That was heartfelt Pastor Berzins. I can tell that you are heartbroken that a friend you dearly loved turned on you like a rabid animal. It appears that the man loves no one, not even his poor kids. I can appreciate you having to make this terrible personal decision to part ways with him and his following. I do understand. God bless you and yours for standing for what is right and true.
Thanks for this. I am from FWBC. My son was saved and baptized by the church. My life was drastically changed by Anderson's bold preaching. I quit my job almost 10 years ago, after my husband and I had 2 more children. We decided I should school our then 10 year old and stay home with the littles. We read more, prayed more, "cleaned house" and tried hard to be better Christians. We had courage to get friends and family saved. We even lost very good friends; as people found out where we went to church. I try to submit to my husband and my Husband tries hard to be the leader (even though neither of us had these behaviors modeled by our own parent(s)). We learned a lot. But I cannot support Steven Anderson any longer. 4/4 adults have come forward: they aren't just some unruly kids. 2 of them are married, and one even has his own child. I have to respect these "kids" as men. I'd never want my man to hit me for sins I make. He isnt God, nor does he want to be. My heart aches for Zsu.... I've seen women bloodied. It's not for anyone. I wonder how much of her cruelty towards the children is a result of the beatings she receives first. The Man sets the tone for the home. Finally, the doxing was what broke me. Asking people to even go after his sister in law was so cruel... it Breaks my heart. But I must move where the Spirit leads me. God's answer sometimes is No. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” ~John Dalberg-Acton ❤❤❤
When you see Mr. Anderson's virulent hatred for the 7th day Sabbath, you can get a good idea of the man. Let's call on him to repent and turn from evil.
You're just a compromiser like this pastor! You'll get punished too, and of course, you're a woman to be in your feelings. Go join a Methodists church, you compromiser!
@@SonsOfThunder229 At best he’s quite spiritually immature to just now decide to break with Anderson’s personality cult. Anderson’s mode and method of leadership is exactly the same methodology that cult leaders use to control their followers. Mark it down. It will not end well for Anderson or his congregation of followers. It’s going to blow into a million pieces before it’s over and Anderson will never admit that he’s done anything wrong.
Heb:11:13: These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Steven Anderson abusing his family? Not at all. No way that guy didn’t do that. I’ve been waiting for years what his kids would say once they could. I’m glad some pastors are calling him out for it. Shame on the ones defending and excusing the abuse.
Pastor Steve believed that he was in the place of God. He ruled over and tortured his wife, his children. He has pushed God aside for himself and taught that God will help others in their sins, but his fruits in his private life was destroying his children and in turn his wife, who then took it out on the babies and the children. Whatever is perceived of his works they did not come from a heart of goodness but from him exalting himself. Did Steve ever ask for forgiveness from his children or his wife, if he did not he was trying by the flesh to gain the appearance of godliness, without having the Holy Spirit to guide. We cannot do it by ourselves that’s why we have our Savior, Steve rebelled against the Holy Spirit, the spirit that changes us to have God’s character. If we can not be humbled we are left to our sinful selves, and we destroy ourselves. He and his wife and his remaining children need help, this is a dangerous situation for all of them. He who is capable of such violence against those he professes to love and protect is like a loaded pistol.
This is what happens when you are involved in a personality cult. In this guy’s statement he’s far more concerned about Anderson’s feelings than the damage he’s done to others close to him. The warning signs have been clearly evident for years but because of the personality involved people tend to look the other way and just chalk it up to baseless accusations. The whole INDEPENDENT BAPTIST MOVEMENT has had a history of personality worship that is disturbing. Pedos, wife abusers, and adulterers have been given a free pass because of their personality and pecking order in the movement. Anyone who has tried to deal with it immediately gets the “touch not my anointed, neither do my prophets no harm “ speech.
Pastor, thank you for pointing out that this is "no small issue". At issue is the physical safety of very young children this very moment! As I said commenting on this matter elsewhere, the kind of abuse described is the kind of abuse that leads to the death of children every day in the United States. In many cases where a child dies, the friends and neighbors lament, wishing they had done something, as they place candles, crosses and stuffed animals on the dead child's lawn. I don't ever want to wake up and read that there are candles, crosses and stuffed animals on the lawn of the Anderson home because a child has been killed. Beyond the impact on the church and whether to support or disassociate, is the issue of what people are called to do to ensure the safety of eight children in the home, two under the age of five (and thus more likely to die from child abuse.) What action can be taken by those close to the situation to protect the children? As a church leader, I am sure you have some ideas.
Great sermon Pastor. May God bless you for standing for good and exposing the evil. I know and understand the shock of being betrayed by someone you love and trusted.
There is no ministry so important, no messenger so vital that abuse should be tolerated. May ministries crumble, preachers wither, and churches dissolve if it means no further victims are produced. Messiah said it best when he spoke of the judgment of one who hurts a child. If Pastor Anderson was truly wise and godly he would procure the millstone and do the deed himself and rid us all of the shame he has brought upon the Messiah's name.
It is shocking and very disturbing to me that the speaker here, a multitude of times, referred to the person in question as Pastor. The actions of Anderson are not in compliance with the Biblical requirements for that position and thus he has disqualified himself from that office.
Glad you finally grew a pair and separated from the monster Anderson. So glad to finally see a man who will no longer continue to cover for the sin of another men. Bravo! 👏
He's just a compromiser and as for people like you, you already hated this man, and his associates so stop the bs! You worms are a dime a dozen nowadays! Congratulations!
Authority is in Scripture, not a man. No man can take credit for what happens as a result of speaking Scripture. God's word is more powerful, and sharper, than a sword.
This reminds me so much of Jim Jones. He, too, started out noble, earnest and genuine. But as time went on he got weirder and weirder, and when word leaked out about what was really going on with him, he, too, gaslit everyone and fought the "rumors" with outlandish attacks on his detractors---to the point where even his most loyal followers---like this fellow--couldn't stomach it anymore and had to speak out! No kool-aid for him
This guy knew that this shyt was going on, but he chose not to say anything until the news was released, beyond anyone's ability to hide these horrible actions... So tired of the B.S. coming from these hypocrites.
This pastor seems very sincere. Seems like this was really hard for him to do. What surprises me is that he’s never seen or heard Anderson act like this before. He already had a reputation for being arrogant, angry and he’s the only one that’s right. I’ve never heard a pastor use the language that Anderson does. Doesn’t seem new for him. Seems pretty regular
Any movement based on a personality cult will not stand... Used to follow the NIFB mostly for Anderson's preaching for years... Let's move on and mature in Christ.
God bless you pastor for speaking the truth, i have been greatly impacted by the teachings of pastor Anderson, since 2013 so i feel very hurt for this (a fraction of the level that you have) but you made the right decision. God Bless you. and God bless the whole Anderson family, and faithful word church.
Anderson and his faithful word baptist church cult thugs were violent in Botswana when they dragged an old man out of their illegal church. Anderson has an uncontrollable temper and propensity towards violence as a means of solving problems. As a result Anderson and his group of missionary thugs were quickly deported from Botswana.
