Honestly I'm a little disappointed that Spidey didn't go off about having to work part time jobs just so he can barely pay rent, and he just wanted to join a superhero team that somehow has enough money to have their own building.
Considering how Spider-man is struggling to make ends meet, I think it's only fair that he should get paid for what he does. Just because you're a hero doesn't make you a slave to society.
@@jankoleon3785yeah but they should still get paid a little expecially if people get mad at them after causing property damage when fighting other super powers individuals
This is why I like Ochaco Uraraka! Her desire to give back to her hard-working parents may seem a bit selfish, but risking your life to save others shouldn't leave you unable to provide for the people who worked their @$$e$ off so you could go to a decent school to learn to be a proper Hero!
Superheroes getting paid for their work isn't a bad concept, just a fact of life as realistically (as possible in a universe with super powered beings) most superheroes probably wouldn't come from wealthy families or be able to work as a hero full time without having some way to pay for bills unless they are part of a government funded Superhero team or be a Super genius like Reed who gets paid by companies just to keep his super science tech off the market so it doesn't make their services/tech obsolete!
@@jankoleon3785there's a difference between want and need. There's nothing selfish about getting enough money to provide for your needs. You know, the stuff you have to get to stay alive? Helping and saving people around you is much more difficult if you can't even meet your own needs. Being healthy and stable in turn helps you be better at saving and helping people.
"Didn't you have a motto like 'with great power comes great responsibility?'" "My landlord has one too. 'With no rent comes eviction.' Or do you want my doctor's? 'If you don't get more food, Pete, your stomach's gonna start eating itself.'"
@@COOLERthenU Hmm I wonder. I mean most of their team is already super strong. Iron fist is probably the most comparable to him in terms of strength and hand to hand .
@@darksideofevil13 true, tho with s[idermans popularity and controversialness it would bring in costumers and higher level enemy's like rhino do ock carnage etc, and with Luke and iorn fist with him theyed be easy as balls for him to take down in record time, thus makeing bank
Spidey: do you pay? Xavier: I mean... when half of the world hates you, its hard to get funded Spidey: *do you pay?* Xavier: **sigh** yes, but only if you agree to be a teacher or agree to be Beast's intern...
Spidey: Well, I have a doctorate in chemical engineering. Xavier: Great, you'll be the history teacher. Spidey: What? Xavier: Wolverine already runs the science department. Spidey: What? Wolverine: You don't get Adamantium infused into your body without learning a few things about science.
@@theotherjared9824 spider: you are LITERALLY from world war 2 and maybe even before that! Why don't you teach history? also weren't you unconscious during the procedure, or had your memory wiped or whatever?
It's funny, Reed gets all of his money from government patents, in which his inventions are so valuable that he was basically a billionaire in the 1960s when billionaires didn't exist yet. But there were a couple times the F4 were in dire straits and needed to make money fast, with one early issue having the team reluctantly accept a deal from Namor the Sub-Mariner to.... make a movie about themselves. I'm not kidding, Namor put on a whole business suit and set up the film paperwork just to f*ck with Reed and impress Sue.
dude if i had a dime for everytime an FF villain whole plan just ammounted to wants to fck with Richards and take Sue from him i could buy their movie rights
@@ironmaster6496 There's a story where Reed traveled to the future decades at a time, and Thing outlived all of them. It's actually pretty wholesome because this old rocky guy cherished those memories.
"Mutant" in Marvel Comics is a very specific thing; you have to get your powers from a gene called the "X-Gene". Spider-Man is what's called a "mutate", meaning he got his powers from an external source (lab accident / chosen by a Spider goddess; same with the Fantastic Four.
You actually do not need to be a mutant to join the X-Men. Mimic was the first person to join the X-Men after the first five, Juggernaut became a member one of the times he had a redemption arc, and Deadpool has claimed to be a member of the X-Men on several occasions.
@@JosiahtheMessiah-11809 No, he's a human mutate. Mutants in Marvel are defined by the presence of the X-gene in their DNA--they're born with their powers and are a borderline different species entirely--hence "homo superior." Human Mutates get their powers from external factors. They're still "homo sapiens" but with some extra juice in them.
‘Well the Avengers didn’t call back.’ To be fair, that’s less of a Knock at the Fantastic Four and more just the fact that Peter DOES want to be part of a team, and explaining why he’s been solo until now.
You know if Reed just gave spidey access to the Baxter Building to live in he might be happier. Hell have him help with the research and inventions that do fund the Fantastic 4.
I mean Spider-Man is not really wrong with the fantastic for these guys are basically living off good about than other heroes don’t really get the best income. Especially when it comes to peters life when his constant financial struggles is his the pain of his existence. So I don’t really blame Spidey for wanting to get paid because again not everyone can have with the fantastic four have. Also, the lease with the X-Men. Yeah he’ll have to deal with wolverine but they’re actually chill people.
I think Peter is willing to deal with a messy roommate if it means not having to do multiple side jobs while also being a superhero just so he can just barely pay rent
Well the still don’t get paid for being heroes they get their money from Reed being a scientist. spidey could always join Luke Cage and iron fist if he wanted to make money doing superhero stuff
To be fair Spider man is walking around with a billion dollar idea on his wrist Web fluid can catch people cars f ingg buildings on a high schoolers budget imagine how much shield would pay for that. Best part it's basically non lethal as spider man has webbed people in the mouth on multiple occasions and left them but they were fine
Not to mention it would make sense that the guy who studies chemistry and takes pictures of Spiderman to think "Huh, I could replicate that stuff." Hell, between Tony Stark and Reed Richard he already has two likely investors for his "Just like Spiderman webbing."
