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  • The collapse of the Soviet Empire came suddenly, mostly due to the invasion of Afghanistan. Let's talk about that!
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  • @Smellbringer
    @Smellbringer 2 года назад +2273

    Russia in 2022: "I wonder if I can speeedrun this?"

    • @michelangelo4483
      @michelangelo4483 2 года назад +1

      But Ukraine is losin, they had to fake stories like the ghost of Kiev, bucha, snake island, etc, most idiots just thought war is a video game and Russia should have won day 1 cause call of duty said so

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 2 года назад +59

      At this point. It's likely that it'll be half the time.

    • @michelangelo4483
      @michelangelo4483 2 года назад +77

      @@frankieseward8667 Ukrainians don’t have the same honor or spirit the afghans do lol, even now, Ukraine is begging 24/7 for food and weapons, without it they’d be completely gone lol

    • @N0noy1989
      @N0noy1989 2 года назад +305

      @@michelangelo4483 The Afghans were also armed and trained by the US. The Soviets took control of all the major Afghanistan cities and roads, and it took ten years for rebels to drive away the Soviets. Compare that to Ukraine that only lost one major city (Kherson), by then Ukrainians knew they could win if they had weapons. I'd beg too if that's what it takes to destroy invaders. There's no honor in war. Do everything you can to defend your land. It's idealism that led Russia to just keep on grabbing land.

    • @michelangelo4483
      @michelangelo4483 2 года назад +19

      @@N0noy1989 you keep coping, Ukrainians have been dying by the dozens, even mistaking enemy tanks for their own LOL

  • @TommygunNG
    @TommygunNG 2 года назад +1468

    "Republic of Afghanistan" turns to "Democratic Republic of Afghanistan."
    General rule, folks: The more a country tries to claim to be "democratic" or representative in its name, the less it actually is.

    • @kevinboltz6244
      @kevinboltz6244 2 года назад +40

      So America?

    • @TommygunNG
      @TommygunNG 2 года назад +172

      @@kevinboltz6244 "The United States of America."
      No bragging at all about being "democratic" or representative in that name. Simply an acknowledgement of our federal nature.
      I've long expected that the liberal/Left will seek to reframe the country's labeling should they gain that full final control. I can totally see them adding "People's Democratic Progressive Republic of..." to the name.

    • @Error_404-F.cks_Not_Found
      @Error_404-F.cks_Not_Found 2 года назад +175

      People's republic of china.
      Democratic people's republic of korea
      Yes I see your point lol

    • @christopherjones8448
      @christopherjones8448 Год назад +73

      @@kevinboltz6244 Um no... you seem to have completely missed the point of the comment

    • @TommygunNG
      @TommygunNG Год назад

      @@christopherjones8448 Correct. Look at his channel. He's a total America-hating, White Guilt/CRT-promoting, Antifa/BLM insurrection-backing traitor who missed the "in its name" phrase in my comment.

  • @mardan1974
    @mardan1974 Год назад +134

    I was around 6 years old and i remember the night when Russians started the assault in December 1979. I was at my uncle's house and we took cover in his basement near the airport when the fighting started. You could hear very loud gun fire all night. The next day when we left for home it was a shocker to see tons of Russian troops and tanks all over the streets. I remember this like it happened yesterday.

    • @xinniethep00h
      @xinniethep00h Год назад +8

      That’s wild. What was life like during the war? Were you also there when the Americans came?

    • @mardan1974
      @mardan1974 Год назад +19

      @@xinniethep00h Life was very tough growing up there but i left Afghanistan in late 80s before Russians left.

    • @brianticas2068
      @brianticas2068 Год назад +14

      Damn. But at the end Afghanistan got through the Brits, the ruskies, the Americans. Idk how you guys win but you guys always get the invaders out of there.

    • @cyborgchicken3502
      @cyborgchicken3502 Год назад +15

      @@brianticas2068 if there's two people groups u can never ever fully subjugate, its the Afghans and the Vietnamese.... Even Vietnam has a history of failed attempts at trying to subjugate or conquer them... They repelled Chinese invasion at least several times through out their history with Chinese Empires only ever having been able to hold the northern part of country for less than a decade, and in the 20th century alone they overthrew French colonial rule, beat back the Americans and another attempt by China in 1979, the Chinese army couldn't even cross the border

    • @mick4489
      @mick4489 Год назад

      Not Russians!!! 1979 was USSR

  • @nicholascauton9648
    @nicholascauton9648 Год назад +38

    22:26 “Fighting a counter-insurgency is like trying to eat soup with a fork…”
    As funny as this analogy is, it’s a pretty good one. Next time I get into a complicated situation in life, I’ll think back to this analogy.

    • @emmanuelawosusi2365
      @emmanuelawosusi2365 10 месяцев назад +1

      Guerrilla warfare maybe the usa should use it next time

  • @davidtaylor5525
    @davidtaylor5525 2 года назад +237

    Steve Coll's "Ghost Wars" is an excellent book about America's involvement with Afghanistan during the Soviet-Afghan War and the lead-up to 9/11. The book was an eye-opener for me.

