One advantage to the multi-module Haven is that each module would have food, water, communications, power, and life support, meaning in case of disaster you could close all the hatches and no one would be stranded.
Multimegabit bandwidth at interplanetary distances is absolutely phenomenal - a real game changer! Some very distant spacecraft (such as the Voyagers) currently transmit at about 160 bits per second - no prefixes.
The Vera station also looks very promising. I hope that guy is serious and can find investors and make it happen. Building the station in orbit using drones will be a valuable PoC for when we start to spread to the moon and Mara.
@@patrickgriffiths889 super earths are useless to us. the gravity would screw everything up. plus i doubt anything substantial would evolve out of that environment other then their value as samples. we need one between the size of earth and mars and a K type star with a moon of it's own big enough to flex and heat the planet. If it's the right distance and hasn't suffered any major hits it would have a atmosphere that's breathable. turns out water is everywhere. also no tidally locking of planets to the star. moons are fine too but that would require being far enough to avoid the gas giant it would be orbiting's radiation belts.
Yeah, it would help. The flares are extremely energetic though, and the planets very close, so it's not clear how much it would help. Super-earth might fare better (stronger mag field, stronger gravity, thicker atmosphere).
@@darkfur18Doesn’t need to be repaired or operated. It’s several hundred tonnes of usable material that’s already going at orbital speed. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
@@oberonpanopticon We would have to develop in-orbit Manufacturing and keep the space station boosted until we Figured it out, that's a lot of money Spent On what's not really that much material
@@farmerinthesky It's degraded, we don't have a means to recycle the materials in orbit, and its orbit inclination is not inline with other inclinations as the orbit was specifically designed to be a compromise between Russian and US standard launch trajectories. It's not worth it.
It seems possible to me to have laser telecommunication relays, where previously radio-reliant probes can be received by these relays and send to Earth what they receive. This would reduce pressure on the space network as well as widen the bandwidth for all the radio probes out there.
Just wondering: is it possible to put a notation in the title or thumbnail to indicate it is a "space bites" episode vs Q&A vs Interview? Most good/top youtube channels are able to distinguish their show types that way.
Do we have any full or more detailed images of the moon Triton? Or is it just that one where we can only see (what I'm assuming is) the southern hemisphere?
It shows up within 24 hours of when we post the video. It's in the community tab. Maybe try answering a few older polls? www.youtube.com/@frasercain/community
So could you build a spaceship that has two starships. Refill them in orbit. You can circulate the planet in one shape and when you’re ready to head to Mars or an asteroid. When I say a shape to fly I mean so every solar panels . Maybe even put ion drives where the back. This way you use the fuel to get started and then go to Ion engines which will keep you speeding along.
Atmosphere's have way more possibilities for chemical reactions. There isn't any wind unless an atmosphere is present. The chemical reactions caused by plant life creates a molecule that is chemically unstable (O^2). O^2 becomes carbon monoxide (CO) or dioxide (CO^2) as soon as the oxygen interacts with carbon gas. O^2 tries to interact with many elements to be anything but O^2. We know if we see O^2 in an atmosphere that it's probably life.
I have a question about LIGO and other gravity wave detectors. Do they have to be "pointed' in a certain direction? Or do they just detect the gravity wave spectrum no matter what?
Ligo is not pointed. There is a laser beam, split into two legs at right angles, which bounce back and interfere on a detector. If a gravitational wave comes through, the path length on either leg changes, the interference pattern changes. LIGO uses two facilities, separated by a long distance. You can compare the results from both facilities, do some math, and figure out what direction the wave came from.
@@michaelcox1071 So, does it matter from which direction the gravity wave approaches the detector? I mean, would it get a stronger signal from the same gravitationally significant event if the side of the earth on which it is located happens to be pointed in that direction?
@@JeffTheisen I don’t think the Earth’s mass would present any appreciable reduction in the signal, but I’m not entirely certain. I’m a plasma physicist, and just a spectator on cosmology/astronomy. the two detectors in LIGO are in Louisiana and Washington State, and the relevant separation is the distance between the detectors through the Earth. I’ve never seen any discussion of compensation due to attenuation from Earth mass between the detectors. They have also worked in cooperation with detectors in Europe, and again I never heard anything about this as a factor. My presumption is that the events they are measuring pass through objects without distortion since it is a deformation of space itself. But again, not my field.
