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In their defense, sentinels have gotten so much better but they’re not beating a team like gen g unless luck is involved heavily. I think in 10 games against gen g they’ll win 1, maybe in split 1 but now gen g is too good
@@blakemaxwell7175 what kind of luck tho? sen won back in madrid despite alr conceded a lost to geng and being in the lower bracket, geng fought tooth and nail to win both apac and shanghai and now this opening match.
@@blakemaxwell7175 I’ll be honest bro, very unbiased view from me I don’t actually have any fav player or team. Whatever that was wasn’t luck. There was no point sen could have won, they get out strated & outgunned by gen g. Maybe w a team like lev for example, when they get out strated they got really good firepower, sen are worst on both ends. Like someone else said, sen couldn’t really improve much over the first split imo
Feel asleep?? Nah bro, their PC started acting up I swear, I could feel the frame drops, the unstretched monitors and silent audio (no foot steps), riot gotta stop sabotaging SEN
Expected win for GEN.G but I bet most of us hoped for matches to be more intense from both sides and closer because the series felt like an alligator fighting against paralyzed chihuahua. SENsational win for GEN.G
@joshchambers9922 honestly, sentinelsbwere making some stupid plays especially knowing how gen g plays. Tenz died to I believe munchkin 3 times from him playing slow and lurking, while tenz rotated a bit to quickly or just in his smoke animation.
With how clutch meteor is, how smart Munchkin is, how insane texture is, how confident Karon is, and how flexible lakia is, there’s no beating this team. Congrats GenG for winning Champs
@@javieralmendras506 if aspas has a bad day just pray to god cause its wraps for LEV, even if they have the similar firepower, they can never outstrats the likes of geng. Their closest competitors are fnc and drx
Chiiiiiilllllll Calling out victory WAAAAAY TOO EARLY. Literally first day of Champions lol They’re definitely favorites but they aren’t unbeatable. They’ve already been beaten this season and even Fnatic went out in 5th place in Champs last year despite winning both international LANs prior.
I think SEN comes across as a bit arrogant and overconfident. After winning in Madrid, they couldn't even make it to Shanghai and people says they were too tired or didn't have time. Meanwhile, GENG also reached the finals in Madrid but still made it to Shanghai and won the trophy. They only secured their spot thanks to LEVIATAN. Plus, they brought that ineffective Deadlock strategy to the international stage. Definitely overrated SHIT NGL
man i stayed up to 4pm with work at 9am hoping the opening match to champs would be a gigabanger. went to sleep before map 2 even finished with how dissapointed i was, sen looked much worse than usual
Overall I think the whole series mirrors the 1st upper bracket finals at Madrid almost exactly. The main issue of SEN here again is too much respect and too much care given to GEN.G, allowing them huge map control and essentially the freedom to run their playbook. On attack, they face the same issues of timidness leading to time runouts and poor commits with bad info due to the unwillingness to fight for control on the map. Platoon made a pretty good analysis of this on his vid on Madrid and I'd really like to see the adaptations they put on in the Madrid finals be put into action here (fighting just as a team for every inch of space, peeking with balls of steel for info).
Haven was a comp dif and sens individuals were completely out played but surely they’ve learned that the deadlock comp sucks you have minimal info and no retake util makes no sense
Deadlock is fine, sentinels just doesn't know how to play with deadlock, their plan with deadkock is really bad, like they don't know how to defend with deadlock
@@sebastiansalvatore8365 they don’t know how to defend bc they don’t have info 😭 deadlock isn’t bad there comp is bad and deadlock doesn’t fit in the comp you can play dead lock they just don’t have info on where pushes are so there rotates are Super late
@@mrduckrush1939 the deadlock cypher comp is very strong on ascent because it directly counters kayo and denies executes. the reason why it doesn't work out for sen is because firstly johnqt is using deadlock wrong, he's using it to cut rotates and lurks which doesn't really work. and more importantly it doesn't suit sen's defence playstyle of set retakes. if they are going to focus mainly on retakes they're better off with the multitude of kayo utility. and to be honest they shouldn't even be focusing on retakes anymore, after madrid teams have been smarter in saving utility to deny retakes
@@mrduckrush1939 that comp is not bad bro what r u on lol fnc ran that comp in emea and rolled over vit. the deadlock cypher comp has been played in na t2 for a long while now and is extremely strong just accept that sen cant play deadlock
@@onlymylovable yeah I’m not arguing that cypher deadlock is bad I don’t think it’s good on ascent you need to be proactive on ascent without a flash that’s impossible I get the point of it is to counter kayo but commiting 2 agents to deny an ult you get 2-3 times a half isn’t worth that’s why the default comp is so good it does everything well
I was really confused why they didn't put Cypher util on A with how much of a headache Munchkins lurking was. Yeah, it might not be ideal, but Cypher util full retake sounds more reasonable than 3 people trying to hold for 1 lurker.
