Canon R5 followup: 5 Flaws & 5 Faves
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I've spent 8 months with the Canon R5 and have discovered it has a few annoying quirks but I've also come to appreciate its strong points. I sum it up for you with 5 flaws and 5 faves because that seems balanced and fair while also being digestible and snappy.
TL; DW
The R5s 5 Flaws are:
- Some SD cards freeze camera
- Sticky AF
- Battery Life
- Video Limits
- Boring Design
My R5 Faves Include:
- Frame Rate
- Versatility
- Lenses
- Usability
- EVF
Chelsey, I like your solo videos where you're not having to riff off Tony. You have a nice, easygoing vibe.
750 shots off half a battery ain't too bad for a mirrorless!
I totally agree but... at 20 frames per second, that could be little more than half a minute shooting time!
@@WIDGI lol tru
I got 780 shots and still had ~70% battery left on my R5. But that was starting from a full battery.
Not bad for canon ML =D
perhaps continuous AF was on ? That was the 1st thing I turned off in my R6.. keeps the lenses moving in their focus motors and significantly causes battery drain.
I always appreciate your honesty. I like hearing complaints and positives from someone who like (loves) their camera. No camera is perfect.
Chelsea, I was having the same problem with partially charged batteries dyeing quickly. I turned "ON" Airplane mode. That really helped me out on the battery all around. Thanks for the video.
Wow. The R5 has an Airplane Mode? Good to know… This comment needs a LOT of attention.
@@longliveclassicmusic is that a feature? Pretty sure even in sony apsc it came as a default option in the menu...
Apparently without "Airplane" mode turned on the R5 will keep using WiFi even when turned off!!
Tune in again next month when Chelsea switches brands again ;-)
That SD card issue should be a reason this camera is replaced with an A1. Wth kind of camera has issues with it’s sd card slot. That’s like the main function.
500$ sell our R5 camera
Don't you dare turn my black box into a fashion accessory!
No it needs to change. Come on look at Apple.
Says the body looks to be designed in the 80's and then shows the Leica body that looks to be designed in the 50's.
@@Whiskey185 In the 80s Canon asked Colani to redesign the camera. Well, he did. But it never got hold. (google for: Canon Colani)
yeah, it's not a handbag.
I have no problem with my R5 boring black brick camera ... Looks like every other boring black camera - a plus once we can travel again and I am walking through some dodgy neighborhoods.
I agree - and who needs a fashion accessory that dates. If a manufacturer does go down that marketing track they might be tempted to offer limited edition 'collectibles'... lets not stumble into that rabbit hole.
I shoot wildlife with supertele primes and people ask me why I’m using a rebel with a 600 prime :)
The Nikon Z series are, imo, nicer looking cameras that still stay quite nondescript and functional.
I feel like ANY camera in a dodgy neighbourhood is a problem, I'd shoot raw files on my phone in that case.
Great video Chelsea. Fun to watch as well as informative.
Chelsea with regards to the battery did you turn off the Bluetooth, gps and wifi ? I was experiencing poor battery life on my Z7 and turned off the wireless functions and it made a massive difference!!
In the old days black and silver camera bodies were common. All black bodies were the top of the line pro bodies. It was a status symbol. It was desirable. I think the manufactures are still of the same mindset.
It's not just manufacturers who think that way, sadly. I gave up using Fuji for pro work because I had a handful of (entirely separate) clients make comments to the effect of not trusting my work if I was using a camera that didn't look 'professional' i.e. a big all-black brick. In one case a client on location literally said "oh... is _that_ your camera? Really?" to my face when I pulled out a silver X-T3 and X100F, continued to sneer for the entire time, and then I later learnt they had hired another photographer (who happens to be my friend, which the client didn't know) to reshoot the same job _before they'd even seen my photos_ and apparently spent several minutes of the reshoot complaining about me and my 'hipster' 'amateur' gear. Yes, that particular client was an asshole and yes the others weren't much better, but still the end result was that the nice-looking, stylish, silver cameras cost me work.
Never had that trouble when I shot with Canon or Sony before then. Didn't have that problem when I used the all-black chunky Fuji X-H1. Never had that problem since switching back to Canon.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 Wow! What do you shoot now?
