46] Our New Boat Sank | Abandon Comfort - Lyle Hess Boat
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Thank you Art of Hookie for lending us your ear for an hour to chat about our Falmouth's brief visit with Neptune and the potential ramifications from her time under. Being able to pick Alan's brain prior to buying our FC22 was a huge help. Check out the tiny liveaboard guru's channel here -> ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=art+of+hookie
You guys were missed. Take care :)
Very cool episode but definitely a "Click Baitey" title. :)
When i got of The Marines May73 i went to work on motor and.sailboats.60ft.and up only.I loved Newport Beach,Cali.Also worked on many Grand Banks they used alot of Teak on decks and handrails
Abandon Comfort 🥝 glad to see you guys are pursuing this kind of sustainable cruising,something that has interested me for ever.
I have no qualifications but I am aware that EVs use regenerative braking to extend their range. If your auxiliary drive is electric is there similar technology that you could use for battery charging? I think this is a grand project, thanks for sharing.
Y'all can't change that boat. You are custodians of it. Preserve it. Enjoy it. Keep it true.
And don't put a f'n electric motor on the outside. Seriously?
@@captainfish7236 good thing about owning your own boat - you can do what ever you want to it!
Clickbait! I have a recommendation for the title. “Our new boat previously sank”
Their new boat, did it sink?
Also possible: "Our new boat will sink one day."
@@christiangeiselmann Or: "Thanks for clicking."
They are not father and daughter?
They're not wrong tho
If you guys are not going to come back please say goodbye so we all quit checking for your posts! I hope to hear from you soon. I wish you good luck!
I think these guys are done.
What happened to you two? I binge watched all your videos and then got to #46 on November 1, 2018, and nothing has been posted since then. From reviews and comments, I'm guessing you have both had enough, with all the thumbs down and negative comments? I must say, I enjoyed your adventure and content. I never make a negative comment, toward someone will to share their lives with the world. I hope to see you come back and start posting again. Good Luck, and remember, it's your life to what you want to with the time on earth you have been given.
yeah I was wondering too... kind of want to know what happend... wanted to welcome them to Hamburg Germany someday with their new/old boat... kinda sad :(
So what happened? These guys gave up on this? Next video in their sequence, they’re in Japan.
And I know they didn’t sail there.
Ira Rather she cheated on him they broke up shows over
@@patcb1478 are you serious? Where in japan?
How to ruin a wonderful classic boat give it a young eco warrior
It's a minor miracle that you were able to find the builder and talk to him. Getting the chance to reminisce with him first hand like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Be sure to write up and document the information you learned. When you some day hand her off to the next caretaker that will be priceless to that future owner.
Ditch the Diesel , Builder rolls his Eyes......
So glad to see a new video from you guys. Hope all is well and I can’t wait to see the boat refit, I know y’all are going to do amazing. Hope to see more videos soon. Take care guys 👍⛵️
Thank you for the update on the knowledge you are gaining about your boat/home/passion! I used to sail before I married, but my lovely bride of 32 years would just get so motion sick regardless of her medicating for it, that I gave it up. Now our two children are now adults themselves and my son has a true passion for the water! I am excited for you and with you to see your progress and accomplishments in getting the boat all sorted and back in the water.
When I read that the boat had sunk I was thinking "Oh Nooooo", glad to find that it was just another chapter in it's history and not something that happened to you! Looking forward to more...
Munro
Welcome back , don’t let the haters bring you down. You be you. Sooooo cool, talking to the builder, keep up the great work.
Holy mackerel, you guys hit the jackpot! Similar boats are the 20’ Flika and Dana 24’ made by Pacific Seacraft. I know of one gentleman at the Hawaii Yacht Club who lives on a Flika 20’. Standing headroom in this size range is amazing. I think your boat has standing head room? The magic footage in common sailboats is 27 feet. You begin to see standing head room down bellow starting at about 27’. My 2nd boat was a 26’ Ranger (Gary Mull). No standing headroom in that Ranger 26’ messed up my back having to crouch over constantly. I remember seeing the wooden mast in your previous video, 2 thumbs up. Boats on the hard & in a boat shed has time to stay in good condition & dry out.
