This is the fist time in my 17 years of Tekken to switch off of Raven as a sub main character. Everything about Clive reminds me so much of how Raven sparked my interest back when I was a kid playing Tekken 5
@@Sixstonesage use 1,1 to pressure. if hit-confirmed then go for 2 afterwards. then use df 1,1 if they are ducking a lot or using moves where they duck to keep out. use electrics to have somewhat of a neutral. sidestep electric or sidestep ff2 can be good launchers. use blue spark moves if have a lot of grey hp. hellsweep to low, otherwise db 2 for low in lower ranks.
Geese was actually the most epic guest character in T7. if you were present in EVO the crowd reaction was deafening when Harada dropped his trailer that nobody expected...
@@setoace I haven't played a tekken in years, I'm speaking from someone that havent touched a Tekken game since 6 when I played with my fam. as someone who thoroughly enjoyed ff16 I'm just excited for this character to drop. imma have to buy the game now
I was honestly disappointed when I saw the game awards trailer and saw it's not tifa lol I was like "who is this mf??!" And then I watched his trailer and thought he's cool but what sold him to me was the dev talks. I loved hearing how passionate they were putting clive in the game and all the work they've put in was just something to admire to
Thank you so much for putting into context who Clive is for the people who don't know who he is and or have never played FF16. I hope people will gradually warm up to him and even convince some people to go play FF16 after seeing how cool he looks as many of his moves were lifted straight from his game.. Because honestly, FF16 is a good game and people should give it a chance.
Watched this on stream, man he looks so cool. Zantetsuken is gonna be so interesting to see in matches, doing 40% raw on lv5 is wew. Bamahmut stance and firing ranged shots on people is gonna be mad annoying lol The FF Fanfare on winning with Rage Art and referencing Clive's inner fight with Ifrit is peak.
@@AaronJohnson-l5e (If this was sarcasm don't pay much attention to this, but-) The Clive player only have to actually hit certain strings enough times to build up a gauge to 5 then actually land the move. Feels like complaining about Heihachi's Warrior Instinct Mode
I've been there on the streams, it's been very fun and I just caught this upload. Thanks for the content Phi, and I hope that people stop sending you nonsense asap. Have a great day!
Watching the Dev Talks actually enticed me so much that I feel like I wanna stop playing Tekken and play FFXVI instead. That game sounds like its fire (no pun intended) And it reminded me how much I loved playing all sorts of different games from different genres before Tekken 8 ensnared me for almost the entirity of 2024
What both T8 Dev and FF16 Dev have done are so admirable. And I’m really happy with Clive as a DLC character. When Tifa does come to Tekken, I’m sure she will be in good hands.
I was hesitant about Clive at first but the more I watch the dev talks the more I'm excited for him. You can really feel how much love they put into the character and honestly, it translates into a pretty cool tekken character
8:06 Yes my PC is just good enough to run Tekken at 60 fps on Low with render set between 60-70 and I'm worried all Clive's and the New Stages Sceen Noise will make me drop below 60 fps 😢
17:50. This whole section is soooo true dude the combo is easy but it does less damage than a good combo so who cares let people play the game and it looks cool as hell lol
Thank god you said that about the fucking 222 string i swear it makes no sense to complain about a low damage not optimal combo. Other characters like reina Lidia have it and theyre fine. How am i new to this game since the start of this year and i can understand this game more then some of yall whos been playing for years? Insane.
I'm so so so excited to play clive oh my god he looks so good. It's even revived my competitive drive, I want to get good enough at clive to go to locals and give people a run for their money.
I always like when guest characters really reflect their origin game but it can be a tricky proposition. 2B is really authentic to her game in Granblue Rising but that resulted in a somewhat unbalanced character who didn't really play by the rules. In a pejorative way. I'm cautiously optimistic looking at all this but I also think Clive was just maybe not the right pick here regardless of all this care. Looks cool and flashy and faithful but that doesn't quite cover the fact that they're kinda playing the wrong card.
This goes to show theyve been working on Clive way longer than a lot of the other DLC cast. This is kinda wild how much work they put in. Almost inefficient lol but i gained more respect for this collab because of the breakdown.