@ethanwood1737 They ended up having to play retake anyway with what they did, just worse because the one player on site kept dying for free, because no agent other than Cypher in their comp can watch 2 paths at once. You could even still have the same trips and just put the cam on A or something like that, but with that Viper setup, you can never safely leave a solo player alone on A without any Cypher util.
yeah, you can't let GenG get into their rhythm for a setup, deny them their execs and post plants, once they entrench it's extremely hard to fight them. They have a deep playbook, your best shot against them in my opinion is guerilla warfare. Force them out of their comfort zone. Take unconventional fights using the buddy system at all times, no solo duels, you can't get caught out like TenZ did on Haven A site solo, you strictly play alone for info and then you play off the info. They have a few young players that can get rattled if it doesn't go their way early. Before recently, PRX was a strong rival of theirs I believe for that reason. GenG even adopted some of their macro play. They are very, very, VERY strong individually as well and can also get scrappy. Probably the scariest team (without even looking at last masters event)
10:15 also I can't figure out why John is looking at B main from C link when he has a trip for it. He should be scaled closer to A link by then, he has 3 numbers on A already and need to be closer to reinforce faster. Just my opinion, im not the pro.
this reminds me of sentinels vs fnatic lock/in where first map was haven and one single turret in garage fucked their attack. now one viper wall fucked their defense. damn. whats with sen and bad haven games man!
im calling it now, this is going to be a GEN.G vs TH or FNATIC vs GEN.G or GEN.G vs Leviatan. there are no other contender (for me) that can be topped by these 4 teams in internationals.
I'm still skeptical about Leviathan. They are one of the good teams that can be terrible at some point. Fnatic went 1-2 against GenG last time on a really close match. If anyone it's gonna be them who potentially might face GenG on the grand finals.
I swear someone left Xray on, on Munchkins PC. The lurk in round 16 could not be timed more perfectly, the MOMENT TenZ turned to leave A short Munchkin walked up. His timing is unreal.
i still can't understand why sen is picking haven anyways instead of maps like bind , sunset, lotus( maybe not sure about lotus) ... in which they have very good protocols n in which they shine the best
Keeping Haven aside for a second, someone please tell me why they went with that weird buy on Ascent when the score was 6-8. It made absolutely no sense (to me) because GenG was leading and was gonna come with a full buy this round
As a cypher main, i think its really dumb not to use ur trips EVERY ROUND. That is the main power of cypher. You cannot allow some to get behind you undetected as cypher. All sent had to do to counter than lurk/split round is use cyphers util. the coaching staff should be ashamed.
@@steverho3280but… the lurk threat was essentially always on A… you’d expect them to have adapted after like… the second time they got caught with a trip at A… but no why not have 3 guys watching for the flank 😓
@@DeltaBun Well what if Munchkin does break those trips? What's ur option now? U still have to bring people there. So round starts, Munchkin viper walls up, breaks the short trip and people have to rotate. A cypher makes no difference its way more useful to have it control garage and the c flood out of main
@@whyar3y0uga34 place the trips somewhere more passive then. Or have their cypher play aggro on short since he can escape with his cage? Or he can also just solo anchor A then play for retake. Idk Cypher can pretty much shut down a viper lurk fairly easily on split- and Haven is no difference.
