Was Joe Budden Disloyal to Eminem? | The Joe Budden Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- After Royce da 5’9’s interview on Rap Radar, some are questioning Joe’s loyalty to Eminem. Joe responds to Royce and to those who believe he isn’t loyal.
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Joe listening to himself, repeating himself and agreeing with everything he says is so funny for some reason
Mimi lmaoooo
"I'm Rollin'"😂😂😂
Mimi Hahahah this nigga Joe kept saying “I agree” while listening to himself! Dudes crazy
Mimi he’s such a narcissist 😂
Bobba Sparx 😂
Joe having a full fledged conversation with a recording of himself is hilarious🤣🤣
“These joes ain’t loyal” Chris Brown
🤦😂
Solid I.N.C hahaha
😭😭
Solid I.N.C lmao
Lmao
Joe Budden is slow!! And his boys is sugar coating that they 100% disagree with him!!
That's right hahaha
They’re yes men
They scared because they know he will stop showing up if they don't agree or sugarcoat
G Marmol stop showing up? to his own podcast? u kinda slow lol
@@kinohill3978 joe budden is emotional he will quit like he did rap
Constructive criticism isn't sugarcoating. Friend or not. Honesty can be positive and negative. In the end, its just the truth. And delivery is important.
Arda Mus Joe accused Eminem of exploiting African American issues for profit while also claiming his label (also joes) dropped the ball on him. Yes, he was disloyal
Joe would've been mad if Eminem would've been in a Slaughterhouse studio session and said Joe Budden's music was "trash, trash, trash."
You misunderstood what i said. i got to the root what is being discussed. I basically agree with Royce. I get what Joe is saying but sugarcoating is different from constructive criticism.
Degenerett no he didn’t
Arda Mus true sugarcoating is straight up dancing around the truth and not having any honesty (or very small doses)
You gotta get Royce on the podcast man
Pancake Pancake get royce da fuck outta here
Daniel Hill I agree, but I've always respected Royce, so I really wanna see his response to Joe here
Pure Black No, I think Em is wack now too, but I want to hear what Royce would say to Budden's points that he made in this episode
Pancake Pancake He shouldn't have shit to say
Daniel Hill Joe says in this clip that he and Royce had this conversation in depth before the interview
LMAO when you ask am I disloyal and the people you pay take a pause that speaks volumes about you
“I wouldn’t say ‘disloyal’....”
That was the realest shit. I was like, damn this is not going the way Joe expected off top haha
@@caliking235 😂 right!!! I agree
Jason Barnes He doesn't pay them anything.
LOL this takes on a whole new meaning considering recent events
@@mannylopez8748 show me the accounting
I was with joe until he said he didn't hear the album...NIGGA WHAT ...WHAT IS THIS EVEN ABOUT THEN
lol.
snxttynozedoc prod. WHOLE FACTS. So the rollout was trash?? That's it??
exactly, the definition of a pumpus ass. lol
Agreed this guy, is a hater nothing more.
snxttynozedoc prod. It was mostly a response to Royce
What sucks is Joe was defending Em heavy and got slandered for that too. Can't win either way.
Ayesha Go. Ddf
Exactly!
Facts!!
ALPHA that was one song that Joe shared an opinion about everything else that was said about Em Joe wouldn't respond. AND if u know Joe then u know when he talks about stuff he's extra and theatrical at times lol
Yeah that's the part nobody wants to talk about it
Joes just a hard nosed vet, not a disloyal friend.
BLACK FLAG MAFIA 414 😁😁😁😁 414 stand up btw
🤣🤣🤣 “hard nosed vet” will forever be funny
Lmaooo real shit though
Joe listening to himself and consigning every comment is crazy
"Never let someone who's not as smart as You, gas You up, and tell You something you never knew, always stay professional, you always gon' make revenue, don't let people next to You, that don't want the best for You" Royce da 5'9" addressing Joe Budden - caterpillar
I'm a eminem fan but he needs to stop having yes man arond him. I don't think joe budden was disloyal
Annalise Zuidema Joe accused Eminem of exploiting African American issues for profit while also claiming his label (also joes) dropped the ball on him. Yes, he was disloyal
Eminem has also said in his rhymes that he and Dr Dre fuck each other, that he skins people, has a whole song about him murdering his wife.
Bottom line is, quoting Eminem lyrics doesn't really mean anything. Also saying that he became wealthy through black music (which is true) and "exploiting african issues for profit" are the same thing is crazy.., ESPECIALLY when you are talking about Eminem a person who's actions to give back to black culture and African American youth are well documented. (And not because he shouts his donations out either).
