BEST documentary I have ever seen. Easily. I unfortunatly wasn't born around this time and I learnt so much from this doc. Even though New Order were more successful I still prefer Joy Division. Thanks for uploading!
parts 4&5 omitted for copyright issues??well I can say I was there throughout most of this.....glad I cant remember some,wish I could remember most of it
I gotta say, living in the states and seeing this bit about what the music scene was before the rise of Factory, I'm hoping that a June 4th, 1976 type event will happen and usher in a new form of music, something provocative, something beyond mere accessibility. I worship the sound of Joy division/new order and those that inspired them, from iggy pop to bowie, but nows the time for something revelatory, not derivative. for all i care, the current indie scene has been dying for ages...
@craigclarke that's cool, I didn't know they had a large american following back then. I always thought JD were kind of like how people talk about velvet underground as being; where they made great, influential records but were still mostly unknown while together.. were they on the radio and stuff?
the sex pistols were so raw and abrasive and i can totally see how the youth/young adults would be drawn to that whole seen even now every time i hear authentic punk music you cant help but feel that energy surge and want to start dancing and screaming lol my kid tried to tell me green day was punk rock i almost fell on the floor laughing...really if you are my age or even older and have never heard green day listen to a song or so of theirs and you will have a good laugh of what todays generation says is punk...they have no clue
As a born and bred Mancunion who now lives abroad now I would be priced out of my own city. Don’t know if major improvement has happened now it’s trendy.
Don't get why they have to have a go at the Sweet, Mud etc. Tiger Feet is a fucking tune and the majority of Glam bands were working class boys making music, not manufactured pop. There are much worse examples of popular music in the 70s than the Sweet. The fact that they're remembered gives credence to how good they were. The majority of chart music in the 70s has been largely forgotten because it was actually bloody awful. It's also very very different to Progressive Rock which they conflate with it here. Prog Rock was never particularly mainstream and rather had dedicated following outside the mainstream in a similar way to Metal today. The most popular Metal bands can sell out huge venues but they'd never be considered part of mainstream culture, the same for prog rock.
22 his point was that it was fucking terrible. no idea when this doc was made but this was uploaded 10 years ago and yes Detroit got worse. don't take everything so literal ya goof
Though I don't agree with it, unfortunately the tragedy of Ian's death has made Joy Division's 'story' more appealing to people these days, who weren't around when they played. I agree with you that Ian's lyrics were top notch. Always quite poetic and brutally honest.
C'mon Bernard Sumner, how you trash your own countries' music in the 70s, boiling it down to The Sweet and Gary Glitter. What about seminal efforts from Bowie, The Stones, etc.? Other than, than well done and fascinating.
BEST documentary I have ever seen. Easily. I unfortunatly wasn't born around this time and I learnt so much from this doc. Even though New Order were more successful I still prefer Joy Division. Thanks for uploading!
Spirit Son of Ian Curtis:
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this is brilliant...rest in peace hannett, Curtis, gretton, Wilson..and larry Cassidy..
sincere music! straight from the heart!
Respected.. The LegendS + Factory rec's of course.
parts 4&5 omitted for copyright issues??well I can say I was there throughout most of this.....glad I cant remember some,wish I could remember most of it
I gotta say, living in the states and seeing this bit about what the music scene was before the rise of Factory, I'm hoping that a June 4th, 1976 type event will happen and usher in a new form of music, something provocative, something beyond mere accessibility. I worship the sound of Joy division/new order and those that inspired them, from iggy pop to bowie, but nows the time for something revelatory, not derivative. for all i care, the current indie scene has been dying for ages...
has anything happened then in the last 9 years?
Great! We are coming from an industrial area in Germany, the feelings are the same. Thats why sound sounds like sound!
@craigclarke that's cool, I didn't know they had a large american following back then. I always thought JD were kind of like how people talk about velvet underground as being; where they made great, influential records but were still mostly unknown while together.. were they on the radio and stuff?
