@LiJo is the last person to get advice about self-awareness from, she is lost in the LARP. lijo go do some vanity clips at the beach you were better at it
intp here using habit tracker app and reminders and calendar and a time schedule for my whole week, yet never sticks to it. My mum told me, as a child I spent more time writing to do lists, than actually doing something 😅
INTP wasn't even on my radar until I came across this idea with Dave and Shan's video. It took me a long time to realize that what I saw as me being really good at reading people actually turns out to be inferior Fe. I thought I was hyper aware of other people's emotions for some pure motive. But the fact is that intense emotions just make me uncomfortable. And I get really frustrated when I experience them myself. Which explains my desire to be Buddha-like all the time.
I'm glad you make the point about "peacocking" having positive qualities of trying to develop your lower functions. Dave and Shan tend to portray it very negatively--and I agree it just confuses the issue in trying to determine one's own/somebody else's personality type. But developing your lower functions is always going to look kind of like peacocking. I guess it's a matter of distinguishing between where you are now and where you are trying to get to. I think a good way to assess personality is to look at what your most cringeworthy moments were as a young adult, and what they revolved around.
Lol I used to be relatively embarrassed of my peacock moments when I looked back at them. Now they're still embarrassing but I embrace them in all their cringey glory. I was trying to establish some level of balance. Who cares if I looked like a clown in the process? That's growth :)
I would add that as an INTJ, planning to me like breathing. It’s not something that you actively trying to do, your brain sort of just do it on its own. Nobody would ever say “hey iam good at breathing”, that is just silly.
I've noticed people tend to amplify what is contrary to them. e.g. an esfp tend to amplify being serious and logical while actually she's not like that. Or an empath trying to be self centered. I don't know why. Other examples include: intellectuals being mundane and easy going.
Makes sense, well said, but I'm a bit skeptical about how useful it is for discerning someone's type. I'm guessing you don't intend it as the only factor, but I've seen OPS talk about it in a way like it can be sometimes. If you do the "read between the lines" mode of typing, you can see the 2nd is probably a more routined person, but you still don't know *why* they are a more routined person. You can see the 1st wants to be seen as an organized person, but again, it's not clear why; it could be an unconscious "these are my aspirational traits" thing or it could be something else, like they grew up around parents who praise them for being organized and scold them for being messy. Or maybe it really is what they are good at and for one reason or another, they are not great at showing that instead of telling it. Or going back to the 1st person, maybe they are exaggerating how routined they are by focusing on the parts of their life that are routined because they are ashamed of the parts that aren't. I think you would need to actively go back and forth with them and challenge how they are describing themselves to tease out what's going on. So no typing off of video clips alone, for example. And by challenge, I mean pose questions that mess with how they are viewing it. Like off the top of my head, for the 1st person: "you described yourself as organized, so do you prefer hanging out with people who plan everything in advance?" Or like for the 2nd: "anything ever happen at the gym that threw your routine off?" Like try to see how consistently they can back up the image across different contexts and how they respond if they aren't quite sure whether you value the characteristics they are describing themself as. Idk if that makes sense, not trying to tell you how to type people, just musing about accuracy and approaches to it.
Yep, know of someone who constantly mentions whats popular or fashionable, or that they would enjoy something but its not "in" right now, so they can't. Then they (online) tested as an ISTJ... um no.
At a certain point in my life I deadass thought I was an INTP because I study STEM and I HAD to be logical and accurate, because I HAD to be perfect or otherwise what am I doing. Ti isn't even my inferior function, Te is, and I knew my Te is bad
I got an e-friend who wonders if if I'm an ISFP, because of my NASCAR poems and my stories online she read, but someone on Quora, whose name's Julia, typed me INFP based on one of the poems and other things from Quora. She's an INFP and so is Jabberwocky, another Quoran, who says I'm Si-dom. My e-friend's an INFJ who relaxed to INFP because everyone said she was too serious. She was a very imaginative child, always looking for hidden patterns and pretending to be a singer, she told me. When people cried for joy at her church (Utah girl and it's just what you'd think based on that), when she was younger, she cried too. She associated crying with being scared, so she thought something was wrong. FFF (the Utah girl e-friend's online name initials) thinks I'm an Intuitive Sensor, because of my writing style. She's on RUclips and there's no bad words in her name, but I'm respecting her privacy some. I can say her favorite animal, fox, is part of her e-name. She sees Sensor wording and, in my fanfics, other Sensing tendencies, like I use the canon framework, though with my own ideas. Some of what I do in my fanfiction's re-writing from a character's perspective, Feeling traits because I write emotional stuff and mild P because of my tone and relaxed, don't rush the fact style. Julia thinks I'm INFP because of my poetry and being too detailed to be ISFP, to her. Jabberwocky sees Si-Ne in my Quora writing, but agrees I have Fi and Te. I cried over Jabberwocky's typing, when I went to Fi-dom places online right after. Like ISFP Reddit. I had an easel as a kid and have done crafts, drawing and painting since then. My e-friend sees tertiary Ni in me, as I show that in my OCs.
Great video even if it foiled my plans, now I'm less convinced that I might be typing backwards But have no fear there is a saving grace! On the inside I think I'm pretty cold, aloof, logical, etc, but the people around me tell me that they think I'm super nice and caring and that I don't seem like I can hurt a fly, and animals and babies tend to bond to me pretty quickly even if I don't want them to And another one is that with the what do you do in a day question, my answer falls more in line with the second one, however I don't really schedule or plan anything unless I have to, but I also pretty much do the same thing day after day, and if something pops up I'll do that, I'm pretty fluid in that regard, however, something I'm not fluid is, is when someone makes plans and then they suddenly change them, like this isn't what we had planned, don't veer off of the plan without a good reason. In the other comment, I said that I wouldn't sacrifice what I believe is right for the sake of group harmony, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure if that's the case an example would be, no one has taken the dog out yet, and I shouldn't have to take the dog out because I said while my sister was discussing getting a dog, that it'd be a bad idea, she'd get tired of it and leave it for someone else to take care of like always, and it'd be terrible for a big young hyperactive golden retriever to be raised in an apartment. Well, she ended up getting the dog and like I predicted, she took him out like once and then declared him to be too hyperactive after that it fell onto me to take care of the dog despite the fact that it wasn't my idea to get a dog, and I was firmly against the idea, I was the only one with a heart big enough to actually take care of him, but this also sounds a lot like Fi values, like these are living creatures they deserve to have all the love and care they need Eventually I did manage to convince her to find the dog a home that would be better suited for him and he's much happier now
My average day. I struggle to wake up and get myself out of bed. It never gets easier. I rush getting ready, sometimes skipping breakfast. I speed to work to get there on time, always running a few minutes late. I take my meds. I go into work, a little confused and dazed at first, but I eventually figure out what I'm doing and get into it. I talk to my coworkers. If I'm not talking to my coworkers, then my mind is filled with constant chatter. If I get bored I start having arguments with myself or going into these intense internal monologues on whatever subject I happen to be thinking about. My mood is pretty unstable and can go all over the place depending on what happens that day. I come home intending to do things that I would like to, like writing, reading, drawing, or playing video games. And also general house chores. But I find it hard to do anything at all. I'm just too tired and lacking in motivation. If it's more difficult than sticking something in the microwave, I may not eat dinner. I usually just call or message my girlfriend and go down internet rabbitholes all evening. I find it hard to go to bed at the right time. My mind is filled with chatter and I suddenly realise I need to do several things I've been putting off before I can sleep. If I'm lucky I will get about 7 hours, but its often more like 6. Sometimes less.
the only way to really know is an objective test and professional analysis. mine came from usaf when i was going through my screening for ts-sci clearance. they told me intj's are very rare - they hardly ever see them. they made me a linguist, cuz i'm SO damn good at it.
Thank you Lijo looking into the MBTI over and over for years has me really understanding what your saying and the video it self. When I was younger I used to think I was an intuitive thinking type but as I started understanding the MBTI better going into adult hood I realized I fall more under intuitive feeling and I think that it’s interesting how the MBTI reflects just the literal behavior of people.
Out of curiosity is there a reason you thought you were ISFx? Were you simply unaware much of MBTI and cognitive functions? Or you were and there's some other reason?
@@cerebrummaximus3762 as Lindsay mentioned, we tend to notice the things we do less/ we are less good at... I noticed Se more. I thought I was a sensor simply because I noticed the times I succeeded in what I'm worst at... And, since I have Fi, I thought I was a feeler... I noticed feelings more because it's "my own little world" with Ni... But I didn't think of Ni because it comes naturally to me... And I didn't think of Te because it's an extroverted function. Dose that make sense to you?
Wow! Another simulated real-world example that makes these cognitive functions and the differences between them much clearer. Kudos! Hmm...Why do concrete examples help me so much in understanding cognitive functions? On different MB tests, I've tested as an INTP or an INTJ. Being typed as an Intuitive seemed logical to me because I do pull insightful metaphors from out of the air while writing poetry, but could it be that I'm actually a senser! 😲
I think I've always typed myself backwards, because as an INTJ I've always been focused on what I want to be and the ways I'm improving myself according to the feedback I get. So I've never actually wanted to admit that I'm basically an INTJ, because those traits define the things that make it difficult to get along with others, which is not who I want to be. Only recently have I come to be honest with myself and so I finally got a test result (INTJ) that I can say, "Oh my gosh, that's me. It's not who I've tried to be, but it's who I am at the end of the day."
