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Actually something you should look in to were the post Voyager concepts as the star fleet academy which has kinda become Prodigy, along with the time travel series and even a post Nemesis Animated Star Trek Series are all tantalising as Alien3's Wooden Planet script.
I'm more interested in knowing more about the deep fakes of the Phase II Enterprise in the drydock images as I know those photos well and I know that the Phase II Enterprise was never fully completed to the point those deep fakes show. Allegedly, Robert Able took the model, along with its molds, completed the model, but to more closely match the final TMP version as well as make additional models from the molds for use at Planet Hollywood, among other venues.
And now we need a new letter writing campaign for 'Stra Trek: Prodigy'. There is an online petition to save the show. I grew up with and adored TOS, loved TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and I think Prodigy is as good as them and needs to be saved.
I'm sure most trek fans are aware of the fan film series Star Trek: Continues. imo, the best trek fan film series I've seen. Apart from the bridge and ship were built from the original blueprints, but the acting is really good. We even get Scott's real son playing Scotty. It starts exactly where season 3 ended on TV. Very enjoyable watch.
"Star Trek Continues" should have been picked up by cable or one of the networks. It is top shelf Star Trek, from the sets to the stories to the actors to the special effects. That it was fan-made is unbelievable. That there were only 11 episodes made is extremely saddening.
My only beef with STC as a lifelong Trekker since 70s, is they didn't account for Tas events. Placing Stc as if it would have premiered fall of 69 and within weeks or months since Turnabout Intruder in Trek time, doesn't allow enough leeway for Tas to occur between Turnabout and Stc ep1. Tas was considered to be picking up where Tos left off, continuing the Tos 5 year mission, with no more time between tos and tas than between Tos seasons, ie weeks or months. There was no question Tas was canon during its run, and I consider it such to this day.
Awesome breakdown and I didn't realize Shatner had the same issues that Nimoy had with the finances from the Network. Though I want to say Nimoy's refusal to sign on to more Star Trek was because he was bitter about being recognized only as Spock and that grew as he found out the studio was making a killing using his likeness without his permission which led to the lawsuit. In fact it was the studio needing Spock that caused the suit to be settled and Nimoy not only getting back pay but I believe gave him the contract that allowed him to direct later Star Trek 3 and 4.
there was a animated original Star Trek series as well btw, starring the original cast. It only had like one season, and the animation was pretty low tier. But still worth watching if you love the show. They could explore some stuff they could not do with live actors since it was animated
We had a very old movie 🍿 theater 🎭 in Northern New Jersey in the 80’s, went back to the 1930’s. Some reason every summer they would play Star Trek The Motion Picture over and over and over again I loved ❤it cause ticket 🎟️ was cheap for my Mom, Food was good, place was air conditioned 💨 I memorized every line from that film 🎞️ Simpler time and I never got bored caused it was fun and I spent time with those I love ❤ RIP Mom & Dad Wonderful Memories
Shortly after Star Trek went of the air, the Neilson Ratings system added demographics. While the raw numbers were not great, the demographic numbers (in the highly desirable 20-40 range), were very good. If the ratings were calculated using demographics, NBC would have certainly given us a 4th season.
No telling what NBC might have done - it sounded like they were pretty much dead-set on getting rid of the show. Seems like there's always been a lot of that going around: FOX had a tendency to launch and then kill its own sci-fi shows, and the SyFy channel slaughtered more than a few of its better sci-fi programs in spite of enthusiastic (if small) fan bases in a desirable demographic, and the potential for shows to have done better with just a little more support from the networks. Just a small sample of the shows I recall getting clobbered by getting buried in "Graveyard Time Slots", pre-empted at the drop of a hat, rescheduled to mystery time slots without warning, subjected to brutal budget cuts and self-destructive executive interference (often taking the form of "science fiction is kiddie stuff, and doesn't need a budget or intelligent stories!"), and other such abuse include: - The original 'Lost in Space' (destroyed by budget cuts and increasingly juvenile story elements) - The original 'Doctor Who' (destroyed by budget cuts and misguided story elements forced by BBC) - 'Millennium' (screwed by FOX with scheduling shenanigans and executive meddling, when this darker-and-edgier "sister program" to 'The X-Files' failed to attract the other program's huge audience) - 'Firefly' (famous for being killed off by the network in spite of fan support) - 'Babylon 5' (struggled with on-again-off-again network support leaving its originally-planned 5-year story arcs in constant doubt) - 'Dark Matter' (killed off by SyFy for internal reasons in spite of fan support) - 'Space: Above and Beyond' (killed off by network scheduling and budgeting shenanigans) ...and that's just a sample. In FOX's case, it seems like there were the conflicting pressures of an executive team that hated sci-fi to begin with, struggling against the pressure to conjure up a show with immediate success comparable to that built up by 'The X-Files' over years, and the depressing fact that it costs much less to produce "reality" programming than it does to conjure up the special effects and story development budgets for sci-fi programming. The BBC was in a similar situation with the original 'Doctor Who' and 'Lost in Space': network "suits" hated or didn't understand the genre, and wanted to aim a virtually budget-less program at what was assumed to be a juvenile audience that would buy anything with space ships and aliens in it. The SyFy Channel's problems with 'Dark Matter' appear to have been dissatisfaction at the (creator-controlled) show's relative success compared to SyFy's own in-house programming, with 'Dark Matter' being replaced by a wrestling show of all things (which failed to draw any audience on SyFy!) In general, genre programming runs into "cut off one's nose to spite one's face" kind of reaction from The Business; there's a lack of respect for genre programming in the network business, which doesn't mix well with the expense involved in creating a good sci-fi program compared to alternatives like "reality" programming. I've a feeling NBC would have killed 'Star Trek' off even if it had understood the show's demographic better! They seemed pretty relieved to have gotten rid of it, even after their competitors were surprising themselves by making bank with it in syndication....