This is probably why I can relate to your journey: 1) adopting the Paradey philosophy in boating 2) every work/maintenance done on your boat becomes special because of it’s amazing history. Working on your boat is now craftsmanship and a love affair instead of “I gotta fix this damn thing so we can get going to the next destination “ 3) One of the first things I did on my Ranger 26 was remove the thru Hull for the head & had the yard glass seal it up. One less hole in boat to worry about.
Your channel should grow like crazy because you are an adorable couple.
You don't have to use the diesel, being out on the blue is the last place you want to find out you wish you had the power and reliability. You can run used cooking oil for fuel. I was 1500 nm from Hawaii i sat for 2 days, the ocean was like glass with no wind, i had the engine but didn't use it, quiet, peaceful it was paradise. You can't imagine how dark it is. The engine could be the difference between life and death, there is no help. You are in a shipping lane its dark, oh the ship is 10 miles away. You have everything but time, the ship will be on top of you in no time. You can signal, use the radio, there will be no one in the bridge at night. This is not a situation you want.
The best tool you can have is a big fireman's axe. You will have maybe 2 minutes to find a fire, the axe is the fastest way to find it. If not you will be abandoning ship.
Lots of things will hurt you. Shipping lanes and fires will kill you.
To this day i can sleep for 15 minutes and be ok for 8 hours.
Keep the diesel engine.
My boat isn't small, well only 350 feet smaller than the boat that almost ran us down. We were in 34 knots breeze, 3-4 metre waves at night, AIS showing where we were, full official colreg lights. We called them, eventually a sleepy Asian guy answered, saying nope, hadn't seen us. We lit up the sails and he said nope, still can't see you. We even gave him the bearing to us, and he said, well I can't see you but I'll give you 5 degrees. It was like the Empire State building passed us. Only one guy on the bridge. We had one reef in, hard on the wind and 3 knots of current, doing 2 knots over ground with the engine on. Just the place to not have an engine.
An engine is your first and most important safety feature. Assuming that one day you are also going to leave home port, you need tankage for a minimum of 250 miles range and preferably up to 1,000 miles. Keep the engine and add a supplemental fuel tank.
Think hard about the engine. We met Lynn and Larry in AKL when they lived on an Island. While they sailed without engine offshore, inshore they did have challenges and even went on rocks in AKL. The small diesel you have would not cost much to run at all. Battery powered OB will struggle to push that boat.
A traditional classic that sails fast!! great find, beautiful boat.
So awesome to get to talk to the man who built this beauty! This boat has an amazing history so far and you are so lucky to have gotten it first hand. Hats off to the builder of her! We only just found your channel and have a lot of catching up to do but it sounds like you two have begun a lifestyle that will suit you well! Very smart!
"The original owner was a custom cabinet maker" - someone
"I had never even built a table before this boat." - original owner
Haha classic. Glad you guys are back. Good luck with the work ahead of you.
I have ordered up two cans of "how d'ya like me now" one for you guys, and one for Ryan and Kelesy!
Forget that a thousand square feet of sail ! Now that's impressive! No wonder he won a load of races. Now to get very good at sailing off anchor and tacking into anchorages, in fairness she should be a very forgiving yacht and if I am being honest I think she will probably handle very well and be manageable as a sail only yacht, best of luck to them unconventional but nobody's fools and I for one am looking forward to seeing her at sea.
If you want to be sustainable and safe, with a cruising yacht, please leave the diesel motor in it , , electric are great for marina maneuvers, but in case of an emergency , lose of rig, atvsea, your endurance with electric is useless, .
Diesels can run on Diesel fuel , vegetable oil, peanut oil, and give you greater endurance , while still being sustainable.
Just a thought, look on utube for BURPEG they are rebuilding a trawler for antartic cruising , useing vegetable oil as a fuel.
Why is this any of your business? If they want all electric, your job is to sit back and watch the show.
100% agree
Beqcause , Imcan have an opinion , and this is an open forum, I do not say dont , I said that it is safer to keep the diesel , in a cruising boat, this is an opinion, .
Yes i watch the series, yes renewable power has a place, if you only use a boat in enclosed waters , with in 10 nauticial miles ofvthe coast , you might be ok.
If your doing passages , off shore , then electric motors do not have the endurance to save your skin, in the event of a demasting , or other emergency.
