I Was Advised Not To Pay Off My House, What Should I Do?

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Комментарии • 437

  • @tristan2332
    @tristan2332 2 года назад +71

    I don't regret paying off house early....I have no car payment or mortgage...makes it easy to live well below means.

    • @oski632
      @oski632 2 года назад +3

      i think people need to look beyond the math and the price of not having a mortgage makes life just so much easier

  • @theplaintiff5450
    @theplaintiff5450 2 года назад +106

    I haven’t had a house payment for 10 years. I don’t care about the spread on investments I could have gotten. I don’t have a house payment, outside of tax.
    Best decision I ever made

    • @johndone8045
      @johndone8045 2 года назад +9

      thats such a mind set for a middle class, good luck

    • @rayjgold
      @rayjgold 2 года назад

      Don't forget I insurance and a higher income tax bill, if you still work. If you break these down monthly....it will not be that much lower than your mortgage was.....if you make above average income.

    • @jimroscovius
      @jimroscovius 2 года назад +10

      ​@@johndone8045 Freedom and peace are more important. Money will be made later.

    • @Hotnik0813
      @Hotnik0813 2 года назад +5

      @@johndone8045 such a mind set for those winning at life.

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад +2

      @@Hotnik0813 we all have diff definitions of winning!

  • @Winnie-Kay
    @Winnie-Kay 2 года назад +95

    To clarify: keep thirty thousand dollars in an emergency fund, pay one hundred forty thousand dollars on the mortgage. With a four hundred thousand dollar annual income, the remaining thirty-six thousand dollars can be paid off within three months.

    • @seekwrage
      @seekwrage 2 года назад +5

      They might be able to make that 400k stretch a bit to make it happen.

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 2 года назад +160

    I paid cash for a house... best decision ever. 16 years of no house payment.
    Any investment advisor who says not to pay off the house just wants your money in their program so they can get commissions.

    • @Force5_Eye_Dev
      @Force5_Eye_Dev 2 года назад +8

      Never heard a good argument for not paying off a house. Only either bad info / ignorance or trying to sell you something.

    • @Excalibur2
      @Excalibur2 2 года назад +19

      @@Force5_Eye_Dev it's real simple: in a low interest environment, it financially makes sense to invest the money instead of paying it off. This, of course, only makes sense if you are responsible enough to actually invest the difference and not just blow it on junk.

    • @Force5_Eye_Dev
      @Force5_Eye_Dev 2 года назад +11

      😂 like I said. No good reason. Not having a mortgage / rent each month to live is worth about a 75% return. So show me that and I’ll keep the mortgage and put the money into that vehicle.
      You people are all the same. Just do the math. Pay it each month be good with your money.
      You’re still under the great stress of HAVING to make a mortgage payment each month.
      .
      The best thing I ever did was get my mortgage payment ahead by 12 months (as in next payment due was next year) then paid the payment to keep it moving forward and put everything else on the principle.
      I own 10 properties. So not just a joe blow hoping to retire on social security.

    • @G_Money_
      @G_Money_ 2 года назад +1

      Exactly!

    • @03c5z
      @03c5z Год назад +2

      @@Force5_Eye_Dev that isnt a fair statement. There are plenty of valid arguments. Take the investment advisor out of the equation. Use a T Bill for example, regarded as the safest investment. If the rate is above your home interest, you have an investment that is virtuallt zero risk that is making you more money. And guess what, no comissions for someone that has an reason to sway your decision. Paying off your house is right in some cases. Its simply not the answer for everyone, especially if you are a more sophisticated investor that knows how to manage risk.

  • @flutgos
    @flutgos 2 года назад +153

    "I make $5 million a year and I still owe $5k on my car. What do?"

    • @Mansini77
      @Mansini77 2 года назад +15

      That was this call in a nutshell

    • @teenyverse7707
      @teenyverse7707 2 года назад +8

      lol... ugh.. consolidate.😄

    • @viram1831
      @viram1831 2 года назад +15

      U sell the car & purchase a 3k car so u have 2k to invest 💁‍♂️🤔

    • @joyaustin6581
      @joyaustin6581 2 года назад

      Exactly

    • @ginoturano6821
      @ginoturano6821 2 года назад +9

      Go get a side hustle and deliver pizza

  • @genxx2724
    @genxx2724 2 года назад +36

    $400K income? Just save and invest for college.

