Hit the Road with Confidence!: RV Suspension Maintenance Made Easy
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00:00 Intro
01:49 Tasks Overview
03:07 Tools
04:14 Bearing Packing
13:30 Disc Brake Pads Replacement
15:10 Greasing the MORryde Independent Suspension Torsion Bracket
16:41 Replacing the wheel and Torquing the Lugs
19:31 Stock Suspension with Leaf Springs and Hangars
19:49 Dexter EZ-Lube
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UPDATE (2024-0318): The proper torque for our wheels is 140 ft. lbs., not 120, as I stated in the video. We have 17.5" aluminum wheels with 9/16" studs (with coned lug nuts). Be sure to research the proper torque for your particular setup.
I know some people hate this but here's a short terminology lesson. The tapered roller bearing is made up of a cup (outer race) and an assembled cone (inner race, rollers and a cage). So, not a race and a bearing, but a cup and an assembled cone. Sorry to anyone that thinks I'm being picky but I think we should promote good practice.
Great video Chad, just a couple of suggestions having been a mechanic for 50+ years. You might want to put another piece of cardboard under the hub after you pull the wheels off. Dropping a freshly greased bearing in the dirt is very disappointing as you'll have to clean and re-grease again. Also rotate the hub when you are tightening the axle nut to seat the bearings. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the tips!
Being the one who produces instructional videos for work, I really felt that "filming projects makes them take three times as long." I'd like it twice if I could! 😆
What's even funnier is this is my 3rd time filming it! Hence, the old footage. LOL
You really are a natural teacher Chad. We tow an enclosed car trailer and it’s due for maintenance so this was helpful. Great video.
It is worth a mention that when you get grease on the brake disk or inside of the drum clean it very well with brake cleaner. For some of us just looking at grease will cause it to be places we don't want.
Hey Chad: Great video! I also wanted to comment on the greasing of the bearings. You did a great job, but take it from a bearing industry professional for over 44 years- you don't need to put any grease inside the middle of the hub- it's no way going to migrate back into the bearings, so you're just adding heat buildup and wasting grease. The only things that need the grease are the bearings and very little on the grease seal. Two things about this: 1) grease acts like an insulator and too much will actually elevate your hub temperatures and degrade your braking, and 2) And just one more fact about snuggling up the tension nut when re-assembling: you should be turning the hub by hand while snugging the nut to "set" the grease, and you may want to allow for maybe 1/3 or 1/2 turn back-off to allow for bearing clearance due to heat depending on how it feels. You did point out rocking the hub laterally to see if it's too lose which is highly advisable. I will also tell you that in my opinion, Chicago Rawhide (CR) Seals from SKF are the best seal to run, as they have the patented "wave seal" design that wipes the shat diameter back and forth during rotation the seal contact surface away from the seal's contact point. I mention single lip because most people thick a double lip seal is better, when in fact if dirt gets in between the double lips, it will actually grind down the shaft finish, and I know you've seen grooves like that before.
Seanbhaney is correct, an added note if you put to much in the center section it can heat up when moving and actually vacuum out the grease from the bearings. But great video.
Thanks Chad. I put my disc brakes on myself and did oil bath instead of grease. Love them. Going to Morryde in August for my IS. Best uprade ever. All my upgrads are because of you.
Thanks for all you do Chad. You make it simple for the less mechanically inclined
Couple of quick items. Once you tighten the axle nut to snug, you should spin the hub, then loosen the nut that 1 flat. Second, why did you open the bleed screw to push the caliper piston back in? Typically you just push the piston in which in turn push’s the fluid back to the master cylinder reservoir. by opening the bleeder you take a chance in creating an air pocket in the caliper/brake system. Also you by opening that bleeder screw you will also need to top of the brake fluid.
Chad;
We bought a NEW camper a short time ago, I checked the first hub and found almost NO grease! On the other 3 hubs I used the Dexter easy lube and it worked GREAT. HAPPY CAMPING
Oh no! that's not good! Glad you checked it! 👍🏼
Great video Chad, the tip on how pop off the seal is genius!