@@steverho3280 they used one on b, but only one can u imagine he uses the other on a (AS HE SHOULD) to cover the part of the map NO ONE is watch???? that's would I would do but the pros......no. its ridiculous and sens deserve to lose. they should be embarrassed.
(havent watched the vid yet but was in tmv's stream) Obv Gen G played very good and just shot insanely good. BUT looking at some rounds i really felt like sen shouldnt have been at this event in general. Especially looking at some things Gen G did every single time they could and Sen just not adjusting to it at all
Honestly I might be wrong on this issue, but I think sen comp isn’t bad, however I have an idea, one way I think you could counter this is play a similar three sentinel comp to m80 lotus where you could pair a deadlock wall in a lobby and cypher cam long to deny space, forcing someone to deliberately shoot it, I will try an think about how it would work, however for attack most retake choke points are small on haven, so util like sage walls and deadlock walls could make retaking fucking cancer, I’m prolly smoking something tho, if you read this give me your opinion tbh
Would moving cipher to A and having him have a lurk off with both cam and trips worked? Would have taken at least two rounds to figure out and open up the map.
If SEN are gonna keep playing like this, I want FPX to beat them purely for the sentiment that that we don't have to watch any more of this boring shit in playoffs.
Sentinels is overrated in the pro scene in NA. That being said, I wish the Americas had SA and NA. The fact the two continents share a pool and China has their own pool is insane to me.
Zekken on OP and jett has like 0 impact on the team and they have bad comps so maybe this is why they're really bad? I don't think it's because of the players but mainly because of roles.
Group B is the group of death guys!!! well, it was supposed to be (only because SEN was incredibly overrated and the big fan base), but the outcome of group b is so obvious. You cant possibly believe SEN will win even a map with all the shit that the players on that team have had going on, and the fact they have just looked weak anyways, They need a mental reset and to be grouped instantly.
They're too good. There's a good chance they'll win champs. TH hasn't been doing well without patitek. I like to think Lev can stand up to Geng but aspas can only do so much
Fnatic made the blueprint to play against this comp last season, just play sentinel on A. The fact that sen didn't one homework that even after knowing the comp or two adjust into it shows that this is not the team that won Madrid. Or Madrid was just a washed tournament
SEN can tone down that arrogance now. the amount of excuses sen players give is insane. now they can enjoy their vacation early. FPX are gonna roll them. even if they get past them, Heretics will demolish them. here's to 3 more years of mediocrity. thank god this aint like a proper league system with relegation and shid.
I think this is more like Sentinels underperforming rather than Gen G playing well like ok they are good but Sentinels looked lost. They won Masters Madrid because of the shitty kickoff format that knocks away excellent teams like Fnatic and Navi. The teams that qualifies to Masters Madrid are new teams like PRX has just changed roster, Gen G too, then KC and Heretics who the hell are them, and then there are the chinese team who cant do anything at this point, and then for americas Loud is also in a shaky performance without aspas.
deadlock is a troll pick in ranked this masters winning team expects for to be good in pro play.... 8-4 on a fkn defend sided map with 2 sentinals how bad can u be....
IMO if john wants to make their comps more interesting, I would highly recommend them using skye instead of deadlock. Skye is just way more viable like the flashes and heal but deadlock utils are not gonna work on top tier teams.
@@Lapulga20-kick what are you smoking brah? Did you watch lev dismantling g2 in finals with deadlock(13:4), and day before, kru? Its just sen that suck with that comp and dont know to play it. Lev has proven that that comps works, really well, if you know what youre doing. Even fnatic played that comp and had success.
@@draganmicic2295 no bro, deadlock utils are not that impactful on ascent. You're crazy if you think deadlock is good. If Lev can do that, doesn't mean other teams can do the same.