    • @raulfinker2478
      @raulfinker2478 2 года назад +2

      I also recommend "Afgantsy". Also a wonderful book.

    • @vintageradioman
      @vintageradioman Год назад +6

      Do your own research about the so called Israeli art students during 9/11

    • @larrydickman5936
      @larrydickman5936 Год назад

      Look up Christopher Bollyns " 9/11, The Deception " . Absolute page Turner.

    • @bigpapi6688
      @bigpapi6688 8 месяцев назад

      America have the mujahideen weapons and money to fight they Soviet’s. They turned their back and slaughtered civilians because a certain someone was jealous that his (Saudi) government liked America more than they liked the mujahideen. Not much else to know about those feral pigs.

  • @mcwildstyle9106
    @mcwildstyle9106 2 года назад +123

    This is why learning from history is important now. Because if we don't, we'll make the same mistakes over and over again

    • @kurtru5selcrowe607
      @kurtru5selcrowe607 2 года назад +20

      You can learn from history until your blue in the face. The issue is whether or not you have the wisdom to apply those lessons to modern times. Too many people either ignore it on purpose or question the veracity of a history book because it doesn’t conform the their beliefs. If simply knowing history was enough then all one would need to do is shout a short and concise history lesson at a dictator before he invaded a country.
      “What’s that? We lost how many people 100 years ago in a needless war and only survived because the enemy was incompetent and our Allie’s saved us… your quite right. We’ll focus our efforts on more peaceful means then.”

    • @dpt6849
      @dpt6849 2 года назад

      that's why in western europe the left choose to remove history and geography as mandatory subjects in schools

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 Год назад

      Really? You could of fooled me.

    • @bluesdoggg
      @bluesdoggg Год назад +10

      Man has never learned from history, ever.

    • @mcwildstyle9106
      @mcwildstyle9106 Год назад +7

      @@bluesdoggg And thats the sad reality

  • @SpencerGD
    @SpencerGD 2 года назад +669

    Maybe you mentioned it and I missed it, but a key reason the USSR escalated from an advisory role to direct military action was the murder of two or three soviet officers in an Afghan city. Prior to that, soviet generals/officers had been in the country primarily to advise the Afghan army on strategies. After a few officers were killed by locals, though, the USSR became a belligerent in the conflict.
    Also worth noting, during the Mujahideen's resistance, many of the country's women and children fled to Pakistan. During their time there, many were given refuge in mosques. The clerics of those mosques provided food & shelter, in addition to providing education for the children. Of course, the education provided had an Islamic slant/bias, so the children were effectively indoctrinated with pro-Islamic sentiments. When the boys were old enough, they returned to Afghanistan to join the fight, but their ideologies didn't necessarily align with the original Mujahideen's. As a result, this second generation of fighters became known as the Taliban. The name "Taliban" comes from the word "talib", which is the Pashto word for "student," owing to the religious education those fighters had received while in Pakistan.

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 2 года назад

      Pakistan sponsored terrorists for way too long and got away with it.

    • @SpencerGD
      @SpencerGD 2 года назад +50

      @@CatnamedMittens that's debatable. Pakistani intelligence officers often did not have full awarness of their assets' intentions. ("Assets" being clerics and high-ranking Taliban members.) Moreover, as much as I don't want to hate on my own country, the United States provided Pakistan's intelligence services with too much discretion/oversight over US-provided resources (weapons & money). I am not saying Pakistan-sponsored terrorism does not exist, but it's not solely a problem with the Pakistani' government. The US should have been more assertive about traceability into how its resources were being used, and they should have refused to provide resources in cases where traceability was impossible/unavailable. That being said, as an American, I was outraged to hear that Osama Bin Landen resided in Pakistan for ~5 years prior to his death. However, that can partially be blamed on colonialism, which resulted in the creation of the modern-day Pakistani-Afghan border. Pakistan and Afghanistan were not split by ideological or ethnic lines. Instead, communities were split in half and they did not feel strong political allegiance to their respective sides. It's therefore no wonder that some communities were willing to harbor terrorists within their borders. After all, they likey viewed these people similar to the revolutionary minds that sparked the U.S. Revolutionary War and the French Revolution. Of course, the difference was that those conflicts were clearly against an established government that was detrimental to their people, not against foreign countries who were otherwise minimally involved.

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 2 года назад

      @@SpencerGD The U.S is to blame. The inadvertently funded terrorists and they funded the "wrong side." That being said, Taliban ideologies started in Pakistan and they ultimately spread them.

    • @f7serrano17
      @f7serrano17 2 года назад +1

      Weren’t these officers beheaded? And I think they even sent there severed heads to some military outpost?

    • @RamblesBrambles
      @RamblesBrambles Год назад +13

      2 or 3 russian officers in an Afghan city...wow, you've really done your homework there! 😂

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 2 года назад +444

    I have two American Afghan vets as friends and this video was helpful in letting me know what they went through though it covers the Soviet's involvement its near identical to when my friends deployed there to fight the Taliban.