A lot of those tests are really really wrong though. It's near impossible to type yourself accurately and there are a lot of youtuber clowns who spread misinformation, I forgot their names but it was a couple who typed Casey Neistat as an INTJ 😆
Before I got sick, my weekday routine was get up at 6 AM, get dressed, eat a very light breakfast (usually just a granola bar and a glass of milk - I can't even drink milk anymore), go over my checklist for the day while eating breakfast so I don't forget to take what I'll need that day to work, drive to work, have a very interesting and rewarding, yet often stressful day at work, drive home, take a shower (when I was working for the USDA, I often did work out in the field and get all sweaty, dusty and/or muddy. It was the best part of the job though.), put on a pair of shorts and a t-shirt, read from a couple of books on the couch (usually one about work first, then one for fun that was fiction or about a favorite hobby, take a nap for an hour or two now that reading has helped calm me down from the stress of the day, go over my checklist to mark off what I'd accomplished that day and add anything new that needed to be done the next day or in the near future, start up my computer and check emails, online forums and Facebook, play a game for a few hours on my PC or switch over to one of my game consoles to play a few games, check to see if I had everything I needed for work the next day, take care of any household chores that couldn't wait until the weekend, read in bed for a bit and fall asleep. Saturdays were spent studying about things that had come up at work that I'd realize that I didn't know enough about. Before reliable internet, that meant pouring through my reference books at home and sometimes going to the library or the local university cooperative extension office. Once I had internet that would stay on reliably (man, was dial-up internet a real pain or what?), then I'd add searches on there to the process, but still do a lot of reading from books. Once I had that done to my satisfaction (sometimes, that meant taking almost all day), I'd relax by watching college football or baseball on TV, or going to a local game at the high school if there was one going on. Or, I'd fire up my PC or game consoles and play games for hours. There were times in my past when there would be groups of people I'd met at the library, or a hobby store who were running role playing games at their house or at the store, so I'd play in a campaign with them for a few hours. At some point during the day, I'd call my grandma or a few people I'd met at church or through work (I never have made friends just causally without some shared thing like school, work or church bringing us together and probably never will) to see if they needed any help with anything. If they did, I'd go help them before getting into researching stuff. Sometimes, I'd find the answer to what had been bugging me at work while helping these people. At some point during the day, I'd go to the stores and get what I'd ran out of that week. Saturday nights were usually spent watching movies, playing games or more reading. Sundays were all about church, unless there were NFL games on. I'd watch a couple of those after church. If not, I'd do volunteer work in the church's landscaping or for the building itself if it needed it. They usually had Bible studies after the service, so I'd attend one of those if there was one that sounded interesting. I occasionally taught them too if the pastor was looking for someone to teach about a subject that I knew quite a bit about. Sometimes, the churches I used to go to had soup suppers or carry-in dinners. The churches we go to now that we live in the big city don't seem to do that. It's too bad because those were good times to meet people and get to know them a bit. I've never been big on being in crowds but those small town churches I used to go to never had huge congregations, and the people were so friendly that I never felt terribly stressed by being there. If football wasn't going on, I'd just go for a long walk followed by a long nap. Sunday night, I'd make sure that I had everything ready for work the next day and check off goals I'd achieved that weekend, then read myself to sleep. I'd usually read from the Bible about whatever the pastor had talked about in church and then about other topics that would come to mind in the process. I still read the Bible and go to church, but not as often as I used to. These days, by the time Sunday rolls around, I'm often so exhausted that I don't want to leave the house at all. Sometimes, I miss those days and look forward to when I can work like that again. Other times, I'm just so tired and in so much pain that I don't even think about it and just want to rest all day.
I’m becoming aware as I’m listening to this is that I absolutely hate interruptions and impositions from an external source, Once I have determined my own schedule and what is important for me in terms of achievement. I get kicked off center when someone else interjects their energy into my space. I feel like that is a failing within me, but maybe other people experience it as well? I have no idea. I also actually physically feel knocked off center, because I get very habituated to rhythms within my own life, and when something unexpected happens, it’s almost like I’ll lose the earth from under my feet. Like… I physically feel like something has been thrown off. Like I only got an hour of sleep or something like that, like something biological has happened.
i have that too! it's only gotten worse the older i get and the less time i am forced to be around other people (been working from home since before 2020). my phone is always on silent and so i check it only once a day, when *i'm* ready to receive whatever message is waiting for me. i do this because an unexpected phone call will leave me rattled for a good 30 minutes if it comes at a time when i'm really trying to do something else. it's totally a physical reaction.
@@retrogradepink been working from home since 2007. And yes for me it has definitely gotten worse post pandemic. I don’t want anyone else’s energy, I want my own energy, my own plans, my own structure, my own routine, and when I am done doing what I need to do… People can have my leftovers. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This helped me because I keep commenting on what I do (I think) but I actually didsomething different. I want to be someone I am not because I want to prove people wrong that talkative people are common in my area (got inflienced to say this). I want to be someone who people dony expect me to be or just someone who wants to depart from an expectation to claim that originality. It's quit interesting to see how I want to be original. Is that an example of Fi? Can someone help me figure this out?😅 Anyways, thank you for the video, it genuinely helped me❤
No clue what I am, but oh my god the "I plan!" peacocking I see coming from my lead play EJ sister. ... As she spends at least two hours in the grocery store every single time. And drives to the vacation spot but doesn't have a hotel reserved. XD (All while blaming someone else, because of course. :P) I'm sure I'm just as ridiculous about whatever my demon functions are, but holy crap that one - I know what that one looks like. lol
I dont understand what I am anymore. Thought i was INTP, but after learning about functions i thought I was INFP or ISFP. I don't know what to believe anymore and this video didn't help unfortunately.
I’ve done the MBIT, more than twice and each time it has given me two type codes. The strongest code came out as, INTJ. INTP was the second code that came out. 🤷🏼♂️I am not a wannabe INTJ, I am mostly curious about the whole typing process. How real it is or if it’s real. I took the test because it was part of our program. The two other times I paid for them myself because I was interested in finding out if the results would change. So it was, two times TJ and once,TP 😂
I try to wake up on time for school (ideally 5:20-5:30 am) but sometimes I wake up near the end of the range. Next, I usually go to the bathroom and brush my teeth -> drink water -> make my bed -> skincare -> clothes -> quick breakfast -> check I have everything -> fill my water bottles and go, but it doesn’t always take a consistently same amount of time and it’s not always in the same order since I sometimes get sidetracked on my phone 😅 I aim to drink around 84 fl oz to 120 fl oz of water per day as a chorus student and someone who’s almost gone unconscious of dehydration before and doesn’t want to repeat that experience… I also enjoy being hydrated and find I’m able to focus better that way. I usually get to school at around 7am to 7:15am, ideally having time to both go to my locker and briefly spend time with friends before heading to class at around 7:20-7:25 that starts at 7:30. I have class from 7:30-2:40, with a around a 40-minute lunch break at 12:10 or 12:11. On Tuesdays, I’m at school until 5:30 pm for chorus. I’m usually very tired around then. The other 4 days a week, I’m there after school until either 3:00, 3:30, or 4:30, depending on the day. When I can, I like to have about an hour to 1hr and a half of free time to eat and replenish my energy, occasionally exercising, when I get home because I find school very draining. However, I notice that this break can sometimes hinder my academic productivity as it’ll take me time to get back into my study flow. I aim to finish my homework at 8, but it usually ends up at 9 or 10. I try to shower at least an hour before bed. I like to journal every night, but sometimes I fall out of it and then try to get back into it. I usually fall asleep listening to sleep music or a meditation Lon the Calm app. It’s very “calming”. ☺️😅
I think I am an INFP but everyone says I'm more extroverted than I think and that I always come to peoples aid and give advice, but I don't see myself as charismatic as ENFJs usually come off as. I find myself a lot of times shutting myself down to the world when I have overextended and have helped/counciled a lot of people. I do know that I am XNFX because I feel everything. Another thing is that I love INFPs and like bringing them out of there comfort zone and watching them grow. I remember everyone's names and check in often. IDK any thoughts?
i HIGHLY SUSPECT that perhaps THE BIGGEST DISCREPANCY that occurs in typing IS confusion in the fourth function of perceiving vs judging. NO, the judging subtype ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT mean that you are judgmental. instead, it means that you are an ACUTE PERCEIVER AND as such are also ACUTELY AWARE OF the DIFFERENCES between things. on the other hand, perceivers are EXPERT SCANNERS AND as such are MORE CAPABLE of taking in vast amounts of information at once while ALSO NOT necessarily picking up on the subtle differences between things. THATS ALL. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) YEP, YEP. ABSOLUTELY. FOR SURE. - INTJ
One thing I don’t understand is why people type themselves upside down. Do they feel guilty, do they want to look cool, or what part wants them to show a certain version of themselves in those moments
Hahah I don't think there's always a conscious mechanism at play here. Sure some people may have a positive association with what they perceive to the "cool type", however I think a lot of people see their areas of growth and because those areas have their attention, they assume they take innate responsibility for them.