@@Lapulga20-kick he says Even fnatic played the comp and tons of t2 valorant teams plays that comp, it's a really good counter to kay/o and Jett, but sentinels just doesn't know how to play it
I think saying they got destroyed is a bit harsh. In map 1 they got unlucky several times and lost several clutches that they probably win 9/10 times. Sure they didn’t adapt to the lurk plays but they otherwise played pretty well against the best team in the tournament
Bro they played horribly, they are going to lose against teams like geng g2 and lev if they don't start adapting and if they don't play their normal comps instead of comps with breach or deadlock that they don't know how to play with, like they Lost defender site in ascent with two sentinels, and they Lost 13-7, and they stated with defense, they are really bad rn
luck and timing works for the one who has made sure to be in a situation to actually take advantage of it saying you got unlucky is loser mentality they got 2 0 ed and rolled
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And SEN started blasting…
Selling that 1v3 round 1 was basically foreshadowing the entire series
In their defense, sentinels have gotten so much better but they’re not beating a team like gen g unless luck is involved heavily. I think in 10 games against gen g they’ll win 1, maybe in split 1 but now gen g is too good
@@Fc11124 I think they peaked early and just haven’t been able to improve as much as all the other teams over the course of the season
@@Fc11124luck was on gen.g side more than sen’s. Just like it was on sen’s side during GF
@@blakemaxwell7175 what kind of luck tho? sen won back in madrid despite alr conceded a lost to geng and being in the lower bracket, geng fought tooth and nail to win both apac and shanghai and now this opening match.
@@blakemaxwell7175 I’ll be honest bro, very unbiased view from me I don’t actually have any fav player or team. Whatever that was wasn’t luck. There was no point sen could have won, they get out strated & outgunned by gen g. Maybe w a team like lev for example, when they get out strated they got really good firepower, sen are worst on both ends. Like someone else said, sen couldn’t really improve much over the first split imo
The amount of impact kills Munchkin had across both maps was absolutely ridiculous.
SEN got rolled by GenG in both strategy and shooting.
SEN were doing ok in the first 7 rounds of the game and then they fell asleep for the rest of the series
Feel asleep?? Nah bro, their PC started acting up I swear, I could feel the frame drops, the unstretched monitors and silent audio (no foot steps), riot gotta stop sabotaging SEN
@@kneegear5123u are so weird
@@kneegear5123cope harder lmao
@@AomiAoki1hes mocking sen
Expected win for GEN.G but I bet most of us hoped for matches to be more intense from both sides and closer because the series felt like an alligator fighting against paralyzed chihuahua. SENsational win for GEN.G
FPX vs TH delivered what we expected from Gen.G SEN
@@pengu0-Not a chance I expected sen to take geng to overtime twice. Sentinels are a 4th seed and Geng are expected to win the tournament
@@pengu0- bruhh fpx vs th lotus map is battle of throwing
@joshchambers9922 honestly, sentinelsbwere making some stupid plays especially knowing how gen g plays. Tenz died to I believe munchkin 3 times from him playing slow and lurking, while tenz rotated a bit to quickly or just in his smoke animation.
No offense to sentinels , but if geng didnt dominate them , id be kinda worried for them for the rest of the tourney
Munchkin went crazy on attack cannot lie. the amount of impact he had was nuts
With how clutch meteor is, how smart Munchkin is, how insane texture is, how confident Karon is, and how flexible lakia is, there’s no beating this team. Congrats GenG for winning Champs
LEV
@@javieralmendras506 lev would prolly get rolled bro ngl , fnc have a better chance
@@javieralmendras506 if aspas has a bad day just pray to god cause its wraps for LEV, even if they have the similar firepower, they can never outstrats the likes of geng. Their closest competitors are fnc and drx
its the first match... you never know what might happen
Chiiiiiilllllll
Calling out victory WAAAAAY TOO EARLY. Literally first day of Champions lol
They’re definitely favorites but they aren’t unbeatable. They’ve already been beaten this season and even Fnatic went out in 5th place in Champs last year despite winning both international LANs prior.