  • @LifeHackMEDIATV
    @LifeHackMEDIATV Год назад +19

    when he said "WHEN YOU HAVE DEBT AND YOU GOT SAVINGS ALL YOU DOING IS HOLDING THE BANKS MONEY FOR THEM" "IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY" I FELT THAT TO MY CORE. Being DEBT FREE IS life Changing.

    • @HappyPenguin75034
      @HappyPenguin75034 Год назад +2

      And making 5% interest on cash vs 3% mortgage. Mortgage interest can push you over salt cap. Yes I get taxed on interest now. Still. But put in CD getting 5% and take interest in lower income years. Bingo.

    • @richsamuel2922
      @richsamuel2922 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@HappyPenguin75034 I believe they addressed this math you're talking about. Yes, technically you can make a few thousand dollars a year by holding the bank's money for them. If your investments are paying an interest rate higher than your mortgage. BUT when life happens are you sure you WON'T touch that money? If you do you're essentially borrowing from the bank again.

  • @thenewwayhome
    @thenewwayhome 2 года назад +20

    There are lots of advantages if he's going to pay off his house. And if he's got the means to pay it off, why not? It actually feels good to have one of our monthly expenses crash out from the list of our worries in this current situation. Keep moving forward!

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 2 года назад +13

    When you get advice from someone who makes a living based on "assets under management", you can bet YOUR bottom dollar (because it certainly isn't their money at risk!) that they will "advise" you to put more of your assets under their management! It's like asking a house painter how much of your house you should pay him to paint...just the parts that need it or the whole house. Always be skeptical of someone advising you to stay in debt, when doing so is to THEIR benefit, financially.

  • @Chromewarrior
    @Chromewarrior 2 года назад +81

    The feeling of not owing a penny on your home is priceless 👍

    • @jerrodlopes186
      @jerrodlopes186 2 года назад +11

      ...until time to pay your property tax rolls around again and you realize once more that you really don't own it at all.

    • @Chromewarrior
      @Chromewarrior 2 года назад +3

      @@jerrodlopes186 that’s another story :) but no mortgage payment is very nice.

    • @wernermueller9004
      @wernermueller9004 2 года назад +2

      @@jerrodlopes186 Yup...and the homeowner's insurance.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 года назад +1

      @@jerrodlopes186 I live in a $500K home with no City property tax,
      $100/yr 911 service, $600/yr public school, $100/yr State roads +
      $900/yr home insurance.
      That's ~$1700/yr

    • @erickla7796
      @erickla7796 2 года назад

      @@aolvaar8792 teach me

  • @jawsgreatwhite9966
    @jawsgreatwhite9966 2 года назад +67

    Having my house paid off and both my cars gives me incredible peace of mind. It’s the greatest feeling to not worry about how much food or gas will cost due to rising inflation.

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад +1

      @@wordsalad01 regardless if your in debt or not! If you don’t have the income, your feeling it

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 2 года назад +2

      @@wordsalad01 exactly. With no mortgage and any other debt, it is peaceful.

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад +2

      @@wordsalad01 lol come on now lets be real! Let’s say you make 40k right! Debt or no debt, your goin to feel a pinch as prices continue to go up, so save me with that other bs you said! Cuz I never said if I was or wasn’t in debt and you don’t kno how much I make or don’t make

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад +1

      @@jml9550 Everyone doesn’t have a mortgage but with little income and no debt and prices goin up! It’s goin to effect you, lol y’all crazy

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад

      @@wordsalad01 ain’t nobody arguing! Having a simple convo just like everyone else

  • @RobotMowerTricks
    @RobotMowerTricks 2 года назад +6

    Oof.... depending on how old that guy is, paying off the house is a million dollar mistake by age 80

  • @om617yota8
    @om617yota8 2 года назад +12

    "Do you stand to benefit from giving us this advice" is fantastic! Well done, Dr. D. When I was first doing research about buying my house, I had a mortgage broker advise me to get the most house I could, and don't haggle on price. Wait a second there, you're a mortgage broker, of course you want me to get the biggest loan possible, because that's a bigger commission for you. I bought half the house I qualified for, very thankful.