I was part of the letter-writing campaign to save Trek, along with a similar campaign to rename the first shuttle the Enterprise. I still have a personal letter thank you letter from Bjo Trimble.
Man, that was great info. I never knew that Shatner had to live in a camper and that Nimoy would hang up the phone when contacted for casting Spock. Also, fans were mad about them replacing Spock and threating to kill off his replacement - WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all going to make great conversation over the next couple of days. Thanks for Sharing!
James Cawley's Star Trek New Voyages (Phase II) kind of covered the remaining years of the '5 year mission' as a fan series, but ultimately Paramount pulled the plug on allowing longer fan-made shows. This fan series had a lot of input and involvement from TOS original cast and crew, and even had some eps from scripts that were never produced by Gene Roddenberry. Think the Cawley-made show was one of the better efforts as far as fan-made material went.
I have to agree. At first I was put off by the same things that I hear mentioned by most people who see it: it causes anxiety when you're hearing somebody say the names of Kirk and Bones, followed by you seeing that responding actors clearly aren't Shatner or Kelley and the quality of the (at that time) modern camera exposing all of the seams and painted cardboard sets that were hidden by the low fidelity limitations of the old cameras that were used when the show was first aired are two issues that immediately come to mind. However, once I grew accustomed to these changes and could approach the story on fair terms, I discovered that it was actually good stuff. Even if a viewer can't go as far I have in saying that it's "good", one absolutely cannot deny that it's Trek. It captures that Trek feel and manages to Trek all over that small screen just like the big boys used to do. As much as I appreciate TAS and absolutely consider it to be season 4 of the original 5 year mission, there is room in my head canon to accommodate the lore that added by New Voyages as beta content.
I was a young kid in the early 80's. We watched Star Trek every time it was on. And even my own kid watches old Star Trek, yeah its old but it is interesting and provides plenty of brain food
The Star Trek animated series was the jewel. As the special effects to launch those episodes did not exist in the late 60s, they produced a cartoon series with the original cast doing the voice overs. Some of those episodes were amazing. It was available as a DVD set years ago.
the stories were great, but the animation was done on the cheap. I was 13 when it came out and was used to warner brothers cartoons and this thing seemed so stiff and cheap but they were all the original voices, which shows what could have been. I will never forget the next year just expecting it to be back on, and it wasn't. I thought this must be a mistake, it will be on next week, nope, it was cancelled. It won like best animated series then was cancelled.
I was just a bit too young to remember the animated series when it was new - most of my cartoon-watching was back in the late '70s and early '80s, when cheap animation was pretty much normal on Saturday mornings! (See most Hanna-Barberra programming available at the time....) So, the animation never bothered me. But, the fact that there weren't many episodes of it, combined with the fact that it only rarely turned up in programming in my day, meant that it was a weird sort of situation of vaguely remembering a couple episodes of "that weird Star Trek cartoon" turning up among our Saturday Morning Cartoon watching somewhere in a random soup of disjointed programming that might have included "Star Blazers", "Rocky and Bullwinkle", "Wonder Woman", "Speed Racer", "Laugh-O-Lympics", the "Three Stooges" cartoon, "Captain Caveman", "Ultra-Man", "The Electric Company", the "Bugs Bunny and Road-Runner" show, "Lost in Space", "The Muppet Show", "The Bowery Boys", "Japanese Spiderman", "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", "Popeye", "Space: 1999", "The Green Hornet", "Space Ghost", "Woody Woodpecker", some strange '60s cartoon show that kind of randomly featured Namor the Sub-Mariner or the Incredible Hulk or Thor or the Fantastic Four with minimalist animation, "Jonny Quest", Godzilla movies, "Three Stooges" shorts, "Super-Friends", Hammer horror movies, or pretty much anything and everything else our local TV station happened to have available and felt like showing that weekend. The TV Guide may or may not have given you an accurate idea of whatever was scheduled for that Saturday morning, so you just woke up, turned on the TV, and watched whatever the hell came on, in vague confusion enhanced by a sugary breakfast cereal rush and a blur of loud commecial ads. With 20/20 hindsight, there was a vaguely psychedelic quality to the whole experience, and I can't help thinking the target audience was as much former-hippies as it was their children. Really, it was a strange time to watch TV!
Literally just watched a video of the original Enterprise model at the Smithsonian (on Adam Savage's channel) then this showed up! Always enjoy watching your work!
In addition to a new Star Trek series to anchor UPN in the 90s, that happened again when CBS, holding the IP rights, launched “CBS All Access” as a streaming service, with Star Trek: Discovery as a show exclusive to the service. Other new Trek shows soon followed, and “CBS All Access” rebranded to “Paramount+” when CBS and Paramount merged, bringing Star Trek IP ownership back to Paramount.