I know you try to explain how to see the polls but I've been following for years, watch almost all the videos and sometimes comment, and I've never seen a poll on RUclips. Not just your channel. Is it a feature you have to turn on? 🤷♂️
What if one of these planets has a really strong magnetic field? E.g., how would Earth's atmosphere fare in the "habitable zone" of TRAPPIST-1 -- if, uh, hyper-advanced aliens teleported Earth there?
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What did we get from the ISS? Sorry, but what was its mission again? Did we get value for the money? I'd say the biggest value was learning how to operate and build in space. That should have been the goal unto itself. The original conception by Wernher Von Braun, at least as explained in his Disney film, was to create a toehold in space from which we would spread out from. Most of what he planed could be done by unmanned satellites. What we got was just make a piece that can fit in the cargo bay of a shuttle to justify that program and go nowhere. We don't need another mission to nowhere.
The I.S.S. Has done its bit for king and country and should be given an honorable reentry and remembered for her accomplishments. Orbital Space Station Systems from the private sector will be the next logical step to expand the exploration of space. If the human race is going to succeed in exploring our solar system and beyond… we will need to do so together… “us and them” does not matter when it comes to the salvation of the species, wealth of knowledge to be gain that will be the arbiter of future questions that will never end. I would love to be “a fly on the wall” 300 years into the future watching the crew of a star ship on its way to resupply the inhabitants of a distant world.
I hate the idea of de-orbiting the ISS into the ocean, because it's just more garbage getting dumped into the ocean. Even if it cost twice as much, I'd be much more interested in putting a couple of specialized capsules on it, and push it towards the moon, and then put forth a goal to build a recycling center on the moon. It'd probably be 50 years + before we can recycle that level of "stuff" on the moon, but 50 years waiting on the moon sure beats forever on the ocean floor.
Depends. They each have their uses. But if you mean lunar gateway then yeah it’d make way more sense to build a surface base instead of a station. The only thing a lunar space station does better than an earth-orbiting one is irradiating its crew
shame that all that energy that got the ISS into orbit will be wasted. There should be a way to recycle the ISS in orbit. We need manufacturing in space....
IMO holding out hope that Space X will be involved with launching a space station or anything else of scientific merit is now wishful thinking. Neil Degrasse Tyson just did a great video about this.
I know you're all eaten up with your election fever over there, but when are 'the people' going to get a meaningful choice, between a candidate who is 'A - OK', with the universe as it is, and the anti-black hole hero. Should our Galaxy have black holes, or not, Totally a Haves vs the Have-nots debate, but the one with, perhaps the weightiest outcome.
@@sjsomething4936 yeah I don't like the concept of private for-profit corporations owning a space station. You read any science fiction in the last 100 years you might understand why that's a bad idea
@@orsonzedd oh I see, it’s because *fiction* 🙄. I’d love to see NASA (and space agencies in other countries too) funded massively and be able to construct another space station, but the reality is that the days of NASA getting really large budgets is likely over. As a result, private space companies will have to fill the gap with governance provided by NASA and other regulatory bodies (FAA etc.). Even China, nominally a communist country, is using private companies to build a lot of their rockets.
Looking forward to the interview about Red Dwarf atmospheres!
ISS is showing its age. It will probably be cheaper to build new instead of trying to fix all the leaks and other issues.
Probably true. But future space travelers will wish we had boosted its orbit so that they could visit it like scuba divers visit old sunken ships.
@@FLPhotoCatcher they should land it and give it to me so i can live in it like a normal house frfr
We've had a continuous human presence in space for nearly 24 years. i hope we can continue that and don't have to start over.
There'll still be people up there
Just like in every other aspect of the humansphere, we will be usurped by automation, ai, and robots.
China might have to carry us
can't wait for that trappist 1 interview. thnx Fraser
Thanks a bunch for all the news, Fraser! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
One advantage to the multi-module Haven is that each module would have food, water, communications, power, and life support, meaning in case of disaster you could close all the hatches and no one would be stranded.
I like in the intro how the words burst into red, blue and green, it looks like the chromatic aberration in my cheap binoculars.