Wow, so much respect for you Pastor Berzins!! This was really spot on with my feelings, which are really nothing but my feelings. However, it speaks volumes because you are/were actually his good friend and if he’s calling you, his friend, and your wife a liar, who know are actually telling the truth then PSA is most likely not being truthful from the pulpit. I legitimately lost all respect when he disparaged Pastor Pzornsky…super uncalled for and immature. I’m sure putting this out must not have been easy for you. I thank you for being obedient to the Lord. Blessings to you…
Thank you Pastor. I live in Australia. Finally someone who talks and walks the truth. Where are the others? The devil has always been in him but hid it very well.
Anderson and his faithful word baptist church cult thugs were violent in Botswana when they dragged an old man out of their illegal church. Anderson has an uncontrollable temper and propensity towards violence as a means of solving problems. As a result Anderson and his group of missionary thugs were quickly deported from Botswana.
The congregation of this guys church needs to thank God that they have (maybe one of the only real Christ followers/ preachers )leading their church. The truth comes out and this man of God will attacked. Run to care for him bothers and sisters. He’s the real deal. God bless him now
PSA is probably generous with time and money due to no real friends per Isaac and Miriam, hating his wife (per Isaac, Miriam, and John- I didn't watch Solomon), and wanting to promote himself and get his name and image out there. The obsession with soul winning I suspect is to make up for the horrific atrocities at the hands of his wife and he at home. It is the ultimate way to spend time outside the home. One cannot argue with it. My husband is a huge NIFB fan and unfortunately an Andersonite. When I first saw and heard a lot of the spin on doctrine and ridiculous unhinged anger, I said "I bet he beats his wife and kids." This was two years ago. I'd be shocked if this pastor wasn't the subject of Wednesday night's upcoming sermon...PSA only cares for salvation spreading and to glorify his own name and brand. He uses the Bible to justify horrible actions. Remember- via proof texting, one can make a sermon about their opinion and wrap it in Scripture. Always use the basket analogy- you can literally make a sermon on why baskets are bad, if you search for the word basket. God gave us discernment also and this whole saga is disgusting, horrific, sad, makes all of us believers look bad, and extremely troubling that eight minors are still in the home. Put your loyalty for the man aside and see the objective facts. I don't care if PSA won every Nobel prize, cured cancer, etc. He is a criminal in the eyes of the law and is the definition of the leader of a high control group. Look into Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE method...
I understand what you're saying, but think about the logic for a minute. You're actually rejecting what a real Christian would join you in rejecting! You're not actually rejecting Christianity , but you're rejecting fake christianity because Anderson has never shown any sign of being a real Christian! He's an impostor. False religion is dangerous.
What you experienced from him was exactly what narcissists do when you do something they even slightly disagree with, they spaz out in such an over the top manner that you think twice before doing it again, its how they control people, and they get a kick off of people kowtowing to them.
Good for you Pastor. I bet God is proud of you for standing up. In my exp it is Very uncommon for kids to lie about abuse. They aren’t the first IFB grown kids to say this. I just thought that’s the way that sect is. I suffer childhood trauma bc of the way they “taught”. I believed I was going to H%ll since 11. I cried all the time. I was never taught about God’s love. But God held onto me thru rebellious behavior until my 30’s I saw signs about Bible study & I Know God meant for me to see. Today I know a God of love. Didn’t mean for that to be so long. I wanted to ask about “tranny” comment. Pastor says he/she hates God. I find the whole thing weird but do they all Hate God? I’m not close to any to ask about it but I do know gay men & women. (I know it’s not the same but y’all think so.) Some I know are some of the kindest ppl I’ve met. And they Do sincerely believe in God. We can’t say it’s bc of how they live. We all do sinful things. In God’s eyes isn’t sin a sin? There’s not really bad sin & not too bad sin. I don’t think God is fine w praying they all die or embarrass & throw them out of church. Churches don’t love the sin but love the sinner. Long again. I just wonder about the comment they hate God? Thx!
1. Congrats on your wise choice to separate. 2. After listening to various Andersons sermons over the years as an observer it would’ve shocked me more if he was gentle, patient, self-controlled at home (instead, I very much expected him to be a narcissistic tyrant at home just like he is at church.) And note: narcissistic tyrants can be very kind when everything goes perfectly their way.
As a wife of a narcissist, who is sure a Believer in Christ (he claims to)... I know exactly what is going on here... I am not physically tortured, but I am emotionally tortured by the abuse... Pastors rarely believe something like that, which means that as a victim you are also exposed to ridicule, being called a rebel, a disobedient woman - who is responsible for this treatment herself and even deserves it... one thing is also proven, we are not saved by our works... nor damned, because we believers belong to Jesus - he has accomplished everything for us... if Steven has accepted that, he is real... he only loses his crowns at the BEMA seat of Christ... for hitting and missusing his wife and his children, but I'm so glad Anderson is finally being exposed... Ephesians 5:11 and do not engage in any activity that comes from darkness and does not produce good fruit. Rather, expose such activity! he certainly needs prayer... just like any other Person who do not walk in the councils and ways of God
@@jasonbourne5142 Of course that was my suspicion too since I first heard about Anderson... but I would never allow myself to judge... God alone sees our hearts/Anderson's heart too... and as a wife of a narcissist I feel somehow thrown to Satan like prey (but my husband believes in Jesus) which is weird because at the same time he is a block of ice emotionally. Would you dare say he is not saved? ... What else does it take? How can we prove it? By our fruits? Yes... we produce good fruits with the help of the holy ghost... but - some people around narcissists will never reap those fruits of the holy ghost (weird hm?)... I have no idea why... he sure produces some good fruits, but only rare people will find them, that's why Jesus said...the love will GROW COLD in many ... there we go!
@@seekerofconsistency god says that a christian will not keep sinning, with no repentance or conviction of that sin. i personally don't think it is possible for sociopathic/antipersonality disorder to be a christian. the bible does mention there are people the holy spirit does not continue to convict of sin...essentially gives up on them.
Ok, it's time to talk about the "elephant in the room" or in this instance, the pulpit in front of the pastor. Is that some sort of custom made piece designed with ergonomics in mind or one craftsman's artistic sense in attempting to marry a good bit of antiquity with a funhouse flavor of Art Nuovo or even contemporary? Maybe the unevenness is just an optical illusion (doubtful.) One thing's for certain though, it is most definitely a distraction!
This guy was a close family friend? Anderson lead his wife to Christ? He was a member of Andersons church even at his house? Ordained and trained by Anderson over a 20 year period , he’s only now questioning Anderson as a parent? That’s total incompetence! This guy is untrustworthy period.
People living double lives always seem to mix their very bad behaviors with charming and "good" behaviors. There is a verse about fountains pouring both sweet and bitter waters. James 3:11 This pastor is very brave but doing the right thing to understand that the man he thought he knew was not who the man actually was and is. The Lord is at work.
Anderson doesn't display ONE fruit of the Spirit but a lot of Apostates appear to have great works and fruit from those works but that doesn't mean they're Godly Anderson is a bad tree
He is one of those chosen man of God like the apostle Paul.and Paul was beheaded brutally what do u think a fate lay for him.This andersonite label is Crap its just belivers of christ supporting our brothers and sisters in times of crisis
Yup, just like every single major religion and all the followers. Cancer. Humanity's cancer, for thousands of years. Good hearted people will often have their goodness increased through their faith, just as malignant and cruel people will have those traits enhanced by it. But while there are plenty of examples of good, decent people who practise Christianity and every other faith, that does not change the fact that the beliefs themselves are literal poison to our world, and it's due to the existence of these religions that situations like this with Anderson grow into the disaster that they do. Look at how faith was used for the aims of 1930 and 1940 Germany, or the Inquisitions, or the Crusades, or the Afgan Taliban, or Israeli government, or the persecutions of science and tech over the centuries, the persecutions of grouos that are different, the justification for owning people in America's first 100 years.... ALL justified with religion. If we grew up, matured, and let every single one of them go into the mythology and historical fiction sections of the libraries, and focused on reason, common sense, and objective science to understand and move forward as a whole, then my god the advances we'd make as humanity. It's ALL a "bad tree", mistiroberts....
