is the one to suggest becoming his horcrux as a gesture to prove her undying love and devotion to him!
We need to remember that Dumbledore may not always be a reliable narrator. I always thought Lord Voldemort would be more interesting if he loved Nagini. He’s still human and we know that even mass murderers in the real world often have feelings and love people.
Doesn’t excuse what Voldemort did, but definitely makes him more interesting.
I think he cared for her, maybe loved her like a possession but not romantically or any such notion. but cared deeply about her wellbeing.
The only reason Volemort would've loved Nagini would be because she would've had a nose
as soon as i saw this i instantly clicked
When someone says you have a cold heart it normally means you're not wanting to show emotion
The thing is when he show regards for his kind and the revenge for how her mother was treated shows that he cares of some and the capability of love. Had he not been able to feel it his wand would also have been short probably even shorter than umbridge's because lack of love leads to falling short on other feelings too. He would have never even found a path to forming his heirarchy had he not got the path of Salazar Slytherin who was a normal person but felt that muggles have always discriminated magicians so they should cut them off. Grindelwald's movement would also have been instrumental in Voldemort's path creation as he was quite successful with this idea and said in the 2nd fantastic beasts movie that he hates Paris which is quite symbolic that he despised love.
The thing I’m most curious about is what happened to her to turn her as evil as him. Was it something a wizard did to make her hate people or did he completely seduce her as he did his followers or could Voldemort have used the imperious curse on her?
She didn’t come across as power hungry or pure blood racist or weak minded as the other followers were.
Whatever level of affection he was capable of, I certainly believe that Nagini was the only living thing for which he felt it.
@ lmao no
Sorry, I'm late to your channel, but I must say thank you because ever since I met Nagini (as a person) in FB 2, I was immediately interested in her story and how she ended up with Valdemort. I still hope we get to see at least a hint of that before the FB series ends. But at least, you and others found the canon story about how they met and became dependent on one another. I'd still love to see it though. 🙂
Making her into one made her immortal, she’d live as long as he was also alive. I expect. IE like him she’d have to be killed, and wouldn’t die from age.
I think the idea of Voldemort loving Nagini makes a LOT of sense, especially considering his own parentage. Both of his parents were extremely selfish, and his mother sought to control the person she "loved", essentially drugging and repeatedly raping him.
Voldemort probably felt some initial comfort from Nagini given their situation, and the fact that she was a snake gave him some amount of control over her, which added to his trust of her. Thus made her a horcrux. Once this was done, however, with the Voldemort's control strenghthened and the fact that Nagini was in a way voldemort himself, Voldemort fell in love with the only person he ever truly cared about: Himself.
Also, I've got a fan-theory/head-canon that I've mentioned in other videos about the relationship between the two that I'll not directly mention here as it seems to have angered a couple people. :)
While I used to believe that Voldemort was incapable of feeling love, I now think it is more a case of being unable to recognize and understand it, combined with egocentrism and narcissism, which led to the perception that he was unable to feel it. For example, he knew that Severus had feelings for Lily and Bellatrix for him but in the case of Severus he saw it as a mere lust and with Bellatrix he likely believed she was mostly drawn to his power (he knew how looked after creating 7 Horcruxes...) but was unable to recognize the genuine love aspect behind it. It also doesn't help that his romantic experience was completely different than that of most others, he was a demisexual, borderline asexual and associated love with sexual lust based on either appearance or power, therefore he always underestimated it.
But with Nagini is indeed the only person he ever felt love for, though he didn't know it, because there was no sexual component to their relationship and he had no real desires in that direction. The reason why he turned her into a Horcrux might have been due to the fact that he was trying to give her a form of immortality. I think Voldemort knew more about horcruxes than any other wizard who had lived and had studied the topic more extensively than anyone else and we know that there have been more wizards (and likely witches) who have created horcruxes between Herpo and Voldemort. There is just too much information on the topic, like the different way of destroying them and how to heal one's soul (which could result in death but not neccessarily) to come from just Herpo. So, what if a crazed wizard tried to turn an animal into a horcrux and discovered by doing so that it could expand the life span drastically, as in: eliminating the possibility to die of old age. Sure, it was still more vulnerable than objects but it had to be "destroyed" in order to die. if this would be true, it wouldn't just mean that Voldemort assured his own immortality but that of Nagini with the restriction that she was only immortal as long as he willed it. He held the strings and that's a dynamic, he would have liked, I imagine. The one who he cared for the most, would be with him, for as long as he wanted and holding her immortality in his hands, she was bound to be loyal to him. It would be just strange for Voldemort to create a horcrux destined to be destroyed when the host died of natural causes. I mean, while Voldemort wasn't always that careful with his horcruxes, creating a horcrux that doubles as a weapon is one thing, creating one with a fixed limited lifespan is a complete other matter...
Oh and for those who wonder why I call Voldemort a demisexual instead of asexual, is because he had a daughter in the Cursed Child (which is still officially canon, even if most of the fanbase reject it). This would indicate that might have some small fraction of sexual attraction though I also think that the conception of his daughter had a more nefarious purpose and she was meant as another step in his path to absolute immortality...