Interesting fact about the episode THE CHILD. It was written after an episode of SPACE: 1999 called ALPHA CHILD was aired and both episodes have similar story elements.
Leonard Nimoy had to have possessed great discipline to keep from cracking a smile when popping up in a Carol Burnett skit. I can understand how Nimoy didn’t want to be type cast, but looking back now, Nimoy’s Spock had one of the most positive impacts on generation after generation. Same with Shatner’s Kirk. But they really did get screwed over in multiple avenues. Yeah, who would know in 1966 how much of a phenomenon Star Trek would become, but…
There was a new magazine released in the early 70s called STARLOG . It started as a STAR TREK fan magazine , until STAR WARS became a worldwide hit . Then it became a science fiction magazine . Anyway , I think it was made to help with the release of the PHASE 2 series . From what I remember reading , the new series would have a new cast and a different objective : being more about the Federation and it's politics instead of just being about the USS Enterprise and crew .
I loved this series! I have the whole first season on HD-DVD after wearing out my Betamax tapes and I remember playing the video game on the Sega Pluto. "Kitumba" is amazing to watch on my 70" rear projection TV and the commentary by cast and crew was fascinating to hear what they had planned for in Season 2. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
MOST-DETAILED video I've yet seen on the subject (and as a life-long Trekkie, I've watched a LOT!) - with the most relevant footage, interviews with cast and crew, context, ramifications, etc.! VERY well-done! LLAP! ;-)
I didn't learn anything new, but that's because I'm a super informed nut. The video itself seemed well researched and over accurate and pretty well made. Nice job! 😅
Good video, but FYI you have the wrong actor pictured instead of David Gautreaux at 10:06. You have Judson Scott pictured instead, who is from Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan.
Yes, Judson Scott played Joachim, Khan's right-hand man on the Reliant (Star Trek II). David Gautreaux actually appears in Star Trek: The Motion Picture as Commander Branch, the man in charge of the Epsilon 9 listening post. I'm glad that they included him in the movie, since Phase II fizzled out.
The triangular Enterprise drawings were a reality already. On the show Fireball XL-5 in the episode "Invasion Earth" the alien invaders flew ships like the one in the drawing.
Would have loved to see this entire series eventually broadcast. It would have been interesting no doubt. Thank you for the history of the show here and insights to the "things to have come but never did" as a result. Awesome upload!!!
Even though I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan by any means I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond this is still an incredibly cool what if and it definitely would have been interesting to see what trejectory the franchise would have gone if Star Trek Phase 2 released instead of Star Trek The Motion Picture
Hard to believe that a show could run without paying the actors residuals. That would be discouraging I am sure. Shatner and Nimoy had appearances in other things prior to Star Trek which showed they had the talents they brought to the roles they made huge. People loved all the characters, Interesting theat Captain Spock and Captain Kirk were both at that rank on the bridge at the end and poor Ensign Kim could not get promoted that whole time on Voyager. lol
Something not mentioned, the bridge set from TMP became the battle bridge on TNG and corridor walls from TMP were also reused on TNG by simply turning them upside down, as well as the warp core from TMP.
Walter Koenig was blessed with his CV. Star Trek. And then Babylon 5, which got Shakespearean at times, especially in the scenes between Londo and G’Kar.
Interesting bit of trivia: the tv ad announcing Trek's move to Friday nights uses the same font that would later be used in the 1980s for titles of Trek novels published by Pocket Books.
Thank you so much for this video Star Trek influenced so many of my generation into becoming Doctors Nurses Scientists Astronomers and on and on. I hope these dear people - sadly most of them gone now - most of us were children or teenagers in 1966 - know/knew How much they were Loved and Respected. Thankyou again ❤🙏 I wish all of you A very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year God bless 🙏
Well history repeats itself as Paramount will again come out with their own network. This time a streaming service, and they had Star Trek Discovery to lead it
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After watching a young daper Kirk,I could not relate to an old Picard and never could get into TNG. When Voyager came out I was hooked again,a young crew,all good looking members and a great story line. Especially the time travel episodes. The way that series ended was great
I wonder what the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been like If It did happen In the 1970's ?! I do agree with the Star Trek Phase II TV series Executive Producers that the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been difficult to make If Actor: Leonard Nimoy had refused to repise his role of Mr. Spock In the TV series. That would been awkward and It would have been very difficult to resolve. I might NOT have liked the Star Trek Phase II Vulcan Character of Xon portrayed by Actor: David Gautereux. I think It might have been a good idea to abandon the Ideas for Star Trek Phase II In favor of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Movie. At least the whole original cast was able reunite for the Star Trek: TOS movies.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters When Shatner and Nemoy spoke, you could hear a pin drop. They were simply God's on stage...impressive. Even the well dressed Klingons were silent.
As someone who has the privilege of seeing all 3 takes on Star Trek, the original series (when growingup), the next generation (which was my Favorite) and the Abrams depiction (which i was VERY critical of at first)...i can honestly say after watching the Abrams movies a few time i kind of wished they could have taken it to a series with ALL the crew for at least 1 year...but the actors and actresses all moved on to other movies...but just think what it could have been like with modern FX applications... Live Long and Prosper 🖖🖖🖖
This concept and characters wouldn't be a bad way to soft-reboot the Kelvin series. Could keep Pine and deliver on the promise of the '09 film, familiar characters in different scenarios.