@@rojaedavis8367 If I have to pick between a criminal using a web-shooter to rob me and a criminal using a gun to rob me, I'm going with the first one. Though maybe the bigger problem is people jumping off buildings thinking they could use them to web swing.
Ironically enough Johnny and Peter are such best friends to the point Peter joined the future foundation Because Johnny wanted him to incase Johnny died
1:08 Nah I'm with Spidey on this one. If joining or getting involved with the BS that comes with being any type of Super Hero I expect to see money being added to my bank account that I can live off of.
Spider-Man should just work for Heroes for Hire if all he cares about is the money, and not for the altruistic values of saving lives solely for saving lives as the pure and perfect responsible values to have which superheroes are supposed to have.
There's nothing selfish about wanting that money. There's a difference between want and need afterall. If you don't have enough money to take care of yourself then it would make it more difficult to save people as a superhero.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr When "altruism" comes at the cost of actually being able to be altruistic, then there's a problem. Being a pure-hearted hero doesn't negate the need for food and shelter. And if a hero wants the money for that, then they have to get a job, and put time and effort into keeping that job. Time and effort that could've been put into being a hero.
Pretty sure that happened in the 90s Spider-Man animated series. Or maybe it was Ultimate Spider-Man. Regardless, he goes to the X-Men for help and they're like "nah, you're not a mutant".
"Wait a second, aren't you already the Fantastic Five?" "What do you mean?" "I am talking about the robot. He replaced Jonny in the cartoon." "You replaced me!? You told me we where going on separate vacations." "Business trips! ...but not having you around for a while surely felt like a vacation."
Maybe emergency jobs like saving lives and saving the world could be freebies, but smaller services could be for a fee. Like what the Hidden Leaf Village does.
I hate to disagree with Spidey, but I have to side with Mr. Fantastic. Unlike legitimate law-enforcers who do get paid for their actions, someone like Spider-Man is working under no rules and regulation that he has to follow. As a web swinging vigilante he’s doing his own thing. Compared to superheroes like Hawkeye and black widow, who are officially licensed by shield, Peter has a lot more freedom to what he wants to do but that also means he doesn’t get the benefits of being paid . Mr. Fantastic on the other hand most likely gets paid for being a scientist and inventing machinery that benefits society. Would it be nice if he paid his teammates, undoubtably. But he has no obligation to do so. (Plus, he lets all of his teammates live in a four-story New York penthouse.) So, as much as I want to side with Spidey, I but if he wants the freedom to be a superhero on his own terms, this is the cost. You can either join a group like shield and receive payment for his actions, or he can do the superhero equivalent of volunteer work.
Spidey: don’t go pulling that “we don’t do this for money”crap on me, you’re clearly rich, meanwhile I am a month behind on rent for my crappy apartment and had eat from a dumpster last week
@@DanielLCarrier And then Spiky bodies the team and just loots the place. Sue is literally the only problem and if she heard the convo could just pretend to not be there.
To be fair, the money is distincly Reeds and Susans (marriage), as alot of the income come from his super science. As for the rest of the team read may provide housing, food, and entertainment, and probably a allowence. I would immagine Johnny and Grimm have side hussles, like helping out in construction, welding, betting 100% both of them gamble from time to time, and maybe an odd job or 2 for extras cash. Either Richard or more likely Susan will give the team money if their in need. Like Reed cares for Ben, and Susan cares for her family Johnny.
@@hpos1086 that too, while peter makes nothing... to be fair peter never patent his design and immage due to identity, somthing reed would definitely do.
Spider-Man is a mutant. His DNA was mutated. The Mutants inherited their X-gene. They're not mutants. The X-Men only takes Mutants. They do not allow mutants.
0:09 This once again is the truth. Even with all the team ups, Spider-Man is a solo act for 90% of his adventures. *Cough* Looking at you MCU Spider-Man *Cough*
@@LocalGuardsman Exactly. Why the fuck would that even be a thing in a Spider-Man story, specifically a still teen Spider-Man story? Forced in just for the sake of reminding the audience for the 1000th time that "Look look, Spider-Man is in the larger MCU universe!" For fuck sake I want a SPIDER-MAN movie, not an Avenger wannabe movie.
Two things are always cannon in every marvel universe: 1. Writers fuck around with spidey’s personal shit. 2. Reed Richards will always be the “smartest man alive”
if ı was at spider man position ı would do the same thing ı won't demand money before a team because ı would be street hero and probably no one gonna pay a random ass hero walking or flying around. But once ı get to join a superhero team like avengers,xmen or fantastic 4 ı absolutely demand money because that teams are get paid by goverment or fueled by a rich person and when you join that teams you basicly a global level hero so when you need some funding at this level a lot of people would give money for you
Spidey actually joined the X-Men as a teacher, though he eventually quit the job because, ironically, the X-Men are rac*st and he got a bunch of incompetent, rac¡st kids. I haven't read that saga in a while so I don't know if that's exactly what happened, but I don't care that's my canon now.
Spider-man: Since Avengerse didnt accept me, Fantastic Four arent going to pay me, and i must be a mutant to join the X-men, that leaves me with only one option... 1 hoour Later Spider-man - Mr.Fury, do you need agents?
