I Bought the Cheapest Mercedes 500E in the USA: THE ORIGINAL Porsche Panamera?
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The M119 engine in that thing is dead reliable and none of your issues are a big deal. Change your wiring harness, caps & rotors (those need to be changed every 30k or so), and spark plugs/cables, and I guarantee that issue will be fixed. You may not even need the harness tbh, a lot of these cars had the bad harness changed out under warranty; just check to see if the insulation is crumbling. If not, no need to change it, because caps/rotors are likely the culprit.
The slow reverse issue could be simple or it could be bad. Change the fluid and filter first, obviously. That could give you a very big improvement. If so, leave it alone after that. But if the improvement was either marginal or nonexistent then you definitely need a new transmission or a rebuild. Eventually the reverse gear will go out entirely, and the longer the delay when you shift into R, the closer you are to that inevitability.
That coolant leak is almost definitely your radiator. A good European-made aftermarket radiator is only like $200. And if you need a water pump too you're looking at maybe another $150. Honestly may as well just do both. The water pump is right on the front of the engine and really easy to get to anyway if you have the radiator and everything out already.
The SRS light may just be dirt in the seat belt buckle receiver. Spray some contact cleaner in there first and see if that does anything.
I'm sure the wizard knows all this already, but I'm a moderator at Benzworld so I feel a strange obligation towards these cars (LOL).
Boy, don't we all? I mean any MB fan would do.
Benzworlds has helped me out of some rough spots, love that form and the other forms like it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, bit didn't the problems with the wiring harnesses start in '94?
What about the plastic guide on the timing chain rollers? I heard it would be catastrophic if they fail over time
@mike york Timing chain guides are kind of a debatable issue for these engines. Some people open them up at 200k and see the guides in basically perfect condition, others have horror stories at 100k. Generally speaking I wouldn't mess with them unless I had to open the engine up for some other reason. Hoovie's car here has relatively low miles, so there's no reason to dig into it unless Wizard finds something wrong that we don't know about.
And you're right about the transmission; less than two grand will get you a rebuilt unit. Totally worth it, and a way better use of money than trying to repair the original.
The new driveway has been christened with its first fluid stain.
He has people to take care of that.
Somehow I feel this wasn't the first...
Leaky 500Es make me way happier than Jeep Gladiators.
Screw the Jeep Gladiator.
3.6 liters of disappointment.
Nothing like a good ole Chrysler DISAPPOINTMENT
Give it a week, the jeep will start leaking.... Remember, it is a jeep. :)
The Gladiator ain't that bad. It just costs about $25000 more than it should is all.
IMPORTANT.
1. Don´t touch any wiring on and around the engine if they haven´t been replaced. The isolation is known for going hard and set of big meltdowns.
2. Drive it to full running temp. everytime until you are sure the PCV system is ok. (no short trips)
3. Don´t know about the reverse issue, but it´s common with vacuum leaks in an external valve on the gearbox. If it seems stuck in second at cold, no worry, it´s by design.
4. (related to nr 2.) If it misfires, it is probably bad (or oily/moist/corroded) distributer cap+rotor. Very easy to take off and clean, but do both sides.
5. Never touch the gas linkage/throttle-stuff to rev it under the hood. It messes with the ECU and trigger codes and limp-mode.
6. Check engine mounts. They are hydraulic and are usually broken so that the engine sits to low. And then you won´t be able to replace the oil filter.
7. Disconnect the central locking pump (if it works) and then check the whole car for vacuum leaks. If there are leaks, the pump will die, and it´s many $$
The M119 is one of the best engines ever, but rather complicated. But with some simple tricks you can save yourself a LOT of trouble/money. Feel free to forward these tips to the wizard if he didn´t already knew. I add more if it pops to mind. I also have some documentation on the M119, but even better, i know a lady here in the south of Sweden who is a guru on an insane level about these engines. So if anything feels impossible feel free to ask. And somewhere in the US you also have Kenneth Bergsma at Mercedessource. Very good mechanic.
Happy to see you in one of my favorite cars. Mine is a 400SE from the same year. Same engine with a bit less HP, and a bigger car. But even my big barge are rather quick, but of course not as quick as yours.