Dang the more I read comments about Clive peeps really didn’t play his game. I had a great time playing it. Was super fun. Fell off in the middle abit but picked back up. Has some of the most crazy boss cool fights. Timed Exclusivity really hurts reach I feel.
As I'm watching the video, I noticed that Rising Flame made Clive's HP Bar Grow Green, makes me have a suspicion it may heal grey health kinda like how Heihachi has moves that heal Gray health
Actually, it looks like several of his Phoenix Moves made his HP bar grow green, very interested in seeing if that will still be there when he releases on the 16th
tbf thats like saying you should be able to lab against characters in older games before you unlocked them. while i do wanna lab all the characters too.. im not too upset about needing to buy them to have access
"A different clive combo, but not an auto combo, but way more damage off the same launcher......... attack throw.... looks like a pretty easy combo so that's a bit more concerning.... etc etc" Laughs in Alisa, Jin, etc doing 70+ damage, especially Alisa doing like literally what 88 damage in 5 button inputs LITERALLY 5 with 0 execution requirement lol. I think it will be fine😅
26:18 in Tekken 8, There's 2 types of breakables, 1. Balcony, Wall, Floor breaks delete some grey health while no damage to normal health. 2. While The Wall and Floor Blasts do some damage to normal health while keeping the grey health. @phidx
Im so disappointed by this anime style fighter... my sadness is not leaving I knew who Clive was, i like FF but i really dislike ANIME fighting style characters This thing are more for Infinity nikki, not for what a try to see as a serious game
Yeah tekken strayed from what it was which was fist fighting, close combat. Now it’s just magic and bullets and swords. Yoshi was an exception but even he fought normally-ish.
Clive has officially turned me off of ranked. Tekken will now be a casual game for me, he has too much visual clutter and his inputs are pretty braindead. Im excited for the new stage, but not how this character will bring about casuals that will abuse cheese. Oh well, once season 2 "major changes" drop, ill return to ranked
Is there anything not cool to or is it everything u c on the screen u say “thats cool”?! Coz the way i c it is they brought a character that has swords, gun, lightning, wolf, phoenixe, dragon and wings makes him fly to tekken ! What the fuck is that? Thats wt u saying is cool game design! Wt am i seeing ?? Where is tekken ? I can’t believe i payed 70$ for this shit.
@@PhiDXyoshimitsu was always grounded despite his sword, he fought like tekken. Nina just got guns in t8, devil jin also fought like tekken(lasers and stuff were always slow gimmicks). Kazumi sucked cause that is when shit really hit the fan. I loved but also hated tekken 7 for what they introduced. This here is not tekken, it’s final fantasy shit that don’t belong in a fist fighting game. Imagine virtua fighter having someone like clive? I repeat:before tekken 6/7 the game was always grounded and noone ever complained about this kind of stuff. If you love this type of anime crap and are happy you can do it in a tekken game then just say it.
@ at least they r original tekken characters and has been ok since tekken 3 and they fucked them up in tekken 8 but my point here is clear, clive shouldn’t be in this game, converting this game to anime and souls games style isn’t wt made tekken the greatest fighting game of all time and u as one of the sounds of this game shouldn’t be so “OK and COOL” with everything the devs put out, its better if u point the negative things and the wrong things about the game and false advertising is gonna lead to only to the death of this franchise, look at wt happened to MK1.
@@paradiseb5950yes, the game where an old man survives a cliff toss and explosions and can catch a bullet with his teeth is definitely grounded in reality
People are going to misinterpret your point on purpose but yeah. Tekken has always been anime but not the this degree. It’s just getting further out by the entry for the sake of sales
@@xav5787 bro in T7 alone Akuma and Heihachi was frighting through buildings. They literally have lighting form around their hands. Every anime troupe of an android catching feelings for a human. People turning into devils. A bear that knows martial arts. Multiple ppl survive being thrown in lava. Lars. Eliza. Generic rich girl who likes to fight but hides it from her dad. Angel mom Devil dad. Overpowered old people. The opening in T8 was a full anime opening. We fight in space for one of the stages. Heihachi destroyed a big ass meteor despite not having powers. Just to name a few repeating anime troupes.