Any n IFB pastor that stands and defense of pastor Anderson's actions and is not calling him out.On this situation.I will no longer listen to. It shows the condition of their heart. God bless
So much evidence here , but the one that really convinced me as a father myself to a daughter was the callous way he treated her. Daughters should have a special relationship with their pa. It saddens me that Steven doesn’t have this natural affection
Idk, I’m sorry. I didn’t even know who Steve Anderson was until seeing all of adult children’s testimonies on his abuse. Watching some of his sermons, I was not a once surprised at the man he is. Anyone who can sit through a sermon that so vehemently abuses the word is not excusable to me. Even if now you’re saying “oh we’re separating from him.”
Mat. 12:24-26---24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. 25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
As an Independent Baptist, (who does have association with some IFB churches) I applaud members of the NIFB who have been willing to separate themselves from Anderson. In fact it's a sad indictment on IFB when NIFB are willing to essentially denounce their founder over unbiblical practices while many IFB leaders covered for their buddies.
I don't hear discernment here. This guy bows to man. He is here now making excuses for his actions. Why is he saying some things seemed not right, but he lets it go? Maybe it did seem right, but he is not going down with the Anderson ship so decides, quite late in the conversation, that he denounces Anderson.
Now that you're free of the tyrant, you can go back to preaching on the deity of Christ like you used to before he pressured you to change your doctrine.
how could his abuse and behaviors not be obvious the second he opens his mouth to preach? He was full of hatred. All of you are complicit by participating in this hateful branch of an otherwise peaceful religion.
Where is love in the family of Steven Anderson, God is Love. Correction is necessary, with Love. The supposed correction done with malice, anger, hatred, and a desire to transfer and inflict pain, is just not correct, it doesn’t display Love. Where is the saving for eternity in this, the hatred can send the family into despair, and being lost. The children are just as damaged as any who have been through a war, because this is PTSD. People are saved individually through a relationship with Jesus Christ, who is the Savior not pastors.
If this is the most difficult within your ministry, I would think you haven't been in the ministry long. The drama of Anderson had to expose itself someday and now is the day. One could easily see this was going to manifest itself.
Well this seems to be what a believer should be doing. They should cease from strife in it's every form for the LOVE of God contains them. All are to put off anger, wrath, and malice and filthy communication out of their mouths.....and all are to speak only words which edify build up and encourage. They should reject bitterness from their lives and have soft answers that will turn away wrath. One is not to create wrath but rather defuse it! We're to endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace . One is not to embrace ill will, strife and offence and one is to be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to wrath for the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God. If one wants forgiveness they better be in the mode where they forgive others and not bear grudges and make sure they're walking in longsuffering and showing forbearance and making doubly sure they don't have a short fuse. Short fuse people open their minds to fall into a dark confusion so we plead and appeal to one and all to allow God's LIGHT and LOVE to establish one once again in a good peaceful place.
Little wonder Martin Luther throughout the entirety of his life referred to these people, e.g. the Baptists, as the fanatics. The Logos, who is Christ and God, has little place among them as is evidenced by their spiritual progenitor Bokelzoon and the Muensterites. Too many Christians stop with the definition of Logos as Word, which, in fact it does mean. However, in the Liddell-Scott lexicon there's numerous pages devoted to fleshing out the meaning of this word: rational thought, reason, logic, speech, rational discourse--all of which is noticeably absent in Anderson and his behavior, taking a fold electric cord to whip his children defies any sense of Logos-inspired rationality. Sorry, I have very little sympathy for his wife too--she's as much of a fanatic as he is.
Seeing some of your past videos, I think you're probably just as theologically goofy as Anderson (calling the apparent age theory "heresy"), but I appreciate you posting this.
God bless you for following the conviction to distance yourself from Anderson and for speaking out about his unbiblical behavior. Based on the hate in his online sermons and threats toward the gay community he has given Christians a very bad name for years now. That is not what we are to do. Christ said the greatest witness is our love for others. Anderson doesn’t know how to separate a person’s actions from their worth. Biblically, we separate the sin from the sinner. It was a given that this capacity for anger would go on at home and with anyone who disagreed with him. Personally I suspect that has was se--lly abused as a child and never received justice or healing for that. There is a hurt there that makes him vehemently lash out at gays over all other sinners. There is no hierarchy of sin biblically. Anderson needs healing and love but he needs to repent first. And he needs to step down from the pulpit.
@@splendidwittyman2611 you can think what you want friend. You don't even know what I'm talking about and you're accusing me of being poisoned with lies and you have no idea where I stand. That just shows you how ignorant and foolish you are.. accusing me before you even know what does the Bible say about that?? That's the problem with Anderson's followers.. they're caustic, toxic.. and they bring a bunch of strife to the body of Christ. Most of you guys have a bad spirit and you've been sticking up for your cult leader for far too long when other people have been telling you what's wrong with him.. open your eyes.
What is going on? Is it because of family problems? Or is it within the Church? The family matters are private and should not be exploited in the public eye because its NOT our business. But in the Ministry of the Church that will matter there being in the public. Otherwise its best for me to stay in the Foursquare church where we invite the Holy Spirit to control our conduct and actions along with the Word of God.
If I was in Pastor Berzins shoes, I would definitely consider getting his congregation to ordain him since Anderson has never even been ordained himself. He claims pastor Nichols ordained him in his office but come on, Baptist do public ordinations. Praying that God would use someone is not ordination. I doubt seriously that pastor Berzins would do that though because I am sure he doesn’t want to burn a bridge with the pope.
Pastor David sorry for being harsh with you. Friendship is loyal, but with all seriousness you will be feel Free being tied to a man. Most churches try to preach Christ not Steve Anderson. I encourage you to do so look to Christ not Roger Jimenez or Jared Porsarskzy or Jonathan Shelly all of you preach Christ God Will judge those who don't follow your preaching. 10:50
Unfortunately, Pastor Burson, you have overlooked the fact that Steven Anderson has nearly gotten people on live with his rhetoric. Indirectly, his emotional violence targets a vulnerable member of my family and that of many and you excuse it. Why would you be friends such a creature like that is beyond me, sir. I think you need to do a lot of introspection, and stop hanging on your faith if it’s a shield to protect you from everything. It’s a beautiful thing to open your heart to God it’s entirely different thing to use to protect the most egregious among us.
for whom the lord loveth he chasteneth. don't want to judge, but i always thought based on the pauline epistles, that god will judge a christian for slipping up more harshly than a non christian...lower expectations. in other words, i feel anderson has pyschopathic tendencies, and i wonder if it is even possible for him to repent of his sin in the first place? god does say that some people are so hardened that the holy spirit will not convict them, anymore? in that case, i question his salvation.