  • @jimroscovius
    @jimroscovius 2 года назад +27

    I paid off my house a few years ago and it's awesome!!

  • @wackzingo
    @wackzingo 2 года назад +3

    What exactly is the cost of peace in this situation over say a 30 year period? About $2.5 million in his situation so if having $170k invest isn't enough peace then sure pay the house off but $2.5 million is a lot of money to pay for a little bit of peace now.

  • @klhecox
    @klhecox 2 года назад +9

    John starts the call writing with his left hand, but switches to his right hand… Just a funny observation.

  • @TheDougSpot
    @TheDougSpot 2 года назад +3

    Absolute horrible advice. It astounds me how stupid it would be for him to pay his house off with a 2% interest rate🤦🏾‍♂️
    Do you realize how much money you’re throwing away by doing that instead of investing???

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      Investing is stupid.

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot 2 года назад

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508
      If you believe that, then why are you watching these videos🤔

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      @@TheDougSpot Because the most important financial step is to have a paid off house.

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot 2 года назад +1

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508
      Yea, that’s the BS that he’s got you believing 😂😂😂

  • @kayrenallen7369
    @kayrenallen7369 2 года назад +17

    Pay it off! Save and pay cash for college!

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 2 года назад +9

    I paid cash for my home.
    No debt at all. So happy

  • @mathematician1234
    @mathematician1234 2 года назад +8

    Mr. Ramsey might ask you to reverse engineer this situation: Ask yourself, if you had no mortgage and $0 in the bank, and $400K income and no other debts, would you go out and borrow $170K using a mortgage, and put the $170K in the bank, and then have to pay $2,600 a month? If the answer is no, then kick this mortgage to the curb.

    • @bishikon
      @bishikon 2 года назад +1

      What happens when you do the math?🙃

    • @mathematician1234
      @mathematician1234 2 года назад

      Which math? I don't think it is a math question.

  • @NYNC88
    @NYNC88 2 года назад +4

    John's advice is worse than worthless. This has absolutely nothing to do with Broadway.

  • @ViralRivers
    @ViralRivers 2 года назад +4

    Ridiculous to give this blanket advice. If you are interested in owning multiple Properties at any point in the future, how does throwing away a 3 % interest rate to borrow money at a 7% help anyone. With rising interest rates, throwing away cheap debt for expensive debt is foolish

  • @bassandswitch6367
    @bassandswitch6367 2 года назад +10

    He makes enough money that as long as he is responsible, he really can't go wrong investing, paying off home

  • @karenjensen2345
    @karenjensen2345 2 года назад +25

    When my husband retired and moved to Florida we decided to ONLY buy a house we could pay cash for. Yes we have a smaller home but it is plenty for us! Less to clean. And we have never ever regretted it. We are free!!!!!

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +6

      Indeed.
      Also less wasted space to heat and cool. Many with unnecessarily big homes will understand soon.
      You don’t need to finance $50k for solar panels to save $50/mo. on energy bills.

  • @erikrohr4396
    @erikrohr4396 2 года назад +6

    I can't afford to avoid the math game like these folks do.

  • @craighendricks2994
    @craighendricks2994 2 года назад +3

    Another caller that just called to brag. 400k income and you don’t know what to do with the house or college fund? Give me a break dude.

  • @ryanmoores7726
    @ryanmoores7726 2 года назад +58

    Imagine somone telling you to not pay something off....

    • @Lon1001
      @Lon1001 2 года назад +5

      It already is paid off because the cash is there to cover it, so right now the risk side of borrowing is null and it's borrowing cash at a cheaper rate than you can get a guaranteed ROI.

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot 2 года назад +7

      Imagine telling someone to pay off a 2% loan instead of investing with a 8-10% return.
      Paying his house off would be the absolute dumbest decision to make.