Note THIS IS AN OPINION, and I am free to give it.
Whether they change their minds , or not is not my concern.
You will note that i do not ,attempt to change it for them, .
And comment are for others to voice an opinion,
Jeffrey Lord ABSOLUTELY, sir, well said! I would add that they should look up others who have made the same choice, I believe they will find the technology, still isn’t far enough along to compete with the Diesel engine... I know they have extremely limited space, but what about fitting that crated diesel with a generator head? (something that closely matches their drive motor?) PURELY for emergency
So well said!
@@pavichapin
The electric motor is becoming very popular now. As you probably know, you can get a drop in ready plug and play system. My last two sailboats a 22' and a 27' had outboard auxiliary engines which I loved. One trip the 9.9 hp outboard pushed my 27' sailboat 80 miles @ 5 knots with wind on the bow and a current against us. It sipped the gas like it was brandy. Note: an electric motor (when it depletes the battery) and or sailing would have been a zig zagging, tacking joke. I saw an old man walking with a cane getting better linear distance while we close hauled it against the tide. I hate inboard diesels and the possible leaky fuel tanks, leaky hoses, noise and vibration. But......even then I would pick a diesel over an electric motor. A newer modern diesel is dependable and an efficient power house to get you through some tough situations. Electric motor? picking good weather windows and currents? Sure, it'll work...so will having no motor...but that old man will beat you to the destination and safer too. The electric motor will suck those batteries dry (yes, event the newest latest bestest battery) and you better be sure your sailing skills can get you out of trouble. A simple google search will show you the dark side of electric motors and the impact on the environment. There is extensive mining for the metals like nickel and lets not forget about Lithium and cobalt. The mining is bad but even worse is the toxic plumes of sulphur dioxide created smelting. They already have decades worth of toxic slag (a byproduct of producing batteries) they bury in the ground....kinda like sweeping it under the carpet. Electric vehicles are still few and there's already issues with the spent battery waste. What to do with all those batteries? Only a fraction of the materials are reusable. Let's make this easy....Electric Power: smelted toxic metals to produce an energy cell. Coal plants to produce your "clean energy" only a fraction are wind/ hydro/solar. God! the production/effects/impact of those are another story. Now, in the end you have a spent battery that becomes toxic waste in another form. Diesel Engine: a hunk of iron and metals with less mining impact and totally recyclable and less pollution doing so. A liquid fuel source that has less of a pollution foot print than batteries. Crude oil makes petroleum products which include gasoline, distillates such as diesel fuel and heating oil, jet fuel, waxes, lubricating oils...the list goes on and on...kinda like using every part of the animal...even the byproducts are used...like on a babies ass for a diaper rash. Heck, I may go the electric motor route for a daysailer because I like the idea of a quiet motor and don't need an outboard or diesel for safety. I just won't be ignorant about it...which may make things less fun...ignorance is bliss...it really is. I try to keep myself as ignorant as possible but shit keeps sneaking into my head.
Dude, you haven't travelled ANYWHERE "full time" in a boat yet!
Robert Mick millennial way. Look how unique we are, go no where.
Oh...now the boat sunk??? Lmao you both are crazy. Boy was that a cover you butt video. You never said a word about it sinking before.. You both are crazy
Keep the diesel. This is silly. Electric is the future, yes. This is true. BUT WE JUST AREN'T THERE YET. You are doing the environment no favors by adding all this environmentally unfriendly mass of lithium and electronics to replace a diesel engine that will burn VERY LITTLE fuel, if you actually do the math. This is a sailboat, after all.
Ryan & Kelsey , what a lovely conversation. I guess from this the boat was semi owner built or finished by Gary. Back in that era it was common in the UK for boats to be owner finished so a good tradition, not so the US. After his story of the teak decks I don't think you can remove the teak decks now! I think knowing the true history of a boat makes it so real. Well done getting the story of your 'English Girl' .what a shame you didn't at least record the conversation with the phone!
I Look forward to you continuing adventurers. Cheers Warren.
BenjaminFranklin99 Glad to hear it. In USA make home built boats can difficult to finance and insure. The uk environment made it much easier and some fiberglass boat company's specialized in providing kit boats for the home builder. That market has died down now.
