Awesome video man! I have an M9 with a corroded sensor, but the corrosion is only visible at f8. Since I shoot mostly family stuff and open the apature at f4 or wider, the corrosion is fortunately not visible. And I got it for around 1000$ - therefore I can live with it. Keep up the great work!
It will corrode more over time, and might potentially break the whole sensor if it corrodes the golden wires. Some people offer to replace the cover glass over it for cheaper than the price mentioned in the video, but I'm not really sure if it's reliable or not.
You should have mentioned the small buffer. You can only shoot about 4 frames before the camera has to stop taking pictures in order to write the files. Not an issue if you're using it as a film camera, as you suggest in the video. But if you came up in the digital age, it will be a real problem that you can't shoot more than a handful of shots before the camera stops operating for a second or two.
Hey coops, great video. Loved the shots around freo, it's my go to spot to scratch the itch and get a good coffee also. I was lucky enough to pick up a nikon df for cheap a few years ago so thats my choice for full frame low megapixel filmic results. I also shoot some film, not just for the "look" of film, but to use the cameras themselves. Hope i see you out and about one day, I'd love to buy you a coffee and have a chat.
Another DF user here. It's a brilliant camera even though I paid good money for a clean copy with a low shutter count; there's no other camera quite like it.
Guys, CCD sensors won't do any magic to your images. It's the color algorithms in your cameras that make the difference, not the CCD or CMOS sensor. If you want to compare the two, you have to do it in the same brand and same time period. Another guy here did it, two similar Olympus cameras produced pretty much the same result and they had different sensor technology. It's all in the color profile
I agree, also if you shoot raw it's irrelevant, I had an M9 and there's nothing "special" about the sensor or files, seems everyone has jumped on the bandwagon of one person saying it once, to top it off the screen is dogshite, worst of any digital camera i've used and it freezes up constantly if you take more than 3 shots in a row
Nice video Coops! The M9 is a great for all the reasons you pointed out, and 18MP, if you know what you are doing is more than plenty. I used to get great shots out of my Nikon D70 at 6MP. I have an M11 and the 60MP resolution is astounding but overkill for most situations.
How’s the battery life, Coop? I got an M262 for the bigger battery and love it. It’s truly replaced film shooting for me. Though my grail camera is an M-E (Typ 220), a special M9 variant.
The ok, but depends on the condition of the battery, the two I had held charge pretty good, full day of shooting was fine. But those bigger M240/262 batteries are far better
I have the M Monochrom with a Leica replaced sensor and I love it. I agree it is not a film replacement, but it does save a bit of money with film stock and developing. My color work is with my M11. I do have the M5 for my true film shooting. Great video and great shots.
I agree, no digital camera is going to replicate the tangible aspects of film. I've never really bought into the CCD mystique, though your Frontier and Noritsu comments made me think about the fact that my own OpticFilm 120 has a CCD sensor too. Interesting thoughts, though the cost of an M9 makes still makes my own Kodachrome Lightroom preset a more compelling option for me. Thanks for the video.
@@jwanger142 My Nikon D70 had a CCD sensor that I used for years. I've also got Olympus and Nikon Digicams that I've reviewed on my own channel that have CCD too. All good cameras in their own way and in there day, though perhaps if I have one camera that has some sensor magic it would be my D700. Though that's actually a CMOS so go figure! What I was responding to was the comment that the 'filmic' look actually comes from the Noritsu/Frontier CCD scans of film, which is an interesting and unusual take on the CCD debate.
@@patternsinsand I’ve had my M9 with a cheaper end Voigtlander 40 Nokton for a month now and I’ve really been loving the look I’m getting out of the combo for both color and B+W. It may not be due to CCD but its my first go at one and I really do enjoy it. I shot Canon/Sony/Fuji prior to the Leica QP and now M9, maybe I’m just in the honeymoon phase of a new toy tho.
yeah man we M9 shooters never complain, we also did not complain that we can no longer buy batteries ( M9 was such a great success that after 40 years of shooting M I never bought another Leica and simply switched to A9 cameras - to continue the legacy :)
Love the m9, still Leicas best digital from my pov. But the only one that I feel can replace film is the M9 monochrom, the B&W results are just beautiful.
