Fern exposes Frieren's weakness which makes her embarrassed
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- Fern attacks Frieren to reveal her weakness. Fern and Frieren fights vs Frieren clone. Fern kills Frieren clone with Zoltaak.
Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End episode 25
Sousou no Frieren; Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End episode 25
Fern best moments. Frieren best moments. Fern and stark moments
Frieren has postponed working on this for 500 years, but she surely will start working on it tomorow.
Or after 100 years...
They are procrastinating saving their species too 🗿
That was 500 years ago now...
How to you even correct a split second mistake?
@@brago.gameplayswell It's not something others struggle with so it's not like she can't do it. She just didn't get around to it yet. GIVE IT TIME.
That's not her real weakness, her real weakness is mimic.
Ngl, I first thought they were going to use a mimic too lol. The thing is, Frieren's weakness are mimic beacuse of her love for dungeons and the 1% chance of finding a treasure. Since the clone is a spiegel, a kind of monster, it doesnt have a heart it couldnt fall for it.
Thats our right answer
I was thinking fern gonna throw a mimic the the room and wait the clone get trapped lol
Her VERY REAL weakness is R34
agreed. Fern is dumb for not stating the obvious weakness
Notice how the barrier is a bit to the side,Fern purposely missed but Frieren still reflexively blocked
Yeah its at least covering her side but way more focused on the area behind her.
I still don't get it. Her magic detection is wha?
@@astronymyx4860 she detects mana of other beings and what they are casting the entire time,when Frieren herself is casting a spell she stops detecting it. Think of it like she has a radar up at all times,when she uses a spell that radar gets deactivated for a second and she is vulnerable to surprise attacks
@@onesmileybaldy8303unless she uses the (...)
@@onesmileybaldy8303I’ve been wondering how they figured out that she stopped detecting mana? Fern only fired one shot and no follow up attacks. Also how did Frieren survive so many mob battles if she had this habit? Thanks for the explanation btw.
Yo the "fatal weakness" needs the fastest spellcaster to exploit, the one who came from wild west
It :also_ needs an equally powerful opponent to keep her entirely occupied in order for that fastest spellcaster to have any chance to get the stealth snipe off ...
@@ThomasSMuhn And it must be Zoltraak because she doesn't use to it yet.
The one with the big iron on their hip?
@@nittayoshifumi8252 classic .357 Six Shooter
@@nittayoshifumi8252 Now I am thinking about staffs having stats similar to guns, like cooldown between spells, spell amplification power, spell capacity per charge, etc.
You know, beginning shooters will sometimes reflexively shut their eyes when they fire a gun. It usually takes some training and experience to overcome that problem. Frieren appears to have the magical equivalent of this weakness, but she never overcame it.
And since Frieren seems well aware of her deficiency, I can only assume that Flamme knew about it too. I can just imagine their training sessions and Flamme hammering it home: "STOP DROPPING YOUR MANA DETECTION!!!" Maybe that's why Frieren describes her as an "unpleasant person" in previous episodes.
That's a really good comparison. Mana Detection is likely involved with "sensing" which spell an opponent is preparing. With her mana detection down, it's literally like Frieren "blinks" for a split second after firing a spell.
great comparison
I have to say, it works but i was a little disappointed that was the answer. Feels like it could have affected her in past battles.
@@expressrobkill They are fighting demons, those shits don't think about strategies lol
@@expressrobkill Frieren literally has stated that she has been defeated multiple times before with people having lower mana than her.
I wanted the mimic to be her weakness. Then everyone else would have been horrified in disbelief to watch this powerful final boss get cheesed by a mere mimic. It would have been foolproof.
Apologies for the "achchtually ☝🤓" moment, but "fool proof" is the proper English term. Comes from "it can stand against stupid".
Hope you're having a great weekend ✨♡
She said she was able to blowup mimic from inside.
She was doing it since being part of hero party.
@@Dysputant💯
@@persnicketyVC Thanks, I should know that, but was typing too fast to think straight.
Treasure is her weakness. As if Grimoires. Mimics have learned to exploit this
That cold stare from Frieren though when she blocked....
Frieren be like: SHIT . This kid might know how to kill me. 👀
Prowler theme stare
Frieren
Fern, *watch out for friendly fire* 😐
@@roziewon2525 More like her mother.
