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Our fleet is already lacking in numbers and then accidents like these further deteriorate that number
This will atleast give a kick on the lathargic govt employees butts to speed up the procurement process.
With 40 aircrafts left and even if we take an optimistic availability rate of 70% still we have only 28 aircrafts available at any point of time....this is not sufficient for Vikramaditya and Vikrant
Well at least TEDBF will come. And even if it does not come, we can put additional orders for the jets we'll order for Vikrant
Availability would be around realistically speaking 55 % or so at best. Probably a bit lower.
Even Su30Mki will not have 70% servicibility
@@CatOfCulture before TEDBF, Super Hornets/Rafale will come
@@CatOfCulture it will take more than 10 years to be fully functional.
MiG-29 is an interesting case. On 1 hand IAF is happy with the jet and even impressed by its performance in LAC in 2020. Whereas on the other hand the navy is annoyed by the aircraft.
Performance may not take serviceability into account. Hence they are performance wise superior
@@lepepelepub12 in that case the retirement from 2027 is also only talk. Flying MiG-21 is a compulsion not choice. There's already a shortage of quantity so no choice but to fly them until sufficient replacement is available. Some of the older MiG-29 were inducted in the 1980s so safe to assume their airframe life is nearing its completion. Air Chief already said additional MiG-29 are necessary.
@@lepepelepub12 sure see you 5 years later.
Performance is not the issue availability is
Many have a question why Indian Navy doesn't want Single engine Tejas on Vikrant . That's because it takes lot of stress on one engine when the entire aircraft that lands and takes a cable in order to stop the entire aircraft before it reaches it's landing end . If it's unable to catch the cable , there won't be enough thrust to send it into air because there is no elevation on landing side . That's why all deck based fighter jets are twin engine, except F 35 and Sea Harrier which does vartical landing instead of STOBAR mechanism.
Its the takeoff which puts a lot of pressure on the engine. Catobar and Emals reduce that stress on the engine and hence better.
Stobar has this disadvantage.
But i think US Navy uses F-16 from its aircraft carriers. What about that ?
@@subhasishhore1575 are u mad??
F16 is only used by air forces
F 35 C variant which is used by US navy doesn't have vtol capabilities but is considered better than type B vtol variant which is used by the marines.
@@abyyy490 yep they prefer F 18 . Cost effective, better availability and massive payload . F 18 could have been a good choice for Vikrant but USA is absolutely not reliable.
Indian Navy must give orders of Tejas NP-5
It can easily get fit in Vikramaditya & Vikrant
1 US engine is better than 2 Russian engine
Sir main culprit is it's engine here which is RD 33MK an enhanced variant of base klimov RD 33 engine, remember it's another variant, RD 93 is used in Ladaka Tayyara (JF17) you can check and currently they're also struggling with the same engine problem. Better to replace RD 33 with another engine.
Laddaka tyara means fighter jet in urdu if u dont know+PAF is satisfied with the performance of rd93,however we are considering to get the rd93ma variant or the ws13e to improve the TWR on the block 3 variant
@@proudpakistani4174 lol you want to change rd93 with Chinese ws13 which have 300 hours TBO? really? lol
@@xyz-iz2kf i never said we are going to "change" it with the ws13, we just considered it just like malaysia considered tejas but went for the fa50 instead
Currently the rd93ma and the ws13E(upgraded variant of ws13) are the favourites to power the block 3 however the first jets which have been inducted are still using the rd93 engines
And could u please tell me the source of the 300 hour tbo bcz this just seems ridiculous
The main reason is mig-29k right from the design stage especially the aircraft's airframe has not been designed to be ruggedized enough to withstand hard carrier deck landing and take-off.
One possible solution for these is use of 360° or 3 dimensional vectored thrust capabilities similar to mig-29ovt version by fitting thrust vectoring nozzles to the present engines thus allowing it for lower landing and take-off speed
giving it a STOL(shorter take off and landing) capabilities and also thus reducing aerodynamic stress on the aircraft airframes during take off and landing but the flip side of it would be an added weight due to vectored thrust nozzles at the tail.
Такой двигатель будет гораздо дороже т сложнее и тяжелее, с планером самолета все в порядке.Все зависит от того что захочет заказчик.Почему у ВМФ России таких проблем нет
@@BBCRF it looks like either Russian or ukranian .