    • @johnmcdonald9295
      @johnmcdonald9295 2 года назад +35

      An American caused a fuss ,when he found the afghans liked to use young boys as playthings and got told to keep quiet as it was part of the Afghan culture

    • @residentelect
      @residentelect 2 года назад +61

      @@johnmcdonald9295
      "Bacha Bazi"... Most of us who were deployed to Afghanistan (at least in the UK AF) recieved very little input on that particular "cultural anomaly".
      They didn't want us deploying in-country and harbouring preconceptions that literally any of the men we may cpme into contact with (including those serving in the ANA and ANP) could be a child abuser and/or trafficker.
      It was something we picked up on through witnessing it first hand and listening to the rumours and stories. Some men would proudly admit "women for marriage, boys for pleasure", but amongst many it was an unspoken taboo, especially amongst women and girls.
      Being a paramedic I found it particularly harrowing (just as I would if it was young girls suffering) because part of our deployment was to provide frontline clinics and pop-up medical triage centres for the local populace. On many occasions we'd have lads no older than ten years of age turning up without parental/guardian supervision, a look of deep shame on there faces, and suffering from some terrible injuries and infections which could only have been inflicted one way.
      It still haunts me to this day.

    • @spudeleven5124
      @spudeleven5124 2 года назад +5

      Read "American Spartan" by Ann Scott Tyson about SF Major James Gant. There was no braver American couple in that war.

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 2 года назад

      @@spudeleven5124 cool

    • @bryananderson3772
      @bryananderson3772 Год назад

      It's nice when foreign governments arm the men who are killing your friends eh? The US bitches about it happening to us but here we are again arming another army to kill soldiers of a foreign nation

  • @916Pashok
    @916Pashok Год назад +13

    My uncle served in the 350 Regiment Guards Paratrooper 1984-86. didn't like to talk about it..at times he would tell us experience and moments..drank quiet often.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 2 года назад +167

    0:55 - Chapter 1 - Down with the crown
    8:00 - Chapter 2 - Tajpeg palace assault
    14:50 - Chapter 3 - Squashing the rebellion
    19:35 - Chapter 4 - Final years
    22:35 - Chapter 5 - Graveyear of empires

    • @bryananderson3772
      @bryananderson3772 Год назад +1

      Was that so hard?

    • @ajcastellon5903
      @ajcastellon5903 Год назад +4

      If you check the description there's also video markers. But thanks I guess? Most people probably don't check the description.

  • @MrTexasDan
    @MrTexasDan 2 года назад +151

    No mention of the Stinger effect. The Soviets lost 350 aircraft, many over the battlefields from Mujaheddin use of US-supplied Stinger missiles (sound familiar?). It hastened their withdrawal, for without the tactical advantage of air superiority, they were done.

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 2 года назад +28

      Just like Ukraine.

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 2 года назад +12

      Anti-Potato weaponry

    • @armandotalampas4800
      @armandotalampas4800 2 года назад +37

      Yup! I also noticed that. Sir Simon left that part and barely talked about the US and CIA involvement in the Soviet -Afghan War. US President Ronald Reagan poured billions of dollars to the Afghan resistance, many ending up in the hands of the jihadists including Osama bin laden. Pakistan also played a major role in this conflict

    • @tomw6947
      @tomw6947 2 года назад +32

      @@armandotalampas4800 Also left out the part where Russia started killing Afghan women and children to try force the Afghan people into submission. Could have also mentioned that all the Afghan refugees (children) who fled to Pakistan is how the Taliban was formed.

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael 2 года назад +6

      @@armandotalampas4800 he didn't?

  • @karny96
    @karny96 Год назад +28

    The raid on the palace is the most Russian special operation I’ve ever heard of

  • @lyleslaton3086
    @lyleslaton3086 Год назад +20

    Soviets read the book on Vietnam, they copied the part where you overwhelmed the enemy with wiz-bang technology. They didn't read the last chapter, titled It Didn't Work. Looks like they took the same play book to Ukraine.

  • @PerfectSense77
    @PerfectSense77 Год назад +16

    Your explanation on the palace assault was excellent. I previously read about it but the way you worded it explained the events very precisely and cleared up some misconceptions I had.

  • @JoshEmerson0421
    @JoshEmerson0421 2 года назад +65

    The amount of information you give every time is astonishing. Thank you guys for all your hard work.

  • @jameslovallo9603
    @jameslovallo9603 2 года назад +42

    I was stationed at the bottom of Tajbeg hill. I've never seen a picture of the palace before it was destroyed. The area was littered with destroyed Russian equipment and fighting positions

  • @ilajoie3
    @ilajoie3 2 года назад +144

    I'm glad you covered this. Despite being in Afghanistan twice I never looked too much in detail about the modern history which let to the current situation

    • @ilajoie3
      @ilajoie3 2 года назад +5

      The mention of both Khost and Gardez really hit home because I had been stationed nearby and would normally go through the two cities

    • @robertharper3754
      @robertharper3754 2 года назад +12

      The US military did a terrible job on educating people on the history of Afghanistan and Iraq, knowing that history and having a clear exit goal would have helped a hell of a lot.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 2 года назад +2

      Caspian report did a very good video discussing the history of Afghanistan from the 1950s to the modern day

    • @robertharper3754
      @robertharper3754 2 года назад +3

      @@rejvaik00, it really was a great video, but to me it has always felt like the US forgot history when they went into Afghanistan, and there were only certain times where they remembered it.