@@sebastianmatthews1663 so your friend back stabbed you?
Black & Silver //= Two Tone Olympus as Limited Editions More Rare Costing More Example the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II Advertised as Silver,, IS Actually the Silver & Black and Only 2000 Were Released Worldwide, & Best Looking Camera, Any Of Olympus Models of the So Call Silver always look the nicest Classy looking, :-)
There is an option to write to both cards in video that no one on RUclips seems to find. However, it is limited. It forces 8k RAW on the CFe slot and 4K 30 on the SD slot. But yes, it would be better if you were able to select more options.
Every time I see "Eye AF", I read it in my head as "Eye As F*ck". That made the "Sticky AF" title card pretty funny
Same!
But AF is originally autofocus
@@DarkPa1adin I'm pretty sure he knows that.
Same
I wonder if the SD card issue has to do with them being initially formatted for another brand camera? I’ve been using my older SD cards that I used on older Canon cameras- careful to format within the R5 before use - with no issues so far.
You surely wouldn't like the camera to have silver, grey or any light reflective color when shooting widlife. May look good but animals will notice and hide away🤔🐦🦉
Curious if the lock-up occurs again once the card has been formatted and re-inserted. presently using only sd cards.
Hi Chelsea, Loving your videos. I am a professional bird photographer and my previous gear was Canon 5d MKIV with a Canon 600mm f4 II lens and getting awesome shots. I have bought the R5 and using the same lens. As per your Flaw no.2, I am finding that when the eye detection locks on it is awesome but many times it has let me down by not even finding the bird, even large birds. I too have set two back functions to have one normal focus and one eye detection and tracking but I still find that it doesn't find even large birds at a distance that the 5D IV would have latched straight onto. Any clues on getting around this problem anybody?
I want whatever camera and lens used to film this video! What’s the combo? Pretty please....
Thanks for this one, super appreciative you share the work arounds!
i had that same SD card problem with a used T3i i had gotten. Is this a common canon problem? I got tired of dealing with it and sold it back to KEH (where i purchased it). Never had this problem with my Nikons so I'll just keep using those...
What camera strap are you using? It's really nice from what little I could see.
Love that format. I felt like we sat together and have a chat. Also you looked very beautiful. Nice hair and make up.
thank you, i felt pretty today
Chelsea, you are amazing to listen to. Very detailed but easy to follow - Thank you!
Are you kidding I love the R5's design; big black piece of tech, no frills, just ergonomics and raw technology. It's just absolute power. You can feel yourself go super Saiyan the moment you pick one up..
Did the firmware update for Canon R5 fix any problems that you seen with this canon? thanks
Hey Chelsea, what brand of camera strap do you have attached to your Canon R5? It appears to be a quick release leather strap, something I've been looking for...
The 50mm 1.2 is huge compared to the 1.4! We have had the R5 for a few weeks now and I love it! We just got the adapter ordered so we can use the 50mm I'm hoping the image quality is still good!
I love your honesty about yourself,you make me laugh at times.Thanks for your humor.
I rented the R5 two weeks ago. I'm an R user currently. The R5 was pretty slick, I'm going to order it in a week or two.
Any overheating issues for video since the firmware update? 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for the video, always nice to hear your perspective. I also made the change from Sony to Canon
When the autofocus gets sticky I like that I can keep my eye on the EVF and then use my thumb to fine-tune the focus spot
I have been shooting with the R5 since November and haven't had hte freezing issue. I'm using prograde SD cards, so maybe im lucky or those ones dont cause the problem.
Have you had the same issue with other brand SD cards? We have an r5 for our wedding shoots and haven’t had a problem but we also haven’t had as long. I don’t use Sony or toshiba cards so I was curious if manufacturers had a part in it
I've been using a Sandisk card with my R5 which I had for couple months now and so far no problems.
Thank you Chelsea! You confirm what I had experienced with R5. Some issues with focus, like on a flower yesterday. We doesn’t always agree, me and R5. Didn’t yet have had the other problems. And you are so right about no 5. Moore bling, bling. 😁💥👑🎨💎
I just got an R5 this week (upgrade from an R) the lens are a fave of mine too. They're also a flaw for me as I could only afford one.
what is the one you choose?
