Keep it mate! Settle down, settle in for the long run. The grass is always greener, and it is a male thing that you always want what you haven't got. Keep the bike dude, regardless to value. Pay off the loan, and once it's paid off put the money you were spending into an account, when the KTM dies you will saved enough to at least stick a deposit down on a newer bike.
***** the snag with used bikes today is there is little value in private sale. you can get a bike to commute on for £1500, with 12 months MOT and around the 20k miles on the clock, for example an old cbr 600f..... my point is.... if you have a bike that will do the job for commuting, just keep it, as you wont get a lot of money back when it comes to re-sale, or you will have your pants pulled down if you part-ex. Andy Man Cam had a fazer with over 60K on the clock, and so if you look after the bike, it will just keep going...... BUT!!! you will never - ever, be able to get away from the grass is always greener syndrome, it is written in every bikers DNA.
You should keep the bike if it's reliable and you like it. Eventually your payments will catch up and pass the worth. You don't lose out until you sell.
If you love the bike - keep it and ride it into the ground. Then new engine and repeat :D But if you want to keep it good, get a cheap commuter bike and leave the Cyclops for weekends and occasional commutes. e.g. you could add a slightly more expensive low-miler commuter to your fleet like a CB1000R that has the grunt, easy to ride and to add on your gear change shenanigan magic doodah bits. It would be a mile eater and decent build quality Nice jacket btw ;) :D
The problem is I already shifted my commuter (the drifter) to sunny days and events so the 990 is my commuter! If i then get a third bike as the others are two precious i may just have to answer some questions to 'her in doors' :)
Only just come across you mate so my two pennies on the Italian bikes you mentioned at the end are way late. Might be handy for future reference though. Iv put on 27,000 miles on my Diavel in just over two years. Yes tyres and brake pads are a tad on the expensive side. Servicing is way on the expensive side. But the intervals aren't bad at 7,500 miles. I don't know what BMW are? Yes electronics are shit, fixed corrosion on the headlight wiring twice and now my starter switch is starting to go (twice in my vids since I have been uploading on here and Iv only got four) Suspension on the Diavel is crap but I'm told on the multistrada it's awesome. If you can live with a few electrical niggles, the Italians are getting better. I think the multi and diavels character are well worth it. Engines are the absolute nutz! Except diavels a bit twitchy under 3k revs. The engine management system does help a bit.
ok although I have limited knowledge on the bikes you mentioned I can safely say this - yes to one of those bikes or maybe a different one :) so many reviews of bikes in one video awesome!! I c ur point though about replacing the ktm even though it sounds so good
If you want to change then I would recommend the Honda Varadero XL1000 :) Heard great reviews about them and planning on getting one after I pass my test :D If not build your own if thats possible? Use one frame and engine you like best and adapt :) If not just keep the bike and by the time it needs changing you could have the money to get another :D
LOL, very decisive !! but no hadn't looked at the honda, will do some googling!! Would also love to build a bike, but that would require a garage!! and not a flat in London :)
Just keep the one you've got sounds like you like it a lot nothings better out there. just keep yours and run it till its had enough then whatever you get for it is a bonus... In the meantime you could get an older cbr 600 or even 900 for about £1500 and use that to soak up the mileage when you dont want to use the KTM. Insurance and maintenance combined will be cheaper than changing bikes and taking a hit on your current ktm i reckon. Anyway peace!
Suggestions: (Keep that bike it's lovely) Triumph Tiger Sport 1050 Uhh... .... Ducati Multistrada 1200?! ^ absolutely stunning, incredibly powerful BUT can be very expensive - should be similar to the KTM Sorry if you mentioned them^ my phone decided it didn't like you and stopped half way through
considering that the millage amount you do doesn't change in the future. the depreciation argument isn't really valid since you would have the same problem with any bike? if it's reliable I'd say keep it.since it's depreciate more slowly as it becomes worth less xD?
I'm with the herd. There's no point in chopping your ride in every few months and taking a hit on depreciation each time; you're always going to put the same miles on whatever ride you have, so why pass on your lovely KTM to someone else to enjoy at a knockdown price? YOU may as well enjoy that bike. Whatever you do, you should upload more regularly. Love the vids mate.
Great. I love your uploads. I've just bought a Mana - your early vids helped me decide on the Aprilia. You never know; I may get an MT09 or KTM Adventure one day too. Ride safe mate.
