Chevy runs on 5w-30 vs 0w-20, why GM owners switching to 5w-30 oil?
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3000 miles on my engine oil with direct injection is black and you can smell the fuel in the drained oil. Change it every 3000
i change my oil every 3000 regardless of what kind of engine it is, turbo, naturally aspirated, direct injection or not etc
A major petrochemical company has a write-up about how the soot from GDI engines is very different from port injected gas engine soot. The GDI soot is basically like diesel soot. A lot of that abrasive, diesel-like soot endes up in the engine oil and the oil filter can't do anything to prevent it. That soot accelerates timing chain wear and increases the risk of AFM/DFM lifter issues.
@karlschauff7989 for sure. its ironic that actually 20 and 30 years ago 3K mile oil changes might not have been needed with bigger naturally aspirated engines...but now that engines are much smaller and much more hardworking and actually need 3K mile oil changes, the industry is telling us to go 10K miles between oil changes. wild stuff
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 I think the biggest source of it was the oil industry. They wanted to make more money per unit of engine oil so they expand into synthetic engine oils. How do they get people to pay twice as much for synthetic oil? Tell them they will "save money" by running that oil 2 or 3 times longer. Suddenly companies like Exxon Mobil are saying "good for 10,000+ miles!" on the bottle and people eat it up. The problem is that these newer engines are having issues with the soot and unburned fuel that GDI engines are particularly prone to. Yeah ExxonMobil has proven that their oil can hold up really well in testing where the engine really only sees a highway driving scenario with towing mixed in. But try to go 10,000+ miles with that oil in the vehicle that cold starts, idles for a long time, drives less than a mile, and then gets shut back off until the end of the person's work day. That oil will be loaded with contaminants and the engine will suffer.
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 can thank CAFE for that, and the push for better mpg and stright up trying to get gas cars off the road. I've switched from 0w20 in my 2019 civic coupe 1.5 turbo to 5w30 liqui moly.
not just GM owners who are switching to 5w30
I agree with changing the oil more often. I change the oil every 3000 no matter what kind of fuel injection.
same here, i change mine every 3000 regardless of what kind of engine or fuel system. oil and filters are cheap its just dumb to go so long between oil changes
Thank you for taking the time to share this information with us.
Never thought I would see you commenting on my channel. Thank you for taking time to comment.
@@repairvehiclecrazy small world.
Levels to everything
I have some quick questions for you, my friend. Would adding a thicker oil to a car mess with or destroy the electronic oil pump in the long run? Since the car is not programmed to detect what weight oil is in it and it will have to work harder with a different oil viscosity. Will it affect piston ring sealing capabilities with different oil than required? Just wondering as everybody says you have to stick to the oil the manufacturer recommends on your vehicle and nothing else!
What do you have that has electronic oil pump?
@@repairvehicle I misspoke. It is an electronic water pump on the Toyota a25a-fks engine and not the oil pump. My mistake.
Electronic water pump is not affected by the oil at all. Piston ring seating will not be affected by slightly heavier viscosity.
Great information here. This is what people need to be aware of when they go for their next car purchase, if they care at all about longevity of their vehicle.
Same reason why I use 5w40 on the MB CLA... get's to 8-10 % dilution... basically oil becomes almost diesel, it could catch fire...
Just started using 5-30 in my 2018 crosstrek….after 36k. Km it as it was using a bit in between changes….4000km. Oil change interval. It’s the only way to prevent fuel dilution is to change the oil often and early.
Thanks for the vid. It's so terrible that we consumers have to pay this much attention to these details, just to achieve "normal service" from our engines. New tech isn't always better IMO.
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What are your thoughts about using 0w-30 instead of 0w-20 or 5w-30? I live in Texas with 175,000 miles on a 2017 Chevrolet Silverado1500 6.2L V8. Thank you.
How often do you change your oil?
Whenever the oil life indicator says 0% which is approximately 7500 miles on average.
You can use either one, I prefer 5w-30 due to fuel dilution for extract protection when oil is diluted with gasoline , but I would change it 5k miles max or 6 months which ever comes first
Toyotaco 30000 miles gets soot in tail pipe with 2000 to 3000 mile toyostealership maint every 5 months.I took back my maint. New air filter. PuroBoss oil filter. 5w30 syn. 6-month change Lucas gas cleaner for 3 tanks got 3 more mpg! I am lubing diffs , transfer case and soon transmission fluid renew. Mileage already better! 80 miles highway 2x monthly. 0 oil drips out when parked. Check dry dip stick. 5w30 leaves a film on dip stick for 2 weeks. Nuff said!
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One of a many reasons why i'm staying with sequential fuel injection. Excellent video!! Well done!!!
I have a 2013 Honda CRV it uses 0/20 oil I don’t like it I want to start using 5/30. Do you think it would hurt the engine?
why do you want to use 5/30?
