Its coil sprung, hence it's correct description is multi link, absolutely correct description. Multi link refers to radious arms that retain the solild axle in place forth and aft, as well as the pan arm that controls side movement. Multi link is the correct description for coil sprung axles. Multi link isn't the description for Independent as you eluded to.
Just sold my 2023 T60 max and this is a very accurate assessment. Power, TQ, Trans are all good. Bit surprised ol mate didnt mention the deal breaker seats. They are just ass numbing after two hrs in the saddle and dont sit your beer between your legs as the base is so short it will hit the floor at some stage. Glove box is virtually useless, engine noise is 1/10 and the old model screen is 100% junk., so its good to see the new one has improved. Replaced T60 with the last of the Tuscon Diesel N Line that does everything well and not a thing that i can fault. 6.7 ltrs/100km from Mornington to Mildura and the idiots have gone to some type of electric junk only.
In many car reviews there is bias, like for instance in many reviews you always hear reviewers talk about the Ford ranger constantly as if they are paid for marketing by Ford. However in some cases like this , the reviewer is being honest , the people that take offense are mainly Chinese bots. Once you say something bad, they come in droves to defend. This ldv is a new vehicle and its already stuttering as if the fuel pump is going bad. These are also known to rust . There are some Chinese utes that are really good, like the gwm canon alpha , but definitely not this ldv here.
@@warcrabcyber9908 yeah I wasn’t really sure what old mate was talking about with the stuttering. Pretty certain that’s not a common LDV feature right there. I like the look of the Alphas though. Super nice interiors! Proving to be a good seller by the looks of my local roads!
@@Paradoxical124 what are they up to over at carsauce? I see they’re travelling around a lot testing our cars. Thinking they’re always going to wear some level of bias because of that?
No way I’d consider a Chinese built vehicle - a lot of folk will be tempted to buy an MG for example thinking it’s a UK brand and will soon learn they’re actually built in China and cheap for a reason - if it’s not Toyota it’s not sitting in my driveway and wouldn’t touch a bogan Ford either - I’m very happy with my $18k 2010 diesel Hilux with very superior off-road handling and good on road dynamics - even has automatic transmission, ABS, cruise control, aircon and electric mirrors/windows - I’d put the $50k towards property.
Old design and LDV/MG/SAIC rust like there is no tomorrow!! Qld buyer had to take LDC to court for his warranty claim after 18 months owning a T60, he was advised he lived too close to the coast! 95% of Aussies live on the coast, the dealership was across from the water front FFS! I am not a hater of Chinese cars and if the LDV group make a good car I'm there, love the price wars that they bring and I like cannon alpha and musso so cheap utes all good, just not a fan of the build here.
It’s a “no” from me. Too many issues from watching this and just shows the lack of engineering from the in-house developed motor. Most Chinese manufacturers need time to catch up. At the moment they all look great on paper specs only but barely satisfactory in the real world - although I’d seriously wonder whether the Ford would be more unreliable in the long run
Is this the tiny market in Aus? If u know so much about tech and " quality" how comes noone internationally drives a " Holden" but most international markets drives Chinese ?
Musso any day , I have had rexton 2009 now done 380k and my 2022 musso 46k no big issues except for screen freezing ever so often. Good build quality since 2005 i have had and passed to kids 3 ssangyongs.
Just finished towing about 2.7T of van 1400km. You know you're towing, but it does fine. Toowoomba range/Bypass was also fine, sitting on around 70km/h at the steepest points. Didn't get hot. For me run about 13L/100km compared to my normal driving around 8L/100km. Small fuel tank, so if you're doing a big trip, carry extra diesel.
Even the Tesla cant make EV batteries but use mostly Chinese EV batteries. So u basically driving near a Tesla that is mostly manufactured in China and batteries made in China.
U think they dont know what quality and safety is and most of the international markets dont know what is quality ? So does " Holden" even export or anyone drives that crap internationally?
@@powderskier5547 Biased opinion is not truth he has reviewed other ure"s which to my opinion has issues but he never touched on the issues like he is doing now
I have watched you analyse other utes and you avoid mentioning their flaws even though they are not flawless yet for this one you criticise from beginning to end just stop the bias
Always enjoy Poch reviews
Its coil sprung, hence it's correct description is multi link, absolutely correct description.
Multi link refers to radious arms that retain the solild axle in place forth and aft, as well as the pan arm that controls side movement.
Multi link is the correct description for coil sprung axles.
Multi link isn't the description for Independent as you eluded to.
Just sold my 2023 T60 max and this is a very accurate assessment. Power, TQ, Trans are all good. Bit surprised ol mate didnt mention the deal breaker seats. They are just ass numbing after two hrs in the saddle and dont sit your beer between your legs as the base is so short it will hit the floor at some stage. Glove box is virtually useless, engine noise is 1/10 and the old model screen is 100% junk., so its good to see the new one has improved. Replaced T60 with the last of the Tuscon Diesel N Line that does everything well and not a thing that i can fault. 6.7 ltrs/100km from Mornington to Mildura and the idiots have gone to some type of electric junk only.
Plus that newer version looks damn ugly at the front. Seat comfort is top priority and a deal breaker for sure
Pretty decent review of the Plus, nicely done.
Not sure what the comments are about bias in the interview, thought it was pretty legit. Good verdict.