The RF 24-70mm f/2.8L
@@superdimensionfoto well then you wont be needing anything else for awhile :)
@@superdimensionfoto i love the rf prime lenses they are gold.
To get over a sticky eye AF I find having the AF on button set to eye AF, the AE Lock button set as my normal focusing method (selected using the lens or lens adapter ring) and AF Point Selection button set as spot gives me great flexibility. If I find the eye AF sticking a quick jab on the spot AF (AF Point Selection) on the eye then resume eye AF. Works every time. The eye AF then locks the on to the subject.This set up allows me to shoot one handed as all the controls I need are buttons on the right grip top and right rear of the camera. After trying many differing configurations over the last 6 months it's the one I've settled on. Take 2 SD cards with you Chelsea. They're not expensive.
Hi there. I just got R5 a couple of days ago. I wonder how can I import clog video or high quality video to my iPad.
Hi Chelsea. What type of camera strap are you using on your camera. It looks 😎. Thanks!
In muy use i found that the camera and lens stabilizer engage every time you press a button, ANY BUTTON, not only the shutter or focus buttons (that’s when it should engage, only). Also the lack of wb, iso, metering mode/white balance buttons, the lack of gps, etc are things I missed a lot. After using the R5 I decided to buy a 5d iv. I miss the higher resolution but for the rest I’m quite happy with it.
I've had that problem with the SD Cards (Song Tough and Sandisk Extreme Pro Cards) on both the R5 and R6, doesn't happen all the time, but I agree, it fixes once I reformat the card. Some issue there. I also have a C70 Cinema camera that takes SD cards and when I stick it into that camera, I never get an issue with the same cards. So it's definitely a glitch on the R5/R6 software, not actual hardware.
Same. And I’m using Sony tough cards as well.
Weird. By the time I can afford an R5, maybe the issue will have been fixed XD
R6. Identical problem! Using Lexar Professional 128GB V60 ii U3 1667x 250MB/s. I’ve formatted and re-formatted in-camera; makes no difference. Like to think Canon are going to provide a fix, very soon.
Same problem. I am using Lexar Pro 128gb 300MB/s V90 II 2000x that have never been used in any other camera but the R5.
Been talking to Canon for a week and they insist they don’t know why freeze-ups occur. For what it's worth I use Sony Tough cards and have 2,000 actuations on my R5 in the last eight months.
My problem with the AF is after shooting for a while and i put the camera down for a moment and try to use it again the AF refuses to function until i reboot the camera
I have had that AF problem, sometimes it gets too sticky
Hey Chelsea, enjoyed. What did you shoot this on? The quality is stellar!
I remember having that freezing issue with certain SD cards in my Panasonic G9 years ago, it was super frustrating, but I finally found cards it liked.
I’ve had an issue with the R5 where it randomly forgets some of my menu preferences. For example, I’ll set it up to NOT trigger the shutter when I tap the back screen, but it keeps switching back! It’s also set my focus confirmation back to beeping when I would never want that. At first I assumed user error or maybe something that would work it’s way out in firmware but it keeps happening! Has anyone else had this problem?
Do you have a L-bracket that is nice to hold but still allows full use of the flip screen?
Would appreciate if I can get your opinion or your audience opinion. I am planing on buying canon r5 after watching few of your videos, wold you recommend lens for me, I soot sports nature and portrait. I can’t buy more than one lend now so more universal lens will be what I’m looking for. Also recommendation for where to buy.
70-200 f2.8 L
I had the issue a few times with the R5 freezing on me when i used the SD card. In my case taking the battery out to restart the camera was sufficient without having to reformat. Another issue that i have found is the camera slowing down and not tracking AF as well if the battery are at less than 50% power going from around 12 frames per second to about 5 or 6 frames per second.
This should be pinned . Thank you for pointing it out.
Hey, thanks for the info on the memory cards. That was a bit of a shocker. I normally (but probably not always) format my cards when I put them in the camera, and so I have not had that problem, but thanks for the tip.