@@repairvehicle I see you answering my question on over here, I just don’t like how thin the 20 weight gets when it heats up. I think Honda makes you use 20 wait so the engine won’t last and you can buy another car that’s what I believe.
@jojojeep1 I will make a video explaining pros and cons with answers to your questions.
@@repairvehicle thank you I’ll keep my eye out
I have a 2023 Camry se 2.5. It won't see 1 drop of the facotry 0w-16. I change it with Mobil 1 0w-30. Same flow when cold, just a little thicker when hot
Mobil cold flow viscosity for 0w-16 39.5 and Mobil cold flow viscosity for 0w-30 56.8. Not same numbers to me, big difference.
That's correct. But what the first number mean is that in order for the first number to be rated as 0w is that the oil has pass a ccs test at -35C and pass a mrv test at -40C. Both the 0w16 or 0w30 have to pass the same test because the first number is rotational. The first number is the oils ability to ensure it can still rotate with this oil. The second number is the oils viscosity when hot. A 30 is heavier than 16.
@jas4925 both numbers is for oil viscosity, oil viscosity when it’s cold and oil viscosity when oil is hot. Oil needs to flow and provide proper lubrication when cold and when hot.
@repairvehicle I hope you are not saying I disagree. I don't disagree. I understand that, do you? I am aware as to why they are recommending a lighter oil. It's for strictly better fuel economy. I also understand what the Kinetoic viscosity of oil is. They test the oils viscosity at 40c and 100c. You will never see 100c of oil temperature in a normal daily driver. Most of the time the oil temperature is 70C to 80c .Whether it's 0W16 0w20 0w30 5w20 5w30, these are all lower viscosity oils. With the 0w16, which is already so light, there is no safety if a direct injector becomes clogged and stops atominizing the fuel, which is where most of the fuel dilution problem occurs. Then, the oil becomes diluted with the fuel lowering the viscosity the engine wear becomes hi.
thin oil is for emissions/fuel mileage, not for engine protection or longevity. its common sense. this thin oil is forced by big gov
And for more power because you have less drag
@@repairvehicle thats true too
@@repairvehicle Who's racing on the street with their grocery go getters?
Where did I say racing?
Excellent
Low tension piston rings are also part of the problem. Our corrupt government forced it on car manufacturers.
My Corolla requires 0w-8. I'm in a hot climate up to 115°F in the summer and can get to 30°F in the winter. Ok to use this oil year round?
As long as you change your oil every 3k miles max or 6 months, which ever comes first you will be fine.
What year is your Corolla? I don’t see it in the owners manual requires 0w-8
@@repairvehicle New model year 2024
@kalani1987 online manual does not have it
@kalani1987 which Corolla model do you have?
I just bought a 2016 with 108k miles with a tick should i use 5w 30 insted of 0w20?
What did you buy
I guess I’ll start using Castrol Edge 5W-20 in my 2017 Toyota Tacoma… it calls for 0W-20.
Thanks for sharing this info!
Why 5w-20?
@@repairvehicle I’m sorry I meant 0W-30….the 0W-20 after 5000 miles does have a fuel smell to it when I change it…
@61espo why 0w-30?
@@repairvehicle The gas dilution from the direct injection in the 5W-30 after 5000 miles would be closer to the original 0W-20 it calls for. Although I think I’ll just start changing the 0W-20 at 3000 miles instead of 5000. I think this would be the better option.
Did you do oil analysis?
What do you think gm1.5t using 5w30 instead manufacturing recommends 0w20? When I use 0w20 oil look more easily into dark color compared to 30. And 0w20 more hotter than 5w20 in engine temperature
0W-20 or 5W-30 for hot climates? Why both viscosity rated for hot climates?
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@@repairvehicle thank you for the replying. I got your point, as long as the clean oil and shorten oil change interval and both will be fine. My engine is brand new 2022 model Gm currently had 15k miles total. I changed my oil every 1K mile. There is difference by using 020 coolant temperatures got 194-197F on the highway, while 5w30 got188-192. As long as new oil change reached 500mile on 020, oil went into darker. 5w30 won’t. Both smell the oil 020 got more fuel smell than5w30. In the OBD misfire monitor value got 1-6 sometime both cylinder 1 and to. But after changing to 5w30. Misfire value goes to 0.
Id rather buy a 1998-2001 toyota camry than a modern car. Or even better, same year up to 2005 avalon. Or even older honda's. Id love a 1999 accord V6 coupe 5 speed. My current vehicle is a 2019 honda civic coupe 1.5 turbo. Ive owned it since new, always used 0w20, and changed the oil every 3500 miles. Im at 67,000 miles now. The oil has always stunk of gasoline, so a few days ago I switched to liqui moly 5w30 just to see. Its summer time now, and im curious if 5w30 will be ok to use. In the rest of the world their owners manuals say its ok to use 0w20, 0w30, or 5w30 , with most people I know in the UK , Ireland, etc using 5w30 since the first oil change in their 1.5 turbos.
