Ten years ago Australia suggested a peace keeping force in Ukraine which NATO laughed at. After a million casualties and five million refugees the idea is back on the table. Genius NATO.
_"It is better to be in Europe, ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost."_ ~Ronald Reagan 🇺🇸
in that same speech (at Normandy), Reagan also said..."You all knew that some things are worth dying for. One’s country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man." I think he'd be disillusioned
@@icu17siberia A speech at the height of Globalization or Era of free trade or the Bretton Woods System, or whatever you want to call it but it's a new world now. I call it neo-mercantilsm but maybe it's something else we have no term for as of yet. And I'm not sure how democracy as we know it will be integrated into this new world order or if it can be at all.
Keep the sanctions on Russia until they stop the insane military spending and focus on internal development. Japan learned that after WW2 and for text 80 years they prospered immensely. Nobody learns from history
Russia did really well out of world war 2 thats why they never learned the same lesson as Japan . They are trying to repeat what they did in the 1940s and rebuild the Soviet empire not realising that times have changed and that kind of blatant aggression no longer works . All it has done is turned them into a rouge state under heavy sanctions.
Fascinating analysis of the potential NATO peacekeeping scenario in Ukraine. The discussion about the 40,000-troop requirement really highlights the logistical complexity of securing such a vast frontline. The interplay between Trump's 'America First' stance and Zelenskyy's need for U.S. involvement presents a crucial diplomatic challenge. What's particularly interesting is how this could affect NATO's internal dynamics - especially given the UK's resource constraints and Trump's demands for increased European defense spending. I wonder how smaller NATO members might position themselves in this arrangement? Could this lead to a more multilateral European defense structure, or will it reinforce U.S. leadership in NATO?
I suspect that Russia will never agree to a European peace keeping force and Nato re-arming and training Ukraine army. Russia could not keep up with the supplies of stored surrplus equipment from the US . Russia will just demand the capitulation of Ukraine before peace talks start. So Trump will accept that peace talks will not happen and re-arm Ukraine to the hilt on a lend lease deal, he likes his deals. No cost to the US tax payer. By the end of 2026 Russia will be out of Kherson and Zaporzhzhia oblasts, out of Crimea and his bridge will be gone.
Ukraine will use the time better than Putin does because they have uranium and they can build their own nuclear weapon because they are the smartest part of the ex-soviet Union who did all that kind of engineering. So that's what's going to happen so it's okay to talk about it now
Ukraine is alredy gearing up for creating nuclear weapons but it will take time and probably, foreign funding. Ukraine also hs valuable minerals. In the meantime, they are doing some amazing engineering with drone production.
Just before Russia invaded, Ukraine declared that it was no longer bound by the Budapest agreement about nuclear weapons thus although not an actual statement of intent to develop nuclear weapons it was allowing themselves the legal provisions should they decide to
It is really about HAVING or NOT HAVING gas, not the price. I don't condone those countries politics but I can appreciate their problem with the most likely cutting off Russian oil exports further. I haven't heard about it but expect there is a NATO offer to help supply them, perhaps from the US. With Trump drilling still more, countries may get LING as cheap as fro Russia. Don't know if my thinking is rational. Learn how to spell. It is Hungary. I think half of America needs to go back to primary school.
Yup, my country may as well be N Korea for the next four years. The orange Don is an absolute madman. I wouldn't trust him to handle the blueprints of an elementary school.
Congress won´t vote for these choices so he´ll pick others more acceptable. Trump knows this but he can say I chose your favoured people but Congress didn´t agree.
Misinformation!. Kellogs plan has already been rejected, biggest problem will be Gas supply line’s. Military Summary 28th December, Alexander Mercouris 29th December. Possible crisis in Europe
They're just trying to keep people in...fear... Not working on me, believe it when I see it, sounds absurd. Great gossip, indeed, TV & media gold, for the naive fear lovers who trust governments & believe whatever governments say😂, this goofy new "UKUS Terrorist" organization.😂 Ooooo, juicy, stuff. 🍿 Bottom line, lol, is...the "UKUS" actually... attacking... anybody...no... nothing...is... happening. 👍👌✅ Allll, just, talk.🗣️ Just a silly idear and nothing more, no actual "UKUS terrorist attacks" are taking place.🥰 So, yaye. Peace on Earth actually exists, this is fake.
Trump/USA as SACEUR have the right to dictate to others how Us weapons may be used. This is an extreme problem. If Trump is going to tell Europe to take care of things he needs to relinquish the right to tell people how they can use American weapons. No wonder Ukraine requires the USA as a guarantor!
We got troops in the EU 1.9 million active troops, more than the US. Troops aren't the problem. We don't have the big weapons industry though. We buy that from the US. We are not putting troops in Ukraine without the US though. My country the Netherlands has a full airforce and air defense with US weapons and also US nukes. We are not going to risk war without the US with the US making all the ammo with the weapons we bought. We need garanties that you'll be fighting with us if Russia want to attack the DMZ. Otherwise those nukes need to go and all US weapons sold. Never liked US nukes on our land without control of the red button anyways. We're a massive target because of those nukes. There are only 100k US troops in Europe. That is not that much and won't even stop a Belarus. There's only 170k US soldiers overseas and 600k EU soldiers overseas. EU troops are doing all the work.