"dont you need to be a mutant to join the xmen?" > Spiderman, who has layed pipe in at least 3 x-men members on a few occasions and was dating kitty pride for the ultimate timeline: "Im something of a mutant myself" That and he gets jumped by sentinel's and harassed by deadpool occasionally so he gets the pass
At least here Pete had a little bit of respect for the team, in Amazing spiderman 1 he just sneaks in the building and boast about himself demanding to join them 😂
Fun fact: Spiderman's first appearance was in a Fantastic Four comic. He was actually a member for a bit too after it seemed like Johnny Storm was killed.
“Don’t you need to be a mutant to join the X-men” - Guy whose skin catches fire, talking about the dude whose DNA was rewritten by a radioactive spider.
No one's having a good day if your friendly neighborhood spider is starving to death under a bridge, when the green goblin attacks. So pay your god damn superheros so that that doesn't happen.
Calling a superhero selfish for wanting to get money for the work they do is the same as calling a firefighter, paramedic, or police officer selfish for taking compensation for risking their lives.
See, this is why superhero teams should be like how they showed in the Incredibles. A government funded law enforcement so they can help out while still getting paid and keeping their identities secret. Laws today would also stop lawsuits like what happened to Mr. Incredible at the start of the movie.
The funny thing is that this is essentially what happened in The Amazing Spider-man issue #1. Spider-man tried to join the fantastic four then got upset when he found out that they were non profit.
Spider-man makes a good point, but wouldn't it be better if he moved into Avengers or Fantastic Four Tower? I mean, Peter wouldn't have to pay rent anymore and have a place to live. That would have food, water, and other things. Yeah, his social life would be weird, and he would still need money, but he could still work for the daily bugle. Make money there, save it up, and later buy a place of his own. If he needs a cover story, I'm sure the teams could set up a dummy house or something. I'm not saying I'm right about this. It's just a thought.
Peter could just say hes friends with Johnny or friends with *insert whatever Avenger he teams up with* only problem would be the villians targeting Him more. Also the random comic events that happened to those buildings.
Spidey: "...Yes, I've been doing this hero thing for a while now. Have you not...? I would've assumed it's obvious, but maybe someone who's so obviously loaded and has their own Avengers-like tower doesn't get it- If I don't get paid, I'll need to keep working a BS 9-5, just so I can afford food and find a-...I mean... *_stay_* _at my apartment._ ......WHAT _exactly_ do you want me to do if/when you call me while I'm AT WORK...?? You'd want me to get to you ASAP, obviously, but if I leave my job abruptly so many times, they'll fire me! Even if they don't, my pay will be cut because I'll be HELPING YOU GUYS. If this is more important than that job, which I believe it is, I should be paid for it anyway!!" Reed: "...This is true, very true." Spidey: "Oh, good! I was worried that you-" Reed: _"But I'm still not paying you."_ Spidey: "-CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF...!!!" [Thwip!] Reed: "...What an assho-MM...?!?" [Reed's mouth is suddebly webbed closed] In the distance: _"...the only good thing about you is your wife...!!!"_ Sue, thinking to herself: "(Well...not UNtrue...)"
Spider-Man: You're a super-genius! You make tons of money from patents. Is it too much to ask for you to share some of it with your teammates? Mister Fantastic: That is a good point. Wait, aren't you a super-genius too?
To be fair: Richards is a billionaire who sold a LOT of high-end technology and patents to the US army. He can afford to pay himself and everyone else on the team whatever he wants. Reed Richards has Tony Stark money.
Depending on which Spiderman he is, his web powers may be the result of genetic mutation and thus a mutant. It might not be via the X Gene specifically but Prof X is a real charity case and all Spiderman would need to do to play the victim card is turn on the news to JJJ's news show slamming Spiderman.
I need money why do you think I take pictures of myself as Peter Parker and have other jobs including delivering pizza at one point delivered a pizza Levi actually delivered Pizza right to this very building because Johnny ordered it
This reminds me of the issue of FF when Ben finally has it explained to him, by Reed, after decades, that he is a one-fourth owner of all assets of the FF and is thus a billionaire. To his credit Ben immediately used his money to build a community center on Yancy Street.
Answer from original comics: they dont get paid. They had some money from the begining + mr. Fantastic sometimes sell his inventions , and sometimes he tryes to play on the market. He is bad at it. They lodt every last cent. He is an idiot.
Bro doesn't realize but they had a few shows made so they cam earn that extra green, if I remember their was a comic mentioning a bad fantastic four show. They were making fun of it, so technically they earn money from toys, shows and all sorts of merchandise
With great power comes great responsibility To society and to yourself don't let your righteous actions drive you to misery, to help people you must first be able to continue living.
wait spiderman acts rude thirsts for another mans women and cares for money more then saving live i think i know who this really is (takes off mask to revel paul) aha just as i expected paul paul: and i would have gotten away with it too if it wasnt for you mediling superheroes
I mean technically Reed is able to afford the Baxter Building because of his patents. That's his primary form of income. He invented some stuff and gets royalties for it.
If i was superhero at first it would be exciting and fun but after a while reality begins to set in as I struggle to pay bills and poor scheduling so I decide to hang up the cowl to get my life back in order there is nothing selfish about wanting to live comfortably
Honestly I'm a little disappointed that Spidey didn't go off about having to work part time jobs just so he can barely pay rent, and he just wanted to join a superhero team that somehow has enough money to have their own building.
