I honestly don't think you can, although I caution I haven't ridden the CF Moto. I could ride this around the world tomorrow, all set up ready to go for under $10K, WTF! Serious competition for the Honda CRF300 that we know needs a minimum of suspension work. What else is out there that comes near this price.....?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I feel like they are two sides of the same coin, RE being offroad oriented, and CFmoto being more touring/road oriented, exactly as you said. Tubeless wheels for me are a really good selling point tho, as I sometimes get punctures even 2x a day on solo riding through distant places (didn't invest in luck stats enough I guess). Nice video and observation, Cheers
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes, as much as I love my Himmy, this new model has pretty much everything I wanted in my current bike. It will be more suited to my style of riding here in South Island, New Zealand
I currently have a BMW 1200RT - bloody awesome touring bike. Not being a dirt bike rider - doing an intro ADV course tomorrow, I am beginning to look for a lightweight/mid adventure bike to get out on those dirt roads and tracks I currently have to stop at……. Looked at the BMW 310 and the Honda CRF 300 Rally and now you show us the Royal Enfield 450 which plugs all the compromises of the 2 previous bikes and within an amazing budget. I love the Australian reviews and MAD TV especially. I have viewed the reviews from other countries and they ride like they are in their lounge room, Perfect tarmac and flat smooth dirt roads and 2 track is a driveway. In good OLD OZ you guys ride them like you stole them on and off road. Off road being real off road gnarly tracks, mountains, rivers blah blah - give it to em …. ect - just love it. This 450 Royal Enfield ticks pretty much all of the boxes on my wish list - Looks like Royal Enfield have nailed it with this model hitting that perfect market segment.
Test rode one last week in the UK. Unbelievable bike, handling on road was great, flat footed at 5ft 10". Felt more than 40HP. RE have done a great job.
I was at an adventure bike rally in the US much of last week and through the weekend. I was excited to see that RE was going to be on site with demo bikes, but I was REALLY disappointed that they only had the 411 because of how excited I am to try this bike. Now, after this video, I'm looking forward to it even more! Thanks for the great content!
Congrats to Himalayam engeneering team! They acoumplish one of the most sucessfull transition in the motorcycle industry history! Himalayam 401 is a great success and the new 452 honored its qualities and traditions and brought a brand new world to adventure bikers! Cheers!
Great review Dave. I've owned 3 enfeilds and have ridden the old himmy . One thing I can say about the enfeild brand is that the gearbox is solid. You never find false neutrals. I'm hoping the test of time proves these engines to be solid and reliable. I'm on a Suzuki Dr page almost every week somone is dealing with a blown gearbox. I see itchy boots changed out a counter shaft at 40,000 k. On her Honda 300 I wouldn't be surprised if we see these enfeilds becoming the workhorse motorcycle of the wourld. The new himmy has a face only a mother could love IMO.
I bought brand new 411 last September and only kept it for 3 months before I sold it on. This new 450 looks like it has everything I wanted from the old one, more power, some tech, decent suspension. I still ride ride my old DR350 which I absolutely love, however I can actually see the 450 being my only do it all bike. Cannot wait to test ride one later on this month. Great video btw 👍🏻
Hello from France ! I tried it 2 days ago and decided to pre-order mine. Kamet White color with tubeless tires but I have to wait until June/July to get it... This give me time to sell my current bike by then. 😄
Finally find an upload of the RE on the dirt roads that im primarily riding now that im 63YO. Currently running a 2008 XT250 that even though ive moded the air/carb/exhaust its just not quite ballsy enough. Ive got an 83 XR650L but im all jacked up and cant kick it any more. I just kinda like the style and ethics behind this company. Great upload! thanks from Arkansas USA!
Kiwi here, I'm seriously considering getting one of these as my very first bike. I didn't even consider an ADV when I started my research, but in countries like Oz and NZ I feel like you're removing half the potential roads you can ride if you stick to bikes made for asphalt only. The CRF Rally was the first one that caught my attention, but the Himalayan wins by almost every metric on paper.
I'm on my 3rd RE. Had the original Himalayan but ultimately traded it for a 250 Rally as it was just that little bit too slow and the ground clearance was no good for rutted british green lanes. Got a 650 Shotgun which I'm currently in love with... this looks like a possible stable mate!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV This is the result when a company puts faith in people that live the product instead of bean counters. Looks like he and his team deserve the success!
Good review, again. My take-away was that this model is better value-for-money than it has ever been. It sounds like a set of barkbusters and some better tyres will defo get a lot of newbies and/or more "relaxed" riders out on adventures. Can't be a bad thing!👍
A ‘21 Himalayan was my first motorbike & I’m now on a ‘15 BMW 650GS Sertao. Always thought I’d naturally move to a bigger bike & go toward a T7 or ktm890 etc once I got off the restricted license but I’m giving some serious thought now to going back to the 450 Himalayan after the assessment you & Clubby have made…guess I’ll have to test ride one. Cheers Dave
@@thedougies8322 totally agree.And bulletproof for sure.But my is 24 years now,no ABS.After long rides I get numb hands.So I really interested to compare.Bmw 60nm power is still impressive.
You’ve sold me… This will be my next bike!! It has everything going for it as a rider who is getting the taste for adventure riding. Can’t wait to test ride one! And it’s bloody beautiful!!!!!