It is my bridge between digital and film. I don’t have to fuck around with lightroom. Really handy for travel when you are going somewhere you know they airport nuke your film. I’d love to try the monochrom version.
The rich color of your images is so familiar to me because I have long kept my M9 despite owning other more modern digital cameras. I don’t spend much time on post processing, so all those pre-sets mean little to me.
Had them, used them and passed them on. after 22 years of shooting digital and over 50 years of film photograohy, I can tell you in all honesty that there is no ' magic ' in CCD. You can easily make an M240 or M10 look like an M9, but you will never be able to make an M9 replicate what an M10 does. No CCD will ever be able to reproduce a film look. You want film, then shoot film. M9 was a decent camera in its time, let it rest in peace. Enjoy your M9.
Each to their own. I have both an m10p and M9 and the colours esp reds and yellows out of the m9 snoke the m10. I prefer film by a long shot, but this is close for when i can’t use film, without a lot off lightroom faffing.
+1 to CCD not emulating film. It doesn't, at all, and never has. I don't understand where that comes from. A film scanner using a CCD sensor doesn't actually create the film look as implied in this video; the film creates the film look lol. For film look, shoot film. For something else which is also beautiful and worthwhile, shoot a good digital camera. They aren't meant to be similar.
@@SourPlanet I think, folks mistake the more saturated and higher contrast files produced by a camera using a CCD as being film like. Which film I wouldn't know, TBH. They talk about Kodachrome, while I bet that 95% of all those going on about it have never seen a Kodachrome slide. In any case anyone could make a CMOS file look like a CCD in post. That M8 & M9 not having an AA filter helps with apparent sharpness ( this is a good thing IMHO ) not withsatnding. If you asked me whether I'd pay £2000.00+ for an M9, the answer is no. These have had their time, and I am sure they are still doing good work in the hands of a lot of competent photographer, but to make them out to be some sort of forgotten magic camera is wrong.
That mustache gets girls pregnant just by them looking at it. M9 is a great camera make sure if you get one that the sensor is not corroded or has been updated.
If I wanted film-like digital files, I'd shoot a Sigma Foveon or Pentax KIII Monochrome. Film shooters are drawn to this because it's a Leica. Otherwise it would be just another bargain bin digital relic.
I dont agree, One of my other old favorites is the Nikon D200 with a 10mp apsc CCD sensor, thats no leica and I love the files off that. Also have a video on that camera
@@shootswithcoops Yep, I've got a CCD Sony A230, same sensor as the D200. It's classic digital. The Quattro H or any Monochrome sensors though - now that looks like film grain at high ISO. The also happen to be amazing for film digitization - perfect film grain. The Pentax K1 pixel shift is also amazing as a converter.
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Awesome video man! I have an M9 with a corroded sensor, but the corrosion is only visible at f8. Since I shoot mostly family stuff and open the apature at f4 or wider, the corrosion is fortunately not visible.
And I got it for around 1000$ - therefore I can live with it.
Keep up the great work!
That’s a great deal for a M9, at least you know you can get it repaired if you want, and you will be still be infront
same here, bit of corrosion but the output is just worth it...
It will corrode more over time, and might potentially break the whole sensor if it corrodes the golden wires. Some people offer to replace the cover glass over it for cheaper than the price mentioned in the video, but I'm not really sure if it's reliable or not.
You should have mentioned the small buffer. You can only shoot about 4 frames before the camera has to stop taking pictures in order to write the files. Not an issue if you're using it as a film camera, as you suggest in the video. But if you came up in the digital age, it will be a real problem that you can't shoot more than a handful of shots before the camera stops operating for a second or two.
powerful moustache, coops!
Channeling magnum PI
great to see you back, dude. looking healthy!