In Manhattan!!!
To be honest, I'm surprised they didn't go a similar route as you suggested.
@@alaina4070thats the most crucial detail, manhattan real estate is stupid expensive
I think it's Reed Richards' patents that pays for everything
If it makes you happier, they go through a route like that in Spiderman snaps again
Considering how Spider-man is struggling to make ends meet, I think it's only fair that he should get paid for what he does. Just because you're a hero doesn't make you a slave to society.
Well, the entire idea of being a hero in general is to be selfless.
@@jankoleon3785yeah but they should still get paid a little expecially if people get mad at them after causing property damage when fighting other super powers individuals
This is why I like Ochaco Uraraka! Her desire to give back to her hard-working parents may seem a bit selfish, but risking your life to save others shouldn't leave you unable to provide for the people who worked their @$$e$ off so you could go to a decent school to learn to be a proper Hero!
Superheroes getting paid for their work isn't a bad concept, just a fact of life as realistically (as possible in a universe with super powered beings) most superheroes probably wouldn't come from wealthy families or be able to work as a hero full time without having some way to pay for bills unless they are part of a government funded Superhero team or be a Super genius like Reed who gets paid by companies just to keep his super science tech off the market so it doesn't make their services/tech obsolete!
@@jankoleon3785there's a difference between want and need. There's nothing selfish about getting enough money to provide for your needs. You know, the stuff you have to get to stay alive?
Helping and saving people around you is much more difficult if you can't even meet your own needs. Being healthy and stable in turn helps you be better at saving and helping people.
"Didn't you have a motto like 'with great power comes great responsibility?'"
"My landlord has one too. 'With no rent comes eviction.' Or do you want my doctor's? 'If you don't get more food, Pete, your stomach's gonna start eating itself.'"
Another ver for the landlord one
"Well my landlord also has something like that. It's "this is a free country not a rent free country"."
@@Sven-vy5cu go home, everyone, we did it. We achieved comedy.
@@Sven-vy5cuReed Richards: You'll get your pay, when you fix this damn door!
Wouldn’t a spot in the Fantastic Four come with room and board in the Baxter building?
He can't afford to eat but he can afford a doctor?
Now i want a series where Spiderman joins every marvel team he can just to see if he will get paid eventually the Justice league would take him
Spider-man: will I get paid
Batman: of crouse. We also offer detial and free meals
Spider-man: oh hells yeah
I mean, not as glamorous , but I think Heroes for Hire charge for their services. He could try them.
@@darksideofevil13 true and spidey would up there success rate and the level of shit they can Handel bye alot thus upping there revanue
@@COOLERthenU Hmm I wonder. I mean most of their team is already super strong. Iron fist is probably the most comparable to him in terms of strength and hand to hand .
@@darksideofevil13 true, tho with s[idermans popularity and controversialness it would bring in costumers and higher level enemy's like rhino do ock carnage etc, and with Luke and iorn fist with him theyed be easy as balls for him to take down in record time, thus makeing bank
That’s basically what happened in Amazing Spider-Man #1.
Yeah basically
Basically, it was.
Yeo
First he broke in and started whipping all their asses to prove himself.
Actually the second ever spiderman comic.
Spidey: do you pay?
Xavier: I mean... when half of the world hates you, its hard to get funded
Spidey: *do you pay?*
Xavier: **sigh** yes, but only if you agree to be a teacher or agree to be Beast's intern...
Spidey: Well, I have a doctorate in chemical engineering.
Xavier: Great, you'll be the history teacher.
Spidey: What?
Xavier: Wolverine already runs the science department.
Spidey: What?
Wolverine: You don't get Adamantium infused into your body without learning a few things about science.
Correct if I'm but I think Spidey was actually a teacher in the x-men for a while, he was infact so good that other teachers got jealous
@@NP3GAyea it happened and I was laughing
Actually that works spidey did become a teacher in the comics
@@theotherjared9824
spider: you are LITERALLY from world war 2 and maybe even before that! Why don't you teach history? also weren't you unconscious during the procedure, or had your memory wiped or whatever?
Ironically, Spider Man is the closest thing the Fantastic Four have to a fifth member. Although sometimes he shares that title with She-Hulk.
The fantastic four views spidey as family along with she hulk banner and and Logan which is a he odd knee out
@@painvillegaming4119 well Bruce is usually friendly with Ben Grimm, Peter joined after Johnny storm "Died"
@@redhood7650 Peter is also one of Johnny's best friends.
What about H.E.R.B.I.E.?
@@painvillegaming4119 i mean they're the easiest crossovers without going into "why is this person bothering" territory for repeats.
It's funny, Reed gets all of his money from government patents, in which his inventions are so valuable that he was basically a billionaire in the 1960s when billionaires didn't exist yet.
But there were a couple times the F4 were in dire straits and needed to make money fast, with one early issue having the team reluctantly accept a deal from Namor the Sub-Mariner to.... make a movie about themselves.
I'm not kidding, Namor put on a whole business suit and set up the film paperwork just to f*ck with Reed and impress Sue.
Was that movie by any chance fant4stic?
They also get their money from merchandising.
Not as weird as that comic where Superman and Big Barda were in a porno.