I'm getting a bit old, a bit fat...a bit unhealthy LOL You should go all bike reviews. Comedic and brutally honest but you'd never be invited back to a bike launch. *LOUD COUGH* 1190
Damn! I somehow missed that you sold your MT-09! Must've slipped through my feeds. I did too by the way, got myself a GSX-R750. Fits my needs and my style perfectly, almost like it was made for me. Anyway, as per your question - the logical choice (if you know your current bike works and is reliable) would be to keep it and ride it until you no longer like it and want to ride something else. Any bike will lose its value over time and if you're doing loads of miles then the value of your next bike will depreciate too. This way you'll lose double the money - first by selling this bike which has already depreciated and then selling the "new" bike. If you keep riding this one, however, then it'll reach it bottom price at some point and won't depreciate any more. I mean, it's not going to suddenly miraculously cost £10 just because you've done 50k miles on it, will it? On the other hand, all modern bikes are reliable and no matter which one you get you shouldn't have any issues with them. Of course, an odd one here or there might have some problems but it's all minor issues and generally wheels don't fall off of them. If you have money to burn and don't want to ride the bike you have at the moment then go for it. A new bike is always exciting. If not, then stick with what you have and keep enjoying it while it works. That's my 2 cents :) P.S. I'd be interested to watch your test rides (Duke, Tracer) if you have the footage available. I see you used some shots from them in this video, was wondering if you have anything else worth sharing?
Hey due, you're definitely right, the 990 is a great bike, so perhaps i should just keep it...... but if i get a bonus then get a new bike LOL!! I guess a bike is a bike, and I've already had 5 in 2 years, so perhaps i should settle for a while!! I did record the other bike rides, but they weren't reviews or blogs, but i'll put some more in the next daily observations!!
crotchrocket I can see where you're coming from with wanting something new. I'm in a way the same - doesn't matter whether it's a bike, a tablet or a TV. I get bored of things quite quickly. I initially thought the same when I got the gixxer, that I'll probably keep it for a year and then get something else. Having ridden it for a while I've now half decided that I actually want to stick with it for a bit longer and have "my" bike, if that makes sense. There's always the getting used to period when you get something new, when the thing is not quite yours yet. I want to own it for longer so that I feel that it's mine and I think you should stick with your KTM too. Of course people are different but 5 bikes in 2 years is plenty so I'd say save yourself some money and keep riding something you like and already have and put your bonus in a savings account :)
Thoughts on the Tiger 1050 Sport? ;-) I'd keep it. That KTM sounds sweet and looks like it handles great. I had the Versys 650, it's not got a dodgy engine, just a bit vibey, but the new 650 fixes that apparently.
YEah i do like the look of the tiger sport, but then its always compared to the 990 SMT and the SMT always comes out on top.....which is the same engine as i already have !! :)
Interesting vid.I faced the same question recently and decided to keep it 'till it dies/gets too expensive.I would love a ktm adventure but refuse to get in debt so the old lovely vfr stays. For me you should keep this bike,ride it until things get expensive and it will help me decide what mileage s/h adventure i eventually get.Yes i am selfish.Sorry.
LOL! there are a few good 12 or 13 plate models about!! but i'd get an '09 model or later, it has a few refinements! the '12 model has the same engine as the ADV R ! so even better!
I'm +45k mileage on my Monster... I think with its Upright, yet SportBike position, L-twin torque, and Italian Beauty... You should Try before you Deny, lol 👍😜👌
You could try just eating pot noodles for the next 6 months...then you can get what the hell you want (apart from Rickets which is an unfortunate side effect of such solution)!
A couple of my mates have tiger 1050s & absolutley love them
Keep it mate! Settle down, settle in for the long run. The grass is always greener, and it is a male thing that you always want what you haven't got.
Keep the bike dude, regardless to value. Pay off the loan, and once it's paid off put the money you were spending into an account, when the KTM dies you will saved enough to at least stick a deposit down on a newer bike.
***** the snag with used bikes today is there is little value in private sale. you can get a bike to commute on for £1500, with 12 months MOT and around the 20k miles on the clock, for example an old cbr 600f..... my point is.... if you have a bike that will do the job for commuting, just keep it, as you wont get a lot of money back when it comes to re-sale, or you will have your pants pulled down if you part-ex. Andy Man Cam had a fazer with over 60K on the clock, and so if you look after the bike, it will just keep going...... BUT!!! you will never - ever, be able to get away from the grass is always greener syndrome, it is written in every bikers DNA.
Keep your current bike until it breaks down and dies
I love the standard KTM joke...even though I own one :D
Finnoctane i think you're confusing joke with fact, LOL !!
very good .. the roads around here are not as boas..não have seen to have lying around.
Plenty of info on loads of bikes you've been testing!
You should keep the bike if it's reliable and you like it. Eventually your payments will catch up and pass the worth. You don't lose out until you sell.
Tiger 800, you'll learn to love it. I'll make sure of it!
hmmm, when you getting one then??
Two and half years, when I've got a full licence ;)
If you love the bike - keep it and ride it into the ground.
