Saying that the new STI is a "one trick pony" is beyond silly. A Jaguar F-type or a Mercedes AMG GT are one trick ponies. This thing is extremely spacious inside with a terrific visibility compared to anything these days, has very comfortable seats, a massive trunk with folding rear seats, etc. In other words, it's a perfectly practical vehicle to have as your one and only car, not to mention that its AWD makes it highly desirable if you are in a part of the world where you get a bit more than just dry and rainy weather. And no, you don't have to drive it on the side roads to enjoy it thoroughly. I drove one recently in the city over plenty of bumps and the suspension is nowhere near as harsh as some reviewers make it out to be. It is simply communicative. It will not break your back, it will just make you feel that you're driving and it will keep you nice and flat at all times. It is a straightforward, honest sports sedan that focuses on performance and driving experience rather than luxury, quietness, and fuel economy. So the fact that you get a fairly hardcore track-ready car while still having all the practicality of a regular sedan is the exact opposite of the (rather tired) point you are trying to make about it.
true! also people get high 20's mpg when driven normally. also milage depends on distance and weather condition. the engine will burn up 30% more fuel if below starting temp. noise can be fixed with dampening material. my sister has a Lexus gs and its awd. if the interior was like this subie the car still be around 50k. people hate on Subaru..but the company truly cares about its followers and are not baiting them because of its history and heritage but use it as endurance that they have put allot of their heart and knowledge into it. Subaru is awesome and so are their products.
true! also people get high 20's mpg when driven normally. also milage depends on distance and weather condition. the engine will burn up 30% more fuel if below starting temp. noise can be fixed with dampening material. my sister has a Lexus gs and its awd. if the interior was like this subie the car still be around 50k. people hate on Subaru..but the company truly cares about its followers and are not baiting them because of its history and heritage but use it as endurance that they have put allot of their heart and knowledge into it. Subaru is awesome and so are their products.
So sick of hearing reviewers knock this car for its firm ride, I am sure if Subaru wanted to make the suspension more like a Camry they would have, but guess what? its not a Camry, its a performance sedan. Its like knocking a Camry because it doesn't corner well in the wet at 100km/h. The whole Golf R thing is getting tiring, great car but stop comparing it to an STI.
siXis If public road racing justifies your crumbling ego than you shouldn't sit at a wheel in a first place. I've seen my share of assholes on road who rev engines, make hand signs, and are always ready for a red light launch competition. All I do in such a situation is shake my head and face palm.
MaxFlare Oh, how so very mature of you. Do you then drive off in your Prius to pottery classes, whilst wearing a turtle neck jumper and drinking a soy decaf latte?
Ruairi Toale - The ones who put the Golf R on a pedestal are the euro-worshippers, who usually happen to be euro-cunts. The WRX is a legend for a reason and that reason is that it has earned the respect from years of capability.
Ive driven Golf R through my old job in the motor trade. I liked the manual version better than DSG and its a quick car but in the UK it has a bad image, often driven by dodgy blokes up to no good. They get stolen a lot as well. I wouldn’t ever buy one for those reasons. Also, that fake noise in sport mode, it becomes very tedious after a while. Subaru noise is not faked, its just a great boxer engine sound.
Subaru is the fastest growing car manufacture in the US. There are backorders of over 2-3 months at times. I have a 2015 WRX and the car is a dream - 268hp, over 30mpg on the highway (25 mpg when doing high reeving and racing through the mountain passes) and 0-60 in 5 seconds. Sure the car is a bit stiff and the road noise is a little loud but the car is rated a best buy in the US and has received many awards for a reason. Also the cars are not called "Impreza" anymore...
+dcx I agree with you after test driving one re comfortable and fun to drive. I think in the context of the cars on the market though he does have a point, this is uncomfortable in comparison, but that's a negative as most cars are so boring...if all manufacturers continue to be influenced by the German brands then no new affordable cars will be fun. For the record, I thought the 2015 Sti could afford to be more raw than it is, the 2008-2014 model sounds louder/better. The saloon body letter-box opening for the boot that prevents you from storing bikes in the boot puts me off though, give me a hatchback any day.