Royce/Budden in this very video said that they know Eminem is not that person. So what narrative are you trying to drive here?
Degenerett he did exploit the problems of black folk. He had 2-3 songs that was centered on that. On top of that, It wasn’t em’s best work by a long shot
You're a fucking idiot if you can't comprehend satire wittiness.
Annalise Zuidema fuck outta here he is disloyal and you are fake 2010 fan
If not being a yes man is being disloyal, i'll be one too. Em's album was trash and someone had to say it. Pretty funny none of his boys besides Joe said it.
Josh Ruiz Joe accused Eminem of exploiting African American issues for profit while also claiming his label (also joes) dropped the ball on him. Yes, he was disloyal
They said it in so many words. During a Sway interview, when asked about their favorites songs.... it took them a few seconds to answer.
Eminem would have never called Joe Budden's music "trash." Eminem is not that type of guy, that's why it rubbed him the wrong way.
It’s a difference between sayin you ain’t feeling somethin vs sayin it’s the worst fuckin shit u ever heard in ya life
Degenerett You must not have watched this video or that particular episode at all because he didn't say that about Eminem at all infact he gave him credit and blamed the labels
I’ve seen Joe get an attitude and try to shut mal and Rory down several times when they make solid points that he doesn’t agree with (especially points made about him) so he needs to take criticism better himself before he can expect someone else to
BC Taylor Exactly, but am I the only one who notices that Joe isn’t doing any of these talks by himself? He has two others just backing him up on everything
I was thinking the same thing; as soon as they say something he disagrees immediately and won’t take it how it’s dealt
BC Taylor he’s just arguing his point that’s how arguments go, they gotta be more aggressive
This is why button is where he is. Self righteous and can't be wrong. Nobody wants to work with that.
shut yall broke hatin asses up
I don't think Joe was ever loyal to Shady
good point.
u were right
Daryl you have an excellent point.
No it's pretty obvious he's just a pompous ass
@@toadill No he was a little loyal to him but in a hypocritical way. ... If u rewatch Shady cypher 2.0 Freestyle you'll see how he's kissing his ass , laughing to his face and telling him "you're the boss u better get them"
Everybody who told Eminem to release that garbage was disloyal, Joe keeps it real.
J-S!N/JerZy TV Super Facts
That shit was so trash. Nothing but stan white boys dick riding EM.
TheRealtalk617 not true. Royce ain’t white. I m white and a long time fan of hip hop and a lot of ems work, but this album was garbage
Joe would've been mad if Eminem would've been in a Slaughterhouse studio session and said Joe Budden's music was "trash, trash, trash."
TheRealtalk617 please don't make my facial tissue into a racial issue
Had To Watch This Cause Tomorrow Is Not Promised.
Feo 9acino good 1
I agree.
Full version on sound cloud every wensday
Damn bro you right
💯
Joe is just bitter because he played himself out of position!
Your right if quitting when nobody wanted him to is playing himself 😳
Man watch the damn interview
Joe’s opinion is just that HIS opinion, however, his delivery was a bit out of order. He was disrespectful at times during his review of the track list and he knows this.
I know right but he'll keep playing dumb like he don't know hes wrong.
Oduks93 everyone doesn’t talk about thing their passionate about in a chill manner some people are a little more aggressive
Naw no disloyalty just realness
The label was disloyal to eminem by letting him put that trash album out.
Krills Daily u people talking probably never heard the album
I've heard the album, i didn't like it. Sorry if that hurts your feelings, music is subjective. I don't have to enjoy something because you do and you don't have to dislike something because i do.
The album is not trash
Bitch the album is okay if not great you just hating
Krills Daily i bet if every tune had a beat that makes you bop your head you would be like "the album is dope" blah blah blah there is nothing wrong with the lyricism of the album at all. Just people nowadays think dope beats make a dope hip hop/ rap album man gtfoh with your shit criticism😂😂😂
Lol at his boys squirming when asked if he's disloyal. You can see the instant yes wash over their faces
It came across, Joe, like you were talking out of both sides of your mouth on the racial issue. Either Eminem was being a hypocrite or he wasn't. If he wasn't being a hypocrite but it was still offensive because of presentation then you're saying he's a puppet not in control of his career. Which isn't as bad as being a hypocrite but it's bad. Second, there is nothing constructive, mature, respectful or intelligent about describing a song as "trash" or "garbage." That's not truth, it's schoolyard. It's not brutal honesty to anyone older than 12. It's a gratuitous insult. And you're a very smart man with a big brain and extensive vocabulary and you don't have to use petty, insulting words regarding a song with thought, intention and a concept behind it.