@@sigma-sigma1 use translate
Bhai jab ins vikrant me mig29k consider nahi karna tha to ins vikrant ka lift itna chota kyu banaya gya?
Because ins vikrant lift was made for lca navy.
@@joydas-yu6tx navy rejected LCA long ago
@@joydas-yu6tx Nope
@@DeepNaskar11 yeah LCA navy was rejected and TADBF project is ON
Kisi Babu ki hogi marzi
Hope the TEDBF comes and comes in time. If not then we'll have to place additional orders of the ones we're already ordering for the Vikrant.
Hope we don't buy any more of these Mig 29Ks. They're already such a big headache and people suggest buying more. There's a reason they're cheap, it's so that the Russians can get their money back through the spare parts.
Indian govt employees are allergic to the "on time" concept.
@@vikasbiliye5023 For real man.
@@vikasbiliye5023 😂😂 Indians!!
Paf k pas 144 jf17 hy or rd33 ka ek variant rd93 use kar rahi hy 2007 sa ab tak 4 crash hue hy or ap logo ka double engine hy or 2012 sa 45 ma 5 crash hua bahi baat hy maintenance ki jo india ki bohat buri hy
🥱🥱🥱 Since its operational induction in 2009, downings have been all too common. In 2012, Pakistani media recorded a string of 12 crashes over 18 months, among which were several JF-17s. In August last year, another newly built dual seat model crashed only a year after being made and 96 hours of flight time, according to Pakistani newspaper Dawn. Your propaganda work only in your country understand. 🤧🤧🤧 Keep dreaming. 😴😴😴
Also 40% are grounded
@@DeepNaskar11 in your dream peshawar air base ma ek squadron jf17 ka hy or subha sa rat ki 12 baja tak 50 sa zayada bar fly karta hy bahi Jan apni media sa bahar nakalo
@@uzairkhalil8251 🥱🥱🥱 Crash report published by your own news paper and 40% grounded report published by Greek media also.
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Operating a Russian Twin engine aircraft which crashes even now and then, opens a window for LCA Tejas Naval version which has a 6000+ hours of incident free sorties in lieu of the airforce variant . Personally i think that considering 20-25 LCA navy for INS Vikramaditya and opting an American or French twin engine naval fighter for INS Vikrant is a good move.
it is a single engine aircraft but it can be considered though
I think 24 Naval version of tejas can be inducted for both INS Vikramaditya and INS Vikrant
and navy should also purchase 26 Fa 18 Super Horner to operate till Tedbf Induction
Would be happy even if they buy 12 of them
It is always a bad idea to operate delta wing single engine fighter on a carrier....
A single engine aircraft on a carrier? Lets not kid ourselves.
@Abhijeet Kundu VTOL vs STOBAR are we having that debate now? Cuz the Harrier and F35 are only single engine ik that have naval variants for a reason, plus Tejas was quoted to have "below satisfactory thrust".
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Can we at least make up for lost Mig29K by acquiring say 8/10from Russia as they may not be used by them much with no active air craft carrier
The only way we can resolve this is to develop and use CATOBAR system as it frees the aircraft from requiring high thrust to weight ratio. This way we might be able to operate using existing single engine aircraft to say the least, meanwhile we work on TEDBF.
S.Korea signs MOU with pakistan for defence technology & equipments. This is the result of India's non-alignment policy😧
Sir can we buy old f18 hornet from America for ins Vikramaditya?....they are even smaller than super hornet and rafal and mig 29..they have 2 engin and USA is adding gallium nitrite redar in them....we will also get engin commonality also with ge engin
If the babus can do with that there will be no MMRCA 2.0, no MRFA.
Shows the level of reliability and quality of ruski jets. No wonder many of the advanced nations and militaries avoid Russian equipment.
They might be cheap but are compromised on quality and reliability ✌️
They’re quite shit equipment. Soviet Union was a different time. But Russia nowhere close to as powerful nor as technologically advanced as the soviet union. It’s smarter to procure equipment from France or Israel rather than Russia.
@@boejiden7093 Russia lost most of it's manufacturing prowess because most of it's resources came from Ukraine and Belarus, and so did a lot of the factories. A lot of oil came from Azerbaijan. The communist system was changed to a capitalist oligarchy, but it never really caught on as much as it did in the US.
i am agree.. Indians have soft heart for russia but in reality russian aiecrfts are inferior.
@@AshishVerma-dz9ug Russian jets are good but not their engines.
