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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2020
- DNA leads to the identity of a woman known as the "Lime Lady."
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As a Woman Veteran, I wore the same uniform. She was in the Women's Army corps. Her name sounds familiar. I was a Personnel Records Specialist while serving before her death in 1980. May you Rest In Peace Sister Veteran Tamara Tygard, and may you be in the comfort of God! Thanks for the tireless effort of this detective who went above and beyond to solve her identity!!!
I can see the pain in this man’s face and hear it in his voice. This whole story is heartbreaking.
Amen.
You can never say that this lovely man doesn't care about his job. The emotion was coming through that entire video.
Very awesome that he is still alive and on the force to pursue this!
@@cindland He didn't get the case until 2008. :)
@@theresia1047 oh well that makes a difference haha. But he is an older guy...I thought he was retired at first and was being interviewed about earlier on.
I disagree, A LOT. It's not like the cops have a high closure rate for murder. All of the resources wasted on this is insane. The nationwide closure rate (solve rate) has plummeted since the 60s when it was in the 90s percentage. It is now down to 63%. They are no closer to an arrest and the murderer may very well be dead of old age.
It's a publicity stunt and a costly one at that. People who committed murders last week are getting away while this idiot is chasing a 40 year old murder. Just to add icing to an already lousy cake, she doesn't even have any close living relative to mourn her.
@@tarstarkusz I agree on a practical level. But the point is that even the dead from 40 yrs ago deserve their “voice”. I’m glad there is this kind of project to help in a positive way.
Capt Green’s reverence for his work is quite evident in the way he conveyed Tamera’s story. He had a father’a concern and care in his voice. RIP Tamera, Thank You For Your Service
You can see how he feels it. I am so glad there are more and more cases like this being solved. I think there are a LOT of bad people out there sweating as their deeds come closer to being shown up.
Idiot! Her name is Tamara.
@@FFM0594 begone typo Nazi.
@@FFM0594 ,
*GFY*
Fuck off TROLL
*I’m grateful that she’s no longer anonymous...* 🙏🏻
Sad that all her family passed without knowing anything about her disappearance. But so glad she has her name.
@Bill Sbac They do now...
GREAT JOB SHERIFF YOU FOUND A MISSING VETERAN THAT SERVED IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW HER SERVICE RECORD, MEDALS, AND AWARDS; AND WHAT WAS HER CAREER FIELD.
This whole thing is stupid, a waste of time and money and little more than a publicity stunt. Of course, they are no closer to naming a suspect.
They trot crap like this out all the time. Since the 1960s, the closure rate for homicide nationwide has dropped from about 91% to 63% today. That means 37 of every hundred murderers go free.
Instead of chasing the killer of a woman who has no close living relatives, they should be putting their scarce expensive resources towards murders committed in the last 20 years.
@@KLeVoyBarnes Nah. It might be great if he solved some more recent murders. This is a stupid publicity stunt. See my other comment for the explanation.
@@tarstarkusz, you have GOT to be one of the coldest, cruelest people to EVER post on RUclips! Sooner or later karma always comes around and this veteran deserved a better fate than just a "Jane Doe" grave site. I would guess you feel the same way about the program to identify the remains of those murdered at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, or those found on the subsequent battle fields of the war that followed. At least her surviving cousins now have some closure as to the mystery that has been in their family all of these years and there is NO statute of limitations on a homicide so maybe the scum that killed her will finally pay! I really feel sorry for you and people like you.
These police, like these detective, should be congratulated for the perserverance and hard work they did
to try to identify these poor souls and others we don't hear from. Great Job
Great job sitting by the
Phone. ...
What's the matter with you? Don't you know we're supposed to defund these people? Luddite.
It's great to hear Tamara got her identity back. A shame her family died without knowing. But I hope they can find out more of what happened to her, and why?!
This is one that I'd like to see a movie made or some kind of documentary style program.
Yes I agree! The perpetrator obviously went to some lengths to conceal her identity with the Lye
He hated the name “Lime Lady” and couldn’t conceal it.
I notice it
conceal
corona lady
REST IN PEACE NOW TAMERA AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE..
Amen 🙏🏽🇺🇸
God bless and rest in peace, Tamara and her family 🙏
Yes a fellow Vet. We were serving at the same time. US Army. RIP brave soldier...
She will not rest completely until her killer is identified
Idiot! Her name is Tamara.
Her remains were found on her 21st birthday. How very sad. RIP angel, RIP.
The odds on that are 364 to 1. Can't accept that this is just random. She is part of this.
Been following this case for a few years. Glad she can have the peace of having her name back.