They transmitted cat videos in high definition...FOR THE FUTURE!! 😅 That's some high quality engineering
Great coverage as always Fraser. I have been a lifelong nerd and I learn new things with each episode. Thank you.
Multimegabit bandwidth at interplanetary distances is absolutely phenomenal - a real game changer! Some very distant spacecraft (such as the Voyagers) currently transmit at about 160 bits per second - no prefixes.
We will notice the end of the ISS and will bow our heads.
Thanks for all of your work Fraser. Much appreciated Sir.
Even if the inverse square law is a jerk about it, that's still about 230Kb/s at Pluto. Pretty friggin good
13:02 That question just blew my mind!!! How did it stay in orbit even after its companion went supernova?!?!
A decent amount of mass usually remains after a supernova, so there’s still something left to orbit
The Vera station also looks very promising. I hope that guy is serious and can find investors and make it happen. Building the station in orbit using drones will be a valuable PoC for when we start to spread to the moon and Mara.
Can't wait for the return of the star party!!
I think that NASA should sell the space station as a "real fixer-upper." At the very least it would save the cost of de-orbiting.
the sun flares alone killed trappist before it was possible. better to look for a K type star.
Space party. whoop whoop ! !
Can't wait to watch SpaceX push ISS out of orbit. Going to be something to see. I hope they have cameras set up everywhere.
Hope for the TRAPPIST-1 planets is great to hear! 🤞
Maybe a super earth with a thick atmosphere and a magnetic field could be habitable? Seems like a stretch, but it's a big universe.
@@patrickgriffiths889 super earths are useless to us. the gravity would screw everything up. plus i doubt anything substantial would evolve out of that environment other then their value as samples. we need one between the size of earth and mars and a K type star with a moon of it's own big enough to flex and heat the planet. If it's the right distance and hasn't suffered any major hits it would have a atmosphere that's breathable. turns out water is everywhere. also no tidally locking of planets to the star. moons are fine too but that would require being far enough to avoid the gas giant it would be orbiting's radiation belts.
The Vera Rubin Observatory just got its first image yesterday, 24th october 2024, with the ComCam.
#CaptureTheCosmos
haven2 looks ready for centrifugal force gravity sim
Must do before any long journeys.
Seems quite likely that NASA would be able to have its own module on a larger commercial space station.
It would be nice to just increase orbit where it would be a relic but cost too much
I heard a proposed idea to push the iss to a higher orbit so it could be salvaged at a later date
For these planets in the Trappist system, couldn't a magnetosphere help against these solar storms?
Yeah, it would help. The flares are extremely energetic though, and the planets very close, so it's not clear how much it would help. Super-earth might fare better (stronger mag field, stronger gravity, thicker atmosphere).
When Starship works out, getting large Space Station payloads up there won't be a problem.
It's not emotional, Fraser, it's illogical. All that stuff is worth a LOT more in orbit than burned up on the ground.
@@farmerinthesky not in operating and repair costs
@@darkfur18Doesn’t need to be repaired or operated. It’s several hundred tonnes of usable material that’s already going at orbital speed. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
@@oberonpanopticon We would have to develop in-orbit Manufacturing and keep the space station boosted until we Figured it out, that's a lot of money Spent On what's not really that much material
@@darkfur18 Irrelevant. Worth their weight in gold as raw materials in space.
@@farmerinthesky It's degraded, we don't have a means to recycle the materials in orbit, and its orbit inclination is not inline with other inclinations as the orbit was specifically designed to be a compromise between Russian and US standard launch trajectories. It's not worth it.
The ISS could be repurposed as a orbital assembly facility for parts of spaceships. Or used as the Lunar gateway station.
It seems possible to me to have laser telecommunication relays, where previously radio-reliant probes can be received by these relays and send to Earth what they receive. This would reduce pressure on the space network as well as widen the bandwidth for all the radio probes out there.
Just wondering: is it possible to put a notation in the title or thumbnail to indicate it is a "space bites" episode vs Q&A vs Interview? Most good/top youtube channels are able to distinguish their show types that way.
QUESTION: just how close are Web, Gaia, and Euclid to each other? If you were riding on one of them, could you see the others?
Work pie and astronot buildings can make new ship for higher orbit!
