Unboxing a U.S. Army M1911A1 from the CMP, Range Test and Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2023
- In this video, we unbox a Service Grade M1911A1 that I got from the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
The U.S. Army marked M1911A1 seen here is an update to the original M1911. It's historically known as seeing service with U.S. troops during WW2. The M1911 would serve with many U.S. Troops from WW1 up until the 1980's and even 90's. This pistol was designed by the legendary John Browning.
John Moses Browning is considered one of the most innovative entrepreneurs of the gun world, and his 1911 model is one of his most famous creations. Browning began developing the 1911 in the late 1890s and it was adopted by the United States Armed Forces in 1911, hence its name. The 1911 quickly gained a reputation for its reliability and accuracy, and it remained the standard issue sidearm for the US military until 1986. Browning's 1911 design was revolutionary in its time, featuring a short recoil operation, firing a 45 cal projectile, and a single-stack magazine which allowed for a slim and comfortable grip. The 1911 design also featured a thumb safety, a grip safety, and a slide stop which made it easy to operate and safe to handle. The M1911 set the standard for many modern handguns and it is still widely used by many military, law enforcement agencies and civilians today.
❗️Edit: The number on the barrel is not the serial number, it's a part number. Agter a closer look, the barrel says .45 auto, 7791193 and tgen a 85. In the left side it says TZ 10 P. On the right it says M. A thread on the CMP forums states: "The 7791193 is the Ordnance Dept Part #
Some later versions had a two digit year code (90 shown in example = 1990)
The M on the right lug indicates the barrel was magnafluxed (magnetic tested). On the opposite side the P is the normal proof that is applied.
The manufacturer's markings vary. The bores on later barrels were chrome lined. The barrels are known to be manufactured by S&W, H&R, Colt, Mec Airtronics, IMI, LB, Kart, National Aerospace, Roto 3, GEN II, Duroyd, and MKB. The earliest year code I have observed is 83 and the latest 92. I do not know exactly when the part # started being applied to the chamber hood, but have some 60's vintage barrels that have the number applied…the TZ mark indicates Israeli made, IMI, under USG contract”. other sources indicae the same.
💯So the barrel on this one was prudiced under contract by Isreali Military Industries (IMI). It’s dated 1985.
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The number on the barrel isn't the serial number it's the military part number
Ahh gotcha
Thanks for that, I had trouble finding info on it at first. Finally got some solid info and from I uncovered, the barrel on this one was produced under contract by Israeli Military Industries (IMI). It’s dated 1985. It's got TZ 10 P on the right side and M on the left.
We are sorry you experienced that feeding issue, but glad to see you fixed it and had a fun time on the range. Great video!
Thanks! A small hiccup with the magazine but those things can be expected from time to time. If there was a bigger issue, I’m sure your customer service would have been able to address it promptly.
That’s the point in buying one LOL you get to fix it up all pretty again
Love the name of the oil! I plan on buying a 1911 one day so am watching videos like this. Cheers!
Right on! 😁🍻
What you have there, is a brilliant piece of history, I hope you're not disappointed with that! Congratulations, cool purchase!
Nice great review
Thanks 🍻
Nice looking weapon! Great channel by the way....I got my CMP field grade 1911 this past August, after waiting for a year and four months. They are fantastic
thanks! wow thats about a year and a half! I honestly thought about doing it earlier when they first announced it but I was hoping they would offer them in store, which they never did.
@@BattlefieldCurator I had a really high number in the lottery process..was beginning to think I'd never get the 📞 call!
@@djgaryg yea I was prepared to wait because I read up on the CMP forums. But got the call a few months later.
I purchased a round 2 rack grade. Rear and front sights intact, love it!
Shooting that 1911 like Lt. Dan
Nice gun great video. I received my CMP with a colt frame and a Remington Rand slide. Love it! wouldn’t change anything on it. I had the same problem with the clip. I use my clips from my other 1911’s and it runs flawlessly. Thanks for the video
Ahh ok. Seems like the magazine issue is pretty common then
They are not "CLIPS", they are MAGAZINES. Learn the difference.
I received a Service Grade RR frame Colt slide just like yours in May. Same mag came with mine and I had same failures. Chucked it and used real WWII mags and it worked fine. Modern Colt factory 7 and 8 rounders also worked fine. I cleaned, lubed, changed all springs the minute I got it so those mags are definitely the problem.
I just got my CMP 1911 a couple of weeks ago myself. I opted for the field grade since the service grades weren't available and I received a 1944 Remington Rand slide and frame. I can't find any rebuild marks so I'm assuming it's all original. Overall I'm quite happy with the purchase and the wait was well worth it!