    • @WeBeatMedicare6969
      @WeBeatMedicare6969 2 года назад +1

      @@TheDougSpot false lol….maybe…maybe not…you say 8-10% like it’s a given…you haven’t accounted for risk

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot 2 года назад +2

      @@WeBeatMedicare6969
      I’m quoting Dave Ramsey’s numbers.
      You just pointed out how idiotic his teachings are and didn’t even realize it😂😂😂

  • @cavemanlook
    @cavemanlook 2 года назад +6

    I played the 30 year game at 8%. I am so glad i am free an clear now .

  • @Dreamer-by4nk
    @Dreamer-by4nk 2 года назад +5

    Someone questioning paying off mortgage with an income like that?🤔🙄

  • @screwdriver_bandit
    @screwdriver_bandit 2 года назад +4

    Good for you man. But as a middle class blue-collar midwestern worker it blows my mind to hear how much money some people make. The vast majority of people do not and never will have ANYTHING close to that kind of income. I got into the wrong line of work.

    • @HappyPenguin75034
      @HappyPenguin75034 Год назад

      There is a lot of money - and you are wrong cast majority won’t. They do!

  • @eatpigsnot
    @eatpigsnot 2 года назад +16

    asking a lender if you should keep a loan is like asking a cattle rancher if you should go vegan

  • @DanielGarcia-zz9eg
    @DanielGarcia-zz9eg 2 года назад +8

    You make 400k
    Have 170k in savings
    Pay that home off.
    As for your kids, let them find a way to pay college.
    When they finish college, you can decide to help pay thier loan off.
    Not b4 , after.
    Kids u never know where they going in life. Make them work for it. So many opportunities today to make money at any age

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад

      There’s nothing wrong with them wanting to give their kids better advantages in life!

  • @lordjael
    @lordjael 2 года назад +3

    Buddy, college scholarships exists for excelled academic performance. They can earn one. If not, send them to college her in Germany. It’s free. No big deal. Pay the house off. 🎉

  • @mattmasteringer4399
    @mattmasteringer4399 2 года назад +12

    This guy is just flexing on how much he has in savings, how low his interest rate is and how much he makes. 💪

  • @coreyscott5655
    @coreyscott5655 Год назад +2

    Earning 400k a year do you even notice that 2k mortgage coming out!

  • @03c5z
    @03c5z 2 года назад +14

    There is no math that can justify paying off a 2% mortgage. It only makes sense from a peace of mind standpoint. I think thats where the decision comes down to the person. I've had a paid off home, but the though of lost opportunity cost bothered me more than a mortage and solid reserves.

    • @BorisBalinkoff
      @BorisBalinkoff Год назад +2

      Freeing up $2,600 per month is a pretty good reason.

    • @03c5z
      @03c5z Год назад +3

      @@BorisBalinkoff if you dont understand how to better utilize your capital and low interest debt freaks you out.

    • @bryanmoser358
      @bryanmoser358 Год назад +1

      Dave has addressed this issue multiple times. It's not about the math.

    • @03c5z
      @03c5z Год назад +2

      @@bryanmoser358 if your cashflow is in good shape and a loan doesnt stress you then you shouldnt pay off your home. Dave has a my way or the highway outlook and its not that simple. Its not called Daves finance, its personal finance. It has to be personalized to each individual.

    • @bryanmoser358
      @bryanmoser358 Год назад

      @@03c5z the problem with that line of thinking is that most people don't have the cashflow. Most people are living paycheck to paycheck. You also don't factor in exactly what investments people are taking and what the risk is. You also aren't factoring in stupid decisions, you are only looking at the math. If you can free up a mortgage fee, that's more to invest and you would only be losing out on 6 months maybe of compound interest, speaking specifically to this caller. If you are taking thirty years to pay off your home instead of making an extra payment every quarter and finishing off your mortgage by year 10-15, then you shouldn't be talking about the math because the large majority of people are a bunch of brokees by the time they retire with exactly zero dollars saved.

  • @annkrull9894
    @annkrull9894 2 года назад +1

    Freedom always come with a price....this advice is not great for every situation. If you have no steady replaceable income this advice is terrible.

  • @karenjensen2345
    @karenjensen2345 2 года назад +8

    Has anyone anywhere ever regretted paying off their house?