We have plenty of young men coming over the same stretch of water as the little boats of Dunkirk when British troops escaped capture and they have come to help defend against Russia it's stirring reassuring stuff God save the king and stuff people like you and I
Respect the boundaries of others. Stop pushing war. Ukraine should have chosen to be neutral. NATO should stop expanding towards and putting military installations on the boundaries of Russia. That is the cause of this war, in addition to the bad advice taken by zelensky to fight instead of following through on their agreement in Istanbul. May the Lord be with all of you. You all need to speak with the Russians, not rule out dialogue and then talk nonsense about putting troops on the ground. It can't happen without the consent of Russia stop fooling yourselves.
By contract, the US has to make sure Ukraine wins its borders back in tact. Remember, -Ukrainian nukes going to Russia in exchange for Russia's contractual promise to respect Ukraine's borders? The US guaranteed the deal. It would be very bad If the US backs out of that contractual guarante...
They were not Ukrainian nukes they were Soviet Union when the USSR broke up it was agreed that all nukes should return to Russia otherwise there would have been nuclear states all over Eurasia many of these countries have had civil wars and interstate wars Islamic insurrection and revolution. I think it was a practical solution agreed by everyone.
They and the other "guarantors" including Russia, already backed out in 2014 and again now. It's a fact. With Trump, the world again knows that the US cannot be counted on. We are most likely beyond Ukraine getting their borders back. Although I mostly support Biden, his over-cautious policy not allowing Ukraine to have and do what they needed to keep their country in tact, and the congressional Ukraine support stalemate of 6 months, assured Ukraine couldn't win. We have done it again
@@frankdegroot3732 And you seem to have overlooked events in Ukraine especially after the US backed coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014 , and what followed subsequently. Security guarantees can't just be about Ukraine. Any security guarantees have to include the security of the Russian Federation, and ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. .....Just to elaborate on Mr Robertson's point above......When the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 the Russian Federation was recognised as the legal successor State, took the USSR's place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, and many of the liabilities and assets of the USSR. One of the assets was the Soviet nuclear arsenal which had always been under the control of Moscow, not Kiev. Ukraine never had nuclear weapons, they had nuclear weapons placed in Ukraine, just as many European countries for example have American nuclear weapons placed on their soil. Mr Robertson is absolutely spot on to point out that non proliferation was paramount in the minds of everyone.
Nah Europe can use its own troops for its own problems you guys don’t need Americans in a peace keeping force
3 дня назад
It is not just Europe´s problem. And I guess Europe´s help is not necessary against Iran, North Korea and China then? This problem dates back to when Franklin D Roosevelt refused to get rid of the communists...
@@ryszardrakowski2711 Those "professional soldiers" haven't occupied Ukraine in 10 yrs. of fighting, so had to get help from inexperienced, un-free N.K. youngsters!
How well will America do, repelling China without NATO & the Five Eyes, you reckon? Our armed forces went to war in Afghanistan, after "9/11" when Article 5 ("collective defence") was enacted AND American businesses in Europe wouldn't do very well, with Europe at war, would they? Please look beyond the end of your nose, for goodness sake! I'm sick and tired of your lot whinging about NATO! Do you want to be the superpower, or let China overtake you, God forbid?!
The combined strength of Britain, Germany, France, Poland, Italy, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria combined with Ukraine should be able to get Putin back in his cage with out U.S. intervention, think maybe thats what Trumps thinking? 😊
This discussion is also an admission that Ukraine is losing otherwise why discuss peace keeping forces from the West when Ukraine is winning against a poorly led, poorly equipped, poorly trained Russians who are reduced to using shovels
Guarantees from Russia are meaningless. For example, the Minsk Agreement by which Ukraine gave up its stock of nukes was guaranteed by Russia and U.S. A ceasefire mostly benefits Putin rebuilding.
It was acknowledged as a time saving ruse in those days Putin if he had been decisive could have got to Kiev Kyiv or even Keeev in three days and it was to give Ukraine time to organise and reform and Putin fell for it although if he had the USA would have cut off SWIFT transaction services which would have paralysised business in Russia as all cards 💳 would have become useless
All Ukraine needs is an article 5 gaurantee that the west will come to its aid if Russia were to restart hostilities. The Ukrainians themselves will maintain a big army that will garrison this frontline and as we have seen they are more than capable of holding the line giving the west time to respond . What the west should do is enforce a no fly zone over Ukraines airspace as soon as hositilites have stopped , that in itself will probably deter Poo-thing from ever attacking again .
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 well a guarantee of military assistance from the west is the only thing that's going to deter Putin so I say bring them into NATO as soon as possible. I think putin knows Ukraine will join NATO as soon as fighting stops so I reckon he's planning to keep the war going. Unfortunately.
Isn't it well understood that 40,000 would be far too few? That would be useless and a waste of money. It would be cheaper if Ukraine got its own nukes wouldn't it?
Not too few for deterrence vs. actual battleground participation. If the agreement is that hurting any one of those 40k troops triggers a broader NATO response, that may still be effective.
Do you have first clue what "stalemate" means? Google the definition and explain to me how exactly does it apply? This channel is ridiculous. Did anybody ask Putin about peacekeepers?