What boat did you build? Grampian in CANADA were supplying hulls , see Distant shores 1. Cheers warren
@@CheersWarren I didn't finance or insure the boat. I built it 44 years ago, and it is still making voyages. It is a Skookum 34, built in Port Townsend, WA, USA, designed by Ed Monk Sr. of Seattle. The rig was designed by Blondie Hasler.
@ Real boat for real sailors, unlike abandon reason here
What a great video!... What an amazing history your boat has and your conversation with the first owner was incredible..His personal touches,the teak,the beautiful woodwork and the carvings are awesome............love your boat and thanks for sharing!
The least boat of any boat videos. Very off-putting people.
clickbait title! :/
Great episode. Enjoyed watching/listening. Very cool to have gotten to talk to the owner. He did gorgeous work.
Its so great to have a history. And a boat so lovingly hand made. Must give you so much please just looking at it, and the sailing will be a dream!
Cool, that was so awesome to get in touch with the original owner. But more cool to be able to see another of your videos. Been missing you for awhile now. So hard not having my Fav fix to watch for so long.
Hey consider a hybrid power source with enough power to run engin without bat use. I assume u will have a gen to charge bats if no sunny days. Also have u considered that the size of your boat limits the size of your pannels wich limits wattage. island hopping with out wind on bats is that even possible For days at a time. love ur dreams love the boat I know this is all possible but I can't see u getting away from fuels completely
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You’re back!!!
So basically this is now a DIY series about buying a boat, fixing it up and then selling it at a loss... oh and by the way guys, whatever amount of pollution you think you're preventing by not running a diesel for a couple hours a month at most, you've contaminated the world tenfold over the carbon footprint of those batteries that you're buying for your electric motor.
Think you guys messed up with this one I have lost interest what happened to the traveling I am going to unsubscribe. Thanks anyway
An electric outboard. Hmmm. Nah.
John Tripp
Missed that, what bullshit, stick with the diesel, fools. This channel looks to me like “stupid millenials think that sailing can be self sustaining”. Soon they will be fall prey to an indifferent sea.
Fucking hate millennials
I miss your channel. Sad the boat videos stopped.
That’s soooo cool that you dig deep enough to get the true back story on her!
That is so cool you got to talk to him about the boat. I am sure it give the boat more meaning too.
Good luck , just what we all need , two young RUclipsrs with no real life experience dreaming up magical ways to make power for all there needs without regard for other sailors that do have engines that will have to save you . You are no Lin and Larry
I'm trying so hard to stick around for this channel....but just losing interest so bad in boat history and restoration. Wanted to see some sailing and traveling!
Ah, we can dream can't we?! Someday!
Nope, and that's mostly my issue. I'm about 7 hours from the closest ocean, with a solid job, 6 month old, and 140 acres to take care of at home. Haha. Im watching channels now hoping to learn some and maybe do something like this in my 50s.
@@CaptainJimNoss I do have a motocross channel Jim! Coming up on 500 videos! Haha. Just not enough hours in the day to learn and do everything I'd love to do. Hopefully I won't have a 6 month old to take care of when I'm in my 50s lol
@@mxgryan You're doing it right. Focus on family and your passion (MX), there is always time for other chapters in life.
I appreciate that brother!
Renewable energy. Great decision guys. My wife, and I have been living aboard for almost ten years, and the solar power works well. You said that you didn't think that you had enough room on your boat. There are solar cells available (soft ones) on the net that you can configure the shape to meet your needs. Not very many boats with electric drives, but the ones that I have seen work well for getting you in, and out of harbor. Lithium phosphate batteries are also a good fit. The jury is still out on the cook top. (Try S/V Delos. They just installed a similar system). Thank you both for all your work that you put into your videos. Cheers, Merry Christmas. Ray
Wondering when you guys will get back to sailing?
I could have listened to you,s talking to that bloke on the phone all day , brilliant video , thank-you for sharing that with us
Are you ever gonna sail? Unsub’d
Great video guys, was beginning to wonder about you guys as to when we would see another video. That's really cool how you actually got to talk to the original owner/builder of the boat.
What a great adventure! You are doing it all right so far
Performance Handicap Racing Fleet (PHRF) is a handicapping system used for yacht racing in North America. It allows dissimilar classes of sailboats to be raced against each other. The aim is to cancel out the inherent advantages and disadvantages of each class of boats, so that results reflect crew skill rather than equipment superiority.