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +3

      I must have asked hundreds of people this since high school and I’m 51 now.
      Zero regrets.

    • @webfreakz
      @webfreakz 2 года назад +6

      as Dave would say: "You can always go back into debt"

  • @michaelristow2775
    @michaelristow2775 2 года назад +1

    Makes 400 K a year and only has 170 something thousand in the bank. Geez this guy needs to live below his means more and sharpen his pencil.

  • @Eagleknight815
    @Eagleknight815 2 года назад +4

    Dr John with a Happy Gilmore reference. Just tap that mortgage in. A little tap tap tap. 😂🤣😂

  • @SherryEllesson
    @SherryEllesson 2 года назад +15

    I'm a retired accountant, and I would have told this guy the same thing you guys did. Not all accountants/financial planners are idiots!

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 2 года назад +4

      Yep. That job or life could change. Pay that mortgage off and spend modestly and keep saving.

    • @sblijheid
      @sblijheid 2 года назад +1

      They're not idiots, they just have an agenda that's not in their client's best interest.

    • @SherryEllesson
      @SherryEllesson 2 года назад +1

      @@sblijheid That's the difference between an accountant/advisor who feels a fiduciary responsibility and one who doesn't.

    • @SherryEllesson
      @SherryEllesson 2 года назад +1

      The agenda should be educating and protecting the client. Full stop.

    • @Nick-gk6hj
      @Nick-gk6hj Год назад

      And your situation is 100% of the time different 15 or 30 years from the day you signed that mortgage agreement. That's a guarantee.

  • @soni05131
    @soni05131 2 года назад +5

    pay off mortgage

  • @Recovering_Californian
    @Recovering_Californian 2 года назад +7

    With inflation right now that 170k in savings is dwindling fast. Better to pay off the house. Kids will be fine. Lots of folks work/study at the same time.

    • @godfathaofyo
      @godfathaofyo 2 года назад +2

      With inflation right now.... a 2% interest rate, on the value of the dollar from a year or two ago.....it would be FOOLISH to pay off. Inflation actually helps Debtors

    • @Lon1001
      @Lon1001 2 года назад +1

      With inflation right now, mathematically, paying off the house is actually going backwards.

  • @neilsmith9066
    @neilsmith9066 2 года назад +10

    The calls where people are making over 200k a year are really driving this show down. These people are so dumb I guess they just stumbled on a career position where they make half a mil a year..... ridiculous

    • @godfathaofyo
      @godfathaofyo 2 года назад

      or perhaps just realize what the cost of living is in certain parts of this country. I wish i lived somewhere where a house cots me $50-$100k....and a 15 year mortgage is reasonable. Many middle class suburbs around me. $500-$600k fixer uppers....

    • @donjohnson1416
      @donjohnson1416 2 года назад

      Yeah, Yer just soooooo much smarter than everyone. Feel better now shaming someone else?

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +1

      Most are hired for their knowledge and skills not balancing their personal check book.

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 2 года назад

      @@blackworldtraveler3711 exactly.

    • @reese85
      @reese85 2 года назад

      It’s household income ppl! That’s means more than one income

  • @tomw485
    @tomw485 2 года назад +2

    This guy is trying to save for his kid’s college, only has a 2% interest rate mortgage and they’re advising he pay it off now?! He can get double that return on T-Bills!
    People should do whatever they feel is best for their personal situation but this is lunacy to me.

    • @tomw485
      @tomw485 2 года назад +1

      @@slmunney7760 Unfortunately it sounded like he was searching for a reason to pay it off now. My guess is he went ahead and wrote that 170k check and now feels warm and cozy inside totally oblivious to the opportunity cost of his actions.

    • @SasiKutti
      @SasiKutti 5 месяцев назад

      Won't the tax on the income from the T-Bills plus the inflation almost wipe out the difference? Would investing in an S&P 500 index fund which has an average return of 10% might be better? Asking because I am in a similar quandary.