As a female veteran I salute her. 🥀🇺🇸
And as a veteran I salute you! Thank you for your service. 🙋👍🇺🇸
Me, too. I was in the Army also.
I was enlisted about the same time I also share the same year of her birth, rest in peace my sister.
As a Male veteran, I salute you.
As a Male veteran I salute her as well.
You can hear it in his voice, he's really emotional & really cares. These are the kinds of police that the media should be reporting because this is how most cops are. I'm not gonna get into the part where the media only releases the part or parts of evidence that pushes the "Cops kill Black people" narrative, not right here. Right here I want to thank this police officer & the many many many officers like him who take pride in being good police officers because without all of you & all that you do the rest of us wouldn't be able to live like we do.
The Gretna Emergency Medical Team is one of the best I have ever encountered. They are trained well and care. This is because City of Gretna made sure they were well trained.
What a decent cop. Many cops his age are. They were trained in a different time. He also shares the credit.
Not necessarily, cops were probably even more racist back then.
It doesn't have anything to do with his age for fuck's sake.
We have bad people and we have good people and it doesn't matter what your profession is because if you are a good person than you will be a good cop, a good fireman, a good doctor, a good anything you want to be. The only thing that matters about people is what you are made of inside your body and inside your heart. You can be corrupted but only if you let yourself be corrupted. God Bless you and stay safe !
@@Page-Hendryx You can swear all you like although it does not add to your credibility. My experience is that most cops were more polite and less violent in the 1950s and 1960s than they are today.
Agreed and they were protected from prosecution.
I like how he made sure to credit everyone that helped
Criminals all over the world are looking over their shoulders worrying about being caught finally
I pray so! I hope they get no peace or rest
Usually the murderer and the victim knew each other…
at least a couple a month are found.
They don't get away with things like this. Never will. There will be karma, even after death.
90 percent of the culprits in these types of cases are low iq low impulse control and they are of a class that is safeguarded by hostile elites who make sure that they proliferate around the high iq high impulse control population. Very few are cunning enough or have a long enough time horizon to even remember or follow the victims story.
May the Dead Rest In Peace. Keep in mind that Law Enforcement get eaten up alive over the years with the task of gruesome crime solving.
Glad she was finally identified. Such a sad story,
Tamara was a “fifty-niner” like me!!! We both were born in 1959! Tamara, May God rest your
soul girlfriend. Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
You are gone but NOT forgotten 🙋🏽♀️💕💐
Me too! But I did not serve. Bless you .
@Chris Tombs
I thought YOU were an asshole. Turned out I was right!
I'm a 59er too
Me too!
I knew this was going to do with genetic genealogy.
As a genetic genealogist, I love stories like this. RIP Tamara Lee Tigard!
Ancient Egyptians believed that without a name a soul could not move on to the next life. So glad she finally has her name but I am sad her family died never knowing what happened to her. May they be all together now in God's gentle embrace.
@@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 There is Norse mythology, Mesopotamian mythology, Greek mythology, Roman mythology, Mayan mythology, and Egyptian mythology to name but a few. Presently we endure an irrational collection of Christian mythology, but realistically even that is currently circling the bowl while submitting to Islamic mythology.
@@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 "I challenge you to read the Bible ,from the very beginning to the very end"
Be careful what gauntlets you throw down; reading and understanding what you behold in the bible- any of the myriad versions thereof, has created more Atheists than any other method.
"You will be mesmerized that that book contains everything you need to know about the past , present and future. "
It remains that the bible, in all of it’s manifold versions, is just an anonymously authored collection, an 'inspired" compendium, easily exploited by means of retrodiction, naiveness, and selective interpretation. And even more importantly, it is still just *nothing more than prejudiced ink stains on paper; it is only YOU who gives it special meaning.*
What IS true and what IS verifiable is that people actually wrote works of fiction thousands of years ago too- why is this undeniable fact so hard to understand and grasp?
"Jesus Christ existed in flesh and there are so many proofs of it. "
Most would agree that a person named Jesus existed- Jesus' name in Hebrew was “Yeshua” which translates to English as Joshua. It was a very common name and so is unremarkable.
Biblical archaeology... You carry the Bible in one hand and a trowel in the other...an archaeologists once said he doesn't know of anyone who didn't go looking for Noah's ark that didn't find it.
@@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 "You are correct in all of it to a point. ... Christianity has become a myth due to the bad apples that claim to be part of it."
I submit, those whom you call "bad apples" can and will apply the same label to you.
*Sapient Wisdom* Native Americans have a saying; if dogs and horses could draw their gods, their gods would look like dogs and horses.