Don't mean to be Rude or attacking,,, but if you wanted to find a boat to Refit or modify. why did you choose a boat that the builder put so much time and passion into making. to only ruin it ? Once you modify it it will not be worth much money. Young people today think they got life all figured out and they are to smart for their own good. Don't try to be so intelligent and analytical about life's journey. Sometimes intelligence swings backwards. Enjoy life and don't make life harder by being so mathematical on every move you make in life. Just my opinion
Cool.
We have an awesome relationship with the former owners of our boat. We got to visit with them when we were in Baltimore for a couple of weeks last month. They got to be grandparents and visit the boat but not have to do any of the grunt work to keep her in shape.
I love to hear stories like this from our former owners and you guys are really blessed to be able to learn about yours from the man who built her with his own two hands. Bummer about the camera dying. Maybe a second camera running would be a good insurance policy for these irreplaceable shots.
Our boat almost sank the same way for the prior owners but they came back in time just as the water got up much over the sole, but it took on a lot of water. Another couple of hours...
Finally, that shirt...you have to be a real Jayne Cobb to wear a shirt or a hat that. A man walks down the street in that hat (or shirt), people know he's not afraid of anything.
Good to see you two more more more love to see this girl on the water
I Love your boat even more now.
So glad you're back! As I said before, she's beautiful and I can't wait to see what you do with her.
@@fredpearson5204 I'm not a patron ;) I do have to say that, after painfully over complicating my life with stuff, I appreciate the emphasis on minimalism. And perhaps I'm a bit jealous of their slacker lifestyles (not really ... I'm a serial entrepreneur and can't see myself ever retiring).
So happy to see another video post, great job as always. Looking forward to the day when your under sail again.
Sailboats used to have auxiliaries? Are you kidding me? They still do. You seem to want do anything unconventional only because it is Unconventional.
I guess it.might get views and maybe patrons, but not likely to be sustainable in crossing oceans.
These guys will never make a blue water passage - in this boat or any other.
Please do not sell the diesel engine. If you find yourself in a gale near a lee shore, or in rough seas near shoals, or in a hundred other life-threatening situations, and your batteries are running down, you'll find yourselves dead without that engine.Don't be foolish.
So are you guys going to spend another 2 years fixing the new boat I thought you wanted to sail not spend your time on land working on boats
^This. I started following AC because I thought this was going to be an amazing journey. They put out frequent content updates, and while refitting a boat isn't that exciting, at least the first time around it was novel and they put out frequent updates. Now it'll be, what, another year until we're at risk of an adventure? At least a video every two months means the motivation to un-sub is comparatively fleeting. *shrug*
You just know when this one is finished, they’ll sell it and have enough money from subs and patreons to buy land and build their house.
@@whatfor5 Didn't the road trip across the United States clue you in that it isn't a sailing only journey?
It's a bunch of hype, once again a clickbait title. cannot believe thousands of people are being sucked into this scam.
Great to see you guys putting up a new episode.
I really enjoy following you guys!
How cool to circle back to the builder and honor his efforts. I'm sure he is pleased to know how cherished all his hard work is to you. Well done!
He knew the plugs would still be sound before they even told him. :)
Sorry but these guys are milking the whole you tube thing, and full of BS
Nothing new in over a year. Did enjoy your past RUclips vids , but all of them are over a year old, so the time has for me to unsubscribed.
I’m not really sure you guys can call this a sailing channel . Lol
The sailing guy I guess them telling all of us 142 times that is it NOT a sailing channel still leaves room for confusion. Lol
Where are you guys?! We are killed by the suspense of what happens next! Hope you are doing well and loving your new boat!!!
Good content...but Jesus Derek, that shirt was made for a podcast!
Nice interview with the builder. Seems like an interesting fellow. What was his profession, pilot? Not that it matters, he just seems like an interesting guy.
I'm glad you two are back posting. Looking forward to seeing that boat on the water. Thanks for sharing AC.
Can you please use a less misleading title? I enjoyed how you talked to the original builder, you don’t need to try and lie about the situation. We watch you because you're interesting and want to see your adventure. Don’t act like your audience is stupid.