The idea of a "4th Network" was in many ways inevitable, but it was another decade after Paramount's failure to launch before FOX managed to pull it off - and even then their first few years were *rough*. It is entirely likely that, between the economy at the time, and Paramount's inconsistent leadership and lack of courage, that Star Trek Phase II would have gotten only one or two anemic seasons before being cancelled - again - and we would have never gotten the movies... or Next Generation... or Deep Space Nine... or ... you get the picture. Or, more accurately, not.
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Called Freddy vs Jason vs Ash A Sequel
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@@horrorandmonsterfan952 I'm definitely going to do a couple halloween themed videos this year come October!
Actually something you should look in to were the post Voyager concepts as the star fleet academy which has kinda become Prodigy, along with the time travel series and even a post Nemesis Animated Star Trek Series are all tantalising as Alien3's Wooden Planet script.
I'm more interested in knowing more about the deep fakes of the Phase II Enterprise in the drydock images as I know those photos well and I know that the Phase II Enterprise was never fully completed to the point those deep fakes show.
Allegedly, Robert Able took the model, along with its molds, completed the model, but to more closely match the final TMP version as well as make additional models from the molds for use at Planet Hollywood, among other venues.
George Lucas' abandoned live action Star Wars tv series "Underworld" is something I'd love to see a video on!
I love the letter writing camapaign.. Snyder cut fans thought they pulled off a miracle but doing it with no internet is a legendary move.
Agreed. She went into the paramount mail room and stole addresses. Pretty ballsy
And now we need a new letter writing campaign for 'Stra Trek: Prodigy'. There is an online petition to save the show. I grew up with and adored TOS, loved TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and I think Prodigy is as good as them and needs to be saved.
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I'm sure most trek fans are aware of the fan film series Star Trek: Continues. imo, the best trek fan film series I've seen. Apart from the bridge and ship were built from the original blueprints, but the acting is really good. We even get Scott's real son playing Scotty. It starts exactly where season 3 ended on TV. Very enjoyable watch.
And the best is: the DVDs and Blurays are for free to download.
STC really has that TOS vibe, too.
May be time for a re-watch!
"Star Trek Continues" should have been picked up by cable or one of the networks. It is top shelf Star Trek, from the sets to the stories to the actors to the special effects. That it was fan-made is unbelievable. That there were only 11 episodes made is extremely saddening.
Love STC!
Made by people who really Love Trek,
not just to make money off it.
My only beef with STC as a lifelong Trekker since 70s, is they didn't account for Tas events.
Placing Stc as if it would have premiered fall of 69 and within weeks or months since Turnabout Intruder in Trek time, doesn't allow enough leeway for Tas to occur between Turnabout and Stc ep1.
Tas was considered to be picking up where Tos left off, continuing the Tos 5 year mission, with no more time between tos and tas than between Tos seasons, ie weeks or months. There was no question Tas was canon during its run, and I consider it such to this day.
Awesome breakdown and I didn't realize Shatner had the same issues that Nimoy had with the finances from the Network. Though I want to say Nimoy's refusal to sign on to more Star Trek was because he was bitter about being recognized only as Spock and that grew as he found out the studio was making a killing using his likeness without his permission which led to the lawsuit. In fact it was the studio needing Spock that caused the suit to be settled and Nimoy not only getting back pay but I believe gave him the contract that allowed him to direct later Star Trek 3 and 4.
Thanks and you’re 100% right
Funny how some of these problems between the networks and writers/actors being paid fairly have resurfaced with the recent strike.
Check out fan-made Star Trek going far back as 2002! iamgermane.blogspot.com/2014/06/new-star-trek-fan-made-episodes.html
Also explains some of the awful movies Shatner was in.
@@markenetube Seen Shatner's "Promise Butter" commercials from the early 1970s?
It would be really cool if they took these scripts and made a retro style animated series based on them, that would be really interesting to watch
There’s a live action fan series on RUclips
there was a animated original Star Trek series as well btw, starring the original cast. It only had like one season, and the animation was pretty low tier. But still worth watching if you love the show. They could explore some stuff they could not do with live actors since it was animated
I think most of the scripts were used in TNG weren't they?
Two were
@@mkohanekadmittedly, if the animated series had included elements of Phase II, that would've made it pretty interesting
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Shortly after Star Trek went of the air, the Neilson Ratings system added demographics. While the raw numbers were not great, the demographic numbers (in the highly desirable 20-40 range), were very good. If the ratings were calculated using demographics, NBC would have certainly given us a 4th season.
