Thanks a ton for this. Just the comparison I was looking for. Needed validation to opt for the M1 Max vs the Ultra for someone planning to get started with Blender and 3D.
Very useful, I'm getting an M1 air soon because I can't upgrade my i5 and RX580 GPU with these prices and because I can't use my desktop PC when I go to uni. Nice to know the M1 will serve me just fine..
@@JensUhlmannOfficial the M1 does everything I want and used prices are already decently low, besides apple productes take longer to get to my country, why would I wait? With that logic I would wait for M3 and M4....
@@houssamalucad753 Fair enough. No that logic will probably not apply to the M3 and M4, because the M2 Air will probably have a redesigned body like the 14" and apparently also MiniLED, which is a huge upgrade. But yes the M1 will definetly be cheaper than, just something to keep in mind to not have huge buyers remorse in a few months
@@egor1g Which iMac pro did they use? They range from 8core to 18cores? Also shouldn't you render blocks at 20x20 ~ 36x36 on cpu (least with intel/amd cpus), I mean rendering 256x256 or 512x512 on CPU used to be dramatically slower? The multicore power of the m1 is close to the 8-core imac pro so I guess that's the version they are using, but I guess whatever. 8 cores anything tends to not be impressive for this task, and so neither is this review in determining value.
@@AchakBrooks i was debating between m1 iMac 24 or iMac Pro, found a 10 core model with 64gb and 2tb storage. It’s more powerful for my photo editing needs and comes with a bigger screen. If specked m1 iMac to match the iMac Pro the price would have been equal, minus the ports.
We don't know the specs on the iMac Pro and what GPU it's running. The one advantage with the iMac Pro is that you can run Bootcamp, hook up an eGPU and connect Nvidia's RTX 3090ti with 24Gb of VRAM and have access to CUDA and Optix rendering.
Wowe this showcases how incredibly useless and slow Intel was doing with their 5% "upgrades" from gen to gen. Thankfully we've got Apple doing their stuff and seems incredible, btw I'm a PC guy but I'm getting more and more convinced to switch to apple silicon for video editing and digital creative stuff
Bullshit!!!! Do you even know how old the Xeon chip is? It's a 14nm chip compared to the modern 7 and 5nm chips, plus with Intel there are still way more programs and features that m1 doesn't support/offer.
@@Joechungphotography lol.... They were busy making chips that works for everyone while also making SSD, modems for both personal and commercial use, Apple isn't going to sell their chips to anyone.
@@alanmay7929 Well it's no bullshit at all, Intel just caught up in performance with it's 12th gen (just raw performance), cuz from 6th to 11th those "performance increases" were negligible, that's why they were desperately trying to caught up with Ryzen.
@@Nugromant and yet Intel still uses a 10 4nm node to reach those performances despite using much power, now imagine that Intel chip but In a 5nm node.
@@pendarilahi4230 8 core cpu 7 core gpu 8gb Unified RAM 256GB SSD 1 fan (Apple actually doesn't mention this) Note: the base model costs 1300 usd in the us. It was high in India because of taxes and all.
Broo which mac is best for editing the 5k videos in after effects and premiere pro and davince With very smooth playback and fast rendering Could you suggest? I hope reply
any of the newer macbooks with an M1 chip are suffice. what i suggest tho is purchasing a dell xps 13, 14 or 15 instead. I’m using a 2020 macbook m1 and i’ve already had 2 hardware problems (screen got fried because of m1’s low compatibility with @ usb-c adapter; a start cycle that could only be fixed by a complete wipe & reset at the apple store). and i’ve only had it for about 8months. although it’s only 2 malfunctions i personally also don’t like the fact that there’s only 2 usb-c ports and a headphone jack that forces you to buy an adapter. I was also deciding between the XPS 14 and macbook originally but ended up getting a macbook because I wanted hardware that matched my phone. Overall don’t absolutely settle on a macbook unless you have reason to. My buddy who handles set design for the band black pink and other big projects uses the XPS and also recommends it over macbook.
The name in your video on the imac is misleading - "double Xeon". All Imac pro configurations only have a single Xeon processor in them, as do all the Mac Pro 2019, although there are plenty of Windows machines actually with DUAL Xeons with the same lga 3647 socket used by the W series processors that are in the Imac Pro and the Macpro 2019.
