General Motor's F Series of Locomotives, 1939 to 1960, Documentary.

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  • @henrivanbemmel
    @henrivanbemmel Год назад +113

    For me, these F units are the best looking locomotives ever.

    • @jamesrussell6123
      @jamesrussell6123 10 месяцев назад +2

      I think so too,but F 2 toF7 are my favorite

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 2 месяца назад

      I know the EMD units were much more mechanically reliable, but I really do think the Alco FA's and PA's were much better looking -- and when equipped with 251's, they were reliable as well.

    • @thequietstag4366
      @thequietstag4366 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lennyhendricks4628 I think both look phenomenal, especially when paired with the personality lacking locomotives we get now.

  • @anthonyiannone7618
    @anthonyiannone7618 Год назад +9

    I worked as an electrician on metro north's fleet of FL9's from 1985 to 87. During that time they were transiting from steam heat for the coaches to HEP (head end power)
    The back section of the FL9's where the steam boiler was located was gutted and a cummins 6 cylinder gen set was installed in its place. The new (at the time ) bombardier coaches used 3 phase 480v power for heating and A/C. The bombardier coaches were well lit and comfortable compared to the old pullman coaches with there axle generators for lighting power and steam heat only.

    • @hackerguitar
      @hackerguitar 5 месяцев назад

      Rode the FL9-powered trains on Metro-North for years. Very comfortable.

  • @alanpecherer5705
    @alanpecherer5705 Год назад +88

    Interesting how the FRA mandate of having the walkway around the engine for switching safety pretty much permanently changed the entire loco design to GP-style.

    • @traindude70
      @traindude70 Год назад +7

      Icc, fra didn't exist

    • @andrewmeadows2596
      @andrewmeadows2596 Год назад

      Is that why they look so ugly

    • @alan6832
      @alan6832 Год назад +1

      I wondered why they abandoned the aerodynamics, sleek look, and some forward visibility. They did bring back cab units later with the G40? but without the curved nose. I always thought they could lengthen the B units to hold either boilers or box cabs, enabling them to run independently in a pinch, which I think he said they did a few longer ones with boilers but not box cabs. they could also cram that stuff in the standard length with a shorter v8 engine and if that lacks power then just hook up another.
      I especially like those 5 axle New Haven models. though I grew up near Boston and always liked and watched out for F and E units, I can't remember ever seeing a 5 axle F unit, and I think I would have noticed.

    • @voidjavelin23
      @voidjavelin23 19 дней назад

      ​@@andrewmeadows2596 yes along with crash safety test which made todays cab being more bulkier

  • @CorvetteBob
    @CorvetteBob 11 месяцев назад +6

    The Galveston Railroad Museum has two beautiful F-units that run today, very nice to visit when going on cruise boats next door!

  • @MarcFutoran
    @MarcFutoran Месяц назад +2

    I remember the F-units running the New Haven line as I was a child growing up in Rye, NY. Our family would take the train to Grand Central. A lot of times it would be with the electrified "boxcar". But the locomotives were always more fun to see in action.

  • @billbright1755
    @billbright1755 Год назад +50

    Easily the best looking engines ever made.

    • @rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364
      @rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364 Год назад +4

      It's the curves...

    • @spookerz35
      @spookerz35 Год назад +1

      Baldwin Sharknose might be better, but obviously not as successful. F units were beautiful.

    • @texforister7023
      @texforister7023 Год назад

      @@rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364 It's Always "the curves"! Sofia Loren, Ferrari 250 GTO, Shelby Daytona Coupe, et al. 🔦✝

  • @timdodd3897
    @timdodd3897 Год назад +13

    Face it, it's a beautiful engine. A classic.

  • @thaddeusthudpucker4175
    @thaddeusthudpucker4175 Год назад +30

    Excellent video, nice summary of the history of the F units!

  • @traindude70
    @traindude70 Год назад +19

    Note the FRA did not exist at that time. The correct agency is the ICC

  • @dougmasters681
    @dougmasters681 8 месяцев назад +3

    My favorite diesels ever are the Alco Pa and The EMD F unit diesels. Most notably the Santa Fe F7s used for passenger service.
    You Sir do a fantastic job,in your history and description of these diesels. My hat is off to you! Thank you for doing such a thorough job in research and description of our great American Diesel Heritage.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!
      I appreciate the compliment!