I think I shoulda just got the field grade but oh well, I think it was worth it too!
Mine came with the same mag, it didn't work. You need to try one with hybrid feed lips like checkmate or new colt mags. That did the trick for mine.
I just stumbled upon your channel a couple days ago and im definitely enjoying your content! I have recently inherited a few old military guns (including a 1911), and i was wondering how i go about finding out the real dates they were manufactured, and hopefully any other information about their history?
Thanks! Well each weapon has writing and or insignias. It would be easy to use Google search to figure out what each one could be. Back in the day, people used books and it was a lot more tedious. You could also see your local gunshop, gunsmith, or gun expert friend to help you out.
Lucky you got the service grade. I got the call on Friday and waiting on my shipment notification for Field.
Nice!😎
Thanks for teh interesting video. I also just purchased a 1911A1 from CMP. Mine is a 1944 Remington Rand that shoots very well. The number on your barrel that starts with a 7 is a part number for a post ww2 replacement barrel.
Wow, you got a nice one!
Yep! Costly for service grade
I got a Colt frame & Colt slide made in 1942 in the first round. Also a WW2 Flannery Pipe Co barrel.
Awesome! I was hoping for a Colt frame but oh well.
@@BattlefieldCuratorAny specific reason why? Im hoping for Colt aswell just because its Colt but Im slowly liking the idea of a Ithaca
@@Millie.1965Colt are the more desirable manufacturer since they were the original maker of 1911’s. Well actually, US&S 1911’s are the more valuable 1911’s you could receive from the CMP but it’s likely they get sent to auction. However there are instances of people getting them through regular rounds
I am thinking about getting one!
It was pretty good imo
Bucket list gun !!!!!
Yes!!
You should replace the recoil spring and firing pin spring on all old 1911s.
Very, very nice! God bless America!
I received my service grade Remington Rand, (slide & frame) from round 2 in May of ‘21 Enjoy that great piece of American history!
I think they are cool. I got a round 3 Ithaca frame and replacement slide. Was disappointed in the replacement slide but that’s the luck of the draw. I experienced failures with the supplied mag too, but the gun ran with 100% reliability with Wilson Combat mags. Cool to have a piece of military history.
The Ithaca frame sounds worth it!
@@BattlefieldCurator definitely took a lot of the sting off of the repro slide!
Nice gun,.i want it,.🤩
still waiting for a call or RGN / nice pistol Dan
I just got a Garand from the cmp a month ago I really do want to get a 1911 too. Just gotta get the extra cash
Why the heck are you spraying oil near the chamber?
11/17/22 I received my M1911A1 Service Grade from CMP. A 1943 Remington Rand frame and a GI replacement slide (7790314), which through my research is a Colt made National Match Hard slide contracted for a USAF Marksmanship Program. The barrel is also a replacement (.45 AUTO - 7791193 - '85). All roll marks and inspection initials are legible. The U S Army Ordnance acceptance crossed canons has a "MR" over strike (possibly Mount Rainier Arsenal), but still partly visible. All in all, it's a very nice piece of military history. It shoots very well also. Me? MSgt USAF ret ('73-'95) former Security Policeman (ICBM,aircraft, ABGD and Armorer) I cross trained into Operations Management
, Squadron Ops and served as First Sergeant.
Thanks for sharing. That's interesting history you found, I haven't gotten a chance to research the slide yet
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Colt and remington rand had some overlap in serial numbers, you might have a colt slide and frame
I looked at the overlap serial ranges and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t in that range. I’ll double check sources tonight
I have one from 1918 it was reassembled by Augusta Arsenal sometime.
Nice!
I'm so excited to get mine! I'm struggling to figure out what grade to get!
When they called me I was surprised they had service grade available. I had to get the service grade to see what it was like.
They’re officially out of service grades
@@Zacharykconrad 😭😭😭
@Zacharykconrad that sucks. My RGN was so close, and I planned on getting a service. Guess I'll stick with rack.
@@Zacharykconrad thanks for the info… I know it changes though. I’m guessing they’ve got a lot more M1911A1s that they inspect, repair and get ready for making it available
I got mine last week, a Rack Grade, it was all they (CMP) offered, I was surprised by the condition, which I would grade as good,
That’s good to hear!
The magazine I received with my cmp 1911 did the same jam as you. I ordered a better magazine and fixed problem
I suspect it’s luck of the draw on what magazines you get with these
what did the total cost run ya, if i may ask
I don’t recall the exact amount but it was around 1200
Dig it. Regret that I was stuck at the home 40.....