I think SEN comes across as a bit arrogant and overconfident. After winning in Madrid, they couldn't even make it to Shanghai and people says they were too tired or didn't have time. Meanwhile, GENG also reached the finals in Madrid but still made it to Shanghai and won the trophy. They only secured their spot thanks to LEVIATAN. Plus, they brought that ineffective Deadlock strategy to the international stage. Definitely overrated SHIT NGL
If geng go on to win champs, tight schedule can never be a reason again
Ineffective deadlock comp? Now thats just cap. It definitely works, SEN just fucking suck at it. They’re single handedly tanking that comp’s winrate.
agreed the excuses make no sense when geng exists
@@Fluskarjust bc it works against bad teams in T2 doesnt mean it works
@@westhefitting4105 “bad teams” 💀
Fnatic literally played that exact deadlock/ cypher comp against bbl on june 19th and won
Sentinels didnt watch the Elevated Antistrat it seems
Do you have a link for that video?
man i stayed up to 4pm with work at 9am hoping the opening match to champs would be a gigabanger. went to sleep before map 2 even finished with how dissapointed i was, sen looked much worse than usual
Overall I think the whole series mirrors the 1st upper bracket finals at Madrid almost exactly. The main issue of SEN here again is too much respect and too much care given to GEN.G, allowing them huge map control and essentially the freedom to run their playbook. On attack, they face the same issues of timidness leading to time runouts and poor commits with bad info due to the unwillingness to fight for control on the map. Platoon made a pretty good analysis of this on his vid on Madrid and I'd really like to see the adaptations they put on in the Madrid finals be put into action here (fighting just as a team for every inch of space, peeking with balls of steel for info).
Is it just me or does SEN have a pattern of sending Zekken into no man’s land alone on Haven?
Reminds me of tenz jett in haven during lock in last year
@@kesoube4040 atleast that series jett tenz performs better than zekken jetts this series
@@skradobbi not sure how that is relevant tbh
Haven was a comp dif and sens individuals were completely out played but surely they’ve learned that the deadlock comp sucks you have minimal info and no retake util makes no sense
Deadlock is fine, sentinels just doesn't know how to play with deadlock, their plan with deadkock is really bad, like they don't know how to defend with deadlock
@@sebastiansalvatore8365 they don’t know how to defend bc they don’t have info 😭 deadlock isn’t bad there comp is bad and deadlock doesn’t fit in the comp you can play dead lock they just don’t have info on where pushes are so there rotates are Super late
@@mrduckrush1939 the deadlock cypher comp is very strong on ascent because it directly counters kayo and denies executes. the reason why it doesn't work out for sen is because firstly johnqt is using deadlock wrong, he's using it to cut rotates and lurks which doesn't really work. and more importantly it doesn't suit sen's defence playstyle of set retakes. if they are going to focus mainly on retakes they're better off with the multitude of kayo utility. and to be honest they shouldn't even be focusing on retakes anymore, after madrid teams have been smarter in saving utility to deny retakes
@@mrduckrush1939 that comp is not bad bro what r u on lol fnc ran that comp in emea and rolled over vit. the deadlock cypher comp has been played in na t2 for a long while now and is extremely strong just accept that sen cant play deadlock
@@onlymylovable yeah I’m not arguing that cypher deadlock is bad I don’t think it’s good on ascent you need to be proactive on ascent without a flash that’s impossible I get the point of it is to counter kayo but commiting 2 agents to deny an ult you get 2-3 times a half isn’t worth that’s why the default comp is so good it does everything well
Intense game
Sen vs Gen.G ❌️
FPX vs TH 📈
Show the kj c retake ult that was insane
Broooo that moment was insane, never saw an ult like that
@@chris-lh6olEG used it last year a bit
can someone link a clip?
@@Amplified28 ruclips.net/video/SmfK0b8kRl4/видео.htmlsi=4m2zQbVeOwtr9OFd
@@Amplified28basically GEN. G placed the ult so SEN couldn't run long, effectively trapping them on site and not allowing them to play postplant
Least surprising result of the season
I was really confused why they didn't put Cypher util on A with how much of a headache Munchkins lurking was. Yeah, it might not be ideal, but Cypher util full retake sounds more reasonable than 3 people trying to hold for 1 lurker.