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Год назад +59

    I had the privilege of being engineer on a 1950 EMD F-7, from 1999 to 2021. It was quite an experience.🙂🙂

    • @ytzpilot
      @ytzpilot Год назад +2

      That’s a rarity by then 😎👍

    • @viliusr.8792
      @viliusr.8792 Год назад +2

      I drive train, its ok job... 12 hour shift is fun for the first 4 hours, next 4 hours is ok, the last 4 hours are hard. Many early risings, many nights away from home, after night shift feeling like shiet :)

    • @jcheck6
      @jcheck6 Год назад

      @@viliusr.8792 Its like flying an airliner across the ocean....boring

    • @timdodd3897
      @timdodd3897 Год назад

      I bet. Lucky guy!

    • @mshum538
      @mshum538 Год назад

      @@viliusr.8792You drive train ?

  • @jeffkellyb7712
    @jeffkellyb7712 Год назад +9

    I enjoyed the video, the first of yours I have watched. I would suggest slowing down a little! I like to think about what I am hearing, and there isn’t enough time!

  • @turkfiles
    @turkfiles 11 месяцев назад +2

    Enjoyed seeing all those older EMC/EMD engines, and all of the historical info you added. Thank you!

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @briansmith8385
    @briansmith8385 Год назад +13

    Thank for the video about these locomotives. I did hear "turbo-charger" mentioned, which none of the F units had. Being two cycle engines they needed the roots blowers to function at all. The first EMDs with turbo changers added in addition to the roots blowers were the GP-20 and SD-24. Also, I heard about "increased displacement" of a new model. They all had 16 cylinders with 567 cubic inches per cylinder so they all had the same displacement. You don't see much about F units on RUclips so thanks for this presentation.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  Год назад +2

      I don't bilevel I said that the F units were turbo charged. I did, however point out that Alco PA's and Alco's 244 prime movers were.
      Thanks For watching!

    • @Steve-ct4jn
      @Steve-ct4jn Год назад +1

      Exactly as you said. It was the Alco’s.

  • @johnmedaris1
    @johnmedaris1 Год назад +3

    Great video! Speaking fast makes for concise videos that hold interest

  • @cpttankerjoe
    @cpttankerjoe 6 месяцев назад +3

    I really enjoyed the fast-paced and almost aggressive narrating style

  • @tucorameriz3538
    @tucorameriz3538 Год назад +30

    Great video but one minor correction. Dynamic brakes do not work by reversing the current as you explained but rather it works by disconnecting the traction motors in the trucks from the generator, this essentially makes the traction motors themselves generators whose output is fed into a large variable resister grid creating resistance to the wheels turning. In most modern transit systems this is further enhanced by feeding the generated power back into the overhead system instead of just turning it into heat in a resister grid. Again very nice video!

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 Год назад +1

      Spoken like a True Wikipedia

    • @brentboswell1294
      @brentboswell1294 Год назад +8

      Actually, you have to feed the traction motors "excitation current" before they can start producing braking power...it's not just a simple cut and replace 😉

    • @seabulls69
      @seabulls69 Год назад +5

      @@brentboswell1294 Thanks. I almost responded to tucorameriz3538, "Are you sure about that?". Also, as far as I know, the dynamic brake resistor grid is not a variable resistor (that would get real complicated). The amount of dynamic braking, as you said, is regulated by the amount of excitation current through the field windings of the traction motors. Which explains why there are several "notches" (throttle settings) controlling the diesel engine when it is used in dynamic braking. Gives the engineer more flexibility when coming down the variety of grades and train loads.

    • @brentboswell1294
      @brentboswell1294 Год назад +3

      @@seabulls69 I do believe that the resistors get "plumbed" differently depending on which notch you're in...I also know that EMD had two levels of dynamic braking available, standard and extended range. The Southern Pacific had extended range dynamic brakes on their locomotives, especially the Tunnel Motors, that took the brunt of the brutal mountain assignments on the Espee. I saw more than one tunnel motor with peeling paint around the dynamic brake resistor grid (from the heat) 😄

    • @craiglacey9827
      @craiglacey9827 Год назад +2

      One other minor correction: FP7 and FP9 locomotives didn’t have larger steam generators. Instead, they utilized the extra four feet for additional water tanks.

  • @georgewoodget271
    @georgewoodget271 11 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent Presentation on the history Development and usage of the F / GP Series Engines.

  • @KTnc-f4z
    @KTnc-f4z Год назад +22

    Great documentary- especially for those like myself who were too young to see F units in service

  • @David65Cope-kc6sm
    @David65Cope-kc6sm 11 месяцев назад +3

    Nicely narrated, in-depth and informative.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you kindly!