Proverb:22:11: He that loveth pureness of heart, for the grace of his lips the king shall be his friend. Re:19:16: And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
You do have a reason to question everything that he says. He knows the bible and he knows what he was doing to his wife was wrong yet he remained behind the pulpit knowing he was disqualified. And if he believes that he can act in such a manner and considers to be biblical than consider that he is unsaved.
The WHOLE CHURCH is "separating" from Anderson? Isn't that the same as firing him? I seriously doubt if Anderson still considers this man his "friend." After listening to Anderson's wife who reminds me of a concentration camp matron, I wonder if she was always like that before she met him. Why did this take so long?
Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Faith is the evidence of things unseen and the substance of things hoped for.
He was great, he got lots of people saved and no one can take that credit from him, God used him greately. I condemn his behaviour,how he abused his wife and children, he went too far even beating wife. He must take a responsibility for it
People are complicated. You want this to be a black and white issue, when there's a lot of gray area. People can do great things for God and still have a lot of sin to answer for. Look at David with Bathsheba and Uriah. That's a pretty damning story for David and yet he's considered a man after God's own heart. Did Pastor Anderson get anyone killed like David? I'm not excusing his behavior, but rushing blindly to Pastor Anderson's defense is just as bad as condemning him as purely evil and a fake. I respect Pastor Berzins here for taking a calm, level-headed and balanced approach to the issue.
So interesting that pastors accept the hateful sermins and loud screaming at the pulpit. Putting aside the home abuse. I could never ever be a friend to steve andrrson nor a member of his church. Hes deplorable. I do not believe according the Gods word that he is saved and born again from above. I cant even listen to this pastor that says that he didnt know.
Before all this can happen I had a dream about him being betrayed someone very close to him... I don't know how true are the allegations levellled against him. But all I know is that I had a dream about this.
I want y'all to listen to all the compliments.He's giving mister anderson. generous with his possessions generous with his time led us all to christ. this is how good an abusive, horrible wicked man can look on the outside. do not give credit to outward behavior.
@@Proverbs1130 Another lie that IFB pushes is that there are no good churches outside of IFB. There are Bible believing truth teaching churches all over the world. Christ’s body of believers is alive and well and following Him through his Word and in fellowship with other believers. 🙏❣️
Steven and Zsussa Anderson are not real Christians. Real Christians repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Real Christians know that repentance is not works based. Real Christians love God,themselves and others each day b/c God's that's fulfilling God's purposes for our lives.
Heidi, it is absolutely works to Repent of your sins, ie. turning from your evil ways. The Bible says so. Jonah 3:10 "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." Also, repent just means to turn, to turn from something. You can plan to go to the store and then repent and stay home. Notice how God repented of the evil (harm) He was going to do. Has God ever sinned? Does he need to turn from His sins? Of course not. God turned from the harm he was going to do to the people of Nineveh. Repent simply means to "turn". So saying repent or repentance without a context is meaningless. So many people have been misled, when they hear "repent" they think it means "repent of sin". Repent can be applied to so many things. In the Bible when you read repent it never once refers to repenting of your sins. Often it is used to show you need to turn from false gods, unbelief, whatever you are trusting in and to turn to Jesus, to trust in him for your salvation.
Thanks for asking this. I missed Anderson’s point as well. He keeps banging about his children have to follow authority in their life. But these are not kids any longer. Grown up men, who are authority themselves. Also just a reminder of the sequence of the events. These guys reacting on what they perceive as a threat. It’s a REACTION. Anderson went for Miriam, she felt threat to her life, they all stood up to protect her.
What must I do to be saved? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 KJV How do I become born of water and of the Spirit? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 KJV
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Pastor I’m so very proud of you. I’m grateful that you are humble and scripturally sound enough to do what no one seems to be able to do
@@mamacita2428 only when he has no other choice
That was heartfelt Pastor Berzins. I can tell that you are heartbroken that a friend you dearly loved turned on you like a rabid animal. It appears that the man loves no one, not even his poor kids. I can appreciate you having to make this terrible personal decision to part ways with him and his following. I do understand. God bless you and yours for standing for what is right and true.
When you see Mr. Anderson's hatred for God's 4th commandment, you can get a good idea of what kind of man he is. Let's call on him to repent.
Yeah so heartfelt he had to go into private details
@@earlysdago worship that witch 🧙♀️ Ellen White
Honestly I don't know how anyone is surprised about what happened.
Thanks for this. I am from FWBC. My son was saved and baptized by the church. My life was drastically changed by Anderson's bold preaching. I quit my job almost 10 years ago, after my husband and I had 2 more children. We decided I should school our then 10 year old and stay home with the littles. We read more, prayed more, "cleaned house" and tried hard to be better Christians. We had courage to get friends and family saved. We even lost very good friends; as people found out where we went to church. I try to submit to my husband and my Husband tries hard to be the leader (even though neither of us had these behaviors modeled by our own parent(s)). We learned a lot.
But I cannot support Steven Anderson any longer. 4/4 adults have come forward: they aren't just some unruly kids. 2 of them are married, and one even has his own child. I have to respect these "kids" as men. I'd never want my man to hit me for sins I make. He isnt God, nor does he want to be. My heart aches for Zsu.... I've seen women bloodied. It's not for anyone. I wonder how much of her cruelty towards the children is a result of the beatings she receives first. The Man sets the tone for the home.
Finally, the doxing was what broke me. Asking people to even go after his sister in law was so cruel... it Breaks my heart. But I must move where the Spirit leads me. God's answer sometimes is No.
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” ~John Dalberg-Acton
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The kids have issues, but he did not raise them to be idiots, according to his own testimony. And theirs:)
When you see Mr. Anderson's virulent hatred for the 7th day Sabbath, you can get a good idea of the man. Let's call on him to repent and turn from evil.
Which sermon is this? Thanks
Just take it for what it is. Thank God for it, and move on. Do better and greater things for God. Use it as a lesson.
You're just a compromiser like this pastor! You'll get punished too, and of course, you're a woman to be in your feelings. Go join a Methodists church, you compromiser!
This is probably one of the most unexpected plot twists in the history of the NIFB
I said to myself at the beginning this is Daves chance to leave. Hes a good guy, and not a lunatic anderson slave.
@@SonsOfThunder229 At best he’s quite spiritually immature to just now decide to break with Anderson’s personality cult. Anderson’s mode and method of leadership is exactly the same methodology that cult leaders use to control their followers. Mark it down. It will not end well for Anderson or his congregation of followers. It’s going to blow into a million pieces before it’s over and Anderson will never admit that he’s done anything wrong.
Heb:11:13: These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Steven Anderson abusing his family? Not at all. No way that guy didn’t do that. I’ve been waiting for years what his kids would say once they could. I’m glad some pastors are calling him out for it. Shame on the ones defending and excusing the abuse.
Pastor Steve believed that he was in the place of God. He ruled over and tortured his wife, his children. He has pushed God aside for himself and taught that God will help others in their sins, but his fruits in his private life was destroying his children and in turn his wife, who then took it out on the babies and the children. Whatever is perceived of his works they did not come from a heart of goodness but from him exalting himself. Did Steve ever ask for forgiveness from his children or his wife, if he did not he was trying by the flesh to gain the appearance of godliness, without having the Holy Spirit to guide. We cannot do it by ourselves
that’s why we have our Savior, Steve rebelled against the Holy Spirit, the spirit that changes us to have God’s character. If we can not be humbled we are left to our sinful selves, and we destroy ourselves. He and his wife and his remaining children need help, this is a dangerous situation for all of them. He who is capable of such violence against those he professes to love and protect is like a loaded pistol.