    • @FMSFWW
      @FMSFWW 2 года назад

      @@robertharper3754 mmm

  • @danteelmore9624
    @danteelmore9624 2 года назад +13

    Well, I knew and hoped this subject was coming and was so excited to see it. You should go deeper, Simon. I’m sure there’s more you can dig up.

  • @amanullah1290
    @amanullah1290 2 года назад +22

    Hey I’m the guy who made the 1860 Afghanistan map, thanks for using it!

    • @voltray7643
      @voltray7643 2 года назад +2

      noor!!

    • @sellers737
      @sellers737 2 месяца назад

      the one at 1:37 ? why use a modern map then? the Aral Sea was much larger at the time

  • @christopherengel7436
    @christopherengel7436 Год назад +14

    Thanks Simon. I enjoy a lot of your channels but Warographics becoming a favorite because I love to learn.

  • @theidahotraveler
    @theidahotraveler 2 года назад +24

    Sweet I've been wondering about this war and I'm glad you did something i learn from your videos really well. Thanks

    • @firstnamelastname5449
      @firstnamelastname5449 2 года назад

      Same! I learned things about the Vietnam war as specific as the types of traps the north Vietnamese used when I was in school, but learned almost nothing about the soviet-afghan war besides that it was “the Soviets’ Vietnam”

  • @aaronpylinski9082
    @aaronpylinski9082 2 года назад +33

    It would be awesome to see a sequel to this. Post-Soviet to the assassination of Masoud. Great job, BTW!!! I really enjoyed this video.

    • @x7v0
      @x7v0 Год назад

      massoud was an ISI dog, there are thousands of proof that massoud was working for ISI, he even said it himself, it was Najib who Kicked the USSR, massoud was a Tajik national traitor, "Tajik"= ethnicity

  • @kennethblachlyjr3040
    @kennethblachlyjr3040 Год назад +2

    Look forward to this. And so far you are informative and dispassionate about the issue. Whith those 2 things you are at your best Simon!!!

  • @nickmauldin8825
    @nickmauldin8825 2 года назад +12

    “The Mujahideen. You may know them as the bad guys from 9/11…or the good guys from Rambo 3”. (Another RUclipsr).

  • @KW-qd1bi
    @KW-qd1bi Год назад +8

    A video about the Tajikistan civil war would be a nice follow up

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner 2 года назад +2

    LOVE the new Warographics title screen!

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 2 года назад +49

    Soviet Military Strategy:
    Phase 1: Invade Nation
    Phase 2: ???
    Phase 3: Victory!

    • @aerialmacaroon6312
      @aerialmacaroon6312 Год назад +3

      Be invaded then counter invade profit

    • @notNajimi
      @notNajimi Год назад +2

      This is still Russia’s strategy today

    • @mineblock9024
      @mineblock9024 Год назад

      I guess we copied them and it turned out the same

  • @WillBoothe3
    @WillBoothe3 2 года назад +4

    Good work. I like this video. Very informative

  • @randalpumpkin2788
    @randalpumpkin2788 2 года назад +3

    This was excellent as always :D

  • @nugboy420
    @nugboy420 2 года назад +4

    Dude ur polarized lenses impress me every time I notice them :)

  • @adamdunbar2668
    @adamdunbar2668 Год назад

    Love the content! Thank you for the knowledge!

  • @welshman8954
    @welshman8954 Год назад +10

    I served in Afghanistan three times in the British army and they dont call it the graveyard of empires for nothing

  • @cheesypoofs2387
    @cheesypoofs2387 2 года назад +93

    Simon, the face you made when you talked about most nations being invaded by the British Empire. 😂

    • @brianticas2068
      @brianticas2068 Год назад +8

      British empire was impressive in it's heyday.

    • @espn2829a
      @espn2829a Год назад

      @@brianticas2068 Evil and barbaric, more like it. They need to return trillions to India.

    • @brianticas2068
      @brianticas2068 Год назад +1

      @@espn2829a so we're the mongols evil and barbaric as well. I think every empire does what it needs to do to get what they want unfortunately. Every empire is evil.

    • @brianticas2068
      @brianticas2068 Год назад +1

      @@lisov4575 see the problem is Russia had communism and shitty cold weather. So how many people in the world love sharing communism and love the cold. Not that many. Whereas USA and great Britain say there's democracy and that there's capitalism. There you have it. That's one of the reasons why Russia is hated and the west isn't. You get it.?

    • @Nik-xi2ri
      @Nik-xi2ri Год назад +3

      What happened to you guys? You used to be the beacon and force of democracy and personal freedom.