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Sadly with budget cuts and a foccus on the demo watching it, would of probably been bad trek
No telling what NBC might have done - it sounded like they were pretty much dead-set on getting rid of the show. Seems like there's always been a lot of that going around: FOX had a tendency to launch and then kill its own sci-fi shows, and the SyFy channel slaughtered more than a few of its better sci-fi programs in spite of enthusiastic (if small) fan bases in a desirable demographic, and the potential for shows to have done better with just a little more support from the networks. Just a small sample of the shows I recall getting clobbered by getting buried in "Graveyard Time Slots", pre-empted at the drop of a hat, rescheduled to mystery time slots without warning, subjected to brutal budget cuts and self-destructive executive interference (often taking the form of "science fiction is kiddie stuff, and doesn't need a budget or intelligent stories!"), and other such abuse include:
- The original 'Lost in Space' (destroyed by budget cuts and increasingly juvenile story elements)
- The original 'Doctor Who' (destroyed by budget cuts and misguided story elements forced by BBC)
- 'Millennium' (screwed by FOX with scheduling shenanigans and executive meddling, when this darker-and-edgier "sister program" to 'The X-Files' failed to attract the other program's huge audience)
- 'Firefly' (famous for being killed off by the network in spite of fan support)
- 'Babylon 5' (struggled with on-again-off-again network support leaving its originally-planned 5-year story arcs in constant doubt)
- 'Dark Matter' (killed off by SyFy for internal reasons in spite of fan support)
- 'Space: Above and Beyond' (killed off by network scheduling and budgeting shenanigans)
...and that's just a sample.
In FOX's case, it seems like there were the conflicting pressures of an executive team that hated sci-fi to begin with, struggling against the pressure to conjure up a show with immediate success comparable to that built up by 'The X-Files' over years, and the depressing fact that it costs much less to produce "reality" programming than it does to conjure up the special effects and story development budgets for sci-fi programming. The BBC was in a similar situation with the original 'Doctor Who' and 'Lost in Space': network "suits" hated or didn't understand the genre, and wanted to aim a virtually budget-less program at what was assumed to be a juvenile audience that would buy anything with space ships and aliens in it. The SyFy Channel's problems with 'Dark Matter' appear to have been dissatisfaction at the (creator-controlled) show's relative success compared to SyFy's own in-house programming, with 'Dark Matter' being replaced by a wrestling show of all things (which failed to draw any audience on SyFy!)
In general, genre programming runs into "cut off one's nose to spite one's face" kind of reaction from The Business; there's a lack of respect for genre programming in the network business, which doesn't mix well with the expense involved in creating a good sci-fi program compared to alternatives like "reality" programming.
I've a feeling NBC would have killed 'Star Trek' off even if it had understood the show's demographic better! They seemed pretty relieved to have gotten rid of it, even after their competitors were surprising themselves by making bank with it in syndication....
I was part of the letter-writing campaign to save Trek, along with a similar campaign to rename the first shuttle the Enterprise. I still have a personal letter thank you letter from Bjo Trimble.
That’s awesome. And thank you :)
Man, that was great info. I never knew that Shatner had to live in a camper and that Nimoy would hang up the phone when contacted for casting Spock. Also, fans were mad about them replacing Spock and threating to kill off his replacement - WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all going to make great conversation over the next couple of days. Thanks for Sharing!
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it
James Cawley's Star Trek New Voyages (Phase II) kind of covered the remaining years of the '5 year mission' as a fan series, but ultimately Paramount pulled the plug on allowing longer fan-made shows. This fan series had a lot of input and involvement from TOS original cast and crew, and even had some eps from scripts that were never produced by Gene Roddenberry. Think the Cawley-made show was one of the better efforts as far as fan-made material went.
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I have to agree. At first I was put off by the same things that I hear mentioned by most people who see it: it causes anxiety when you're hearing somebody say the names of Kirk and Bones, followed by you seeing that responding actors clearly aren't Shatner or Kelley and the quality of the (at that time) modern camera exposing all of the seams and painted cardboard sets that were hidden by the low fidelity limitations of the old cameras that were used when the show was first aired are two issues that immediately come to mind. However, once I grew accustomed to these changes and could approach the story on fair terms, I discovered that it was actually good stuff. Even if a viewer can't go as far I have in saying that it's "good", one absolutely cannot deny that it's Trek. It captures that Trek feel and manages to Trek all over that small screen just like the big boys used to do. As much as I appreciate TAS and absolutely consider it to be season 4 of the original 5 year mission, there is room in my head canon to accommodate the lore that added by New Voyages as beta content.
I was a young kid in the early 80's. We watched Star Trek every time it was on. And even my own kid watches old Star Trek, yeah its old but it is interesting and provides plenty of brain food
The Star Trek animated series was the jewel. As the special effects to launch those episodes did not exist in the late 60s, they produced a cartoon series with the original cast doing the voice overs. Some of those episodes were amazing. It was available as a DVD set years ago.
the stories were great, but the animation was done on the cheap. I was 13 when it came out and was used to warner brothers cartoons and this thing seemed so stiff and cheap but they were all the original voices, which shows what could have been. I will never forget the next year just expecting it to be back on, and it wasn't. I thought this must be a mistake, it will be on next week, nope, it was cancelled. It won like best animated series then was cancelled.
I was just a bit too young to remember the animated series when it was new - most of my cartoon-watching was back in the late '70s and early '80s, when cheap animation was pretty much normal on Saturday mornings! (See most Hanna-Barberra programming available at the time....) So, the animation never bothered me.