Great to hear the chief designer talking about the bike he helped design… I love this bike and will definitely test ride one … and possibly buy one as my do it all steed .. great vid mate ! 👊 uk 🇬🇧
Now. I have watched all your vids on this bike. You and Cluby put out the best content. Im genuinely excited for this bike. The footage from the Vic high country, and your pic at Craigs Hut lol. Absolute gold. My only gripe... you didn't get Cam Donald on film. Im a big Irish road racing nut.
Great Review Dave, I was looking at a used GS800 Adventure for my first bike back riding. Now I will have test ride on RE 450 Himalayan. Thanks for the great review .
"I honestly don't think you can, although I caution I haven't ridden the CF Moto" A Great Comment Dave. Great review again. You had me sold. I need a 2nd bike to tag along with my T7. Went have a look and sat on both. WOW. The Enfield felt heavier than my T7. But looked solid. The CF Moto For $500 more. Out right winners with all named fruit on it, Pulse the extra cylinder. Lighter. A copy of my T7 only 450. Hope u get to do a Review of it. In Australia
A 1200 I have ridden and continually do is my 1200 XE scrambler now I might be the exceptions to the rule but the XE is always overlooked by all, now this is about the Himalayan 450 and not my XE so I really do not want to detract from it because the new Himalayan looks to be massive success and rightfully so in my opinion , great work guy’s. My money would have to go to Royal Enfield and NOT to MT450 in fact I went along and looked at the MT yesterday and a few areas scared me considerably enough to stop looking at it and I know without looking at the Royal this would not be the case.
Ok so you asked and I will respond, Points of concern 1) zero support from the aftermarket 2) zero confidence in factory replacement support 3) zero network supporting parts availability 4) Even the tyres on that thing are a point in question, simply put they are an obvious carbon copy of my Pirelli’s STR’s and so while some are poaching other’s ideas this is something I definitely do not want to support any one plagiarism . 5) just because it is cheap does not mean it is good . 6) thank you for allowing me to explain Kind regards Steve. Oh and it is so close in weight to my 1200 it is actually funny and it definitely does not have the balls of a 1200 and if you want to argue weight and it is a completely different bike then I have an XR400 that would kick its ass in the woods that’s been “hot rodded”
Wow! You proven and tested the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450CC is an awesome all in one motorcycle. Very comfortable using in off-roads terrains and as well Touring and City Driving. Me I owned Royal Enfield Classic 350CC Chrome Red. It is as well an awesome motorcycle that can use in off-roads and City driving for commuting. But I cannot use it for adventure like you did to the Himalayan 450 CC. I am looking forward to buy Himalayan 450 for my Adventure rides someday! Excellent review and Video shots! Thanks a lot!
That’s a good bike for me I just like plodding along l don’t ride like you do on your husky ,bang for buck it’s very good I would consider buying one I like the utilitarian design I hate all that crap plastic ,and it could sit on the freeway at 120 ks all day long and got power to go more ,they have done a brilliant job on the bike it’s got power now love it
Looking forward to the full 1-hour 13-days riding review. But based on this video I am curious for my test ride already. The previous one was fun to ride and good to look at. But this one I might actually buy.
Good review Dave. Always interesting to hang with the chief designer and learn where they are coming from with the bike. Now I wonder if the electrics will support heated grips. The horn will need to be raised up out of the mud and water zone behind the front tire. What about an enclosed drive chain? Most all the bikes I see on the road in India have this. I have a dealer about 150 km away. I'm going down as soon as they have one for demo. Thanks mates. Safe riding on the Pensioner's Club.
When you listen to your customers and you examine what it will take to accomplish that goal, you have the start of a successful business venture. For some reason modern manufacturers do not listen to their consumers and only their stockholders. The bike riding community as a whole needs to voice their opinions by not buying inferior products. Just look at the RE factory and its employees. These people are motivated and if given enough time will take over a large section of the market.
It's good to see RE and CF Moto listening to what people want and building these bikes. Japan better wake up and remember what they did to the British motor cycle industry in the 60's.
It's Indian company now British killed RoyalEnfield later Indian company Eicer Motors bought it and turned it around by using good quality and designs. thanks to the one and only Siddhart lal CEO of RE. He is a great inspiration here in India who saved RE.
great video: you really have to get your hands on a Rieju aventura legend 500 - amazing how little attention it gets, spruced up for this year, great engine (honda 500 twin), good KYB sussers, 1000km fuel range and much more - get in touch with them, i think it would make a lot of folk smile
Tyres, yes, I'll find out in a week or three. Just got notified by RE Au that My prepurchase "group" will start deliveries on the 10th. 🙂 Though I might stick with those tyres for the run-in period & a run down the coast to my Brother's Bush block in "Knorrit Forest", in the hills out the back of Taree and 8hr+ ride of as much dirt roads and fire trails as I can squeeze in without back tracking. A good opportunity to sort out my soft luggage and all that stuff. I'm so glad it's rideable out of the box. Bash plate, touring seat, rear luggage plate & visor can come later unless they're in stock now. 👍 PS: I happy you mentioned the low pegs as I have a 34/35" inseam while standing 178cm, so I won't feel cramped as I feel a bit on my KLX400e with a slightly lower soft seat.