And religion is stupid ~
@@aluzbrilhounaescuridao9486 Rest assured ...every knee shall bend. Exciting times we are living through though.
I pray that you can catch her killer. He or she knew they would be caught with her identification
Her killer(s) is probably dead and gone by now! But glad she got her name. Such a sad story. May she RIP🙏🏽
@@francelinamommyof3204, she would be 62 today and her killer (or killers) could still be alive. Where were YOU on the night in question. . . ?!! ... jus kiddin' 😉
@@francelinamommyof3204
Hey, somebody around her age would be 60ish. The average life expectancy in the US is 75ish. Let's make sure he spends his final years in prison ... where he belongs.
I read an article stating that a woman in Ohio was caught using her ID a month after she went missing. I don't why connections weren't made. I guess because she was missing from Las Vegas and her unidentified body was found in Oklahoma. Surely they should look for this woman if she's still alive. Obviously the murderer.
@@factsoverfiction7826 or she.... does not have to be a man. Women kill too.
Glad they solved the ID on her. So nice to see a press conference that doesn’t have a dozen people behind the speaker just for a photo op.
phenomenal work now who killed her ?
Its almost always the boyfriend!
Nevada's a long way from Oklahoma. My bet would be on someone who could cross a lot of state lines without being seen as suspicious. Maybe a truck driver? Who knows, but I pray they find the bastard who did it soon.
The butler
@@duanekent2656 .... with the candlestick.
@@PatrickWagz
In the library.
RIP Tamara 💕
As a proud U.S. NAVY veteran I salute you.
Find the killer
There is a very high probability the killer is dead.
Sadly her body was found same year her family reported her missing😔.... Heartbreaking story... I pray they are together now, May they RIP 🙏🏽 Amen
Thank British Scientists for this break through test in the 1980’s.
Described in The Blooding by Joseph Wambaugh
Thank you, British Scientists!
Amen to that.
The British, is America's best ally.
Think again....What country burned our White House?
Finally got a her name back... good job guys ... hopefully the other does also get theirs someday 🙂
DNA technology is certainly a mixed blessing
Perseverance! We can do this together! Thank you for all the hard work you've put in, all of you!!
💜 RIP Tamara... Incredible how they found her on her bday.
I hope she has friends that are still alive.
Good thinking
41 years ago - her murderer is surely over 60 - if not 70. Still hope they get caught !!!
May my military sister now rest in peace now back with her family!!
Thank you both and all our Military for your service and sacrifices. I am SOOO grateful and proud of you! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Same... grateful my sister in arms has been identified. Such a shame that her immediate family had passed without knowing what became of her. May they all rest in eternal peace!!
Congratulations to you all for such a professional job in finding her identity. The lime lady is not a flattering name to be known as. 👍🏻❤️
They found her on her 21st birthday. I feel like someone just kicked me in the gut.
I can’t help thinking that her killer worked so hard to steal her identity for a reason. Now that she has a name her killer will be close by.
"I actually have a few people to talk to.". Glorious. 🙂
I want to know the rest of the story!!!!!
IKR
They don't know wat happened 🥺
I'm glad RUclips recommended this on Memorial day weekend
RIP 🇺🇸
Tamara Lee Tigard
Ms. Fitzpatrick is the BEST!! she has helped so many people.
Thank you for bringing our Sister Home may she RIP. May God Bless all of your team with many more homecomings.
Bless this man..so caring..dedicated..& emotionally affected. What would he have given to be able to save young Tamera!!
She was in the military and they couldn't find out????
Once you are discharged, they don't give a hoot in hell where you go as long as you are out of their hair.
Warm Presentation , the way he included the whole team.
I think many of us want to say thank you to this man who obviously truly cares ❤ for giving Tamara her identity back.
Well let's hope it doesn't take another 40 years to catch her killer let's get this person or persons off the streets. It could very well end up finding out that the killer or killers of this could already be deceased but let's not hope that they need to pay for what they did to her. Rest easy beautiful 💖💖❤️❤️🙏🙏 Angel. I would also like to thank you for your service to our military.
Tamera should have a memorial and a street named after her. Thank you for your service Tamera, RIP
This is why dna is so important. Everyone deserves to be identified. Hopefully they will be able to find people still alive who know her and help lead to finding her killers!
Which is why it is a shame that law enforcement's abuse of such information is keeping people from opting in to these data bases.
The identity thief used Tamara's name/identity so should be able to be traced if she worked somewhere under that name or bought a car/house etc, used a doctor, had a bank account, these should be checked for addresses over the years in order to find her. She should be a suspect or person of interest at least.