They didn’t want to retake though. Viper utility in the post plant is basically a free win for the attacking team
Remember GenG vs RRQ 😂
@ethanwood1737 They ended up having to play retake anyway with what they did, just worse because the one player on site kept dying for free, because no agent other than Cypher in their comp can watch 2 paths at once. You could even still have the same trips and just put the cam on A or something like that, but with that Viper setup, you can never safely leave a solo player alone on A without any Cypher util.
yeah, you can't let GenG get into their rhythm for a setup, deny them their execs and post plants, once they entrench it's extremely hard to fight them. They have a deep playbook, your best shot against them in my opinion is guerilla warfare. Force them out of their comfort zone. Take unconventional fights using the buddy system at all times, no solo duels, you can't get caught out like TenZ did on Haven A site solo, you strictly play alone for info and then you play off the info. They have a few young players that can get rattled if it doesn't go their way early. Before recently, PRX was a strong rival of theirs I believe for that reason. GenG even adopted some of their macro play. They are very, very, VERY strong individually as well and can also get scrappy. Probably the scariest team (without even looking at last masters event)
10:15 also I can't figure out why John is looking at B main from C link when he has a trip for it. He should be scaled closer to A link by then, he has 3 numbers on A already and need to be closer to reinforce faster. Just my opinion, im not the pro.
this reminds me of sentinels vs fnatic lock/in where first map was haven and one single turret in garage fucked their attack. now one viper wall fucked their defense. damn. whats with sen and bad haven games man!
first 7 rounds in the game and I was like
"yeah we can win this series"
rest is history
Gen G are such a good team it’s unreal. All players work so well together
im calling it now, this is going to be a GEN.G vs TH or FNATIC vs GEN.G or GEN.G vs Leviatan. there are no other contender (for me) that can be topped by these 4 teams in internationals.
Geng's kryptonite is prx lmao. I have high hopes for g2, but i do hate that team. I also expect prx to come in 3rd or 4th again
I'm still skeptical about Leviathan. They are one of the good teams that can be terrible at some point.
Fnatic went 1-2 against GenG last time on a really close match. If anyone it's gonna be them who potentially might face GenG on the grand finals.
Bro tried to sneak in TH and think we won't notice LMAO
@@harish123 Now what
I swear someone left Xray on, on Munchkins PC. The lurk in round 16 could not be timed more perfectly, the MOMENT TenZ turned to leave A short Munchkin walked up. His timing is unreal.
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They gave way too many 1v1s and 5 man push through the mains..hardly any map control and ofcrse, first round heaven was a maaaaassive troll
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i still can't understand why sen is picking haven anyways instead of maps like bind , sunset, lotus( maybe not sure about lotus) ... in which they have very good protocols n in which they shine the best
Honestly, cool thumbnail. Like it more than previuos ones
t3xture masterclass, my humble goat
At this point i just have to wonder if its even possible to beat that a lobby wall? Cause i doubt any amount of viper nerfs are ever going to stop it.
Congrats on 100k OMV!
Keeping Haven aside for a second, someone please tell me why they went with that weird buy on Ascent when the score was 6-8. It made absolutely no sense (to me) because GenG was leading and was gonna come with a full buy this round
As a cypher main, i think its really dumb not to use ur trips EVERY ROUND. That is the main power of cypher. You cannot allow some to get behind you undetected as cypher. All sent had to do to counter than lurk/split round is use cyphers util. the coaching staff should be ashamed.
They did use it… on C no?
@@steverho3280but… the lurk threat was essentially always on A… you’d expect them to have adapted after like… the second time they got caught with a trip at A… but no why not have 3 guys watching for the flank 😓
@@DeltaBun Well what if Munchkin does break those trips? What's ur option now? U still have to bring people there. So round starts, Munchkin viper walls up, breaks the short trip and people have to rotate. A cypher makes no difference its way more useful to have it control garage and the c flood out of main
@@whyar3y0uga34 place the trips somewhere more passive then. Or have their cypher play aggro on short since he can escape with his cage? Or he can also just solo anchor A then play for retake. Idk Cypher can pretty much shut down a viper lurk fairly easily on split- and Haven is no difference.