" Nato in Ukraine" I think the Times should push it even more, more clickbaity titles. Nato in Ukraine!!!! Millions dead!. If you need inspiration, watch Indian news channels. They often throw in clips from the computer game Arma 3.
NATO is actually discussing being within Ukraine's wester border. Not clickbate. Reality. Defending Ukraine from future Russian attack will be the ONLY way there will e a peace treaty. If enough NATO countries including the US will agree is to be seen. We are beyond thinking it will never happen.
we have no option but too increase our defence spending and to atleast 3% of gdp. no point in spending all this money on other institutions if we cant defend them
well it depends if you are next to rusia its absolutely necesary, if not. Not really. its imposible to rusia to advance in ucraine. how could they conquer the whole of poland? or rumania ? even the baltics would be a somewhat hard operation. So the rest of europe its safe. also doesnt the uk and france had nukes to ? the rusians bark too much
EU needs to send troops into western Ukraine with air defense to protect civilians from Russia! NATO needs to accept Ukraine full membership for peace! Russia needs a clear message to withdraw SMO for peace and a deal with Trump!
Trump wont, but he can re-arm Ukraine with huge amounts of military equipment sitting in storage as surplus to requirements. on lend lease so not a donation and arrange training of new Ukraine troops. The US has huge piles of surplus equipment, old stuff stuff that they won´t ver use give for free, stuff which has value sell at market value based on age.. US can give Ulraine, on lend lease, enough equipment to remove Russia. In 2023 US gave 31 old M1Abrams tanks. Sell them on lend lease 500-700 M1Abrams tanks the old ones with some upgrades with newer electronics and reactive armour. Sell them 1500 bradleys. Give them for free 4000 MRAPS etc etc etc, even 200 F-16 as they are traing now 200 more pilots ready in 9 months.
Back in the day we had a thing called "mutually assured destruction" which seems to have been forgotten these days where nuclear war is just a video that can be won. Russia has nuclear submarines patrolling the Atlantic and Pacific with enough nukes to destroy the planet many times over, and if you corner them by sending missiles into Russia they might respond in haste or even by accident. It could be something like what happened in a great movie called " The Bedford Incident", I mean it's a must see.
NATO in Ukraine is WW III. That is a war plan not a peace plan. The war is over Ukraine joining NATO. Russia won't stop fighting until it is assured that Ukraine will be neutral like Finland was during the Cold War.
How can the Americans be involved when they're lead by a guy with the attention span of a gold fish, if he can't see a way to enrich himself he,ll quickly lose interest
Europe has every right to defend themselves from Russia aggression. So if that means NATO being present then so be it. If Russia isn't going to do anything bad then they have nothing to worry about. 😊
What? NATO did not move East, the former Warsaw Pact countries ran west on their own accord. All of them are prospering as free nations and are not subject to the will of Moscow. The problem is clearly Moscow and their Imperialistic sense of entitlement to vassal states.
That's the craziest statement Europe is past master at self destruction either through wars or like Germany feeling so guilty as a masochistic fetish they unilaterally welcome masses of Africans and Asians
It is interesting that France, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Finland not mention in the Guarantor analysis. US cannot finance and man your security needs. EU needs to step up, Man up.
are the Russian Troops all placed and concentrated in in points and lines along the battle linens. I would have thought most of the Russians be mapped out with all the surveillance.
Not sure what you mean but Russia has limited and undertrained, starving, troops to be everywhere and the North Korean troops disaster along with desertions by soldiers of both countries, doesn't allow Russia to "be mapped out". Zelensky was hoping that Russia would divert troops in the west to fight in Kursk but he didn't, proving he didn't have enough troops. He put the North Koreans in Kursk, with some success so far.
Don't worry about it. We realize it's difficult for you to spend enough to provide your own defense. We are happy to pay our taxes to cover the difference between what you need and what is comfortable for you to spend. Yours truly, The US Taxpayer /s
Too many immigrants here..not enough troops for Nato...couldn't we offer a path to citizenship for enlisting in serving..seems like it would cost less than a massive deportation ❤
"It's not a peace plan; it's the United States' fantasy plan on how to weasel themselves out of a situation where they've been too humiliated. The problem is that no one ever asks the Russians what they think about a peace plan-officially. The reality is, the Russian government has their own demands and their own vision of what peace would look like, and those haven't been seriously considered in these discussions."
Posturing like we are nation and society and economy of 1940 is the best way to distract the people just like all the WW2 themed movies that we get bombarded with to distract from our present reality
What's the question? Would they be next? Probably. They are the NATO member which has dedicated the largest percentage, over 4%, to militarize. I believe other NATO troops have moved to the Polish border in support.
@@amandabosca1714 Fans of "based sigma military poland" for some reason do not say that 4% of their GDP in absolute terms is half as much as 1.5% of Germany, which they often like to criticize lately lol.
times should be ashamed of themselves stop war mongering. Send all your own families to the front first. The public have had enough of this horror show.
Actually they are among the most interesting and intelligent and mostly the chat responses are from discerning people who have interesting comments, yours being an exception.
Ten years ago Australia suggested a peace keeping force in Ukraine which NATO laughed at. After a million casualties and five million refugees the idea is back on the table. Genius NATO.
It won't happen.
Australia should worry about it's own country and get the USA military bases out to fk instead of being a pathetic dog for their masters.