I've ridden the Himalayan and was a bit heavy yet was nimble yet not as nible as my Beta 500 yet affording plenty fun as long as you kept it reved up Plenty good fun
I am at a point where I truly am confused right now to thoroughly know which of 5he two (Himy or MT) to get because of a few factors. Maybe your next full review might do it for me. I'm inlove with the styling of retro modern bikes and am more inclined to a more dirt oriented moto. What's bothering me is the serviceability of the air filter where you have to remove the tank just to gain access to it. The old 411 was built like a tank other than some issues with the strength of the chassis so I am sure they made improvements with this new one. Hope to hear your thoughts soon.
About to buy my first bike at 65 years old. It’s between the RE Himalayan 450 or the BMW G310GS. Need something great on the road and fun in the dirt. Just can’t decide. Thoughts.
I think you made the best bike I love mine done hundreds of K s on dirt roads lots of things I like on the bike one in particular no bloody plastic ,got enough power for me an average rider it not the destination it’s about the journey 👍😎
@@richardjreidiiLooks like you get a lot more for your money regarding the CF Moto, but I've not seen a CF Moto report that is as enthusiastic about it as this RE450 review. The reports from the CF Moto launch have complained about the front brakes, the rear brakes lacking feel, two things Dave considers good on this bike. They've complained about the forks, another thing Dave has said he really likes on this bike, and we've not had any feedback on road riding (buffeting etc..) on the 450MT. Also heard complaints about the throttle on the 450MT. Going to be really interesting to see these two go head to head.
On paper there's a clear winner between those two, that's for sure. Reliability is the #1 concern for these bikes I think. The old himy had a slew of issues any rider could be plagued with just depending on who was working in the factory that day and they never were ironed out. The one time CFmoto had an issue with its 800 ibex it was fixed for free within 3 months. I think that says everything you need to know.
I'd love to see how this would go in the deep, soft sand we get in the southwest WA. That 180kg dry weight looks a bit concerning to me, but that could just be the kind of riding I want to do. This does look like a great all-rounder though, and that price will be pretty hard to beat
Have a look at the CR Moto test I recently did, I think there is nothing between them. What is missing in the equation is long term reliability and that will only come with time. There are some well known brands that have reliability issues that emerge after around 15,000 km. So let's wait and see.
As an owner of a 300 rally and a Versys 650 , the one thing both bikes give is confidence , both in reliability and safety . Have ridden ten hour days on both bikes . Will this Indian made bike fall apart after a few weeks that is the question .
what was all the faffing about towards the end of the video about? did the bike struggle to get up a steep incline? or with a hill start? thanks! love the videos guys :)
Just pulled the trigger on a CB500X due to build quality, an extra cylinder, and the fact that there are Honda dealers in many country towns throughout Australia. I understand that the Himalayan (which I did consider, along with the CFMoto) will be more capable in the dirt, but my real-world riding situation sees me spending more time on the tar. Btw, the Honda doesn't need warranty or roadside assistance...
@CosmicSeeker69 man made machines don't have a soul and never will. My last bike was a Harley-Davidson, and its 'soul' was one of the reasons I got rid of it.
It has alot of parts you can remove to make it lighter without removing any important thing . I have seen people reducing 20 kg weight just by removing useless accessories on the bike .
Dave I want this bike. But I definitely want the tubeliss setup. Do you know if they will offer the other colours with tubeliss soon? What price is it with the tubeliss? And for how long will they have the introductory pricing? Last question...What will the price go up to? I'll ask these questions to the dealer tomorrow too, but just thought I'd ask here (maybe they don't know??). I was sold on the CFMoto 450 MT but I go by the emotion and excitement in reviewers voices, not just what they say, and I'm now convinced the Himalayan is the better bike.
Great to see it finally hitting Australian soil. I would love some more commuting footage, including how well it does lane splitting in stand still traffic. Thanks guys.
@@MrTewaka2 I may wait until that’s an option. I was looking at the new himi 411 in brown camo they have at the dealer but think best to wait. Shoot me a message here when you’re going to pick it up… I’d love to come see it!
@@tangomikesierra I think for about 20 million more you get twice the bike. RE seem to have put in alot of r and d as this is their first whole world bike they've produced. What you ridind currently?
New 2024 KLR is a hunk of junk, likely a class action against it coming. Factory assembly issues with the bearings that require dealer work to fix and are a major safety concern.
@@domenik8339or a single line item on the PDI , which is already on the Honda/yamaha … if they aren’t sued over the doo, it certainly won’t happen over a check and torque…
But it’s soulless. Intrigued as to what a “Full size adventure bike” is? Some 1300 cc monster you cant pick up? I rode all over Africa in the early 2000’s on an XT600. Is that a full size adventure bike?
@@petittrainguernsey3297 When I said full sized adventure bike I was thinking of bikes like the R1200GS or Super Tenere. The XT600 and other 650's like the KLR have even more spacious ergos so the Versys X 300 would have inferior to them in terms of riding position
@@petittrainguernsey3297 As for being soulless that what the new Himalayan seems like to me. It seems like the Himalayan sold it's soul to the devil abandoning the long stroke engine which is where the original derived it's character. The new one has 40hp, but so what? so does every other bike in the class. It's heavier then the old BS4 Himalayan. It's uses more fuel. It STILL has bad gear ratios. Even with a sixth gear they just crunch all the ratios closer together so you still have the same tight spread between 1st and top gear. The 450 is vibey at 100 km/h maybe more so than the old model. It has less low end power and won't pull from as low. Also it doesn't look as good. If you ask me it's 450 thats soulless, at least compared the old one. Although I have not ridden one yet
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From your review on this one I take it you can’t do much better bang for buck than this bike?