@@awildtenshi367 You literally just described how the game has gotten more anime by the entry. And the “anime” we refer to is in terms of fighting more so than tropes and story wise
I am with you. I don’t need to play a game with so many Fx to make me blind and rage about balance that don’t exist anymore. I got the message: my money is better in another place where devs are considerate to their clients and not to their buddy for making their bad collabs to make money on us. We ask for something for years and Harada just like to do anything but what clients are asking. This is bad business. I am not a simp and I don’t pay people to spit on me.
I love FF16 anc clive but... Holy fk i dont wanna fight him online. He looks like noctis and victor had a baby on steroids. Its exhausting just looking at him do all that flashy stuff and its 100% just 1 button. Its too mentally taxing and we dont even know how string he is (he looks REALLY strong. I wouldnt be shocked if the Odin attack as a combo finisher will result in 130 DMG combos. Given the damage heihachi does andnthe bs he has with ultinate heihachi, clive will be just as damaging). And lets be real, the more damaging combos might not be 222222, but they arent gonna be hard by any standard. Just look at jin.
Zantetsuken doesn't look any more powerful than Leroys cane giving a huge damage combo or Heihachi getting a full round of Super Saiyan. Like the Zantetsuken is only gonna be once maybe twice a match if you're lucky or actively forgoing proper punishes to build the gauge. It also looks like only deals like 50 damage give or take a bit which I'm pretty sure won't even be more damaging than a simple strong move any character can use and it is way less than a full combo.
I just might delete tekken and try virtua fighter when it comes out. Tekken has strayed too far from what i loved about tekken. Just remembered how down to earth and grounded tekken 3, 4 and 5 were, it was a joy playing those games. Now it’s just a shit show of magic and fireworks on screen while you watch characters fly around and try to guess/block for your life. I hate this. Sad really cause tekken was THE game of my life which i loved the most.
@@r1supI expected for year 1, 3 legacy characters and a new one. Not those guests that will just unbalance everything in the game and make it painful to play against.
About the easy Input for combos Like 2,2,2,2 , you say its easy for new player . Thats why they have Special Style lol so why do you have Special Style if u actually don’t Need it . And Special Style gives u Even Variation in combos and more damage output so your Opinion about it make it more nonsense . I understand u try to See the good in all Things But This just a lil 2 much noob accebility Protection . They already have Special Style . And im Sure Even ff Player that coming to t8 wants a lil Bit more Input Challenge Thema Pressing 1 Button ;) Cuz dnt forget in ff16 to combo through all the eikons it was also execution Heavy to make the best Dmg out of it & t8 is already execution easier than previous tekken so im Sorry to interupt you With your opinion But Yes thats my opinion
What do you mean? They reused noctis animations and put a new coat of paint on it and flashy animation and gave him a few new moves. Even the projectile from bahumut stance, its basically noctis old knife throw move from t7. It reminds me of the simpsons episode where they slapped on a hat on the malibu stacy doll LOL
It’s a shame, I want to be excited for this character since you can see how much love and passion was poured into his creation in the Tekken engine… but it’s just wrong. Just the wrong pick. Hopefully it brings in new players but it’s definitely at the expense of long time players who find this new sword, gun, and screen cluttering effect stuff to be an ugly and unwelcome direction for the franchise going forward.
U are privileged as hell, Tekken 8 has 30+ char at release with 3 preset custom + customize option not to mention story and characters ending in full cgs. Find other fg that gave u that at release
Bro if they wanted a character just for a cash grab then they would have picked Tifa. Who is the more recognize able character. Instead they picked a passion pick that they where excited about.
@ my point is. In years of the past. We didn’t have pay for any characters. Now heihachi and eddy. Two staples of the franchise. Are locked behind a pay wall. Then to use ff for those fans. They just want ppl to spend more money. Its scummy af.
This particular character is not a cash grab though - just a dumb decision from namco. If they wanted to bring in more players theyd pick someone more popular like tifa not this less popular character.
Many names sound lame without additional context. Tekken has a few of these as well: Paul, Steve, Jack with a number, and Eddy. Imagine if Steve Fox were to be a DLC character no one has ever heard of, and someone just says "Lmao you mean the guy you play in Minecraft?"
@@HVTILLVIB Steve is a really generic irl name. No one would say "Steve fox you mean from minecraft lol?" Because Steve from work or from down the street would be the first thing they would think of.