Are you doing CPU rendering, or GPU Blender rendering? This isn't a great comparison: you're comparing a CPU+GPU (M1/max) to a CPU (Xeon) to do rendering. If you added a current (e)GPU to the Xeon, you'd be comparing two similar types of things, and .the rendering time would be different. Of course, if I were only considering buying an Apple computer, I wouldn't be buying a Mac Pro + brand new eGPU right now...
Good to see this real World render test. It would be great to see like for like apple M1 chip sets vs PC at the same price point. For example a mac mini @ $699 vs a desktop pc @ $699 and like wise the Studio with max @ $2000 vs a desktop pc @ $2000, finally studio ultra @ $4000 vs a PC @ $4000
@@diverswitts youtube dont allow links here shared twice got deleted. please google blender demo files it would take you straight to the official demo files repo.
This won't happen, The Ultra line will probably be left as the best configuration for studio, and base configuration for when the Mac Pro comes out and maybe an even beefier M1 extreme or something for the best configuration. The Mac book Pro will probably get Pro M2 and Max M2 next upgrades.
This is how you show a comparison test. Brilliant. Shows what great value the iMac 24 is... Thank you for the great content.
Did he show the configs ?
Slap an M1Pro/MAX into the 24" iMac and it's golden.
Thanks a ton for this. Just the comparison I was looking for. Needed validation to opt for the M1 Max vs the Ultra for someone planning to get started with Blender and 3D.
Same here I just got the MacBook Pro M1 Max and probably get a monitor, but this makes me much happier with the purchase
Would nice to see the Mac Studio with the M1 Ultra. :-)
Considering that most of the mac studios body is for ventilation i don’t think it will be cool enough in a laptop body. But who knows
Doesn’t get simpler than that! 👍
that whole table right there is worth more than my life
it is interesting to see that the M1 is still faster than the Xeon
what's the point if rtx exists?
@@G_wer because depending on the rendering engine, CPU rendering is better for many use cases.
Are you using CPU or GPU rendering?
This is a great way to show a benchmark. Can we please have the Blender project just so I can cry when I render it in my machine?
Same song I play in the 'Situation Room' when I take a dump! ☝🏼😀
Very useful, I'm getting an M1 air soon because I can't upgrade my i5 and RX580 GPU with these prices and because I can't use my desktop PC when I go to uni.
Nice to know the M1 will serve me just fine..
If you can wait a bit longer maybe wait for the M2 Air?
@@JensUhlmannOfficial the M1 does everything I want and used prices are already decently low, besides apple productes take longer to get to my country, why would I wait?
With that logic I would wait for M3 and M4....
@@houssamalucad753 Fair enough. No that logic will probably not apply to the M3 and M4, because the M2 Air will probably have a redesigned body like the 14" and apparently also MiniLED, which is a huge upgrade. But yes the M1 will definetly be cheaper than, just something to keep in mind to not have huge buyers remorse in a few months
@@JensUhlmannOfficial yeah for me there is no remorse, I get what I need when I need it at the right price
@@houssamalucad753 fair enough, just don't get 8GB of unified memory😂
Great job! Best comparison format
The iMac pro for being almost 5 years old held up pretty well
Mmm, no
@@egor1g Which iMac pro did they use? They range from 8core to 18cores? Also shouldn't you render blocks at 20x20 ~ 36x36 on cpu (least with intel/amd cpus), I mean rendering 256x256 or 512x512 on CPU used to be dramatically slower?
The multicore power of the m1 is close to the 8-core imac pro so I guess that's the version they are using, but I guess whatever.
8 cores anything tends to not be impressive for this task, and so neither is this review in determining value.
@@AchakBrooks i was debating between m1 iMac 24 or iMac Pro, found a 10 core model with 64gb and 2tb storage. It’s more powerful for my photo editing needs and comes with a bigger screen. If specked m1 iMac to match the iMac Pro the price would have been equal, minus the ports.
Is this using native Metal GPU?
Seems this guy needs abit of love with uor subscribtion to his channel🙃
it would be very useful to know what is in the iMac Pro. how many CPU cores? what GPU? thanks!!