The throttle information is very interesting. I guess there must be something electronic connected to the pedal to read its position?
I wonder what other cars are like this? (I don't mean modern "drive by wire" cars)
@@vcolinc The M119 is a true drive-by-wire engine, but as some other early adopters it has ordinary linkage from pedal to engine bay and also linkage for the kick-down cable. I can´t describe the installation from memory but one i can explain is the 1995 Citroen XM 2.5 TurboDiesel. the pedal has a cable out to the engine bay and there it is connected to a electronic device connected to the ECU which control the diesel pump.
If "e-gas" 1991 wasn´t cool enough, the M119 also use CAN-bus technology and at least on the W140 S-class, the ECU compartment has it´s own cooling system. And it has VVT.
Last but not least. The V12-brother M120 in the 600 is the engine that Pagani use in the Zonda.
Great advice!
i don't mean to burst your bubble, but everyone told him to get the cooling pipes pinned in the 996 Turbo, and we all know how much he followed generally well known and freely available information...
2 months from now "I blew up my mercedes tracking it!"
Your list is why I choke every time someone tells me about German engineering...
Who else remembers when Hoovie wasn’t going to purchase any vehicles for this year. 😂
I know it that not going to last 😂
Jay Leno said it was okay.
Aaron Abbott We remember. Granted, what else do you think Jay Leno would say. Given he has a car for each day of the year.
@@AaronAbbotttheoncomingstorm that's right, it called special dispensation...
Jay leno gave him the green light 😎😂
sir I think your car might be a little nervous while on camera.
Lol
@@ibrahimkhan-od7ff OCD Obsessive car disorder
Key and Peele
It's nervous bladder and there's a pill for that.😂
🤣🤣🤣
As soon as you bought this, the Wizard was booking a vacation to Europe based on his future profits.
Billionaire: Nah I ain't got enough money to fix all this
Hoovie: I hear Hooptie?
I'm pretty sure the billionaire hes talking about is Warren Buffett, though this car is a little expensive for his tastes i can see him owning one... but hes incredibly frugal and I can definitely see him selling a car because of something minor
@@frowlinian8175 "Charles Koch of Wichita and Koch Industries Inc. ranked No. 6 globally worth $34 billion." Buffett is from Nebraska. www.kansascity.com/news/local/article315537/Forbes-list-includes-four-billionaires-from-the-KC-area.html
“60k can buy you a whole lotta car”
Buys a Jeep Gladiator
guimarães 😂
😂
They borrowed the design from GTA V
LOL
The W124 Series is one of the best of all Mercedes models... greetings from Germany
Ein W124 auch hoffentlich mein 1. Wagen. Was solideres gibt es nicht
I hope they never leave the roads of the world.
Having owned a 300TE for over 2 years now, i can say that is 100% true! :D
Mein 1. Auto ist auch ein 124er, 260E BJ 1988
Ich hab einen W201und einen W126. Also großen und kleinen Bruder...
Tolle Autos, keine Frage!
My 500E (last produced by Porsche in 1994) was previously owned by the Editor of F1 Magazine, who drove it for 6 years and 90,000mls. I have since taken that figure up to 285,000mls with few issues. Of the ones you mentioned:
1) Check the distributor caps for the misfire as these MUST be changed at 90,000-100,000 intervals without fail and that was found after by a Merc specialist using old time Bosch diagnistic machine after the official Merc diagnostic laptop couldn't identify the fault.
2) Check the low coolant sensor seal in the header bottle as they fail and need careful seating so as not to leak.
3) Poor shifting on the autobox can be related to a simple fluid leak causing low fluid level from either the transmission pan or the hoses to the rad. I replaced the hoses when mine leaked with race quality ss braided teflon hoses at a fraction of the cost of genuine Merc ones. The oil pan distorts over time and overtightening even to official specs will deform the gasket that will then leak. The solution is to loctite all the bolts in and ONLY screw the pan bolts up so that the little vertical tabs are on the verge of tilting upwards. That may only be ~5 lbft (!) but it is enough to seal the pan. A new pan would obviously be the solution but mine at the moment doesn't need it.