Then new engine and repeat :D
But if you want to keep it good, get a cheap commuter bike and leave the Cyclops for weekends and occasional commutes.
e.g. you could add a slightly more expensive low-miler commuter to your fleet like a CB1000R that has the grunt, easy to ride and to add on your gear change shenanigan magic doodah bits. It would be a mile eater and decent build quality
Nice jacket btw ;) :D
The problem is I already shifted my commuter (the drifter) to sunny days and events so the 990 is my commuter! If i then get a third bike as the others are two precious i may just have to answer some questions to 'her in doors' :)
Only just come across you mate so my two pennies on the Italian bikes you mentioned at the end are way late. Might be handy for future reference though. Iv put on 27,000 miles on my Diavel in just over two years. Yes tyres and brake pads are a tad on the expensive side. Servicing is way on the expensive side. But the intervals aren't bad at 7,500 miles. I don't know what BMW are? Yes electronics are shit, fixed corrosion on the headlight wiring twice and now my starter switch is starting to go (twice in my vids since I have been uploading on here and Iv only got four) Suspension on the Diavel is crap but I'm told on the multistrada it's awesome. If you can live with a few electrical niggles, the Italians are getting better. I think the multi and diavels character are well worth it. Engines are the absolute nutz! Except diavels a bit twitchy under 3k revs. The engine management system does help a bit.
+Nudge & Dukey THe BMW services are 6k, and not particularly cheap. Ive had a couple of BMW;s now since this vid :) Thanks for watching!!
ok although I have limited knowledge on the bikes you mentioned I can safely say this - yes to one of those bikes or maybe a different one :) so many reviews of bikes in one video awesome!! I c ur point though about replacing the ktm even though it sounds so good
LOL, thanks dude!
I think If you really love the ride then keep it :P. Worse case scenario would be that you get another bike and you hate it haha
LOL, true man!
If you want to change then I would recommend the Honda Varadero XL1000 :) Heard great reviews about them and planning on getting one after I pass my test :D
If not build your own if thats possible? Use one frame and engine you like best and adapt :) If not just keep the bike and by the time it needs changing you could have the money to get another :D
LOL, very decisive !! but no hadn't looked at the honda, will do some googling!! Would also love to build a bike, but that would require a garage!! and not a flat in London :)
Clock it
Oi - nothing wrong with commuting on Italian bikes! I commute on the Falco and before this commuted daily on an RS250! Go test ride a Caponord 1200!
LOL, I guess my two Aprilias have set a bad tone and whitewashed italian bikes ! I'd love a thrash on an RS250
Seems like you only missed Capanord 1200... If it wouldn't be a victim of your Italian sterotype for sure..
Ride what makes your balls tingle. If it makes you happy then don't change it. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
LOL !!! makes perfect sense to me!
Just keep the one you've got sounds like you like it a lot nothings better out there. just keep yours and run it till its had enough then whatever you get for it is a bonus... In the meantime you could get an older cbr 600 or even 900 for about £1500 and use that to soak up the mileage when you dont want to use the KTM. Insurance and maintenance combined will be cheaper than changing bikes and taking a hit on your current ktm i reckon. Anyway peace!
Good thinking dude!! *heads of to shop for a 3rd bike
Suggestions:
(Keep that bike it's lovely)
Triumph Tiger Sport 1050
Uhh...
....
Ducati Multistrada 1200?!
^ absolutely stunning, incredibly powerful BUT can be very expensive - should be similar to the KTM
Sorry if you mentioned them^ my phone decided it didn't like you and stopped half way through
LOL, cheers dude!! all good options!
considering that the millage amount you do doesn't change in the future. the depreciation argument isn't really valid since you would have the same problem with any bike?
if it's reliable I'd say keep it.since it's depreciate more slowly as it becomes worth less xD?
LOL, true !!
You should keep it or buy a newer 990.
:) I am actually hoping to upgrade from the F800GS to Super tenere this year :)
good luck man, they are awesome!!
I'm with the herd. There's no point in chopping your ride in every few months and taking a hit on depreciation each time; you're always going to put the same miles on whatever ride you have, so why pass on your lovely KTM to someone else to enjoy at a knockdown price? YOU may as well enjoy that bike.
Whatever you do, you should upload more regularly. Love the vids mate.
yeah you do make a good point! It is a great bike and thanks, i'll try upload some more!! :)
Great. I love your uploads. I've just bought a Mana - your early vids helped me decide on the Aprilia. You never know; I may get an MT09 or KTM Adventure one day too.
Ride safe mate.
I'm getting a bit old, a bit fat...a bit unhealthy LOL You should go all bike reviews. Comedic and brutally honest but you'd never be invited back to a bike launch. *LOUD COUGH* 1190
Damn! I somehow missed that you sold your MT-09! Must've slipped through my feeds. I did too by the way, got myself a GSX-R750. Fits my needs and my style perfectly, almost like it was made for me.