Just heard the Untouchable song the song is super FIRE and could’ve been HUGE and IMPACTFUL. Don’t know what jo was smoking to hate so hard on this
The shady group chat now has 2 passwords and a secret handshake
MayoKryptonite no need for it. Joe got removed from the group chat years ago 🤣
sounds shady to me
Ironic how both his friends are walking on egg shells around Joe.... hmmm
Makaveli Disciple they’re actually keeping it a band with joe🤦🏾♂️ what the hell are you watching🧐
And Parks was dead silent.
they're silent because they are close to Royce, especially Parks and Mal. It upset me a bit because Mal was talking that talk when the tracklist came out and even said Em was surrounded by a bunch of yes-man including Royce, yet when Joe is making the same point, they stay quiet.
Yea mal should of been speaking up for joe cus he was the main one saying joe was camping for em now Royce speaks out and he is quiet cus he don’t want that smoke so u let ur man take all the heat
Makaveli Disciple allllllllll fucking facts
Joe asked his boy for an opinion then doesn't let him say shit. then asks am I wrong then doesn't let them say anything. Joe has always just been about joe even when he is wrong. You talked about a person you break bread with in that situation you could have told complex I have no comment on that.
Something very odd here with Joe.... why is he constantly talking about himself in the third person? Also seems manic and unable to accept that Rory and mal disagree with him on certain things....
@Dizazter FACTS
Joe eventually chilled on this, since it's now almost 2 years later but I will say Joe still uses this tactic anytime he brings up Em.
Btw no one was saying Em was being disloyal to Joe when Joe and Drake where going at it. In the middle of their back and forth Em shows up with Drake on Drake's tour like he don't know how that looks. I'm tired of people switching up definition of things based on who the person is.
Gregory Smith Drake and Em are friends. They’re grown men. Do you know how childish you have to be to stop talking to someone because someone you signed wanted to hate?
I'm sayin if they are that close as friends (joe and em) to where Joe isn't supposed to have an objective opinion on Em's music then Em shouldn't be able to be seen on stage with a nigga he's beefing with at the time. We are talking about public shit not behind closed doors which is what Royce is saying that Joe should've kept that behind closed doors. i'm using the same logic Royce is that's the point. I think all of it is childish because they are grown men.
Gregory Smith real talk
Gregory Smith FUCKING W
Gregory Smith real shit
I’m tired of Rory trying to say he speaking from somebody else point of view, knowing damn well that’s how he feel 😂
jj Gray yes man himself lolllll
Lol joe said no more point of view from you (Rory) hahaha
tanky when he said that I was in tears 😭
jj Gray without Devils Advocate you'd get no argument for Joe to go back n forth with.
Lmao
People also need to realize that royce and eminem go back to the 90s. Royce met eminem when he was nobody. They are close friends. Joe is right that him and eminem are not friends. More like associates. That's not a bad thing either. In the music business people think when your in the same label you are automatically friends that's not really the case. It's a business. And eminem is very isolated and quiet in general so I believe joe when he says they are not friends
Who cares about friends? Point was Joe's wrong for calling an artists work trash when its in the same field as your own. There's ways to speak on things when your opinion can sway others
Well said Chris
@@yami-kay9099 It's not in the same field if Joe's not a rapper anymore Einstein
@Ben from smart house THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...Someone with a brain to break down the situation.
"Y'all saw the track list, had a fit and formed your verdict before you heard it....."
Daryl Ramos ohhjj shiiiit
😂😂😂 man that shit wack
We heard it and it was trash
Bro I'm a stan, that shit I dont want to say is was hot garbage, but its definitely not my favorite album. MTBMB is so fuckin fire thou🔥
And they were right
how Joe disloyal if Eminem wasn’t loyal to his fans? rap game so soft now, nobody can handle honesty.
Eminem would have never called Joe Budden's music "trash." Eminem is not that type of guy, that's why it rubbed him the wrong way.
treefiddytwo it’s not about honesty, like Royce said, he can have his opinion, but the tone and attitude he presented wasn’t needed
like I said, *soft*
y’all really like things to be sugar coated or what? Em’s shit was trash and the mentality y’all are bringing to my attention just goes to show he needed someone with _Joe’s_ to be around him in the stu. what the fuck happen to telling people what they need to hear? all i’m sayin is the fans would’ve obviously got better music if the folks around Em weren’t so worried about upsetting him. i’m an artist too, i know all about being sensitive about your product but these guys are veterans.
Joe kept it a buck. Loyalty got nothing to do with this. Point blank.