Nice nonpartisan. Glad I just bought an upgraded the M1 Max Studio! 👍👍
Ни х себе. Моё почтение
Ohhhhhh c'est incroyable 🤩🤩🤩 merci pour le test 😁
We don't know the specs on the iMac Pro and what GPU it's running. The one advantage with the iMac Pro is that you can run Bootcamp, hook up an eGPU and connect Nvidia's RTX 3090ti with 24Gb of VRAM and have access to CUDA and Optix rendering.
modelo mais basico já tem uma bom configuração
What are the specs on the iMac pro???
Is that the Base Model iMac Pro?
Ohhh so eine möst ich ha zum Video schnide! 👌😍🚀
Auso dä rächts chasch choufe 😁
What cpu on the iMac Pro, hoe many cores?
Nice. Do you have anything similar for Unreal Engine 5?
Wowe this showcases how incredibly useless and slow Intel was doing with their 5% "upgrades" from gen to gen.
Thankfully we've got Apple doing their stuff and seems incredible, btw I'm a PC guy but I'm getting more and more convinced to switch to apple silicon for video editing and digital creative stuff
Intel was milking us all, getting too comfortable and compliant! Stagnation is damnation
Bullshit!!!! Do you even know how old the Xeon chip is? It's a 14nm chip compared to the modern 7 and 5nm chips, plus with Intel there are still way more programs and features that m1 doesn't support/offer.
@@Joechungphotography lol.... They were busy making chips that works for everyone while also making SSD, modems for both personal and commercial use, Apple isn't going to sell their chips to anyone.
@@alanmay7929 Well it's no bullshit at all, Intel just caught up in performance with it's 12th gen (just raw performance), cuz from 6th to 11th those "performance increases" were negligible, that's why they were desperately trying to caught up with Ryzen.
@@Nugromant and yet Intel still uses a 10 4nm node to reach those performances despite using much power, now imagine that Intel chip but In a 5nm node.
What's the detailed specs of the iMac Pro? CPU and GPU model?
iMAC PRO (2017)
3,2GHz
32GB Ram
Radeon Pro Vega 56, 8GB
very helpful thanks!
is this CPU rendering? does the imac have a GPU?
I have a M1 iMac and yeah it is soo fast. I mean yeah it cost ₹120,000 ($1600) for the base model but it is totally worth it imo..
Hi, whats detailed specs of your m1 imac base model?
@@pendarilahi4230 8 core cpu
7 core gpu
8gb Unified RAM
256GB SSD
1 fan (Apple actually doesn't mention this)
Note: the base model costs 1300 usd in the us. It was high in India because of taxes and all.
@@Techie21 Thanks for your reply, much appreciated bro. So based on ur experience, this base model is good enough for blender?
@@pendarilahi4230 I actually don't use blender so I dont know.....
@@pendarilahi4230 I think you should watch this video: ruclips.net/video/HLF8Qdq7eYs/видео.html
Thank You 🌪❤️
i ordered the m1 max mac studio today because i needed the extra GPU power for 3d modeling and other 3d printing related stuff
What about the RAM? Is the RAM a relevant variable? All of them has the same RAM size?
Exactly, I think so the iMac Pro go so far the best, 2017 was realese, 5years ago .
Broo which mac is best for editing the 5k videos in after effects and premiere pro and davince
With very smooth playback and fast rendering
Could you suggest? I hope reply
any of the newer macbooks with an M1 chip are suffice. what i suggest tho is purchasing a dell xps 13, 14 or 15 instead. I’m using a 2020 macbook m1 and i’ve already had 2 hardware problems (screen got fried because of m1’s low compatibility with @ usb-c adapter; a start cycle that could only be fixed by a complete wipe & reset at the apple store). and i’ve only had it for about 8months. although it’s only 2 malfunctions i personally also don’t like the fact that there’s only 2 usb-c ports and a headphone jack that forces you to buy an adapter.
I was also deciding between the XPS 14 and macbook originally but ended up getting a macbook because I wanted hardware that matched my phone.
Overall don’t absolutely settle on a macbook unless you have reason to. My buddy who handles set design for the band black pink and other big projects uses the XPS and also recommends it over macbook.
The faster the better. M1 Ultra > M1 Max > M1 Pro > M1.
@@bengisemba4542 thank you so muchhhhhh broook🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
And 3090ti?
