Inside an operating F3

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • (NOTE: Turn on closed captioning for subtitles- audio can be hard to hear)
    The Anthracite RR and Historical Society owns and operates a 1948 F3, seen here when it was painted in CNJ colors, residing in Jim Thorpe, PA. in 2009.
    ARRHS member Carl shows us around the cab and engine room of the ex- Bangor and Aroostock unit as he performs periodic maintenance.
    This unit, and its sister were moved to Steamtown in Scranton, PA, in 2010 and are now in the DL&W paint scheme.
    #emd #emdf3 #CNJ #cabride #locomotive

Комментарии • 318

  • @ianspeckmaier9565
    @ianspeckmaier9565 2 года назад +72

    "You ever been in one of these when it goes into emergency?" -Slams it into emergency. lmao love it

  • @johnjp5883
    @johnjp5883 6 лет назад +5

    I like when he said about 'a dope in a car pulling in front of him'

  • @thiagomatarazzo6251
    @thiagomatarazzo6251 11 лет назад

    CHEERS FOR THE ENGINEER!! NICE WORDS

  • @NorthernMaineProductions
    @NorthernMaineProductions 12 лет назад +2

    very nice man i'v always been curious about these old B.A.R. f3's i grew up near the old oakfield me. yard of the bangor and aroostook i used to see these old loco's in service there in the early 80's glad to see they were refurbished again in 2010 they look awsome in the new paint scheme i heard these units were upgraded to the 647 is that true or do they still have 567's in them

  • @bobedwards7451
    @bobedwards7451 10 лет назад

    nice vid thanks

  • @roadtoad7704
    @roadtoad7704 4 года назад +4

    4:50 Gauges? You got gauges?! Watch this, newbie 😎

  • @Beltfedshooters
    @Beltfedshooters 4 года назад +21

    Legend has it, this guy is still pulling all of the levers back and forth.

  • @thatbeardedsoapguy5082
    @thatbeardedsoapguy5082 8 лет назад +25

    finally a video where i learn something about diesel engines.

  • @thinkablebaileylim6168
    @thinkablebaileylim6168 3 года назад +14

    At least they preserve some things, like this here F3
    PLEASE DO NOT SCRAP

  • @MrNonaste
    @MrNonaste 9 лет назад +33

    There's an old engineer who knows his stuff. Thanks for this awesome video.

  • @meme-xn6wr
    @meme-xn6wr 3 года назад +19

    They better not scrap more beautiful F3’s, true American power

  • @MRTLEW01
    @MRTLEW01 2 года назад +12

    I bet a person can learn alot from that old man!

  • @davidpoor8638
    @davidpoor8638 2 года назад +10

    Spent many hours in that old girl on both sides of the cab when we had it as our #46! She was a good running unit once you learned it's little quirks. We all thought when it left it would be scrapped. Very happy to see and hear it run again!!!!

  • @Mountchoirboy
    @Mountchoirboy 9 лет назад +22

    my dad used to take us to the Tremont station in the Bronx and we'd watch the F3's, Mu's and electric locos-they seemed like monsters and was quite the thrill. Never lost my love of trains

    • @agentorange153
      @agentorange153 7 лет назад +1

      Same here, except that in my case the station was Nagatino (on the Pavelets line out of Moscow)! BTW, on that line all of the passenger trains are electric (R2 EMUs for the commuter trains, Czech-4 electric locos for the expresses); the freight trains are mostly diesel, though -- mostly Erie-builts and Alco RS3s (oh man, you'd have to see them to believe how much smoke those Alcos put out!), but not a single EMD unit to be seen.

  • @SirDeanosity
    @SirDeanosity 9 лет назад +16

    The sound of that engine is like a lullaby.

  • @nachtjager77
    @nachtjager77 7 лет назад +10

    I didn't hear or understand most of anything he said... nice loco though.

  • @KUPHSER
    @KUPHSER 4 года назад +9

    yea fuck it... locos are cooler than boats. there, i said it

  • @davesnothereman7250
    @davesnothereman7250 4 года назад +11

    Would be neat to see GE, EMD etc....to do a modern remake of this....beautiful design.