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 2 года назад +9

    To answer your opening question, I point you to a quote by Gen. Ethan Allen. It was posted in Jericho, VT, at the Army's Mountain Warfare School.
    *The gods of the valleys are not the gods of the hills.*

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna Год назад +5

    Fun Fact: Unit fighting at 21:10 was same unit that participated in Operation Storm-333, 9th Company of the 345th Air Assault Brigade.

  • @Grayman58
    @Grayman58 Год назад +10

    Iam British and after watching this iam amazed how many times we as a nation have stuck our nose into other people's country's and messed them up and then left .

    • @EonServoXA
      @EonServoXA Год назад +3

      That's the entire history of Great Britain summarized

    • @Calidore1
      @Calidore1 Год назад

      You can't judge by our modern standards

    • @GreoGreo
      @GreoGreo Год назад

      It is what it is.

    • @denilsonmestre3577
      @denilsonmestre3577 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Calidore1Say that to the country that was left in ruins, easy to find excuses when is not your pain

  • @timlewis2605
    @timlewis2605 2 года назад +4

    This is the most concise video which fully encapsulates the story of the Soviet-Afghan War I’ve seen. Great job!

  • @spartan3514
    @spartan3514 Год назад

    Simon, you do this too?!? I had no idea!! Of course I subscribed! This is an awesome surprise!

  • @chriscreaturo8809
    @chriscreaturo8809 10 месяцев назад

    I'm from Ontario, Canada and I remember speaking with a man who fought in the war. He was my Uber driver one night and he told me fought through the later years of the war. It was a very surreal moment for me and I'll never forget that man

  • @reconsoldier135
    @reconsoldier135 2 года назад +14

    You should do a video on the battles of Fallujah

  • @Brettzcassette
    @Brettzcassette 9 месяцев назад

    This channel is fantastic!

  • @bigbird0993
    @bigbird0993 2 года назад +5

    Hey Simon I love watching all your channels especially the graphics channels was just curious could you do the Soviet polish war the Korean war or the Cambodian civil war ? Thanks

  • @visiblybored
    @visiblybored Год назад +6

    10:12 “We’re outnumbered 4 to 1”
    Spetznas: “then it is an even fight”

  • @gyllkrans
    @gyllkrans Год назад +3

    "...continously lying about success while in reality they were stuck in the mud." Now this reminds me of something.

  • @leeroyloke8415
    @leeroyloke8415 2 года назад +32

    Any chance this channel could give us videos covering the Anglo-Afghan Wars and the Russian and British imperial wars in Central Asia and Indian subcontinent respectively?

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 2 года назад +3

      How about the American-Afghan war?

    • @christopherjones8448
      @christopherjones8448 Год назад +1

      @@theawesomeman9821 Isn't most of the info on that one still classified? Be hard to give concrete info if it is

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Год назад

      @@christopherjones8448 everything should be declassified since the war has been over for several months

    • @mityace
      @mityace Год назад +2

      @@theawesomeman9821 Nah, as long as enough people who'll look worse if the classified stuff is disclosed are in power, there will be no declassification of information.

    •  Год назад

      The Anglos had their ass handed to them. Fire arms technology completely favored the Afghans in that war.

  • @nate4036
    @nate4036 2 года назад +197

    Afghanistan reminds me of Vietnam. It’s not that they’re amazing soldiers, but no matter how many you kill, they just keep coming. When one of their soldiers goes down, it seems two replaced him. The 26th and 15th MEUs had a spirited surprise, being the first Marines on the ground. If it hadn’t been a joint task operation with the US Army and special forces, it may not have went as smoothly. Recon, Green Berets, and Seal teams are really the ones that controlled the situation. We knew every move they made. Sadly Afghanistan went to hell really quickly after 2003 when IEDs really ramped up. I’m convinced that country is incapable of being controlled unless the Rules of Engagement were ignored and then take it by savage aggression, much the same way we were treated.

    • @matthewdopler8997
      @matthewdopler8997 2 года назад +36

      It is often said that the Soviet-Afghan War was their version of Vietnam for the US. Difference was that the US economy was much bigger and and the Soviet nations were willing to break away given the chance.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 2 года назад +37

      Yeah the only way anyone truly ever pacified Afghanistan was through sheer brutality and only one foreign conquerors did that the Mongols
      They were relentless, often burning entire towns to the ground and worse Implementing the wagon wheel policy
      Basically any child that was taller than a wagon wheel was killed, the Mongols did this in an effort to prevent acts of revenge from festering in the upcoming generation

    • @nate4036
      @nate4036 2 года назад

      It’s really sad to see how most of the population lives. It’s a view into biblical Old Testament times. Yet the radicals have made it their playground. Such a beautiful place, but there’s no hope in recovering the country. They’re set in their ways and preach hate on the western world.