    • @tomw485
      @tomw485 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SasiKuttiI was mostly just pointing out the savings interest rate as an example as to why paying off a low interest mortgage early makes no financial sense but you should probably also be investing in broad market index funds.
      It really depends on your income and location as well. But before I get into it I first have a to say that inflation is completely irrelevant in this scenario. Yes the purchasing power of the dollars and cents of your returns do get lower with inflation. However the value the of money owed on the loan is also weakening by the same rate. Inflation is your friend when it comes to owing money with a fixed rate loan. And the longer the payment terms the better. Would you rather owe 100k now or 100k 20 years in the future when that 100k is closer to 60-70k in today’s dollars? Point is it’s a wash in this comparison.
      But let’s the do math. Let’s say you have a 250k mortgage at 2.5%, your household income is 100k and you live in a no income tax state like Texas. 2.5% is $6,250 interest owed on the loan per year but you can expect to reasonably get a 5% return with T-bills and some high interest savings accounts which equals $12,500 cash flow. Using a tax calculator your additional tax bill on that $12,500 is $2,460. So doing the math take $12,500-$2,460 tax -$6,250 mortgage interest = $3,790 net. If you’d rather be $3,790 wealthier don’t pay off your mortgage.
      Now let’s say you make $500,000 in San Francisco and have a 1 million dollar mortgage. Your mortgage interest at 2.5% is $25,000. The interest earned at 5% of a million is $50,000. The additional taxes owed on that additional 50k interest income in CA would be $18,675. Doing the same calculation that’s $50,000 interest income - $18,675 tax - $25,000 mortgage interest = $6,325 net. So even a high salaried person in a high tax area still makes money by not paying off their mortgage at 2.5% interest.
      Now would investing in the S&P500 be a better return over many years? Yes very likely. However experts are projecting closer to a 8% average annual return (some as low as 6%) in the S&P moving forward and the market is near all time highs currently after a historically good 15 year bull run. There’s a chance that if you were to take that full chunk of cash and put it all in the market right now you might yield well below 8% or even negative returns for the next couple of years (not guaranteed of course…. No one knows what the market will do in the short term. In the next year it could jump 20%, lose 20% or move sideways for all we know). The most prudent way to enter the market is to dollar cost average by contributing that money into a fund in small chunks over even intervals. So let’s say you have 250k cash. One strategy could be to put 5k a month in an S&P index fund over the next 4 years until it’s fully invested (or maybe until you 3-6 months living expenses left in savings). However before contributing any money to the market I’d first put it all in a high yield savings account so you’re already earning 5% on your cash from the get go. Then start your monthly contribution into an S&P index fund. This is actually very similar to my current investment strategy.
      The specific amounts, intervals and timelines aren’t set in stone and you should set that based on your own financial situation and future plans. Your age plays a big factor too. The older you are you want less risk and volatility so maybe you want to keep a larger portion in high yield savings and have less market exposure.
      I know I wrote a lot but hopefully this gives you some ideas as you decide how to best deploy your cash. But if you haven’t done it already at least park your cash in a high yield savings account getting you at least 4-5% interest as you decide on your specific strategy. That part is a no brainer. It will be FDIC insured and you’ll be free to withdraw it any time while enjoying pretty healthy returns. And don’t be in too much of a hurry to put your cash in the market or any other investment vehicle. Take at few months and devise a well thought strategy. Bounce your plan off a financial advisor and really weigh out your options. Educate yourself and really become as financially literate as possible. And don’t make any rash or emotional decisions with your cash. Don’t blow it on a car or boat or some other luxury purchase either. Then you’re literally leveraging your home equity to buy expensive toys that will depreciate in value. The whole point of not paying off the low interest mortgage is because you want to optimize your wealth generation.

    • @SasiKutti
      @SasiKutti 5 месяцев назад

      @@tomw485 Thank you so much for such a detailed, informative answer. I'll use all these tips to put together a good investment strategy and invest my savings wisely.

  • @johnpublic5169
    @johnpublic5169 2 года назад +9

    I think if the caller would do some research on the word “mortgage” he’d be more inclined to get rid of it ASAP! The word comes from the French verb “mortir”, which means “to die”. People don’t go “get” a mortgage from a bank, they give a mortgage, or “death pledge” to repay the loan to the bank. The sooner you pay off your “death pledge”, the sooner you get your life back.