Chelsea - I've had SD issues with my Z7 and D850 as well. The 300+ mbps SD cards seem to tank and error for me with fair frequency, but all I have to do is pop it out and back in and it works again.
As for camera appearance, I couldn't agree more. Alphagvrd skins are a good fix, look pretty damn cool, and even protect the camera a bit.
Great video Chelsea! You also look outstanding
Love it! Flaws will be always in cameras and organization!
Wow I haven't watched this channel is ages! Several years. I feel so out of touch with photography!! She still looks amazing though, and I still get the calming vibe. Haha. I used to be able to put earphones in and fall asleep to these videos.
Hi Chelsea,
I have two main problems
1. weather sealing is not perfect around the viewfinder - I got foggy/humidity in my viewfinder after the light rain or rain with snow. People from Canon told me I'm not first with this problem - there should be the problem with the sealing around the eyecup
2. Eyecup is fixed - I can't use my old raincovers
dont you guys find the files pushed towards reds/magenta? whats your view on it?
Question so you just need to always have a spare card formatted so when it locks up your good and get smaller cards since you have to format them? Save some money on the bigger cards. I'm getting ready to upgrade and this made my jaw drop.
I have an R5 and R6, haven't had an sd failure. Just format cards before using them. And don't switch memory cards from body to body. If you do, format it :)
We've had several firmware updates since you recorded this video. Still having the problem with the SD card freezing up the camera?
In regard to the 'boring black' color, I think a gun-metal grey or dual-tone grey & black would be a nice alternative that preserves the pro look while allowing a bit of individuality
Whenever Chelsea does a video I feel like she's about to break up with me even though we aren't married, dating or have ever met. LOL 😂
I know that feelin..
😂😂😂😂😂
She does kinda have that "I'm about to break your heart but I'll do it in a soothing way" type of voice. 😂
@@judahtownsend2195 It's the ONE Training that their good at.
@@judahtownsend2195 How's it go? "It's not you... it's me"
i want sony size and quality performign lenses on canon r bodies with sony battery life. is it too much to ask for? its really duable, cause the companies did it seperately,why they cant to it in on? :D
With regard to pretty it up: They definitely can. My SLR1 Canon is white and looks quite nice with my Light Grey Canon L series 100-400mm (Mark II) I’ve gotten complements on it. Wondering out loud: Can one be considered serious with a pretty camera or just a well off ingenue?
Your video is.....well......flawless. May I respectfully ask what camera and lens you used to record this video? Thanks in advance.
Interesting on the SD card. I've had the camera lock up a few times, but just powering down and back on resolved it. I didn't associate it with the SD card.
Possibly another flaw:
The BlueTooth GPS connection to my Android phone is very unstable. I have to reconnect all the time and end up with many photo's wthout any GPS data.
Firmware update?
regards, Fred
I had a similar issue on first firmware with my CFExpress card - haven’t had it since updated from 1.0 - I have my SET button custom to pull focus to the centre of the frame - my usual fix if the AF sticks to something I don’t want in focus (don’t need to change focus mode) ... the 30 min limit annoys me in theory, but realistically I will never hit that 30 min limit ... one thing that doesn’t annoy me is if you fill up your SD card the camera blocks you from switching the card you are seeing.., so you have to take out the non-full card... and then you will see the card that is full.. and then you can delete, and the. Put back in the other card
Memory card issue seemed familiar, similar things happened to me on 1DX ii , just wasn’t often. R5 gets real clunky when the battery is below 20%, slow down big time, so this is the first time bought the grip
yes I’ve only had my R5 for a couple of weeks, I prefer to use the VF rather than the LCD screen because of sun glare. So any problems have to be resolved by button pressing. For example the green square ends up in the corner, I press the focus mode button and then press the joystick to centre it.
When the camera goes to sleep, I can’t see anything compared to the optical DSLR. (EOS 5D mk III).
I’m considering the two button focussing method but need to learn more before changing the default settings.
There are some kind of stickers, called "protection skins" for the bodies some may consider appealing. (alphagvrd for example)
Never has a single issue after 50,000+ shots on my R5 either on memory card nor Auto Focus - super amazing camera
What brand memory card do you use?