I can’t believe they made a 38 minute breakdown I ain’t got time for that. Thankfully, phi’s got me with the 33 minute breakdown. Much love my man
Precious minutes saved 🙏🏽
LMFAO it did go longer than i thought
Timestamps helped at least 😅
This is the fist time in my 17 years of Tekken to switch off of Raven as a sub main character. Everything about Clive reminds me so much of how Raven sparked my interest back when I was a kid playing Tekken 5
who is raven? is she a character too?
How is Raven so unpopular that people who play the game don't know him 😭😭😭😭😭@@HeavyMachinery512
@@HeavyMachinery512 raven's a ninja that has been playable since tekken 5
I dont regret buying the season pass. Gave me Heihachi, and now my favorite FF protag in it
If you main Heihachi could you teach me the ways?
@@Sixstonesage use 1,1 to pressure. if hit-confirmed then go for 2 afterwards. then use df 1,1 if they are ducking a lot or using moves where they duck to keep out. use electrics to have somewhat of a neutral. sidestep electric or sidestep ff2 can be good launchers. use blue spark moves if have a lot of grey hp. hellsweep to low, otherwise db 2 for low in lower ranks.
@@SixstonesageJust do b4
NGL this might be one of the most EPIC guest characters they've ever introduced to Tekken.
Geese was actually the most epic guest character in T7. if you were present in EVO the crowd reaction was deafening when Harada dropped his trailer that nobody expected...
@@setoace I haven't played a tekken in years, I'm speaking from someone that havent touched a Tekken game since 6 when I played with my fam. as someone who thoroughly enjoyed ff16 I'm just excited for this character to drop. imma have to buy the game now
@@xsmockjrx Then why tf you commenting on it "i havent played it" bozo the clow
Not really no.
We had Began, we had Geese
Make no mistake this noctis 2.0
By epic you mean kids/mashers getting free wins with a character that doesn’t belong in tekken but as long as teenagers get a hard on from it?
I was honestly disappointed when I saw the game awards trailer and saw it's not tifa lol I was like "who is this mf??!" And then I watched his trailer and thought he's cool but what sold him to me was the dev talks. I loved hearing how passionate they were putting clive in the game and all the work they've put in was just something to admire to
Those lying greedy bastards changed your mind? Wow
@@AaronJohnson-l5e 🤓🤓🤓
@AaronJohnson-l5e, you clearly don't know how DLC development works. Clive was in the making since 2022 go and goon somewhere else
@@AaronJohnson-l5e hello free thinker
@@TheKingOfSmoke79 doesn't mean anythingh. he looks like effects mishmash. Something only dumb kids find appealing
"look inward" is the most polite "skill issue" / "git gut" i've heard lol
Thank you so much for putting into context who Clive is for the people who don't know who he is and or have never played FF16. I hope people will gradually warm up to him and even convince some people to go play FF16 after seeing how cool he looks as many of his moves were lifted straight from his game.. Because honestly, FF16 is a good game and people should give it a chance.
I’m so happy they brought the neck bite Torgal does against Benedikta in the boss fight as a grab 😭
I really appreciare their work and consideration. And thank you for pointing that out in some cases. Gratefulness is a virtue.
Watched this on stream, man he looks so cool.
Zantetsuken is gonna be so interesting to see in matches, doing 40% raw on lv5 is wew.
Bamahmut stance and firing ranged shots on people is gonna be mad annoying lol
The FF Fanfare on winning with Rage Art and referencing Clive's inner fight with Ifrit is peak.
I may be crazy, but it also looked like Lvl 5 Zantetsuken destroyed alot of Gray Health too, which if that's true it could be a crazy combo ender
Wow so interesting win button wow
@@AaronJohnson-l5e
(If this was sarcasm don't pay much attention to this, but-)
The Clive player only have to actually hit certain strings enough times to build up a gauge to 5 then actually land the move. Feels like complaining about Heihachi's Warrior Instinct Mode
That Zantetsuken level 5 gotta be minus AF lol
@@ArchieGamezyou know damn well that's a combo ender you better not be throwing that out in neutral 🤣🤣
Always nice to see Soken’s name pop up. Dude is a fucking genius when it comes to music. I’ve literally bought every FF14 Album due to him
DLC started with a capoera dancer, a martial artist, an unkillable grandpa, and now a literal isekai'ed god. They keep upping the anti LOL
The final dlc in tekken 8 will be the player themselves. Major patch update that puts the player in the game through VR.