That “So you’ve finally turned against me” look
Frieren was about to make her self game end
“Why didn’t you tell us about this?” Uh, why would anyone broadcast their own fatal vulnerability to the world?
When there is an evil clone of a strong person running around, you kinda need it to make sure you win.
Your friends and travel companions should at least know about it
Because they literally need to know to win this match-up lmfao
Also if Frieren goes rogue.... they will need to deal with her as a contingency..... similar to DC Superman Scenario. 😂
@@PerfectAzrael considering the one who notice this is fern too, and they ends up fighting the clone with just the two of them. There is really no point in her sharing her weakness voluntarily. There's literally no need for the others to know, just these two saying "Me and my disciple can take it on, I know my weakness", why reveal your card, especially fatal flaw like that?
I guess it make sense that Frieren battle style specialized for killing demons, which involved mana concealing her own mana and caught demons off guard, thats why demons call her a coward mage. Because demons are a prideful mages they tent to boast their magic and condemn stealth attack. So Frieren didn't really need to fixes her weakness since she doesn't need to for the majority of her lifes.
So she s ninja mage.
@@liszarezo3658
A ninja who closes her eyes when sneaking around.
@@MaxMikescrool1More like a ninja that closes their eyes as they sink their weapon into their target.
I mean we also saw in this battle that this weakness isn't enough to finish her alone. It took both of them. One playing the perfect diversion, the other equipped for the perfect surprise attack.
@@RainAngel111it’s like a gunman that closes his eyes after taking a shot, it’s a ‘weakness’ as long as someone else is fast enough to take advantage of it.
Fern's "Quick Draw" is always scares me to the bone ...
Yeah....
wait, was her casting her spell not cut?
I need to watch this anime
@@tacticallemon7518No, she's just using basic offensive spells that's why a chant is unnecessary.
The embarrassed look at the end. It makes Frieren cute.
When you realize Frieren and Anya is voiced by the same person :O
Oh yeah how she says embarrassing just like anya
wait what😵
Really? Such a different way she acts.
@@TisZweryea her job is “acting”, it’s called that because she has to “act” like other people and one quality of good ones is to be able to “act” like many different kinds of people
Shock!
Even if you manage to figure her weakness out, you’d have to overpower her first.
SPOILER:
The other old guy who noticed her holy emblem before the first class exam could overpower her. In the next episodes after the exam is over, he tried to challenge Frieren in a quick battle and destroyed her multiple layer of defense magic with a basic zoltraak. But we don't see the continuation of the fight after that
@@WowoWinn-lc9qb you mean the old white-hair guy right? still i believe that frieren still hold back, if she tried to be offensive, he's be dead
@@lcthanh2325I mean, he did break through Frieren's shields, that's a very telling sign of how strong he is, plus, like Frieren herself said, she's been beat by mages who had lesser mana than her and the majority of them were human
@@acousticks526 we also know that she has a lot more tricks up her sleeves. If they had continued fighting it would have probably resulted in a "no longer holding back" moment
@@anna-flora999 Frieren isn't the kind of person to hold back for no reason, but from what we saw it looked like he exploited her exact weakness by simply being fast and dangerous with basic magic.
Thats probably only a weakness if her opponent is near her level or if she has to fight multiple strong opponents at once. Even if Denken noticed it in his battle with her he could not use it to his advantage.
To exploit her weakness there is need to be 2 mages. One acting as decoy and attack her while the other can conceal his or her kana and use quick spells
That's why she needs a party. Lol
@user-px7df5vl8r not necessarily. A tricky opponent can exploit it as well but it's easier with multiple people.
Her kill count says otherwise. Only someone very close to her would be able to pick that up.
Or maybe a very experienced mage, considering that Denken was the only one there who realized it when Fern attacked (at least it looked like he was the only one to me)
@@diogomelo7897 he didn’t pick up on it fern told and showed him
@@martinhill9561 Fern said that she knew a weakness about Frieren and showed, but while Denken noticed in the moment Fern did it, Lawine and Kanne didn't understand until Denken explained to them
@@diogomelo7897Denken and Methode, since they were the only 2nd class mages in that group that have such experience and know-how(since Wirbel and co. were still in a battle, while Four Eyes and Ubel are having a "date").