I agree a full 100%
Dude... that hair doo is absolutely fantastic! How did you achieve that?
PHRF is all theoretical. You will move at your boat speed from point A to B. So maybe she's fast, but you're waterline is your waterline. Have fun!
Okay so I just discovered them and watched ep9 first thinking okay wow where do they go then the titles literally show them selling that boat a few episodes later and now this boat like in ep9 he literally says “all this is worth it to sail” but they haven’t sailed anywhere lmao I feel like they should just drop boats and travel by car or van
"Consume Less," yeah, right. Something so wrong here. Trash a classic vessel and just... whatever.
That’s awesome, u guys truly found yourselves a Gem, good on ya 💙👍
Check out 'Air-head' composting heads. You just need a supply of peat moss, a bit of Marigold based bug spray and a low draw vent fan...
Good luck to you young kids. I love wood boats, I never owned anything but wood. Wood is what boats were made from for thousands of years and they just feel so natural and warm. When your sleeping at anchor on a rolling sea, nothing feels better or safer. Enjoy your life now, love your boat, love your dog always and most importantly, be best friends forever. I married the girl I had my first kiss with and 45 yrs. later she is still my girl, my best friend forever. I’m not able to enjoy boating anymore.
My daughter passed away 3 yrs ago and I’ve taken on the role of raising her little girl. She will need to go to college someday and owning, and maintaining my boat would take away her chance at a good education. I sold my boat recently and hope she will be taken care of. 40’ of beautiful wooden boat, she was my Magnum Opus , “ Jenny”
Gosh I miss that boat but after the loss of my daughter it just wasn’t the same. I smiled the whole time on board and I felt guilty for it. Strange huh.
Anyway, good luck kids.
May God bless you on your journey.
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So it didn't really 'sink' it was flooded. Too small though - loved your first boat. Cant believe you sold it.
Dumbest decision ever.
Followed for a while. So very dissapointed in how this turned out.
One poor decision after another.
I'm watching The Rigging Doctor you tube channel that has and electric drive. They just made a trip from the Bahamas to the Azores by way of Bermuda. They were caught in some high pressure areas where they had to just sit and wait for the wind to start blowing. To me Electric drive just doesn't seem practical unless you have a huge battery bank and massive solar capabilities like the Solar Wave 54 catamaran
Something people don't talk enough about, when it comes to "renewable energy" - It requires a ton of energy to mine the materials, proper personnel protection and waste management is not practiced in the third world countries where these materials are mined, and at the end of battery life we can expect fewer than 5% will be properly recycled. People think renewable energy is 100% clean and harmless, which is not true.
18yrs liveaboard 37 ft tayana, worked in marinas and boatyards for master riggers and manufactures, I respect dreamers and before I quit my career (21yrs), I read Pardy's books and others, some of which I met usually under disturbing circumstances, pushing books at shows or showing up at an anchorages with their trash boats, crapping in buckets, trespassing over private property, stealing water causing police to clear all of us out. We did not abandon comfort which has led to a 56yr marriage. Yes we had a wind generator (dangerous) which we dumped after 6 or 7 yrs and we had a small quiet honda generator which gave us power for entertainment when the wind was howling and We where stuck at deserted islands in the black of night , usually most of the winter. I know things have changed since I sold my boat in 2004 and if I was out fitting a boat today I be studying Tesla batteries and the cheaper solar panels but sometimes the tried methods are still best. I worked on many many boats and had many Dreamers pick my brain to the point of being annoying.I don't agree with some of your ideas. Always take the safe route and Stay Alive.
lots of episodes with boats on land
The is only one thing an engine/motor is absolutely required to do: and that is - to punch you off a lee shore in 70 knot winds and 4-6 meter breaking waves and a 5 knot current against you in the middle of the night. This will happen to you and you will only care about survival.
Hooker, you are fiction; Fraser you are truth. Circum navigators know the value of a diesel engine after a knock down and a demasting in stormy seas.
@Art Of Hookie, there are many experienced sailors with that attitude on the bottom with Davy Jones.
Hahaha any motor that would fit in that boat wouldn’t even be able to push against a 5kt current in a dead calm!