I don't agree with his interior comments. Nor his ridiculous comments at the end of the video. He obviously has a bios against the WRX/STI. Yes, it's not a BMW interior, but I love my 2016 (slight upgrade from the 2015 model). The interior is a vast improvement from the 2008-2014 models. The seats feel great, how the steering wheel feels and there are much more soft surfaces that before. Are there rooms for improvement - yes, but overall - Good Job Subaru !
oh yeah 100 percent agree. i own a 2002 wrx sti and the interior is the only thing i HATE about my car. i wish it looked like it was a 52,000$ car but i looks like a mx5 interior. but then again the interior of the 2002 feels like a Japanese car and gives it a classic feel.
Why did you choose a track car STi and then bi tch about the ride quality? If you want comfort and less lag, try the normal WRX. Seriously, unless you are going to track it often, skip the STI and get the WRX. Cheaper, more comfort and 90 percent of the performance. At the end, you said that for the same money as STI you could get something more comfy. Well, STI is for PRFORMANCE. It will beat up on cars costing twice as much or more. YOU DID NOT NEED TO DO THIS REVIEW. Go review a Corolla.
I have a 2015 STI and I agree with almost everything he said, pros and cons. But I love mine and clearly I am not the only one. In America the STI is in the highest demand. Tied with the new Mustang. Both spend a average of six days in showrooms before being sold.
Hakop Agazaryan Actually Subaru has not been able to keep with demand on the STi either. When I bought my 2015 STi, the waiting list was 6 months. The closest 2015 STi was 600 miles away from where I live.
larva2112 the numbers are the for the wrx. Also where i live, the dealers had sti everywhere but couldn't keep wrx's on the lot. That's how its been at most places
Hakop Agazaryan I've heard it's the case for both the WRX and the STI although both seem to be flying off the showroom floor faster than I can keep track of. Every time I've gone in for an oil change or maintenance bit, they seem to have a new STI in there... so I know it's not sticking around for long...
WTF the STI gearbox is one of the best notchiest gearboxes I have ever tested. Its like a bolt action rifle. The sensation of this car is immense. Dont listen to this oaf.
the new STI hits Turbo at 3200 RPMs because it's so huge, and it's a short shifter. It's meant for performance. The WRX (One step down), has turbo kick in around 2K RPMs and has a smoother, longer shifter. Which is kind of boss as hell.
Stiff ride, its a road rally capable car out the factory, what more can you expect, the interior is by far the best in any STI generation and they have really stepped up their interiors.
we are human not a robot..we talk with the machine via throttle and manual knob..its like very enjoy.......no need to spend many time with gadget etc inside the car..very practically for driver enthusiast........
gotta take exception to some of his comments...loud and uncomfortable? Good God man, if you want a soft ride take the limo. I took a ride in my old subaru today, a 91 wagon with upgraded everything. 89 db in the cabin at cruise with windows up and that seems quiet to me. LMFAO
If it aint broke, don't fix it. Your average joe isn't buying this car because it's a great family car. It's a damn Subaru. If you want a supple drive, look elsewhere. It's a niche. And imho, it has changed. It looks more modern, but with that subaru recipe. I love it.