Dont forget that the martial artist is also a prime minister of poland
I've been there on the streams, it's been very fun and I just caught this upload. Thanks for the content Phi, and I hope that people stop sending you nonsense asap. Have a great day!
Watching the Dev Talks actually enticed me so much that I feel like I wanna stop playing Tekken and play FFXVI instead. That game sounds like its fire (no pun intended)
And it reminded me how much I loved playing all sorts of different games from different genres before Tekken 8 ensnared me for almost the entirity of 2024
What both T8 Dev and FF16 Dev have done are so admirable. And I’m really happy with Clive as a DLC character. When Tifa does come to Tekken, I’m sure she will be in good hands.
I wasn'ttoo excited but as someone who played FF16 the work they put into Clive's moveset is commendable for sure.
Ff 16’s odin vs bahamut cutscene is so good.
I was hesitant about Clive at first but the more I watch the dev talks the more I'm excited for him. You can really feel how much love they put into the character and honestly, it translates into a pretty cool tekken character
8:06 Yes my PC is just good enough to run Tekken at 60 fps on Low with render set between 60-70 and I'm worried all Clive's and the New Stages Sceen Noise will make me drop below 60 fps 😢
I like Clive as a character so for me I like that they added him to the roster
Okay im sold, such effort is very impressive.
17:50. This whole section is soooo true dude the combo is easy but it does less damage than a good combo so who cares let people play the game and it looks cool as hell lol
I'm not all that hyped for Clive but i really like how much effort they put into him, and hopefully he'll be fun to play.
can you imagine that level 5 move with rage activated that's practically half your health lol
Thank god you said that about the fucking 222 string i swear it makes no sense to complain about a low damage not optimal combo. Other characters like reina Lidia have it and theyre fine. How am i new to this game since the start of this year and i can understand this game more then some of yall whos been playing for years? Insane.
When you said "look inward" I literally burst out laughing. A very diplomatic way to say that lol
I love how detailed he is.
But yea i wonder how good his lows are and frame data of most movess
Glad people like the new character. Ain’t looking forward to having a seizure fighting him though 😅
It's Noctis..
But on every imaginable steroid 😮
Very well done demonstration by Mr phidx
Wasn't expecting Clive but I'm not mad at it. He's one on the best FF protaganists IMO. I have a few issues with FFXVI but Clive wasn't one of them.
“Look inward” is some shit Clive would say too lmao. Phi is already in character
That's alot of works for one character, bravo 👏
character is so sick
Really awesome summary of the whole thing. I had watched it already, but I still got more out of it by watching this.
I'm so so so excited to play clive oh my god he looks so good. It's even revived my competitive drive, I want to get good enough at clive to go to locals and give people a run for their money.
The victory fanfare was Godlike
Honestly Clive looks great, definitly will try him out
I always like when guest characters really reflect their origin game but it can be a tricky proposition. 2B is really authentic to her game in Granblue Rising but that resulted in a somewhat unbalanced character who didn't really play by the rules. In a pejorative way.
I'm cautiously optimistic looking at all this but I also think Clive was just maybe not the right pick here regardless of all this care. Looks cool and flashy and faithful but that doesn't quite cover the fact that they're kinda playing the wrong card.
phi better win evo with noctis 3.0
It is funny that Torgal transforms during heat. In ffxvi Torgal only transformed once while saving a certain person.
I'm definitely gonna try Clive. He looks fun after this video. And FFXVI was dope, so I'm happy with this pick
Favorite background yapper to climb soloq with in the background
Your streams always make my day man thanks for pushing these out im only getting my info from you.
This goes to show theyve been working on Clive way longer than a lot of the other DLC cast. This is kinda wild how much work they put in. Almost inefficient lol but i gained more respect for this collab because of the breakdown.
Dang the more I read comments about Clive peeps really didn’t play his game. I had a great time playing it. Was super fun. Fell off in the middle abit but picked back up. Has some of the most crazy boss cool fights. Timed Exclusivity really hurts reach I feel.