  • @danmathers141
    @danmathers141 Год назад +22

    Other than the commentary seeming somewhat rushed, It was very informative and seemed very knowledgeable. I enjoyed the video since F units were my favorite engine growing up.

    • @Pauley_in_GP
      @Pauley_in_GP Год назад +9

      My sentiments exactly! Great info, but it sounds like every pause was removed. They do have a purpose - sentences should not all run together. I have a hard time listening that fast. ;)
      I personally have always been a fan of the Warbonnet. I'm now in my 70s, and the Kato Super Chief rolls around my model rr layout.

    • @itsmeagainmargret
      @itsmeagainmargret Год назад +5

      Yeah, I had to slow the video down to .75 to take in what the narrator was saying.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism Год назад +2

      He speaks too fast.

    • @ArmpitStudios
      @ArmpitStudios Год назад

      Speaking quickly packs more information into a shorter video. I know I’d rather watch a 25-minute video than a 45-minute video. In fact, I played it at 1.25x to make it even shorter.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism Год назад +2

      @@ArmpitStudios Not everyone is a sperg and you're not saving 20 minutes by speaking fast... maybe 2-4 minutes. Concise writing and good editing is better than talking faster.

  • @terryhackenburg391
    @terryhackenburg391 4 месяца назад +2

    The F series is my all time favorite, the most beautiful ever built.

  • @jagc1969
    @jagc1969 Год назад +14

    Great video. A pleasure to watch these magnificent locomotives. Thanks for sharing.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  Год назад +3

      And thank you for watching!

  • @yukon4511
    @yukon4511 3 дня назад

    Thank you for the great video! I had no idea so many models were made. I appreciate your rapid cadence. I had no problem keeping up!

  • @crabbiboi5528
    @crabbiboi5528 6 месяцев назад +3

    Man, the older engines are just beautiful.

  • @williamthethespian
    @williamthethespian 8 месяцев назад +2

    Wow. Comprehensive, impressive, and informative. Great job.

  • @brentritchie6199
    @brentritchie6199 10 месяцев назад +2

    Brilliant explanation and documentary of these amazing machines they are just so iconic.

  • @wtstfire
    @wtstfire Год назад +6

    Good, bad or indifferent, they certainly were a very handsome locomotive.

  • @demonorca9539
    @demonorca9539 8 месяцев назад +3

    It's interesting that F-units were so popular that you can still find them in abundance around tourist railroads and some shortlines.
    Now if only modern locomotives could have the same streamlined cab style.

    • @holysirsalad
      @holysirsalad 6 месяцев назад

      Siemens Charger is streamlined but so boring. Born of simple practicality rather than from a moment of art in culture

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 11 месяцев назад +3

    Like those stream line nose locomotives

  • @rickdee67
    @rickdee67 4 месяца назад +2

    Another enjoyable video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @RonDevito
    @RonDevito 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this. 25 min went fast. Enjoyed the history of these locos. I’m from NYC, so I grew up with the FL-9’s.

  • @daviddryden8088
    @daviddryden8088 Год назад +4

    A fine documentary on what is certainly my favorite time in American RR's. Some great pictures here of probably my favorite locomotive design and a few pictures of some obscure units I don't recall seeing before as well. And speaking of pictures, lot's a neat shots of my favorite RR, which of course is, the mighty B&O. Thanks for another great video.

  • @garymatthews1280
    @garymatthews1280 Год назад +4

    Thanks for using the B&O F7 shots from Martinsburg, WV and also including the Grafton Coaling tower. There isn't much left in either place now. Good video!

  • @paulwojnar2291
    @paulwojnar2291 Год назад +6

    The Super Chiefs were one of the most beautiful locos ever.

  • @bagoistvan3182
    @bagoistvan3182 Год назад +2

    5:03 ...😌😌😌..your video brings back flashing memories of the movie RAW DEAL ( 1986 )... where in the opening's one of this locomotives pulls out from the station and one of the mobsters walks through the scenery....I just miss those ol' times of vhs ....thanx for the upload. 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺👍

  • @prestongivens3594
    @prestongivens3594 Год назад +4

    Ah, so many child-7hood memories of GP-7s and GP-9s on the C&O, but an enduring love of the E's and F's. Wonderful video, good work!