OK, a Britt talking about comfort, PLEASE!!!! they are so PRO EURO that they think the "cabin" is much nicer in an AUDI. Come to America my friend and we can tell you about a nice cabin. I drove an Audi and the STI and I am older than you are and the STI cabin is the reason why I chose the Subaru over it's Euro counterpart. I like sitting in seats not surf boards. There is no comparison. For a sports car, the STI is much more comfortable PERIOD
Look at all the BUTT HURT Subi fans. He review is on point you fan boys love this car so much you ignore it short coming. Its not a race car you have to drive it home and in normal settings at some point. it sucks under those circumstances
Think about it . Years ago when the Ford siererra coswerth was around it had a massive Garrat turbo and now with the new turbo cars like the Subaru's and evos , they use TD04 turbos which are a lot smaller than the garret Turbos and a lot less reliable. What I'm trying to say is if they put some garret turbos on the cars. Obviously Subaru would have to forge the Block but they do that anyway on the sti's
KingOfCarnage think about what you just said... in a mass market appeal... where you have to tune the car for everything from people who have 91 octane to 93 octane and variants of that .... and then trying to make a reliable turbo for a car that is probably going to be beat like a red headed step child... Also they have to comply with the EPA and because they're not a domestic manufacturer, they have to comply with importing regulations as well... so... just enjoy them for what they are and the ease of use
Saying that the new STI is a "one trick pony" is beyond silly. A Jaguar F-type or a Mercedes AMG GT are one trick ponies. This thing is extremely spacious inside with a terrific visibility compared to anything these days, has very comfortable seats, a massive trunk with folding rear seats, etc. In other words, it's a perfectly practical vehicle to have as your one and only car, not to mention that its AWD makes it highly desirable if you are in a part of the world where you get a bit more than just dry and rainy weather. And no, you don't have to drive it on the side roads to enjoy it thoroughly. I drove one recently in the city over plenty of bumps and the suspension is nowhere near as harsh as some reviewers make it out to be. It is simply communicative. It will not break your back, it will just make you feel that you're driving and it will keep you nice and flat at all times. It is a straightforward, honest sports sedan that focuses on performance and driving experience rather than luxury, quietness, and fuel economy. So the fact that you get a fairly hardcore track-ready car while still having all the practicality of a regular sedan is the exact opposite of the (rather tired) point you are trying to make about it.
well said
well said
Agreed.
true! also people get high 20's mpg when driven normally. also milage depends on distance and weather condition. the engine will burn up 30% more fuel if below starting temp. noise can be fixed with dampening material. my sister has a Lexus gs and its awd. if the interior was like this subie the car still be around 50k. people hate on Subaru..but the company truly cares about its followers and are not baiting them because of its history and heritage but use it as endurance that they have put allot of their heart and knowledge into it. Subaru is awesome and so are their products.
true! also people get high 20's mpg when driven normally. also milage depends on distance and weather condition. the engine will burn up 30% more fuel if below starting temp. noise can be fixed with dampening material. my sister has a Lexus gs and its awd. if the interior was like this subie the car still be around 50k. people hate on Subaru..but the company truly cares about its followers and are not baiting them because of its history and heritage but use it as endurance that they have put allot of their heart and knowledge into it. Subaru is awesome and so are their products.
So sick of hearing reviewers knock this car for its firm ride, I am sure if Subaru wanted to make the suspension more like a Camry they would have, but guess what? its not a Camry, its a performance sedan. Its like knocking a Camry because it doesn't corner well in the wet at 100km/h. The whole Golf R thing is getting tiring, great car but stop comparing it to an STI.
siXis If public road racing justifies your crumbling ego than you shouldn't sit at a wheel in a first place. I've seen my share of assholes on road who rev engines, make hand signs, and are always ready for a red light launch competition. All I do in such a situation is shake my head and face palm.
MaxFlare Oh, how so very mature of you. Do you then drive off in your Prius to pottery classes, whilst wearing a turtle neck jumper and drinking a soy decaf latte?
Ruairi Toale - The ones who put the Golf R on a pedestal are the euro-worshippers, who usually happen to be euro-cunts. The WRX is a legend for a reason and that reason is that it has earned the respect from years of capability.
Ive driven Golf R through my old job in the motor trade. I liked the manual version better than DSG and its a quick car but in the UK it has a bad image, often driven by dodgy blokes up to no good. They get stolen a lot as well. I wouldn’t ever buy one for those reasons. Also, that fake noise in sport mode, it becomes very tedious after a while. Subaru noise is not faked, its just a great boxer engine sound.