The texts in your thumbnail is very small. Probably because you edit on a large screen but people are watching on phones. So bolden it. Cool video.
Many thanks for the hint
The name in your video on the imac is misleading - "double Xeon". All Imac pro configurations only have a single Xeon processor in them, as do all the Mac Pro 2019, although there are plenty of Windows machines actually with DUAL Xeons with the same lga 3647 socket used by the W series processors that are in the Imac Pro and the Macpro 2019.
Legend says imac pro is still rendering
What do you mean by Double Xeon?
What's a double Xeon?
M1 still need some CUDA cores analogue for 3D rendering
Is the newer blender with metal support
Yes, Blender supports Metal GPU for both M1 and AMD GPUs. The AMD support was a nice little present for the release.
CPU or GPU? What rendering engine?
What about M1 pro?
impresionante
How about M1 PRO ?
how about compare Macbook Pro M1 Max with other PC on Blender render?
We will do this next 👍
ruclips.net/video/5mSEZZcxCOs/видео.html
People talk about the price of that xeon with 2019 dollars
damn, the m1 ultra going to be like 25 sec
Are you doing CPU rendering, or GPU Blender rendering? This isn't a great comparison: you're comparing a CPU+GPU (M1/max) to a CPU (Xeon) to do rendering. If you added a current (e)GPU to the Xeon, you'd be comparing two similar types of things, and .the rendering time would be different. Of course, if I were only considering buying an Apple computer, I wouldn't be buying a Mac Pro + brand new eGPU right now...
Great! Try with the macbook cord unplugged, some people say performance is better without power
There is not a single computer that perform better unplugged than plugged. The beauty of Macbooks is that they perform the same regardless.
@@tonytech5520 ruclips.net/video/7GXQ1QV6XVg/видео.html this guy did an interesting test.
The things with MacBooks is that you don't have to plug them in to get full performance. But that can't at all be said for Windows.
except some work loads, because of xeons having more cores.
That is because M1 has got quite good integrated GPU and Xeon hasn't got any. Xeon is way better in most tasks that uses CPU not GPU.
Was 3.1 set to use both CPU and GPU concurrently?
Yes
@@diverswitts is this test with the newest blender update?
@@mikelmarion yes sir
A simple RTX 3070 would destroy those times! Let alone the 3090!
ssssshhhh
M1 is a chip. The rtx 3070 is a graphic card. Put an rtx in to a chip and then you can compare them.
@@icyater there’s a gpu inside that card...
Wow this video shows just why I’m getting Windows desktop with RTX for rendering
Blenders should be rendered on GPU. And in this case, the M1 fails to deliver at all.
M1Max is just Nasty!
Cool! Good test.
imac pro surely left behind 😂
The M1 "Soccer mom" iMac beats the iMac Pro.....what will late 2022 bring in the Mac/iMac Pro line?...Holy Toledo !
Am curious what comes today
@@diverswitts that m1 ultra studioooooo
@@mikelmarion money money money 😁
@@diverswitts even the base model is fine with the m1 max and 32 gb ram
Good to see this real World render test. It would be great to see like for like apple M1 chip sets vs PC at the same price point. For example a mac mini @ $699 vs a desktop pc @ $699 and like wise the Studio with max @ $2000 vs a desktop pc @ $2000, finally studio ultra @ $4000 vs a PC @ $4000
There is a thing called demo files.
Sorry?
@@diverswitts i mean if you do a similar benchmark with those demo files we can see its comparative performance against others.
@@qubitx64 thank you i did not know. You habe e link? Also for Davinci?
@@diverswitts youtube dont allow links here shared twice got deleted. please google blender demo files it would take you straight to the official demo files repo.
Otoy octane with 25 gpus - 15 seconds
M1 ultra
M1 Ultra: Hold my beer...
ruclips.net/video/5mSEZZcxCOs/видео.html
Imac
Wait until they announce macbook pro M1 ultra 💀
This won't happen, The Ultra line will probably be left as the best configuration for studio, and base configuration for when the Mac Pro comes out and maybe an even beefier M1 extreme or something for the best configuration. The Mac book Pro will probably get Pro M2 and Max M2 next upgrades.
@@Aaron-ni2eu oh 🗿
Nice. Do you have anything similar for Unreal Engine 5?