I wonder if Aura counts in her kill count? Lol technically she offed herself
I legit thought her weakness was gonna be mornings 😭 Like I for sure believed they’d just hang around until the double goes to sleep and can’t wake up 😂
there is a timer for this (bottled little guys thatll break at some point if they dont reach the deepest part of the dungeon and end the 2nd stage) and if they just kept on waiting, theyll die to the other clones that slowly get closer to them, waiting isnt an option😭
What I thought they were going to do was go drag a live mimic into that room, and they both get caught in it
2nd cutest Frieren moment after the cold hand scene
I think its because of my language dub, but the curls scene are sooo cute.
She stops sensing mana while casting, but exploiting this weakness is still near impossible for anyone but the frieren and fern combo.
To exploit it, you need
1. A mage with very hard to detect presence, and one of, if not the fastest cast speed in the world.
2. A mage who can 1 v 1 frieren and keep her busy enough to lose track of the above mentioned mage.
3. Zoltraak, and knowledge that frieren cannot instinctively defend against zoltraak in this point of the story.
The way Denken spoke, he seems to think he could have exploited it if he had been aware of it.
Denken is good, but alone he is not doing anything. Again it comes down to team work and being able to even keep up with her. If she finds out at all its over.@@marcobering3945
@@marcobering3945 I don't think he thought that but, he certainly thinks that it was an immense oversight.
I mean you are correct if you want everyone to survive haha. Technically all you'd need is #1, a mage who is very hard to detect. The other mage can literally be anyone..They'll just be a sacrifice.
p.s I do believe Fern could probably kill her alone. 100% when Fern is older. All you'd have to do to actually defeat Frieren in a 1v1 is cast a spell while she is countering another spell you've casted. Something Fern is actually good at, the consecutive attacks. Frieren also doesn't seem concerned with blocking her vision with big spells. So Fern would need to cast a big spell that Frieren would need to counter, blocking her vision, then a ultra-fast Zoltraak. Main point.. Fern is the main piece to this puzzle.
@@marcobering3945 considering the fight frieren had with her own clone, he would have been cooked in seconds
There are so few skilled mages in this chat. That split second loss of detection means that as soon as she casts her spell you lauch your counterattack, and she won't sense it quickly enough to block it. But to exploit it properly means you need 2 attackers, or someone capable of performing a near-doublecast in which a 2nd effect is produced during that brief gap while detection is off defending against the 1st.
or just cast Wish from DnD and order her to cease to exist in this world
@@evergreen9752 Theoretically, sure, but Wish is HEAVILY DM dependant. It could throw her into the future, or throw YOU into the past before she was born.
@@shadowldrago It depends on power of your character. If you have a 20 lvl + homebrew spells and godly powers + mighty artifacts then you are basically a low tier deity. Obviously your magic/powers would be more powerful and precise. A wish spell conjured by such character would best frieren with ease. My character would obliterate both Frieren and Serie at once for instance, though I use different type of magic. The point is godlike beings in DnD are just more powerful overall and their magic too. Restraints like those you mentioned are only for mere mortals
The fact , Fern knew that Feiren would block it ...shows how great of a confidence Fern has in Feiren
~date hasukashishi~
Correctly, it's like this.
「datte hazukashī shi 」
@@_an-pj3rn Correctly, it's like this.
だって はずかしいし
@@lord_of_cheddar9695 That’s right
だって、恥ずかしいし。
If you wanna be a b*tch about it
@@lord_of_cheddar9695 Correctly, it's like this. だって、恥ずかしいし
BRO risked their lives all for an embarrassment 💀
I like to imagine that In an alternate universe Fern decapitated Frieren right then and there on accident
and everyone just looked at Fern in shock and disbelief
Fern just says "I thought she would've blocked it in time..."
I would have thought a mimic would have worked as well.
Nah, she was on demon time. The Slayer doesn't mess around, otherwise demons would just be able to offer her spells.
That "weakness" is worse for anybody else with normal firing neurons 😅
Seriously, the number of people who could effectively exploit that can be counted on one hand. And they’d never be able to do it solo.
Someone pointed out before that Freiren's voice and nature are almost like Hololive's Ina..from that time I can't unsee the resemblance
that explains the comfy
elf grandma is TAKO?