I honestly don't think you can, although I caution I haven't ridden the CF Moto. I could ride this around the world tomorrow, all set up ready to go for under $10K, WTF! Serious competition for the Honda CRF300 that we know needs a minimum of suspension work. What else is out there that comes near this price.....?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I feel like they are two sides of the same coin, RE being offroad oriented, and CFmoto being more touring/road oriented, exactly as you said. Tubeless wheels for me are a really good selling point tho, as I sometimes get punctures even 2x a day on solo riding through distant places (didn't invest in luck stats enough I guess).
Nice video and observation,
Cheers
Anyone want a300 rally?
@@blacky8498
We dont use Plastictoys!
Plastictoys are 4 Itchy B. And her followers, who believe anything she says. 😂😂
@@stavrozinioi see you were also lurking! hope you get to test the 452 as you did the 450mt
Great thing about RE is, it is being run by Motorcycle lovers... not some managers... CEO make sure all his Engineering team ride their bikes.
A good idea. I hope they're a blend of ages and not overpopulated with hipsters with man bags. :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV 😂🤞
KAAVER :': ALMIGHTY:.-: GOD .:-❤
I love the on screen navigation, one button abs and simplicity. Awesome. Well done RE!
Totally agree!
This will be my Christmas present this December. Upgrade my 2019 Himmy. Southland, New Zealand
Good idea but remember it’s very different
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes, as much as I love my Himmy, this new model has pretty much everything I wanted in my current bike. It will be more suited to my style of riding here in South Island, New Zealand
I currently have a BMW 1200RT - bloody awesome touring bike. Not being a dirt bike rider - doing an intro ADV course tomorrow, I am beginning to look for a lightweight/mid adventure bike to get out on those dirt roads and tracks I currently have to stop at……. Looked at the BMW 310 and the Honda CRF 300 Rally and now you show us the Royal Enfield 450 which plugs all the compromises of the 2 previous bikes and within an amazing budget. I love the Australian reviews and MAD TV especially. I have viewed the reviews from other countries and they ride like they are in their lounge room, Perfect tarmac and flat smooth dirt roads and 2 track is a driveway. In good OLD OZ you guys ride them like you stole them on and off road. Off road being real off road gnarly tracks, mountains, rivers blah blah - give it to em …. ect - just love it. This 450 Royal Enfield ticks pretty much all of the boxes on my wish list - Looks like Royal Enfield have nailed it with this model hitting that perfect market segment.
I honestly think they have.
Test rode one last week in the UK. Unbelievable bike, handling on road was great, flat footed at 5ft 10". Felt more than 40HP. RE have done a great job.
Nice ot hear your view is consistent to what we observed.
I was at an adventure bike rally in the US much of last week and through the weekend. I was excited to see that RE was going to be on site with demo bikes, but I was REALLY disappointed that they only had the 411 because of how excited I am to try this bike. Now, after this video, I'm looking forward to it even more! Thanks for the great content!
It's a great bike.
1-button ABS off! At last, someone listened.
It's brilliant! So quick.
Fantic Caballero 500 rally actually has that too!
Yep. Just pullover. Hold the mode button down. Done.
Congrats to Himalayam engeneering team! They acoumplish one of the most sucessfull transition in the motorcycle industry history! Himalayam 401 is a great success and the new 452 honored its qualities and traditions and brought a brand new world to adventure bikers! Cheers!
Yes, I would congratulate them. It's such a quantum leap. One of the biggest jumps I've witnessed in the motorcycle industry in many many years.
Great review Dave.
I've owned 3 enfeilds and have ridden the old himmy .
One thing I can say about the enfeild brand is that the gearbox is solid. You never find false neutrals.
I'm hoping the test of time proves these engines to be solid and reliable.
I'm on a Suzuki Dr page almost every week somone is dealing with a blown gearbox.
I see itchy boots changed out a counter shaft at 40,000 k. On her Honda 300
I wouldn't be surprised if we see these enfeilds becoming the workhorse motorcycle of the wourld.
The new himmy has a face only a mother could love IMO.
It’s a great bike
It is kind of a pickup truck. Pickups have a utilitarian beauty and this bike has that. This company is going to sell a boatload of these bikes.
first bike I've come across that would make me even consider swapping for my 2006 vstrom.......looks marvelous.
You would enjoy the more dirt orientation
I bought brand new 411 last September and only kept it for 3 months before I sold it on. This new 450 looks like it has everything I wanted from the old one, more power, some tech, decent suspension. I still ride ride my old DR350 which I absolutely love, however I can actually see the 450 being my only do it all bike. Cannot wait to test ride one later on this month. Great video btw 👍🏻
It's a good bike
Man I'm from India.n I salute the chief of RE design I recently bought it kamet white, great bike
Nice 👍
Hello from France ! I tried it 2 days ago and decided to pre-order mine. Kamet White color with tubeless tires but I have to wait until June/July to get it... This give me time to sell my current bike by then. 😄
Good choice!