@@bestaround3323
It couldn't be because the film was a success and brought the team out of bankruptcy.
dude if i had a dime for everytime an FF villain whole plan just ammounted to wants to fck with Richards and take Sue from him i could buy their movie rights
I want a show about Spidey and Ben trying to turn the hero thing into an actual liveable lifestyle
Heroes for Hire basically?
@@IRONHEART49 honestly i just want to see the Thing in something, anything just give the spotlight back to Ben
@@ironmaster6496 There's a story where Reed traveled to the future decades at a time, and Thing outlived all of them. It's actually pretty wholesome because this old rocky guy cherished those memories.
Human Torch:don't you need to be a mutant to join the X-Men?
Spider-Man:I got my powers by a radioactive spider
Human Torch: *shrugs* close enough...
"Mutant" in Marvel Comics is a very specific thing; you have to get your powers from a gene called the "X-Gene".
Spider-Man is what's called a "mutate", meaning he got his powers from an external source (lab accident / chosen by a Spider goddess; same with the Fantastic Four.
Excuse me but a spider what now?
@@maniacgreen8609Spider Totems been around fpr eh... a decade now if I remember right.
I thought the thing about spiderman that anyone could be spiderman
@@Nobody-qo7vh Two decades really
Peter got traumatized by Paul so much that he's starting to go after other guys' wives too.
We don't speak about PaUl
Ouch...
You take what you can get after terrible editors sell your marriage to Mephisto, I guess?
Peter isn't stupid enough to do that
At least he'll be Sue's bodyguard if Namor comes attacking the F4
You actually do not need to be a mutant to join the X-Men. Mimic was the first person to join the X-Men after the first five, Juggernaut became a member one of the times he had a redemption arc, and Deadpool has claimed to be a member of the X-Men on several occasions.
Deadpool is a mutant
Technically, Spider-Man is a mutant
@@eduardopantoja9115
Not in the comics.
@@JosiahtheMessiah-11809
No, he's a human mutate. Mutants in Marvel are defined by the presence of the X-gene in their DNA--they're born with their powers and are a borderline different species entirely--hence "homo superior."
Human Mutates get their powers from external factors. They're still "homo sapiens" but with some extra juice in them.
@@JosiahtheMessiah-11809 No he's a mutate
‘Well the Avengers didn’t call back.’
To be fair, that’s less of a Knock at the Fantastic Four and more just the fact that Peter DOES want to be part of a team, and explaining why he’s been solo until now.
You know if Reed just gave spidey access to the Baxter Building to live in he might be happier. Hell have him help with the research and inventions that do fund the Fantastic 4.
Honestly that's all spidey really needs is a place to live. Throwing in the research and invention would be a dream come true to him.
He needs money for aunt may and Mary jane too
@@orderflowarchives oh no, how ever would they find a place in that building or afford it. Reed is just a dick.
Well now I want a sequel with Spidey and the X-Men.
They call it Wolverine and the X-Men for a reason.
I mean Spider-Man is not really wrong with the fantastic for these guys are basically living off good about than other heroes don’t really get the best income. Especially when it comes to peters life when his constant financial struggles is his the pain of his existence. So I don’t really blame Spidey for wanting to get paid because again not everyone can have with the fantastic four have. Also, the lease with the X-Men. Yeah he’ll have to deal with wolverine but they’re actually chill people.
I think Peter is willing to deal with a messy roommate if it means not having to do multiple side jobs while also being a superhero just so he can just barely pay rent
I mean spidey is a good friend to wolverine, he even got invited to his birthday that should say enough.
@@TheRealA-Trainman.lives in new york
Well the still don’t get paid for being heroes they get their money from Reed being a scientist. spidey could always join Luke Cage and iron fist if he wanted to make money doing superhero stuff
@@niccoloparker3548 Touche
Spidey:HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO SAVE LIVES IF I DIE STARVING AND ON THE STREET UNDER A TRASH COVER?
Richard: uhhh what?
Spidey:you UNDERSTAND ME OLD ASS
"With great work comes great pay" -Spiderman Union
Reed dodged a bullet. Spidey joining would’ve led to a sequence of events that end with him getting cucked by Namor.
There's nothing wrong with becoming an important person in the life of Spiderman.
I mean, aside from dying, getting killed, or worse.
To be fair
Spider man is walking around with a billion dollar idea on his wrist
Web fluid can catch people cars f ingg buildings on a high schoolers budget imagine how much shield would pay for that.
Best part it's basically non lethal as spider man has webbed people in the mouth on multiple occasions and left them but they were fine
Spidey's fluis disolves in like 2 hours... But yeah.
If Ironman has shown me anything is that some things are better left off the market.
Not to mention it would make sense that the guy who studies chemistry and takes pictures of Spiderman to think "Huh, I could replicate that stuff." Hell, between Tony Stark and Reed Richard he already has two likely investors for his "Just like Spiderman webbing."
@@rojaedavis8367 If I have to pick between a criminal using a web-shooter to rob me and a criminal using a gun to rob me, I'm going with the first one. Though maybe the bigger problem is people jumping off buildings thinking they could use them to web swing.
@@DanielLCarrier Maybe. But in the first place, let's not make it easier for criminals to do crimes
We need a sequel but is Profesor X explaining to Peter that only mutants can join and that he is classified as "radioactive meta human"
Professor x should say..yes we do pay...but only mutants
Ironically enough Johnny and Peter are such best friends to the point Peter joined the future foundation Because Johnny wanted him to incase Johnny died
1:08 Nah I'm with Spidey on this one. If joining or getting involved with the BS that comes with being any type of Super Hero I expect to see money being added to my bank account that I can live off of.