You response and comments were about the most level headed and reasonable I have heard regarding the Steven Anderson mess. Thank you
People seriously act as if Steven Anderson is some kind of Pope of the NIFB(smh).
While surely not a pope, he was / is the most famous pastor in the group. Whatever the reasons are.... he's had the farthest reach.
@@jhildebrand7447
The loudest pastor, the one with the biggest mouth, the drama queen...
Yes they do
@@jhildebrand7447 give Paul W credit for this
@@Truth72500 I hope Paul is well wherever he may be
Thank you for coming forward and not denying the truth over fear of retribution from the cult of the andersonites. Only fear God.
This is what happens when you are involved in a personality cult. In this guy’s statement he’s far more concerned about Anderson’s feelings than the damage he’s done to others close to him. The warning signs have been clearly evident for years but because of the personality involved people tend to look the other way and just chalk it up to baseless accusations. The whole INDEPENDENT BAPTIST MOVEMENT has had a history of personality worship that is disturbing. Pedos, wife abusers, and adulterers have been given a free pass because of their personality and pecking order in the movement. Anyone who has tried to deal with it immediately gets the “touch not my anointed, neither do my prophets no harm “ speech.
The entire protestant movement is a cult of personality.
unfortunately, this is spot on.
@@sacredgriftscatholicism is an outright cult through and through
You're close friends with someone for 18 years and you didn't notice he was strange until you saw a RUclips video? Discernment.
There is definitely a lack of discernment in that community.
Not so.
Pastor, thank you for pointing out that this is "no small issue". At issue is the physical safety of very young children this very moment! As I said commenting on this matter elsewhere, the kind of abuse described is the kind of abuse that leads to the death of children every day in the United States. In many cases where a child dies, the friends and neighbors lament, wishing they had done something, as they place candles, crosses and stuffed animals on the dead child's lawn. I don't ever want to wake up and read that there are candles, crosses and stuffed animals on the lawn of the Anderson home because a child has been killed. Beyond the impact on the church and whether to support or disassociate, is the issue of what people are called to do to ensure the safety of eight children in the home, two under the age of five (and thus more likely to die from child abuse.) What action can be taken by those close to the situation to protect the children? As a church leader, I am sure you have some ideas.
Great sermon Pastor. May God bless you for standing for good and exposing the evil. I know and understand the shock of being betrayed by someone you love and trusted.
This is NOT a sermon, not by any stretch!
Anderson is in meltdown mode. He’s cooked
Amen Sir...may the Lord give you more wisdom and lead you into all truth.
pretty hard to miss it when 3 kids have come out and told horror stories of the abuse by their parents. that's not wisdom, that's a slap in the face.
There is no ministry so important, no messenger so vital that abuse should be tolerated. May ministries crumble, preachers wither, and churches dissolve if it means no further victims are produced. Messiah said it best when he spoke of the judgment of one who hurts a child. If Pastor Anderson was truly wise and godly he would procure the millstone and do the deed himself and rid us all of the shame he has brought upon the Messiah's name.
It is shocking and very disturbing to me that the speaker here, a multitude of times, referred to the person in question as Pastor. The actions of Anderson are not in compliance with the Biblical requirements for that position and thus he has disqualified himself from that office.
Glad you finally grew a pair and separated from the monster Anderson. So glad to finally see a man who will no longer continue to cover for the sin of another men. Bravo! 👏
He's just a compromiser and as for people like you, you already hated this man, and his associates so stop the bs! You worms are a dime a dozen nowadays! Congratulations!
He was always this person….. just able to cover it in public and in his ministry.
Authority is in Scripture, not a man. No man can take credit for what happens as a result of speaking Scripture. God's word is more powerful, and sharper, than a sword.
This reminds me so much of Jim Jones. He, too, started out noble, earnest and genuine. But as time went on he got weirder and weirder, and when word leaked out about what was really going on with him, he, too, gaslit everyone and fought the "rumors" with outlandish attacks on his detractors---to the point where even his most loyal followers---like this fellow--couldn't stomach it anymore and had to speak out! No kool-aid for him
I noticed something very wrong when he said he enjoyed the power he had over people when someone asked what he liked about being a pastor
This guy knew that this shyt was going on, but he chose not to say anything until the news was released, beyond anyone's ability to hide these horrible actions... So tired of the B.S. coming from these hypocrites.
Well sometimes you have to wait for all facts before rushing to judgement..like most ppl do. Not like he waited months.
Nothing is going on except known pedo solomon defamed his father
This pastor seems very sincere. Seems like this was really hard for him to do. What surprises me is that he’s never seen or heard Anderson act like this before. He already had a reputation for being arrogant, angry and he’s the only one that’s right.
I’ve never heard a pastor use the language that Anderson does. Doesn’t seem new for him. Seems pretty regular
Sometimes it takes a lot for someone to notice what is obvious to everyone else.
You dont need THAT MANY ice cubes in your water bottle.
Homie has 1,000 ice cubes in his canteen.
Ice water is bad for you
Yes, that made things a little awkward or definitely added to it
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Any movement based on a personality cult will not stand... Used to follow the NIFB mostly for Anderson's preaching for years... Let's move on and mature in Christ.
What’s wrong with following a bold man of God?
The “movement” you say is bold preaching. That’s what people like. Joel Osteen is based on personality
@Bear-9558 that "movement" is a cult that scratches your itching ears.
@@Bear-9558 The only question to be asked about this Anderson cat is if he is a psychopath, sociopath or narcissist.
@@OneTheBlue are you an online physiologist?
God bless you pastor for speaking the truth, i have been greatly impacted by the teachings of pastor Anderson, since 2013 so i feel very hurt for this (a fraction of the level that you have) but you made the right decision. God Bless you. and God bless the whole Anderson family, and faithful word church.
Anderson and his faithful word baptist church cult thugs were violent in Botswana when they dragged an old man out of their illegal church. Anderson has an uncontrollable temper and propensity towards violence as a means of solving problems. As a result Anderson and his group of missionary thugs were quickly deported from Botswana.
This took courage and conviction. We need more people to point out the ‘planks’ in our own eyes before pointing the finger of judgment at ANYONE ELSE.
Wow, so much respect for you Pastor Berzins!!
This was really spot on with my feelings, which are really nothing but my feelings. However, it speaks volumes because you are/were actually his good friend and if he’s calling you, his friend, and your wife a liar, who know are actually telling the truth then PSA is most likely not being truthful from the pulpit.
I legitimately lost all respect when he disparaged Pastor Pzornsky…super uncalled for and immature. I’m sure putting this out must not have been easy for you. I thank you for being obedient to the Lord. Blessings to you…
I’m a devout Methodist and think Steven Anderson is absolutely nuts, dangerous, and hateful.
You can hear how incredibly difficult this is for him; to turn and separate from one he considered a brother for so many years.
I wouldnt of ever saw this as i dont follow nfib pastors , thx for reuploading
Thank you Pastor. I live in Australia. Finally someone who talks and walks the truth. Where are the others? The devil has always been in him but hid it very well.
Anderson and his faithful word baptist church cult thugs were violent in Botswana when they dragged an old man out of their illegal church. Anderson has an uncontrollable temper and propensity towards violence as a means of solving problems. As a result Anderson and his group of missionary thugs were quickly deported from Botswana.