    • @calcutt4
      @calcutt4 3 года назад

      Between 1970 and 1972 Clyde Engineering (an Australian company that held a EMD license) made the CL class which was last of this type to be built

  • @dudehere340
    @dudehere340 4 года назад +10

    Some dope runs in front of me with his car, pssssssssst! This guy is hilarious 😂

  • @trainmaster0217
    @trainmaster0217 2 года назад +8

    There will be a test on what you learned in the morning on how to operate an F3

  • @Hater-cv2zi
    @Hater-cv2zi 2 года назад +8

    Don't ask a man: his salary
    Don't ask a women: her haircut
    Don't ask why it's Trains and rail yard simulator: engine sound

    • @hukrfainted8296
      @hukrfainted8296 2 года назад +1

      Yup,I noticed that too... Now was that added to this video, or is that in fact the sound of that engine, and what the developers used for every locomotives sound in that game.

  • @The_DuMont_Network
    @The_DuMont_Network 2 года назад +7

    FINALLY! An explanation of the bail on the engine brake. Thanks!

  • @dmorgan28
    @dmorgan28 Год назад +7

    Great video. I used to run these F3 locomotives. I also like running SD 9’s and SD 45’s. I really enjoyed being an engineer. It was good to see your video. It brought back lots of memories. Thanks 👍❤️

  • @LeonAllanDavis
    @LeonAllanDavis 6 лет назад +10

    The first thing one notices is the lack of a steering wheel...
    Still, it probably handles pretty good. Corners like it's on rails...

    • @johntapp9670
      @johntapp9670 5 лет назад +1

      Actually, yes. The flanged wheels keep the entire train on the track. There were steam locomotives that had a huge valve handle where a steering wheel would be. An engineer with a very weird since of humor once loved to pretend he was "driving." One time, they were going on a winding stretch of track, and he turned to the brakeman and said, "Hey, Brakey, could you take the wheel while I go to the coal pile?" That poor brakeman was sweating blood "driving" the train over all that winding railroad until the engineer got back.

  • @drykat435
    @drykat435 6 лет назад +11

    Man I’m getting into the American trains. They are the coolest.

  • @rickvia8435
    @rickvia8435 5 лет назад +12

    Diesel Electric Locos are awesome...

  • @KCDash4400cw
    @KCDash4400cw 2 года назад +11

    Man you gotta love those old f units

  • @stainless0521
    @stainless0521 9 лет назад +13

    I suppose you couldn't put a mic on the guy - or put subtitles...

    • @TrainsByJon
      @TrainsByJon  8 лет назад +1

      +stainless0521 I may re-edit this video. Can't help the sound much unfortunately, but I like the idea of subtitles.

    • @donhayward9825
      @donhayward9825 7 лет назад +1

      Great video. I'm really trying to find out how the "dead man's switch" worked on these old units...an ALCO (MLW) S-1 if possible. I'm researching for a story where an S-1 (or an RS-2 or 3) is sent off driverless. Did they use the constant pressure or intermittent tap, and if the latter, what would the max time be before the auto braking kicked in? Thanks again for the video.

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 4 года назад +10

    There you go! Back from a time of EVERYTHING on the planet being American made. We must go back to that idea. Very cool tour. I've never been around an F unit but ran plenty of GPs, SDs and SWs. Love the old EMD.

  • @adamant8235
    @adamant8235 3 года назад +7

    How much shard has that guy smoked before that video

  • @intuitive7274
    @intuitive7274 2 года назад +8

    Nothing is better than a streamliner

  • @johntapp9670
    @johntapp9670 5 лет назад +7

    I've always loved trains. They're in my blood. I used to watch them all day run past my backyard as a baby in El Paso, Texas. Years later, I drove a miniature passenger train (an F-styled locomotive too), and hauled I don't know how many passengers around the track in eight years. Even had the complete outfit, complete with the engineer's cap.

  • @oldwarrant4
    @oldwarrant4 8 лет назад +8

    One thing he got wrong is on the automatic brake valve, the position all the way over to the left is Full Release, it allows an extra amount of charging the train line. The traction motors go from Series to Paralell to parallel shunt on an EMD. I cut my teeth on these engines on the BN.