Even better if they got any of the murderers DNA that can also be used to family out the murderer or match to a suspect
That long ago it would be pretty hard to follow a paper trail, and impossible now. Besides, the killer probably didn't use her name for long, making that trail go cold.
@@howardsmith9342 What you say could be true, but it's still worth trying.
@@kat2270 I agree, it needs to be tried, but after so much time I have little hope.
@@howardsmith9342 Not true. SS#s have been tracked by the IRS for employer and employee tax liability for decades.
"Bob" seems like a "good egg", as they use to say. And those that worked with him seem very efficient
Yes, he does. Haven't heard that expression for years. Thank you for that.
God Knows... You Will Meet GOD!♥️
Thank you for your service beautiful Ms. Tamara...such a long time has passed but you have been identified RIP💙 its not over your killer if that evil hasnt already met his maker will be caught and punished accordingly
So glad she is found. Was anyone looking for her?
No matter how smart killers think they are, they're no match for a team like the one who searched for Tamara's identity. It's incredible the number of hours, months, years and decades these investigators are willing to invest in order to identify these unfortunate folk who are killed and discarded like garbage. It's just very sad that Tamara had no living relatives to be returned home to.
Well, let's see the photo! One of us might be able to identify her!!
Exactly.
@Chris Tombs He said he didn't know who she was. Are you confused?
All we're given in life is our name, I'm grateful to this man and the others who gave her name back in death.
This gentleman actually cares about his cases and their peripheral parties. God be with he and them all? Amen.
Rest in Peace Tamara, thank God for this Man and his contacts. Now you are known and hopefully can rest. Thank you to all who worked to solve her identity. And Tamara, THANK YOU for your service. You are not forgotten.
Thank you Captain Green and all involved with Tamera’s identification, God bless you all!
Bravo! Good People never gave up. Technology sometimes is great 👍
Great work. You can tell how emotional this case has been and is to him.
*Law enforcement had prior contact with a lady who WAS USING Tamera's IDENTIFICATION?*
And have a picture of said lady??! That's someone who should be questioned, release her photo! There's been no further developments, maybe identifying the lady in the photo will speed up the process of who killed Ms. Tamera.
May she rest in peace now 💖
Yes Indeed, but that might take some real policework. ...
She was so beautiful. I feel so sorry for her and her loved ones🙏
Thank you so much for bringing Tamaras case to light and giving her rest. I hope justice is served. And Tamara: thank you for your service to our country.
Wow, this is a wonderful breakthrough. Congratulations to them in getting her identity worked out. I hope that now the killer(s) can be tracked down and brought to justice.
Congratulations and thank you for your perseverance to the detective and all those who helped. I wish you good fortune and good will n your further attempts to bring justice to this case.
holy shit I'd never thought this case would be solved
It isn't solved. She just has her name back.
@Chris Tombs The identity was solved .Not the murder . Very sad story.
It isn't solved 'til the killer is caught.
The case wasn't solve you idiot only her identity. SMH.
It always impresses me to see a man in an authority position react the way this Captain does. The pain and frustration of the hopeless investigation, the unreserved pride and satisfaction when he presents the women who stepped in when the new methods became available.
Not a hint of resentment for "being upstaged", and not a hint of patriarchal claiming of either their achievements or their bodies. It feels strange to praise someone for being decent, but in the world we live in it's sadly relevant to do so.
Someone said that he had a father's concern, and he does. Both for the victim and for his colleagues in the investigation.
People were like this and are passing the torch to the people now in charge. Hope their example of conduct doesn't fade away.
Que triste que su familia haya fallecido sin saber que pasó con su hija, pero que bueno que la pudieron reconocer después de tantos años! Rest In Peace, Tamara.🥺💜
Just finished a Robin Cook novel that dealt with this very topic: genetic genealogy.
How sad she was found on her 21st birthday. Born 18 April 1959, found 18 April 1980.
So similar to a case in Lehigh Valley Pennsylvania in December 1976. They're still trying to identify that Jane Doe. So sad.
If I understand, the woman in Ohio referred to near the end of the video was using the victim's ID and that was how the original Las Vegas missing persons case came to be closed? If so, that is just another horrible layer to this mystery. But maybe a solid lead for the cold case unit to follow.
Rest in love Tamara
This was January 2020. Any progress? The killer may still be alive. Anyone know?
This is extraordinary. With all that we can complain about 'how intrusive technology can be at times"...look at what was accomplished! This young woman is at last - identified. Perhaps justice will be served. But she is known, no longer a Jane Doe 'Lime Lady." Kudos to all the people who worked on this.