Although I don’t think that Voldemort was capable of feeling true love, what he felt for Nagini might be considered a form a care or selfish love. Not true, selfless love, but a form of a kind of backwards love.
First thing first, I just think Voldemort had some kind of an obsession with nagini, not love or affection. And also, why did the last part have to be “alas! Earwax!”? I would’ve suggested something like “sunshine, daisy, butter mellow, turn this stupid fat rat yellow!”!
Me personally Voldemort only cares about Nagini because she's literally a part of his soul and because she's useful so it's not really love.
I don't think he loved her, not like say Harry loved Ginny or Ron loved Hermione. I think he saw Nagini as the other half of him. Both were special in his eyes, she was a snake and the animal representation of his family (the Gaunts) and of house Slytherin and Salazar Slytherin himself. They were kindred spirits if you like.
I still dont think Voldemort can love due to the Love potion used by his Mother on his father, but do agree that if his mother has lived, she might have been able to teach him to love. . .however it might have been a twisted kind of love.
I dunno, just my thoughts. 🤔
Nayyy on home being able to love. From what I see he Voldemort saw something which drove his own ego and himself to believe he is chosen . Him knowing language was another tool he can use. Nagini being a horcrux was his choosing same as Lestrange being his “lover” or tool. Either way I love your videos you do of Harry Potter. Keep up the great work
2:47 I’ve wondered this myself. Why would Voldemort make Nagini into a Horcrux if she was alive and could therefore be more easily destroyed then his other Horcruxes? I know Harry Potter was of course a living Horcrux as well, but as we all know, Voldemort never meant to make Harry into a Horcrux. So that’s understandable. But the question remains about Nagini.
he just wanted his snake waifu.
I strongly agree with this theory 100%.
"I need to keep you safe, Nagini."-Tom
Even if he cant feel love at its best,he can feel some sort of attachment ,proven by the quote “Voldemort screamed” which was put in right after Bellatrix died,proof that he Felt some sort of attachment towards her.
Can't wait for fantastic beasts 3 💖
His ambition on the other hand what is closest friend that's basically as close as you can get with an emotion
He had a very twisted way of "loving" people, animals and things. He "liked" people who served him, who could be manipulated and who shared his goals - his "friends" from school, Bellatrix and other people. He cared for Nagini just like you explained but it was not a pure selfless love. He used and manipulated her as well, especially because she was very vulnerable and a very rare creature (probably the only living snake Maledictus). His connection to her (and snakes and Slytherin house in general) of course influenced his decisions but there are other reasons as well. He liked to push the boundaries of magic, to experiment, do things other wizards have never done. He was also arrogant, he thought he could protect Nagini and make her live for a very long time, probably infinately eventually. And if not, he thought he would have other horcruxes as a backup and could create more if one or more are destroyed to always have seven.
I do think Nagini was Voldi's first and only chosen TRUE friend. Which I'm sure he'd deny but they can talk without anyone knowing what they are saying, she always has his back, and he needed her to stay alive and get a body back. I'm sure he hinted at giving back her human form for her loyalty, but I think besides putting himself INSIDE her...unsexually, that they truly had a bond.
I believe Nagini was the mother he never had
Maybe he can love, he just won’t recognize or acknowledge it because he is afraid of these positive feeling and thus rejects the notion.
Well in the movie Voldemort did say "he has discovered OUR secret" that's sharing so to speak and that's a part of love to me. So yea I can see that he could love her
Bellatrix: I've been tricked, I've been backstabbed, and I've been quite possibly bamboozled.
Your theory is worthy of truth. Well done!
I think when 2 people can benefit from each other like Voldemort and Nagini and there similarities make family love inside them and I believe only relationship love can be effected by a love potion not from a family or a friend even so if Tom had had friends apart from Nagini and apart from a few death eaters who just wanted to do evil deeds he would have been lifted from his curse and he might have grown to be a kind and hopeful man even helping Harry out with many things
There is also the fact that when something becomes a horcrux it becomes much harder to destroy. This fact could potentially have extended her lifespan even further and made her even more useful to voldemort.
Merope still loved Tom despite him not loving her back. So love still existed.
Voldemort could be aromantic or just plain impotent. Maybe V was following his mothers example possessing anothers will by magic, his mother by love potion, V by horcrux. Fitting as polar opposite to his mother by possessing by death vs by love. Owning death was a bit of a theme with him anyway. And a self defending horcrux and extendable ear is also convenient. Maybe the horcrux would unnaturally extended the maledictus' life? Not only tethering V to the living realm but also a living horcrux. I mean, 1 soul + 1/7 would mess up the natural way right? Or would the horcrux prevent the dead body from decomposing, turning into some sort of relic.
I consider real love to be unconditional like the love between Lilly and Harry, I don't think V would be capable of that without wanting to gain something from it.