I've greased many a wheel bearing and one thing I can say is that any grease not in the bearings themselves is wasted grease and can add to the temperature of the hub assembly. The dexter system completely fills the cavity with grease that never sees the inners of the bearing, it just spins around and around. Thoroughly packing the bearing like you've shown here is very necessary but adding grease to the inside void is not. And, after the bearing is laid in both front and back, it's a good idea to compress a little bead of grease between the inner seal and the outer washer so as to provide a solid layer of grease (that the rolling grease) can ride against and remain in the bearing. My thoughts after hundreds of bearing maintenance cycles and not a single bearing loss. Thank you as usual for your wonderful, insightful videos. We'll see you out there somewhere. Todd in NH.
Great video Chad. I’m sure your helping a lot of people save money. This really is easy, a bit time consuming, and definately dirty. But doable for the average guy.
Great video, Chad! I know that was a ton of work to video…times 6!! Thank you for such a thorough video!!
I have been a full time Boon-Docker for over 42 years and have always done ALL my own repairs and maintenance on our RV. Now days you can't trust anyone and especially Camping World, La Masa RV, Aloha RV ETC. There about all the same. The more you can learn how to work on your RV the better.Talk to people and ask questions. Always do a Per Trip before you go anywhere.Walk around your RV and LOOK at EVERYTHING! You will be surprised at what you can find ahead of time and save you a lot of money and downtime.Take your time. be patient and even you can do it. Keep up the great work and stay safe out there.🙏🏻👍
Love the put the washer back on and pull trick.. Way better than trying to get the seal off after...
Awesome video Chad. Thanks for the step by step on the morryde independent system. Just had ours installed last September so thanks for the tips
Very thorough and your explanation of "How you did it" was easy to understand. Thanks for sharing.
If one pad wears faster than the other the caliper isn't sliding on the slide pins. They need grease, too! - Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant
We have the IS, and I just used the EZ Lub for the bearings. No worries about excess pressure, as I only have manual grease guns. And oh yeah, there's a *lot* of work getting the IS and the bearings greased! On the first wheel, doing the IS, I started to think I was doing something wrong, as I'd squeezed that handle so many times, and wasn't seeing any grease coming out. Then I finally saw the old stuff oozing out, then the new. I forget how much grease they each took, but I had to go buy more, as I'd underestimated how much I'd need. The bearings didn't take nearly so much, and by then I was more confident. At this point, I think maybe I'll get a cordless grease gun to go with my other cordless tools. But maybe I should just do the work, help build up those arms! We had a problem with the IS, where (probably scraped along the bottom somehow) one shock had the bottom part sheared off, came out of the bracket at the bottom. We ended up losing one brake line, and the pads on that one. That was not fun to fix, though Morryde was quite helpful, and a mobile tech did the hard parts. Next time we're in the north IN area, we plan to get Morryde to give the whole system a thorough going-over, including alignment, as we think one wheel out of six is slightly out. And maybe we'll have them re-grease everything while they're at it.
The first time I took the wheels off our rig, I found that on one side, they were *way* over-torqued. As you say, the damage is done when that happens. I wonder if I should see about having the lugs removed and replaced. Apparently, when the RV manufacturer put it together, whoever worked on that side just went with the air impact, "more is better" approach. I've found that on cars, too, where a tire shop went nuts on the torque. I've actually removed all the wheels from a car, carried them to a tire shop, and had new tires put on and balanced. I didn't care about saving whatever minor cost of having them put on the car, I just didn't want them torqued to 300.
I like to get all my customers replacement trailer bearing and seals from Napa Auto parts. I take the end tabs from the boxes put in a ziplock bag and tell them to keep them in the trailer so if they have a brake down they can take that to any Napa in the country and they have the part numbers.
Great video-thanks, I really need to learn how to do this (well) myself. This video is a huge help. Also, thanks for the tip on the jack!
You make it look easy. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Fantastic video! Keep up the good work!
First good video on packing wheel bearings on a RV with disc brakes. Thank You!
A most excellent video!! Thanks for the information!
Great video Chad it was very informative and it reminded me of some things i had forgotten.
Nice work! Thanks!
