Best to worst 1: OG Beta 57: Superb high end clarity 2: V7X: Similar Highs to the OG beta 57 + more lows (also it costs 99 bucks) 3: Beta 56: Nice high mids, captures a good crack out of the snare 4: Transformerless 57: Very natural and open Sounding, second best low budget option IMO 5: SM58: Really like this one in the full mix, more in your face than the standard 57 6: SM57: Just classic, grainy top end 7: SM7B: Really flat overall, not my favorite, definetly a sound to apply EQ later 8: Beta 57a: Sounds good by itself, didn't love it in the full mix. Definitely my less favorite of the bunch, and a downgrade from the original, lol Great video BTW
My fav too. But you have to consider the V7X is giving a more open snare sound too. I have actually been favoring the V7X for good hihat rejection. And/or a pleasing hihat sound.
Love the no Bullshit comparison! Right to the chase and let your ears decide man!!! You've got a niche' right there! Shut up and listen. I'm a stringsmen that hears the difference in dynamic range and true sound from the drums an bass. It's simple, that foundation is where all else stands. Do more mic's man! Do all of them. I look for the raw comparison straight up... the color from there is not my job. They'll come... everybody will click and share as a reference. True talent just wants to here the sound comparison. When the Wah Wah'ers start and the bling gets too shiny to see ... my right pleasure finger starts a twitching cause its a waste of time if it's off target. Good job!
I think I preferred the sm58 best in this test. If you look at the position difference between the sm58 and sm57 you will notice the 57 is closer and pointed more at the rim whereas the 58 is a little further and pointed more towards the center of the snare. They are essentially the same microphone but the difference of position and natural variance between 2 different mics of basically the same model besides the capsule I think is contributing towards a sound difference (in the sm58's favor). The sm57 is the classic snare mic and I think if it was positioned more like the sm58 it would have fared better.
The two sound very different. They are very similar in design, but compare them yourself and you’ll be surprised that they are much more different than Shure says they are
I wonder how you're capable of assessing the positions of the mics from this kind of a camera angle. I'm all for minimizing variables, but I just don't see a variance in position based on this angle. I do however know the 2 mics do sound different, even if the only difference they have is the grille and pop shield foam. Grille and pop shield foam design is a science of its own, and it has a clear effect on the sound. If a vocalist can handle controlling their plosives, handing them an sm57 is actually a pretty good idea.
hi great video. I’ve a question, I found an old Beta 57 vintage, and removing the grill I found that the foam was partially attached to the grill and partially on the capsule. The part of the grill was like ash, so I removed. I would like to know if originally the foam is both on the grille and the capsule or only on the capsule
I still don't understand why anyone would modify the SM57 by taking out the transformer. I tend to trust the fine engineers over at Shure Bros Inc. For ensuring that the 57 is made correctly. It works.
@@jackgoff4859 To each his own. I've heard the mod SM57 and don't think it sounds better. I think it sounds worse. Plus my favorite super famous producers and engineers don't mod them. This is my opinion of course.
57A for me but I'm partial . . . . I have a wireless 57A and I dropped it out of the window 3 floors and thought SHURE-ly this thing is dead or at least all fucked up sounding ! cracked ?? Not a scratch , just a almost un-noticeable dent in the grill and for all I know it might have been made that way
Whole things proves to me that once a certain quality is sustained it really doesn't make a difference. More importantly would be placement. My thoughts are now not to aim the mic to near the rim to get a less ringy sound. Next level up in recording maybe but at most used situations its pointless...Actually like the v7x isolated but once the kit is in its negated completely. I've been a live sound guy for 15 years and my point is more pronounced there but now I'm recording more I'm finding these things make little difference in common situs....Thought my 56 beta would be nice on snare but most snares these days are ringy as fuck so what's the point! Thinking about a SE v tom mike for low toms as my 604,s just cant handle the low end... ps: I like ringy snares when they came in fashion but now I think its a bit tedious and overused.. Great vid by the way thanks you've made my suspicions clearer...
All microphones sound decent! first place: (drum kit) SM 58, SM 57 Transformerless, sm56a - the last microphone gives no extraneous noise! second place: Beta 57 (Vintage), SM7b, SE V7X, SM57 - These microphones sound better when played across the entire setup than individually. Especially noticeable: SM7b, SE V7X, sm57 also sounds no worse than 57 Transformerless - in my opinion, of course. Separately on a snare drum: SE V7X - didn't like Shure SM57 - didn't like
Interesting how everyone has a different favorite. OG Beta 57 for me
Best to worst
1: OG Beta 57: Superb high end clarity
2: V7X: Similar Highs to the OG beta 57 + more lows (also it costs 99 bucks)
3: Beta 56: Nice high mids, captures a good crack out of the snare
4: Transformerless 57: Very natural and open Sounding, second best low budget option IMO
5: SM58: Really like this one in the full mix, more in your face than the standard 57
6: SM57: Just classic, grainy top end
7: SM7B: Really flat overall, not my favorite, definetly a sound to apply EQ later
8: Beta 57a: Sounds good by itself, didn't love it in the full mix. Definitely my less favorite of the bunch, and a downgrade from the original, lol
Great video BTW
That OG was real nice. I bet the 58 would sound even better if he removed the foam layer from inside the grill cover.
I just picked up an OG Beta 57 for my snare, can’t wait to hear it
Thanks for the consistent playing and gain!! Fantastic to hear the characteristics of very mic! Also the mixes you do for Alex are FIRE!!