@@steverho3280 they used one on b, but only one can u imagine he uses the other on a (AS HE SHOULD) to cover the part of the map NO ONE is watch???? that's would I would do but the pros......no. its ridiculous and sens deserve to lose. they should be embarrassed.
At least fpx th was a giga banger
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(havent watched the vid yet but was in tmv's stream) Obv Gen G played very good and just shot insanely good. BUT looking at some rounds i really felt like sen shouldnt have been at this event in general. Especially looking at some things Gen G did every single time they could and Sen just not adjusting to it at all
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Honestly I might be wrong on this issue, but I think sen comp isn’t bad, however I have an idea, one way I think you could counter this is play a similar three sentinel comp to m80 lotus where you could pair a deadlock wall in a lobby and cypher cam long to deny space, forcing someone to deliberately shoot it, I will try an think about how it would work, however for attack most retake choke points are small on haven, so util like sage walls and deadlock walls could make retaking fucking cancer, I’m prolly smoking something tho, if you read this give me your opinion tbh
Would moving cipher to A and having him have a lurk off with both cam and trips worked? Would have taken at least two rounds to figure out and open up the map.
as a normal person who is a SEN fan, its really sad to see how much they've fallen off since Madrid, they got way too complacent
Can I ask what software do you use to write on these videos?
If SEN are gonna keep playing like this, I want FPX to beat them purely for the sentiment that that we don't have to watch any more of this boring shit in playoffs.
it was just such a treat watching Gen.G absolutely dominating Sentinels, now that's CINEMA
Got igl diffed and overall Sen just played too passive. GenG had so much info that Sen didn’t know they were getting bc they’re tucked in spawn
Fr idk why but Sen looked nervous and scared. They went into the game like they already lost
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Sentinels is overrated in the pro scene in NA. That being said, I wish the Americas had SA and NA. The fact the two continents share a pool and China has their own pool is insane to me.
China with their own pool makes sense, they have a higher population then the Americas. Also the acronym for South America isn’t the best
how they got demolished by gen.g's viper: terrible anti
this viper comp and playstyle has been around for a very long time its nothing new. SEN not having a proper anti for it is criminal.
I know Tenz is kinda new to this Smoke role, but he is just outclassed as Omen
We need something for the second best game of the year TH vs FPX
Can someone explain why Cypher can't play solo A with his traps? Then they could play the retake setup without compromising other sites.
Sen destroyed themselves. They played like a freshly formed team. They have no idea how to play as a team
It’s been so sad watching them recently since the G2 series they have been playing scared and super unconfident in their ability.
SEN needs to stop playing deadlock. It isn't working.
I look forward to the future where the level of valorant becomes so high that teams no longer throw a 3v1
Wow that crazy man
Sheriff pistol strat strikes again *cough *cough
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Zekken on OP and jett has like 0 impact on the team and they have bad comps so maybe this is why they're really bad? I don't think it's because of the players but mainly because of roles.
Group B is the group of death guys!!! well, it was supposed to be (only because SEN was incredibly overrated and the big fan base), but the outcome of group b is so obvious.
You cant possibly believe SEN will win even a map with all the shit that the players on that team have had going on, and the fact they have just looked weak anyways, They need a mental reset and to be grouped instantly.
sad fpx lost against th really close game tho
karon is a top 5 player in general. levels above
These games start 1am for me😢
Simple as GenG evolving while SEN did not. the slow defaulting doesn't work against them. timing from all of them was off
Happiest day of sen haters
For once im not seeing any excuses from fans
@@kav2357 as a sen fan i can confirm this they played really bad
@@kav2357check out the vct standing post, Sentinel fans are coping hard and pulling out alot of excuses out of their ass lmao
Does anyone have orb + molly lineup geng used in the last round?