    • @roycefaggotter6860
      @roycefaggotter6860 7 лет назад +3

      You are both confused with your terminology and operation, fully left is full release, which gives full recharge of train brake, not to confuse that with locomotive brakes, which is also give full release to the left, so both handles are in full release to the left which releases all brakes on trucks and fully recharges auxiliary reservoirs on the trucks, so in effect that is the running position, first position to your right on the train brake gives minimum reduction, 7 lbs if i remember correctly which gives initial application of brakes on all trucks, it is at this point the locomotive driver in (Australian terms) holds the independent brake in full release to stop engine brakes coming on, you can then continue to the right to make further reduction up to a maximum of 25 lb on the train brakes, to give further braking effect, to apply truck brakes harder, or fully right, which goes to emergency, venting all air from train pipe, as fast as possible, for emergency stopping. 26 L is the same operation, excepts you hold the independent brake lever down. instead of pushing it fully to the left. I agree with you on the series to parallel shunting with the traction motors. 24 years driving trains in S.A.

  • @viewfromthehillswift6979
    @viewfromthehillswift6979 3 года назад +5

    A very long time ago I was a brakeman on the NP out of Missoula, MT. They still ran some F3s and they were my favorite engines.

    • @TrainsByJon
      @TrainsByJon  3 года назад

      Why did you like the F3's so much? Were they much different than later Fs?

  • @daveshangar6820
    @daveshangar6820 7 лет назад +6

    This is so cool. ive flown airplanes and driven all kinds of trucks but I have never operated a locomotive.

  • @ALSomthin
    @ALSomthin 2 года назад +6

    These are my favorite locomotives. They have roll down windows and wing windows. I always wanted to take a ride in one.

  • @papabits5721
    @papabits5721 4 года назад +8

    I love the look of them

  • @johnireland6301
    @johnireland6301 3 года назад +6

    Lots of information. This guy knows what he is doing.

  • @christopherdibble5872
    @christopherdibble5872 Год назад +7

    The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954!

    • @pickle4034
      @pickle4034 Год назад +3

      Of course they do bro.

    • @stevenasante8662
      @stevenasante8662 Год назад +1

      They do, but not as much

    • @trainlover123trainsrock
      @trainlover123trainsrock Год назад +3

      @@stevenasante8662I see it all the time.

    • @buzzytrains9037
      @buzzytrains9037 5 месяцев назад

      @@stevenasante8662 they do it every time they see you wave at them

    • @jaredkelly930
      @jaredkelly930 4 месяца назад

      I wave at people from my train all the time, the windows are so tinted that you probably can’t see me. And with reliable A/C, there’s no reason for me to really run with the windows open.

  • @AlarakTheHighLord
    @AlarakTheHighLord 6 лет назад +9

    The coolest looking locomotive ever made besides the dash-9

    • @rickygarcia7400
      @rickygarcia7400 6 лет назад +1

      operation unknown GP30s are the coolest locking along with sd70ace.

    • @johntapp9670
      @johntapp9670 5 лет назад +3

      In the realm of EMD, hands down Union Pacific's "Centennials," the DDA40X MACHINES.

  • @silverskyscraper1179
    @silverskyscraper1179 6 лет назад +8

    As a kid the F3 was my favorite followed by its sister the FL9 👍🏾

    • @jeffreymcfadden9403
      @jeffreymcfadden9403 4 года назад

      you must be old to have seen F3s.
      I was a teenager in 1978 when we went to Illinois and Mn and we saw the absolute end of the F3.
      2 F3s(GMO and ICG) at Bloominton,Il. and an FP7 leading an F3B in twin cities.
      these 3 were the only F3s I ever saw,,,,,(running),,,,,,the good old days!

  • @VauxhallViva1975
    @VauxhallViva1975 6 лет назад +6

    Surely the most beautiful sounding loco ever. I could go to sleep listening to one of these things idling. They sound fantastic......