My fav is the V7X, but the bleed is noticeably more intense.
My fav too. But you have to consider the V7X is giving a more open snare sound too. I have actually been favoring the V7X for good hihat rejection. And/or a pleasing hihat sound.
56a and 57a are my favorites, in that order, but I have to say that all of these mics sound pretty good...
Timestamps
snare mic solo
0:05 Shure SM57
0:22 Shure SM57 Transformerless
0:38 Shure SM58
0:54 Shure Beta 57 (Vintage)
1:10 Shure Beta 57a
1:26 Shure Beta 56a
1:42 Shure SM7b
1:58 SE V7X
Full kit
2:19 Shure SM57
2:36 Shure SM57 Transformerless
2:52 Shure SM58
3:08 Shure Beta 57 (Vintage)
3:24 Shure Beta 57a
3:40 Shure Beta 56a
3:56 Shure SM7b
4:12 SE V7X
Love the no Bullshit comparison! Right to the chase and let your ears decide man!!!
You've got a niche' right there! Shut up and listen. I'm a stringsmen that hears the difference in dynamic range and true sound from the drums an bass. It's simple, that foundation is where all else stands. Do more mic's man! Do all of them. I look for the raw comparison straight up... the color from there is not my job. They'll come... everybody will click and share as a reference. True talent just wants to here the sound comparison. When the Wah Wah'ers start and the bling gets too shiny to see ... my right pleasure finger starts a twitching cause its a waste of time if it's off target. Good job!
Great drumming. Really good groove.
Woah the OG beta57a has that condenser like top end, similar to the v7x. But the bleed is REAL
brighter mic = brighter bleed!
thanks for commenting, friend!
Is that necessarily the best type of bleed?
You're welcome mate! Keep up the good work.
I like the bleed . . . .
You know you're hittin it right if it's fuckin bleedin :)
I think I preferred the sm58 best in this test. If you look at the position difference between the sm58 and sm57 you will notice the 57 is closer and pointed more at the rim whereas the 58 is a little further and pointed more towards the center of the snare. They are essentially the same microphone but the difference of position and natural variance between 2 different mics of basically the same model besides the capsule I think is contributing towards a sound difference (in the sm58's favor). The sm57 is the classic snare mic and I think if it was positioned more like the sm58 it would have fared better.
The two sound very different. They are very similar in design, but compare them yourself and you’ll be surprised that they are much more different than Shure says they are
I wonder how you're capable of assessing the positions of the mics from this kind of a camera angle. I'm all for minimizing variables, but I just don't see a variance in position based on this angle. I do however know the 2 mics do sound different, even if the only difference they have is the grille and pop shield foam. Grille and pop shield foam design is a science of its own, and it has a clear effect on the sound. If a vocalist can handle controlling their plosives, handing them an sm57 is actually a pretty good idea.
hi great video. I’ve a question, I found an old Beta 57 vintage, and removing the grill I found that the foam was partially attached to the grill and partially on the capsule. The part of the grill was like ash, so I removed. I would like to know if originally the foam is both on the grille and the capsule or only on the capsule
OG beta 57 for the win.
56a or se v7x for me
Sm57 is still my favorite!
That snare. . .
I still don't understand why anyone would modify the SM57 by taking out the transformer. I tend to trust the fine engineers over at Shure Bros Inc. For ensuring that the 57 is made correctly. It works.
I was wondering the same, and instead of commenting that I don't understand, I googled it and found out why.
@@jackgoff4859 To each his own. I've heard the mod SM57 and don't think it sounds better. I think it sounds worse. Plus my favorite super famous producers and engineers don't mod them. This is my opinion of course.
Jack the Jerk.. off.
@0:06 SM57
@0:43 SM7b (flat)
57A for me but I'm partial . . . . I have a wireless 57A and I dropped it out of the window 3 floors and thought SHURE-ly this thing is dead or at least all fucked up sounding ! cracked ?? Not a scratch , just a almost un-noticeable dent in the grill and for all I know it might have been made that way
SM57 100%
Beyer Dynamic M201.....?
didnt have one at the time. check my other video that has it
Whole things proves to me that once a certain quality is sustained it really doesn't make a difference. More importantly would be placement. My thoughts are now not to aim the mic to near the rim to get a less ringy sound. Next level up in recording maybe but at most used situations its pointless...Actually like the v7x isolated but once the kit is in its negated completely. I've been a live sound guy for 15 years and my point is more pronounced there but now I'm recording more I'm finding these things make little difference in common situs....Thought my 56 beta would be nice on snare but most snares these days are ringy as fuck so what's the point! Thinking about a SE v tom mike for low toms as my 604,s just cant handle the low end...
ps: I like ringy snares when they came in fashion but now I think its a bit tedious and overused..
Great vid by the way thanks you've made my suspicions clearer...
All microphones sound decent!
first place: (drum kit)
SM 58, SM 57 Transformerless, sm56a - the last microphone gives no extraneous noise!
second place: Beta 57 (Vintage), SM7b, SE V7X, SM57 - These microphones sound better when played across the entire setup than individually. Especially noticeable: SM7b, SE V7X, sm57 also sounds no worse than 57 Transformerless - in my opinion, of course.
Separately on a snare drum:
SE V7X - didn't like
Shure SM57 - didn't like