Those complaints should be addressed, for example, control and permanent record of who accessed data, due long history of abuse by law enforcement. But with such simple measures, DNA data & surveillance cameras are a great tool.
I don’t know this case or this gentleman, but his angst infused into me and I cried... god I’m getting really sick of this experiment called humanity... if it weren’t for my dogs I’d check out.
This cop is so genuine and showed such respect for this precious woman. Thank you to all who serve including fire fighters, first responders, and front line workers thank you.
God bless Capt Green and the DNA* Doe Project. The world needs more people like this. I wish I could become active with *DDP to help bring answers for families searching for an answer on their missing loved ones💟
*DNA Doe Project
@@xxyy1318 my mistake *fixed it*
Amazing!!!! Excellent work from everyone involved. This is police work at its best. As advancements in forensic science are made dedicated cops are sometimes able to bring at least some kind of resolution to the case. In this case the doer(s) may already be dead, but at least Tamera gets a proper send off, if by no one else the cops who poured heart and soul into identifying her. Well done folks. RIP to Tamera.
"It's not over" - I hope they are able to solve this horrible case
What a dedication to identify and maybe solve it. The way he pronounced her name. So tender and emotional. Also a humble man. Named all that have work on the case.
Magnificent effort to give this victim back her name & identity. Bravo to all involved. RIP Tamara.
How awful. None of her family is alive, except for fairly distant relatives. However, at least she is identified.
Strange that none of her family is alive. I'm ten years older than she was, enough to be a sibling, and I'm stil, going strong. The parents I can understand, but there was some bad luck and early demise in the family.
Her killer could still be alive, but would be elderly.
I love the fact their are Killers watching this and some will get caught. Just makes me smile!
If she was well preserved, they could have tried fingerprints. As a veteran, hers would have been on file.
No, she was dumped in Lime which prevented identification that way.
@@nancyoffenhiser4916 Yes, there was lime. Which, as is clearly stated, had the effect of preserving the body. Hence me wondering if that included her fingers.
Good job, DNA DOE project.
Must have been someone known to victim
this is very difficult to listen to....I remember Las Vegas in 1980....and I am sick and very that someone who was around there and may have done this and was never caught or convicted for this horrific crime....Thank you for your service, Tamara Lee....you were a strong and courageous and beautiful woman ...RIP
Who in the heck sketches a picture like that?
From her remains and she looks familiar to the times for me.
Her face had been eaten away by the lime. What do you expect them to draw?
@@FFM0594
Dont be weird. Its unusual to sketch a pic of the dead exactly the way they find them.
And the killer could also be dead after all those years. But att least she got back her real name beside Jane Doe.
It's heartbreaking that her entire immediate family passed not ever knowing what happened to her. Even sadder the sick perp got away with it this far. You can see how much pain this caused this man & him dedicating so much of his life to her is phenomenal. God bless him & all others involved.
She was a woman serving in the army in 1980. That's a male-dominated environment with a bad reputation for sexual misconduct and being hostile towards servicewomen. I'd look to those she served with as potential suspects.
It is amazing what science can do! Now that the victim has been identified, her soul can finally rest in peace. Thank you for your service.
The cop cared more about the child than it appears the family did. He didn’t stop searching for baby Jane Doe for 38 years.
Thank you, Tamara. RIP.♥️
If someone tried to wipe the identifying features from the victim, it seems it would be because the victim could be linked to the killer.
Or so they would have trouble identifying her. Once a victim is identified, the homicide investigation can begin. There is a good chance, though, that the killer is dead now.
@@MrTruckerf so they will not even start a homicide investigation until the victim is identified even if it is obvious they were murdered?
@@JennWest-Liberty Not true, Jenn. But without a name, you can't trace the history of the victim.
Im so glad she got her name back .My question is how in the world did Tamara end up in Oklahoma from Las Vegas?
Interstate 40 ... driving east for 1,000 miles. Please search "Las Vegas NV to Jones Oklahoma". Disturbing.
@@factsoverfiction7826 I'm from Oklahoma and think where they found her is in a really remote area, so wonder if this person is from Oklahoma or got a really good knowledge of this area.
@@Lindseyjones6422
That makes sense. Hard to believe the 'missing person' alert was dropped just b/c another woman was using her ID. Would think they'd ask the family to confirm.
They just found a name of a 2 year old toddler that was found in the river 38 years ago.I think it's never too late someone still worries about a missing friend or telative.i have been searching fit a childhood friend of mine.