Aside from trauma being a strong factor, I think that it's just not cognitively "sexy" towards that particular cognitive type. My INTP friend isn't really debated or challenged on matters when he speaks up on inconsistencies within subjects. He's generally correct and gives great advice when he does share his perspective. He is finding that developing his Fe is a feat to overcome though. He's expressed a sense of pride that he's making progression in that area and that not only does he feels good about it but other people reflect that same sentiment socially. For me, actually interacting within the sensory is rewarding in itself as opposed to organizing the abstract all the time. So going rollercoasting, spending time with my extroverted or outgoing friends, trying new foods, or even stepping out into nature and immersing myself in these activities sends the mental message that I should be doing these things more often than I do. I think the heart of it all is that humans seek balance even with our own cognition. So if I'm too much in the abstract all the time, there will be times where I'm jumping on that Se train until I crash from all of the nonstop activities. Then I'm back at the nonstop Ni until I realize one day that I need to balance them out. But because I am pulled towards the Se, I'm more likely to remember these as "core memories" and cherish the times that I stepped outside of my typical way of being and fulfilled the neglected parts of my cognition.
When you did this example of how do you spend your day I was thinking like the 2nd example lol.. I get up fix my coffee.... I would like to see myself as spontaneous etc... but others have told me Im a planner.. you plan everything they say...I even planned my dinner plate I start with the least fav food on my plate ( eating each item one at a time) eat it then move up the line til I finish with my fav so I end up with the best so I have something to look forward to... and with the best flavor when Im finished..weird...someone else pointed this out to me..I analyzed it and came to the previous conclusions....I have narrowed it down to Intp or Infj?
I figure this is more common than not. I know that it is said we are “stuck” (maybe?) to a type but I have a distinct feeling I would have been the opposite if certain life events from childhood on were different. But probably not. But who knows.
I hear that! I think our childhood experiences shape how we mature in our functions and at what rate. One thing that's for sure is that people who have pressure put on them - pressure to figure out things in life, advance, move forward; have a greater cognitive advantage in terms of balance versus those who are handed life on a silver platter. Pressure is a privilege!
@@InternetLiJo it’s funny you say this. I have had quite a few friends in college who were I infinitely mature (it seems) than me. They were on top of everything wether they wanted to be or not, sometimes stemming from the death of a parent or stopping all contact with parent as teenagers and young adults. My brothers and I however did have too much handed to us which I regretted later. Because I didn’t have the need or feeling to “have” to do things when everyday adult situations would have called for it. So late in our lives we are still pretty much wandering through life. As a mom of a 12 year old I’m trying hard to not let my kid go down that same path but with certain family members who think giving him everything he wants and continually try and do things for him make it hard to accomplish.
When with tribe I just listening them talking, most time I get exhausted by hearing them, especially when they talk at the same time about their individual stories and information, but still, I survive
Omg,its hard question, cause personally my day depends on days or weeks before. If I have to work or have several plans, I wake up at 5;5:30;6:00, always drink 0,5ml of cold water,do 10min exercises, listen to music or watch one episod of any tv series,have breakfast and drink coffee. I often in depression mode so can wake up later but all the same do exercises cause my body will feel like in the morning😅 and i like when all my plans are done well amd finished,cause i am frustrated ans sad wneh my work without any global or personal sense. But i always thought that i am weak and whining mold😂 however I HATE when anyone call me weak and think themselves stronger in spirit way than me.
"it's not what they say they do, what are they actually doing?" aren't those kinda the same? the way i see it, that is under the idea that "people tend to notice the opposite." i am having a hard time putting it into words, but i hope you get it. so now my question is, "what if the person has just some sort of high awareness or something.." that what he/she is saying what he/she is actually doing? i don't know.. is that just a possibility? or is that a rule of thumb?
because, when i tried to answer the question, i think i would go like "i don't think i'm doing anything at all, i'm just there inside my room, or if outside, under a tree contemplating about abstract stuff, bla bla.., i also have a hard time getting stuff done.." isn't that kinda sounds like an Se inferior? i'm an INFJ 5w4 by the way, is it possible that i am actually ESTP?
00:38 'Backwards'...yes, and "In my next life I want to live my life backwards. You start out dead and get that out of the way. Then you wake up in an old people's home feeling better every day. You get kicked out for being too healthy, go collect your pension, and then when you start work, you get a gold watch and a party on your first day. You work for 40 years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement. You party, drink alcohol, and are generally promiscuous, then you are ready for high school. You then go to primary school, you become a kid, you play. You have no responsibilities, you become a baby until you are born. And then you spend your last 9 months floating in luxurious spa-like conditions with central heating and room service on tap, larger quarters every day and then Voila! You finish off as an org*sm!" - Woody Allen @LiJo this is once again, really terrific conte*nt. and because science minds gonna science, have you ever heard of the True Mirror? "John Walter calls himself an artist and “re-inventor” of the True Mirror. It is simple physics, there is even a mention of such a device in a Greek text around 40AD, and a Catholic priest patented the idea in 1887.". from Scienceandnonduality October 2014. The True Mirror - A Reflection of our True Nature Physical Sciences. 🦋 Bonus points for Indie si*tting on the couch. Her ears...rofl! I was watching her and thinking 'Lijo, please say something like 'sausage'.'
Ahh thank you WM!! I haven’t heard of the true mirror previously but now I have ☺️ And you’re right Indie would love to hear ‘sausage’ by the end of that video. 🤣
oh this is very interesting! i have a friend who i am quite sure is probably an ENFJ, but he's quite sure he's an INFP. i understand why he's confused, but having known him for so long combined what i know about MBTI and my own personality and how he and i interact, etc., i am just certain he's a ENFJ, but a kind of unhealthy one.
I fell the same way about myself to be honest. I think I am an INFP but everyone says I'm more extroverted than I think and that I always come to peoples aid and give advice, but I don't see myself as charismatic as ENFJs usually come off as. I find myself a lot of times shutting myself down to the world when I have overextended and have helped/counciled a lot of people. I do know that I am XNFX because I feel everything. Another thing is that I love INFPs and like bringing them out of there comfort zone and watching them grow. I remember everyone's names and check in often. IDK any thoughts?
@@ikeb770 that sounds like an ENFJ to me. even extroverts need alone time, and i've read ENFJs especially need that because of all the FE-ing they do. the trouble with others' opinions, which are of course very helpful, is that they would tend to see more of our extroverted functions, because by default, the introverted functions don't show that much. what helped me to decide on my type is reading about the type in times of stress. seeing the worst of myself all written out like that really made it click. so, i'd read about that, and examine the "loop" the types get into, that first and third function loop that you can get all caught up in, and that the second function will relieve. for my friend, he says what is positive for the INFP appears (to him at least) as negative traits for the ENFJ. so, he *decided* he should be an INFP. not a great way to go about it. i think he just needs to be honest with himself. also, i've read that ENFJs would be the type to be more likely to be confused about themselves, since they spend so much time thinking about others and might confuse themselves with them.
Ayo, can you help me clarify if this sounds like any particular type: I usually wake up, don't plan for anything, act impulsively on my whims and try to be done with my compulsory daily rituals like satisfying my sensory stimuli with music and watching some naughties. Even at work or when I was in between stressful classes, I would feel a lot better when I took a break to go to a corner and indulge in sensory stuff. When leaving home after having a comfortable and chill breakfast, reading up on stuff etc. I put on my headphones and don't pay attention to other people except recognizing where are they located, how many people are near me, are they moving fast or slow, are there any threats etc. but I do pay attention to roads, objects, animals. If the weather is okay, I hop on an electric scooter and effortlessly zig zag between cars and people. When I arrive at my destination, if it's going to be a stressful situation I do another ritual beforehand to get myself comfortable. Here is the funky stuff: I get really emotional when I'm conversing directly with people and by that I mean I get really excited and tense. Sometimes I excessively obey emotional stimuli like if someone is asking for a very normal request like "hey can you grab that for me" and my brain treats it like an objective that should be completed as fast as possible, usually delivered with an emotionally frozen, mechanical and nervous way. It's only after the person acts warm and kind to me that I get back to normal. People give me a lot of intense energy, even though I look calm and chill you can literally feel the tension with me doesn't matter if it's a friendly banter or competitive aggresive energy with other males, the tension starts to go up until it reaches a peak and only after that it gets back to normal. By the sounds of what I described above and according to many tests, Fe is my weakest function. However, many tests seem to put me in INTJ, ENTP and sometimes ESTP. As far as I know myself, I don't get energized when alone in fact, I'm very down and almost sleepy when I'm home alone. I get electrified like a light bulb when I'm talking to people I really like. I still have left over energy even when I get home and think about it. So, I don't know if Fe is my inferior or not since Ti is not my dominant. My Se is also really strong and feels natural, I'm very physical as well and my first gut insinct is solving things with sheer force like hitting gadgets or standing up to people.
i'm sure that i'm 6w5 sx/so 614 and before knowing this enneagram on mbti i'm an introverted intuitive but after knowing enneagram i ve got no clue to know my mbti type suddenly the whole mbti types maches with me in their interacting with enneagram 6 , so how could ik?(2,3 days ago i saw an article about all mbti types with enneagram 6 and i was mostly esfp 6and that shocks me bc in average i'm not an esfp at all)
Actually kind of same. I'm enneagram 6 sx/sp ENTP, kinda balanced wings, 639 or 631. My very first typing choice used to be INFJ since I thought I really fit an intuitive with Ti-Fe axis judging functions. My enneagram made me more careful about danger related to unlimited amount of novelty, slightly less adaptable and more planning based than average NeTi. I, overall, am giving very strong IxFJ first impression vibes. It was through interaction with actual xxFJs, enneagram research and more unbiased cognitive functions infos that I've decided I'm actually an Ne dom.