Spider-Man should just work for Heroes for Hire if all he cares about is the money, and not for the altruistic values of saving lives solely for saving lives as the pure and perfect responsible values to have which superheroes are supposed to have.
There's nothing selfish about wanting that money. There's a difference between want and need afterall. If you don't have enough money to take care of yourself then it would make it more difficult to save people as a superhero.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr When "altruism" comes at the cost of actually being able to be altruistic, then there's a problem. Being a pure-hearted hero doesn't negate the need for food and shelter. And if a hero wants the money for that, then they have to get a job, and put time and effort into keeping that job. Time and effort that could've been put into being a hero.
Pretty sure that happened in the 90s Spider-Man animated series. Or maybe it was Ultimate Spider-Man. Regardless, he goes to the X-Men for help and they're like "nah, you're not a mutant".
While 616 Spider-Man had temporarily joined the X-Men because a dead Wolverine requested for his help to find a spy in the delinquent class
They can still hire him
Mutated erasure in full effect.
Except Beast. He's ride and die
I love how in every skit about the Fantastic Four, Blaze is literally setting ablaze and in agony
Spidey: So are you sure there's no way to get paid to be a hero ?
Mr. Fantastic: Well there's always moving to Japan to become a pro-hero
Spidey in Japan would bring the Tokusatsu characters bowing to him since he played a major role in their franchise
@@sk_hermit1809only super Sentai because the other big two, Ultraman and Kamen Rider, dont share nothing with spidey.
till cool.
MHA??
In fairness, he joined a team at one point because he was going to get paid
It's not always about the money Spider-Man
"Its about sending a message."
Oh wait wrong universe my bad
It's about the METS BABY I LOVE THE METS YEAH!
It's about the swagger
@@evansellers5205, hit a home run baby; everyone loves the Mets baby; way to go the Mets.
The funny thing is this is literally what the first official Spider-Man comic was about
Kinda? It's the first Spider-Man comic book, but his first story was in an anthology comic
"Wait a second, aren't you already the Fantastic Five?"
"What do you mean?"
"I am talking about the robot. He replaced Jonny in the cartoon."
"You replaced me!? You told me we where going on separate vacations."
"Business trips! ...but not having you around for a while surely felt like a vacation."
"Yes, we *replaced* Johnny. There were still four of us."
Maybe emergency jobs like saving lives and saving the world could be freebies, but smaller services could be for a fee.
Like what the Hidden Leaf Village does.
Oh god, Spidey revealed how the people Reed sees as a family don’t really see him as family. He’s gonna become the Maker!
In the comics, Mister Fantastic pays the Baxter Building's taxes off by selling some of his inventions.
it's not abou the money Spide-Man
IT'S ABOUT THE METS. YEAH ALRIGHT THE METS GET A HOME RUN YEAH BABY LOVE THE METS!!!
I hate to disagree with Spidey, but I have to side with Mr. Fantastic.
Unlike legitimate law-enforcers who do get paid for their actions, someone like Spider-Man is working under no rules and regulation that he has to follow. As a web swinging vigilante he’s doing his own thing.
Compared to superheroes like Hawkeye and black widow, who are officially licensed by shield, Peter has a lot more freedom to what he wants to do but that also means he doesn’t get the benefits of being paid .
Mr. Fantastic on the other hand most likely gets paid for being a scientist and inventing machinery that benefits society. Would it be nice if he paid his teammates, undoubtably. But he has no obligation to do so. (Plus, he lets all of his teammates live in a four-story New York penthouse.)
So, as much as I want to side with Spidey, I but if he wants the freedom to be a superhero on his own terms, this is the cost. You can either join a group like shield and receive payment for his actions, or he can do the superhero equivalent of volunteer work.
If I was Spidey I would ask my rich best friend to give me a job
IIRC the baxter foundation is a nonprofit organization, and any rewards they get goes to scientific research
😂 the Avengers didn’t l call back
Stan Lee being the janitor is right on point 😂
fun fact: one of the first things Spider-man ever does is try to join the FF. he does this before he joins the bugle
Spidey: don’t go pulling that “we don’t do this for money”crap on me, you’re clearly rich, meanwhile I am a month behind on rent for my crappy apartment and had eat from a dumpster last week
Mister Fantastic: "I'm rich because of my inventions. I'm not going to give you money just because you're too lazy to patent yours."
@@DanielLCarrier And then Spiky bodies the team and just loots the place. Sue is literally the only problem and if she heard the convo could just pretend to not be there.
Once Wolverine got Spidey a teaching position in the X-Mansion
To be fair, the money is distincly Reeds and Susans (marriage), as alot of the income come from his super science. As for the rest of the team read may provide housing, food, and entertainment, and probably a allowence. I would immagine Johnny and Grimm have side hussles, like helping out in construction, welding, betting 100% both of them gamble from time to time, and maybe an odd job or 2 for extras cash. Either Richard or more likely Susan will give the team money if their in need. Like Reed cares for Ben, and Susan cares for her family Johnny.
The FF make a crap ton of money off merchandise.
@@hpos1086
that too, while peter makes nothing... to be fair peter never patent his design and immage due to identity, somthing reed would definitely do.
Johnny: Wait a minute, don't you need to be a mutant to join the X-Men?