She's the same VA for Anya 🔥
WAHt, really? Now that you mention it, she does have similar traits to the Punny Priestess.
"I will fix that tomorrow"
But it will become a big problem when you have too many tomorrow in the bank 😂
More like "I will fix that soon"
"What is today but yesterday's tomorrow?"
「恥ずかしし」
すごくかわいい！
'Split second' guys😂
I was so hoping it'd be the mimic then when the fight begins the replica would be forced to defend against the frieren + fern onslaught
That is why Fern is going to be the greatest mage. She saw the weakness in the best 2 mages alive. She saw Serie's unstable mana seconds after meeting her.
I don't think what Fern noticed was a weakness in Serie tho.
@@ooorigami4166 Ya, this was better depicted in the manga but Fern was scared of Serie because Serie was also suppressing her mana, just like Frieren. Then it clicked for me that Flamme learned that technique from her master and she passed it down to Frieren.
Serie is a beast, she can emit so much mana even with suppression, that's why she has to suppress it so that people around her wouldn't be terrified of her.
Frieren fail with mimic chest, but still get lucky with Methode chest
Frieren in the end is so cute!
Thats her second weakness and other is the mimic
That hasukashishi leaked😊😊
I thought her weakness was mimic.
They just needed to throw a mimic in that room...
I swear I thought Fern was just gonna say let the clone sleep, it’ll never wake up
I was really expecting them to throw out grimoires as bait
in that moment i thought that fern would get angry at frieren as her weakness
just make everything cold or wait until she sleep
This is close to a flinching or more like focusing on casting that you are defenceless against getting backstabbed
"datte hasukashi shi" 👉👈
If they just pushed a mimic into the room they would’ve won.
Your gonna need Lucky luke to exploit that weakness lmao
I sincerely thought Fern was gonna find a way to conjure a chest mimic in front of Frieren when I first saw this part of the ep. No lie.
もじもじフリーレンかわよ
They could've just thrown a mimic in there and that would've gotten the fight done in two seconds.
They could have just thrown a mimic into the room and solved this in an instant
Datte hazukashi shi 😂😂 lmao she's so cute
they wouldve finished alot faster if they just tossed a mimic into the room
Remember, fern is one of the fastest zoltraak caster. I think Frieren can block more precisely on other mage attacks.
Her weakness is being chewed on by a mimic.
This isn't really a weakness because to beat her you need 2 mages. 1 that have the same level as her and 1 that can supress his mana and have a powerful attack.
No need for very powerful attacks quick spells is what they need
I really thought Fern going to put mimic instead of blasting her
0:17 Frieren knows she's busted.
I want to hear the voiceover of this once they do it in en lmao
The weakness: Perform the ancient dance under a full blue moon while specifically wearing green overalls and your nose pointing to the west.
Lmfao, the amount of conditions you'd have to fulfill to kill Frieren is insane.
If the clones copy mentality, than just summon a bunch of chests and mimics. That Elf will spend all her time opening them, and being eaten by the mimics.
Frieren truly is an idol to all us procrastinators..
I deadass expected her weakness was she can barely wake up on her own in the morning
Amnesiac Chise Ainsworth, aged like fine wine.
Every mage has weakness
Frieren is... gun-shy of her own attacks?
I'm assuming this is a consequence of her constantly suppressing her mana. It's a "weakness" that basically no one can actually exploit and she can easily stop be just not suppressing her mana.
Frieren flaw can only be exploited by someone as formidable as herself.
I thought it would be mimics and mornings
Noooo it's not mimic-kun 🤣🤣
I don't understand. can somebody explain what mana detection breaks off got anything to do with her weakness and how to kill her?
freriens curiosity is a stronger weakness, show her a new spell or promise a book and she will get distracted easy
I’m gonna be honestly I though they were just gonna summon a mimic in the middle of the room
I thought the weakness was that she had trouble waking up and they would cast a sleep spell
It's funny to me how they call it a "fatal weakness" when it can only be exploited in a very specific situation.
Frieren has to be fighting an equal so as to keep her casting and unable to counter whoever's going to cast Zoltrak (I may have spelled it wrong), besides that, the spell used *has* to be Zoltrak, because she isn't used to instinctively blocking it yet.