    • @armandotalampas4800
      @armandotalampas4800 2 года назад +26

      @@rejvaik00 Alexander the Great did that 15 centuries prior to the Mongol invasions. His empire may have broken up but a Greek successor state in Afghanistan survived until the 1st century AD

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 2 года назад +15

      @@armandotalampas4800 yes that's true but he didn't not do any sort of a brutal massacre campaign but the Mongols did

  • @Kevan808
    @Kevan808 Год назад +8

    Served there '06-'07; beautiful country. I had always hoped the country would find peace and I would be able to bring my children there. Likely no peace in my lifetime.

    • @BattingMyLashes
      @BattingMyLashes Год назад +1

      Sending you love. Thank you for your service. I am a Tajik Afghan and I was born in the US. I always long to just see it once and walk across the earth of Afghanistan in peace… I guess it’s a dream for us all now.

    • @Kevan808
      @Kevan808 Год назад

      @@BattingMyLashes I hope you're able to fulfill your dream one day 🙏

  • @slimg67
    @slimg67 Год назад +1

    I always heard stories but now I know what really happened. Thanks for this awesome video! 👍

  • @dankirslis5279
    @dankirslis5279 2 года назад +5

    I don't mean to brag but I knew that Simon would cover this topic eventually.

  • @andyyang3029
    @andyyang3029 2 года назад +2

    Absolute banger!

  • @stevenbaumann5911
    @stevenbaumann5911 Год назад +28

    I know in a lot of cases the US government tie the hands of our soldiers and it made it that much harder to fight. But even if didn't tie their hands, how would you win such a war. It is often said that Americans don't have the stomach for prolonged Wars. But to be honest I think no one really does. It is different if you are fighting for your home. Wars like Vietnam and Afghanistan proof that once you lose popular support, defeat is inevitable.

    •  Год назад +5

      That's a good point. Korean war was able to fight to a standstill because it was short-lived. Actually, America is willing to fight wars. America is not willing to pay for costly occupation.

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions Год назад

      The only way to win a war against local guerilla fighters is to completely isolate their borders so nothing gets in or out, and then genocide the people in that country and psychologically destroy whatever survivors there are. If you don't have the stomach to commit to genocide then don't bother because all you'll do is give hate-driven motivation to the next generation of children and lead them to be the next people to give you grief.

    • @iplaygames8090
      @iplaygames8090 Год назад

      For the soviets afghanistan was in their backyard, directly on their border actually. A jihadi goverment would be dangerous for their southern republics.

    • @seventh-hydra
      @seventh-hydra Год назад

      It's moreso the fact that Presidents want to be re-elected so they just pull the plug in a vain attempt to reverse their declining popularity. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

    • @crazychase98
      @crazychase98 Год назад +1

      Not tying the hand of the military is a good start to win wars

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner 2 года назад +11

    The Whistler sure knows how to tell war history and war strategy.
    Very helpful video, thank you for making it.

  • @biejaleslol1225
    @biejaleslol1225 Год назад +6

    my dad was a spetznaz in afganistan, he was in a city near kabul i forgot the name and he told me that he used to ambush caravans of muyahadin, they droped him in helicopters and stayed days waiting for convoys of muyahadin equipment he was also in eritrea before afganistan training the army there

  • @dannielson2946
    @dannielson2946 Год назад

    Maybe a bit more combat footage mate? 🤔 great 👍 voice you sound legitimate and the way you put this together is so well structured . Good on ya for keeping history alive my RED bearded brother . Jolly good 👍 God speed.

  • @alexgheorghita4583
    @alexgheorghita4583 Год назад

    Another day, another one of Simon s channels that I just find out about.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 2 года назад +14

    It's pretty tragic how much war and bloodshed Afghanistan went through

    • @aryanpashtun416
      @aryanpashtun416 2 года назад +1

      It was worth it. We are our own people and we don't need anyone else's help. The central banking system and woke politics of degeneracy can burn in hell.

    • @alimo606
      @alimo606 2 года назад

      True

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 Год назад

      @@aryanpashtun416 maybe depends where you are. What part of Afghanistan do you live in? People in the countryside are still poor.

    • @aryanpashtun416
      @aryanpashtun416 Год назад +1

      @@matty6848 I'm from Asadabad, Kunar province.

    • @chadzahirshah2588
      @chadzahirshah2588 Год назад

      @@aryanpashtun416 Hello fellow Afghan. My family pretty much got deported during the soviet afghan war so we now escaped to the US, what’s the current Afghanistan like?

  • @wesselbonnet2561
    @wesselbonnet2561 2 года назад +4

    Simon how about a video on the USS Iowa turret explosion? Think it would be a good fit for the channel!

    • @monkmoto1887
      @monkmoto1887 Год назад +1

      It was such a shame what the navy did to that man’s name after he died

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 Год назад +37

    Massoud was one of the greatest guerrilla leaders seen during The Afghan War. He almost seemed superhuman.

    • @homersimpson6585
      @homersimpson6585 Год назад

      Honestly this man carried the northern alliance during their fight against the Taliban, if only the USA listened to him when he warned them about Osama bin laden

    • @BactrianNomad
      @BactrianNomad Год назад

      Indeed

    • @madgavin7568
      @madgavin7568 Год назад

      His death in 2001 was the end of any hope for a bright future in Afghanistan.