4) The rear axle has a ZF lsd that wears out very quickly and will be shot from about 50,000 gentle miles. The solution is to fit a Quaife ATB diff that will give significantly greater longevity for the same price as a quality ZF rebuild.
5) I have had a steering leak for the last 190,000mls than only requires a top up at each service.
6) My engine uses a pint (1/2quart) of 10W/60 fully synth oil every 7,500mls, which I consider excellent for the age and mileage.
7) The major issue with mine is that the lock barrel mechanism has failed, which is a common issue and the lock mechanisms are all on back order in Europe.
The moral of the above is not to widely speculate on dramatic failures and get a well informed and accurate assessment.
Watching Hoovie for first time: "Ha ha ha ha this guy knows comedy"
Watching Hoovie for the 10th time: "I think this might actually be his life"
Watching Hoovie for the 100th time: "Why am I still watching this idiot"
He still funny though
it´s the same, he seemed more down to earth with is coments but while seeing more videos ,is a complete idiot
I can't wait to see when the wizard tells you it'll take 20k to fix that in the next video
I'm looking forward to the track day
@@borepopnikolov2477 of course that happens, they are friends. But I wouldn't be saying that on the internet if it was my company. Always make it look like everybody pays the same price.
@UCL1vddHDVEwFxtqgLy2HX_A wizard does not like it when people try to tell him what his shop rate is lmao
More like $5000, but who knows, that suspension looks a bit bouncy as well :eep:
this is a pretty cheap car to fix mechanically, nearly all mechanical part are shared in common with other mercedes models of the same period so parts are surprisingly inexpensive. Compared to an E34 M5 of the same vintage, the 500E parts are like 1/4 the cost..
How are my headphone users doing in the first 30 seconds?
Still recovering from my laughing stroke
Was lmao. Best opening ever.
Pretty good
Hoovies garage is best garage because he doesn’t pin his own comments to the top.
Did you just love your own comment?
Get euro headlight glass please. Paint the grille black And monoblock wheels. We have the same problems with our w124s lol still driving though.
micro christ it’s a Mercedes it still needs some chrome
I thought euro cars had diff fenders and stuff to fit light
Don't black out the grille.... Fucking rice
@@justinprohm I don't know about fenders, but the bumpers are different. We don't have cars with enormous under-bites in Europe. Although as USA spec bumpers go, these aren't too bad at all.
I think the fenders (wings) might be the same, the USA regulation rectangle light seems to just be padded out to fit the space the Euro cars have their nice big lamps.
john Bean I should have specified the black grille screen behind the chrome. Makes a big difference freshened up.
Euro spec headlights are probably the first thing to change...
Great car, great show.
Next episode: Here's everything broken on the cheapest Mercedes 500E in the USA and Hoovie's Wallet
I dont think a tank could broke
I was thinking he'll just buy a mid 90s sl500 for parts
I had a 92 300E in 2003 German spec. It was a vault
That’s going to be like 2 hours long
Please do not put a "Porsche" license plate frame on it.
My boss has a dumbass Mercedes benz Kansas City plate on his v8 r8. Looks so dumb. Oh yea and he’s trying to sell it at our Chrysler dealership. Tyler u ever been to Olathe Dodge?
But my 05 Civic Hybrid has one...
Or steering wheel...
Please do
Why not? The car was made by mercedes and porsche together....
I had one of these in the UK in 2001. It had covered 286000kms but went like a train just tired suspension. You never tire of the noise and thrust on kickdown.
Hoovie is back!!! this is the best purchase so far! RESPECT this has got to be the coolest car ever after it is all put back together
This is a really cool car. Hoovie, this is a really nice hooptie
Since the transmission is bad you should try I dunno a
*Manual Swap*
Right! I wanna see the wizard's face when he's asked to do a manual swap on this dinosaur.
A 722.6 swap with custom tcu wouuld suit the car better and modernize it
@@jmorris023 Wizard did a manual swap on the w126. One of the first videos on this channel
Y E S
Mercedes of the era are extremely well suited to a manual outside of the dogleg found on the W201 2.4-16
My first car was a 1993 320E with 500E bits and pieces from the factory, completely sorted out (it was my dad's). It drove like a real driver's car and wasn't meant for everyone, only car people would love to drive this car today, the gas pedal was hard as a rock to step on, the steering wheel was just perfectly balanced between stiff and smooth. We bought the car in 1996 and kept since then, around 5 cars came and went in our parking spots but this one stayed and always attracted buyers. Here's my W124 story.