Me: does being bit by a radioactive spider NOT count as being a mutant???
It does!
Only born Mutants, Mutates are those changed by outside forces in Marvel.
Funny enough, Magneto sent the Brotherhood to capture Peter to join them because he mistook him as a mutant
Spider-Man is a mutant. His DNA was mutated. The Mutants inherited their X-gene. They're not mutants. The X-Men only takes Mutants. They do not allow mutants.
I just lost my job the other day, so this is perfect timing! XD
damn, hope you'll get a new one soon man
@@AG_Speaks No worries. I'm working at my new job now. First paycheck is next week!
@@fyrewatermelons its glad to see you're doing well man!
"Peter you'll get your pay when you fix that DAM DOOR!!!"
0:09
This once again is the truth. Even with all the team ups, Spider-Man is a solo act for 90% of his adventures.
*Cough* Looking at you MCU Spider-Man *Cough*
I mean tbf to the MCU Avengers, Tony did offer him a spot on the team, with full benefits, accommodations and everything. He just chose not to.
Well now he is after no way home
@@LocalGuardsman Exactly.
Why the fuck would that even be a thing in a Spider-Man story, specifically a still teen Spider-Man story?
Forced in just for the sake of reminding the audience for the 1000th time that "Look look, Spider-Man is in the larger MCU universe!"
For fuck sake I want a SPIDER-MAN movie, not an Avenger wannabe movie.
Not if you count the times he's teamed up with other Spider People, his clone Ben Reilly, & Black Cat!
Bruh every Spider-Man has teamed up with someone before so, y should MCU Spider-Man be any different? Plus he literally rejected the offer before too
Two things are always cannon in every marvel universe:
1. Writers fuck around with spidey’s personal shit.
2. Reed Richards will always be the “smartest man alive”
The fact that this is an abridged version of a real story arc.
Please make spider man black cat video.
if ı was at spider man position ı would do the same thing ı won't demand money before a team because ı would be street hero and probably no one gonna pay a random ass hero walking or flying around.
But once ı get to join a superhero team like avengers,xmen or fantastic 4 ı absolutely demand money because that teams are get paid by goverment or fueled by a rich person and when you join that teams you basicly a global level hero so when you need some funding at this level a lot of people would give money for you
Spidey actually joined the X-Men as a teacher, though he eventually quit the job because, ironically, the X-Men are rac*st and he got a bunch of incompetent, rac¡st kids.
I haven't read that saga in a while so I don't know if that's exactly what happened, but I don't care that's my canon now.
Spider-man: Since Avengerse didnt accept me, Fantastic Four arent going to pay me, and i must be a mutant to join the X-men, that leaves me with only one option...
1 hoour Later
Spider-man - Mr.Fury, do you need agents?
“Hey thanks for saving the world with us but I’m sorry we don’t have a health plan.” Yeah ok, think we found who the real villain is.
I mean I'm just saying, the x-men are the most friendly and accepting group to spider man, even though spidey isn't a traditional mutant.
Amazing Spider-Man Issue #1 in a nutshell tbh
Janitor Stanley = Stan Lee 🤯
"dont you need to be a mutant to join the xmen?"
> Spiderman, who has layed pipe in at least 3 x-men members on a few occasions and was dating kitty pride for the ultimate timeline:
"Im something of a mutant myself"
That and he gets jumped by sentinel's and harassed by deadpool occasionally so he gets the pass
At least here Pete had a little bit of respect for the team, in Amazing spiderman 1 he just sneaks in the building and boast about himself demanding to join them 😂
Fun fact: Spiderman's first appearance was in a Fantastic Four comic. He was actually a member for a bit too after it seemed like Johnny Storm was killed.
It was actually Amazing Fantasy 14
@@TupocalypseShakurhe meant fist appearance in Marvel comics since amazing fantasy is not marvel so Spider-Man official appearance is in fanatic four
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 But his first meeting with the Fantastic Four was in The Amazing Spider-Man #1
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 where do you get that amazing fantasy is not marvel?
@@TupocalypseShakur it was #15 actually.
“Don’t you need to be a mutant to join the X-men”
- Guy whose skin catches fire, talking about the dude whose DNA was rewritten by a radioactive spider.
Any company you join who wants to be a family is trying to rip you off.
This made me chuckle sense Spider-Man has actually joined the Fantastic Four a few times lol
The Amazing Spider-Man #1 In a nutshell
I guess the Fantastic 4 aren't in it 4 the money.
I'll see myself out now.
Professor impossibl-i mean Mr.fantastic should able to afford paying spidey atleast better than daily bugle.
No one's having a good day if your friendly neighborhood spider is starving to death under a bridge, when the green goblin attacks. So pay your god damn superheros so that that doesn't happen.
Calling a superhero selfish for wanting to get money for the work they do is the same as calling a firefighter, paramedic, or police officer selfish for taking compensation for risking their lives.
Spidey: well excuse me it's just i need money to make sure I'll have my apartment and my loved ones ok and i lost my uncle which is hard already
See, this is why superhero teams should be like how they showed in the Incredibles. A government funded law enforcement so they can help out while still getting paid and keeping their identities secret. Laws today would also stop lawsuits like what happened to Mr. Incredible at the start of the movie.
2:00 Mr Stanley wouldn’t happen to be an old man with glasses and a tendency to call people true believers would he?