But, the fact that there weren't many episodes of it, combined with the fact that it only rarely turned up in programming in my day, meant that it was a weird sort of situation of vaguely remembering a couple episodes of "that weird Star Trek cartoon" turning up among our Saturday Morning Cartoon watching somewhere in a random soup of disjointed programming that might have included "Star Blazers", "Rocky and Bullwinkle", "Wonder Woman", "Speed Racer", "Laugh-O-Lympics", the "Three Stooges" cartoon, "Captain Caveman", "Ultra-Man", "The Electric Company", the "Bugs Bunny and Road-Runner" show, "Lost in Space", "The Muppet Show", "The Bowery Boys", "Japanese Spiderman", "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", "Popeye", "Space: 1999", "The Green Hornet", "Space Ghost", "Woody Woodpecker", some strange '60s cartoon show that kind of randomly featured Namor the Sub-Mariner or the Incredible Hulk or Thor or the Fantastic Four with minimalist animation, "Jonny Quest", Godzilla movies, "Three Stooges" shorts, "Super-Friends", Hammer horror movies, or pretty much anything and everything else our local TV station happened to have available and felt like showing that weekend.
The TV Guide may or may not have given you an accurate idea of whatever was scheduled for that Saturday morning, so you just woke up, turned on the TV, and watched whatever the hell came on, in vague confusion enhanced by a sugary breakfast cereal rush and a blur of loud commecial ads.
With 20/20 hindsight, there was a vaguely psychedelic quality to the whole experience, and I can't help thinking the target audience was as much former-hippies as it was their children.
Really, it was a strange time to watch TV!
I remember the animated series, but not too fondly. It was cheaply done.
Had been waiting for this video for a bit, phase 2 is such a weird what if but I think in the end it all worked out for Star Trek as a whole
Agreed!
Literally just watched a video of the original Enterprise model at the Smithsonian (on Adam Savage's channel) then this showed up! Always enjoy watching your work!
Very cool! I’m gonna check that out. Thanks!
You have a good taste in RUclips.
In addition to a new Star Trek series to anchor UPN in the 90s, that happened again when CBS, holding the IP rights, launched “CBS All Access” as a streaming service, with Star Trek: Discovery as a show exclusive to the service. Other new Trek shows soon followed, and “CBS All Access” rebranded to “Paramount+” when CBS and Paramount merged, bringing Star Trek IP ownership back to Paramount.
100%
Interesting fact about the episode THE CHILD. It was written after an episode of SPACE: 1999 called ALPHA CHILD was aired and both episodes have similar story elements.
Interesting. Thnx for sharing!
1999 also had a shape-changer crew member before DS9.
Leonard Nimoy had to have possessed great discipline to keep from cracking a smile when popping up in a Carol Burnett skit. I can understand how Nimoy didn’t want to be type cast, but looking back now, Nimoy’s Spock had one of the most positive impacts on generation after generation. Same with Shatner’s Kirk. But they really did get screwed over in multiple avenues. Yeah, who would know in 1966 how much of a phenomenon Star Trek would become, but…
What a shame they couldn't make Star Trek phase II work. To quote a famous Klingon Commander, "It would have been glorious!". 😉😸
This should have been longer.
Make a part 2, please
There was a new magazine released in the early 70s called STARLOG . It started as a STAR TREK fan magazine , until STAR WARS became a worldwide hit . Then it became a science fiction magazine . Anyway , I think it was made to help with the release of the PHASE 2 series . From what I remember reading , the new series would have a new cast and a different objective : being more about the Federation and it's politics instead of just being about the USS Enterprise and crew .
10:05 not Gatreux but Judson Scott as Joachim In Wrath of Khan!!!
I loved this series! I have the whole first season on HD-DVD after wearing out my Betamax tapes and I remember playing the video game on the Sega Pluto. "Kitumba" is amazing to watch on my 70" rear projection TV and the commentary by cast and crew was fascinating to hear what they had planned for in Season 2. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
That's awesome! My pleasure
@somebuddyX - where did you see this aired at please? Would love to see this in it's entirety!! Thanks!!
This is the best video I’ve seen on this subject, really good work.
Wow, thanks!
NBC has never been good at understanding their customers wants and needs.
That explains quite a lot....
MOST-DETAILED video I've yet seen on the subject (and as a life-long Trekkie, I've watched a LOT!) - with the most relevant footage, interviews with cast and crew, context, ramifications, etc.! VERY well-done! LLAP! ;-)
Wow, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
I didn't learn anything new, but that's because I'm a super informed nut. The video itself seemed well researched and over accurate and pretty well made. Nice job! 😅
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Good video, but FYI you have the wrong actor pictured instead of David Gautreaux at 10:06. You have Judson Scott pictured instead, who is from Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan.
Thanks! And I know. I didn't realize until after I uploaded it. Oh well.
11:24 I really thought you were gonna say that Riker was the sex-positive character
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The headshot at 10:05 is Judson Scott who was in Star Trek II, not David Gautreaux.
Nice catch! They look identical haha
Yes, Judson Scott played Joachim, Khan's right-hand man on the Reliant (Star Trek II). David Gautreaux actually appears in Star Trek: The Motion Picture as Commander Branch, the man in charge of the Epsilon 9 listening post. I'm glad that they included him in the movie, since Phase II fizzled out.
Judson Scott who was also lieutenant James in V the series
@@Andyssea and as Knight One in the first season of Babylon 5.