Finally find an upload of the RE on the dirt roads that im primarily riding now that im 63YO. Currently running a 2008 XT250 that even though ive moded the air/carb/exhaust its just not quite ballsy enough. Ive got an 83 XR650L but im all jacked up and cant kick it any more. I just kinda like the style and ethics behind this company. Great upload! thanks from Arkansas USA!
there you go
Kiwi here, I'm seriously considering getting one of these as my very first bike. I didn't even consider an ADV when I started my research, but in countries like Oz and NZ I feel like you're removing half the potential roads you can ride if you stick to bikes made for asphalt only. The CRF Rally was the first one that caught my attention, but the Himalayan wins by almost every metric on paper.
Correct.
I'm on my 3rd RE. Had the original Himalayan but ultimately traded it for a 250 Rally as it was just that little bit too slow and the ground clearance was no good for rutted british green lanes. Got a 650 Shotgun which I'm currently in love with... this looks like a possible stable mate!
Definitely
Mark - Head of Design but passing off as Head of Marketing 🙂 - Done a great job by the sound of it.
He's passionate. Oil in his veins.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV This is the result when a company puts faith in people that live the product instead of bean counters. Looks like he and his team deserve the success!
Was good to hear about the designers perspective. Makes sense.
Probably the best review of the bike I’ve seen: everything you need to know presented by a team that know what you need to know. Well done.
Appreciate your comments.
Great Review Mad TV . Well done. Hope Australians will enjoy this bike like we do in Goa , India. It's a one bike go anywhere... ❤
A good first impression.
in Goa. no it's in the name. that's where it must be
Good review, again. My take-away was that this model is better value-for-money than it has ever been. It sounds like a set of barkbusters and some better tyres will defo get a lot of newbies and/or more "relaxed" riders out on adventures. Can't be a bad thing!👍
Exactly!
We changed the sprocket and both the wheels removed some useless stuffs saved more then 10 kg now it's a different beast
What did you change?
Great review, now I want one - and a superb place to test ride, I’m highly envious in dismal rainy England!
A great bike for that riding.
A ‘21 Himalayan was my first motorbike & I’m now on a ‘15 BMW 650GS Sertao. Always thought I’d naturally move to a bigger bike & go toward a T7 or ktm890 etc once I got off the restricted license but I’m giving some serious thought now to going back to the 450
Himalayan after the assessment you & Clubby have made…guess I’ll have to test ride one. Cheers Dave
Definitely test ride one!
Did you do a test ride?I am curious,cause I ride a F650gs too,and had the same thought as you.😊
@@markuswormann8852 not yet mate but I will. But I do still love my Sertao…a bit of a forgotten big single but it’s still an excellent small adv bike
@@thedougies8322 totally agree.And bulletproof for sure.But my is 24 years now,no ABS.After long rides I get numb hands.So I really interested to compare.Bmw 60nm power is still impressive.
You’ve sold me… This will be my next bike!!
It has everything going for it as a rider who is getting the taste for adventure riding. Can’t wait to test ride one!
And it’s bloody beautiful!!!!!
I think it is outstanding value for what it is.
Great to hear the chief designer talking about the bike he helped design… I love this bike and will definitely test ride one … and possibly buy one as my do it all steed .. great vid mate ! 👊 uk 🇬🇧
Thank you.
This is going to be good coming from MAD so liked the vlog even before i watched,
Thanks.
Awesome work guys. Best bike channel for me. Love it.
Wow, thanks!
Now. I have watched all your vids on this bike. You and Cluby put out the best content. Im genuinely excited for this bike. The footage from the Vic high country, and your pic at Craigs Hut lol. Absolute gold.
My only gripe... you didn't get Cam Donald on film. Im a big Irish road racing nut.
I did have an interview with him but the sound didn’t come out well
Still humble enough to help another rider....that's why we love what you do Dave.
Thanks mate.
Great Review Dave, I was looking at a used GS800 Adventure for my first bike back riding. Now I will have test ride on RE 450 Himalayan. Thanks for the great review .
Yes do test ride it.
Ripper.
Thank you, kindly.
Waiting to test ride in the UK.
👍
Have fun!
No background music . Just the sound of the bike 👍 the way a real review should be.
It depends on what cameras you use, but this time it worked.
"I honestly don't think you can, although I caution I haven't ridden the CF Moto" A Great Comment Dave. Great review again. You had me sold. I need a 2nd bike to tag along with my T7. Went have a look and sat on both. WOW. The Enfield felt heavier than my T7. But looked solid. The CF Moto For $500 more. Out right winners with all named fruit on it, Pulse the extra cylinder. Lighter. A copy of my T7 only 450. Hope u get to do a Review of it. In Australia
Glad you enjoyed it
A 1200 I have ridden and continually do is my 1200 XE scrambler now I might be the exceptions to the rule but the XE is always overlooked by all, now this is about the Himalayan 450 and not my XE so I really do not want to detract from it because the new Himalayan looks to be massive success and rightfully so in my opinion , great work guy’s. My money would have to go to Royal Enfield and NOT to MT450 in fact I went along and looked at the MT yesterday and a few areas scared me considerably enough to stop looking at it and I know without looking at the Royal this would not be the case.
Hi
Can you give some idea what all areas scared you ?
Just curious to know.