As I'm watching the video, I noticed that Rising Flame made Clive's HP Bar Grow Green, makes me have a suspicion it may heal grey health kinda like how Heihachi has moves that heal Gray health
Actually, it looks like several of his Phoenix Moves made his HP bar grow green, very interested in seeing if that will still be there when he releases on the 16th
Since the Phoenix stuff healed him in ff16 as well it stays true to his original design so I like they kept that aspect ^^
@@bodiva8 Yeah, it's super cool how faithful the Tekken devs are with Clive. Has me genuinely excited
tbf thats like saying you should be able to lab against characters in older games before you unlocked them. while i do wanna lab all the characters too.. im not too upset about needing to buy them to have access
I didn't bought the season pass but I'm buying Clive and the stage for sure.
That screen after the Rage Art kill is INSANE! And I've never played FF... with that being said... who tf is tiffa?
Big tiddy melee fighter from FF7
thanks for the videos boss
"A different clive combo, but not an auto combo, but way more damage off the same launcher......... attack throw.... looks like a pretty easy combo so that's a bit more concerning.... etc etc"
Laughs in Alisa, Jin, etc doing 70+ damage, especially Alisa doing like literally what 88 damage in 5 button inputs LITERALLY 5 with 0 execution requirement lol. I think it will be fine😅
I had been holding off on buying Final Fantasy 16 but this DLC convinced me
Yo imagine a soul of cinder dark souls 3 costume for clive
Yo phi, I'm just hoping he has a parry mechanic like Noctis, I really miss that move and making minus frame traps with that move.
With mod we can add winning music 😮
I love Clive and I’m definitely buying him but it’s going suck fighting this character.
I’m gonna hate fighting this guy and I’m gonna love playing him
@ it’s going be a love hate relationship 😂
I know literally nothing about final fantasy but this is probably the closest I'll ever get to new Soulcalibur 😢 so imma fucking play him
that's a big ass stage
26:18 in Tekken 8, There's 2 types of breakables,
1. Balcony, Wall, Floor breaks delete some grey health while no damage to normal health.
2. While The Wall and Floor Blasts do some damage to normal health while keeping the grey health.
@phidx
I hope Odin’s Zantetsuken will be Clive’s rage art in tekken
They already showed his rage art? It's towards the end of the video
Its already shown to be Ifrit in the trailers.
RA is at 28:40
am i wrong in saying that it's a one set second rage art?
Its not rage art but its a finisher move?
Looks like they are reusing some negan animations for his model
Tekken player trying to be open minded challenge (IMPOSSIBLE), jfc these comment are miserable
Sure, would have been nice to have an original Tekken character with this much work put into it, but cool I guess.
yes
Will they have to disclose the roadmap for season 2? I hope so 😂
early b4 new title
Shouldnt have been a tekken guest character..
Im so disappointed by this anime style fighter... my sadness is not leaving
I knew who Clive was, i like FF but i really dislike ANIME fighting style characters
This thing are more for Infinity nikki, not for what a try to see as a serious game
Yeah tekken strayed from what it was which was fist fighting, close combat. Now it’s just magic and bullets and swords. Yoshi was an exception but even he fought normally-ish.
Hopefully in the future square learns to be less posessive of their property after seeing this.
Clive has officially turned me off of ranked. Tekken will now be a casual game for me, he has too much visual clutter and his inputs are pretty braindead. Im excited for the new stage, but not how this character will bring about casuals that will abuse cheese. Oh well, once season 2 "major changes" drop, ill return to ranked
TLDR: Square was shocked they added fanfare at the end of the match when CLive kills with Rage Art
Is there anything not cool to or is it everything u c on the screen u say “thats cool”?! Coz the way i c it is they brought a character that has swords, gun, lightning, wolf, phoenixe, dragon and wings makes him fly to tekken ! What the fuck is that? Thats wt u saying is cool game design! Wt am i seeing ?? Where is tekken ?
I can’t believe i payed 70$ for this shit.