  • @chewydewok
    @chewydewok 2 года назад +8

    I've heard some people refer to this war as the Soviet Union's Vietnam.

    • @braxtonjones6163
      @braxtonjones6163 2 года назад +2

      It is except the Vietcong weren’t terrorists.

    • @yoloswaggins7121
      @yoloswaggins7121 2 года назад +2

      @@braxtonjones6163 That's probably debatable, but it is different in that the US were also fighting against an actual nation in North Vietnam

    • @yoloswaggins7121
      @yoloswaggins7121 2 года назад +5

      I always saw it like this. The Russians were upset that the US was acting like the sole superpower and decided that they deserved their own Vietnam debacle lol

    • @cri_c
      @cri_c Год назад

      Was it Revolver Ocelot?

  • @stateradio115
    @stateradio115 2 года назад +11

    Are there other instances in other wars of a country dropping manakin para troopers for the explicit purpose of drawing fire and subsequently exposing enemy positions? I know it was done in some WW2 operations but for different reasons if I recall correctly.

  • @MrBellsa61
    @MrBellsa61 2 года назад +5

    1:37 a video on the Great Game would be so damn cool! Check out Peter Hopkirk's book on the subject!

  • @thevenbede767
    @thevenbede767 Год назад +1

    You should probably add battle and campaign maps to help with knowing what is going on

  • @TheEvilCommenter
    @TheEvilCommenter 2 года назад +1

    Good video 👍

  • @No_Feelings
    @No_Feelings Год назад +36

    It's 2022 and Russia still hasn't realized there's a difference between occupying a country and ruling a country

    • @uk6396
      @uk6396 Год назад +7

      Like the USA

    • @baha3alshamari152
      @baha3alshamari152 Год назад +2

      @@uk6396
      The US did learn in the hard way
      I think Russia will find out in harder way

    • @mineblock9024
      @mineblock9024 Год назад

      That's a lesson the US will never learn

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 2 года назад +56

    Someone should make a movie about Ahmad Shah Massoud. The man had an epic life.

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 2 года назад +12

      Hyper underrated

    • @George_Wong
      @George_Wong 2 года назад

      Al-Qaeda went out of their way to kill him 2 days before attacking the United States because they knew he would have wiped their ass off with direct American support.

    • @Roccinante
      @Roccinante Год назад +7

      Sandy Gall wrote a book about him

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Год назад +14

      The death of Ahmad Shah Massoud the day before 9/11 will go down as one of the biggest tragedies in afghan history.
      He would have made a great leader of the nation, he was beloved by the people and wasn’t a religious fanatic. I fully believe that had he lived to see America’s invasion, he would have been the nations first president and he would have ensured that mess Afghanistan turned into didn’t happen.

    • @karthiktirumala1773
      @karthiktirumala1773 Год назад

      @@Kaiserboo1871 Massoud's son is actually fighting the Taliban at Panjshir as we speak. He has his own army which is still operating even after the US left.

  • @lathenhertel8564
    @lathenhertel8564 Год назад +3

    Would love to see an episode on Operation Redwing, the mission the movie Lone Survivor is based on.

  • @norbitcleaverhook5040
    @norbitcleaverhook5040 2 года назад +9

    Afghanistan had John Rambo on their side too.

  • @francisfay5190
    @francisfay5190 Год назад +3

    Simon, can you cover Hue at some point please?

  • @mattmatsulavavge5752
    @mattmatsulavavge5752 2 года назад +4

    The Iran-Iraq war would be a good topic for this channel

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 2 года назад

      There are many good videos about it already

  • @trentspears9118
    @trentspears9118 Год назад +2

    Me: (looks at channel name) Ooh a new RUclipsr
    (Opens video and immediately sees Simon)
    How the hell does he have time for all this??

  • @ivorybishop2194
    @ivorybishop2194 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @nrsrymj
    @nrsrymj 2 года назад +3

    The Simon Whistler RUclips Empire expands once again.

  • @hansmerker5611
    @hansmerker5611 2 года назад +3

    I suggest:
    Ceasears campaigns in Gaul
    The battle of Carrahe
    The battle of Watling Street

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 Год назад

    Oh, should we congratulate Simon on being the first operating YT Content Clone !

  • @iVETAnsolini
    @iVETAnsolini Год назад

    The amount of channels this guy has!

  • @cpt-cheese3489
    @cpt-cheese3489 2 года назад +8

    I didn't even know this channel existed, Simon please get some sleep

    • @reconsoldier135
      @reconsoldier135 2 года назад +1

      Seriously, dude has like 10 channels

    • @shadowprepper9358
      @shadowprepper9358 2 года назад +6

      He has 13, sadly I know this cause I'm subscribed to all of them

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 2 года назад +3

      Don't worry. Simon has a clone for every channel.