The congregation of this guys church needs to thank God that they have (maybe one of the only real Christ followers/ preachers )leading their church. The truth comes out and this man of God will attacked. Run to care for him bothers and sisters. He’s the real deal. God bless him now
PSA is probably generous with time and money due to no real friends per Isaac and Miriam, hating his wife (per Isaac, Miriam, and John- I didn't watch Solomon), and wanting to promote himself and get his name and image out there. The obsession with soul winning I suspect is to make up for the horrific atrocities at the hands of his wife and he at home. It is the ultimate way to spend time outside the home. One cannot argue with it.
My husband is a huge NIFB fan and unfortunately an Andersonite. When I first saw and heard a lot of the spin on doctrine and ridiculous unhinged anger, I said "I bet he beats his wife and kids." This was two years ago.
I'd be shocked if this pastor wasn't the subject of Wednesday night's upcoming sermon...PSA only cares for salvation spreading and to glorify his own name and brand. He uses the Bible to justify horrible actions. Remember- via proof texting, one can make a sermon about their opinion and wrap it in Scripture. Always use the basket analogy- you can literally make a sermon on why baskets are bad, if you search for the word basket.
God gave us discernment also and this whole saga is disgusting, horrific, sad, makes all of us believers look bad, and extremely troubling that eight minors are still in the home. Put your loyalty for the man aside and see the objective facts. I don't care if PSA won every Nobel prize, cured cancer, etc. He is a criminal in the eyes of the law and is the definition of the leader of a high control group.
Look into Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE method...
Just looked up BITE method, & wow. Definitely fits, unfortunately.
spot on
Hearing Anderson hold up Jack Hyles (of all people) as some kind of godly man was the last straw for me. 😢
Whose Jack Hyles?
Let's say we can't hold up King David as a godly man since he did horrible stuff such as murder and adultery. No man is above reproach.
What do you expect from a hate teacher
God bless you, Pastor David. Thank you for your courage...
Reading about this fiasco has been a nice reminder of why I'm an atheist. Religion is dangerous.
I understand what you're saying, but think about the logic for a minute. You're actually rejecting what a real Christian would join you in rejecting! You're not actually rejecting Christianity , but you're rejecting fake christianity because Anderson has never shown any sign of being a real Christian! He's an impostor. False religion is dangerous.
Religious leaders fail us. Anderson let his ego and his hatred guide his “doctrine”.
What you experienced from him was exactly what narcissists do when you do something they even slightly disagree with, they spaz out in such an over the top manner that you think twice before doing it again, its how they control people, and they get a kick off of people kowtowing to them.
Good for you Pastor. I bet God is proud of you for standing up. In my exp it is Very uncommon for kids to lie about abuse. They aren’t the first IFB grown kids to say this. I just thought that’s the way that sect is. I suffer childhood trauma bc of the way they “taught”. I believed I was going to H%ll since 11. I cried all the time. I was never taught about God’s love. But God held onto me thru rebellious behavior until my 30’s I saw signs about Bible study & I Know God meant for me to see. Today I know a God of love.
Didn’t mean for that to be so long. I wanted to ask about “tranny” comment. Pastor says he/she hates God. I find the whole thing weird but do they all Hate God? I’m not close to any to ask about it but I do know gay men & women. (I know it’s not the same but y’all think so.) Some I know are some of the kindest ppl I’ve met. And they Do sincerely believe in God. We can’t say it’s bc of how they live. We all do sinful things. In God’s eyes isn’t sin a sin? There’s not really bad sin & not too bad sin.
I don’t think God is fine w praying they all die or embarrass & throw them out of church. Churches don’t love the sin but love the sinner. Long again. I just wonder about the comment they hate God? Thx!
1. Congrats on your wise choice to separate.
2. After listening to various Andersons sermons over the years as an observer it would’ve shocked me more if he was gentle, patient, self-controlled at home (instead, I very much expected him to be a narcissistic tyrant at home just like he is at church.)
And note: narcissistic tyrants can be very kind when everything goes perfectly their way.
As a wife of a narcissist, who is sure a Believer in Christ (he claims to)... I know exactly what is going on here... I am not physically tortured, but I am emotionally tortured by the abuse... Pastors rarely believe something like that, which means that as a victim you are also exposed to ridicule, being called a rebel, a disobedient woman - who is responsible for this treatment herself and even deserves it...
one thing is also proven, we are not saved by our works... nor damned, because we believers belong to Jesus - he has accomplished everything for us... if Steven has accepted that, he is real... he only loses his crowns at the BEMA seat of Christ... for hitting and missusing his wife and his children, but I'm so glad Anderson is finally being exposed... Ephesians 5:11 and do not engage in any activity that comes from darkness and does not produce good fruit. Rather, expose such activity! he certainly needs prayer... just like any other Person who do not walk in the councils and ways of God
You're wrong. His abuse means he's not saved. Get your theology straight.
@@jasonbourne5142 Of course that was my suspicion too since I first heard about Anderson... but I would never allow myself to judge... God alone sees our hearts/Anderson's heart too... and as a wife of a narcissist I feel somehow thrown to Satan like prey (but my husband believes in Jesus) which is weird because at the same time he is a block of ice emotionally. Would you dare say he is not saved? ... What else does it take? How can we prove it? By our fruits? Yes... we produce good fruits with the help of the holy ghost... but - some people around narcissists will never reap those fruits of the holy ghost (weird hm?)... I have no idea why... he sure produces some good fruits, but only rare people will find them, that's why Jesus said...the love will GROW COLD in many ... there we go!
@@jasonbourne5142 an abusive person can be saved. See Galatians 5:19-21. Get your theology straight!
@@seekerofconsistency what is your problem ?
@@seekerofconsistency god says that a christian will not keep sinning, with no repentance or conviction of that sin. i personally don't think it is possible for sociopathic/antipersonality disorder to be a christian. the bible does mention there are people the holy spirit does not continue to convict of sin...essentially gives up on them.
Friends like Job
Ok, it's time to talk about the "elephant in the room" or in this instance, the pulpit in front of the pastor. Is that some sort of custom made piece designed with ergonomics in mind or one craftsman's artistic sense in attempting to marry a good bit of antiquity with a funhouse flavor of Art Nuovo or even contemporary? Maybe the unevenness is just an optical illusion (doubtful.) One thing's for certain though, it is most definitely a distraction!
This guy was a close family friend? Anderson
lead his wife to Christ? He was a member of Andersons church even at his house? Ordained and trained by Anderson over a 20 year period , he’s only now questioning Anderson as a parent?
That’s total incompetence! This guy is untrustworthy period.
I am sorry but when someone shows you who they are, believe them. This is exactly who he is. an abusive father and spouse.
People living double lives always seem to mix their very bad behaviors with charming and "good" behaviors. There is a verse about fountains pouring both sweet and bitter waters. James 3:11 This pastor is very brave but doing the right thing to understand that the man he thought he knew was not who the man actually was and is. The Lord is at work.
The person you've seen in the past few weeks is what many people have seen for more than a decade and more. At least you're finally .. .. anyway.
Anderson doesn't display ONE fruit of the Spirit but a lot of Apostates appear to have great works and fruit from those works but that doesn't mean they're Godly
Anderson is a bad tree
You mean hate is not a fruit of the Spirit?