@@artbargestudio I may have to happen,
Russia will veto it now like they did 10 years ago. They think they can win WW1 style.
I agree Im disgusted with the cowardess, hypocracy and stupidity of the "west".
_"It is better to be in Europe, ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost."_
~Ronald Reagan 🇺🇸
Stay out of Europe's disputes. - George Washington, _Farewell Address_
@@guydreamr Yes, but this was prior to arming the Soviets or interfering once. Staying out afterwards is not staying out.
@urlauburlaub2222 Staying out *anytime* is in fact...staying out.
in that same speech (at Normandy), Reagan also said..."You all knew that some things are worth dying for. One’s country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man." I think he'd be disillusioned
@@icu17siberia
A speech at the height of Globalization or Era of free trade or the Bretton Woods System, or whatever you want to call it but it's a new world now. I call it neo-mercantilsm but maybe it's something else we have no term for as of yet. And I'm not sure how democracy as we know it will be integrated into this new world order or if it can be at all.
Giving putin any ground would be a war crime. In my opinion
You support war crimes so why do you care?
Russia won the war. What are you talking about. The winner tells how and when.
@@BIGGUY401it's not a game. International law does not allow for a country to steal land from other countries in this way.
No usa troops will be in ukraine.
@@BIGGUY401 then why is ukraine still standing
We have been too complacent and acceptance in our free world!You know,...what could go wrong? Do unto others etc..SLAVA UKRAINE! From Australia.
😂 Australia is an occupied country by the British and USA. This free world stuff is hilarious.
@@jamesgreen1116
Ok ruskie!
SLAVA KOKAINA 😂😂😂😂
DO YOU SMOKE 🚬?
LOOKS LIKE YOU BECOME SO WISE 😂😂😂
Indeed!
Keep the sanctions on Russia until they stop the insane military spending and focus on internal development. Japan learned that after WW2 and for text 80 years they prospered immensely. Nobody learns from history
The sanctions failed miserably
Russia never learns and never feels sorry.
TEXT?
Russia did really well out of world war 2 thats why they never learned the same lesson as Japan .
They are trying to repeat what they did in the 1940s and rebuild the Soviet empire not realising that times have changed and that kind of blatant aggression no longer works . All it has done is turned them into a rouge state under heavy sanctions.
It is not you business how the Russians want to live. Just take care of your own country's affairs.
Donal T. can not help us in Europe...., we have to stay together in Europe...
Yes,...PLEASE.. I hope and pray for all of you. From Australia.
Yes...PLEASE...I hope and pray for all of you who have been in the hot spot! From Australia 🇦🇺
Agreed. The American taxpayers are tired of paying for your infantile wars.
@KaliYugaMan1947 get the USA out of your own country
@@JohnnyinMN you joking ordumb????? yous cause wars that we pick up pieces fool
Sorry to tell you this, but US/Nato wont dictate the peace plan. It is the Russia who drive the terms.
Fascinating analysis of the potential NATO peacekeeping scenario in Ukraine. The discussion about the 40,000-troop requirement really highlights the logistical complexity of securing such a vast frontline. The interplay between Trump's 'America First' stance and Zelenskyy's need for U.S. involvement presents a crucial diplomatic challenge. What's particularly interesting is how this could affect NATO's internal dynamics - especially given the UK's resource constraints and Trump's demands for increased European defense spending. I wonder how smaller NATO members might position themselves in this arrangement? Could this lead to a more multilateral European defense structure, or will it reinforce U.S. leadership in NATO?
40,000 is no where near enough to oversee the battle front.It would be cheaper just to give Ukraine all the weapons it needs to stop russia.
I suspect that Russia will never agree to a European peace keeping force and Nato re-arming and training Ukraine army. Russia could not keep up with the supplies of stored surrplus equipment from the US . Russia will just demand the capitulation of Ukraine before peace talks start.
So Trump will accept that peace talks will not happen and re-arm Ukraine to the hilt on a lend lease deal, he likes his deals. No cost to the US tax payer. By the end of 2026 Russia will be out of Kherson and Zaporzhzhia oblasts, out of Crimea and his bridge will be gone.
It is off the table according to Lavrov, and Russia.
Ukraine will use the time better than Putin does because they have uranium and they can build their own nuclear weapon because they are the smartest part of the ex-soviet Union who did all that kind of engineering. So that's what's going to happen so it's okay to talk about it now
Ukraine is alredy gearing up for creating nuclear weapons but it will take time and probably, foreign funding. Ukraine also hs valuable minerals. In the meantime, they are doing some amazing engineering with drone production.
The university’s are Russian 😂😂😂
The university’s are Russian. 😂😂😂😂
Except, Russia isnt giving Ukraine any time. The dunce here has no idea what he is talking about.
Just before Russia invaded, Ukraine declared that it was no longer bound by the Budapest agreement about nuclear weapons thus although not an actual statement of intent to develop nuclear weapons it was allowing themselves the legal provisions should they decide to
❤Ukraine ❤
Zelenskyy 🤢👎
I hate, red hearts, anyone using red hearts, is a creep, with creepy, motives, creep.
Or blue hearts.
🤢
Hungry and Slovakia are pro cheap gas and not much more.