And yet the people protest the mutants and not the government stiffing the heroes ……smh marvel cubs be having there priorities all over the place
I love the nod to the fact Peter isn't a mutant but he's sometimes treated like one by X-Men foes
with great power comes great responsibility and with great responsibility comes great pay
The funny thing is that this is essentially what happened in The Amazing Spider-man issue #1. Spider-man tried to join the fantastic four then got upset when he found out that they were non profit.
i mean even non profit organizations can pay their workers a lot of the time
I mean helping people is great and all but what does a person do when they run out of money or can't pay the rent?
Meanwhile in the My Hero Academia universe...
“wait a second don’t you need to be a mutant to join the X-Men”
And thus the house of M timeline
Spider-man makes a good point, but wouldn't it be better if he moved into Avengers or Fantastic Four Tower? I mean, Peter wouldn't have to pay rent anymore and have a place to live. That would have food, water, and other things. Yeah, his social life would be weird, and he would still need money, but he could still work for the daily bugle. Make money there, save it up, and later buy a place of his own. If he needs a cover story, I'm sure the teams could set up a dummy house or something. I'm not saying I'm right about this. It's just a thought.
Peter could just say hes friends with Johnny or friends with *insert whatever Avenger he teams up with* only problem would be the villians targeting Him more. Also the random comic events that happened to those buildings.
Spidey:
"...Yes, I've been doing this hero thing for a while now. Have you not...? I would've assumed it's obvious, but maybe someone who's so obviously loaded and has their own Avengers-like tower doesn't get it-
If I don't get paid, I'll need to keep working a BS 9-5, just so I can afford food and find a-...I mean...
*_stay_* _at my apartment._
......WHAT _exactly_ do you want me to do if/when you call me while I'm AT WORK...??
You'd want me to get to you ASAP, obviously, but if I leave my job abruptly so many times, they'll fire me!
Even if they don't, my pay will be cut because I'll be HELPING YOU GUYS.
If this is more important than that job, which I believe it is, I should be paid for it anyway!!"
Reed: "...This is true, very true."
Spidey: "Oh, good! I was worried that you-"
Reed: _"But I'm still not paying you."_
Spidey: "-CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF...!!!"
[Thwip!]
Reed: "...What an assho-MM...?!?"
[Reed's mouth is suddebly webbed closed]
In the distance:
_"...the only good thing about you is your wife...!!!"_
Sue, thinking to herself: "(Well...not UNtrue...)"
I'm with Spidey on this one.
Don't worry about fantastic four we will do save MCU movie too soon.
bro this is amazing spider-man #1 in a nutshell 💀
Mr. Stanley
Stan Lee
That's cute
“With great power, comes great responsibility. But with New York apartments comes even greater bills.”
Spider-Man: You're a super-genius! You make tons of money from patents. Is it too much to ask for you to share some of it with your teammates?
Mister Fantastic: That is a good point. Wait, aren't you a super-genius too?
To be fair: Richards is a billionaire who sold a LOT of high-end technology and patents to the US army. He can afford to pay himself and everyone else on the team whatever he wants. Reed Richards has Tony Stark money.
Honestly the only way I can see him making money with the whole Spider-Man thing is to forsake the no-kill rule and become a mercenary under Kingpin
No that’s dc
"How about you get off your high horse"
It's your fucking horse Spiderman
Don't worry Spidey. Reed is so bad with money the 4 almost got evicted! No koke! It's in the early issues!😂
Depending on which Spiderman he is, his web powers may be the result of genetic mutation and thus a mutant. It might not be via the X Gene specifically but Prof X is a real charity case and all Spiderman would need to do to play the victim card is turn on the news to JJJ's news show slamming Spiderman.
I need money why do you think I take pictures of myself as Peter Parker and have other jobs including delivering pizza at one point delivered a pizza Levi actually delivered Pizza right to this very building because Johnny ordered it
This reminds me of the issue of FF when Ben finally has it explained to him, by Reed, after decades, that he is a one-fourth owner of all assets of the FF and is thus a billionaire. To his credit Ben immediately used his money to build a community center on Yancy Street.
Answer from original comics: they dont get paid. They had some money from the begining + mr. Fantastic sometimes sell his inventions , and sometimes he tryes to play on the market. He is bad at it. They lodt every last cent.
He is an idiot.
Is it true that Homer Simpson was bitten by a radio active doughnut...😮
Don’t the Fantastic Four sell merchandise in universe and does this mean that Reed isn’t giving his “family” their cut of the merchandise sales
Bro doesn't realize but they had a few shows made so they cam earn that extra green, if I remember their was a comic mentioning a bad fantastic four show. They were making fun of it, so technically they earn money from toys, shows and all sorts of merchandise
With great power comes great responsibility
To society and to yourself don't let your righteous actions drive you to misery, to help people you must first be able to continue living.
wait spiderman acts rude thirsts for another mans women and cares for money more then saving live i think i know who this really is
(takes off mask to revel paul)
aha just as i expected paul
paul: and i would have gotten away with it too if it wasnt for you mediling superheroes
I mean technically Reed is able to afford the Baxter Building because of his patents. That's his primary form of income.
He invented some stuff and gets royalties for it.
If i was superhero at first it would be exciting and fun but after a while reality begins to set in as I struggle to pay bills and poor scheduling so I decide to hang up the cowl to get my life back in order there is nothing selfish about wanting to live comfortably
Joni and Peter are actually really good friends. I would’ve loved some banter between them