  • @raymondwelsh6028
    @raymondwelsh6028 Год назад +26

    Surprisingly in Australia when Victorian Railway’s decided in 1953 to dieselize they stepped out of the box. They decided they wanted what we call the B Class bi-directional locomotive with a Co Co wheel arraignment. Built in Sydney under license by Clyde Engineering, EMD hadn’t built one of theses before. Ground breaking was the Co Co wheel arraignment and double ended design. 26 units were ordered, first 25 , with the 567 2 stroke 16 cylinder 1500 hp diesel,final one B85 had the upgraded 645 1800 hp diesel. 12 units in the 1980’s were upgraded with 2500 hp 12 cylinder units, these they called the A Class.Surprisingly many of these B Class and A Class units are doing everyday work after 70 year, also many just doing heritage work. A testament to there sound design or perhaps maybe just penny pinching railway management.🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @nekomasteryoutube3232
      @nekomasteryoutube3232 Год назад +1

      I wonder if that design was before or after the european F-units like the NOHAB F-units with co-co trucks and dual cabs.
      ALSO I really like Australian rail stuff

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei Год назад

      ​@@nekomasteryoutube3232Yes, because its soo old....vintage trains in regular service.

    • @Tom-Lahaye
      @Tom-Lahaye Год назад +1

      @@nekomasteryoutube3232 The European Nohab and AFB locomotives were based on the Australian design, the first units would enter service around 1955. Essentially they were a B class sharing all but the body design. Railways ordered these after trials with a couple of earlier EMD designs, USATC #1818 which toured west and central Europe and G12 7707 bought by the Norwegian Railways (preserved) for testing purposes which visited the other Nordic countries.
      The body of the European model had more rounded roofs to fit the loading gauge, the roof cantrail of the B class was just out of gauge, otherwise width and height were the same.
      The European locomotives have an equally long service life, some of the Danish and Norwegian Nohab built examples still in revenue service to this day for private companies.
      I experienced the AFB locomotives of classes 52-53-54 of the Belgian state railways and 1600 of Luxemburg many times, the Belgian locomotives were in service till 2003, the Luxemburg examples ended service in 1995.
      Those were rebuilt during the '80s and '90s with new floating cabs to improve driver comfort and safety by adding an impact absorbing structure in the nose and resilient shock absorbers under the cabs.
      Later many other designs using EMD prime movers were built in Europe or imported from the US and Canada.

  • @andrewlaverghetta715
    @andrewlaverghetta715 Год назад +17

    There’s a lot of good info here, but it’s really jarring to watch and listen to, with the cuts, editing of audio, and constant tone of voice. Take a break between sections. Silence is good.

    • @paupaupaupaupau
      @paupaupaupaupau Год назад +4

      Agree. Too monotonous

    • @MrPither999
      @MrPither999 3 месяца назад +1

      It's like an old Micro Machines commercial.

  • @richardmartin7824
    @richardmartin7824 11 месяцев назад +2

    This video is simply awesome, thanks for the posting. Had an interest in the EMD loco the first time I rode on the Spirit of Progress from Melbourne to Albury NSW, ( Aust) in the early fifties.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @dogrokket
    @dogrokket Год назад +2

    Fantastic history! Thanks! I only planned to watch a few minutes, but I couldn’t stop watching 😊

  • @marcelstribling1013
    @marcelstribling1013 Год назад +3

    I operated a UP 942 E8 at the southern California railway museum

  • @mikehawk2003
    @mikehawk2003 Год назад +4

    The cash-strapped Western Pacific chose to keep its last 4 F7As in revenue service over their mainline between Stockton, CA and Milpitas, CA all the way up into the 1983 Union Pacific merger. They became well known fixtures on the San Jose Turn and were nicknamed the "Fab Four." A testament to their reliability and popularity was them being refurbished by Morrison-Knudsen in 1978 and given their first fresh coat of paint in decades. They all survive today in museums, in operating condition.

  • @JohnMakuck-is7be
    @JohnMakuck-is7be Год назад +4

    Very good appreciated good job retired CBS a.k.a f2nd generation railroad switch man.great video thanks for the memory of the covered wagons.

  • @ianisaacs2340
    @ianisaacs2340 Год назад +5

    It blows my mind thinking that the year after the last E9 was built that EMD built the SD45

  • @krystalstarrett6760
    @krystalstarrett6760 Год назад +9

    Thank you for the documentary, F series a favorite of mine. Cab looks like a B 17 bomber, those deisles always pull so well. It is a favorite on my HO railroad. 😊

    • @shereesmazik5030
      @shereesmazik5030 Год назад +2

      Thank you for pointing out the similarities between the Santa Fe Super Chief and B-17’s . I always been fascinated by both . Also big wings on birds too .