  • @adamdonnelly3912
    @adamdonnelly3912 4 года назад +6

    my brain during a test: 1:27

  • @BudTheDrummer
    @BudTheDrummer 3 года назад +4

    The NY,NH&H RR used EMD FL9's, specially built. F=1400hp, L9=longer by 9 feet for the addition of a steam boiler to heat the coaches and a retractable shoe on the side for running on 3rd rail power in and out of NY where exhaust smoke was prohibited. They had a melodious 3 chime Hancock air chime horn and a distinctive kind of tone from the roots blower, very unlike the whine of a turbo. The 567 prime mover had a cadic rhythm with a faster, smoother beat than that of a chugging Alco. They were the varnish through the 80's and a few are still in service at Museums.

    • @SOU6900
      @SOU6900 Год назад

      FL9s were 1,750-1,800 horsepower.

  • @TheMaineSurveyor
    @TheMaineSurveyor 10 лет назад +4

    Thanks for showing a piece of Bangor & Aroostook history. I grew up in Maine and I enjoy seeing anything that has to do with Maine Railroads.

  • @therealdeal6846
    @therealdeal6846 3 года назад +5

    That engine just purrs wonder can I get that to fall asleep at night??

    • @bill605able
      @bill605able 2 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/2l2plM_V6lM/видео.html

  • @obsoleteprofessor2034
    @obsoleteprofessor2034 7 лет назад +2

    I lived on the West Side of the Central Valley, CA. During cantaloupe season the packing houses would load up melons all night long to the refrigerated cars. The entire town would rumble when the engines would shuttle and make up cars. When an engine would couple up you could hear the slack in the couplers thump all down the line. The engine would be rolling while the last cars would stand still while the couplers would slack in the direction of pull and you would hear the clunk again as the engine would pull away.

  • @emdman1959
    @emdman1959 7 лет назад +3

    That was a nice video, I love the older EMD locomotives unfortunately the oldest I have run was a GP38 from the mid 60's.

    • @calcutt4
      @calcutt4 3 года назад

      You should come to Australia! In Melbourne it's common to see Clyde - EMD locos from the 1950s and 60s in revenue service

  • @ConrailJon
    @ConrailJon 11 лет назад +1

    You guys know at 1:12 he's just bailing off the engine brakes, right? You do that when you apply the train brakes to avoid giving the engine flat spots.

  • @cofeebeing
    @cofeebeing 7 лет назад +2

    A lot going on in the cab. Skilled work. That's probably only one component of what it takes to be an train engineer

  • @BossSpringsteen69
    @BossSpringsteen69 6 лет назад +5

    Now this is more my style. It has character.

  • @an_asian_guy
    @an_asian_guy 4 года назад +8

    This is the best learning about trains video I ever have

    • @mgapryt4930
      @mgapryt4930 3 года назад +1

      Hey its u again canadian ball

    • @an_asian_guy
      @an_asian_guy 3 года назад

      @@mgapryt4930 hello again I subscribe to you now

    • @an_asian_guy
      @an_asian_guy 3 года назад

      @@mgapryt4930 nice videos

    • @mgapryt4930
      @mgapryt4930 3 года назад +1

      @@an_asian_guy thx

    • @an_asian_guy
      @an_asian_guy 3 года назад +1

      @@mgapryt4930 your welcome btw nice videos✌😁

  • @alcopower5710
    @alcopower5710 3 года назад +5

    Excellent video 👍

  • @duggydugg3937
    @duggydugg3937 4 года назад +6

    awesome engine....

  • @jamielacourse7578
    @jamielacourse7578 2 года назад +6

    Those things come with a crapper? ( well I don't know )

    • @Ethan_Odom
      @Ethan_Odom 2 года назад

      You do not see the door but it is in the cab at the front middle of cab. The bathroom door is there.

    • @Republic3D
      @Republic3D 2 года назад +1

      @@Ethan_Odom Were these locomotives operated by one person, or multiple crew? In case you need the crapper in the middle of a journey?

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work 2 года назад +1

      @@Republic3D American Trains still have two Men on the Locomotive, Engineer and Conductor. Europe usually is Driver only, but the Locomotives don't have a Bathroom either as Freight Trains here stop frequently too.