@@treefiddytwoo man your way of playing is trash af. I checked your channel and I went through the whole thing and I found garbage af
Things like that, can and should be handled privately. Joe was plain disrespectful.
joe budden just keeps it real. you gotta respect that in the game
BoofBallsMcGee fax💯 yes-men killing the game.
BoofBallsMcGee When it's convenient for him. I like Joe, liked him even before it was cool to like Joe like most of these ES fans in the comment section who are finally watching the podcast (which has been out for about 3 years). However, Joe always has an agenda, let's not get it twisted.
MsOMG it’s not that deep and I’ve been a Joe Budden fan long before this podcast & ES just like you. Joe just a realist 💯
Mr. Marshall Joe and Em can go bar for bar. Relax just cause joe’s career wasn’t up to par doesn’t mean he still can’t spit
Joe can not go bar for bar with Eminem...we need to stop this narrative put some respect on Eminem's name.
Joe is a great rapper but Eminem is a legend.
“Yeah.........yeah.........I agree”
Well yeah Joe, you’re listening to a recording of yourself. Lol
8:30. Hes says em is always going to provide top content. When he just said in his recent podcast that em content for the last 10 years sucks.??? Smfh
AnthMore I caught that too. Too bad Joe fans overlooked that. Joe is the biggest hypocrite.
Em provides good rhyme based content. I dont think anybody rhymes words as well as em, but you cant tell me lyrical miracle swimming pool is as powerful as songs like I spoke to the devil in Miami by x, songs like joe budden's pray for me, and even mgk's songs like see my tears/letter to my fans.
@@willsapp2035 U seriously telling an x song or mgk songs are more heart touching than Ems .Wtf u smokin😂
He said he has been better than em the past ten years. That does not have anything to do with his rapping ability. "He is running out of shit to say" That's what he said! "Em is the best rhymer of words ever!" Q-tips anyone? Top content just means shit that will sell! This generation is toxic, everyone listens to prove a point, instead of actually listening!
Complete ass attack one of the most eloquent rappers America has in long time, just as well shady think ur a joke coz us in Ireland love him and we don't want Eminem to give up music, his worst album is better than ur best but never heard anything from u that's how fckin small u are globally, consistent ass
I'm still so confused...Joe Budden defended Eminem's album as much as he could. Did anybody actually watch Everyday Struggle when Budden was on it?!
Hold up MY G....at 9:30 he stated he didn't listen to the Em's album in at all. The other stuff is fluff. How can you defend an album you didn't even listen to it??
Tim Davis That is fair point. I remember him saying before that he hasn't listened to the album on another podcast as well. What I mean is that he clearly defended Eminem's artistic choices and defended the songs that he did hear. For instance, on Everyday Struggle he defended the amount of pop stars on Eminem's album. The only negative thing he ever said about it was he didn't like the production of the Untouchable track, but he said that he liked the message and thought Eminem's lyrics were on point. That is the only time I think Budden actually criticized Eminem...Unless I'm missing something from Twitter, but I don't follow much of that bullshit, except for if it's something important to understanding a side of a story.
I"m just talking the whole album. He is a commentator B!!!!! He holds a different position to just critique some songs and a tracklist!!! For the sake of objectivity you MUST LISTEN TO IT ALL, even if you think it's all TRASH!!! That's basic shit MAN!!!
Tim Davis Yeah, he should of listened to it all, but I was more commenting on how people are saying he was calling Eminem trash, which he wasn't. Budden even mentioned what you said; about how he can't really critique Eminem because he didn't review the album. That's why the people saying that he is going against Eminem are being ridiculous. It makes no sense.
Forget all the social media BS and the Royce's thing!!! The real issue is Em's album TBH!!! Why IS THERE NO REVIEW??? Is it really respect, love, loyalty, etc??? He didn't speak on that for a reason!!! But questioning Em's sincerity as well (that whole talk about his team sounds like smokescreen for not really speaking on Em who cosigns anything with regard to his music and decisions!!) a MAN (not a friend or boss!!!) is a violation TBH!!!
Joe stays riding for Em, I don't see it.
Carolina Blue Joe accused Eminem of exploiting African American issues for profit while also claiming his label (also joes) dropped the ball on him. Yes, he was disloyal
Joe would've been mad if Eminem would've been in a Slaughterhouse studio session and said Joe Budden's music was "trash, trash, trash."