@@smaakjeks Sandisk CFe Pro 256Gb and SONY SD Tough Pro 128Gb
Has anyone noticed a burning smell when you use the older batteries (ie LP-E6)? This has occurred with my EOS R6...
I've heard that AF performance drops if battery is less than 60%
Is that true ??
Not true. But, the burst performance does suffer. Not sure if recent firmware has corrected that or not, but I've never had an issue getting what I need with cameras that had far slower fps.
I agree whole heartedly about not being able to record video to both cards at once. I can understand why it may not be possible for 8k or HQ 4k video, but they should at least make it possible for straight 4k or even 1080.
Great video. Funy, quirky and informative.
I have R5 and R6 since October 2020 and I slaughtered them to test them. Ceremonies, glamorous shots and sports. I must say that in terms of cards I have never had problems, both Cfexpress and SD with brands like Lexar and Manfrotto. Any canon in the last 20 years has never given me problems reading the cards and formatting them in the room, without going to remove and put back in another room. Do we know how to use the menus? AF is great and with the life of the new LP-E6NH battery I got up to 3450 shots per burst on two occasions. I believe your battery still needs to have full charge cycles to work well, otherwise you have to change it.
A similar memory card issue happens to me, and what I noticed is that this happens if I delete images out of camera on my laptop and then put the card back in without formatting it. If I avoid this, the problem doesn’t reoccur
I'm retiring soon and I'd love to upgrade from a Canon 80D. I am just a hobbyist and shoot mostly birds and nature. I often have to crop my pictures because I don't get very close. My question is do I go for the canon r5 for the megapixels? I never shoot video so would a r6 be more practical? I want this to be my nice investment so I can enjoy my retirement. Photography is a sort of therapy for me and I love getting out into nature to appreciate the beauty of it. What would you choose if you were in my position?
I just purchased an R5. Re: SD card problems. I was able to format from within the R5, and I did a low level format. I noticed somewhere in the cajillions of instructions that you should only format from within the camera, nowhere else. Maybe this helps, Chelsea.
i never take my sd card out of my camera, i just wifi the images then delete and carry on, never formatted a card either, never had a single problem with sandisk
great video Chelsea
Chelsea - great Idea about the 2 buttons for Autofocus. The memory card problem never ocured on our R5's on all kind of cards of any brand. So maybe have the Camera checked by a tech?
So HELPFUL! I think I'll get a camera strap with pockets for EXTRA BATTERIES. I can't ever remember which pocket I put what in my bag.
Tamrac makes a strap with card pockets.
Chelsea - thanks for bringing up the boring design issue - couldn't agree more with lots of cameras these days.
Some of those problems are what I would call deal breakers . They need to fix them ASAP. Those are some major problems you mentioned. I’m glad you talked about them. Wow!!!😳
For a c.$3,500 camera these 'lock up' issues are beyond "deal breakers".
I'm about to shell out over 10k on new gear, the R5 was in my sights, but why have a camera that *may* lock-up in (straightforward) use???
I run into this same problem with the SD cards with my R6 as well.
Excellent info, thank you!
I get the pretty complaint, but do you think that Canon cameras function well ergonomically? I find them to be more comfortable in hand than other brands I've used.
So if I get an R5 always format before I use it again like I already do 😉
@Chelsea, I feel the battery life issues are from poor software/OS implementations. I’m coming from a 5dm4 and use super-tele primes for wildlife and BIF, so my observations are relative to my 5dm4. I’ve seen some of these mentioned on online forums, but not a whole lot.
I feel the IS(and IBIS) software implementation is poor. The camera is continuously running both body and lens stabilization, when I’m not ready or waiting to take pictures...and even when I put the camera down. This is probably using up a lot of battery. They should have implemented something similar to DSLRs. On the 5dm4, IS only comes on when I’m metering, and IS stops a couple of seconds after metering stops.