Subaru is the fastest growing car manufacture in the US. There are backorders of over 2-3 months at times. I have a 2015 WRX and the car is a dream - 268hp, over 30mpg on the highway (25 mpg when doing high reeving and racing through the mountain passes) and 0-60 in 5 seconds. Sure the car is a bit stiff and the road noise is a little loud but the car is rated a best buy in the US and has received many awards for a reason. Also the cars are not called "Impreza" anymore...
This man only should do Fiesta, Polo, Prius, Rio ect...reviews! I Am sure, he would love them!
Drove an STI yesterday.Its comfortable and a blast to drive.Don't believe a story coming from an old man in this video.
+dcx I agree with you after test driving one re comfortable and fun to drive.
I think in the context of the cars on the market though he does have a point, this is uncomfortable in comparison, but that's a negative as most cars are so boring...if all manufacturers continue to be influenced by the German brands then no new affordable cars will be fun.
For the record, I thought the 2015 Sti could afford to be more raw than it is, the 2008-2014 model sounds louder/better.
The saloon body letter-box opening for the boot that prevents you from storing bikes in the boot puts me off though, give me a hatchback any day.
Old man how old do you call an old man ? I must be OAP at 46
I don't agree with his interior comments. Nor his ridiculous comments at the end of the video. He obviously has a bios against the WRX/STI. Yes, it's not a BMW interior, but I love my 2016 (slight upgrade from the 2015 model). The interior is a vast improvement from the 2008-2014 models. The seats feel great, how the steering wheel feels and there are much more soft surfaces that before. Are there rooms for improvement - yes, but overall - Good Job Subaru !
oh yeah 100 percent agree. i own a 2002 wrx sti and the interior is the only thing i HATE about my car. i wish it looked like it was a 52,000$ car but i looks like a mx5 interior. but then again the interior of the 2002 feels like a Japanese car and gives it a classic feel.
Why did you choose a track car STi and then bi tch about the ride quality? If you want comfort and less lag, try the normal WRX. Seriously, unless you are going to track it often, skip the STI and get the WRX. Cheaper, more comfort and 90 percent of the performance. At the end, you said that for the same money as STI you could get something more comfy. Well, STI is for PRFORMANCE. It will beat up on cars costing twice as much or more. YOU DID NOT NEED TO DO THIS REVIEW. Go review a Corolla.
+Patrick Ford We don't get the WRX version of this model in the UK unfortunately...
The wheels on this car are so fire
I have a 2015 STI and I agree with almost everything he said, pros and cons. But I love mine and clearly I am not the only one.
In America the STI is in the highest demand. Tied with the new Mustang. Both spend a average of six days in showrooms before being sold.
Its the wrx, not the sti, that is selling extremely quick. It's mostly due to the new engine and lower price
Hakop Agazaryan Actually Subaru has not been able to keep with demand on the STi either. When I bought my 2015 STi, the waiting list was 6 months. The closest 2015 STi was 600 miles away from where I live.
larva2112 the numbers are the for the wrx. Also where i live, the dealers had sti everywhere but couldn't keep wrx's on the lot. That's how its been at most places
Hakop Agazaryan I've heard it's the case for both the WRX and the STI although both seem to be flying off the showroom floor faster than I can keep track of. Every time I've gone in for an oil change or maintenance bit, they seem to have a new STI in there... so I know it's not sticking around for long...
R U kidding I waited 6 months to get my STI
WTF the STI gearbox is one of the best notchiest gearboxes I have ever tested. Its like a bolt action rifle. The sensation of this car is immense. Dont listen to this oaf.
It's a good thing that most people buying this car will throw an exhaust on it to hear the boxer rumble. They will probably add coilovers as well.
the new STI hits Turbo at 3200 RPMs because it's so huge, and it's a short shifter. It's meant for performance. The WRX (One step down), has turbo kick in around 2K RPMs and has a smoother, longer shifter. Which is kind of boss as hell.
Abendschein mine is a 2014 and it kicks in around 2300rpms.
Stiff ride, its a road rally capable car out the factory, what more can you expect, the interior is by far the best in any STI generation and they have really stepped up their interiors.
i slightly panicked when he got in on the wrong side of the car...