I'm not convinced that the union between Merope and Riddle was entirely loveless; he had no real love for her, but she may well have really been in love with him. So, perhaps even in the most evil of humans, magical or not, there can be a tiny shred of love still hidden in there, looking for a way out. Voldemort found Nagini, and she was his "way out"; a way for the teeny bit of him that could love to express itself. Making her his last horcrux could have been his way of joining with her, as normal people join with each other in various kinds of marriage. Whatcha think? Plausible?
Making Nagiri a Horcrux also likely made her more powerful and resistant to death as was seen in the films where spells just kind of bounced off of her and it took the sword of Griffindor to kill her. This could also be seen as a form of love on Voldemort's part.
I'm not convinced, I like that you found the interview question, but I think his bond with nagini was more out of respect, like he gave wormtsil the hand, but he didn't respect wormtail. This is what he does for someone he does respect. It does show a different side of his character though you're right
Wouldn’t @2:30-3:00 only be true if dying counts as the vessel being destroyed? Because you can die with your body intact. Yes a life is destroyed but your body “ the vessel” is not.
"Alas, earwax." Am I the only one curious to know how Dumbledore knew what earwax tastes like?
Does making someone a horcrux change their lifespan?
Assuming the lifespan of a living horcrux ended, does that destroy the horcrux, or does the fragment of soul take over the body?
I would say he could feel love but it’s not the kind of love we called love he only has an emotional connection but not to the extent of love but he thinks it’s love
I like your theory. Great episode. Tnx!
All your videos make me look at it in a different picture.
I think he shared her body and by extension her emotions. I think he knew naginie wouldn't mind dying if he needed her to; for his resurrection. I think she was the most important horcrix, due to the fact he can occupy her body when his body was gone. In a way he wouldn't need to sacrifice her just to obtain a body, just occupy her everytime he needed to recreate his body.
0:52 think I'm missing something? Voldemort made 7 intentional horcruxes, right? the 6 listed here, then there was one other (besides harry which Voldemort didn't know about) though off the top of my head, I cant think of what the missing horcrux is.
THAT ! + The fact that he says to her in perseltongue in Deathly Hallows "the boy has discovered OUR secret" , not 'my' scret, Maybe even he would have tried to turn her back after getting the elder wand and killing Harry, or imagine if they bond making themselves each other horcruxes and become immortal together !
I don't think he loved her. I think he could love if he was shown love. If his mother had survived to love him, he could've loved others. He is fond of Nagini, he trusts her, maybe he even cares for her. But he doesn't love her. His horcruxes are posessions of 3 of the 4 founders, his diary (which I believe was a test moreso than an object of importance to him), his family ring. He wanted 6 horcruxes, so what would the final object be? I think he wanted the sword, but knew that it being goblin made, wouldn't accept the horcrux. I think Dumbledore is wrong about using Harry's death for his 6th horcrux. What would he have had at that time that was so important? So it needed to be something else close to him. But he had nothing like that, but after his failed attempt to murder Harry, he met this snake. Who I don't think was originally meant to be a maladictus. I think that was added later to serve fantastic beasts. This snake that he grew close to. And was loyal to him. And helped him survive. He chose her to be his final horcrux. But the horcruxes weren't all significant objects. Nor were they all significant deaths. They were incredibly sloppy and rushed. And solely based on the deaths, I'm surprised that aurors, or perhaps even lower law enforcement, didn't question Tom Riddle.
TL:DR, I don't think he loved her, just fond of, trusted, and cared for. But not love. If he'd been shown love, he had the capability to love, but I don't think anyone loved him because his mother died.
Just because he can’t feel love doesn’t mean he can’t feel something for her akin to love, or as my mother once described my cousin he loved her as much and as deeply as was possible for him.
Tbh, when he was but a broken piece of soul floating around, it was a weak state, akin to reverting to a child in some regards.
And during then, Nagini fed him with her snake -milk- venom.
So, in that way, she was the closest thing Voldemort had to a mother.
After all you're more effective when you're not plagued by emotions
4:30 Dumbledore seems to be talking about the animal horcruxes from personal experience. Not saying I'm right I just think it's a cool theory but what if Fawkes (Dumbledores Phoenix) is Dumbledores horcrux? Yeah the Phoenix dies but it always rises from the ashes
there is another explanation that everyone might miss. You said it yourself and we all also saw it, Nagini was loyal to voldermort, the only person she could communicate with even after being snake. However, Nagini was also vulnerable. Turning her into a horcrux made sure she would have magical defences and wouldn't be so vulnerable.
Remember, voldermort could always make another horcrux. Turning Nagini into a horcrux may have been a way to actually reward her for her loyalty
A couple things. First, fondness is different from love, so Voldemort could have felt fondness for Nagini rather than love (it could also be beneficial to have at least on Horcrux be a living thing). Second, it's possible that if a living thing is made into a Horcrux, it too will become "immortal", whereas the piece of the soul inside it will keep it alive, though it can still be killed. Third, Nagini originally being human is non-canon. That was not in Rowling's original lore and was a stupid detail the Fantastic Beasts franchise invented on its own. Originally, she was just a regular snake.
The Horcrux itself is immortal, so changing a living creature into a Horcrux would essentially make that thing immortal too.