    • @Republic3D
      @Republic3D 2 года назад

      @@Genius_at_Work What about passenger trains, would the locomotive driver wait until next stop and then go quickly to the passenger toilet and then return for the next leg? I know, probably stupid questions but I'm curious. :)

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work 2 года назад +1

      @@Republic3D Usually yes. But they don't stay on a Train longer than 3-4 Hours before changing to one in the opposite Direction. They must know their Stretch of Track inside out, hence they don't drive too long.

  • @burtfitzgerald2935
    @burtfitzgerald2935 3 года назад +3

    I remember these wagon tops very well I was a fireman on the B&O in 1967 and we had a lot of these around in fact GE came out with A NEW WIDE BODY that the railroads use today !!

    • @lie-berry
      @lie-berry 3 года назад

      You have some great videos on your channel. Thank you for those, I've enjoyed watching them.

  • @christopherdibble5872
    @christopherdibble5872 2 года назад +7

    The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did BACK in 1954.

  • @mojostevo
    @mojostevo 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the walk-through Jim!

  • @edithkane1978
    @edithkane1978 3 года назад +4

    That is one awesome rolling idle!

  • @brianfalzon6739
    @brianfalzon6739 Год назад +4

    What’s the future for these CNJ F Units?

    • @KaijuForceNeo
      @KaijuForceNeo Год назад +4

      Historical purposes, for the most part.

  • @andrewhurricane
    @andrewhurricane 11 лет назад +1

    Can someone explain the use of the selector handle?

  • @calcutt4
    @calcutt4 3 года назад +2

    This reminds me of a tour I got of an operating Victorian Railways S class S 313 at Steamrail open day 2016. I got to throttle the engine up (with the reverser in neutral of course) and then went through the engine room.

  • @WatDaMattaForYou
    @WatDaMattaForYou 4 года назад +4

    Got all that?

  • @PositionLight
    @PositionLight 12 лет назад

    I remember when those F-3's were at Winslow Jct in South Jersey along with a similarly painted B Unit. I am not sure why they got separated, but its a damn shame that the the two A's got repainted because they would have been nice to see them run as an A-B-A set.

  • @williamporche4799
    @williamporche4799 Год назад +5

    Listening to him explain and put words that is good. Because wherever i watch silver streak, i will always make sure to watch the first part of it. After the conductor says ALL ABOARD. The engineer blows the horn. Then he starts working everthing

  • @oldcountry55
    @oldcountry55 9 лет назад +2

    I remember watching these units as a kid when they were with the Bangor and Aroostook in northern Maine.

  • @lande18072
    @lande18072 9 лет назад +2

    Hey I remember Craig, he's friends with my grandfather, when I was a kid in 2009 I went out and "helped" them in Scranton with painting and what not, I got to notch up the engine a little and of course blow the horn. Something I will never forget!

  • @hannemeistersmodellbau2840
    @hannemeistersmodellbau2840 6 лет назад +3

    i need more from this Engine !!!!I love it !!! Power ,Sound.Dieselsound .

  • @iannickCZ
    @iannickCZ 7 лет назад +2

    I was expecting also some ride...

  • @pilsudski36
    @pilsudski36 8 лет назад +1

    Wow....Cabooses and F-3's - who ask for more?

  • @CaptainTransit
    @CaptainTransit 6 лет назад +4

    I could listen to this thing purr all day.

    • @johntapp9670
      @johntapp9670 5 лет назад

      That's an EMD 567 engine--567 cid PER CYLINDER. About 9,072 for the whole thing. Not exactly a Duramax or a Powerstroke, is it?

  • @w.maximilliandejohnsonbour725
    @w.maximilliandejohnsonbour725 4 года назад +4

    Nice...!!!!!.

  • @stanr8946
    @stanr8946 2 года назад +3

    Phase I Chicken Wire F3s...

  • @ACLTony
    @ACLTony Год назад +2

    Impressive information! Very kind gentleman.

  • @Hagfan789
    @Hagfan789 6 лет назад +2

    Good video.. I would really love to hear what this fella has to say about this train. I'll bet he has lots of stories to tell.

  • @hunterriley9904
    @hunterriley9904 4 года назад +2

    Cool video love the F units especially the war bonnet santa fe's that red and silver pops 😎

  • @semiprofessional8470
    @semiprofessional8470 4 года назад +3

    Something is missing. Right the steering wheel.