Thanks
Thanks
Ok so you asked and I will respond,
Points of concern
1) zero support from the aftermarket
2) zero confidence in factory replacement support
3) zero network supporting parts availability
4) Even the tyres on that thing are a point in question, simply put they are an obvious carbon copy of my Pirelli’s STR’s and so while some are poaching other’s ideas this is something I definitely do not want to support any one plagiarism .
5) just because it is cheap does not mean it is good .
6) thank you for allowing me to explain
Kind regards Steve.
Oh and it is so close in weight to my 1200 it is actually funny and it definitely does not have the balls of a 1200 and if you want to argue weight and it is a completely different bike then I have an XR400 that would kick its ass in the woods that’s been “hot rodded”
Great review. I wish we had the awesome roads you ride there in OZ here in Canada.... keep up the good work boyz!
They are great roads
Awesome vid! Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Wow! You proven and tested the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450CC is an awesome all in one motorcycle. Very comfortable using in off-roads terrains and as well Touring and City Driving.
Me I owned Royal Enfield Classic 350CC Chrome Red. It is as well an awesome motorcycle that can use in off-roads and City driving for commuting. But I cannot use it for adventure like you did to the Himalayan 450 CC.
I am looking forward to buy Himalayan 450 for my Adventure rides someday!
Excellent review and Video shots! Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video! We appreciate you sharing this for those of us that are considering this bike. 👍🏼👍🏼
Glad it was helpful!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Very Helpful
Sounds like a cracking bike for its given purpose.Thanks.
I think it is.
Change the antiflickering settings to 50hz or 25fps. It will stop screen flickering issue
Mate it's done.
That’s a good bike for me I just like plodding along l don’t ride like you do on your husky ,bang for buck it’s very good I would consider buying one I like the utilitarian design I hate all that crap plastic ,and it could sit on the freeway at 120 ks all day long and got power to go more ,they have done a brilliant job on the bike it’s got power now love it
It's a great bike.
Great review and excellent to have another player in the small bike segment hopefully other manufacturers will see the light
I hope so too! The more the merrier.
This is the best review of Himalayan I have seen this far.
Thank you.
Excellent review guys, very informative and Interesting. Thanks from the UK. 👍😄
Our pleasure!
Great video and bike preview.
Thanks
I love these in the black and gold colours
This is the first time I've seen this bike in action. That little 450s got balls.
Agree
Looking forward to the full 1-hour 13-days riding review. But based on this video I am curious for my test ride already.
The previous one was fun to ride and good to look at. But this one I might actually buy.
No comparison to the previous one.
Good review Dave. Always interesting to hang with the chief designer and learn where they are coming from with the bike. Now I wonder if the electrics will support heated grips. The horn will need to be raised up out of the mud and water zone behind the front tire. What about an enclosed drive chain? Most all the bikes I see on the road in India have this. I have a dealer about 150 km away. I'm going down as soon as they have one for demo. Thanks mates. Safe riding on the Pensioner's Club.
A good pensioner bike. You'll beat a lot of the young ones on the bigger steads.
When you listen to your customers and you examine what it will take to accomplish that goal, you have the start of a successful business venture. For some reason modern manufacturers do not listen to their consumers and only their stockholders. The bike riding community as a whole needs to voice their opinions by not buying inferior products. Just look at the RE factory and its employees. These people are motivated and if given enough time will take over a large section of the market.
I agree. Quality improvements in this model over previous are amazing.
It's good to see RE and CF Moto listening to what people want and building these bikes. Japan better wake up and remember what they did to the British motor cycle industry in the 60's.
Very very good point
It's Indian company now British killed RoyalEnfield later Indian company Eicer Motors bought it and turned it around by using good quality and designs. thanks to the one and only Siddhart lal CEO of RE. He is a great inspiration here in India who saved RE.
I’m waiting on RE to come out with a 650 Himalayan. I’m 240 lbs without my gear on.
I don’t know when that’s coming
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVseems like RE is testing the himi650 rn in india
great video: you really have to get your hands on a Rieju aventura legend 500 - amazing how little attention it gets, spruced up for this year, great engine (honda 500 twin), good KYB sussers, 1000km fuel range and much more - get in touch with them, i think it would make a lot of folk smile
They don’t sell them in Australia unfortunately
If the engine were a 270 crank, I would highly consider it... that said, I would prefer Honda build this machine.
I'll check it out!
What’s your thoughts comparing it to the CFMOTO 450MT
When we can get hold of one, we will.
Dave, good to see you guys again, it's been quite awhile.😇😊😊🚴♀🚴♀
Thanks mate.
Tyres, yes, I'll find out in a week or three. Just got notified by RE Au that My prepurchase "group" will start deliveries on the 10th. 🙂 Though I might stick with those tyres for the run-in period & a run down the coast to my Brother's Bush block in "Knorrit Forest", in the hills out the back of Taree and 8hr+ ride of as much dirt roads and fire trails as I can squeeze in without back tracking. A good opportunity to sort out my soft luggage and all that stuff. I'm so glad it's rideable out of the box. Bash plate, touring seat, rear luggage plate & visor can come later unless they're in stock now. 👍
PS: I happy you mentioned the low pegs as I have a 34/35" inseam while standing 178cm, so I won't feel cramped as I feel a bit on my KLX400e with a slightly lower soft seat.
Get riding
I was in the RE ,show room yesterday ,the 452 they got in only lasted a couple of days ,i think they will sell a shed load.