Degenerett He accused Em's TEAM of trying to leverage race for publicity for his album. He said he feels Em would never do this but his team may be handling his genuine actions poorly n making it look disingenuous and a marketing ploy
Carolina Blue exactly!! And he ended up still saying that he knows Em well enough to know that Eminem will NEVER exploit African American issues for a comeback and that he thinks that SOMEONE ON HIS TEAM is giving Em the idea of the rollout. He still ended up giving Em the outmost amount of respect. I feel like a lot of people are just talking out their ass without watching the damn interview. He was a yes man for Eminem so long and people were annoyed with Joe for being a yes man, that he tried to objectively critique Em for once and people are still mad? Joe just can’t win for losing. 🤷🏽♀️
Degenerett He didn’t accuse Eminem of exploiting anyone.Did you not listen to what he said in Everyday Struggle or the first few minutes of this podcast?
Joe keeps bullying his Friends/co-host to side with his thoughts on issues.
As a European - none of us had heard about Joe Budden until he was with EMINEM / Slaughterhouse... So from an international perspective, it was very disloyal to EMINEM since we feel that EMINEM is the ONLY reason why anybody in Europe ever heard about Joe Budden..
Nikolai Nalu yep and that's sad because Joe is easy more than his stint with slaughter house. I understand that though because from your prospective it looks like they were friends or really close.
Same thing down here in nz
Yeah and it was the same way in the U.S. I listened cause eminem introduced him. His shit is trash lol. Just my opinion.
Nikolai Nalu.. And as White Europeans, You are not grassroots Hip-Hop.. nor from the people or community who created the culture.. So Who Gives a Fuck.. Whites (thru the internet) now trying to enact validity in our culture, is actually the problem that authentic hip-hop is having..
Stfu I am from Europe and you don't speak for me
I've been watching ES on regular base and its true Joe avoided talking about Eminem.
He just took the wrong time to finally say something: When everything looked bad.
It was just his use of words. He didn't listen to the album but called it "TRASH." He called "Untouchable" "one of the worst songs he's ever heard."
TheIGGod he never said the album was trash. He said the roll out
TheIGGod joe saying he never heard the album is him saying the album is trash. It’s just a cover up more like sugar coating lol
Deadass
and it was the day after the Jeezy episode where people thought Jeezy punked him and silenced him, so I think Joe was feeling like he had to be more bold the following day.
Joe has always been loyal to Eminem.
JOE NOBODY IN THAT ROOM IS YOUR FRIEND.. THIS WAS WEIRD AF TO WATCH
sadino B Joe isnt even joes friend..So its a wash..😂👌💯
I agree with joe. Eminem is a legend. He can say so many things. He can make a difference. Yet with a lyrical flow to prove that he can do it. We already know he can do it. He could've done so much more on his last album. That doesn't take away from his history
Erickson be ON HIS JOB!!
Puttin respect on New New Chris Brown's name
Saying that Joe is disloyal to Eminem is just funny to me. Cause for the longest he was the only one defending the em shit till it came out
that's the only time it matters though!
Nothing says sugar coating like starting a diss with "know that I love you..."
How is he being disloyal for being honest? Even in giving his honest opinion he called Em a genius a million times.
SlowClass Kai 1) said "Untouchable" was the worst track he ever heard 2) accused Em and his camp of using the plight of black ppl to sell records 3) called the track list trash 3) called untouchable trash 4) he agreed with Charlemagne and put Em on the top 5 TRASH list of 2017 5) blatantly BASHING Em's tracks, album roll out, etc. Joe didn't just say he didn't like the track(s), he WENT IN on Em and talking mad shit
Stefen Young If I compliment everything you do except that one thing you did recently, would that be a diss?
regirayquaza thank you! People can’t be honest without being criticized or called a hater smh he even said him & Em aren’t even friends/close
SlowClass Kai you're genius! FUCK YOU!
How did that feel?
SlowClass Kai thing is Eminem’s last 2 albums that were put out when Budden was signed were all trash. Budden never said anything about those albums and said he liked Em’s take on recovery and mmlp2. Joe changed as soon as he blew up criticizing rappers and artists on his podcast and that’s also when he decided to start calling Em’s work trash. Revival is just as whack as his last two albums. Joe just wanted to keep blowing up on the Internet and used Eminem to keep increasing his status.
What happened to the "is that really your meat?" Drop?
Cole le Mal told him to get rid of it lol 😂
Pause
Mal didn't fuck with it
That one was hilarious as fuck
niansillabffs mal was so distigusted by that drop 😂
That was clearly sugar coating. Sugar coating is putting a nice veneer on the truth. "Coating" the truth. You still tell the truth but you coat it with nice stuff. Definition of sugar coating
Uncle Jeff The Jew
That’s not sugar coating at all. Saying what you like and dislike about something is constructive criticism.
Sugar coating is only focusing on the positives.
Royce said say something nice then say whatever your negative crticism. "You're a great rapper but this album is trash." That's not sugarcoating. "I thunk your album has a lot of difficulties, all the tracks have questionable beats, the lyrics aren't very sharp, etc"
Thats sugar coating.