Guys, please help me figure out why the old man was so surprised? I watched the video 10 times and still couldn't figure out how Fern's attack was related to Freeren's mana detection?
Freeran stops detecting mana for a split second, but is this related to Fern's attack? After all, Freeran understood and reflected the magic, what is unusual about this scene? I can't understand it.🤷🤔
It wasn't because of Fern's attack, it's just Frieren's weakness in general. Whenever she casts a spell, she always drops her "radar" for a split second. In this scene, she casted a protective spell, which made her drop her mana detection too.
They were surprised because that weakness was a common error for mage apprentices and no decent mage made that mistake (that was also why Frieren was too embarrassed to tell anybody), while she was the last Great Mage.
Bro how do u spell Frieren's name wrong 3 times
Cause only fern can do that fern is faster than frieren without chanting zoltraak spell.
@@Nameless_TF😂😂😂Sorry, it is a translator
@@DixxyVAnd how did they know that she wasn't tracking mana at the moment of Fern's attack?
How do you realise their mana detection is off?
Can you feel what they feel? 🤔
They could have used a mimic and a shovel
Thought it was cake
How did he know that freiren cant detect mana while castinf spell based on that?someone explain pls
Superman got Krytonipe as weakness, and Frieren have mimic as weakness...
This is actually a make-up, too. She's Frieren.
디스 이즈 액추얼리 어 메익 업, 티오우오우 쉬즈 프릴렌.
I am kinda slow. How did fern and denken know frieren cannot use mana detection for a split second?
How did Denken discover that?
I mean he's still a very experienced mage.
There are details you’ll never notice unless you take a closer look
Only Denken, Fern, and Methode (her gasping voices) who could discover that. Prob bcs both Denken and Methode are experienced mages and Fern just knew her for a long time
Because Denken is good, it’s just that Frieren is really *really* good.
Once she lose a lots of normal mage too
datte hazka Shishi
Grand ma is cute
Lmao she had that weakness for ages now i think i remember in the manga idr, which chapter it was maybe sometime after ch. 52 i think frieren master flamme had a hard time beating that weakness outta her during training, i think it was a flashback so dont quote me i might be very wrong lol😅
Didn’t frieren reveal that herself in the manga?
So the plan is not using a mimic ?... kinda disappointing
Yo todo in experto en ingles:
Esta embarazada dice
Sounded like Anya from Spy Family at the end there
They both have the same voice actor
wait what does that mean?
Can anyone give me a link to watch anime?
You call that 'Weakness'?
She literally still defend herself.
Just bring a Mimic.
I was gonna say mimics.
Datte hazukashishi 👉👈
That's kinda dumb ngl. They ended beat the clone only with Frieren and Fern, didn't need to announce her weakness to everyone lmao.
Don't worry the clone still alive
Literally does not matter because no one can exploit it. Its not even a weakness
because they were all on board on teaming up to defeat Clone Frieren pretty fast at first and because they were finding weaknesses to defeat the boss, which also shows Frieren being Cooperative with everyone in a party.
I don't understand why Frieren is embarrassed by this and not embarrassed by how she falls for mimics all the time
Getting stuck in a mimic is an expected and likely outcome of taking the 1% chance of great knowledge. The mimic isn't a genuine threat to her- even when she's on her own, much less when with allies. That makes it simply part of a strategy that, over a long period of time, should make her stronger.
Dropping the mana detection is just a straight up weakness, a flaw in how she fights no matter how you look at it.
Wait, that's not a mimic!
Frieren's so cute
👉👈
idk why they are struggling. just put random mimic in the room
Am i the only one that didn't see what happened? Can someone please explain it? (What i see is fern shooting and frieren blocking it, then that guy explains and i understood that part)
That’s the point of it: you cant see it.
Even an experienced mage, warrior like Denken can barely see it after Fern pointed it out.
Basically the moment Frieren cast a spell (in this case, a shield), she still have a very short vulnerable react time.
And because it always goes by too fast (or rather not any enemy who faced her before is fast enough), it seems like she’s invincible. No weaknesses
And you know that Fern is the fastest Zoltrak caster (the basic piercing attack). And she can SEE that weakness, but hardly bypassing it, as Frieren is still able to block it even by surprise.