I'm sure they will.
It's so good to see Australian terrains....❤❤❤ Beautiful
Thank you.
Hello Dave; Thanks for a great review , first impressions; David....Adelaide....Triumph 1200X Scrambler.....
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for you review! How did you find the weight/center of gravity of this bike? Does it feel heavier, lighter or the same as the old 411?
A little lighter but it's not :)
I've ridden the Himalayan and was a bit heavy yet was nimble yet not as nible as my Beta 500 yet affording plenty fun as long as you kept it reved up
Plenty good fun
Seriously good fun!
Yep great bike
I am at a point where I truly am confused right now to thoroughly know which of 5he two (Himy or MT) to get because of a few factors. Maybe your next full review might do it for me. I'm inlove with the styling of retro modern bikes and am more inclined to a more dirt oriented moto. What's bothering me is the serviceability of the air filter where you have to remove the tank just to gain access to it. The old 411 was built like a tank other than some issues with the strength of the chassis so I am sure they made improvements with this new one. Hope to hear your thoughts soon.
Serviceability is surprisingly quick.
About to buy my first bike at 65 years old. It’s between the RE Himalayan 450 or the BMW G310GS. Need something great on the road and fun in the dirt. Just can’t decide. Thoughts.
You’ll enjoy either bike! However BMW are brining out a new 450 soon ish?
What would be your pick if you owned no other bike and had to pick up either the CRF300 Rally or the Himalayan 450 (tubeless)?
I'm thinking the same. I have a klx300 but I'll have to test ride this to see if I like it more.
You need to test ride it too close to call for many different reasons
Is this a replacement for the DR650? Not perfect with the weight and style (Dual sport vs Adv) but is this the closest we have come to a replacement?
It is certainly worth a look
I think you made the best bike I love mine done hundreds of K s on dirt roads lots of things I like on the bike one in particular no bloody plastic ,got enough power for me an average rider it not the destination it’s about the journey 👍😎
Agree
The designer sold the bike. Great job!
I think the designer is passionate about his work.
Could you do a comparison between the Himalayan 450 & the CF MOTO 450
Not sure. We are pretty booked up now, until September.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV are you dropping into Europe this summer?
That’s the big one, yeah? On paper the CF has the edge, but I’d like to see a proper back to back review.
@@richardjreidiiLooks like you get a lot more for your money regarding the CF Moto, but I've not seen a CF Moto report that is as enthusiastic about it as this RE450 review. The reports from the CF Moto launch have complained about the front brakes, the rear brakes lacking feel, two things Dave considers good on this bike. They've complained about the forks, another thing Dave has said he really likes on this bike, and we've not had any feedback on road riding (buffeting etc..) on the 450MT. Also heard complaints about the throttle on the 450MT. Going to be really interesting to see these two go head to head.
On paper there's a clear winner between those two, that's for sure. Reliability is the #1 concern for these bikes I think. The old himy had a slew of issues any rider could be plagued with just depending on who was working in the factory that day and they never were ironed out. The one time CFmoto had an issue with its 800 ibex it was fixed for free within 3 months. I think that says everything you need to know.
This bike is a steal. Can't beat it in price and package. It has everything you need.
Slap some Scorpions on it and travel around the world.
I reckon you're right.
Yeah man!
Well done Royal Enfield 👍 I reckon these are gonna sell like hot cakes…. Would be great to them back in South Africa
They deserve to sell. They have done their homework.
I'd love to see how this would go in the deep, soft sand we get in the southwest WA. That 180kg dry weight looks a bit concerning to me, but that could just be the kind of riding I want to do. This does look like a great all-rounder though, and that price will be pretty hard to beat
Good question!
Fantastic vid. Stoked that they seem to have knocked it out of the park with this bike. Im waiting on one with tubeless tyres though!
It's just arrived in Australia.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yep, I'm on their mailing list!
Mate for a round the world bike, what would you choose the CF moto 450mt or the Himmy 350?
Have a look at the CR Moto test I recently did, I think there is nothing between them. What is missing in the equation is long term reliability and that will only come with time. There are some well known brands that have reliability issues that emerge after around 15,000 km. So let's wait and see.
As an owner of a 300 rally and a Versys 650 , the one thing both bikes give is confidence , both in reliability and safety .
Have ridden ten hour days on both bikes .
Will this Indian made bike fall apart after a few weeks that is the question .
Time will tell. But it starts with a three year warranty and roadside assist. Now that's putting their money where their mouth is I'd say.
You need to move on. The reliability of RE is leaps and bounds ahead of the old times.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Sounds ok , we all remember in the 70s the Leyland P76 had a warranty ….trouble was no parts …
What tyres would you suggest as you mentioned in the video?
Pirelli Rally Scorpion for the front.
When will we see them in store in Canada .
I don't know.
how often are valve checks? every 10km? or is that oil changes? or both? I'd hate to check valves every 10km
Not sure
Great review, Dave. Just goes to show you don't need to break the bank to have great adventures.
I strongly agree. This bike can make you smile.
You've probably heard that the roads here in England are full of potholes and ruts. This bike will be ideal here.
Yep
looks great. I do think the kickstand need a 50mm extention. Looks like the bike is close to falling over.