Yoshimitsu, Nina, Mishimas/Lars, Kazumi, Victor, Devil Jin, Devil Kazuya
@@PhiDXyoshimitsu was always grounded despite his sword, he fought like tekken. Nina just got guns in t8, devil jin also fought like tekken(lasers and stuff were always slow gimmicks). Kazumi sucked cause that is when shit really hit the fan. I loved but also hated tekken 7 for what they introduced. This here is not tekken, it’s final fantasy shit that don’t belong in a fist fighting game. Imagine virtua fighter having someone like clive? I repeat:before tekken 6/7 the game was always grounded and noone ever complained about this kind of stuff. If you love this type of anime crap and are happy you can do it in a tekken game then just say it.
@ at least they r original tekken characters and has been ok since tekken 3 and they fucked them up in tekken 8 but my point here is clear, clive shouldn’t be in this game, converting this game to anime and souls games style isn’t wt made tekken the greatest fighting game of all time and u as one of the sounds of this game shouldn’t be so “OK and COOL” with everything the devs put out, its better if u point the negative things and the wrong things about the game and false advertising is gonna lead to only to the death of this franchise, look at wt happened to MK1.
@@paradiseb5950yes, the game where an old man survives a cliff toss and explosions and can catch a bullet with his teeth is definitely grounded in reality
In other words, Clive is the reason dragonov is still OP. Time to protest
Goku is possible man... Love it
Pathetic annoying character to fight against,i guarantee ❤
Ohh its Miguel with a phoenix sword and fire powers. Miguel has come back for revenge
I hate that virtua fighter sucks, because this anime shit isn't Tekken
Bro forgets that Tekken is anime as hell
Tekken literally has a multiple animes going all the way back to the 90's.... wtf you mean isn't Tekken
People are going to misinterpret your point on purpose but yeah. Tekken has always been anime but not the this degree. It’s just getting further out by the entry for the sake of sales
@@xav5787 bro in T7 alone Akuma and Heihachi was frighting through buildings. They literally have lighting form around their hands. Every anime troupe of an android catching feelings for a human. People turning into devils. A bear that knows martial arts. Multiple ppl survive being thrown in lava. Lars. Eliza. Generic rich girl who likes to fight but hides it from her dad. Angel mom Devil dad. Overpowered old people. The opening in T8 was a full anime opening. We fight in space for one of the stages. Heihachi destroyed a big ass meteor despite not having powers. Just to name a few repeating anime troupes.
@@awildtenshi367 You literally just described how the game has gotten more anime by the entry. And the “anime” we refer to is in terms of fighting more so than tropes and story wise
Sick and tired of these kind of characters, and the path took by Tekken in general, can't wait for virtual fighter 6.
VF5 is selling right now and it can be a good 'warm up' until VF6 drops
I am with you. I don’t need to play a game with so many Fx to make me blind and rage about balance that don’t exist anymore. I got the message: my money is better in another place where devs are considerate to their clients and not to their buddy for making their bad collabs to make money on us. We ask for something for years and Harada just like to do anything but what clients are asking. This is bad business. I am not a simp and I don’t pay people to spit on me.
No man you don’t get it. Every character needs forced heat 50/50s and superpowers. Because clearly that’s the only way we can sell a copy of tekken
I love FF16 anc clive but... Holy fk i dont wanna fight him online.
He looks like noctis and victor had a baby on steroids.
Its exhausting just looking at him do all that flashy stuff and its 100% just 1 button. Its too mentally taxing and we dont even know how string he is (he looks REALLY strong. I wouldnt be shocked if the Odin attack as a combo finisher will result in 130 DMG combos. Given the damage heihachi does andnthe bs he has with ultinate heihachi, clive will be just as damaging).
And lets be real, the more damaging combos might not be 222222, but they arent gonna be hard by any standard. Just look at jin.
Zantetsuken doesn't look any more powerful than Leroys cane giving a huge damage combo or Heihachi getting a full round of Super Saiyan. Like the Zantetsuken is only gonna be once maybe twice a match if you're lucky or actively forgoing proper punishes to build the gauge. It also looks like only deals like 50 damage give or take a bit which I'm pretty sure won't even be more damaging than a simple strong move any character can use and it is way less than a full combo.
but we already had this character :/
I just might delete tekken and try virtua fighter when it comes out. Tekken has strayed too far from what i loved about tekken. Just remembered how down to earth and grounded tekken 3, 4 and 5 were, it was a joy playing those games. Now it’s just a shit show of magic and fireworks on screen while you watch characters fly around and try to guess/block for your life. I hate this. Sad really cause tekken was THE game of my life which i loved the most.
lmao do it or not the world moves on without you
If the Tekken devs can make Clive great, imagine what they could to with Tifa
Let it go. Tifa might be more popular, but there's no way she would have been more interesting gameplay-wise.