Now this one I'm excited about. Looking forward to more videos! The 500E is a legend.
You know those problems don’t scare me at all. I’ve been pootling around in W124s for years. Many parts are interchangeable with other period Mercedes and many of them aren’t particularly valuable so should be plenty of good quality used parts. Good luck with the project.
Me: I really like those wheels
Mr Hoovie: Hideous period correct wheels
Me: :'(
Those look like period Brabus wheels. I'm sorry, but I'm with Tyler, they're horrid. But they could be quite rare and valuable...
They're Zenders I think, I also love them.
I dont like them, but I think they fit the car.
@@battyboomfatty You could be right. If they are Zender then they're definitely worth decent money, if they're in a fit state to re-use or recondition...
@@gosportjamie yeah I think they would fetch decent money and sell really well. I just think they really suit it. Some Euro Headlights would look awesome as well.
I LOVE it when you feature cars like this one! Even though good examples are now outrageously expensive, at the bottom of their depreciation curve I *almost* bought one. I can't wait to see how much it costs you to bring this one back from death's doorstep! I learn SO much more from these videos than I do from the ones where you buy expensive cars. Please, keep up the great work!
Thank you Hoovies! I love this car! I find myself often looking at the 300e and 300Ce!
It’s a 500e! Why didn’t you show off the engine bay?
Right, that V8 must be quite a sight
Nicola probably even looks like a 90s V8
M119. The last hand built Benz engine with homologation pedigree. Beauty
Those wheels have got to go. Put the originals back on or... AMG Monoblock wheels are always the answer.
The 500E did not come with monoblocks on it( he scooped up a set of OEM wheels to put back on)
AMG mono block wheels are ALWAYS the answer. Best looking wheel ever made.
@@correya.lettsome4702 They came with Mercedes' Ceginus wheels.
@@akmalps9999 Oh yes... The Cegnius is a beautiful wheel.
Hoovie, I know AMG Monoblock IIs rule the roost, but trust me, source out some 18 inch Carlsson 1/6 (the originals, not the 1/6 Evos. But heck, those, too). I roll 17's on my '94 E320. Stunning, period correct, and made for Mercedes
Got to say Tyler, you've done a great job with the steps and landscaping leading to your front door. Looks like its absolutely transformed the house!
Also, for anyone in the UK, do you know if we can get the FYI channel on Virgin/Sky?
I am also enjoying watching Hoovies home remodeling and landscaping updates............still watching
You should change the headlights to the European spec ones, it'll look so much better!
David Hill how so my headlights look and work just fine
orion deschamps I guess it's subjective
I'm from europe and I like the usdm headlights better!
If you decide to change the headlights remember the 500E uses special ones since it has auxiliary high beams where the fog lights go on the normal w124's.
That car just pissed on your driveway lol great video Hoov keep them coming !!!
Another GREAT video Tyler! LOVE your channel! More Buick videos PLEASE!
Beautiful car. Cap, leads, plugs, G/box fluid & filter change....good as new. Apart from the gorgeous Imperial, it’s the best thing you’ve bought in ages! Love it!
Hoovie: So clearly I have a lot of problems, A LOT OF PROBLEMS
Me: Are you talking about the car or yourself there Hoovie
let's not forget he's newly nuptialed
Hoovie gets fucked more by his cars than his wife
@@miked3168 😂🤣💀
I'm so glad you finally got this one, best Mercedes ever please let the wizard fix it to perfection it deserve
Yes PLEASE! Return it to absolute stock, from the wheels to the power antenna to the Becker stereo. It is my favorite car.
Thats a beauty .... Congratz on new purchase...
Hoovie, far and away, I love your take on cars, your sense of humor, editing style--the works. Can't stop laughing, and I learn a ton. Thanks for what you do.