Hello there, we have almost the same personality. 6w5 sx 641 here. Thought I was ISFP or INFJ for a long time! Pretty sure that my perception axis is dominant Ni and inferior Se, but still not sure about my judgement axis.
@@InternetLiJo speaking of upside down. When I consciously choose to play with the tribe, set the vibe and ultimately get over my own self importance, boy do I feel better and complete. Work those lower functions people
Wondering what types would love cobra kai... n understand their life now thru perspectives sooo much more on a deeper level... love those meaningful inspiring shows💞 n what types would love trailer park boys... what types just wants to shutt off that show its way tooo much for them... netflix hit shows
An interesting take on this. It makes sense that we'd be naturally focusing on what we are trying to improve about ourselves rather than on what comes easy for us or just sort of happens when we aren't trying too hard to be an 'ideal' person. My life is a rather jumbled mess at the moment, so how I do my day to day right now maybe isn't the best example of who I really am. I've had to quit my full-time away from home job due to health problems and am doing several different freelance jobs, mostly from home now. It requires me to be a lot more flexible in how I spend my time than I'm used to and I'm still trying to get used to it. When my life now isn't being disrupted by doctors' appointments, blood tests, body scans, etc. (which seems to be happening way more often than it ever has in my life), I wake up about 4 AM without needing an alarm clock because my bladder takes care of that :). Then, I go out on my apartment's patio and check to see if my (currently) ten potted plants need watered, deadheaded, pruned, etc. and to enjoy a bit of fresh air before the desert heats up (Yes, I'm still in the t-shirt and boxer briefs that I usually sleep in. My patio has walls rather than railing, so there's a bit of privacy out there). Next, I go to the kitchen and get a glass of water. I use that tap because it's the one that has an under-sink water filter hooked up to it. I don't eat anything unless my wife's up by that time and insists that I have some of the breakfast she's making. I never feel truly hungry until about 10 AM or so. Sometimes, I get so wrapped up in what I'm doing that I'll ignore such feelings almost all day, but I do drink plenty of water. My health condition has some fun symptoms including feeling thirsty all the time. On Wednesdays, I get dressed and make my rounds with clients for whom I do professional gardening and handyman tasks. They are people who enjoy their gardens but can no longer take proper care of them due to health problems. My grandma was my first and still is my main client, but I have several others now. Sometimes, it takes both Wednesday and Thursday to get around to them all if there's a lot to do at some of the properties. As much as I enjoy working on computers and writing, sometimes those jobs stress me out, but I always find working in lawns and gardens relaxing. Sometimes, I'll volunteer to help with the landscaping at our church, or at my wife's school. When I was working away from home, I'd also help out with the landscaping around the store or office that I was working in. I generally turn my computer on next and check my emails. Now that I have a true smart phone (I've been one of those flip phone 'dinosaurs' for years now. I never buy something until I'm completely convinced that it's actually a good idea, something I really need and the one I'm buying is the best one that fits my budget. It's taken years of studying smart phones to finally convince me to give them a try), I occasionally check my email on that. I prefer having a larger screen to look at though, so I still use my desktop PC most of the time when I'm home. If there's nothing in my emails that I need to take action on right away, I check my social media accounts (I have one on five different platforms) to see what's happening. I check the notifications first to see if anyone I know on there is contacting me about anything that I should act on. I get a lot of my contacts for freelance editing projects through social media - especially Facebook and LinkedIn. If there's nothing I need to act on right away, I respond to a few posts from people whom I especially like to keep in touch with. I keep a typed list of people who don't always show up on my social media platforms' 'walls' that I check to see what they are up to. I also have typed and printed out list of phone numbers, email addresses, and the passwords for my websites, which I update regularly. The more I learn about technology (and I know a lot about it), the less I trust it. Usually by this time, I've either found a new project that I need to get started on, or I decide to make more progress on a project that I've already started. Doing the actual work of writing new content, editing my rough drafts, or editing something for a client will usually take up most of the rest of my day until my wife comes home from the school where she teaches around 6 or 7 PM. Sometimes, if I'm not too engrossed in what I'm doing, I'll notice that I'm hungry and will have a light lunch. I'll also take breaks about every two or three hours during this time because my back and hips start hurting if I sit too long. During those breaks, I'll do household chores such as taking out the trash (if this needs done, I'll get dressed to do it), doing the dishes or laundry, or cleaning some part of the apartment. My wife says that one of the biggest adjustments she's had to get used to after marrying me was learning to be neater and more organized since I keep such a clean and neat house. She learned early on that her habits of just leaving things all over the place and not cleaning up messes right away was driving me nuts. Sometimes, all the chores are done for the week, so I'll get dressed and go for a walk outside. While I'm walking, I'm usually talking to myself and letting my mind wander off into all sorts of different daydreams like I have ever since I was a little kid. There were days when I'd spend my free time just sitting in my room daydreaming or drawing what I was daydreaming about. While I'm doing these chores, I'll listen to music or watch a RUclips video about one of the many topics I'm interested in: personality type, hyperparathyroidism (one of the health problems I'm struggling with now), depression, video games, movies (not the actual movie itself, but a review, behind the scenes featurette, or discussion of it), book reviews, gardening, technology, etc. Sometimes, I'll feel like playing a video game (not nearly as often as I used to because I have a harder time concentrating now and my muscles ache all the time), so I'll play a few short games on one of my many game consoles, or part of a longer game on my PC. When my wife comes home, I have supper with her and listen to her talk about her day and/or whatever's on her mind - usually problems with coworkers, concerns about students, what's coming up next that she'd like my help with, etc. I don't speak much during these conversations: I mostly listen. If she wants me to respond, she's learned that she usually needs to ask me to. Then, we watch something together, usually the evening game shows like Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune. Sometimes, we'll also watch a cooking competition show or a documentary. By the time those are over, she goes to bed if its a weekday. She might stay up a bit past 9 if it's a Saturday. I used to be a major night owl and would stay up until 2 or 3 AM, but my health conditions wear me out now, so I'm usually in bed, or falling asleep on the couch by 10 or 11 myself. I usually read myself to sleep these days. I have a decent sized home library of books about everything from botany to world history, with fiction books of sci-fi, fantasy, mysteries and superheroes to add a bit of fun. I find that I need to read or play a game on one of my portable gaming systems to wind my mind down in the evening. My body might be exhausted, but my mind is still going full speed until I calm it down by focusing on one of those things. I used to have a lot of short-term goals and one long-term major goal, but now that I'm so sick, my only long-term goal is to either get cured from my illnesses, or at least find something that'll make living with them more bearable. It's even possible that the worst illness I have could kill me if I don't have surgery for it in the next few years, so I'm not nearly as concerned about winning the 'rat race' or achieving some lofty lifetime goal anymore. If you had told me when I was in college, or in the early stages of my former career as a conservation consultant for the USDA that someday, I'd no longer care about that, I'd have thought you were crazy. I used to live for that job. I was as passionate about it as my wife still is about teaching K - 2nd grade. Today, however, I've let it go. I just can't deal with the pressure and stress of working like that. Maybe after I have a surgery, or they find a medication(s) that'll relieve my symptoms, I'll have the energy to care about a career again. I'm not sure what this says about my true personality, but it does seem at times like I'm not myself anymore.
Not sure what it says about your personality, but I find your writing skills very impressive. I can't believe I just read that entire comment and I actually enjoyed reading it. Totally held my attention that whole time and I was somewhat disappointed that it eventually ended. Anyway, I wish you the best possible outcome with your medical issues.
Self-awareness is the hardest thing. Because what you represent is not what you actually are.
The journey of self realization 🪞
So I'm not a genius?!?
🤯🤯🤯
@LiJo is the last person to get advice about self-awareness from, she is lost in the LARP. lijo go do some vanity clips at the beach you were better at it
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Monoceros, who taught you this?
intp here using habit tracker app and reminders and calendar and a time schedule for my whole week, yet never sticks to it. My mum told me, as a child I spent more time writing to do lists, than actually doing something 😅
INTP wasn't even on my radar until I came across this idea with Dave and Shan's video. It took me a long time to realize that what I saw as me being really good at reading people actually turns out to be inferior Fe. I thought I was hyper aware of other people's emotions for some pure motive. But the fact is that intense emotions just make me uncomfortable. And I get really frustrated when I experience them myself. Which explains my desire to be Buddha-like all the time.
I'm glad you make the point about "peacocking" having positive qualities of trying to develop your lower functions. Dave and Shan tend to portray it very negatively--and I agree it just confuses the issue in trying to determine one's own/somebody else's personality type. But developing your lower functions is always going to look kind of like peacocking. I guess it's a matter of distinguishing between where you are now and where you are trying to get to.
I think a good way to assess personality is to look at what your most cringeworthy moments were as a young adult, and what they revolved around.
Lol I used to be relatively embarrassed of my peacock moments when I looked back at them. Now they're still embarrassing but I embrace them in all their cringey glory. I was trying to establish some level of balance. Who cares if I looked like a clown in the process? That's growth :)
Lol, assess.
So I'm not an ENTP, but an PTNE?! Now everything I've been through in life makes so much sense!😢
YES, this is the right format for assisting people in typing others and themselves.
Thank you for this, it's great
Thanks Jason 😎
What we'd like to be is not always what we actually are
and so the motivation to grow is birthed 🌱
@@InternetLiJo #LiJoCoaching
I would add that as an INTJ, planning to me like breathing. It’s not something that you actively trying to do, your brain sort of just do it on its own. Nobody would ever say “hey iam good at breathing”, that is just silly.