  • @wargamingrefugee9065
    @wargamingrefugee9065 Год назад +6

    Wow! This video took a lot of research. Thanks for putting in the work and sharing it with us. :-)

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  Год назад +1

      Your welcome! Thanks for watching!

  • @ronaldlynnjohnson7589
    @ronaldlynnjohnson7589 Год назад +5

    Excellent Excelant video and discription of these prime movers. I grew up riding the CN&W 400's out of Chicago and north.

  • @PharaohDeathMask
    @PharaohDeathMask Год назад +3

    A great video! Thanks for making and uploading it.

  • @clarebutterfield6927
    @clarebutterfield6927 Год назад +3

    A lot of memories! Thank you!

  • @deerinmyyard8430
    @deerinmyyard8430 Год назад +1

    1:05 There was no such railroad as Burlington Northern in the 1930s like you state.

  • @briansmith8385
    @briansmith8385 Год назад +4

    Santa Fe converted 233 F-7 to CF-7 by changing the body to something similar to a GP-7. These CF-7 are still running on short line railroads.

    • @mikehawk2003
      @mikehawk2003 Год назад

      They had a very mixed reputation, most gone by late 80's despite their GP7 counterparts soldiering on into the BNSF merger.

  • @LeslieGilpinRailways
    @LeslieGilpinRailways Год назад +20

    Burlington Northern zephyr????? Chicago Burlington & Quincy bought the Zephyr. BN didn't exist for another 40 years

    • @frederickschulkind8431
      @frederickschulkind8431 Год назад +6

      Yes, I caught that too. Terms like that and the uneven narration leads me to believe that it was produced using AI.

    • @craigsmith8128
      @craigsmith8128 Год назад

      ​@@frederickschulkind8431I'm not sure it's AI. It certainly could be, but I have a feeling the audio clips were snipped at the beginning and ends to mesh them better. It sounds like it wasn't recorded in a professional matter.
      It seems like a project they'd get you do for a school assignment or something of that nature. Passionately made but poorly researched at some points.

    • @Drewmeetsworld6969
      @Drewmeetsworld6969 11 месяцев назад

      How dense do you think we are? It was a verbal typo get over it 😤

    • @LeslieGilpinRailways
      @LeslieGilpinRailways 11 месяцев назад

      @@Drewmeetsworld6969 I'm you are welcoming to occasional viewers to your channel. I only ever comment with the best of intentions but obviously you are unable to recognise this.

  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl513 Год назад +9

    While I understand this is a video about railroad engines and prime movers, you didn't mention the use of GM Cleveland 16-248 and 16-278A V-type powerplants in Gato and Balao Class submarines. [Also some boats were equipped with Fairbanks-Morse 38D 8-1/8 engines.]
    The diversion of this GM/EMD and FM machinery by the War Production Board to the Navy also hampered the proliferation of diesel power to the railroad industry until postwar.

  • @brentboswell1294
    @brentboswell1294 Год назад +25

    The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe had no problems with heating passenger trains over long distances with their F units. The A units carried water tanks in the boiler space at the rear of the carbody, and the B units were the only ones that had steam generators 😊 Should probably note that the reason why they preferred F units as power on their premier trains is because a cut of F units could pull the Super Chief and El Capitan up Raton Pass in New Mexico and Cajon Pass in California without helpers. E units were terrible in this regard, as they were designed for high speed running, and the F units had more tractive effort per axle (especially at lower speeds like you'd encounter in helper districts) than the E units. The A1A wheel arrangement in the E's was partially to blame.

    • @trainliker100
      @trainliker100 Год назад +4

      For those who may not know the truck designation: A1A means the three axles are "Powered - Idler - Powered". Since the E unit had two trucks, the complete designation is "A1A-A1A". Most locomotives we see today with 6-wheel trucks have all axles powered and are designated "C-C". "C" meaning "3". (North American notations.)

    • @brentboswell1294
      @brentboswell1294 Год назад

      @@trainliker100 although GE built a custom order of Evo locomotives for the BNSF recently that look exactly like any other Evo series, except that they have the A1A-A1A power arrangement. I think that the idea is that the units were designed for high speed intermodal service (similar to the ATSF "Superfleet" GP60M's and Dash 8-40BW's), however because of the weight constraints of modern locomotives, they have to maintain an idler axle...no more B trucks 🙁

    • @trainliker100
      @trainliker100 Год назад +2

      @@brentboswell1294 I'll bet they have better "riding qualities", too. Although perhaps not a goal, but if true something I'm sure crews appreciate.