I sent my packet into the CMP for the 1911 the first week of January 2023 and my random number was generated on January 17 2023. I am hopeful that I may hear something from them by May of this year.
You have a very pretty 1911 pistol. I'd totally want it for $1200. I'd even spend another several hundred to buy a Remington Rand slide. The value will only go up. It's one way to battle inflation.
Yes, I think the purchase was well worth it. I hope the CMP opens up another lottery for these in 2024
Commenting here to because it’s THAT important , check out rti’s video , they are importing a treasure trove of parts kits , they confirmed mp44’s and mg42’s already
Just curious as being from the Netherlands how much did u pay for this ww2 gun?
About $1250 USD
@@pixelfehler1111 have these 1911 actualy been u can buy from that company been in service in europe or the pacific or they stayed in the usa as training weapons?
@@Berniessen No way to truely know, there have been multiple Special Forces modified 1911's pop up and people have been putting in FOIA's (Freedom of information act requests) and I think most of the SF pistols were from 7th Special Forces Group. The only reason this is known is due to the Cage code stickers on the bottom of the frames. Really awesome to see WW2 1911's being issued in the GWOT era. Some are plain 1911s with cage code stickers while others are heavily modified from SF with cage codes or military competition pistol teams.
I Have Grandfather Folded flag in Case, I also own a 1943' , I need a ln . 45ACP, and an Thompson 45'
Nice!
You gotta great deal historical workhorse enjoy
Like to get one,is it hard to do ?
Through the CMP, it’s a mail order process on top of meeting certain requirements to purchase weapons from them.
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You were limp wristing it at the begining.. That is what was causing your feed problrms. Notice it got.better when you used both hands. Limp wristing causes the slide to short cycle a little and jam.
Otherwise, it's a very nice gun. If I did not already have a plethora of 1911s (nine at last count) would want to get one myself. Give it a good clean and lube, it deserves it.
The magazine is military supplied with part and manufacturer codes.
I read up on the mfg code on the magazine. They hat specific one has been known to have problems according to other forums.
You didn't really expect that 70+ Year old 1911 Pistol and Magazine to work, did you?
Lol I had that feeling
Maybe it was due to spraying oil in chamber? The gun is fine, those magazines are cheap junk.
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So far yes!
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Cost?
This one was around 1200 because it was a service grade
Field grade ones are closer to 1000
Got one just like yours. Remington rand receiver and a colt slide. 1943 date. check underneath your colt firing pin retainer plate. Sometimes they are serialized. Mine was and it dated to 1943 as well. Congrats and enjoy. You have a fine pistol! the magazine you have is also USGI just not ww2.
Hmmm 🤔 I’ll have to check that
19200 is us army i believe
Polish the feed
Ramp
He did, he sprayed lube all over it lol
I figure the mismatch slide and frame comes from a combination of rebuilds and careless weapon cleaning details in line units. There should be either a premium for matching or a discount for mismatched units. Either way, I think they're over priced, given the market price for every other countries surplus weapons.
Cool Dan glad you got yours !! That one is a beauty. Mixed parts ..that is OK. Got mine last year... runs great ruclips.net/video/Jb_FtXRO01Q/видео.html THANKS FOR SHOWING
yea the mixed parts don't bother me much... would be cool if it was a Colt frame though
@@BattlefieldCurator Ya they are a great thing coming from the CMP. All that paper work was a breeze so easy.
You may want to be careful letting the slide drop on an empty chamber with 1911s
highly debatable topic, it's not something I'd do too often on this old military pistol though. Thanks for looking out! cheers
I was thinking of ordering one, but they ask for too much personal information to send over US mail. Looks great enjoy. Semper FI.
You wont regret it Marine. Some can be traced to the Marines. Thats what I wanted. SFMF
These are neat, but I'm happy to have bought a Ballester Molina instead. I can buy a Tisas brand new 1911A1 for cheap and get damn near the real deal, the Ballester I bought is in just about perfect shape for the same price and less hassle. Never had a .45 before, I think I like my Luger and some of my .32 pistols better but, they're pretty neat if not just for the fact that they shoot a pretty damn sizable bullet.
Those are junk! Cheap metal, this handgun in video is 80 years old and works fine if he had an actual real 1911 magazine.
lol maybe put the camera down and purchase the pistol with both hands. Or just invest in a tripod or mount
i can tell by the stupid hat it must have been a really rough safari ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're limpwristing.
Too much money for a mismatched piece of crap. History be damned!
Buy yourself 5freaking table.