Oxy Moron
Truth.
Elias Gregory
None of that is sugar coating. Saying you’re a great rapper but the album is trash is just a blanket opinion.
Saying that the album has difficulties, questionable beats, lyrics aren’t sharp is constructive criticism.
That’s pointing out things that can be addressed.
Sugar coating would be like saying, it’s not what I expected, but it’s not bad, when you really think it sucks
PaytenAshley if they are your friend you should be able to be brutally honest with them.
Joe saying I agree to himself 😂
Joe listening to Joe on a recording:
‘Yeah I agree with everything so far... all accurate so far’ 😂
Royce has a point, BUT he can't deny that Em's album was straight ass cheeks. Joe should have been in that studio screaming "trash", banging on tables going "heyyyy" and maybe that shit would have been decent. That's Royce's man though so he has to defend him.
P.S: F Eminem for killing Slaughterhouse
MrGNugget budden killed slaughterhouse. they all was waiting on him. he wanted the bag
The fuck does Eminem have to do with Slaughterhouse breaking up? There wouldn't have been "Slaughterhouse" without EM
F "Interscope" for killing Slaughterhouse.
Bryan Shepherd well i mostly blame em's decision to executive produce their album. His influence was all over and it came out weak, I saw a lot of fans turned their back on them after that and they never recovered. Idk about the behind the scenes stuff though.
Im sayin tho. All i got out of this whole situation was "Joe shoulda been in the damn studio while this was made" lmao If a labelmate like Joe was in the studio while this shit was going down we'd be having a whole other discussion
Dude up there with Joe Rogan, the two Joe's run the podcast game...
You know those Dr Seuss “Thing 1 & thing 2” t-shirts..They should make Rory & mal wear t-shirts, except switch it up to, “ballsack 1 & ballsack 2”..At least keep it real.. 🙄😂
I’m weak 😂
Sometimes joe be tripping to prove a point
loyalty starts with honesty, with your self and others ,not for a check. Loyalty from friends means excepting there choice to not like your shit,or agree with you. Loyalty is respecting my (NO) The same way you respect my (Yes)
Honesty doesn't equate disrespect
I just wanna wish everybody a great day!😁
If Em took offense and felt some way about Joe’s comments that’s insecurity. Em is by far if not the best ONE of the best lyricists EVER, there’s no reason for insecurity from Em.
Great point however, if u paid this dude and gave him a contract him publicly hating is a slap in the face. If u didn’t pay for dudes last big videos and singles u would be right but if u did u have the right to feel a way about the hate
Is him saying that Marshall tells him all the things he likes about the track first and then the things he doesn't like any different then Joe saying the therapist says start everything with love first and then going to your other spill? It's the same thing. why is it considered sugar coating?
While Joe Budden was beefing with Drake. Eminem went on stage and performed with Drake. Who was disloyal to whom?
lol that was Drake trying to squash a beef with Em
Donovan Felix Nah man thats like The Game doing a interview about Jadakiss while 50's beefing with D-Block... oh wait that did happen and The Game got his ass kick out of G-Unit. Eminem crossed that line in war time, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Channel1Mind
Facts
Mmm hmmmm
Channel1Mind absolutely
New rory and mal.
Long time Eminem fan here, I've grown up listening to all of his albums since Jr High School (I'm 34 now) and I grew up in the generation of Biggy/Pac/Outkast/Nelly/Nas/BoneThugs/etc, BUT that aside... I COMPLETELY AGREE and support what Budden is saying. I think it was honest criticism, and I think he was speaking what most of the masses thought, but it might've come across a bit harsh-- BECAUSE I think there are good artistic elements of Em's new album, there definitely are good things to say about the direction he went but all in all it didn't deliver what the fans wanted to hear. In a nutshell.
Joe shouldn't be getting victimized for disagreeing. And moreso, what Em's been doing the last year lashing back at his fans and cutting his fan base in half based on who they might have voted for (in an election with two absolute trash candidates-- damned if you do, damned if you don't lol...tbh), for someone like Eminem who's been all about free speech and saying whatever the fuck he wants the fact that he's going after fans who disagree is fuckin borderline Marxist mentality, wtf is that...
How is he right he didnt even listen to the album and simply just because of the tracklist like he judged somebody he knew based off a tracklist and called it utter trash and garbage
Agreed
Eminem is more about shock value rap. Not a fan of that. It's corny.