I've noticed people tend to amplify what is contrary to them. e.g. an esfp tend to amplify being serious and logical while actually she's not like that. Or an empath trying to be self centered. I don't know why. Other examples include: intellectuals being mundane and easy going.
Anyone can do anything and yet we all perpetually succumb to our own default psychology. Humanity in a nutshell.
Makes sense, well said, but I'm a bit skeptical about how useful it is for discerning someone's type. I'm guessing you don't intend it as the only factor, but I've seen OPS talk about it in a way like it can be sometimes. If you do the "read between the lines" mode of typing, you can see the 2nd is probably a more routined person, but you still don't know *why* they are a more routined person. You can see the 1st wants to be seen as an organized person, but again, it's not clear why; it could be an unconscious "these are my aspirational traits" thing or it could be something else, like they grew up around parents who praise them for being organized and scold them for being messy. Or maybe it really is what they are good at and for one reason or another, they are not great at showing that instead of telling it. Or going back to the 1st person, maybe they are exaggerating how routined they are by focusing on the parts of their life that are routined because they are ashamed of the parts that aren't.
I think you would need to actively go back and forth with them and challenge how they are describing themselves to tease out what's going on. So no typing off of video clips alone, for example. And by challenge, I mean pose questions that mess with how they are viewing it. Like off the top of my head, for the 1st person: "you described yourself as organized, so do you prefer hanging out with people who plan everything in advance?" Or like for the 2nd: "anything ever happen at the gym that threw your routine off?" Like try to see how consistently they can back up the image across different contexts and how they respond if they aren't quite sure whether you value the characteristics they are describing themself as. Idk if that makes sense, not trying to tell you how to type people, just musing about accuracy and approaches to it.
Yep, know of someone who constantly mentions whats popular or fashionable, or that they would enjoy something but its not "in" right now, so they can't. Then they (online) tested as an ISTJ... um no.
I love it when you include examples like this! It really helps me understand.
Ah music to my ears. Thanks Sophia.
At a certain point in my life I deadass thought I was an INTP because I study STEM and I HAD to be logical and accurate, because I HAD to be perfect or otherwise what am I doing. Ti isn't even my inferior function, Te is, and I knew my Te is bad
So you're I_FP? INFP, I guess? What do/did you study?
Do you think you're ever gonna graduate? 😅 I'm asking seriously.
I got an e-friend who wonders if if I'm an ISFP, because of my NASCAR poems and my stories online she read, but someone on Quora, whose name's Julia, typed me INFP based on one of the poems and other things from Quora. She's an INFP and so is Jabberwocky, another Quoran, who says I'm Si-dom. My e-friend's an INFJ who relaxed to INFP because everyone said she was too serious. She was a very imaginative child, always looking for hidden patterns and pretending to be a singer, she told me. When people cried for joy at her church (Utah girl and it's just what you'd think based on that), when she was younger, she cried too. She associated crying with being scared, so she thought something was wrong. FFF (the Utah girl e-friend's online name initials) thinks I'm an Intuitive Sensor, because of my writing style. She's on RUclips and there's no bad words in her name, but I'm respecting her privacy some. I can say her favorite animal, fox, is part of her e-name. She sees Sensor wording and, in my fanfics, other Sensing tendencies, like I use the canon framework, though with my own ideas. Some of what I do in my fanfiction's re-writing from a character's perspective, Feeling traits because I write emotional stuff and mild P because of my tone and relaxed, don't rush the fact style. Julia thinks I'm INFP because of my poetry and being too detailed to be ISFP, to her. Jabberwocky sees Si-Ne in my Quora writing, but agrees I have Fi and Te. I cried over Jabberwocky's typing, when I went to Fi-dom places online right after. Like ISFP Reddit. I had an easel as a kid and have done crafts, drawing and painting since then. My e-friend sees tertiary Ni in me, as I show that in my OCs.
I absolutely LOVE the aesthetic of your videos, it's so satisfying to see, thank you for putting your mind into it!
Very fancy.
Great video even if it foiled my plans, now I'm less convinced that I might be typing backwards
But have no fear there is a saving grace! On the inside I think I'm pretty cold, aloof, logical, etc, but the people around me tell me that they think I'm super nice and caring and that I don't seem like I can hurt a fly, and animals and babies tend to bond to me pretty quickly even if I don't want them to
And another one is that with the what do you do in a day question, my answer falls more in line with the second one, however I don't really schedule or plan anything unless I have to, but I also pretty much do the same thing day after day, and if something pops up I'll do that, I'm pretty fluid in that regard, however, something I'm not fluid is, is when someone makes plans and then they suddenly change them, like this isn't what we had planned, don't veer off of the plan without a good reason.
In the other comment, I said that I wouldn't sacrifice what I believe is right for the sake of group harmony, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure if that's the case an example would be, no one has taken the dog out yet, and I shouldn't have to take the dog out because I said while my sister was discussing getting a dog, that it'd be a bad idea, she'd get tired of it and leave it for someone else to take care of like always, and it'd be terrible for a big young hyperactive golden retriever to be raised in an apartment.
Well, she ended up getting the dog and like I predicted, she took him out like once and then declared him to be too hyperactive after that it fell onto me to take care of the dog despite the fact that it wasn't my idea to get a dog, and I was firmly against the idea, I was the only one with a heart big enough to actually take care of him, but this also sounds a lot like Fi values, like these are living creatures they deserve to have all the love and care they need
Eventually I did manage to convince her to find the dog a home that would be better suited for him and he's much happier now
If I had to put an unofficial non-scientific guess out there after reading a few of your comments, I'd throw my dart at INTP 😉
@@InternetLiJo That's what everyone who actually takes the time to listen to me thinks too lol
My average day.
I struggle to wake up and get myself out of bed. It never gets easier. I rush getting ready, sometimes skipping breakfast. I speed to work to get there on time, always running a few minutes late.
I take my meds.
I go into work, a little confused and dazed at first, but I eventually figure out what I'm doing and get into it. I talk to my coworkers. If I'm not talking to my coworkers, then my mind is filled with constant chatter. If I get bored I start having arguments with myself or going into these intense internal monologues on whatever subject I happen to be thinking about. My mood is pretty unstable and can go all over the place depending on what happens that day.
I come home intending to do things that I would like to, like writing, reading, drawing, or playing video games. And also general house chores. But I find it hard to do anything at all. I'm just too tired and lacking in motivation. If it's more difficult than sticking something in the microwave, I may not eat dinner. I usually just call or message my girlfriend and go down internet rabbitholes all evening.
I find it hard to go to bed at the right time. My mind is filled with chatter and I suddenly realise I need to do several things I've been putting off before I can sleep. If I'm lucky I will get about 7 hours, but its often more like 6. Sometimes less.
hi, if you don't mind me asking what type are you?
the only way to really know is an objective test and professional analysis. mine came from usaf when i was going through my screening for ts-sci clearance. they told me intj's are very rare - they hardly ever see them. they made me a linguist, cuz i'm SO damn good at it.
I'm pretty sure I'm not an ESTP, but TBH I have a gut feeling I'm possibly a little bit mistyped. [INJF]
This was very interesting, and food for thoughts as well. It might be an explaination of why i'm questioning my type since 10 years.
Perhaps it is! Always worth taking a look at if you plan to use type as a tool. 😊
Thank you Lijo looking into the MBTI over and over for years has me really understanding what your saying and the video it self. When I was younger I used to think I was an intuitive thinking type but as I started understanding the MBTI better going into adult hood I realized I fall more under intuitive feeling and I think that it’s interesting how the MBTI reflects just the literal behavior of people.
Very nice, thanks for tuning in.
Wow I can tell that you care so much about this topic. Thanks for taking the time to make this video
Thank you for taking the time to notice the heart behind it :)
Yeah... I thought I was an ISFP/ ISFJ...
I'm an INTJ.
Such an interesting video. Thank you, Lindsay :)
You're so welcome!
Out of curiosity is there a reason you thought you were ISFx? Were you simply unaware much of MBTI and cognitive functions? Or you were and there's some other reason?
@@cerebrummaximus3762 as Lindsay mentioned, we tend to notice the things we do less/ we are less good at... I noticed Se more. I thought I was a sensor simply because I noticed the times I succeeded in what I'm worst at...
And, since I have Fi, I thought I was a feeler... I noticed feelings more because it's "my own little world" with Ni...
But I didn't think of Ni because it comes naturally to me... And I didn't think of Te because it's an extroverted function.
Dose that make sense to you?
@@talyahfeigenbaum9486 I mean close enough... thanks for answering
@@cerebrummaximus3762 what do you mean?
Wow! Another simulated real-world example that makes these cognitive functions and the differences between them much clearer. Kudos! Hmm...Why do concrete examples help me so much in understanding cognitive functions? On different MB tests, I've tested as an INTP or an INTJ. Being typed as an Intuitive seemed logical to me because I do pull insightful metaphors from out of the air while writing poetry, but could it be that I'm actually a senser! 😲
I think I've always typed myself backwards, because as an INTJ I've always been focused on what I want to be and the ways I'm improving myself according to the feedback I get. So I've never actually wanted to admit that I'm basically an INTJ, because those traits define the things that make it difficult to get along with others, which is not who I want to be. Only recently have I come to be honest with myself and so I finally got a test result (INTJ) that I can say, "Oh my gosh, that's me. It's not who I've tried to be, but it's who I am at the end of the day."