5w30 stopped my hemi tick on an 80,000 mile engine. I will never trust thin oils
What year is yours? Do you have MDS? I want to switch from 5-20 to 5-30 but I’ve heard the check engine light comes on because the mds is designed to run on 5-20. I’ve got a 20 ram 1500.
@@jwhmerica504this is true the hemi kind of tells on you if you use a thicker oil lol
@jwhmerica504 ram pcu programmed to alert owner when pressure goes up due to thicker oil or pressure goes down due to less restrictive oil filter, not much of pressure difference computer allows. It’s just programming
& that's why you add "LUCAS!"... From 0w-16 back to 5w-36, aha!☝️😄
Bad idea
@@repairvehicle test it(the original not synthetic garbage), good stuff actually 😉
@@dmironyuk if it’s good stuff then Lucas would have test results on their website, but there’s none. Lucas knows that you show people facts they will not be buying it.
@@repairvehicleoh c'mon, that's why we have you to show us facts.
You also are lowering the ppm of the oil detergents and friction modifiers, by adding anything to your oil
I've been working on cars for over 50 years, and what I was taught from day one was the thicker the oil the better protection for your engine. However today's engines cannot handle the 10w40 oils of yesteryear, but I wonder how well a 0w-20 or a 0w-16 can protect an engine over time.
300k miles without problems, remember quality is what protects not thickness
My chevy 6.2 burns 0/20.....would 5/30 burn less?
It depends on oil quality you use
What brand of oil are you using now and how do you change?
Amsoil 0w20 still better than supertech 5w30😂
In what vehicle are you running amsoil 0w-20?
@@repairvehicle I mean supertech is one of the cheapest oil while Amsoil is one of the top oil, so I believe even 0w20 Amsoil can protect engine better than 5w30 cheap supertech.
Does port injection also have this issue or is it just direct injection?
This is a direct injection problem. Port injection runs on much lower fuel pressure.
What should i do if i’m from Saudi Arabia with 50C+ temperatures
And my 5.3 gmc have crossed 130,000
KM ?
I’m currently using amsoil SS 0w20
And I change every 10,000KM
What year is gmc?
@@repairvehicle 2022 l84 5.3
I mostly travel by road 400KM+ weekly
+ in winter i go offroad and have fun a lot (high RPMs)
0W-20 or 5W-30 for hot climates? Why both viscosity rated for hot climates?
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So should in switch to 5w30 over 0w20
What do you have
@@repairvehicle 2015 camry
It depends how often you change your oil and how much you drive per year. Also, what mileage on it?
@@repairvehicle i change it mostly at 5k miles and i drive like 20k miles a year. The mileage on the car is 148k miles
@emadalkahroosi you are changing oil every 3 months roughly?
To about 1980's car manufacturers were actually trying to make cars last longer. Then they started with "lifetime" tranny fluid, high oil change interval, low viscosity oil, etc..
My 2017 honda 1.8 engine burned lots of oil with 5w20. Changed to 5w30 and no issues... same with Many other vehicles..
I also use lucas oil stabizer to eliminate blowby as needed..
Biggest automotive myth: that the car manual is nessessarily the best advice..
Poor maintenance is the consequence of burning oil with 5w-20, it wasn’t burning oil when it was brand new
@@repairvehicle we got the car at 20,000 km...
How often were you changing oil?
@@repairvehicle 5000 km. Plenty of filters and oil in stock..
These this oils are crap.. a half a percentage in fuel economy at the expense of oil dilution, etc..
5k too long on the oil that is not even synthetic
So I believe and well known that the more you use the oil it's thinking until it becomes a sludge.
Fuel dilution for a healthy GDI engine should be 1% maximum.
All dilution and thickening problems won't happen at 10k km I believe.
I think going thinner is the right way nowadays at least 0W-20
Where did you get idea of maximum 1%?
@repairvehicle I saw plenty of oil analyses on RUclips most of them are between 0%-1% and a maximum of 2% on average.
Also, almost all of them stayed in grade.
+ All of them have analyzed at least 5k km or higher.
So I think an oil change between 8k-10k is a safe range.
@othman0077 send me link for these oil analysis?
Send me a link where oem and or oil companies says 1% max for healthy gdi. What year is that bmw, how many mile on oil does it show fuel dilution %?
@@repairvehicle I am talking from my perspective, so feel free to agree or disagree.
Your 100 % right. Not too mention they went with this 0W20 to help increase mpg as well. However, the engines tolerances aren't made for 0W20 either. Anything for higher mpg