JARY i'm 38. I remember listening to Em in high school and college. I thought Encore was bad but damn Revival is a fucking terrible album
I’m 35yrs old & I also grew up listening to eminem. I’ve enjoyed every album he came out with but “revival” is the only album that disappointed me. Joe budden got too much backlash for his criticism.
Joe won't even listen to what Mal, Rory, and Parks are trying to say. Smh.
These podcasts are like watching Joe PESCI in Goodfella's... your Co Hosts are on eggshells the whole time.
HIMENEM
Joe is the problem here. He's constantly getting himself into bad deals. Then complaining and bailing halfway through the deal. He'll then lash out at the people he is in business with.
joe still mad Em left him off the intro to welcome to our house lol
Joes verse was dope, ems verse was regular. Id be man too
They titled it "la di da di da" lmao 😂
Nicholas Alvarez you peeped too 😅😂😂😂😂😂
All Royce is saying is be respectful & constructive with your criticism & don’t say it’s just trash without understanding the time & passion “your guy” put into the work that you think is garbage & trash.
So basically you cant say that you dont like shit now a days.
"Joe isn't disloyal" Literally says him and Eminem "Are not friends" Interesting..
Patty Freakin Clips Right..real pathetic smh..
They're not friends. They never have been. They were business partners. And joe and the rest of slaughterhouse got fucked over on that deal. Em fucked over d12, slaughterhouse, and the outsiders. Em ruins any group hes a part of.
joe makes the dumbest confused face when someone makes a good point that goes against what he's being defensive about. Its like his brain momentarily short circuits while he struggles to find the words that justify his position
black fish 😂😂😂😂
lol @ short circuits
black fish ...I'm not even invested in this
However I think the gist was whether you avoided the topic for awhile or not, its what you said, when you decided to say something and maybe it was received differently then you intended but you can only control what you say , not how its received
Simple
And he didn't play the clip from the episode where he looked like he was about to have a heart attack when he was running down the tracklist before the album release lol
It's cognitive dissonance
Nicole Williams Joe is the reason I didn't even listen to Emz album
"Are you in that Mood yet!"
Joe listens to respond instead of listening to try to understand...he always does that...great guy and MC, very underrated..but that is a serious flaw he has
Joe serious now, if your such an Eminem ‘Stan’ like you claim to be, why haven’t u heard or reviewed the album? 🤔 Seems strange to me
Wayne Makaveli Davies Because he has heard the album, I think he's a lair!
Ms Libra I think he has too....Weren’t the words Sugar coating and egg shells used throughout the interview 😏 Talks wet
year late, but Joe has said that he isn't a Eminem stan. No sane person who has reviewed and experienced music for as long as Joe would ever Stan someone anyway. He has said that Stan mentality is such bullshit. You could ask any person who is relevant within reviewing music/artists/albums this question: Is Stan mentality toxic? All of them will probably say yes, it is obsessive and borderline creepy. Anyone who genuinely Stans an artist or a celebrity is, to sugarcoat it, on the wrong track.
Because it's trash
I'm with joe, album was trash. Royce should've told em that if they really friends
Nu Sense I didn't say that joe said the album was trash. Pay attention.
Clearly you ddnt hear royce said that Em only let him listen to the album 4days before it's release. You think his opinion wouldve matter after all the effort em and shady have put out to promote the album? We dont know the backstory, maybe royce has already given his opinion to Em about the album but Em might've said "fvck that, it's here now we cant pull it out and just make a new one". Might've let Em think twice though but still went on releasing the album and at the end of shady firechat Em said that a lot of ppl will not like this album, so he already expected the backlash maybe after hearing the backlash even before the album was out. Clearly Joe influenced a lot of his viewers on ES and the podcast with cthagod to not give the album a chance and keep hate on Em.
Peyt Calanza I heard that shit Royce said, talking bout walking egg shells around each others music, which like Joe said that just sounds like sugar coating to me. Also it's clear to me that Royce or anyone else in em's camp didn't really voice a strong opinion against the album because when the album was released, it seemed like he was surprised by the backlash. remember he released that chloraseptic remix taking shots at all that people who didn't like the album.
I get what you saying bout Joe influencing his viewers but it was already a growing sentiment that the tracklist looked bad and the album was gonna be trash way before joe said anything bout it. like he said he tried for the longest to avoid the em topic on his show.
T-dot did you read what I wrote? Royce heard the album 4 days before it's release so there's no way he couldve made a difference what Em have on the album. why question royce's friendship to Em if you heard that Em let royce hear the album before it's release? we dont even know what's his take on the album cause he might've already told Em privately out in the prying eyes and ears of the public who can easily twist words. Growing sentiment abt the tracklist yes but the song that he trashed and shitted on, his reaction and opinion to that made a huge impact on how the album was perceived by his viewers too. He just gave those ppl more reason to hate Em and again not to give the tracks a listen. I would have to disagree with you I love the album content is there I get why it doesnt have the same energy he has on the remix, you know what I mean if you really listened to the shady firechat where royce said those lines above. Not his strongest album but not trash.