2:24 what about new Glenn? Isn’t it 7 meters?
Cool.
So haven can be any size and arranged any way they want?
Do we have any full or more detailed images of the moon Triton? Or is it just that one where we can only see (what I'm assuming is) the southern hemisphere?
Sadly we only ever visited it once, so we only have images of one hemisphere (really half a hemisphere)
I keep hoping to get in on your poll, but I never see it. Is there a url to the poll?
It shows up within 24 hours of when we post the video. It's in the community tab. Maybe try answering a few older polls? www.youtube.com/@frasercain/community
As Fraser said, click the Community tab. I’ e never failed to find it there.
So could you build a spaceship that has two starships. Refill them in orbit. You can circulate the planet in one shape and when you’re ready to head to Mars or an asteroid. When I say a shape to fly I mean so every solar panels . Maybe even put ion drives where the back. This way you use the fuel to get started and then go to Ion engines which will keep you speeding along.
Question: Why do scientists think a planet must have an atmosphere to be habitable?
Asking for a Europa space-whale friend.
Atmosphere's have way more possibilities for chemical reactions. There isn't any wind unless an atmosphere is present. The chemical reactions caused by plant life creates a molecule that is chemically unstable (O^2). O^2 becomes carbon monoxide (CO) or dioxide (CO^2) as soon as the oxygen interacts with carbon gas. O^2 tries to interact with many elements to be anything but O^2. We know if we see O^2 in an atmosphere that it's probably life.
It’s easier to look for life as we know it than life as we don’t know it. And definitely easier to detect and recognize.
I have a question about LIGO and other gravity wave detectors. Do they have to be "pointed' in a certain direction? Or do they just detect the gravity wave spectrum no matter what?
One detector wouldn’t know the direction the wave came from but with three of them you can triangulate the location.
Ligo is not pointed. There is a laser beam, split into two legs at right angles, which bounce back and interfere on a detector. If a gravitational wave comes through, the path length on either leg changes, the interference pattern changes. LIGO uses two facilities, separated by a long distance. You can compare the results from both facilities, do some math, and figure out what direction the wave came from.
@@michaelcox1071 So, does it matter from which direction the gravity wave approaches the detector? I mean, would it get a stronger signal from the same gravitationally significant event if the side of the earth on which it is located happens to be pointed in that direction?
@@JeffTheisen I don’t think the Earth’s mass would present any appreciable reduction in the signal, but I’m not entirely certain. I’m a plasma physicist, and just a spectator on cosmology/astronomy. the two detectors in LIGO are in Louisiana and Washington State, and the relevant separation is the distance between the detectors through the Earth. I’ve never seen any discussion of compensation due to attenuation from Earth mass between the detectors. They have also worked in cooperation with detectors in Europe, and again I never heard anything about this as a factor. My presumption is that the events they are measuring pass through objects without distortion since it is a deformation of space itself. But again, not my field.
I know you try to explain how to see the polls but I've been following for years, watch almost all the videos and sometimes comment, and I've never seen a poll on RUclips. Not just your channel. Is it a feature you have to turn on? 🤷♂️
Should be in the “posts” or “community” section of the channel
@@oberonpanopticon oh awesome thank you! Idk how I didn't see that before just had to scroll the tabs to the right.
Thanks to gaia, scifi god's goddess.
Red dwarfs have large planets close by. Could this mean that an inner planet gets deformed like Io? (and keeps creating atmosphere)
If we find a black hole near the solar system can we use it as a particle accelerator?
What if one of these planets has a really strong magnetic field? E.g., how would Earth's atmosphere fare in the "habitable zone" of TRAPPIST-1 -- if, uh, hyper-advanced aliens teleported Earth there?
What if life found a way to use the flares as energy, maybe even a requirement like light for photosynthesis?
They do have a lot of ultraviolet radiation, but it's really hard to use it and not just get irradiated by it. But life always seems to find a way...
Yessss hope.
(No way.)
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What did we get from the ISS?
Sorry, but what was its mission again? Did we get value for the money?