    • @slurpees8153
      @slurpees8153 2 года назад +1

      People shouldn't take out a mortgage and should pay it back as quick as possible because in the event that you die and are unable to make the payments (because you are dead) the bank will still be able to collect? Uh, that seems pretty fair to me. They won't collect your soul on the way out. Lol

  • @achievement84
    @achievement84 2 года назад +12

    6:2 That moment when Rachel realized she muted herself by accident.😂😂😂 Priceless. But she shook it off super well.

  • @NWforager
    @NWforager 2 года назад +4

    the mortgage will be Super Easy to pay off with Future wages .

  • @MrBraceface216
    @MrBraceface216 2 года назад +3

    I think the coolest thing is that he’s even thinking about paying for college for his kids

  • @oski632
    @oski632 2 года назад +2

    either way he will be ok, i have 45k left on mortgage at 4.25 percent and i am considering paying it off but would be left with like 20k liquid dunno if i want to go so low on cash

  • @eggsinsideme
    @eggsinsideme 2 года назад +6

    If you have a low APR in the 2-3% range, yes it’s idiotic to pay off the house.

    • @sblijheid
      @sblijheid 2 года назад +1

      And if he loses his job? We're in a recession.

    • @Louie_V71
      @Louie_V71 2 года назад +3

      What if he loses his job? All the more reason to keep the cash liquid and not prepay the loan. If he loses his job, he can make his mortgage payment for years with the cash, but if that cash is converted to equity in the home he won’t be able to get it without a job. This cash would allow for more options while he looks for another job.

    • @aaront936
      @aaront936 2 года назад +2

      @@sblijheid then he still has 100k. You can't eat a house.

    • @Nick-gk6hj
      @Nick-gk6hj Год назад

      It's psychological, everyone knows math. That's not the point.

  • @azteca6695
    @azteca6695 2 года назад +4

    They didn't ask if they had a retirement plan?

  • @teeduck
    @teeduck 2 года назад +1

    Tell your kids to pay for their own college. Problem solved

  • @JLa7257
    @JLa7257 2 года назад +3

    Pay it off! We did and it's great to have no mortgage. ♡

  • @ranger2316
    @ranger2316 2 года назад +2

    I'm retired with two good pensions and two social security coming in every month, with a 401K and savings. I have no consumer debt, pay all of my bills ever month. My home payment, including tax and insurance is about $1600 per month. I am comfortable with the payment. I see no particular benefit paying out my 401K and savings to pay off my remaining mortgage. I just don't see how it will materially change my life.

  • @djpuplex
    @djpuplex 2 года назад +5

    Ramsey math still works in California. Also Ramsey we don't play that math game.🤷‍♂️

    • @donjohnson1416
      @donjohnson1416 2 года назад

      Your DRAMA is what doesnt work. Get over yourself drama queen

    • @hulenbryant5637
      @hulenbryant5637 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, that one kind of got my attention, because they do play math games. They may have a different philosophy, but it's still math

  • @jvhomebuying910
    @jvhomebuying910 2 года назад +1

    your money today is worth more then your money tomorrow keep your money and put it to work let the bank manage your payments.

  • @plants4thewin
    @plants4thewin 2 года назад +3

    John is starting to get on my nerves. "Can I tell you what Im doing in MY HOUSE" 🙄 A lot of cutting people off too, cut off the caller cut off the co-host.

    • @donjohnson1416
      @donjohnson1416 2 года назад

      Yer free to not watch. Not sure anyone has a gun to your head making you watch.

    • @plants4thewin
      @plants4thewin 2 года назад

      @@donjohnson1416 I think we all know that, but thanks for your contribution, Captain Obvious.

    • @Lon1001
      @Lon1001 2 года назад

      John just spouts Ramsey talking points, he's not great at really understanding people's finances. He is good at understanding the emotional side of people under stress, duress or in a crisis.

  • @martyhen
    @martyhen 2 года назад +4

    Have to believe in math or Dave; cannot pick both. Freedom is having more money imho, not less.