Shhhhh. It's ok, you'll get tifa next game
Tifa would just be a generic fighter, the complete opposite of what a guest character means to Tekken
I can see it right now, its just Asuka again.
@@w3aken exactly! I've never understood the appeal of wanting guest characters that fit perfectly into Tekken. Tifa is easily a pallet swap of Josie
I regret buying the season pass. Thought it would have had good dlc.
What where you expecting for me Gon
@@r1supI expected for year 1, 3 legacy characters and a new one. Not those guests that will just unbalance everything in the game and make it painful to play against.
About the easy Input for combos Like 2,2,2,2 , you say its easy for new player . Thats why they have Special Style lol so why do you have Special Style if u actually don’t Need it . And Special Style gives u Even Variation in combos and more damage output so your Opinion about it make it more nonsense . I understand u try to See the good in all Things But This just a lil 2 much noob accebility Protection . They already have Special Style . And im Sure Even ff Player that coming to t8 wants a lil Bit more Input Challenge Thema Pressing 1 Button ;) Cuz dnt forget in ff16 to combo through all the eikons it was also execution Heavy to make the best Dmg out of it & t8 is already execution easier than previous tekken so im Sorry to interupt you With your opinion But Yes thats my opinion
Clive would be better in sc7
What do you mean? They reused noctis animations and put a new coat of paint on it and flashy animation and gave him a few new moves.
Even the projectile from bahumut stance, its basically noctis old knife throw move from t7.
It reminds me of the simpsons episode where they slapped on a hat on the malibu stacy doll LOL
It’s a shame, I want to be excited for this character since you can see how much love and passion was poured into his creation in the Tekken engine… but it’s just wrong. Just the wrong pick. Hopefully it brings in new players but it’s definitely at the expense of long time players who find this new sword, gun, and screen cluttering effect stuff to be an ugly and unwelcome direction for the franchise going forward.
You’re wrong
“it’s…wrong” 😂 womp womp old man
Cry me a river
Dawg its a guest character it's not like everyone in Tekken has swords now
You crying fr. Who would you pick that hasn’t already been in tekken before. Please learn to be open minded.
Sword user with a projectile, great work
Why did tekken turn to this cash grab style of character choices? I want to play as heihachi. But i dont want to fall into the corporate greed.
U are privileged as hell, Tekken 8 has 30+ char at release with 3 preset custom + customize option not to mention story and characters ending in full cgs. Find other fg that gave u that at release
Bro if they wanted a character just for a cash grab then they would have picked Tifa. Who is the more recognize able character. Instead they picked a passion pick that they where excited about.
@ my point is. In years of the past. We didn’t have pay for any characters. Now heihachi and eddy. Two staples of the franchise. Are locked behind a pay wall. Then to use ff for those fans. They just want ppl to spend more money. Its scummy af.
@@hendrasusanto5062Gaming has fallen so far you think getting 70 dollars worth of game is privileged now 😭
This particular character is not a cash grab though - just a dumb decision from namco. If they wanted to bring in more players theyd pick someone more popular like tifa not this less popular character.
Oh yae first like
Clive such a lame name
thats what me and my cousin used to think until we played the game and realised clive is actually the goat, he really revolutionizes the name
@@zaigeix sshh, it's okay. Those tifa coomers still coping hard.
@@zaigeixLiterally same boat here
Many names sound lame without additional context. Tekken has a few of these as well: Paul, Steve, Jack with a number, and Eddy. Imagine if Steve Fox were to be a DLC character no one has ever heard of, and someone just says "Lmao you mean the guy you play in Minecraft?"
@@HVTILLVIB Steve is a really generic irl name. No one would say "Steve fox you mean from minecraft lol?" Because Steve from work or from down the street would be the first thing they would think of.