He is one of those chosen man of God like the apostle Paul.and Paul was beheaded brutally what do u think a fate lay for him.This andersonite label is Crap its just belivers of christ supporting our brothers and sisters in times of crisis
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Have you no shame? A little bit?
Amen
Yup, just like every single major religion and all the followers. Cancer. Humanity's cancer, for thousands of years. Good hearted people will often have their goodness increased through their faith, just as malignant and cruel people will have those traits enhanced by it. But while there are plenty of examples of good, decent people who practise Christianity and every other faith, that does not change the fact that the beliefs themselves are literal poison to our world, and it's due to the existence of these religions that situations like this with Anderson grow into the disaster that they do. Look at how faith was used for the aims of 1930 and 1940 Germany, or the Inquisitions, or the Crusades, or the Afgan Taliban, or Israeli government, or the persecutions of science and tech over the centuries, the persecutions of grouos that are different, the justification for owning people in America's first 100 years.... ALL justified with religion.
If we grew up, matured, and let every single one of them go into the mythology and historical fiction sections of the libraries, and focused on reason, common sense, and objective science to understand and move forward as a whole, then my god the advances we'd make as humanity. It's ALL a "bad tree", mistiroberts....
Any n IFB pastor that stands and defense of pastor Anderson's actions and is not calling him out.On this situation.I will no longer listen to. It shows the condition of their heart. God bless
So much evidence here , but the one that really convinced me as a father myself to a daughter was the callous way he treated her. Daughters should have a special relationship with their pa. It saddens me that Steven doesn’t have this natural affection
How could you have not known? Everyone who has seen 5 minutes of his preaching knew he is not right in the head. It is so obvious.
Idk, I’m sorry. I didn’t even know who Steve Anderson was until seeing all of adult children’s testimonies on his abuse. Watching some of his sermons, I was not a once surprised at the man he is. Anyone who can sit through a sermon that so vehemently abuses the word is not excusable to me. Even if now you’re saying “oh we’re separating from him.”
Loyalty to Christ! 🎉❤💯
This is the meeting that could have been an email. 😂
So basically you were nowhere before meeting Pastor Anderson and now that he needs a friend you're cutting him loose.
Mat. 12:24-26---24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
As an Independent Baptist, (who does have association with some IFB churches) I applaud members of the NIFB who have been willing to separate themselves from Anderson. In fact it's a sad indictment on IFB when NIFB are willing to essentially denounce their founder over unbiblical practices while many IFB leaders covered for their buddies.
Heavy shepherding often doesn't end up well
I don't hear discernment here. This guy bows to man. He is here now making excuses for his actions. Why is he saying some things seemed not right, but he lets it go? Maybe it did seem right, but he is not going down with the Anderson ship so decides, quite late in the conversation, that he denounces Anderson.
He needs to repent in true humility
Now that you're free of the tyrant, you can go back to preaching on the deity of Christ like you used to before he pressured you to change your doctrine.
Anderson doesn't believe in the deity of Christ?
@@jasonbourne5142 "Get wisdom, and with all thy getting, get understanding."
Learn to think and meditate, rather than blindly follow.
Explain this in detail
@@ariel9302 Is Jesus God? Yes, or no?
@@libertypastor1307 yes
God is worth loving and worth living for daily. Nothing is hidden before the Lord.
how could his abuse and behaviors not be obvious the second he opens his mouth to preach? He was full of hatred. All of you are complicit by participating in this hateful branch of an otherwise peaceful religion.
Very true. Amazing that any Christian could have that much hate. So disturbing.
Where is love in the family of Steven Anderson, God is Love. Correction is necessary, with Love. The supposed correction done with malice, anger, hatred, and a desire to transfer and inflict pain, is just not correct, it doesn’t display Love. Where is the saving for eternity in this, the hatred can send the family into despair, and being lost. The children are just as damaged as any who have been through a war, because this is PTSD. People are saved individually through a relationship with Jesus Christ, who is the Savior not pastors.
If this is the most difficult within your ministry, I would think you haven't been in the ministry long. The drama of Anderson had to expose itself someday and now is the day. One could easily see this was going to manifest itself.
Well this seems to be what a believer should be doing. They should cease from strife in it's every form for the LOVE of God contains them. All are to put off anger, wrath, and malice and filthy communication out of their mouths.....and all are to speak only words which edify build up and encourage. They should reject bitterness from their lives and have soft answers that will turn away wrath. One is not to create wrath but rather defuse it! We're to endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace . One is not to embrace ill will, strife and offence and one is to be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to wrath for the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God. If one wants forgiveness they better be in the mode where they forgive others and not bear grudges and make sure they're walking in longsuffering and showing forbearance and making doubly sure they don't have a short fuse. Short fuse people open their minds to fall into a dark confusion so we plead and appeal to one and all to allow God's LIGHT and LOVE to establish one once again in a good peaceful place.
Little wonder Martin Luther throughout the entirety of his life referred to these people, e.g. the Baptists, as the fanatics. The Logos, who is Christ and God, has little place among them as is evidenced by their spiritual progenitor Bokelzoon and the Muensterites. Too many Christians stop with the definition of Logos as Word, which, in fact it does mean. However, in the Liddell-Scott lexicon there's numerous pages devoted to fleshing out the meaning of this word: rational thought, reason, logic, speech, rational discourse--all of which is noticeably absent in Anderson and his behavior, taking a fold electric cord to whip his children defies any sense of Logos-inspired rationality. Sorry, I have very little sympathy for his wife too--she's as much of a fanatic as he is.
Seeing some of your past videos, I think you're probably just as theologically goofy as Anderson (calling the apparent age theory "heresy"), but I appreciate you posting this.
The apparent age theory is goofy
Good grief
More evidence of Stockholm's
I thought so too.
Do a sermon where you just drink water for 45 minutes
😂😂
Well, he just did, didn't he? 🎉
God bless you for following the conviction to distance yourself from Anderson and for speaking out about his unbiblical behavior. Based on the hate in his online sermons and threats toward the gay community he has given Christians a very bad name for years now. That is not what we are to do. Christ said the greatest witness is our love for others. Anderson doesn’t know how to separate a person’s actions from their worth. Biblically, we separate the sin from the sinner. It was a given that this capacity for anger would go on at home and with anyone who disagreed with him. Personally I suspect that has was se--lly abused as a child and never received justice or healing for that. There is a hurt there that makes him vehemently lash out at gays over all other sinners. There is no hierarchy of sin biblically. Anderson needs healing and love but he needs to repent first. And he needs to step down from the pulpit.
DB rode the coattails of SA until Dave became willfully biblically stupid. tsk, tsk, tsk
Of course he offered to "preach" whenever he could be Be Seen, Heard, to get the glory, he is shameless
I liked Pastor Anderson's bold preaching, but I think that he became unhinged. Too much screaming and shouting.
And hating.
You made the first step. Now separate from his false doctrine. He's poisoned all you guys
You are the one who is poisoned with lies.
@@splendidwittyman2611 you can think what you want friend. You don't even know what I'm talking about and you're accusing me of being poisoned with lies and you have no idea where I stand. That just shows you how ignorant and foolish you are.. accusing me before you even know what does the Bible say about that?? That's the problem with Anderson's followers.. they're caustic, toxic.. and they bring a bunch of strife to the body of Christ. Most of you guys have a bad spirit and you've been sticking up for your cult leader for far too long when other people have been telling you what's wrong with him.. open your eyes.