Nope it's just right. It might have been the angle of the ground we had it on as it was sloping.
what was all the faffing about towards the end of the video about? did the bike struggle to get up a steep incline? or with a hill start? thanks! love the videos guys :)
In experienced rider
Just pulled the trigger on a CB500X due to build quality, an extra cylinder, and the fact that there are Honda dealers in many country towns throughout Australia. I understand that the Himalayan (which I did consider, along with the CFMoto) will be more capable in the dirt, but my real-world riding situation sees me spending more time on the tar. Btw, the Honda doesn't need warranty or roadside assistance...
I think it’s amazing offering three years warranty
what it does need though - is a soul
@CosmicSeeker69 man made machines don't have a soul and never will. My last bike was a Harley-Davidson, and its 'soul' was one of the reasons I got rid of it.
awesome review
Thank you.
Awesome review thanks.
Is the weight a problem? Not the lightest bike around.
U can reduce the weight by unnecessary accessories like center stand.
I don't think so.
It has alot of parts you can remove to make it lighter without removing any important thing . I have seen people reducing 20 kg weight just by removing useless accessories on the bike .
@@hdslytro387tell us what are the useless parts you removed that weigh 20 kg ?
Dave I want this bike. But I definitely want the tubeliss setup. Do you know if they will offer the other colours with tubeliss soon? What price is it with the tubeliss? And for how long will they have the introductory pricing? Last question...What will the price go up to? I'll ask these questions to the dealer tomorrow too, but just thought I'd ask here (maybe they don't know??). I was sold on the CFMoto 450 MT but I go by the emotion and excitement in reviewers voices, not just what they say, and I'm now convinced the Himalayan is the better bike.
So many questions I can’t answer.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV😂
Great to see it finally hitting Australian soil.
I would love some more commuting footage, including how well it does lane splitting in stand still traffic.
Thanks guys.
It will do lane splitting well, from my experience in Easter Traffic.
For what you get with the bike, the price is amazing 🎉
I think it is amazing value
If going to ride side-by-side, then why not put a couple planks across to effectively make a 4-wheeler for added stability, etc.?
Good idea.
I like the naked bike no crap plastic to bother about and the power is plenty love the bike mate jimmy WA
I think it's great.
Olá do Brasil! Qual o melhor para algumas viagens e tambem off road, versys x 300 ou himalaym 450?
Easy 450!
No South African importer since KWSA stopped a couple of years ago 😢 Really think this bike would be a winner here.
Agree
Waiting for their arrival in Canada! Great review Dave.
Thanks
Isn't the exhaust a bit low? What are your thoughts on that Dave? Looks like a very good bike nonetheless, awesome video!
As I said, if it was my bike, I'd get the heavy duty bashplate.
I have mine on order. In 3 weeks I'll be one of the first in Bali with one. Yerhar(:-)
You'll love it over there.
Were you able to order with tubeless tires in Bali? I live here as well and considering a Himi
@@tangomikesierra Not available at all at this point
@@MrTewaka2 I may wait until that’s an option. I was looking at the new himi 411 in brown camo they have at the dealer but think best to wait. Shoot me a message here when you’re going to pick it up… I’d love to come see it!
@@tangomikesierra I think for about 20 million more you get twice the bike. RE seem to have put in alot of r and d as this is their first whole world bike they've produced. What you ridind currently?
Please ask Mark Wells, Chief of Design and Strategy for Royal Enfield as to when Himalayan 450 coming to USA ?
To late he’s back in England
great vid...😃 How would the new Himalayan compare to the KLR650?
New 2024 KLR is a hunk of junk, likely a class action against it coming. Factory assembly issues with the bearings that require dealer work to fix and are a major safety concern.
Good question!
@@domenik8339or a single line item on the PDI , which is already on the Honda/yamaha … if they aren’t sued over the doo, it certainly won’t happen over a check and torque…
How does it hold it weight, it is under 200kg so that is a pluss.
It holds its weight well.
Damn RE knocked it out of the park. WANT.
I think they did.
The Versys X300 has the same power and is 25kg lighter. It's surprisingly good off road with ergo's like a full size adventure bike
Like the crf300 it suffers from less power. But yes agree. It has many followers.
But it’s soulless. Intrigued as to what a “Full size adventure bike” is? Some 1300 cc monster you cant pick up? I rode all over Africa in the early 2000’s on an XT600. Is that a full size adventure bike?
@@petittrainguernsey3297 When I said full sized adventure bike I was thinking of bikes like the R1200GS or Super Tenere.
The XT600 and other 650's like the KLR have even more spacious ergos so the Versys X 300 would have inferior to them in terms of riding position
@@petittrainguernsey3297 As for being soulless that what the new Himalayan seems like to me.
It seems like the Himalayan sold it's soul to the devil abandoning the long stroke engine which is where the original derived it's character.
The new one has 40hp, but so what? so does every other bike in the class. It's heavier then the old BS4 Himalayan. It's uses more fuel. It STILL has bad gear ratios. Even with a sixth gear they just crunch all the ratios closer together so you still have the same tight spread between 1st and top gear.
The 450 is vibey at 100 km/h maybe more so than the old model. It has less low end power and won't pull from as low. Also it doesn't look as good.
If you ask me it's 450 thats soulless, at least compared the old one. Although I have not ridden one yet
My friend drives one
Any chance of getting a thorough review of this bike down the road?
Not sure. Certainly not this year, we have too much on.