T-dot clearly you ddnt hear the shady firechat with shade45 where Em said specifically that he knows a lot of ppl will not like this album, and he is surprise where?
The irony in this is talking to your friends about being disloyal but when it appears they disagree you don't want to hear it lol. I say that just making an observation but I did agree with Joe on the Em topics from EDS.
This nigga Joe should be on a debate team. I'm convinced this dude can do something and be completely in the wrong and make you think it was all your fault!
Deezel215 He isn't wrong though. You'd have to ignore a LOT of respectful shit he said to highlight the negative or less tasteful comments in regard to the CD. And it was trash!
Soon as somebody don’t agree with him… he want someone to repeat what was said n the definition 😂
Sugarcoating is only when you saying things, other's would like to hear while holding back your real opinion and views.
Your friends never 'sugar coat' on the podcast, ever! Yet artists should do it around each other? Cummon son, "respect the craft" is the new Curve... in the music industry.
O.B Swartz but the podcast has nothing to do with his music
Is it just me or does Joe’s opinion on Em’s album have more clout than Eminem’s actual album 😅
Lenawu this is a fact 😂😭
Issa fact
Is it a fact tho? Go check the stats you wrong bitch
What opinion? He just admitted he's never heard the album yet.
Jordan Ochs exactly
If people think joe budden doesn’t love himself way too much and needs a smack across the back of the head they probly a eminem hater he is disloyal he only did all this to eminem because he didn’t put all his time and effort into joes career when he knows em also has his own career selfish person.
They also never spoke about the time he sat with charmalaigne trashing the album like he’s made great albums revival is better than any joe budden album
I just listened to Revival. The album is FIRE. Period. Idk what Jo was even talking about
In short, no he wasn’t disloyal. I love Nickel, I don’t love his perspective on this particular issue. It’s just a difference of opinion tho. Joe’s approach won’t be Royce’s or anyone’s else’s. But if Joe is entitled to his opinion, why can’t he just have it? Especially as it relates to hip hop?
He still hasn’t judged Em’s album. The rollout with the Trump diss whiffed and the album was poorly received. Joe called that spade exactly what it was. There was no diss from Joe.
Not disloyal but disrespectful . I don’t agree to that tho but that’s the only word I can think of
It's like having someone recruit you to a football team and years later you trash your former teammate's game. Loyalty differs from context and it is not written down as a rule. You should have beeen smarter than that, Joe.
Guy thinks nobody did anything for him.lmao
Nnnnnnnnnnn new joe budden
Joe’s back is way too against the wall to be receptive to anything anyone is saying
Royce is 100% correct. I can’t remember a time when joe shit on album as bad as he did Em’s. And he shit on Paul too. It’s become obvious Joe has been envious, jealous and a lot more of Em.
Joe didn't play the part of the clip where he was basically saying Eminem wasn't genuine and haid a bunch of yes men around him. Come'n bro. Play the right part.
fonk u I mean, he didn't play the part when he was going off.
Jay he did listen to the end.
He didn't play his real comments.
Im loving these early uploads!!!
I don't think youwere disloyal but i do think you should fly out to Detroit and speak to Em personally
The Fallen lol why?
Fuck em
Joe Budden seems like someone I could be friends with...after we fought
Joe is disloyal. He trashed a PLAYLIST, not the album. And said numerous times he didn't listen to it. So 1. His opinion holds no weight. 2. He went way extra for no damn reason and 3. Played himself as a retired MC now voice in hip hop by saying anything on something he didn't even hear.
Budden been dead until Slaughterhouse and now he's back in people's ears. I'm from Jersey and I know Joe got bars and has always been a middle finger to the industry but look, why you talking behind a mic and not spittin behind one? Joe was given a second chance and instead of working with Shady Rec. he went all diva and since he didn't get his way when the group voted on shit, he mentally checked out and now he's a voice on shit? C'mon, Joe. Even the people next to you know you extra. They just being loyal to their job. But you don't know nothing about that. Big mouth for someone riding solo burning every bridge he crosses.
EVERYBODY was coming at Joe for no reason
Politics over real talk.
Real talk > Politics
You can tell by the body languages of the co-hosts that they wanted to tell Joe Budden that he was wrong.
Prime example of people who get better opportunities and shit on others his career would be dead no slaughter house guaranteed