I feel like hearing the phrase "you shouldn't meet your heroes" all the time in car videos. I think more recently in a xcar video!
Nice video btw
Very honest review by Andy Pringle... refreshing and on point: if you can commit to the gear lever trashing then have the damn thing! ;)
I am of the opinion that the sti died when subaru moved in from the hawkeye. Therefore I think this video is spot on.
He has no idea what he is talking about. Great car
we are human not a robot..we talk with the machine via throttle and manual knob..its like very enjoy.......no need to spend many time with gadget etc inside the car..very practically for driver enthusiast........
Uh - Subaru is in WRC? They dominated the last two seasons in NA, and are making their bid for World.
Its in my blood and I can't take this thing out and I am 50 years old.
Yes I drive more comfortable cars but nothing comes close to my subaru STi.
Great car
"These are exactly the same cars my brother and I used to race on our Scalextric".....seriously?....
The sad thing is he is so right. Nothing proves that more than the Golf R and forthcoming Focus RS.
I still love the scooby though.
gotta take exception to some of his comments...loud and uncomfortable? Good God man, if you want a soft ride take the limo. I took a ride in my old subaru today, a 91 wagon with upgraded everything. 89 db in the cabin at cruise with windows up and that seems quiet to me. LMFAO
Yeah, I suggest Rolls Royce or Bentley for him.
Go back to your Vauxhall mate
If it aint broke, don't fix it. Your average joe isn't buying this car because it's a great family car. It's a damn Subaru. If you want a supple drive, look elsewhere. It's a niche. And imho, it has changed. It looks more modern, but with that subaru recipe. I love it.
OK, a Britt talking about comfort, PLEASE!!!! they are so PRO EURO that they think the "cabin" is much nicer in an AUDI.
Come to America my friend and we can tell you about a nice cabin. I drove an Audi and the STI and I am older than you are and the STI cabin is the reason why I chose the Subaru over it's Euro counterpart. I like sitting in seats not surf boards. There is no comparison. For a sports car, the STI is much more comfortable PERIOD
is this the 2016 model ?
No. I don't think so. 2016 model having larger display & better MFD. This is 2015 model.
Was that "master of puppets" i saw on the radio? 👍
' i confess i'm given to the occasional bought of hand fisted over exuberance '.. i thought this was a car review..
of course it looks and feel a bit cheaper. It's not a $55K C class. It's an STI. It's a boy racer car, not a JP Morgan Analyst car.
Next time you go to test drive in the Peak district pick me up. I've got things to say :))
Look at all the BUTT HURT Subi fans. He review is on point you fan boys love this car so much you ignore it short coming. Its not a race car you have to drive it home and in normal settings at some point. it sucks under those circumstances
The Isle of Man tt car was not even close to standard
Now which isle of man STI?
James Unwin wŵkYy6''
8:22 METALLICA
+rdnr90 rdnr90 What else would you listen to while tearing through those twisties?
I swear there is some form of bias towards Japanese performance cars by UK critics.
When are car companies going to stop bolting little Micky Mouse turbo chargers to their "rally ledgend" cars ?
Think about it . Years ago when the Ford siererra coswerth was around it had a massive Garrat turbo and now with the new turbo cars like the Subaru's and evos , they use TD04 turbos which are a lot smaller than the garret Turbos and a lot less reliable. What I'm trying to say is if they put some garret turbos on the cars. Obviously Subaru would have to forge the Block but they do that anyway on the sti's
KingOfCarnage think about what you just said... in a mass market appeal... where you have to tune the car for everything from people who have 91 octane to 93 octane and variants of that .... and then trying to make a reliable turbo for a car that is probably going to be beat like a red headed step child...
Also they have to comply with the EPA and because they're not a domestic manufacturer, they have to comply with importing regulations as well... so... just enjoy them for what they are and the ease of use
Fair point
KingOfCarnage
2015 wrx's use garrets not too sure about the sti though
Wrx uses TDO4 turbo's and STI'S use TDO5'S.
Solid motor and chassis... Just cant get over how god damn ugly it is😞