Russian equipment is junk we see it on Ukraine nothing works
Ist not possible to upgrade avionics of the MiG29 K ?.. not an expert, however feeling is that Russian avionics are not upto the mark..
Russians have never been good at the avionics side , one problem that occurs while upgrading the avionics is the mission computer. If we had to an upgrade to the avionics then starting from the mission computer we need to develop everything from scratch. It is because we have upgraded avionics for airforce mig 29 but those will not be suitable for naval mig 29. The second things is the integration of all the systems and missiles and a new flight control system. Even if we develop all these it will take minimum 10 years for them to be operational. Instead buying new aircraft is more feasible.
Thank you
Navy always had worst record in handling carrier Bourne fighters, earlier half of the fleet of Harriers were crashed.
It's not there fault they were draging those 80s fighters till mid 2000s how do you expect them to Keep them surviving if government at that time was not giving funds to Navy at all.
@@vipulsingh1828 80's fighters??? Sea Harriers complete their first flight in 1978 so technically those are 70's fighters.
@@vipulsingh1828 Modi bhakt spotted.... no wonder that's why you guys are notorious, blaming last government as if current government doing something great. Well nothing have changed after MOdi came into power it became worst then earlier.
@@crimsonfury7811 for your kind information I am AAP supporter.
And for Modi bhakt term I am only bhakt of lord Krishna I don't want to be bhakt of some stupid human.
and about can you please tell me what have become worst since NDA government ?
Make in India?
Indegeous production
Supporting Private firms in weapon manufacturing .
Procuring local weapons exporting them.
Supporting them , sorry brother I don't agree with NDA on many things but make in India is one of few things this government has done something usefull for our own system and armed forces atleast we won't see the statement like we did in Doklam Clash that India have only 54 days of ammuniation.
Atleast we have our homegrown systems can mass produce them anytime.
And sorry brother even if we don't like some government but not everything can be wrong in a regime like UPA was one which introduce the IT industry to India. They did good job in it.
Atal bihari vajpayee regime did great job in making us nuclear state.
Indira Gandhi my personal Fav if she was here at that time we don't have to lost those soldiers at galwan & Kashmir valley.
@@DeepNaskar11 brother you can take it in any sense only 2 years of gap.
They were fully inducted in 80s.
So, well we have to agree India should try to make something like that F-35B tried to copy that but it's a maintenance disaster .
Harriers were low space acquiring still powerpacked aircarfts even USA purchase some of them.
Hope something like that will show up again. It is preety useful in all case no headache for landing. By arrested wire.
Muje tho hal ke maintenance facilities ko check karna chahiye kya kar rahe hai vo log hamare kuch jada he aircraft crash ho raha hai
Great information
IAF should place order for FA18 super hornets 💪💪
SH will definitely be selected. But ig Navy is negotiating the terms. Still this is much better than the Air Force. Kudos to the Navy honestly.
@@CatOfCulture I think Navy should order atleast 48 Foreign aircrafts and 24 Naval varient of Tejas to Operate from INS Vikrant and Future Ins Vishal
Because we all know Tedbf isn't gonna inducted before 2032
for foreign fighter it can be Fa 18 super hornet for Ins Vikrant and atleast 22 Rafale M for Ins Vishaal (future)
IN* 🙄
@@PS-ug7nm ?
This why USA has vertical tack off F35 B Aircraft, TEDBF should be VTOL
Bhut sahi bole
Time to select F18 super hornet and boost TEDBF
Finding a middle solution would be to deploy 20-25 Tejas Naval variant aircrafts and balance MIG29K. 1 squadron can be adopted by the IAF for time being. Rest can be swapped when TEDBF is inducted.
Bhai sahi bol rhe
That means that they designed Aircraft carrier just to operate Mig29k… didn’t they think of future usage ?? What if raffles are chosen (doesn’t fit on lift) when Americans are becoming too cosy with Pakistan
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Bhai ye 40 k 40 load kr k vikrant carrier pe gawader k qareeb bhejdo please
also fun fact both Rafale M and F 18 cam operate from the carriers in service with France and US Rafale can operate from nimitz so can F 18 from charles de gaulle isnt that impressive
If Navy isn't serious, neither should we!
India should close deal with fa18 super hornet
At least pilots were safe
Rafale doesnt even fit on vikrant's lift. I dont know what is taking so long for them to place orders for FA18
USA might do the same as they are doing to Saudi . They can stop spare parts any time and blackmail us .