    • @johnandrus3901
      @johnandrus3901 Год назад +1

      @@brentboswell1294Their center axles could also be raised. If you look at the trucks, you can see the mechanism to do this. Their suffix designation is C4, if I remember correctly. We used to get these on BNSF run-through coal trains and you would also get them on other freights. I believe that they would raise the axle in certain areas, like yards and the like, because of tighter curves. Operationally, you couldn't tell the difference unless you looked at the designation.

    • @conrailfan6277
      @conrailfan6277 11 месяцев назад

      Also the A1A trucks were used on road switchers too, they had 2 less traction motors which lowered the weight of the Locomotive for use on lighter rail!!!

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  • @theexcaliburone5933
    @theexcaliburone5933 Год назад +3

    Was it possible for passenger F units to run as a multiple unit with freight F units or was the gearing different?

    • @011dave
      @011dave Год назад +3

      Yes they could run together but usually the by then with passenger traffic rapidly declining it was a better option to regear former passenger F units and run them in freight until trade in on new locomotives although Santa Fe did a massive rebuild of several hundred F units into more useful CF7 switcher/local locomotives some of which still survive on shortlines today

    • @ErnestImken
      @ErnestImken Год назад +1

      When Santa Fe took delivery of F-3 units they changed the gears for 100mph service to Chicago. EMD said they would not warranty this change. Sante Fe ran them anyway. Later F-3s with lower gearing were painted blue and yellow. The war bonnets were geared for passenger service.

    • @theexcaliburone5933
      @theexcaliburone5933 Год назад

      @@011dave alright thank you

    • @theexcaliburone5933
      @theexcaliburone5933 Год назад

      @@ErnestImken did anything like this happen with the SP?

  • @The_Irish_Volunteer
    @The_Irish_Volunteer 2 месяца назад

    The F Series in my opinion were the most beautiful diesel locomotives ever built.

  • @eoj2495
    @eoj2495 Год назад

    Don’t want to pile on, but please slow down, add some pauses here and there. Very good info and love the numerous pics of the locomotives..

  • @haroldbenton979
    @haroldbenton979 Год назад +6

    Also the WPB decided that almost all diesel engines were going into ships. EMD Alco and Fairbanks Morse all produced thousands of engines that were stuffed into LST destroyer escorts most auxiliary ships and submarines.

  • @JPOGers
    @JPOGers 8 месяцев назад

    I live near Grapevine, Texas. The Grapevine Vintage Railroad has two of the former New Haven FL-9’s in their fleet.

  • @truckerkevthepaidtourist
    @truckerkevthepaidtourist Год назад +2

    Those war bonnets were beautiful that whole stainless look of the whole Santa Fe train

  • @MikeG42
    @MikeG42 Год назад +2

    Excellent video Alco diesel guy. Many nice pictures. I love those F-units.👍🙂

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 Год назад +1

    hi there.greetings from england, great video, love the F units wish we had them over here back in the day

  • @dwagman8422
    @dwagman8422 Месяц назад

    I'm not usually a fan of slide shows but this one is info packed. THANK YOU for NOT using an annoying AI or computer generated voice!!! I'm so sick of those. i can't watch them. Ignore all the haters about your voice or style.

  • @leonardgilbreath9004
    @leonardgilbreath9004 2 месяца назад

    We lived in West Texas and remember watching the Santa Fa passenger trains coming from Dallas to LA.

  • @Zebrails
    @Zebrails Год назад +4

    1:41 look at Sheldon play his best card in a previous life

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  Год назад +5

      I honesty did not see that till you pointed it out!😲
      Thanks for watching!

    • @SAUBER_KH7
      @SAUBER_KH7 10 месяцев назад +2

      OMG that looks a lot like him!

  • @williamkettle8666
    @williamkettle8666 Год назад +1

    Does this guy ever stop to take a breath ?

  • @trainliker100
    @trainliker100 Год назад +3

    Just a nitpick. The term "Planned Obsolescence" described here as meaning to "fail after a certain amount of years" is not what the term means. However, the term is misused a lot. The term was invented by industrial designer Brooks Stevens and is meant as making design changes to create newer models such that owners of existing models THINK what they have is now "obsolete" and will buy a new one to replace their still perfectly good existing one. The difference may be styling only with no functional difference at all. 1950's car styling exercises were all about "planned obsolescence."

  • @stanley2004
    @stanley2004 Год назад

    At the end of the 50s the Breda Marelli Company G.A.I. of Italy began production of E-32 electric locomotives with a very similar design to GE's F Series. They were equipped with 4 Siemens electric motors with a total power of 3600 HP. Beautiful and impressive machines, some of which are still in use.