At 2:48 That’s John Belushi and Chevy Chase, who weren’t exactly in TOS, or any of the franchise.
The triangular Enterprise drawings were a reality already. On the show Fireball XL-5 in the episode "Invasion Earth" the alien invaders flew ships like the one in the drawing.
Wow Hollywood is good at low balling actors.
Yup. I feel bad for them. And then when shatner and nimoy asked for a raise after the fourth movie, paramount went ahead with tng to replace them.
That's why there's a writer's and actors strike going on right now!
Yup
WHAT WE SEE OF DAVID GAUTREAUX AS XON IS GREAT -- HE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT.
I skipped everything in my list to watch this right away 👍
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The mini dress and go go boot uniforms still look good. 😂
Would have loved to see this entire series eventually broadcast. It would have been interesting no doubt. Thank you for the history of the show here and insights to the "things to have come but never did" as a result. Awesome upload!!!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, very interesting because I didn't know any of this!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Great job on this, truly fascinating!!!!!!
So much series history jammed into this video that I lost track. But I see many parallels between characters in different shows.
This is completely fascinating
The protests to save the show are so amazing
I was 11 when the TV show first aired, that and Batman. What a year, a much simpler time. God, I miss those days.
Same
Photo is not of David Gatreaux, but Judson Scott - Khan's henchman Joachim from The Wrath of Khan
Great video in that it brought new information I hadn't heard before.
Star Trek Phase II a series was eventually produced with one season of 10 episodes between 2004 and 2016.
I honestly wouldn't mind an animated version of this shoe, between tos s3 and the motion picture
There’s a fan version on RUclips: new voyages
That is called Star Trek: The Animated Series, FWIW.
@@JoshuaMPattontrue, and though the animation is quite stiff, the stories are decent, particularly Yesteryear
"Number 1" is uttered in the original pilot...The Cage.
Uncover what happened with JOSH TRANK'S FANT4STIC FOUR (2015) or ROGER CORMAN'S FANTASTIC FOUR (1994)
Your Star Trek videos never disappoint! Happy Star Trek day! (Have any teasers for next video?)
Thanks! Haven’t decided yet. Need a day off first haha
Great video. So cool to see how it all came to be. I had no knowledge of so many of these details
First time I've seen one of your videos. Even though I have watched a few things on Phase 2 I really like this and found it interesting.
Thanks and welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed it.
Even though I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan by any means I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond this is still an incredibly cool what if and it definitely would have been interesting to see what trejectory the franchise would have gone if Star Trek Phase 2 released instead of Star Trek The Motion Picture
100% definitely an alternate timeline if made. And imagine it gets cancelled too. Wonder if the movies ever happen.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters I know right definitely a crazy alternate timeline lol
"I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond"
Picard, his face in his hands
Hats off 👏 and happy birthday!
The Jeffries redesign of the Enterprise is stunningly beautiful, and honestly the best looking Starfleet ship ever created.
I was glad they added it to Star Trek Online through the 10th Anniversary Legendary Starship Bundles.
Hard to believe that a show could run without paying the actors residuals. That would be discouraging I am sure. Shatner and Nimoy had appearances in other things prior to Star Trek which showed they had the talents they brought to the roles they made huge. People loved all the characters, Interesting theat Captain Spock and Captain Kirk were both at that rank on the bridge at the end and poor Ensign Kim could not get promoted that whole time on Voyager. lol
All these decades and I never knew Xon and Kahn's #2 were the same actor.
They’re not. I dropped in the wrong headshot by mistake. However they look identical!
That was a mistake. The photo of Judson Scott (Wrath of Khan's Joachim) is not David Gatreaux!
LSD?!
Oh wow, man.
Never knew that! Great video!
Something not mentioned, the bridge set from TMP became the battle bridge on TNG and corridor walls from TMP were also reused on TNG by simply turning them upside down, as well as the warp core from TMP.
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Almost 45 years later and I STILL hate the Star Trek TMP pajama uniforms!
Oh... My... GLOB. Zahn was Kahn’s Joachim!
Some TNG episodes were based on Phase 2 scripts. (E.G. TNG The Child S2E01 was a rewritten Phase 2 story.)
Walter Koenig was blessed with his CV. Star Trek. And then Babylon 5, which got Shakespearean at times, especially in the scenes between Londo and G’Kar.
"threatening to poison him". Damn I guess sometimes Fandom gets...toxic
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You got David Gautreaux mixed up with Judson Scott at 10:05.
I know :(
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Still a great video though. Very insightful. Gave it a like and a share.
Thank you my friend!
omg Star Trek and I have the same birthday!
Interesting bit of trivia: the tv ad announcing Trek's move to Friday nights uses the same font that would later be used in the 1980s for titles of Trek novels published by Pocket Books.
What a magnificent series Phase II would have been.
Thank you so much for this video
Star Trek influenced so many of my generation into becoming Doctors Nurses Scientists
Astronomers and on and on.
I hope these dear people - sadly most of them gone now - most of us were children or teenagers in 1966 - know/knew
How much they were Loved and
Respected.
Thankyou again
❤🙏
I wish all of you
A very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
God bless 🙏
And same to you! All the best!!!
and this is why you rock big guy didnt know this lol
Thanks :)
Crazy that Shatner had to live in a camper van after the original series!