A lot of those tests are really really wrong though. It's near impossible to type yourself accurately and there are a lot of youtuber clowns who spread misinformation, I forgot their names but it was a couple who typed Casey Neistat as an INTJ 😆
Before I got sick, my weekday routine was get up at 6 AM, get dressed, eat a very light breakfast (usually just a granola bar and a glass of milk - I can't even drink milk anymore), go over my checklist for the day while eating breakfast so I don't forget to take what I'll need that day to work, drive to work, have a very interesting and rewarding, yet often stressful day at work, drive home, take a shower (when I was working for the USDA, I often did work out in the field and get all sweaty, dusty and/or muddy. It was the best part of the job though.), put on a pair of shorts and a t-shirt, read from a couple of books on the couch (usually one about work first, then one for fun that was fiction or about a favorite hobby, take a nap for an hour or two now that reading has helped calm me down from the stress of the day, go over my checklist to mark off what I'd accomplished that day and add anything new that needed to be done the next day or in the near future, start up my computer and check emails, online forums and Facebook, play a game for a few hours on my PC or switch over to one of my game consoles to play a few games, check to see if I had everything I needed for work the next day, take care of any household chores that couldn't wait until the weekend, read in bed for a bit and fall asleep.
Saturdays were spent studying about things that had come up at work that I'd realize that I didn't know enough about. Before reliable internet, that meant pouring through my reference books at home and sometimes going to the library or the local university cooperative extension office. Once I had internet that would stay on reliably (man, was dial-up internet a real pain or what?), then I'd add searches on there to the process, but still do a lot of reading from books. Once I had that done to my satisfaction (sometimes, that meant taking almost all day), I'd relax by watching college football or baseball on TV, or going to a local game at the high school if there was one going on. Or, I'd fire up my PC or game consoles and play games for hours. There were times in my past when there would be groups of people I'd met at the library, or a hobby store who were running role playing games at their house or at the store, so I'd play in a campaign with them for a few hours. At some point during the day, I'd call my grandma or a few people I'd met at church or through work (I never have made friends just causally without some shared thing like school, work or church bringing us together and probably never will) to see if they needed any help with anything. If they did, I'd go help them before getting into researching stuff. Sometimes, I'd find the answer to what had been bugging me at work while helping these people. At some point during the day, I'd go to the stores and get what I'd ran out of that week. Saturday nights were usually spent watching movies, playing games or more reading.
Sundays were all about church, unless there were NFL games on. I'd watch a couple of those after church. If not, I'd do volunteer work in the church's landscaping or for the building itself if it needed it. They usually had Bible studies after the service, so I'd attend one of those if there was one that sounded interesting. I occasionally taught them too if the pastor was looking for someone to teach about a subject that I knew quite a bit about. Sometimes, the churches I used to go to had soup suppers or carry-in dinners. The churches we go to now that we live in the big city don't seem to do that. It's too bad because those were good times to meet people and get to know them a bit. I've never been big on being in crowds but those small town churches I used to go to never had huge congregations, and the people were so friendly that I never felt terribly stressed by being there. If football wasn't going on, I'd just go for a long walk followed by a long nap. Sunday night, I'd make sure that I had everything ready for work the next day and check off goals I'd achieved that weekend, then read myself to sleep. I'd usually read from the Bible about whatever the pastor had talked about in church and then about other topics that would come to mind in the process.
I still read the Bible and go to church, but not as often as I used to. These days, by the time Sunday rolls around, I'm often so exhausted that I don't want to leave the house at all. Sometimes, I miss those days and look forward to when I can work like that again. Other times, I'm just so tired and in so much pain that I don't even think about it and just want to rest all day.
I’m becoming aware as I’m listening to this is that I absolutely hate interruptions and impositions from an external source, Once I have determined my own schedule and what is important for me in terms of achievement. I get kicked off center when someone else interjects their energy into my space. I feel like that is a failing within me, but maybe other people experience it as well? I have no idea.
I also actually physically feel knocked off center, because I get very habituated to rhythms within my own life, and when something unexpected happens, it’s almost like I’ll lose the earth from under my feet. Like… I physically feel like something has been thrown off. Like I only got an hour of sleep or something like that, like something biological has happened.
i have that too! it's only gotten worse the older i get and the less time i am forced to be around other people (been working from home since before 2020). my phone is always on silent and so i check it only once a day, when *i'm* ready to receive whatever message is waiting for me. i do this because an unexpected phone call will leave me rattled for a good 30 minutes if it comes at a time when i'm really trying to do something else. it's totally a physical reaction.
@@retrogradepink been working from home since 2007. And yes for me it has definitely gotten worse post pandemic. I don’t want anyone else’s energy, I want my own energy, my own plans, my own structure, my own routine, and when I am done doing what I need to do… People can have my leftovers. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This helped me because I keep commenting on what I do (I think) but I actually didsomething different. I want to be someone I am not because I want to prove people wrong that talkative people are common in my area (got inflienced to say this). I want to be someone who people dony expect me to be or just someone who wants to depart from an expectation to claim that originality. It's quit interesting to see how I want to be original. Is that an example of Fi? Can someone help me figure this out?😅
Anyways, thank you for the video, it genuinely helped me❤
No clue what I am, but oh my god the "I plan!" peacocking I see coming from my lead play EJ sister. ... As she spends at least two hours in the grocery store every single time. And drives to the vacation spot but doesn't have a hotel reserved. XD (All while blaming someone else, because of course. :P)
I'm sure I'm just as ridiculous about whatever my demon functions are, but holy crap that one - I know what that one looks like. lol
Love the channel change from Person 1. Morning schedule [squealing brakes] bachelorette party!
Hahah right?! It happens so fast 🤣
Great insights! MBTI community needs more ESTJ channels like yours
Thanks! What’s an ESTJ channel?!
@@InternetLiJo Look like one of thoses Bot channel again.
Entj. Definitely te dom with lots of se.
@@DRAVIASTUDIO ESTJs aren't bots! They have feelings like everyone else
I dont understand what I am anymore. Thought i was INTP, but after learning about functions i thought I was INFP or ISFP. I don't know what to believe anymore and this video didn't help unfortunately.
Bro fr.
I am confused. My top main ones I suspect I might be are
INTP
INFP
INTJ
INFJ
😭😭😭 Helppp
I’ve done the MBIT, more than twice and each time it has given me two type codes. The strongest code came out as, INTJ. INTP was the second code that came out. 🤷🏼♂️I am not a wannabe INTJ, I am mostly curious about the whole typing process. How real it is or if it’s real. I took the test because it was part of our program. The two other times I paid for them myself because I was interested in finding out if the results would change. So it was, two times TJ and once,TP 😂
I try to wake up on time for school (ideally 5:20-5:30 am) but sometimes I wake up near the end of the range. Next, I usually go to the bathroom and brush my teeth -> drink water -> make my bed -> skincare -> clothes -> quick breakfast -> check I have everything -> fill my water bottles and go, but it doesn’t always take a consistently same amount of time and it’s not always in the same order since I sometimes get sidetracked on my phone 😅 I aim to drink around 84 fl oz to 120 fl oz of water per day as a chorus student and someone who’s almost gone unconscious of dehydration before and doesn’t want to repeat that experience… I also enjoy being hydrated and find I’m able to focus better that way. I usually get to school at around 7am to 7:15am, ideally having time to both go to my locker and briefly spend time with friends before heading to class at around 7:20-7:25 that starts at 7:30. I have class from 7:30-2:40, with a around a 40-minute lunch break at 12:10 or 12:11. On Tuesdays, I’m at school until 5:30 pm for chorus. I’m usually very tired around then. The other 4 days a week, I’m there after school until either 3:00, 3:30, or 4:30, depending on the day. When I can, I like to have about an hour to 1hr and a half of free time to eat and replenish my energy, occasionally exercising, when I get home because I find school very draining. However, I notice that this break can sometimes hinder my academic productivity as it’ll take me time to get back into my study flow. I aim to finish my homework at 8, but it usually ends up at 9 or 10. I try to shower at least an hour before bed. I like to journal every night, but sometimes I fall out of it and then try to get back into it. I usually fall asleep listening to sleep music or a meditation Lon the Calm app. It’s very “calming”. ☺️😅
I love how you explain things.
Originally typed as enfp when I’m so person #2 it hurts (I’m entj)
Thanks for the great content
I think I am an INFP but everyone says I'm more extroverted than I think and that I always come to peoples aid and give advice, but I don't see myself as charismatic as ENFJs usually come off as. I find myself a lot of times shutting myself down to the world when I have overextended and have helped/counciled a lot of people. I do know that I am XNFX because I feel everything. Another thing is that I love INFPs and like bringing them out of there comfort zone and watching them grow. I remember everyone's names and check in often. IDK any thoughts?
Have you ever though of being an INFJ? Your description may also coincide with the INFJ one
i HIGHLY SUSPECT that perhaps THE BIGGEST DISCREPANCY that occurs in typing IS confusion in the fourth function of perceiving vs judging.
NO, the judging subtype ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT mean that you are judgmental. instead, it means that you are an ACUTE PERCEIVER AND as such are also ACUTELY AWARE OF the DIFFERENCES between things. on the other hand, perceivers are EXPERT SCANNERS AND as such are MORE CAPABLE of taking in vast amounts of information at once while ALSO NOT necessarily picking up on the subtle differences between things.
THATS ALL. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
YEP, YEP.
ABSOLUTELY.
FOR SURE.