@@satyamevajayate7263 they wont. USA is India's strategic partner.
@@satyamevajayate7263 to counter chinese Navy, USA will want to make IND navy as strong as possible
@@AmongUs-qt3uo to counter india they use Pakistan
Jai hind
what will be the timeline of tedbf? when we can see the first prototype and what is its current progress? plz make a dedicated video on this.
Why can't we change the dimensions of the lifts
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Order bloody 50-something F18 for navy ASAP
Can't because we might have same problem what Saudi is facing. Rafale is better choice. France is little bit more reliable than USA.
Speed our own TADBF project so that we can fulfill our needs
Russia should I thing sell the mig 29 technology to India for some amount and there after India makes it, modifies it with required indigenous technology or may be Isreali and easy maintenance.
how only Indian navy main crash hota hain Russian navy main only two crash hoa hain is it not because the f18 report is pending with Indian government to pressure to buy American Aircraft?
Sabse baadi problem hai Spears ki. Ek baat aur technology transfer me Russian problem karte hai. Inn aircraft ki ab age bhi ho gayi hai
Mig 21best
personally in my opinion
indian Govt ko mig 29k ToT Russia se kharid Lena chahiye aur ussee apne hisab se modification karna chahiye including engine.
TEDBEF ko INS Vishal k liye design karna cahiye.
time aur paisa R8 direction Mai utilities hoga
What is the availability rate for su30mki?
Russia used cheap materials for jets that sell so that they can get huge amount for Survice of fighter jet...
India will Never buy FA 18 due to the conditions that will be set by america. The best option could be rafale because it will not come with certain conditions. All your future fighter jets are on the paper. #Defencematrix Are you 100% sure that your future fighter jets will be completed on time. By looking at the ground report still your airforce and navy is not able to choose a fighter jet for their respective squadrons despite having a luxrious options.
Why Navy is waiting for signing deal of naval jet with USA all test has been already done. Rafale jet can't fit in Navy aircraft.
Sir Tejas ko kyon maoka nahi diya ja Raha hai
The Navy doesn't want a single-engine fighter.
Tejas is a single engine fighter and navy need a duble engine fighters. Nevy test Tejas in past but Navy not satisfy with Tejas performance.
Because it will have a single engine and very low payload capacity after being operated off a STOBAR carrier. Hope this clears your doubt.
BTW usse ek mauka diya gaya tha, but the trials were unsatisfactory.
Single engine aircraft is dengerous for aircraft carrier. It take lot of stress on one engine when the entire aircraft lands and takes a cable in order to stop the entire aircraft before it reaches it's landing end . That's why all deck based fighter jets are twin engine except F 35 and Sea Harrier which does vartical landing .
F18 kharidne ke paise nhi, Mig29k, Rafale M compatible nhi, Tejas N lenge nhi😅
F/A18 is cheaper than Rafale M so that can't be the reason
The two good news are that first pilot is safe and second is probability of MRCBF being executed on time as a result of crash of pig 29k
Mig 29k should not be used ins vikrant and vikramadithiya not bring able to use no other plane except mig 29k means india definitely needs a new carrier,navy should make larger lift next time should not make lift just for ond type of plane so that it can be replaced with new plane
Situational Awareness 😎😁
Sir Kay isa crash me human error ho sakta hai
Where do you get the footage
kyu nahi chahiye singil engin ?
Not struggling but sabotaging to get F-18s 😉
Navy should transfer the mig-29Ks to IAF and get f-18 . Will help dwindling strength of IAF. Win win for both services
transfer?? They can still use them from airstrips from Andaman islands
2 aircraft carriers both sharing the 32 aircrafts and 8 trainers meant for 1 carrier, that too an aircraft having low reliability. I don't know what in heaven's sake GOI and IN are waiting for to induct F/A-18 or Rafale. And why even after 6 years more Rafales or F/A-18 not ordered for IAF when 36 were ordered in place of 126.
😩 RUSSIAN jets maintenance problems engine problems whereas western jets especially us jets more better but full of restrictions and strings 😕.
producer russia is not using this aircraft,we must go for super hornets
Can't we take mig 35
04:06 really???????