Great documentary and it seems like looking back on a great art movement that certainly does not exist today in any shape or form... sadly
thx for uploading =)
Fookin Anthony H Wilson.. what a beautiful man
Fascinating, not sure today's youth will know or even comprehend such bleakness.
After watching this :" hey let's start a band or hey i wanna start my own record label".
Amazing. R.I.P. WILSON AND CURTIS IN HEAVEN.
Free trade hall must’ve been bigger than the Manchester arena? Considering the amount of people claiming to have been there
the sex pistols were so raw and abrasive and i can totally see how the youth/young adults would be drawn to that whole seen even now every time i hear authentic punk music you cant help but feel that energy surge and want to start dancing and screaming lol my kid tried to tell me green day was punk rock i almost fell on the floor laughing...really if you are my age or even older and have never heard green day listen to a song or so of theirs and you will have a good laugh of what todays generation says is punk...they have no clue
As a born and bred Mancunion who now lives abroad now I would be priced out of my own city. Don’t know if major improvement has happened now it’s trendy.
Band called Black Massives very influenced by Factory
He definitely said "The Sweet"
Don't get why they have to have a go at the Sweet, Mud etc. Tiger Feet is a fucking tune and the majority of Glam bands were working class boys making music, not manufactured pop. There are much worse examples of popular music in the 70s than the Sweet. The fact that they're remembered gives credence to how good they were. The majority of chart music in the 70s has been largely forgotten because it was actually bloody awful.
It's also very very different to Progressive Rock which they conflate with it here. Prog Rock was never particularly mainstream and rather had dedicated following outside the mainstream in a similar way to Metal today. The most popular Metal bands can sell out huge venues but they'd never be considered part of mainstream culture, the same for prog rock.
The band at 3:02?
as it says early shift @ 0:50 what song is that playing in the background?
Heart and soul by joy division
What, BBC took a Channel 4 doco of exactly the same name, stripped the voiceover off & put there own on! I preferred the original Channel 4 narrator.
"Worse than Detroit"? Thats adorable.
Whats adorable? Do you have any idea what that area was like? Also this doc is like 20 years old. Detroit got worse.
22 his point was that it was fucking terrible. no idea when this doc was made but this was uploaded 10 years ago and yes Detroit got worse. don't take everything so literal ya goof
BBC copyright grounds? Why do we pay licence fees??
2;45, someone knows the name of tha band?
Whats the band at 2:28 ?
What's the name of the track that starts at 00:53?
Blue Monday by new order
you are wrong
Yes it's Blue Monday ... haven't you ever heard it before?
Heart and Soul by Joy Division
All you people saying it's Blue Monday must not be true fans of Joy Division or New Order. Don't even know their songs...
That's HEART and Soul...
tengo una banda que tiene la misma onda y el cantante es igual a ian curtis
@BabylonAGoGo Likewise mate.
its brian connoly, i figured it out!
new order is amazing group
tony wilson, the hacienda... ah i wish i was born twenty years before :/.
not the buzzcocks. it just 'buzzcocks'
#omnidirecTional
Though I don't agree with it, unfortunately the tragedy of Ian's death has made Joy Division's 'story' more appealing to people these days, who weren't around when they played.
I agree with you that Ian's lyrics were top notch. Always quite poetic and brutally honest.
like the beatles?
i liked joy division before i found out ian committed suicide. Their music is good to begin with.
C'mon Bernard Sumner, how you trash your own countries' music in the 70s, boiling it down to The Sweet and Gary Glitter. What about seminal efforts from Bowie, The Stones, etc.? Other than, than well done and fascinating.
Er, he said The Stones and Beatles were good and glam couldn't hold a candle to them.
Not true
@craigclarke Joy Division wouldn't have as big an impact on people if Ian hadn't have commited suicide, in my humble opinion though.
The Stones sucked in the 70's like most bands, thats why punk was so agressive
Oh Peter Saville ...Such an unfortunate name.
iggy pop is a try hard.