Thanks mate
I still got my M8 i love it.
Love mine. Thanks for the review! 😀
Thanks for watching!
Hey coops, great video. Loved the shots around freo, it's my go to spot to scratch the itch and get a good coffee also. I was lucky enough to pick up a nikon df for cheap a few years ago so thats my choice for full frame low megapixel filmic results. I also shoot some film, not just for the "look" of film, but to use the cameras themselves. Hope i see you out and about one day, I'd love to buy you a coffee and have a chat.
Thanks mate, yeah I’ve always keep curious about the DF
Another DF user here. It's a brilliant camera even though I paid good money for a clean copy with a low shutter count; there's no other camera quite like it.
Guys, CCD sensors won't do any magic to your images. It's the color algorithms in your cameras that make the difference, not the CCD or CMOS sensor. If you want to compare the two, you have to do it in the same brand and same time period. Another guy here did it, two similar Olympus cameras produced pretty much the same result and they had different sensor technology. It's all in the color profile
I agree, also if you shoot raw it's irrelevant, I had an M9 and there's nothing "special" about the sensor or files, seems everyone has jumped on the bandwagon of one person saying it once, to top it off the screen is dogshite, worst of any digital camera i've used and it freezes up constantly if you take more than 3 shots in a row
I have 2 ... one normal and one Monochrome and I love them ....
Specially the Color One !
Great video ....
The monochrome is amazing, thanks for watching
Nice video Coops! The M9 is a great for all the reasons you pointed out, and 18MP, if you know what you are doing is more than plenty. I used to get great shots out of my Nikon D70 at 6MP. I have an M11 and the 60MP resolution is astounding but overkill for most situations.
Thanks for watching mate
How’s the battery life, Coop? I got an M262 for the bigger battery and love it. It’s truly replaced film shooting for me. Though my grail camera is an M-E (Typ 220), a special M9 variant.
The ok, but depends on the condition of the battery, the two I had held charge pretty good, full day of shooting was fine. But those bigger M240/262 batteries are far better
I have the M Monochrom with a Leica replaced sensor and I love it. I agree it is not a film replacement, but it does save a bit of money with film stock and developing.
My color work is with my M11. I do have the M5 for my true film shooting. Great video and great shots.
The M9M is one hell of a camera! Thanks for watching
I agree, no digital camera is going to replicate the tangible aspects of film. I've never really bought into the CCD mystique, though your Frontier and Noritsu comments made me think about the fact that my own OpticFilm 120 has a CCD sensor too. Interesting thoughts, though the cost of an M9 makes still makes my own Kodachrome Lightroom preset a more compelling option for me. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching
@patternsinsand what CCD sensor camera have you tried?
@@jwanger142 My Nikon D70 had a CCD sensor that I used for years. I've also got Olympus and Nikon Digicams that I've reviewed on my own channel that have CCD too. All good cameras in their own way and in there day, though perhaps if I have one camera that has some sensor magic it would be my D700. Though that's actually a CMOS so go figure! What I was responding to was the comment that the 'filmic' look actually comes from the Noritsu/Frontier CCD scans of film, which is an interesting and unusual take on the CCD debate.
@@patternsinsand I’ve had my M9 with a cheaper end Voigtlander 40 Nokton for a month now and I’ve really been loving the look I’m getting out of the combo for both color and B+W. It may not be due to CCD but its my first go at one and I really do enjoy it. I shot Canon/Sony/Fuji prior to the Leica QP and now M9, maybe I’m just in the honeymoon phase of a new toy tho.
I miss my M9 a lot but found that if I’m taking a Leica body out it’s my M7
Great camera choice
@@shootswithcoops thank you!
Things I'm always wondering is, in the viewfinders of leica M cameras, is there an exposure meter like in other cameras these days?