Ek aircraft carrier or bna lena cahiye
Plane ho ya nahi usse kya he frk pdta hai
8-10 years for a carrier to be built. That's enough time to acquire 30 jets
laughs in mrfa@@muzzle_4717
Bhai india navy also had issues with sea hawks and harriers . The fighter was not operating from carrier also . So question should be on capability of our forces too .
For your information Sea Hawks and Harriers both has been retired from Navy
Harriers were notorious for their maintenance issues even in RAF. it was a VTOL aircraft with Crazy engine design..... Hawks had no issues in Indian Service
@@DeepNaskar11 for ur information only 11 of 40 procured survived .
@@heyman8762 yup they did check out their history with IN .
Bruh the Harriers were Vtol aircraft which notoriously require much more servicing. Comparing that to a normal twin engine jet is simply foolish.
How could you say that this is 6th crash but the defense squad channel told that this is 4th crash now tell me who is speaking truth?😱🧐🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
There is a simple solution.
You tell the navy to get commonality with IAF, something which they are resisting without any logical reason.
Order 2 squadrons of Rafale marine along with your MRFAs which will help keep Rafale marine’s cost down and you can also negotiate with Dassault for modifying Rafale M wing design to add a folding mechanism.
This stupidity has been stretched far too long with Indian navy being given a choice to test FA-18 in the first place.
This should’ve never happened.
Buy one jet for both IAF and INS.
The end.
Navy suffering but Not AF I believe.
LIFT ITNA CHOTA BANAYA HI KYU KYU KYU???????
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Now south korea sign MOU with pakistan bah!! Us ka phir se suru ho gaya...
This is the problem with the russian jets they are not reliable..marketing their jets cheaper than Western jets.and selling the crap.
Kya ko बड़ा नही किया जा सकता ???
you call spade an spade...most dalals dont even talk about problems with imported aircrafts specially russian ones. Mig29K served only 12 years and we lost 5 of them. it affects our carriers service also. Mig29k was a blunder!
TEDBF tu kab aaega re bava !!!
Mig 29 is next flying coffin. Russian junk
kuch nahai hoga you tuber ke chilane se Indian government is the final authority and we cannot kill TEDBF program they will bye more Mig 29k from existing Russian Navy
Why you keep saying it as a modern aircraft when we all know that it's an Russian made aircraft. It's not a western aircraft on which we can easily relay on it. All the modern countries are now setting back from Russian military equipments, why we can't. Do we need to show 1000 sacrifice to remove an aircraft fleet like mig 21. Please do not support these old aircrafts like Mirage, Mig 29 and Jaguar too. These are old aircrafts and although they are modified but still we need modern aircraft on time because we have huge threat from modern Rader and surface to air missiles and also other modern aircraft. Please do not support.
Jai Hind.
lmao
I really like mig29 such a beautiful aircraft, I often think why airforce and navy not even considering mig 35s since it's a 4.5++gen jet and considering it's cost and capabilities it's quite good of a deal. We are producing engines locally also. So in theory we could have got a good deal with mig. But than this type of incidents happens and these are like reality checks. But still I hope airforce's mig29 have better records.
Mig35 is Russian. We can't rely on Russia
😑😑😑 Su 35 is 4++ generation fighter.
After Mig29k upgradation in UPG standard thay also becoming 4++ generation fighter. The main problem crashes are Rd-33 engine.
Mig 35 is really mediocre. We can get our Mig 29 UPGs upgraded further to get the same performance.
The Rafale and F-15EX surpass the Su 35 and Mig 35 by far. And I mean far.
no more russian junk
Rip
Bsdk pilot safe he 😒😒
Kiska death nahi hua hai 😑
Bruh the pilot isn't dead.
Guys I think he referring the air craft not the pilot 😅😅😅
Rip for the plane....
Hahahahahahaha
Jf17 khatara ke 5 crashed hai what a record....
@@vimalkumar3815 actually not 5
🥱🥱🥱 Since its operational induction in 2009, downings have been all too common. In 2012, Pakistani media recorded a string of 12 crashes over 18 months, among which were several JF-17s. In August last year, another newly built dual seat model crashed only a year after being made and 96 hours of flight time, according to Pakistani newspaper Dawn.
Will Indian navy buy those 5 lost aircrafs for maintaining Gap..
Russia SU 29 Fleet.. Engine 41 ... ? @narendramodi 🤔
also fun fact both Rafale M and F 18 cam operate from the carriers in service with France and US Rafale can operate from nimitz so can F 18 from charles de gaulle isnt that impressive