Anyway, as per your question - the logical choice (if you know your current bike works and is reliable) would be to keep it and ride it until you no longer like it and want to ride something else. Any bike will lose its value over time and if you're doing loads of miles then the value of your next bike will depreciate too. This way you'll lose double the money - first by selling this bike which has already depreciated and then selling the "new" bike. If you keep riding this one, however, then it'll reach it bottom price at some point and won't depreciate any more. I mean, it's not going to suddenly miraculously cost £10 just because you've done 50k miles on it, will it?
On the other hand, all modern bikes are reliable and no matter which one you get you shouldn't have any issues with them. Of course, an odd one here or there might have some problems but it's all minor issues and generally wheels don't fall off of them. If you have money to burn and don't want to ride the bike you have at the moment then go for it. A new bike is always exciting. If not, then stick with what you have and keep enjoying it while it works. That's my 2 cents :)
P.S.
I'd be interested to watch your test rides (Duke, Tracer) if you have the footage available. I see you used some shots from them in this video, was wondering if you have anything else worth sharing?
Hey due, you're definitely right, the 990 is a great bike, so perhaps i should just keep it...... but if i get a bonus then get a new bike LOL!! I guess a bike is a bike, and I've already had 5 in 2 years, so perhaps i should settle for a while!! I did record the other bike rides, but they weren't reviews or blogs, but i'll put some more in the next daily observations!!
crotchrocket I can see where you're coming from with wanting something new. I'm in a way the same - doesn't matter whether it's a bike, a tablet or a TV. I get bored of things quite quickly. I initially thought the same when I got the gixxer, that I'll probably keep it for a year and then get something else. Having ridden it for a while I've now half decided that I actually want to stick with it for a bit longer and have "my" bike, if that makes sense. There's always the getting used to period when you get something new, when the thing is not quite yours yet. I want to own it for longer so that I feel that it's mine and I think you should stick with your KTM too. Of course people are different but 5 bikes in 2 years is plenty so I'd say save yourself some money and keep riding something you like and already have and put your bonus in a savings account :)
that screen on Tracer looks like it was undone. Mine doesn't move from side to side as on your video.
+Pawel Kisiel yeah that was weird!!
Thoughts on the Tiger 1050 Sport? ;-)
I'd keep it. That KTM sounds sweet and looks like it handles great.
I had the Versys 650, it's not got a dodgy engine, just a bit vibey, but the new 650 fixes that apparently.
YEah i do like the look of the tiger sport, but then its always compared to the 990 SMT and the SMT always comes out on top.....which is the same engine as i already have !! :)
Interesting vid.I faced the same question recently and decided to keep it 'till it dies/gets too expensive.I would love a ktm adventure but refuse to get in debt so the old lovely vfr stays.
For me you should keep this bike,ride it until things get expensive and it will help me decide what mileage s/h adventure i eventually get.Yes i am selfish.Sorry.
LOL! there are a few good 12 or 13 plate models about!! but i'd get an '09 model or later, it has a few refinements! the '12 model has the same engine as the ADV R ! so even better!
I'm +45k mileage on my Monster...
I think with its Upright, yet SportBike position,
L-twin torque, and Italian Beauty...
You should Try before you Deny, lol
👍😜👌
LOL. i do love Monsters! but then if i get a Ducati, its got to be the crazy ass multistrada!!
Will you post your test of the Yamaha Super Tenere ?
Love your videos
it wasn't really a review, just some on board footage
I see
You know what you need to do... the mt-09 calls.. tracer.
hmmm it is an option, but it just felt so cheap !
And it is cheap compared to the others isnt it?
Tough times :/
aint it just !
doesn't help that you're picky :p haha
Tracer or Tiger 800 xrx for me. Leaning towards the Tiger atm.
Yeah pretty different riding positions i think, the tiger is a great bike! the Tracer is the more sport orientated of the two!
crotchrocket totally. My legs were bent more on the Tracer. Love your videos :)
Buy another KTM or get the Super Tenere.
Go completely insane and buy a 990 SMR.
You could try just eating pot noodles for the next 6 months...then you can get what the hell you want (apart from Rickets which is an unfortunate side effect of such solution)!
haha!! Might actually be worth a shot though!! If i really wanted to save money, i'd give up beer,,,,,,,,
Have you tried the Honda crossrunner or the crosstourer?
No Mate, but have an issue with Honda's blandness !!
ah fair point :-)
Hi mate!
Have you had any problems with this ktm?do you still think it's good bike? I'm dreaming about 950/990 adv!
Hiya, yeah few issues with gearbox, cutting out engine and lots of maintenance. Bought a BMW instead...