I'd say the biggest value was learning how to operate and build in space. That should have been the goal unto itself. The original conception by Wernher Von Braun, at least as explained in his Disney film, was to create a toehold in space from which we would spread out from. Most of what he planed could be done by unmanned satellites. What we got was just make a piece that can fit in the cargo bay of a shuttle to justify that program and go nowhere. We don't need another mission to nowhere.
You think you're seeing the whole picture? 600x zoom, and we haven't even started
The I.S.S. Has done its bit for king and country and should be given an honorable reentry and remembered for her accomplishments. Orbital Space Station Systems from the private sector will be the next logical step to expand the exploration of space. If the human race is going to succeed in exploring our solar system and beyond… we will need to do so together… “us and them” does not matter when it comes to the salvation of the species, wealth of knowledge to be gain that will be the arbiter of future questions that will never end. I would love to be “a fly on the wall” 300 years into the future watching the crew of a star ship on its way to resupply the inhabitants of a distant world.
Always enjoy the prog but Starship can't even get to orbit.
I hate the idea of de-orbiting the ISS into the ocean, because it's just more garbage getting dumped into the ocean. Even if it cost twice as much, I'd be much more interested in putting a couple of specialized capsules on it, and push it towards the moon, and then put forth a goal to build a recycling center on the moon.
It'd probably be 50 years + before we can recycle that level of "stuff" on the moon, but 50 years waiting on the moon sure beats forever on the ocean floor.
Who knows, I’m sure someday somebody with too much time and money will dredge up all the stuff that’s sitting in point nemo
One day in the far fetched future gridlock in space will be a reality…
Wouldn't it be more sensible to build a base on the moon rather than another space station?
Depends. They each have their uses. But if you mean lunar gateway then yeah it’d make way more sense to build a surface base instead of a station. The only thing a lunar space station does better than an earth-orbiting one is irradiating its crew
I bet if SpaceX would design their own space station it would be 🔥
😂😂😂😂😂
They’re a shipping company though. They’re the ones who launch other people’s space station modules.
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Are any of the new space station modules gonna be called the 2pac Module?
Unless there’s a major upgrade it technology then it’s getting de orbited. Could push it to the moon.
Could the Sun have a black hole partner with 70000 years orbital period?
Could it? Sure
Does it? No
Stupid atmosphere, hogging all the gamma rays.
Is the Chinese one the 17, or the 18? I hope it's the 18 - that comes with FRIED rice! 😀
BH could have been a direct collapse.
I think we should have crashed the ISS into the moon personally.
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Got 'em.
shame that all that energy that got the ISS into orbit will be wasted. There should be a way to recycle the ISS in orbit. We need manufacturing in space....
Great. More privatization.
IMO holding out hope that Space X will be involved with launching a space station or anything else of scientific merit is now wishful thinking. Neil Degrasse Tyson just did a great video about this.
And just where is the money coming from for this Haven project (s)? Talking the talk is easier than walking the walk.
Investors.
private investors, it was all explained in the video
I’m sceptical too, but it does seem like they’ve actually built hardware
Please don't start doing absurdly goofy thumbnails like Anton.
Please please vote. My life will be over if Trump wins. I'm scared all the time.
I'm Canadian, so I can't help you with this one.
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I know you're all eaten up with your election fever over there, but when are 'the people' going to get a meaningful choice, between a candidate who is 'A - OK', with the universe as it is, and the anti-black hole hero. Should our Galaxy have black holes, or not, Totally a Haves vs the Have-nots debate, but the one with, perhaps the weightiest outcome.
I'm not sure what they're doing in the US, but here in Canada it's at the top of every ballot.
How about we don't let private companies design our space stations
Like they should go to jail if they try to launch a space station?
Any particular reason for your point of view or you’re just going to toss out a random comment and not provide any just or rationale for it?
@@frasercain no like they should be nationalized
@@sjsomething4936 yeah I don't like the concept of private for-profit corporations owning a space station. You read any science fiction in the last 100 years you might understand why that's a bad idea
@@orsonzedd oh I see, it’s because *fiction* 🙄. I’d love to see NASA (and space agencies in other countries too) funded massively and be able to construct another space station, but the reality is that the days of NASA getting really large budgets is likely over. As a result, private space companies will have to fill the gap with governance provided by NASA and other regulatory bodies (FAA etc.). Even China, nominally a communist country, is using private companies to build a lot of their rockets.