- INTJ
One thing I don’t understand is why people type themselves upside down. Do they feel guilty, do they want to look cool, or what part wants them to show a certain version of themselves in those moments
Hahah I don't think there's always a conscious mechanism at play here. Sure some people may have a positive association with what they perceive to the "cool type", however I think a lot of people see their areas of growth and because those areas have their attention, they assume they take innate responsibility for them.
Aside from trauma being a strong factor, I think that it's just not cognitively "sexy" towards that particular cognitive type. My INTP friend isn't really debated or challenged on matters when he speaks up on inconsistencies within subjects. He's generally correct and gives great advice when he does share his perspective. He is finding that developing his Fe is a feat to overcome though. He's expressed a sense of pride that he's making progression in that area and that not only does he feels good about it but other people reflect that same sentiment socially. For me, actually interacting within the sensory is rewarding in itself as opposed to organizing the abstract all the time. So going rollercoasting, spending time with my extroverted or outgoing friends, trying new foods, or even stepping out into nature and immersing myself in these activities sends the mental message that I should be doing these things more often than I do.
I think the heart of it all is that humans seek balance even with our own cognition. So if I'm too much in the abstract all the time, there will be times where I'm jumping on that Se train until I crash from all of the nonstop activities. Then I'm back at the nonstop Ni until I realize one day that I need to balance them out. But because I am pulled towards the Se, I'm more likely to remember these as "core memories" and cherish the times that I stepped outside of my typical way of being and fulfilled the neglected parts of my cognition.
When you did this example of how do you spend your day I was thinking like the 2nd example lol.. I get up fix my coffee.... I would like to see myself as spontaneous etc... but others have told me Im a planner.. you plan everything they say...I even planned my dinner plate I start with the least fav food on my plate ( eating each item one at a time) eat it then move up the line til I finish with my fav so I end up with the best so I have something to look forward to... and with the best flavor when Im finished..weird...someone else pointed this out to me..I analyzed it and came to the previous conclusions....I have narrowed it down to Intp or Infj?
High quality content + very interesting, as usual
Thank you Sim!
Person 1 is outcome and person 2 is progression
I figure this is more common than not. I know that it is said we are “stuck” (maybe?) to a type but I have a distinct feeling I would have been the opposite if certain life events from childhood on were different. But probably not. But who knows.
Also to say that since we aren’t fully developed at that age it probably would go the same way no matter what. Sorry I’m going in circles.
I hear that! I think our childhood experiences shape how we mature in our functions and at what rate. One thing that's for sure is that people who have pressure put on them - pressure to figure out things in life, advance, move forward; have a greater cognitive advantage in terms of balance versus those who are handed life on a silver platter. Pressure is a privilege!
@@InternetLiJo it’s funny you say this. I have had quite a few friends in college who were I infinitely mature (it seems) than me. They were on top of everything wether they wanted to be or not, sometimes stemming from the death of a parent or stopping all contact with parent as teenagers and young adults. My brothers and I however did have too much handed to us which I regretted later. Because I didn’t have the need or feeling to “have” to do things when everyday adult situations would have called for it. So late in our lives we are still pretty much wandering through life. As a mom of a 12 year old I’m trying hard to not let my kid go down that same path but with certain family members who think giving him everything he wants and continually try and do things for him make it hard to accomplish.
When with tribe I just listening them talking, most time I get exhausted by hearing them, especially when they talk at the same time about their individual stories and information, but still, I survive
Omg,its hard question, cause personally my day depends on days or weeks before. If I have to work or have several plans, I wake up at 5;5:30;6:00, always drink 0,5ml of cold water,do 10min exercises, listen to music or watch one episod of any tv series,have breakfast and drink coffee. I often in depression mode so can wake up later but all the same do exercises cause my body will feel like in the morning😅 and i like when all my plans are done well amd finished,cause i am frustrated ans sad wneh my work without any global or personal sense. But i always thought that i am weak and whining mold😂 however I HATE when anyone call me weak and think themselves stronger in spirit way than me.
"it's not what they say they do, what are they actually doing?" aren't those kinda the same? the way i see it, that is under the idea that "people tend to notice the opposite." i am having a hard time putting it into words, but i hope you get it. so now my question is, "what if the person has just some sort of high awareness or something.." that what he/she is saying what he/she is actually doing? i don't know.. is that just a possibility? or is that a rule of thumb?
because, when i tried to answer the question, i think i would go like "i don't think i'm doing anything at all, i'm just there inside my room, or if outside, under a tree contemplating about abstract stuff, bla bla.., i also have a hard time getting stuff done.." isn't that kinda sounds like an Se inferior? i'm an INFJ 5w4 by the way, is it possible that i am actually ESTP?
Good example. And yes.
00:38 'Backwards'...yes, and
"In my next life I want to live my life backwards.
You start out dead and get that out of the way.
Then you wake up in an old people's home feeling better every day.
You get kicked out for being too healthy, go collect your pension, and then when you start work, you get a gold watch and a party on your first day.
You work for 40 years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement.
You party, drink alcohol, and are generally promiscuous, then you are ready for high school. You then go to primary school, you become a kid, you play.
You have no responsibilities, you become a baby until you are born.
And then you spend your last 9 months floating in luxurious spa-like conditions with central heating and room service on tap, larger quarters every day
and then Voila!
You finish off as an org*sm!"
- Woody Allen
@LiJo this is once again, really terrific conte*nt.
and because science minds gonna science, have you ever heard of the True Mirror?
"John Walter calls himself an artist and “re-inventor” of the True Mirror. It is simple physics, there is even a mention of such a device in a Greek text around 40AD, and a Catholic priest patented the idea in 1887.". from Scienceandnonduality October 2014.
The True Mirror - A Reflection of our True Nature
Physical Sciences.
🦋
Bonus points for Indie si*tting on the couch.
Her ears...rofl!
I was watching her and thinking 'Lijo, please say something like 'sausage'.'
Ahh thank you WM!! I haven’t heard of the true mirror previously but now I have ☺️
And you’re right Indie would love to hear ‘sausage’ by the end of that video. 🤣
oh this is very interesting! i have a friend who i am quite sure is probably an ENFJ, but he's quite sure he's an INFP. i understand why he's confused, but having known him for so long combined what i know about MBTI and my own personality and how he and i interact, etc., i am just certain he's a ENFJ, but a kind of unhealthy one.
I fell the same way about myself to be honest. I think I am an INFP but everyone says I'm more extroverted than I think and that I always come to peoples aid and give advice, but I don't see myself as charismatic as ENFJs usually come off as. I find myself a lot of times shutting myself down to the world when I have overextended and have helped/counciled a lot of people. I do know that I am XNFX because I feel everything. Another thing is that I love INFPs and like bringing them out of there comfort zone and watching them grow. I remember everyone's names and check in often. IDK any thoughts?
@@ikeb770 that sounds like an ENFJ to me. even extroverts need alone time, and i've read ENFJs especially need that because of all the FE-ing they do.
the trouble with others' opinions, which are of course very helpful, is that they would tend to see more of our extroverted functions, because by default, the introverted functions don't show that much.
what helped me to decide on my type is reading about the type in times of stress. seeing the worst of myself all written out like that really made it click.
so, i'd read about that, and examine the "loop" the types get into, that first and third function loop that you can get all caught up in, and that the second function will relieve.
for my friend, he says what is positive for the INFP appears (to him at least) as negative traits for the ENFJ. so, he *decided* he should be an INFP. not a great way to go about it. i think he just needs to be honest with himself.
also, i've read that ENFJs would be the type to be more likely to be confused about themselves, since they spend so much time thinking about others and might confuse themselves with them.
Ayo, can you help me clarify if this sounds like any particular type:
I usually wake up, don't plan for anything, act impulsively on my whims and try to be done with my compulsory daily rituals like satisfying my sensory stimuli with music and watching some naughties. Even at work or when I was in between stressful classes, I would feel a lot better when I took a break to go to a corner and indulge in sensory stuff.
When leaving home after having a comfortable and chill breakfast, reading up on stuff etc. I put on my headphones and don't pay attention to other people except recognizing where are they located, how many people are near me, are they moving fast or slow, are there any threats etc. but I do pay attention to roads, objects, animals. If the weather is okay, I hop on an electric scooter and effortlessly zig zag between cars and people. When I arrive at my destination, if it's going to be a stressful situation I do another ritual beforehand to get myself comfortable.
Here is the funky stuff: I get really emotional when I'm conversing directly with people and by that I mean I get really excited and tense. Sometimes I excessively obey emotional stimuli like if someone is asking for a very normal request like "hey can you grab that for me" and my brain treats it like an objective that should be completed as fast as possible, usually delivered with an emotionally frozen, mechanical and nervous way. It's only after the person acts warm and kind to me that I get back to normal. People give me a lot of intense energy, even though I look calm and chill you can literally feel the tension with me doesn't matter if it's a friendly banter or competitive aggresive energy with other males, the tension starts to go up until it reaches a peak and only after that it gets back to normal.