  • @muzzer5327
    @muzzer5327 2 года назад +3

    4 times youtube has put this next in the algorithm. 4 frigging times. If I wanna watch it again I will lol

  • @NBegian
    @NBegian Год назад +1

    18:51 that was awkward

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @dylanvienet7923
    @dylanvienet7923 2 года назад +8

    Ahmad Shah Massoud would make for a great Biographics video.

  • @WestCooly
    @WestCooly Год назад +5

    Please do Iran-Iraq! Very interesting, intense, and tragic.

  • @howtodad1358
    @howtodad1358 Год назад +1

    I had the honor of being born in 79. This video made me relive all those we went through. The misery continues

    • @johns3544
      @johns3544 Год назад +3

      Living in EastGermeny from 45 on word was hell in it self never mind any thing else.

    • @brianticas2068
      @brianticas2068 Год назад

      You born in Russia or Afghanistan?

  • @brianmirrasi6389
    @brianmirrasi6389 Год назад

    Well said

  • @gay_putin_
    @gay_putin_ Год назад +4

    The Stinger missile was crazy advanced during that time

  • @maximillianbajkay9027
    @maximillianbajkay9027 2 года назад +3

    Hi Simon, any chance of a video about the Hungarian 1956 revolution?

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL Год назад

    Interesting video.

  • @macmiller1678
    @macmiller1678 Год назад +2

    You could do a 2 parter on the American Vietnam war!

  • @markross2124
    @markross2124 Год назад +3

    At lot of parallels with the USA's Vietnam war.

  • @derekwillbanks5645
    @derekwillbanks5645 2 года назад +5

    You should cover the battle of 73 easting and the gulf war... It was after seeing the performance of the m1 Abrams tank that Russia said the only way to stop an American armored advance was with tactical nuclear weapons. That says quite a bit.

  • @hieronymusbutts7349
    @hieronymusbutts7349 Год назад

    Why is this in your WWI playlist? You have so many videos, it would be nice if the playlists were curated properly.
    Maybe I'll just make my own at some point.

  • @richtygart6855
    @richtygart6855 Год назад +2

    A great movie about that war is called Charlie Wilson's War starring Tom Hanks

  • @bluesdoggg
    @bluesdoggg Год назад +3

    This war sounds so familiar

  • @rtasvadam1776
    @rtasvadam1776 2 года назад +14

    Mountains are a defenders dream.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Год назад +1

    Reuters article dated Sept. 28, 2022 described a deal between Taliban and Russia to supply gasoline, diesel, gas and wheat to Afghanistan. Strange times.

  • @jakebak3008
    @jakebak3008 9 месяцев назад

    I love this war because metal gear solid 5 is centred around this conflict, and also sabaton made a song about hill 3234

  • @jay-t1030
    @jay-t1030 2 года назад +35

    Fast forward to 2022 and Russian's military strategy hasn't got any worst...

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 2 года назад +15

      🇺🇦✊️

    • @apelsinuke
      @apelsinuke 2 года назад +8

      @Jay-T you mean hasn't gotten any better? i guess that english is not your native language (either)

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 2 года назад +4

      Lies

    • @Fernando5455Jr
      @Fernando5455Jr 2 года назад

      Not surprising, especially since their leader Putin is a relic of the Cold War.

    • @claudespeed277
      @claudespeed277 Год назад

      I mean, firstly it wasn't russians and ure blatantly ignorant of the other races in the ussr. The correct term is soviet. Secondly, after breaking up like that obviously all the former Soviet nations are weak as shit, not a threat to anyone.

  • @kevinb1574
    @kevinb1574 2 года назад +4

    Watching this makes me wonder why we thought we were going to do better? It was longer and just about as bloody. In the end the results were the same, the country is worse off then it was when we entered. So many lives lost and for what?

  • @bartholomew6429
    @bartholomew6429 9 месяцев назад +2

    In my personal opinion our involvement in Afghanistan during this war was kind of dumb. Both sides of the conflict were no friends of ours. The mujahideen basically got a bunch of shiny new weapons because we just love sticking it to Russia. However all of those shiny guns were just used on us not long afterwards. Even without good ol’ hindsight I feel our government should’ve known better.

  • @kingbowser6991
    @kingbowser6991 Год назад +6

    Love the video, would def like more Soviet videos about their military, very fascinating to me. I’m a veteran

    • @billybigballs5776
      @billybigballs5776 Год назад

      There are plenty of video documentaries about Soviets in Afghanistan.Their operations,life while their there.But most of them in Russian.Prob have subtitles.

  • @mitchellneu
    @mitchellneu 2 года назад +3

    🎵Hold your ground when you’re fighting those who fight
    Death is waiting on the hill, no surrender, shoot to kill
    You have to hold your ground, kill the warrior in your sights
    Death is waiting on the hill, no surrender, shoot to kill🎵
    “Hill 3234” by Sabaton

    • @lukedeyoung6703
      @lukedeyoung6703 2 года назад +1

      came down here just to find me some sabaton.

    • @mitchellneu
      @mitchellneu 2 года назад

      @@lukedeyoung6703 you have good taste friendo