I don’t mind ads. I don’t mind buffering, but when ads buffer... I suffer
Buffered suffering leads to buffered headache
Never pictured one of the Koch brothers rolling in a 500e
I assumed Phil Ruffin.
he said it was a female owner so im guessing it's the wife
He also said the only owner since the billionaire was an employee... So, I'm guessing someone he wouldn't want the wife to know about.
Or the wife of George Soros...
@@michaelburley9479 soros isn't from Kansas, Mr galaxy brain
Found your show on FYI. Can't wait t00 see it!!!
Such a better buy that the Jeep Crapiator. This is the stuff Tyler's been doing in his earlier days, buying hoopties and fixing them!
Also much better video than Carmaxing cars for 11 long minutes
My dad used to have one of these W124s. It had over 500.000km. Awesome car.
The hood ordiments got stolen all the time, so that’s probably why it’s missing
I missed out on buying your C43 but this one I'm taking when the time is right
Love your show on the FYI channel! I hope they pick it up for a second season! Lovin me some more Hoopdies!
Hey Tyler, I own a 1993 320E and my car is fully sorted out but it always needs water no matter how perfectly sorted out it is, I would consider you keep 2-3 1.5L bottles in your trunk because you never know when this yellow water light will turn on on your dashboard, also avoid uneven cobbled roads as they will shake the car and empty it from all the water it has.
I think this one would actually be worth putting some money into and fixing up.
Especially since you can get such good returns on well maintained one's.
That's the idea!
It's almost like Hoovie is an experienced car reseller.
wooooow! Finally a youtuber just got incredible awesome by buying this masterpiece! Congrats!
I was thinking the same thing! Finally a W124 - I hope he does not sell it.
What a lucky find. Its clearly just a “Diamond in the Rough”. Congratulations. I love/loved them. They were part of those unique creations that came to fruition because of shows like ... Miami Vice. Thanks for the video.
Buys a Mercedes: “I bOuGhT a PoRsChE!”
Thats like the people who bought a crossfire saying they bought a benz lol
After you focusing on the drip I completely ignore everything you kept saying just watching the radiator drip🤦♂️
Oil change plugs and wires fixed the coolant leak rear wheel bearing is call it a day
Congratulations on the kick ass results on your TV show your what TV needed
My father had one back in the day, his colleague in his office too and an NBA player in town also at the time. His colleague still has his at his home. To this day one of my absolute favorite cars ever, raced and took out a few Vettes. My uncle had a cool but not as cool 400E back then too.
You should get a 1966 Mercedes 280se and restore that. Just a suggestion.
^THIS
The W124 is an awesome car. Congrats.
Back to the basics! Love it
SOOO glad you've got a w124! Doug demuro used to own one of these. I have a w124 wagon sportline edition
The rarest of the w124 mbz's.... couldn't click this one fast enough
There are some even more rare models. The E60 AMG for example.
'94 on E bay for $73K obo
@@aethernetx woww very expencive.....
W124 is probably on of the best looking Benz ever made!
Beautiful car. I used to own a w124 and loved it. This video really brings me back.
I suggest looking into the wiring harness (tended to erode because gov’t regulations required them to be biodegradable) and your relays (causes misfiring on mine).
Finally back to the good cars. Mono block wheels is a must!
I had an 89 300 E that if you stuffed it pulling off it would spin second gear
The E500E is programmed to start in 2nd gear for this reason
SRS: Supplementary Restraint System. Not What you said Tyler. 😝
I had a college summer job in Chicago in 92-3 my boss had one of these...it was ...at the time ...incredible.
This is a passion project Hoovie please fix it and keep it. You cannot beat that cars story.
Best Mercedes ever. I daily drive my all original W124 and get looks all the time 🤗
It's a great car, I had a E500 and I sold it @100k miles for 9000usd 3 years ago. Still regret it.
Yeah.. people always sell the car because of how great they are😁😁😁
The new owner probably regrets it too.
Hey Tyler! I subscribed to FYI just to watch your show but on Saturdays at 10 PM EST what I see on the guide is Parking Wars!!
Some Euro Lights and the Euro 6 Spokes from that period will set it off perfectly! Can't wait.
My absolute dreamcar
Hans Bratwurst hell yes
Nah a nice 600 6.3
Surprised you don't have a 1988 Mercedes 190E with the Cosworth engine- That thing was awesome!