@Art of Hookie Experienced sailor? Lol
This boat on a lee shore in 70knots, in 4-6 metre breaking waves will need around 200 hp to claw off it, after each pitch pole that is. There are some great examples of what no engine does for you. Just ask Jean Socrates or look for Elsi Arub. Didn't end well.
They probably had a fight. I liked all the videos until they took that trip around the country. Kind of went downhill from there. Just young irresponsible kids having fun like I did at their age. Except mine was fast women, illegal drugs, Club Med and booze. Yes I finally got a real job at 30 and live off the memories, except have to have my month of Club Med to get my head straight every year. So cut these kids a break, this is just there party.
Keep your heads up and keep working for towards your dreams! Don’t let negative nancies in the comment section get you down or dissuade you from doing what you are passionate about. 100% green is doable- but perhaps 99% green is more practical? the safety factor of an engine shouldn’t be discounted and I have no idea how many batteries you’d need to carry to get a reasonable emergency range with an electric motor but I’d imagine it’s quite a lot. That being said just because you have a Diesel engine doesn’t mean you have to use it except in an emergency or perhaps to prevent you from getting into an emergency situation. Just become sailing wind wizards but keep the diesel as a standby! As for a composting toilet... my wife is trying to convince me to put one in our airstream. 😵 I’m not quite ready for that yet! I wish you the best of luck in your adventures!
Missed you guys! Glad your back. :)
How cool was that! Geez, I would have loved to meet that man.
No one can make a reasonable argument against "No holes below the waterline"? I am looking forward to seeing your experience with electric propulsion. And just wanted to say that PHRF is a handicapping method based on performance. Fast boats give time handicaps, slow boats receive time handicaps. What the old owner should have said was that your boat sails significantly above her rating.
good luck you two -- love ...Godspeed!!!
Ah, one never forgets a boat you poured your heart into. A dear friend bought a boat we spent 20 years restoring and sailing and when he calls me to ask a question, my eyes glisten. Listening to the builder, one could hear the happiness in his voice. Your call was a gift to him that no money could ever buy! Nice job and good deed. BTW, the Lyn and Larry Pardey ROCK! Met them at a boat show and we thought we were the only people there. Great video! Fair winds from Doug on WS42 Harmony
The etched glass of the owner's wife is gorgeous! Any chance we might see the compass rose replaced with an etched glass of Kelsey? A viewer can hope...
What a gift that he shared the history of his, now your, boat.
Sqeptick Janet
is the boat for sale?
How cool you found him, and got to talk to him! His love for the boat, and the amount of detail he cared about..shows in every nook and crevice, every corner and detail, and while he may not have been "a master cabinet maker who.."(funny, I got the same story about some beautiful woodwork on an item I bought once ;) he certainly was..and probably still is a very talented individual. I so hope you take a millions pictures of everything in and around it, and share them with him, besides sending him the links to previous videos showing it (would be cool if he also read my comments back then..hey, you never know ;). As the care he showed, and the concern, his voice falling when he heard she went down, and uplifting when he found out she still had so much of her sails and the special details{the port-side window for example} was off the charts cool. Hope you invited him to come see her, and would be great to see him do it!
Can’t wait for these guys to hit the water, if ever. The idealism is commendable but the universe really doesn’t give a shit about that. Will be great viewing no doubt about that!
I like your channel alot.
Afew thoughts though:
- If that boat was mine, I would not dare to change a thing.
- The practical propulsion power on any electric outboard is not comparable with an inboard.
- I have very hard time to believe you can fit enough batteries on such a small boat to gain a decent mileage.
- To cover every possible area on that boat with solar panels or wind generators or something to get enough power for the propulsion would ruin the looks of that absolute gem.
- In my opinnion if this boat was going to be used mostly for weekend sailing and was to be spent most of it's future life on the trailer (and charged by shore power or the tow truck), the electric would be OK.
But this is just me. The boat is yours now and I don't judge what ever way you go.
Started off great, turned pretentious quickly.I presume your channel is dead but hopefully you'll see this nonetheless.
I watched start to finish in a couple days. I loved how you started off; the motivation was high and you definitely have very good money skills. Those lessons are things you can absolutely pass on to others.
The refit was great, though it did seem you guys were afraid to actually begin your adventure. The HR352, was a much better boat for what you intended to do, whether you agree or not.