It is really about HAVING or NOT HAVING gas, not the price. I don't condone those countries politics but I can appreciate their problem with the most likely cutting off Russian oil exports further. I haven't heard about it but expect there is a NATO offer to help supply them, perhaps from the US. With Trump drilling still more, countries may get LING as cheap as fro Russia. Don't know if my thinking is rational. Learn how to spell. It is Hungary. I think half of America needs to go back to primary school.
They are doing what's best for their countries
@@michaelanukam3314 They are free to get out of EU and Nato but for some strange reason they love EU money ad Nato protection more than anything else.
@@michaelanukam3314 which is why they should leave NATO.
@@Blanka1100 it's the
Other wat round. EU needs them
P.S. 'His' choices for Intelligence chiefs will give the Allies second thoughts about sharing intelligence, I'm sure! God help us all!
Yes, just at a time when we really need rational leadership in the US, we have Trump.
Not forgetting that Trump is a convicted felon, is that anything to be proud of ? America's first Commander and Chief Crook .
Yup, my country may as well be N Korea for the next four years. The orange Don is an absolute madman. I wouldn't trust him to handle the blueprints of an elementary school.
Congress won´t vote for these choices so he´ll pick others more acceptable. Trump knows this but he can say I chose your favoured people but Congress didn´t agree.
Misinformation!. Kellogs plan has already been rejected, biggest problem will be Gas supply line’s. Military Summary 28th December, Alexander Mercouris 29th December. Possible crisis in Europe
People are totally out of touch and deluded if they believe Trump will ever send US troops into Ukraine. Unbelievable! 😂😂
@@jeztecsrandoms Get those Yankeedoodles out there!
That may be the NATO plan. I don't know it is the US plan. The US may only provide necessary support services.
They're just trying to keep people in...fear...
Not working on me, believe it when I see it, sounds absurd.
Great gossip, indeed, TV & media gold, for the naive fear lovers who trust governments & believe whatever governments say😂, this goofy new "UKUS Terrorist" organization.😂
Ooooo, juicy, stuff.
🍿
Bottom line, lol, is...the "UKUS" actually... attacking... anybody...no... nothing...is... happening.
👍👌✅
Allll, just, talk.🗣️
Just a silly idear and nothing more, no actual "UKUS terrorist attacks" are taking place.🥰
So, yaye.
Peace on Earth actually exists, this is fake.
Trump/USA as SACEUR have the right to dictate to others how Us weapons may be used. This is an extreme problem. If Trump is going to tell Europe to take care of things he needs to relinquish the right to tell people how they can use American weapons.
No wonder Ukraine requires the USA as a guarantor!
If Nato had sorted Putler out when he invaded and stole Crimea we wouldn't be having this problem now !
NATO can't do jack squat against Russia! Russia is obliterating NATO in Ukraine right now!
??
Bingo. 🎯 Weakness only invites moskal aggression.
nato is a joke ask the taliban
If euros ever tried anything besides waiting on the US
We dont have enough troops to defend our own country never mind someone else's country
We got troops in the EU 1.9 million active troops, more than the US. Troops aren't the problem. We don't have the big weapons industry though. We buy that from the US. We are not putting troops in Ukraine without the US though. My country the Netherlands has a full airforce and air defense with US weapons and also US nukes. We are not going to risk war without the US with the US making all the ammo with the weapons we bought. We need garanties that you'll be fighting with us if Russia want to attack the DMZ. Otherwise those nukes need to go and all US weapons sold. Never liked US nukes on our land without control of the red button anyways. We're a massive target because of those nukes.
There are only 100k US troops in Europe. That is not that much and won't even stop a Belarus. There's only 170k US soldiers overseas and 600k EU soldiers overseas. EU troops are doing all the work.
@@Joey-ct8bm Change needs to happen in Britain
We have plenty of young men coming over the same stretch of water as the little boats of Dunkirk when British troops escaped capture and they have come to help defend against Russia it's stirring reassuring stuff God save the king and stuff people like you and I
Why are they even discussing NATO and Ukraine. Will not happen
Trump is totally out of their depth
💯
nowhere near as bad as demented biden
demented biden isnt then
Nope
TDS
Remarkable how so many can be experts without searching for the truth.
According to all sources the Ukraine war is finished. Didn't Trump promise to end it in 24 hours ? What happened ?
Jan 20 ring a bell?
@billmccarthy5920 He said he'd do it before his inauguration, I know he did because I heard him. 🤔
@@BrianWillcox-qp2hr well, 21 days to go then. Hope he can pull it off, would rather have a ceasefire than an excuse for more Trump bashing.
@billmccarthy5920 I hope he does but I think this Ukraine joining NATO business is going to be the elephant in the room.
@@BrianWillcox-qp2hr yes, same here.
Respect the boundaries of others. Stop pushing war. Ukraine should have chosen to be neutral. NATO should stop expanding towards and putting military installations on the boundaries of Russia.
That is the cause of this war, in addition to the bad advice taken by zelensky to fight instead of following through on their agreement in Istanbul.
May the Lord be with all of you. You all need to speak with the Russians, not rule out dialogue and then talk nonsense about putting troops on the ground. It can't happen without the consent of Russia stop fooling yourselves.