Thanks Chad! Love your maintenance videos of such important tasks such as this. They really break down the barriers of fear to take care of these needs so that I know things are truly taken care of. Being prepared to complete this is so important. Love tinkering with my vehicles.
You provided great videography of the steps to do this maintenance. Well done, and very helpful... thank you.
Great video, I have no mechanical experience but I think I can do this.
Great tips, Chad. Love the video and the time taken for thorough explanations!
Fantastic!
Great job
Awesome video Chad. Thanks alot
Best job I've seen on disk brakes and bearings. You done an awesome job thanks.
As usual, your how to video's are well put together. If and when we do get a trailer, I'll remember your video and keep up with my maintenance as you do.
Love all of your technical videos! It's much appreciated!! I always learn something from your technical skills!!! Thanks a bunch, Mike Mezo.
Thanks for the videos. For disc brakes it's a good idea to take the caliper pins out, clean them up with some brake cleaner and some very fine sandpaper (a trick is to put the threaded end of the pin into a drill, wrap the very fine sandpaper around the pin, and engage the drill at low speed; cleans the pins up really good), and check them for scoring/wear and replace if necessary with new ones. Also, clean the old brake lube the best you can out of the hole where the pins go. I like to put some brake lube on my pinky finger and lube up the inside of the hole, throw some more lube on the pins, and put them back in the holes. It's also a good idea to clean up the points where the brake pads mount in the caliper using a brass wire brush and some brake clean. As well, I like to put some grease on the back of the brake pads to eliminate noise/prevent seizing. When I'm doing disc brakes on my truck/SUV, I usually never have to loosen the bleed valves. I just loosen the cover for the master cylinder and watch that the fluid level is not getting too high when compressing the caliper piston/pistons (some vehicles have two). I've never had a problem doing it this way. I'm curious, do the disc brakes you have on your rig have a master cylinder type container for the hydraulic fluid/brake fluid?
Nice work Chad, as usual, you give excellent explanations for what you are doing and the reasons why you do this.Thank you
Thank you for the video.👍
Great video.
Great video...two issues being a mechanic...when u use the washer trick to get your seal off..hammering the front part of the bearing you contact the cage assembly against the washer potentially damaging it... second outer pad wear usually means that the floating pin could be frozen and you never checked them prior to putting the caliper and bolts back on....
The caliper bushings were all free and loose. But, yea, I could have mentioned that. I also could have greased them.
So, if removing the seal that way. The issue is not really possible bearing damage but damage to washer?
Thanks for the awesome tip to remove the grease seal using the washer and nut!
Great job Chad.. you are very neat and pay a lot of attention to details.. I recently did my brakes but unlike your rig, I have the old drum brakes..
Good job. 👍
I use Mobil1 grease as well. Nice job.
Thumbs up for a brother 🇺🇸
We have MorRyde suspension and the 6 point legs. I pick up the wheels after I break the lug nuts.
Thanks!
Thank YOU! 😀
I just got a small enclosed for towing a motorbike. It has the Dexter Ez lube. I've decided to take it apart old school ever second time.
I have just started doing my own brakes and bearings due to RV service people causing me to buy a new axiel. At this time that is the easiest job I forgot how to do. Putting 600 miles on my axel this weekend thus far no heat on the bearing area.
Always love your maintenance/mod videos. I also have the MorRyde IS suspension and disc brake mod on my GD Reflection 5th wheel. It wasn't clear in the video if you actually drained some brake fluid out of the caliper when compressing the piston with the C clamp and loosening the bleed fittings and/or if you had to refill the reservoir. I've changed many disc brakes and always just slowly compressed the caliper piston as you did after first loosening the brake reservoir cap for venting. Usually never had to add fluid after the maintenance.
Yes.. just a tiny bit of brake fluid. Not enough that I needed to add more.
Good video on a often miss understood process.
Great video that I needed for our MorRyde Independent Suspension. We’d gotten it last May and I’ll be doing our bearings later this summer. The ‘how you did it’ was great and I got some ideas and tips for my job, we only have 4 wheels to do. I am curious about your thoughts on the copious rust on your suspension parts? When I was actually dismayed at the rust forming I sprayed those spots. But seeing yours, I’m wondering something more needs to be done on ours. Thanks again!