Well history repeats itself as Paramount will again come out with their own network. This time a streaming service, and they had Star Trek Discovery to lead it
Great point
With a ship that looks at least a bit similar to the McQuarrie concept drawings.
Once again utterly screwing it up
first lol got a cold cherry Pepsi new episode thank you boss man been waiting for a new 1
Wow that was fast haha
@@Bulletsandblockbusters was on here already looking to do shorts just learning but mine will have a puzzle contest in the shorts with steam keys lol like hidden in them trying to see if it can and if anybody ever do it
That’s awesome. I look forward to it
@@Bulletsandblockbusters like say i take a cut of say 1 of your episodes right 60 secs steam keys are 3 sets of letters and numbers find a way to use the background like here when it say star trek in the back may the first set has a R in the key hide numbers then in comments leave link to episode do 3 parts for each game keys and this way i wont steal peoples memes just saying
@@johnaraya3761 Do what you like :)
What a great video! thanks!
I really hope that the footage of phase 2 footage will be released on DVD.
After watching a young daper Kirk,I could not relate to an old Picard and never could get into TNG. When Voyager came out I was hooked again,a young crew,all good looking members and a great story line. Especially the time travel episodes. The way that series ended was great
I wonder what the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been like If It did happen In the 1970's ?! I do agree with the Star Trek Phase II TV series Executive Producers that the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been difficult to make If Actor: Leonard Nimoy had refused to repise his role of Mr. Spock In the TV series. That would been awkward and It would have been very difficult to resolve. I might NOT have liked the Star Trek Phase II Vulcan Character of Xon portrayed by Actor: David Gautereux. I think It might have been a good idea to abandon the Ideas for Star Trek Phase II In favor of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Movie. At least the whole original cast was able reunite for the Star Trek: TOS movies.
If you want to know what Phase II would have been like just watch the first season of TNG.
Thank you for your Recommendation !
Excellent content good sir!
Thank you Mr Fassbender
Brilliantly done. Thanks so much.
You're very welcome!
Loved this episode and it would have been excellent to have had a spinoff !
Damn that khan kick was awesome.
EXCELLENT episode!
Thanks!
"Ten years after ..."
The Earth-Minbari War!
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The time-travel episode with Joan Collin’s was set in the 1930s, not coinciding with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
It was actually the next generation which was the anchor for the launch of UPN Network back in 1989
Fascinating. 👍
2:30 LOL, I finally figured it out. I was puzzled by "Net" knowing there was NO internet in those days. Oh [slaps forehead] they mean TV Network!
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I went to a Seattle convention in 1991 with both Shatner and Nemoy. It was an interesting experience that I will never forget.
I’m jealous!
@@Bulletsandblockbusters When Shatner and Nemoy spoke, you could hear a pin drop. They were simply God's on stage...impressive. Even the well dressed Klingons were silent.
Haha
That's not a picture of David Gautreaux at 10:06 that's Judson Scott from Star Trek II.
I know. I messed up :(
As someone who has the privilege of seeing all 3 takes on Star Trek, the original series (when growingup), the next generation (which was my Favorite) and the Abrams depiction (which i was VERY critical of at first)...i can honestly say after watching the Abrams movies a few time i kind of wished they could have taken it to a series with ALL the crew for at least 1 year...but the actors and actresses all moved on to other movies...but just think what it could have been like with modern FX applications...
Live Long and Prosper 🖖🖖🖖
This concept and characters wouldn't be a bad way to soft-reboot the Kelvin series. Could keep Pine and deliver on the promise of the '09 film, familiar characters in different scenarios.
Love that idea
Well, unlike some of these types of “uncoverings,” this one was interesting!
The idea of a "4th Network" was in many ways inevitable, but it was another decade after Paramount's failure to launch before FOX managed to pull it off - and even then their first few years were *rough*. It is entirely likely that, between the economy at the time, and Paramount's inconsistent leadership and lack of courage, that Star Trek Phase II would have gotten only one or two anemic seasons before being cancelled - again - and we would have never gotten the movies... or Next Generation... or Deep Space Nine... or ... you get the picture. Or, more accurately, not.
Well said. Interestingly fox grew out of the failed paramount network.
That’s Judson Scott at 10:06 not David Gautreaux
I'd love to see this "Phase 2".
I'm sure they had already showed a Star Fleet bar/recreational area in one of the movies (Star Trek III?)
Enterprise's rec area was seen in Charlie X and other episodes of the original series
They had a break room on TOS where we would see Spock playing 3-d chess. 😊
Ha, I had one of those Heineken ads with Spock on them! New Eye Studio was selling them in the 90's.
10:05 that's Judson Scott (who was Khan's right-hand man in Star Trek II)
I know I f’d up lol
Not bad, some funny choices in the clips shown when talking. Good voice too compared to a lot of RUclipsrs.
The description of Zan sounds kind of like Data in the Next Generation.
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Yep, Xon was Data, Decker was Riker, Ilea was Troi.
5:48 this is not footage of any Star Trek tv show that wasn’t made. It’s from an ABC movie of the week starring William Shatner. Look it up.
Wow it’s good to know just how miserly these Hollywood Execs were.