Refeshing to hear pastors lean on Bible & logic then say S.A. must step down from being a pastor.
What is going on? Is it because of family problems? Or is it within the Church? The family matters are private and should not be exploited in the public eye because its NOT our business. But in the Ministry of the Church that will matter there being in the public. Otherwise its best for me to stay in the Foursquare church where we invite the Holy Spirit to control our conduct and actions along with the Word of God.
Maybe Berzins should get ordained and start over.
He is ordained
@@LuisMendezRealtor If you think Steven Anderson was ordain you are sadly mistaken.
If I was in Pastor Berzins shoes, I would definitely consider getting his congregation to ordain him since Anderson has never even been ordained himself. He claims pastor Nichols ordained him in his office but come on, Baptist do public ordinations. Praying that God would use someone is not ordination.
I doubt seriously that pastor Berzins would do that though because I am sure he doesn’t want to burn a bridge with the pope.
@@1976-wolverinesI want to say brother Nichols said that he never ordained Steve Anderson.
Pastor David sorry for being harsh with you. Friendship is loyal, but with all seriousness you will be feel Free being tied to a man. Most churches try to preach Christ not Steve Anderson. I encourage you to do so look to Christ not Roger Jimenez or Jared Porsarskzy or Jonathan Shelly all of you preach Christ God Will judge those who don't follow your preaching. 10:50
Unfortunately, Pastor Burson, you have overlooked the fact that Steven Anderson has nearly gotten people on live with his rhetoric. Indirectly, his emotional violence targets a vulnerable member of my family and that of many and you excuse it. Why would you be friends such a creature like that is beyond me, sir. I think you need to do a lot of introspection, and stop hanging on your faith if it’s a shield to protect you from everything. It’s a beautiful thing to open your heart to God it’s entirely different thing to use to protect the most egregious among us.
Regardless of distancing yourself from him, your churches are hateful anyway.
"Hateful." You people project everything onto your opponents.
for whom the lord loveth he chasteneth. don't want to judge, but i always thought based on the pauline epistles, that god will judge a christian for slipping up more harshly than a non christian...lower expectations. in other words, i feel anderson has pyschopathic tendencies, and i wonder if it is even possible for him to repent of his sin in the first place? god does say that some people are so hardened that the holy spirit will not convict them, anymore? in that case, i question his salvation.
Wow, very good point. I have wondered about that over the years. There’s just so much anger and hate there.
Proverb:22:11: He that loveth pureness of heart, for the grace of his lips the king shall be his friend.
Re:19:16: And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Steve Anderson is not a pastor. Never been.
You do have a reason to question everything that he says. He knows the bible and he knows what he was doing to his wife was wrong yet he remained behind the pulpit knowing he was disqualified. And if he believes that he can act in such a manner and considers to be biblical than consider that he is unsaved.
I wonder about that too. He either isn’t saved or he has intellectualized scripture to state points he wanted to make.
Do not understand why he cannot just admit it, pray about it, and repent.God will forgive
1Co:6:3: Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
The WHOLE CHURCH is "separating" from Anderson? Isn't that the same as firing him? I seriously doubt if Anderson still considers this man his "friend." After listening to Anderson's wife who reminds me of a concentration camp matron, I wonder if she was always like that before she met him. Why did this take so long?
It's a different church that was associated with Anderson's movement. They are breaking off ties.
You shall know them by their fruits. Anderson’s hatred is what the world sees.
Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Faith is the evidence of things unseen and the substance of things hoped for.
Stop telling people how great he was. Becuase he obviously wasn't great at all . He was a fake . Lived like the devil behind closed doors !!
And behind the pulpit
He was great, he got lots of people saved and no one can take that credit from him, God used him greately. I condemn his behaviour,how he abused his wife and children, he went too far even beating wife. He must take a responsibility for it
He beat his wife and kids, and did God knows what else, probably was partying with Dirty Donnie. Pharisee.
@@MikeInga he was doing all those evil deeds while he was preaching !!
People are complicated. You want this to be a black and white issue, when there's a lot of gray area. People can do great things for God and still have a lot of sin to answer for. Look at David with Bathsheba and Uriah. That's a pretty damning story for David and yet he's considered a man after God's own heart. Did Pastor Anderson get anyone killed like David? I'm not excusing his behavior, but rushing blindly to Pastor Anderson's defense is just as bad as condemning him as purely evil and a fake.
I respect Pastor Berzins here for taking a calm, level-headed and balanced approach to the issue.
Prison time
Orthodoxy is THE path to Christ
So interesting that pastors accept the hateful sermins and loud screaming at the pulpit. Putting aside the home abuse. I could never ever be a friend to steve andrrson nor a member of his church. Hes deplorable. I do not believe according the Gods word that he is saved and born again from above. I cant even listen to this pastor that says that he didnt know.
you should be there for him during this
Before all this can happen I had a dream about him being betrayed someone very close to him...
I don't know how true are the allegations levellled against him.
But all I know is that I had a dream about this.
@@splendidwittyman2611 You must be MLK.
@@splendidwittyman2611steven is the betrayer
Pastor Berzins was there for him and tried to help him, but Anderson flew off the handle and cussed him out. You can't help some people.
7x70
I want y'all to listen to all the compliments.He's giving mister anderson. generous with his possessions generous with his time led us all to christ. this is how good an abusive, horrible wicked man can look on the outside. do not give credit to outward behavior.
Now more people are free from NIFB movement.... thank God
Where are you going to church these days?
@@Proverbs1130 Another lie that IFB pushes is that there are no good churches outside of IFB. There are Bible believing truth teaching churches all over the world. Christ’s body of believers is alive and well and following Him through his Word and in fellowship with other believers. 🙏❣️
Steven and Zsussa Anderson are not real Christians. Real Christians repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Real Christians know that repentance is not works based. Real Christians love God,themselves and others each day b/c God's that's fulfilling God's purposes for our lives.
Heidi, it is absolutely works to Repent of your sins, ie. turning from your evil ways. The Bible says so. Jonah 3:10 "And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not."
Also, repent just means to turn, to turn from something. You can plan to go to the store and then repent and stay home. Notice how God repented of the evil (harm) He was going to do. Has God ever sinned? Does he need to turn from His sins? Of course not. God turned from the harm he was going to do to the people of Nineveh. Repent simply means to "turn". So saying repent or repentance without a context is meaningless.
So many people have been misled, when they hear "repent" they think it means "repent of sin". Repent can be applied to so many things. In the Bible when you read repent it never once refers to repenting of your sins. Often it is used to show you need to turn from false gods, unbelief, whatever you are trusting in and to turn to Jesus, to trust in him for your salvation.
And…Christian husbands love their wives as Christ loves the church.
But how can an adult married man be rebellious? That's not a thing
Thanks for asking this.
I missed Anderson’s point as well. He keeps banging about his children have to follow authority in their life.
But these are not kids any longer. Grown up men, who are authority themselves.
Also just a reminder of the sequence of the events. These guys reacting on what they perceive as a threat. It’s a REACTION. Anderson went for Miriam, she felt threat to her life, they all stood up to protect her.
What must I do to be saved?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 KJV
How do I become born of water and of the Spirit?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 KJV
Wow. I've heard enough.