Greasing the brakes real good is a great way to eliminate any brake noise. Learned that from Red Neckerson years ago.🙂
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Great and helpful as usual. I did not see you check and lube the metal sleeve where it contacts the rubber bushing. Not the quide pins btw. My pads were wearing on the outside pad faster so upon inspection, I could not move caliper at all when retracting the pads. It should be able to float after tightening down the guide pins. It needs to be able to move slightly on the metal sleeve and rubber bushing. After taking out the 2 bolts holding the caliper, pull out the metal sleeve from rubber boot. Should remove easily, mine was stuck. I cleaned polished and lubed the outside of the metal sleeve with brake caliper grease, and a little of the grease on the opening of the rubber. Slid in nicely and now my calipers can float. Wish I could post a break down on comment to make clearer.
Chad, should you have been rotating that hub when you were tightening it down. That was the method I was taught to use on car hubs back in the day but things may have changed since then. Keep the good stuff coming.
We have taken our I.S. to MoRryde in Indiana August of 2022 and then New Horizon in Kansas September of 2023 both times the alignment and maintenance were done. New Horizon was cheaper and they did rotate the tires on the three axle’s. Both times it was done in a day. MorRyde did feed us lunch. I’m a lot older than you and don’t have the tools to do the maintenance.
“Greasesicle” 👍🏻😄. Awesome video! We’ll be at MORryde for our new IS and disc brakes next week.
Awesome! Tell them we said HI! 😊
I've had issues with synthetic grease drying (Valvolene in this case) out so I stick with petroleum based grease. I like Lucas Red 'n Tacky BTW
So far so good with the dexter system ,,but you hit on the best way to use it for sure…..
Thanks for the great video Chad! I was wondering if you could add to your blog post on the website what to do if there is in fact damage on the spindle, or any of the other surfaces you mentioned.
If my spindle or races were damaged, I would terminate DIY mode and get a trailer or RV shop to take over.
Good Job! Don't know your brake system well. But I change pads on other items (motorcycles, cars, trucks, etc') all the time and when I do, I use a pry bar to open up distance between old pad (trash) & then install new ones. Saves all that time with the bleeding procedure you mention. But I could be wrong with your system? Also it's a good time to pump the brakes several times to get hydraulics pumped back up so when you need to brake it's good to go.
I use the easy lube between full maintenance. Half way through the year, I will pull the tire and put a few pumps in for the back bearing and shoot some extra grease into the front.
That's a great way to use it! 👍🏼
Good detail. Any chance damaging the inner bearings using that method to remove the seal?
Great video as always. You removed a couple springs behind the hub. I didn't see you put any back. Did you miss a step?
Thanks for the video, quite informative. I have independent suspension on my fifth wheel (different manufacturer). Did you replace your lug nuts with something that does not have a cap on them? If so, can you share what you bought?
You guys can have your RV after what I saw a storm do too rvs and the park
Hi Chad. Great "how I did it video". Given that you have the screw on clear dust caps, have you considered switching to oil bath bearing lube? Conversion requires a different rear seal but it's very simple and you can forget about packing bearings every 12 Mos or 12K miles..
i have never seen a grease application that begged so much for an electric grease gun 🤣 but i do hope those greasy hand prints got cleaned off the rotors before calipers went back on. couldn't tell if i missed it or not, and that's an application where 100% brake function is needed
Hello. Was looking for what you use for bearing seals? Also what do you guys use for your tanks pull lever lubricant ? Thank you
Depending on size of your bearings, you can pack 2 bearings at a time. Pu the inner (large) bearing in the tool first then the outer (smaller) one will fit partially inside the larger one. Put cap on tool and pump grease into both bearings.
The trick with the Dexter EZLube is to spin the wheel while injecting grease. Also go slow. Those battery powered grease guns can inject lots of grease fast.