  • @GP9railfan
    @GP9railfan 12 лет назад

    @rockinrollfan37 Yes, the compliment was directed towards the cameraman, & the engineer bud. I must've been half asleep & not realizing, when I typed that reply to you. LOL :D

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 9 лет назад +1

    Great video! Especially liked the part about the explanation of the brake and the manual transitioning. Most of that is lost with the new engines, it's still nice to know what's going on behind the curtain.
    Thank you!

  • @diesellocomotivefan5400
    @diesellocomotivefan5400 6 лет назад +3

    70 years of service, fantastic.

  • @BossSpringsteen69
    @BossSpringsteen69 10 лет назад +1

    Drool factor F unit. The work that was involved operating these units.

  • @n.e.barton1299
    @n.e.barton1299 6 лет назад +3

    F3s are so cool. Oh, if I win the lottery (powerball), I want to buy one and take it around the US , Mexivo, and Canada.

  • @NorthernMaineProductions
    @NorthernMaineProductions 12 лет назад

    @GP9railfan yea i defenatly liked the last variation of the "tricolor" scheme the best they had some bad looking variations of black red and gray and i think even gold if im not mistaken in like 1973, i saw a pic of ol 49 fresh out of the rebuild shop in '73 that was when she was renumbered from47 to 49 and i belive it had an ugly color of gold on it to! but i can't seem to find that pic at the moment

  • @pumi63
    @pumi63 2 года назад +3

    Casey Jones anyone ?

  • @bradstrains
    @bradstrains 11 лет назад

    F-3's have a EMD 567BV16 engine that is supercharged and they are rated at 1,500 HP per unit.

  • @NorthernMaineProductions
    @NorthernMaineProductions 12 лет назад

    @GP9railfan i would have to agree somewhat im kind of partial to the white, blue and yellow scheme of the 1950's early 60's that scheme looked good , Bl2 557 is close to that but not exact

  • @jasonpetersrailadventures
    @jasonpetersrailadventures Год назад +3

    Cool

  • @stephenjones8928
    @stephenjones8928 8 лет назад +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for posting!

  • @ATSF1927
    @ATSF1927 11 лет назад

    I remember the old EMD F3s, I was a Locomotive Engineer on the old Baldwin Steamers in 1948 for AT&SF, later put a ton of miles on the old EMD F7s. Love the video :-)

  • @frank9240
    @frank9240 3 года назад +5

    THAT IS REALLY KOOL-ASS KIND'A STUFF.............................

  • @LE-ly1su
    @LE-ly1su 4 года назад +2

    Even through my phone that is loud

  • @timsimmk
    @timsimmk 11 лет назад

    I don't quite understand what the driver is doing at 1:12. The handle releases the brakes more quickly? Can anyone explain?

  • @NorthernMaineProductions
    @NorthernMaineProductions 12 лет назад

    @GP9railfan i just shared this with you trainsbyjon uploaded this it is an awsome job of explaining how these work though!

  • @GP9railfan
    @GP9railfan 12 лет назад

    @rockinrollfan37 Hmmm,,, I don't know. Haven't seen that one either.

  • @bbrockRailFan
    @bbrockRailFan 9 лет назад +1

    I wish they would make this cool CNJ F3 in n-scale.

  • @eight10aaronn
    @eight10aaronn 6 лет назад +2

    4:51 cool trains!!! Awesome video!

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke 8 лет назад

    Awesome videos ! :)

  • @oriolesfan61
    @oriolesfan61 3 года назад +2

    I love those things 😍

  • @mosesknows2062
    @mosesknows2062 4 года назад +1

    Awesome, very cool video...
    Thanks, Moses...

  • @DaveInBridport
    @DaveInBridport 10 лет назад +2

    Contrast the design with British Deltic - very similar.

    • @bulletz9280
      @bulletz9280 8 лет назад

      I think "very similar" is a bit of a stretch. More like passing resemblance. I'd say the f unit was aesthetically far superior.

    • @DaveInBridport
      @DaveInBridport 8 лет назад

      ok. if you squint a bit and close one eye...