  • @philippegagnon8219
    @philippegagnon8219 5 месяцев назад

    Really interesting video. Thanks

  • @johnalder6028
    @johnalder6028 Год назад +1

    Very informative! Greetings from Port Saint Lucie Florida! Have you ever seen the train videos from wisconsin by Roamin' around with Roman! They are well done.

  • @johnandrus3901
    @johnandrus3901 Год назад +1

    The Santa Fe F3's became the most famous and well-known locomotive in the US because of Lionel's model, starting in 1948. They also offered a NYC version, also. I never got to run an F unit, but I did operate an FA a couple of times.

    • @roberthartmaier6643
      @roberthartmaier6643 Год назад

      Everybody loves the Super Chief paint scheme, but I like the NYC F3 version, with the Art Deco Black/Gray scheme even better!

  • @danielkennedy1524
    @danielkennedy1524 Год назад

    Excellent Documentary!

  • @sietafak
    @sietafak 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well done!

  • @Clavichordist
    @Clavichordist Год назад +4

    JP Morgan's greed is what killed the NH expansion. When faced with some bad investments and impending bankruptcy himself due to the Panic of 1916, he yanked the cash out of both the New Haven and the Boston and Maine who he owned. This put both railroads into bankruptcy themselves and forced the companies to trim many branch lines and curtail plans. One of the plans, while under New Haven control, was to electrify the B&M Connecticut River Line to East Deerfield and the mainline to Boston in addition to completing the electrification of the New Haven to Boston. imagine what that would've been like today if the plans had come to fruition.
    Patrick McGuinness wasn't much better. He sucked the cash out of both the B&M and the NH in the 1960s, forcing both roads into bankruptcy once again. When Penn Central was forced to take the NH, they didn't really want that railroad, or so it's said and ran everything on the lines with little maintenance as possible. It's amazing that the line actually survived and got sucked into Conrail.
    Sadly, the FP10s are no longer in service on the MBTA and haven't been for some years now but some have found their way to tourist lines. I remember the Boston and Maine Budd Liners in full swing. They were degraded into passenger cars and lived on while being pulled by the Easter Eggs. Seeing the smartly painted FP10s pulling fluted-sided passenger cars, all with steam seeping out from under them in the winter was like taking a step back in time, but alas both had reached their age when things started to fall apart and time marched on.
    What's interesting is Australia still runs some of their equivalent F-units. Built under contract, these units were produced in Australia using imported EMD parts.

  • @hobbyking5364
    @hobbyking5364 11 месяцев назад +1

    Best looking diesel series!

  • @xqqqme
    @xqqqme Год назад +17

    This is exhausting to listen to. One of those rare instances where a computer voice would have been a better choice.

    • @JackF99
      @JackF99 Год назад +4

      I'm impressed that someone could talk for 25 minutes without taking a single breath!😅

    • @lovelacetunes
      @lovelacetunes Год назад +3

      great vid, but probably would have been even better w a more relaxed, natural, narration.

  • @nimaforoughi7266
    @nimaforoughi7266 Год назад

    I grew up with multiple generations of the Trainz Railroad simulator, a game that featured a lot of EMD and ALCo products. Being young and not American, I didn't see much difference, except between aforementioned ALCo's and EMDs, as well as New Haven's FL9 which I always found a bit odd. Thank you for giving me some if the background! If you have videos on the PA I'll follow up with watching those.

  • @haroldbenton979
    @haroldbenton979 Год назад +6

    How the Santa Fe got around the water issue was this. The B units only carried the boilers with the water tank in the other end of the engine. Plus they shoved another water tank into the A unit where they would have carried the boiler. So they carried in an AB setup 1600 gallons of water for the boiler.

    • @craiglacey9827
      @craiglacey9827 Год назад

      Northern Pacific had steam generators in both A- and B-units. For their long-distance passenger trains, they added water tanks to adjacent baggage cars to increase water capacity.

  • @buecomet831
    @buecomet831 Год назад +1

    I wonder if you are gonna do the E units in the next documentary, no one has done it before so finger cross

  • @roberthuron9160
    @roberthuron9160 3 месяца назад +1

    You forgot the ATSF CF-7,rebuild out of Cleburne,Texas shop! Still very much in evidence! Thank you 😇 😊!