Interesting idea packing 2 at once! 😊 👍🏼 👊🏼
Why didn’t you grease the caliber slide bolts? Does the bearing grease cup waste more grease than repacking by hand? I’m old and do it the old way. Which means wash and dry the bearings and repack by hand. I have the dexter axles on my trailer and I think the bearing greaser is for just to put a little fresh grease in. I plan on doing what you did this year. Another thing I did was to change all my tin covered lug nuts to solid lug nut. Stripped the cover on one when I bought new tires. Told the guy change all the lugs cause I don’t want to have a flat and have that happen to me. And it will happen in the pouring rain in the middle of nowhere. Like the how to videos you put out ,keep’em coming and smooth wide roads to you guys.
That’s a neat trick on removing seals- I will remember that. I’m also not a fan of the EZ lube…seems like you would use much more grease than the conventional method
True. And the hub will be 100% full of grease. Not sure that's a big deal though.. I guess it doesn't expand.
You can run them hubs wet. Meaning, you remove the rubber plug in the middle of the cap and fill it halfway up with gear oil. You never have to pull the bearings again as long as it stays full of clean oil.
I run wet hubs on my gooseneck Dexter 12k axles.
I should add, you do run a preload on the hub bearings when running wet hubs to maintain seal integrity. About one flat turn on the nut is all it takes for re-used bearings.
Just bought a 24 ft. fixerupper.
Great maintenance education video about a subject that many people never think about. I grew up in the 60s learning brake (drum) & bearings maintenance from my Dad this video was a mirror image of what I learned with one exception. I learned how to hand pack bearings (he never trusted the bearing cone). In the 70s I worked in a service garage and when those mechanics found out I knew how to pack bearings I was their “man Friday”. One last comment is by doing this you understand the importance of maintaining the wheel assembly. Thanks again Chad
Watched your video on your brakes how about main chassis ground
Very good video. Very thoroughly explained.
I have grown up doing my own maintenance, retired 45 year aircraft mechanic. By doing as much of your own maintenance, as you said, you save a lot of money. You can be more assured as to quality of work done and the more you do, the more you learn.
The old adage, knowledge is power, is never more true than when you do have to revert to having something done. You can talk to the mechanic or shop and, trust me, you will be treated differently than if you know nothing of what is being accomplished. Plus, by talking to other maintenance techs you can learn and they will explain helpful tips and / or tricks.
Great video Chad. By doing your own work you also have the luxury of timetable to accomplish. Do it all in one time or spread it out over a day or two.
You explained this task about as thorough and complete as could be done. 👍👍
Thank you! 😊
Great video and was just what I needed to understand the process. Question, I followed along with the packing of the bearings and adding grease to the races but how do you know you put enough grease in the races? Is there a concern with adding too much grease? How do you know you have enough. Thanks as always
I don't think there is a concern with too much grease. Particularly considering that the EZ-Lube completely fills the hub. I think too much is better than not enough.. 👍🏼
Hi Chad, I didnt see an EZ-Lube fitting on the disc brake hub though
You got to be careful loosening the bleeder when compressing the brake cylinder. It will expel fluid and then you have to replace fluid. Good video.
Gooood overview on the maintenance requirements of the Morryde IS!!! So simple that a guy thats almost as dumb as a box of frozen shrimp can understand😂
FYI, we have the Morryde IS on our coach we bought almost 2 years ago and wish you had made this video 2 years ago!!! I found the owners manual somewhat ambiguous and confusing on the nomenclature of the components. I ended up calling Morryde about 12 times or so and picking their brains for the right way to perform the maintenance as you did. Durring each one of these calls, I recommended Morryde make a video on the operation, maintenance, and function/description of the IS. I searched ALL over YT for a video like this one you just made/released and it did not exist.
Well, guess what??? The squeaky wheel got the grease, Morryde just released a very good video on their YT channel on this!!! Be sure to watch it and give them a like and subscribe as well.
Recommend you advertise that on your blog, so all hands are aware of this…its very insightful and helpful as to how the IS functions.
Great idea! done! 👍🏼
Do you have a video on replacing the Monroe shocks that are part of the MORryde ISS? How about replacing one of the rubber shear springs? Thanks.
Not yet as we haven't needed to...