Led read out or the classic Leica arrows and red dot
The metering in Leica M are centre weighted, with indicators in the VF
yeah man we M9 shooters never complain, we also did not complain that we can no longer buy batteries ( M9 was such a great success that after 40 years of shooting M I never bought another Leica and simply switched to A9 cameras - to continue the legacy :)
I’m always confused when they say ccds take film like photos. I mean which film? Haha my guess is they’re quite close to slide film?
Love the m9, still Leicas best digital from my pov. But the only one that I feel can replace film is the M9 monochrom, the B&W results are just beautiful.
It is my bridge between digital and film. I don’t have to fuck around with lightroom. Really handy for travel when you are going somewhere you know they airport nuke your film. I’d love to try the monochrom version.
Great points. I’ve had the monochrome. It almost made me stop shooting black and white film, almost..
The rich color of your images is so familiar to me because I have long kept my M9 despite owning other more modern digital cameras. I don’t spend much time on post processing, so all those pre-sets mean little to me.
Good point, thanks for watching
Had them, used them and passed them on. after 22 years of shooting digital and over 50 years of film photograohy, I can tell you in all honesty that there is no ' magic ' in CCD. You can easily make an M240 or M10 look like an M9, but you will never be able to make an M9 replicate what an M10 does. No CCD will ever be able to reproduce a film look. You want film, then shoot film. M9 was a decent camera in its time, let it rest in peace. Enjoy your M9.
Each to their own. I have both an m10p and M9 and the colours esp reds and yellows out of the m9 snoke the m10. I prefer film by a long shot, but this is close for when i can’t use film, without a lot off lightroom faffing.
+1 to CCD not emulating film. It doesn't, at all, and never has. I don't understand where that comes from. A film scanner using a CCD sensor doesn't actually create the film look as implied in this video; the film creates the film look lol.
For film look, shoot film. For something else which is also beautiful and worthwhile, shoot a good digital camera. They aren't meant to be similar.
@@SourPlanet I think, folks mistake the more saturated and higher contrast files produced by a camera using a CCD as being film like. Which film I wouldn't know, TBH. They talk about Kodachrome, while I bet that 95% of all those going on about it have never seen a Kodachrome slide. In any case anyone could make a CMOS file look like a CCD in post. That M8 & M9 not having an AA filter helps with apparent sharpness ( this is a good thing IMHO ) not withsatnding. If you asked me whether I'd pay £2000.00+ for an M9, the answer is no. These have had their time, and I am sure they are still doing good work in the hands of a lot of competent photographer, but to make them out to be some sort of forgotten magic camera is wrong.
To each their own
There is no magic but there is an objective difference in color compared to cmos. He likes it so to each their own.
Seems like Tom Selleck has taken over the channel 🙂
I’ve tried to shave it, but Em won’t let me now, it’s a permanent fixture
@@shootswithcoops Can't be blamed
i have a Leica ME but want to buy a M9 as backup
Good idea
I have a mint M9-P with a toasted useless sensor..
I’d send it off to be fixed
but digital did replace film.
That mustache gets girls pregnant just by them looking at it. M9 is a great camera make sure if you get one that the sensor is not corroded or has been updated.
Hahaha thanks man
the epson r-d1 will get you half way there
I’ve seen those go for insane prices these days, the concept of that camera is great. Wish they had kept going
This camera is too old and pricey to repair. just buy the M240 or M10 much better camera with great sensor!
If I wanted film-like digital files, I'd shoot a Sigma Foveon or Pentax KIII Monochrome. Film shooters are drawn to this because it's a Leica. Otherwise it would be just another bargain bin digital relic.
I dont agree, One of my other old favorites is the Nikon D200 with a 10mp apsc CCD sensor, thats no leica and I love the files off that. Also have a video on that camera
@@shootswithcoops Yep, I've got a CCD Sony A230, same sensor as the D200. It's classic digital. The Quattro H or any Monochrome sensors though - now that looks like film grain at high ISO. The also happen to be amazing for film digitization - perfect film grain. The Pentax K1 pixel shift is also amazing as a converter.
@@shootswithcoops Reason I dust off the Fujifilm S2 pro as well from time to time.