In many car reviews there is bias, like for instance in many reviews you always hear reviewers talk about the Ford ranger constantly as if they are paid for marketing by Ford.
However in some cases like this , the reviewer is being honest , the people that take offense are mainly Chinese bots. Once you say something bad, they come in droves to defend.
This ldv is a new vehicle and its already stuttering as if the fuel pump is going bad. These are also known to rust . There are some Chinese utes that are really good, like the gwm canon alpha , but definitely not this ldv here.
@@warcrabcyber9908 yeah I wasn’t really sure what old mate was talking about with the stuttering. Pretty certain that’s not a common LDV feature right there.
I like the look of the Alphas though. Super nice interiors! Proving to be a good seller by the looks of my local roads!
Whatever you do, do not take advice on Chinese cars from CarSauce, its more than obvious there is something behind the scenes.
@@Paradoxical124 what are they up to over at carsauce? I see they’re travelling around a lot testing our cars. Thinking they’re always going to wear some level of bias because of that?
I hope LDV takes notes from honest reviews like yours, and responds in a positive way with making improvements to the vehicle.
No way I’d consider a Chinese built vehicle - a lot of folk will be tempted to buy an MG for example thinking it’s a UK brand and will soon learn they’re actually built in China and cheap for a reason - if it’s not Toyota it’s not sitting in my driveway and wouldn’t touch a bogan Ford either - I’m very happy with my $18k 2010 diesel Hilux with very superior off-road handling and good on road dynamics - even has automatic transmission, ABS, cruise control, aircon and electric mirrors/windows - I’d put the $50k towards property.
But nissan build in china
@@joebertpaduelan1701 wouldn’t buy a Nissan either as they’re a rebadged Renault.
Old design and LDV/MG/SAIC rust like there is no tomorrow!! Qld buyer had to take LDC to court for his warranty claim after 18 months owning a T60, he was advised he lived too close to the coast! 95% of Aussies live on the coast, the dealership was across from the water front FFS!
I am not a hater of Chinese cars and if the LDV group make a good car I'm there, love the price wars that they bring and I like cannon alpha and musso so cheap utes all good, just not a fan of the build here.
Best CC presenter. 👍👍👍
No he is biased
Tom Baker imo.
The BMW grill meme is real
It’s a “no” from me. Too many issues from watching this and just shows the lack of engineering from the in-house developed motor. Most Chinese manufacturers need time to catch up. At the moment they all look great on paper specs only but barely satisfactory in the real world - although I’d seriously wonder whether the Ford would be more unreliable in the long run
This is a biased review
Never any mention of an important aspect: Fuel tank capacity??
He's too biased just criticism nothing important
73L of pure Chinese thrill! 😁
Good presentation. Usual chinese problems, its really still a prototype by Japanese standards.
Worst presentation just usual bias and unfair criticism on a product just because it's Chinese
Go the GWM Ute instead, way more reliable.
Making peak power @ 4000rpm is pretty pointless, you'd have to be standing on the accelerator to achieve it....and I say this as a DMax owner
Is this the tiny market in Aus? If u know so much about tech and " quality" how comes noone internationally drives a " Holden" but most international markets drives Chinese ?
Would you buy this or a Musso ?
Musso any day , I have had rexton 2009 now done 380k and my 2022 musso 46k no big issues except for screen freezing ever so often. Good build quality since 2005 i have had and passed to kids 3 ssangyongs.
Make it a plug in hybrid
Why no T60 MAX MEGA TUB PLUS LUXE
Thoughts on 2.7 T caravan towing performance?
Just finished towing about 2.7T of van 1400km. You know you're towing, but it does fine. Toowoomba range/Bypass was also fine, sitting on around 70km/h at the steepest points. Didn't get hot. For me run about 13L/100km compared to my normal driving around 8L/100km. Small fuel tank, so if you're doing a big trip, carry extra diesel.
@@aussiemotomatt 💯
Thanks. Good to know
Ponch for PM
This is also known as Chevrolet S10 Max technically a next gen Colorado
Is that in Chile? Or Brazilian maybe? 🤔
Mexico @@DiceyRicey
It’s called a Temu Ranger😊
Wouldnt go near a chinese car even if it was free, value my life
Even the Tesla cant make EV batteries but use mostly Chinese EV batteries. So u basically driving near a Tesla that is mostly manufactured in China and batteries made in China.
U think they dont know what quality and safety is and most of the international markets dont know what is quality ? So does " Holden" even export or anyone drives that crap internationally?
My God! So many issues!!!
Korean made cars are better quality.
If the reviewer was fair and not biased you would get the true picture
Yeh until the eng shits itself isn't there a class action in Aus (Hyundai eng failure)
Cheap would be top spec for 30k...
Recto-lineal
God, they are horrendous
This review is very biased against Chinese the
13:25 car
good its the truth
@@powderskier5547 Biased opinion is not truth he has reviewed other ure"s which to my opinion has issues but he never touched on the issues like he is doing now
@@eliazarookembo6063
Mate, compared to Japanese vehicles this thing is garbage, gutless engine, horrible resale and classic Chinese cheapness.
I have watched you analyse other utes and you avoid mentioning their flaws even though they are not flawless yet for this one you criticise from beginning to end just stop the bias