By the sounds of what I described above and according to many tests, Fe is my weakest function. However, many tests seem to put me in INTJ, ENTP and sometimes ESTP. As far as I know myself, I don't get energized when alone in fact, I'm very down and almost sleepy when I'm home alone. I get electrified like a light bulb when I'm talking to people I really like. I still have left over energy even when I get home and think about it. So, I don't know if Fe is my inferior or not since Ti is not my dominant. My Se is also really strong and feels natural, I'm very physical as well and my first gut insinct is solving things with sheer force like hitting gadgets or standing up to people.
i'm sure that i'm 6w5 sx/so 614 and before knowing this enneagram on mbti i'm an introverted intuitive but after knowing enneagram i ve got no clue to know my mbti type suddenly the whole mbti types maches with me in their interacting with enneagram 6 , so how could ik?(2,3 days ago i saw an article about all mbti types with enneagram 6 and i was mostly esfp 6and that shocks me bc in average i'm not an esfp at all)
Actually kind of same. I'm enneagram 6 sx/sp ENTP, kinda balanced wings, 639 or 631. My very first typing choice used to be INFJ since I thought I really fit an intuitive with Ti-Fe axis judging functions. My enneagram made me more careful about danger related to unlimited amount of novelty, slightly less adaptable and more planning based than average NeTi. I, overall, am giving very strong IxFJ first impression vibes. It was through interaction with actual xxFJs, enneagram research and more unbiased cognitive functions infos that I've decided I'm actually an Ne dom.
Hello there, we have almost the same personality. 6w5 sx 641 here. Thought I was ISFP or INFJ for a long time! Pretty sure that my perception axis is dominant Ni and inferior Se, but still not sure about my judgement axis.
Great vid!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Rin !
My average day has become an efficient pattern of tasks that allows me to conserve brain power for things that deviate from said pattern....
Nice approach!
So.... I MIGHT BE AN ISTP not an INFP???
How did you know you were an INTJ?
I wonder if people typing themselves backwards are new to personality types or new to knowing themselves lol
To summarise: Show, don't tell
Don’t mind me, just here for the Se
Yeet Yeet 🤗
@@InternetLiJo speaking of upside down. When I consciously choose to play with the tribe, set the vibe and ultimately get over my own self importance, boy do I feel better and complete. Work those lower functions people
@@daviddabrowski01 hell yes 👆🏼
First one looks like ISFJ and the second ENFP
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@@tentzz é verdade esse bilete
Yikes the Fi trying to tell it's own story...
😬🤣
@@InternetLiJo You know I am right xD
def person b
Wondering what types would love cobra kai... n understand their life now thru perspectives sooo much more on a deeper level... love those meaningful inspiring shows💞
n what types would love trailer park boys... what types just wants to shutt off that show its way tooo much for them... netflix hit shows
Haven’t seen them but interesting thought!
Wanna see you wearing heels 😉
An interesting take on this. It makes sense that we'd be naturally focusing on what we are trying to improve about ourselves rather than on what comes easy for us or just sort of happens when we aren't trying too hard to be an 'ideal' person.
My life is a rather jumbled mess at the moment, so how I do my day to day right now maybe isn't the best example of who I really am. I've had to quit my full-time away from home job due to health problems and am doing several different freelance jobs, mostly from home now. It requires me to be a lot more flexible in how I spend my time than I'm used to and I'm still trying to get used to it.
When my life now isn't being disrupted by doctors' appointments, blood tests, body scans, etc. (which seems to be happening way more often than it ever has in my life), I wake up about 4 AM without needing an alarm clock because my bladder takes care of that :). Then, I go out on my apartment's patio and check to see if my (currently) ten potted plants need watered, deadheaded, pruned, etc. and to enjoy a bit of fresh air before the desert heats up (Yes, I'm still in the t-shirt and boxer briefs that I usually sleep in. My patio has walls rather than railing, so there's a bit of privacy out there). Next, I go to the kitchen and get a glass of water. I use that tap because it's the one that has an under-sink water filter hooked up to it. I don't eat anything unless my wife's up by that time and insists that I have some of the breakfast she's making. I never feel truly hungry until about 10 AM or so. Sometimes, I get so wrapped up in what I'm doing that I'll ignore such feelings almost all day, but I do drink plenty of water. My health condition has some fun symptoms including feeling thirsty all the time.
On Wednesdays, I get dressed and make my rounds with clients for whom I do professional gardening and handyman tasks. They are people who enjoy their gardens but can no longer take proper care of them due to health problems. My grandma was my first and still is my main client, but I have several others now. Sometimes, it takes both Wednesday and Thursday to get around to them all if there's a lot to do at some of the properties. As much as I enjoy working on computers and writing, sometimes those jobs stress me out, but I always find working in lawns and gardens relaxing. Sometimes, I'll volunteer to help with the landscaping at our church, or at my wife's school. When I was working away from home, I'd also help out with the landscaping around the store or office that I was working in.
I generally turn my computer on next and check my emails. Now that I have a true smart phone (I've been one of those flip phone 'dinosaurs' for years now. I never buy something until I'm completely convinced that it's actually a good idea, something I really need and the one I'm buying is the best one that fits my budget. It's taken years of studying smart phones to finally convince me to give them a try), I occasionally check my email on that. I prefer having a larger screen to look at though, so I still use my desktop PC most of the time when I'm home. If there's nothing in my emails that I need to take action on right away, I check my social media accounts (I have one on five different platforms) to see what's happening. I check the notifications first to see if anyone I know on there is contacting me about anything that I should act on. I get a lot of my contacts for freelance editing projects through social media - especially Facebook and LinkedIn. If there's nothing I need to act on right away, I respond to a few posts from people whom I especially like to keep in touch with. I keep a typed list of people who don't always show up on my social media platforms' 'walls' that I check to see what they are up to. I also have typed and printed out list of phone numbers, email addresses, and the passwords for my websites, which I update regularly. The more I learn about technology (and I know a lot about it), the less I trust it.
Usually by this time, I've either found a new project that I need to get started on, or I decide to make more progress on a project that I've already started. Doing the actual work of writing new content, editing my rough drafts, or editing something for a client will usually take up most of the rest of my day until my wife comes home from the school where she teaches around 6 or 7 PM. Sometimes, if I'm not too engrossed in what I'm doing, I'll notice that I'm hungry and will have a light lunch. I'll also take breaks about every two or three hours during this time because my back and hips start hurting if I sit too long. During those breaks, I'll do household chores such as taking out the trash (if this needs done, I'll get dressed to do it), doing the dishes or laundry, or cleaning some part of the apartment. My wife says that one of the biggest adjustments she's had to get used to after marrying me was learning to be neater and more organized since I keep such a clean and neat house. She learned early on that her habits of just leaving things all over the place and not cleaning up messes right away was driving me nuts.
Sometimes, all the chores are done for the week, so I'll get dressed and go for a walk outside. While I'm walking, I'm usually talking to myself and letting my mind wander off into all sorts of different daydreams like I have ever since I was a little kid. There were days when I'd spend my free time just sitting in my room daydreaming or drawing what I was daydreaming about.
While I'm doing these chores, I'll listen to music or watch a RUclips video about one of the many topics I'm interested in: personality type, hyperparathyroidism (one of the health problems I'm struggling with now), depression, video games, movies (not the actual movie itself, but a review, behind the scenes featurette, or discussion of it), book reviews, gardening, technology, etc. Sometimes, I'll feel like playing a video game (not nearly as often as I used to because I have a harder time concentrating now and my muscles ache all the time), so I'll play a few short games on one of my many game consoles, or part of a longer game on my PC.
When my wife comes home, I have supper with her and listen to her talk about her day and/or whatever's on her mind - usually problems with coworkers, concerns about students, what's coming up next that she'd like my help with, etc. I don't speak much during these conversations: I mostly listen. If she wants me to respond, she's learned that she usually needs to ask me to. Then, we watch something together, usually the evening game shows like Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune. Sometimes, we'll also watch a cooking competition show or a documentary. By the time those are over, she goes to bed if its a weekday. She might stay up a bit past 9 if it's a Saturday.
I used to be a major night owl and would stay up until 2 or 3 AM, but my health conditions wear me out now, so I'm usually in bed, or falling asleep on the couch by 10 or 11 myself. I usually read myself to sleep these days. I have a decent sized home library of books about everything from botany to world history, with fiction books of sci-fi, fantasy, mysteries and superheroes to add a bit of fun. I find that I need to read or play a game on one of my portable gaming systems to wind my mind down in the evening. My body might be exhausted, but my mind is still going full speed until I calm it down by focusing on one of those things.
I used to have a lot of short-term goals and one long-term major goal, but now that I'm so sick, my only long-term goal is to either get cured from my illnesses, or at least find something that'll make living with them more bearable. It's even possible that the worst illness I have could kill me if I don't have surgery for it in the next few years, so I'm not nearly as concerned about winning the 'rat race' or achieving some lofty lifetime goal anymore. If you had told me when I was in college, or in the early stages of my former career as a conservation consultant for the USDA that someday, I'd no longer care about that, I'd have thought you were crazy. I used to live for that job. I was as passionate about it as my wife still is about teaching K - 2nd grade. Today, however, I've let it go. I just can't deal with the pressure and stress of working like that. Maybe after I have a surgery, or they find a medication(s) that'll relieve my symptoms, I'll have the energy to care about a career again.
I'm not sure what this says about my true personality, but it does seem at times like I'm not myself anymore.
Not sure what it says about your personality, but I find your writing skills very impressive. I can't believe I just read that entire comment and I actually enjoyed reading it. Totally held my attention that whole time and I was somewhat disappointed that it eventually ended. Anyway, I wish you the best possible outcome with your medical issues.
@@mattvecc187 Thanks! I appreciate it.
Si dominant.
@@xaisthoj It's an interesting idea. I'll think about it.
Self-Aware Yeets.
Heck yeah