  • @stevenzielinski7229
    @stevenzielinski7229 Год назад

    Excellent video. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @daffyduk77
    @daffyduk77 Год назад +4

    Really great EMD mini-docu video thanks! Good to hear a proper NY-sounding accent also ! 🙂 I didn't realise just the ridiculous number of such locos that EMD manufactured. Must have been coining it in

    • @mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164
      @mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 Год назад

      It's just an American accent

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 Год назад

      @@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 Nah, even to a non-American, there are distinct differences between say *older* New York-area folk, Boston/Mass. etc areas, "Midwest US" & some of the southern US accents. Like the NY Subway announcer saying "Toidy-Toid Street". the one I like best is the Texan accent exemplified by the actor Slim Pickens in the film Doctor Strangelove. My pet hate is the US TV "MidWest" bland awfulness, esp. when spoken by a female, so whiny & nasal

  • @kc4cvh
    @kc4cvh 11 дней назад

    I believe the introduction of Diesel power actually hastened the fall of the passenger train in the USA. When the traveling public saw the new streamlined F-series locomotives, they expected speed and when timetables remained the same or slowed they concluded the train offers no advantage over a car on the new limited-access highways, so they walked away.

  • @NScaleTrainsWithChris
    @NScaleTrainsWithChris 10 месяцев назад

    I heard the the front windows on the F units (and later E units) were sourced from the windshields of GM's cars but I've never been able to confirm that.

  • @planetmongocommoditiesexch9079
    @planetmongocommoditiesexch9079 Год назад +2

    Woodlawn is in The Bronx, NY, not Massachusetts,. The FL-9's were only supposed to run on third rail power in the Park Avenue tunnel and Park Avenue Viaduct between Grand Central Terminal and the 125th Street Station. They differ from other F units in having Flexcoil trucks, not Blomberg..

  • @mikeflynn1629
    @mikeflynn1629 Год назад

    Excellent I've learned so much that I thought I knew.

  • @terrywebb8636
    @terrywebb8636 Год назад

    Growing up in Texas, my grandparents house was 100yds from the Missouri Pacific main line to Houston I remember well the F7, Gp 7, and Gp 20's brings back memories.

  • @lennyhendricks4628
    @lennyhendricks4628 2 месяца назад

    Why is the ALCO diesel guy covering arch enemy EMD???

  • @user-Dr.
    @user-Dr. Год назад +1

    I found this very interesting, it seems like anything GM ever decided to jump into they made it better.

    • @Joe-d7m6k
      @Joe-d7m6k 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, for a time--- then they ruin it.

    • @user-Dr.
      @user-Dr. 9 месяцев назад

      @@Joe-d7m6k I guess I haven't seen anything that they have ruined, personally as far as vehicles go, that is all we drive, they run longer with less maintenance than anything else.

  • @willietheraildog
    @willietheraildog Год назад

    Loved the video, thanks!

  • @prairierailproductions6737
    @prairierailproductions6737 Год назад

    What’s the story behind keep the metal side down?

  • @russellrobins5320
    @russellrobins5320 11 месяцев назад

    Where is Woodlawn MA? The Woodlawn to New Haven run?

  • @ASelbo
    @ASelbo Год назад

    I would like to mention the NSB (Norwegian railways) DI-3 locomotive made by NOHAB in the 1950’s: "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSB_Di_3" made on the F7 concept. They had a supercharged (roots blower) EMD 567 V16. The DI-3 was rugged , reliable and able to take on any climatic challenge Norway could throw at it; It had no real worthy competitors until the mid 1990's and wasn’t taken out of service until the early 2000’s. I was working on these locomotives a short period in my life and will never forget the old, solid and bulletproof technology. Hearing and feeling this beast working was an almost visceral experience. The rumble from the engine as it accelerated to take on the inclines was unforgettable, you could hear it from miles away. Much of todays equipment are very much sophisticated, quieter, stronger and faster but will inevitably end up as scrap and forgotten. The DI-3 became legend in it’s half century of service, will never be forgotten and justly so.

  • @eottoe2001
    @eottoe2001 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for pointing out that as the unit got upgraded the exterior might change to accommodate the internal change. So that's why you see units where they look like one F-7 when the builder plate would say F-3. Duh!

  • @1208bug
    @1208bug 6 месяцев назад

    @1844 55inches in lenght?

  • @SuperChiefTube
    @SuperChiefTube Год назад +1

    The Zephyr was owned by the Chicago, Burlington, & Quincy Railroad, not the Burlington Northern.

  • @deltabravo1257
    @deltabravo1257 Год назад +1

    1:05 Burlington Northern didn't exist back then.

  • @billestew7535
    @billestew7535 Год назад +1

    To change radiators you had to be part Olympic weight lifter and part octopus