Also, when I’m walking around with the gear, most of the time, the power-saving timers don’t seem to work. Maybe the evf sensors is getting triggered....I haven’t been able to nail down the cause yet. Soooo......I’m walking around, for a couple of hours in woodlands looking for birds, with the screens and IS+IBIS running the whole time (plus the IS rattle....uggghh). It doesn’t make sense. I had to dedicate the light bulb button to “display off” to put the camera to sleep, and remember to press it when I’m done shooting.
Also also, they should’ve implemented an option in “screen/viewfinder display” to mimic a DSLR. Meaning an option, “evf for shooting only and screen for image review only”. And if you turn off image review time, the screen would be always be off, until I press the playback button. This is how I have the 5dm4 setup, which saves a ton of battery because the back screen is off, almost all of the time (I don’t use Q menus).
The software/OS/UI implementation is, in some cases, so different from my DSLR, which I’m guessing is geared towards “videographicists”.
On memory cards, look into the boot/wake time variation from card to card. Some cards take longer to boot/wake. Since you are using both card slots, maybe disparities in the boot/wake times are causing the crashes. Maybe try a bunch of cards individually, write down the boot/wake times, then use the two cards with the largest time difference, and see if you can recreate the problems. I have a suspicion it has something to do with the times.
Overall, the r5 is an epic camera, mostly due to the AF and 20fps. Would’ve needed a lot of luck on my 5dm4 to match shots from the r5. Having said that, I prefer my 5dm4 for the ergonomics, feel, OS, and general usability over the r5. 5dm4 body with an r5 sensor......one can only dream.
I've managed 1,800 shots on 75% battery on my R5, I think that's pretty decent personally, that was over 5 hours of shooting. That is utilising the slower refresh rate viewfinder as well as the power saving options.
7 months since this video, are you still seeing the SD Card issue, Chelsea? I’ve had my R5 for about a month-this has not happened to me yet. Hoping a FW update might’ve resolved any such issues.
Has the SD card issue persisted even after the latest firmware update? They note some issues with the CF card, but don’t mention SD. Wonder if they just put it under the same umbrella “fix”.
If you want your cameras in multiple colors, Pentax has you covered 💀
Did you miss the hello kitty wrap on the R5/R6?I’ve had mine about 5 1/2 months and I have also had that auto focus problem that I hope they fix. I thought it was just me. I have not experienced a card formatting issue whatsoever however. Other than that focus and finding the eye, particularly on animals, it’s been a fantastic camera!
Your 5th issue can be solved by purchasing some skins for the Canon R5 or most new mirrorless bodies (and some DSLR). There are a few companies out there that sell them. I'd seen a few advertisements on Instagram.
The problem with SD card may be because you disconnect the SD card from your computer without "Eject" the disk first, it seems dumb to do that in 2021 but it can actually corrupt the SD and the camera won't recognize it anymore, with a different camera every time I unplugged it like that it would ask me to format the card in the camera.
The camera I just sold, the Fujifilm X-T3 was absolutely beautiful to look at but horribly uncomfortable to use. The Smallrig L bracket with its wooden grip extension helped a lot but not enough. My new R6 might be boring to LOOK at but it sure FEELs good to use. There is a reason the camera is so rounded and that is comfort. The camera isn't the art, the photo is the art. I enjoyed this video and I thought you had great lighting.
I have had no problem with my SD cards. Artie Morris at Birds As Art has a good document about the Canon R5 Auto Focus system and has a process for eliminating BBF, but also a one button option for switching to various auto focus types.that could easily solve your concern.
I’ve had the same problem with SD cards (Use my 7D Mark 2 to reformat). I thought the cause was my card reader but obviously not if you’ve had the same problem!
Great review.
In regards to battery life, it is heavily dependant on settings. I found out with my previous cameras, the canon M6 / M6 Mark II, I could get over 2000 images with a manual focus lens. There was a feature with AF lenses, I like a lot, but drained the battery quite fast and this is "Continues AF". This feature is in general great, but it will move your lenses a lot. Another feature is the power saving function. If you don't mind a minor inconvinience, just put it to the lowest settings. Just one more thing to remember with low power saving settings, restore them to a good duration, when you're trying to get images of your camera. Otherwise you'll end up with a camera shut down during an image transfer.