By contract, the US has to make sure Ukraine wins its borders back in tact. Remember, -Ukrainian nukes going to Russia in exchange for Russia's contractual promise to respect Ukraine's borders? The US guaranteed the deal. It would be very bad If the US backs out of that contractual guarante...
There's fk all the USA can do 😂
They were not Ukrainian nukes they were Soviet Union when the USSR broke up it was agreed that all nukes should return to Russia otherwise there would have been nuclear states all over Eurasia many of these countries have had civil wars and interstate wars Islamic insurrection and revolution. I think it was a practical solution agreed by everyone.
You forgot the part of the guarantees to protect Ukraine @@InnesRobertson
They and the other "guarantors" including Russia, already backed out in 2014 and again now. It's a fact. With Trump, the world again knows that the US cannot be counted on. We are most likely beyond Ukraine getting their borders back. Although I mostly support Biden, his over-cautious policy not allowing Ukraine to have and do what they needed to keep their country in tact, and the congressional Ukraine support stalemate of 6 months, assured Ukraine couldn't win. We have done it again
@@frankdegroot3732 And you seem to have overlooked events in Ukraine especially after the US backed coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014 , and what followed subsequently. Security guarantees can't just be about Ukraine. Any security guarantees have to include the security of the Russian Federation, and ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. .....Just to elaborate on Mr Robertson's point above......When the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 the Russian Federation was recognised as the legal successor State, took the USSR's place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, and many of the liabilities and assets of the USSR. One of the assets was the Soviet nuclear arsenal which had always been under the control of Moscow, not Kiev. Ukraine never had nuclear weapons, they had nuclear weapons placed in Ukraine, just as many European countries for example have American nuclear weapons placed on their soil. Mr Robertson is absolutely spot on to point out that non proliferation was paramount in the minds of everyone.
Trump has reintroduced Richard Nixon’s ‘madman theory’ but I think Trump would actually do something drastic if provoked
Tread lightly
There were protests in Amsterdam.
And?
Always
Always because payed by NGO’s
@@bobohare4825 they were booting NATO
@@koiguidenishikigoi4972I doubt that very much.
How to proof who attached explosives to the hull of hostile ships
Nobody knows but those involved.🔮
proof? prove? What are you talking about, please?
@@amandabosca1714 Ruzzian troll failure.
Nah Europe can use its own troops for its own problems you guys don’t need Americans in a peace keeping force
It is not just Europe´s problem. And I guess Europe´s help is not necessary against Iran, North Korea and China then? This problem dates back to when Franklin D Roosevelt refused to get rid of the communists...
A full scale war in Europe will affect everyone, especially the US. Remember the 20th century? Now we're even more connected.
How many troops can pathetic Europe field against 1.5 million Russian professional soldiers?
@@ryszardrakowski2711 Those "professional soldiers" haven't occupied Ukraine in 10 yrs. of fighting, so had to get help from inexperienced, un-free N.K. youngsters!
How well will America do, repelling China without NATO & the Five Eyes, you reckon? Our armed forces went to war in Afghanistan, after "9/11" when Article 5 ("collective defence") was enacted AND American businesses in Europe wouldn't do very well, with Europe at war, would they? Please look beyond the end of your nose, for goodness sake! I'm sick and tired of your lot whinging about NATO! Do you want to be the superpower, or let China overtake you, God forbid?!
The combined strength of Britain, Germany, France, Poland, Italy, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria combined with Ukraine should be able to get Putin back in his cage with out U.S. intervention, think maybe thats what Trumps thinking? 😊
Čo si zaspal dobu ? veď ty už dávno z medveďom bojujú ale sú to len neškodný gumový medvedici!!!
Hahahaha, you funny,.
This discussion is also an admission that Ukraine is losing otherwise why discuss peace keeping forces from the West when Ukraine is winning against a poorly led, poorly equipped, poorly trained Russians who are reduced to using shovels
Wrong. You’re confusing “peacekeeping” with the broader concept of having boots on the ground.
Europe 🇪🇺 needs to work #Together and continue to keep strengthening its defenses
What defenses
Guarantees from Russia are meaningless. For example, the Minsk Agreement by which Ukraine gave up its stock of nukes was guaranteed by Russia and U.S.
A ceasefire mostly benefits Putin rebuilding.
Worth mentioning that Angela Merkel said that 'they' EU/US/UK never intended to honour that agreement....So why would you call out only Russia?
It was acknowledged as a time saving ruse in those days Putin if he had been decisive could have got to Kiev Kyiv or even Keeev in three days and it was to give Ukraine time to organise and reform and Putin fell for it although if he had the USA would have cut off SWIFT transaction services which would have paralysised business in Russia as all cards 💳 would have become useless
All Ukraine needs is an article 5 gaurantee that the west will come to its aid if Russia were to restart hostilities. The Ukrainians themselves will maintain a big army that will garrison this frontline and as we have seen they are more than capable of holding the line giving the west time to respond .
What the west should do is enforce a no fly zone over Ukraines airspace as soon as hositilites have stopped , that in itself will probably deter Poo-thing from ever attacking again .
Poo-thing😂😂😂
That means that Ukraine would be a NATO member
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 well a guarantee of military assistance from the west is the only thing that's going to deter Putin so I say bring them into NATO as soon as possible.
I think putin knows Ukraine will join NATO as soon as fighting stops so I reckon he's planning to keep the war going. Unfortunately.