A long thin silicone spatula works well for scooping the used grease out of the hub. Just replace it with a new one before your wife notices it missing from the kitchen drawer. 😜
Very nice, I am so happy with my Morryde IS and disk brakes. I went from Indiana to Virginia then back home to Vegas. Don’t remember anything but my lower shock exposed bolt is worn down and bent (both). They said don’t bend back but all is OK. It’s destroying the rubber bushing. Opinion?
I think our rubber bushing on the shocks is all dried out, too. Don't think it's a big deal, and if MORryde says it's okay, just save that correspondence to CYA if you need it late. 😊
Hey Chad awhile ago you had a tool to remove the rear hub cap. Can you send me the link or is it no longer available
Thanks chad. I haven’t done mine yet. Where and how do you get the pads and seals for an rv. If was my truck i would go to the auto parts store and give them the yr make and model Thanks!!
Ask your manufacturer and they should have part numbers. 👍🏼 Order them ahead of time - many of the auto parts stores will not have the right things.
A jack stand is a good idea too in the event the bottle jack gives up the ghost.
Level up system was down.
The nice thing about the independent suspension is the single wheel can drop, and nothing happens. I let it all the way down when I grease that torsion bracket.
@@ChangingLanes Ah! good point.
Great video as always Chad and thank you, I literally just spent last weekend doing this! I just have one question/comment.... Holy Hell Morryde!!! Don't you Powdercoat your suspensions? Your unit isn't that old and its rusting that badly??? Not a good look Morryde!!!! Keep up the great work!
What's the lowest freezing temperature you can operate the Morryde IS at without damaging it?
Been watching your channel for two years and don't even have an RV but had boats on trailers and those too large to for trailers. Many similar issues are common to both. Your DIY is informative and to have a to have an amazing supportive wife involved is a perfect combo.
Hi Chad I was searching in your videos for your comments on the current issues affecting GDRV an others in frame failures .. even if you don’t experience any of that it will be interesting to know your opinion . Big channels like yours will push this companies to produce better products .. beside the scary issues of fifth wheel frames that we currently see the overall quality of RVs is very poor and it is not going to change if we don’t mention it … other than that I like your videos
Thank you for asking for our take on this issue. We're honored that you value our opinion on this topic enough to ask us. We also understand how scary it can be to read some of the hype online.
While we have not had any frame issues, we have published a blog post summarizing what we've seen and read online as well as our own thoughts that will hopefully help you better understand this frame failure issue.
Please see: changinglanesrv.com/rv-frame-flex-our-opinion/
Another awesome maintenance video Chad! Not sure if its me or the video, but seems like theres a good amount of rust spots on the frame and other components. Any concern there?
I think surface rust is inevitable under there. It's never caused an issue for us, though.
Great video, Chad! How many miles were on those discs brake pads? Seems like you haven't had your new RV that long. Or was the brake problem you had, the cause?
I suspect maybe my brake controller was too high? It was 8.9 or 9.. I now have it at 5.
Well I don't know if you've ever tried it but black molly is the best grease you'll ever buy
Next time! 👍🏼
Hey Chad, did you take any classes for RV maintenance? You seem to know what you're talking about. Good job!
Not for this type of maintenance, but I did go to the NRVTA for the fundamentals: ruclips.net/video/cTxJ23Zd27E/видео.html
ever thought of getting with Liquid springs and see about a sponsor ? power brakes also . i know opposite of this vlog about saving money because you'll be looking at about $50k ( i might be wrong ) all around truck and the RV) if full price
we're really happy with our MORryde IS on the RV. I looked into liquid springs for the truck, but they don't do stock 450s. Only the chassis-cab.
Great video Chad. What type of grease is recommended for leaf springs and Morryde 300? Had my Reflection 3 years, pay for wheel bearing repack/ inspection every spring, just had done 2 weeks ago. Not sure if they have been lubing the suspension. Next years my turn.
Cre 3000 I meant.
High temp bearing grease. I usually look for it to say bearings specifically on the container. That should work for your equalizers also.
@ChangingLanes Thanks. I know you mentioned in your video for the bearings, I wasn't sure if same grease should be used for suspension parts.