Somewhere along the way, you(Ryan) turned into a very different person. That is, a couple days sailing and now you felt knowledgeable about all things sailing. "Offshore" was drifting down the west coast of Florida. "Diving" was snorkeling in ten feet of water. You started to speak for Kelsey more and more, and it was really pretty rude. She seems like a really amazing woman that is far too in love with a delusional guy. One day soon, I predict the demise of this. Harsh, but it is really visible.
I found your channel through searching about refitting classic sailing yachts, and thought it would be a nice new take on the whole pay-for-me-to-sail thing, but it fell off when Ryan got more and more convoluted ideas as to what the channel was about, and what exactly "sustainable" means.
Touching on that as my last statement; LI batteries are massively pollutant. Electric does not just appear from thin air. Be it solar(where the panels are made of plastics and rare materials) wind(plastic again) or plugging into a source on land(miles of cable and coal, dams or nuclear power) you are not as green as you would like to imagine you are. You guys stripping the paint down to bare glass, was not only extremely wasteful time and product wise, but poisoned the earth to untold levels in doing so. There are countless other things to poke at, but I'll leave it with this. Bucking the system works, sometimes. When hundreds of years of sailing experience are telling you you're making a mistake, your first thought should not be to ignore it, but to pause and really think about what you're doing and if putting your lives at stake is worth trying to be unique. This is likely all moot, as your little trailer sailor will likely never make it to the Bahamas, let alone around the world.
A composting head is a wonderful thing, but a kitty bucket is not a composting head. Kinda like the difference between a destroyer and a kayak.
As I recall Joshua Slocum sailed around the world without anything more than sails on Spray? None the less, I believe you guys would be better off keeping the diesel for some peace of mind in no wind conditions and making or leaving ports.....Just my own opinion of course ;-)
Thanks guys for highlighting my comment :-) Love your Cutter!!!!!!!!!!!! Still looking for something very similar to cruise in one day....Love the beautiful woodwork and the glass etchings are beautifully done....I have three destinations on my bucket list: Alaska, Hawaii and Baja Mexico ;-) then possibly the South Pacific :-) I am 65 now, so I need to get started pretty soon!!!!! ;-)
Dreams of mine since high school :-)
Slocum sank.
All boats are inclined to and can sink, just the nature of the beast!!!! Yes but he still circumnavigated without an engine, till the day it did....But I agree they should have the engine in the shipping lanes or in an emergency....
Kinda sucks when a battery dies. But I bet you'll get used to it.
tbirdracefan yeah, I love these guys, might be a tad too much “tree hugging” for me, but they don’t beat us over the head too much about it... that said, they will probably survive the “electric motor” choice, mostly because of the boat’s unique efficiency? (proved by it winning all of it’s races for its class)
@@Studio51media Interestingly, the treehugger com website says a highly efficient diesel is less impactful to the environment in a car than lithiums. People forget what it takes to make a battery, and usually in countries that have no EPA and dump the byproducts in the water to feed the Tilapia. So in a boat, I'll bet a diesel using 50-100 gallons a year would be infinitely less impactful to the environment than a couple thousand amp-hours of lithium.
They get bummed out when the camera stops after no video for a month ... you will not survive on this boat with a. Electric motor.
×haha.... I knew the boat was originally named Josephine and they wanted to argue with me....
These two are really on ego trip that's going to end badly... hope a more deserving sailor comes along and offers them so much $$$ that they sell and stay yupees in the woods.
It amazes me the hypocrisy. Renewable energy with 300 year old teak. You dont need to use the diesel. You can have it as a backup in case you need it with the electric as primary.
Remember, sustainable doesnt sustain at night. It's great for a coast hopper but open ocean is nothing to gamble with.
Best designer ever, oh well what the hell should i know, lol... Michael Hess, Hess Marine...
so when you gonna put the tub in the water?
Getting that owner info was very cool. I tracked down the long term owner of my 1976 O'day 25 and got a ton of history and info with over an hour conversation on the phone with him.
Any chance you asked why he sold her after spending an amazing amount of time and effort?
Hey guys...you still there? Miss your great smiles and can do attitudes! Would Love an update on this beauty and what projects you have underway now... I've heard rumor that other tiny houses may be part of your new trajectory!