Isn't it well understood that 40,000 would be far too few? That would be useless and a waste of money. It would be cheaper if Ukraine got its own nukes wouldn't it?
They are building them again since they have the know how but it will take time and financial support.
Not too few for deterrence vs. actual battleground participation. If the agreement is that hurting any one of those 40k troops triggers a broader NATO response, that may still be effective.
Freedom is affordable. We will all sacrifice for a 🆓 🌎.
With us or without us the European must step in if they want peace there.🧠say that since day one.
Now it is clear who the agresive is !😅
Trump should do something big on his first day, NATO needs to be in Ukraine
Do you have first clue what "stalemate" means? Google the definition and explain to me how exactly does it apply? This channel is ridiculous. Did anybody ask Putin about peacekeepers?
How do you take this analysis after hearing him say the 2024 part has been a stalemate? Like what?
This is the moment you realise Russia has advanced 25 km in a year.
If Trump were an educated man he would be reflecting on Chamberlain's infamous "Peace in our Time" 1938 Munich negotiations.
Trying to predict what Trump will do is impossible.
Everybody is going to just watch how things go.
One of his few consistencies is that he will act in the ostensible interests of Israel's right-wing government.
Well it's a nightmare scenario to have Article 5 applied to the Ukrainian region, that sounds like a recipe for fireworks
It's a shame the UK isn't the power it used to be. The vultures pick at the corpse of what she used to be, while the capital holds the husk together.
We're going to find out we've been riding on glory and face a reckoning
" Nato in Ukraine" I think the Times should push it even more, more clickbaity titles. Nato in Ukraine!!!! Millions dead!. If you need inspiration, watch Indian news channels. They often throw in clips from the computer game Arma 3.
NATO is actually discussing being within Ukraine's wester border. Not clickbate. Reality. Defending Ukraine from future Russian attack will be the ONLY way there will e a peace treaty. If enough NATO countries including the US will agree is to be seen. We are beyond thinking it will never happen.
we have no option but too increase our defence spending and to atleast 3% of gdp. no point in spending all this money on other institutions if we cant defend them
well it depends if you are next to rusia its absolutely necesary, if not. Not really. its imposible to rusia to advance in ucraine. how could they conquer the whole of poland? or rumania ? even the baltics would be a somewhat hard operation. So the rest of europe its safe. also doesnt the uk and france had nukes to ? the rusians bark too much
For the truth must read the book "Exposing Putins Lies"
Anyone discussing this situation has to remember that Trump is beholden to Putin. He will do what Vlad tells him to do.
Why do you play a minute of the bloody interview before starting the interview?
As an intro, the addition of which is impacting the algorithm somehow.
Putin owes Ukraine money...
The EU has $300bn in frozen bank balances- Theat will go towards the rebuild and modernisation of Ukraine thank you Russia.
This is a ruse to join in the war as attacks on NATO troops in Ukraine would be an article 4 issue
EU needs to send troops into western Ukraine with air defense to protect civilians from Russia! NATO needs to accept Ukraine full membership for peace! Russia needs a clear message to withdraw SMO for peace and a deal with Trump!
Blah blah
Trump wont, but he can re-arm Ukraine with huge amounts of military equipment sitting in storage as surplus to requirements. on lend lease so not a donation and arrange training of new Ukraine troops. The US has huge piles of surplus equipment, old stuff stuff that they won´t ver use give for free, stuff which has value sell at market value based on age.. US can give Ulraine, on lend lease, enough equipment to remove Russia. In 2023 US gave 31 old M1Abrams tanks. Sell them on lend lease 500-700 M1Abrams tanks the old ones with some upgrades with newer electronics and reactive armour. Sell them 1500 bradleys. Give them for free 4000 MRAPS etc etc etc, even 200 F-16 as they are traing now 200 more pilots ready in 9 months.
We have been hering that every day Russia is Big dan them.
Question
Is Mexico interested in joining NATO ?
What is the meaning behind that question?
@amandabosca1714 Mexico becomes stronger military, maybe even stronger economically ?
Mexico will not join NATO. It would never be able to meet the requirements.
If they're not already,each countries SAS should be in Russia sabotaging, cutting cables has given us permission. Doing nothing is just plain wrong.
Russia can also do likewise in Britain so be careful what you wish for ;)
permission to do what? cutting cables? the logic?
Should be there already
Back in the day we had a thing called "mutually assured destruction" which seems to have been forgotten these days where nuclear war is just a video that can be won. Russia has nuclear submarines patrolling the Atlantic and Pacific with enough nukes to destroy the planet many times over, and if you corner them by sending missiles into Russia they might respond in haste or even by accident. It could be something like what happened in a great movie called " The Bedford Incident", I mean it's a must see.
Putin can’t tell what to do,Ukraine must join NATO, no matter what,it is important,Ukraine land belong to Ukraine people,
Urban could ask his tank corps mate Pablo Miller (Skripal's MI6 handler) what really happened in Salisbury
NATO in Ukraine is WW III. That is a war plan not a peace plan. The war is over Ukraine joining NATO. Russia won't stop fighting until it is assured that Ukraine will be neutral like Finland was during the Cold War.