Did that even come to the us? I think their 190e had some lethargic 8V 4banger.
@@y4nnickschmitt No, there was a 24 valve version- A friend was in the Mid-80's Gray Market and brought one over to CA and that thing ran to 140mph -no problem!
My father had a 500E and one of his colleagues in his office had a special 190E can’t remember which one exactly, maybe the 2.3-16.
@@venom5809 There's one on CL L.A. for $20K today...
Hope you get it sorted. One of my faves from the 90s.
Tuning in for episode 8 of the reality show rn I’m psyched!
Charles Koch's of the Koch Brothers old car.
Yeh, probably Phil Ruffin. Charles Koch's probably hs drivers.
Careful Hoovie, sounds like that car was once full of Koch.
The worse kind. 😂
Oh Brothers
David Koch's old car...
Avery Oppegard I know one of Koch's grandsons, he's almost as humble as you'd expect him to be
@@andyn46 I've met Koch, and even the Pistotnik family thinks they're stuck up.
Hoovie... That w124 only has a vacuum leak. That is responsible for many of the problems you described (trans lag mainly). regarding the seat position switch, it's only a matter of opening the switch and cleaning. I've worked on similar w124 for many years. Keep up the channel!
Nice find, love the steering wheel cover.
you need new headlights....the US version looks really hideous compared the European version!
You really liked my w201, didn't you? xD
On a work trip to Abu Dhabi couple of years ago I saw one stored clean as new with only 36000 km on the clock .. it melted my soul
My dad had a e200 version of that
Its surprisingly very comfortable and advanced for a 90's car
Much better than the modern crap from Mercedes-Benz today.
OMG... All the old things are better because.... no reason.
Omg are you Scotty Kilmer?
@@marcusfullerton9420 I dont think literally is what you meant... how long have you been using literally incorrectly?
@@paulcarmi8130 My dad's E-class 2013 is still reliable af just like my 1996 one
The w203 C55 underwent an even more extensive build process. Mercedes would send a stock C class to AMG and AMG would cut off the front end and bolt on the CLK front end. Pretty nuts
When you live in Europe and can’t watch car issues with Tyler Hoover 😭
That's payback for getting all the cool cars 😡
Watch on hulu. You might need a vpn
What a car. I am a older Mercedes benz fan and i love these models. While my favorite is the w126 i love this one too
amazing car! By the way, was surprised that you did not mention differences between E500 and 500E
I think the car must be nervous, it peed all over your driveway.
First time on camera.
I'm so early I haven't got the notification yet
Joshua Duarte lmao same
nobody gets a notification because yt is shit. ^^
For the first time I'm envious of a car you bought. Get the wire harness inspected; upper and lower.
This is what i was waiting for!!!
Hoovie me and my buddy started a new channel and we are rebuilding a 300e and a 300ce....so we know alot of the issues you speak of..
Switching Lanes what’s the channel? Sounds pretty cool and something I would watch. Not many people show these older Mercedes as much love as they should have.
@@jkjoshua567HD Switching Lanes?
rkan2 lmao I’m dumb, thanks for the help. But to be fair he did say “starting a new channel” which made me think it was a different account.
mercedessource.com has a good method, glue, parts for the hood pad repair for any W124.
Definitely worth selling the C36. If you ask me this Merc had way more character. I've always loved the look of the W201 and the W124.
Love the show on FYI. My friends mom had an E class like this one. Same thing happened on a trip to Dallas. Coolant leak!
Take advice before towing an automatic Merc any distance. You could ruin the transmission.
Most automatics, if not all. Don't like being towed.
He owns a car trailer and just as well too..
"You're probably thinking why so cheap" - emm, no, quite the opposite... :D
Wow!!!! that is one of my dream cars! The N° 1 is the 560 SEC W126!
As an owner of a W124 300 E-24v i can tell you that these cars with some basic maintenance are super reliable, they are tough as a Tank!
Cheers from Argentina!
Just watched S1:E8 of Car Issues. All your Jurassic Park references were epic Tyler. The laying down like Goldblum and saying “life finds a way” was PURE GOLD. 👏👏😂