Gen g vs fnatic at haven would be cinema
ANYWAY.....HAHAHAHAHA
They're too good. There's a good chance they'll win champs. TH hasn't been doing well without patitek. I like to think Lev can stand up to Geng but aspas can only do so much
i wanna see haven geng fnatic :0
First round of the series and they’re already trolling..
TMV never beating the Viper SIMP allegations
So what I'm seeing is yet another incoming nerf for Viper? alright...
At this point they'll gut her duration in half and she'll still see pro play
Thinking Ads Valorant
Fnatic made the blueprint to play against this comp last season, just play sentinel on A. The fact that sen didn't one homework that even after knowing the comp or two adjust into it shows that this is not the team that won Madrid. Or Madrid was just a washed tournament
Group B literally is group of death but only for sen lmao i cant see they even win against fpx
SEN can tone down that arrogance now. the amount of excuses sen players give is insane. now they can enjoy their vacation early. FPX are gonna roll them. even if they get past them, Heretics will demolish them. here's to 3 more years of mediocrity. thank god this aint like a proper league system with relegation and shid.
SEN IS JUST OVERATED
ikr they're so overrated they destroyed geng the second time and drx like sen are so bad 🙄
I think this is more like Sentinels underperforming rather than Gen G playing well like ok they are good but Sentinels looked lost. They won Masters Madrid because of the shitty kickoff format that knocks away excellent teams like Fnatic and Navi. The teams that qualifies to Masters Madrid are new teams like PRX has just changed roster, Gen G too, then KC and Heretics who the hell are them, and then there are the chinese team who cant do anything at this point, and then for americas Loud is also in a shaky performance without aspas.
PUMPKIA MY GOAT
When sentinels went b 3 times in a row and lost the last 2 i said...yh gen g won
very satisfying to see the cringe sen fans brought back to earth
@@solarxenoz its very satisfying to see this comment now
all that talk of getting well rested and cooking up stuff for split 2 lmao. looking like tier 2 now. i hope zellsis leaves for a better team.
fpx pls win. send sen home pls
So Viper will be nerfed again, huh
geng win. my pickems will be 100%
Hello!!!!
deadlock is a troll pick in ranked this masters winning team expects for to be good in pro play.... 8-4 on a fkn defend sided map with 2 sentinals how bad can u be....
IMO if john wants to make their comps more interesting, I would highly recommend them using skye instead of deadlock. Skye is just way more viable like the flashes and heal but deadlock utils are not gonna work on top tier teams.
@@Lapulga20-kick what are you smoking brah? Did you watch lev dismantling g2 in finals with deadlock(13:4), and day before, kru? Its just sen that suck with that comp and dont know to play it. Lev has proven that that comps works, really well, if you know what youre doing. Even fnatic played that comp and had success.
@@draganmicic2295 no bro, deadlock utils are not that impactful on ascent. You're crazy if you think deadlock is good. If Lev can do that, doesn't mean other teams can do the same.
@@Lapulga20-kick he says Even fnatic played the comp and tons of t2 valorant teams plays that comp, it's a really good counter to kay/o and Jett, but sentinels just doesn't know how to play it
@@sebastiansalvatore8365 pretty much what I've just said
Take this video down. This is bad looks for my team LOL
I think saying they got destroyed is a bit harsh. In map 1 they got unlucky several times and lost several clutches that they probably win 9/10 times. Sure they didn’t adapt to the lurk plays but they otherwise played pretty well against the best team in the tournament
They were good in haven attack but their defence on Haven and their ascent in general sucked
Bro they played horribly, they are going to lose against teams like geng g2 and lev if they don't start adapting and if they don't play their normal comps instead of comps with breach or deadlock that they don't know how to play with, like they Lost defender site in ascent with two sentinels, and they Lost 13-7, and they stated with defense, they are really bad rn
luck and timing works for the one who has made sure to be in a situation to actually take advantage of it saying you got unlucky is loser mentality they got 2 0 ed and rolled
@@finthechat4736i think thats better for them if they play Reyna instead of deadlock 😂😂😂
But if the roles were reversed… fans like you would roll on GEN… simply put, SEN dropped the ball.