How can the Americans be involved when they're lead by a guy with the attention span of a gold fish, if he can't see a way to enrich himself he,ll quickly lose interest
Europe has every right to defend themselves from Russia aggression. So if that means NATO being present then so be it.
If Russia isn't going to do anything bad then they have nothing to worry about. 😊
Use African Union troops!! They need to do border guarantees
Yeh Putin will love that........ Not
The problem isn't Ukraine & Russian but American and NATO.....To end the war, America & NATO should not be provocateurs....!
What? NATO did not move East, the former Warsaw Pact countries ran west on their own accord. All of them are prospering as free nations and are not subject to the will of Moscow. The problem is clearly Moscow and their Imperialistic sense of entitlement to vassal states.
Europe protects Europe
That's the craziest statement Europe is past master at self destruction either through wars or like Germany feeling so guilty as a masochistic fetish they unilaterally welcome masses of Africans and Asians
It is interesting that France, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Finland not mention in the Guarantor analysis. US cannot finance and man your security needs. EU needs to step up, Man up.
Im still trying to figure out why you think russia will come back or even wants west ukraine or eastern europe for that matter. Theres nothing there.
Duuh He didnt say that
No it wont 😂
are the Russian Troops all placed and concentrated in in points and lines along the battle linens. I would have thought most of the Russians be mapped out with all the surveillance.
Not sure what you mean but Russia has limited and undertrained, starving, troops to be everywhere and the North Korean troops disaster along with desertions by soldiers of both countries, doesn't allow Russia to "be mapped out". Zelensky was hoping that Russia would divert troops in the west to fight in Kursk but he didn't, proving he didn't have enough troops. He put the North Koreans in Kursk, with some success so far.
Yup.
A DMZ in Europe....
MAX
Let's have peacekeepers from countries that were not involved in the conflict.
But i gather Putin doesn't want Trumps plan 😢
lol, guys you can go and volunteer to the ucranian army if you crave war so much
No
No deal
Don't worry about it. We realize it's difficult for you to spend enough to provide your own defense. We are happy to pay our taxes to cover the difference between what you need and what is comfortable for you to spend.
Yours truly,
The US Taxpayer
/s
And do you really need so many bots around here everyday? You dont think you are laying it on a bit thick? 😂
Nato troops in Ukraine... 😂Putin is becoming enraged😵😠😠😠
Too many immigrants here..not enough troops for Nato...couldn't we offer a path to citizenship for enlisting in serving..seems like it would cost less than a massive deportation ❤
Careful what you wish for...
Nato and Ukraine are the victims 😂😂😂
Three smilies express your happiness with that? I wonder what was edited out.
Who invaded Ukraine? Did any country invade Russia?
GLORY TO THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ❤🎉 🇷🇺 💪💪
Winnie the Pooh Bear is gay 🌈 sparkly ✨ fairy 🧚
Slava Ukraine! 🇺🇦 🇺🇸
Kan je even toelichten waarom Rusland oekraine is binnengevallen ?
What 2025 peace plan?
"It's not a peace plan; it's the United States' fantasy plan on how to weasel themselves out of a situation where they've been too humiliated. The problem is that no one ever asks the Russians what they think about a peace plan-officially. The reality is, the Russian government has their own demands and their own vision of what peace would look like, and those haven't been seriously considered in these discussions."
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL ISSUES IN THE UK PLEASE.
Posturing like we are nation and society and economy of 1940 is the best way to distract the people just like all the WW2 themed movies that we get bombarded with to distract from our present reality
Hilarious effect of good old Afghan stuff on this genius
Poland?
What's the question? Would they be next? Probably. They are the NATO member which has dedicated the largest percentage, over 4%, to militarize. I believe other NATO troops have moved to the Polish border in support.
@@amandabosca1714 Putin invades non Nato neighbors only. Poland joined Nato for a reason.
@@amandabosca1714 Fans of "based sigma military poland" for some reason do not say that 4% of their GDP in absolute terms is half as much as 1.5% of Germany, which they often like to criticize lately lol.
Trump: I am going to build a great beauiful wall and make Russia pay for it.
VP TRUMP CANNOT END IT IN 24 HOURS
PUKIN LAUGHS AT CHUMP
id 100% go be stationed in Ukraine lol
Simple buy American weapons and buy American oil and gas...hahahaha. Make America great again with your money.
If UA can’t go to Nato…Nato will go to UA! 😂and Russistan will be 😡
Depending on Weapons company and financial Deep state ,, allow him or not 😂
Poor UK 🇬🇧 is falling 😂😂😂
Here's 50 cents wumao 😂
A bot laugh, every time a human die...
( Sweden )
times should be ashamed of themselves stop war mongering. Send all your own families to the front first. The public have had enough of this horror show.
Sending my family is not gonna de-putinise Russia.
Actually most have had enough of people like you. ....and learn how to write english
LOL..these Times Radio analysts are living in a fantasy world.
Actually they are among the most interesting and intelligent and mostly the chat responses are from discerning people who have interesting comments, yours being an exception.
@@amandabosca1714 Give over!
sure are its full cope mode
What is the qualifications for being a presenter at times radio?
Why isn't there a peacekeeping force on the border of Israel?
We don't Hamas return the hostages?
-> Why
Because Hamas is not as well-known for breaching agreements as ruzzia is.
This guy is suffering from too much day dreaming symptoms