    • @xfhnhhgjbvcfg
      @xfhnhhgjbvcfg 2 года назад

      How is the math better not following Dave? I'm down 20% on my investments lol.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      Did you mean 'and' instead of 'or'?

    • @martyhen
      @martyhen 2 года назад +1

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508 No. Can only pick one, math or Dave. As they mention in the video "we are not following the math and making a decision based on feelings"

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      @@martyhen No. Your sentence should be "Hard to believe in math AND Dave." Meaning it's hard to believe both. "Hard to believe in math or Dave" means you cannot believe either one.

    • @SnakeHandler-g7u
      @SnakeHandler-g7u 2 года назад +1

      Right, her argument is emotion based because it feels good to have no mortgage. The "math games" aren't games, they're just math!

  • @IgoOutlateAtnight
    @IgoOutlateAtnight 2 года назад +14

    Brag call. $400k income how do these questions even come up?
    Answer. Brag call.

    • @jimmymcgill6778
      @jimmymcgill6778 2 года назад

      How much he makes in not the point.

    • @IgoOutlateAtnight
      @IgoOutlateAtnight 2 года назад +1

      @@jimmymcgill6778 you must not be a math fan. This call is completely different if he only makes $10k a year. $400k income any issue he brought up on this call will be done in a year...assuming he brings home $200k...

    • @donjohnson1416
      @donjohnson1416 2 года назад

      @@jimmymcgill6778 It is the point when yer full of DRAMA like Ryan is. lol

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +1

      @@IgoOutlateAtnight
      Call would be completely differently for anyone if he only makes $10k/yr.
      Even for my 16 year old niece who makes more than $30k/yr.
      Income growth is not directly proportional to being a math and financial genius for many. Just more financial wiggle room for screwups.

    • @jimmymcgill6778
      @jimmymcgill6778 2 года назад

      @@IgoOutlateAtnight Income is not the point.

  • @atdepaulis
    @atdepaulis 2 года назад +1

    Morgan Stanley is offering 3.1% on their savings accounts… I put my emergency fund there! You can get it out whenever you want to and still making something while it sits there

  • @andrewgeorgelang
    @andrewgeorgelang Год назад +2

    Just realized, watching two left handers at work. Thanks for sharing

  • @Emmere
    @Emmere 2 года назад +2

    Did he call for validation? He could’ve put a chunk towards the house and left some for emergency. And moved some of that money to a college savings account.

  • @Snacks1991
    @Snacks1991 2 года назад +3

    Pay that house off and start a college fund today

  • @gracenotes818
    @gracenotes818 2 года назад +1

    I bought my house for cash going into retirement. Best thing I could have possibly done. No more mortgage payments!

  • @ecole146
    @ecole146 2 года назад +2

    I love this channel, but getting sick of hearing problems from people who are in the 98th percentile in household income that are really not relevant to the vast majority of the show's listeners. This guy has a take-home income of over $9000/month. He has a mortgage payment on a pretty expensive house, but it's still only about 30% of his net take home pay - well within acceptable limits. Regardless of whether he pays this house off or not, he is going to be fine.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      The acceptable limit is 25 percent, it's not within that.

    • @ecole146
      @ecole146 2 года назад +1

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508 The acceptable limit is 25 percent of your GROSS income - $9000/mo is his net income after taxes so yes, it is still well within acceptable limits.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      @@ecole146 No it isn't. The acceptable limit is 25 percent of his NET income.

    • @joejohn.
      @joejohn. 2 года назад +1

      You think he only takes home $108k/yr on a $400k/yr gross income?

  • @aaront936
    @aaront936 2 года назад +2

    Do not throw away compounding growth to pay down a 2% mortgage rate. No amount of piece of mind is worth the opportunity cost you're throwing away.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      Incorrect. The peace of mind is worth more than the house itself.

    • @aaront936
      @aaront936 2 года назад

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508 learn how to do math throwing away millions isn't peace of mind.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад

      @@aaront936 I know exactly how to do math. Which means I can work out that the money I'm throwing away is money I don't need, want or will never have any use for.

    • @Nick-gk6hj
      @Nick-gk6hj Год назад

      Oh yeah, so smart because you know 10 is bigger than 2. We're arguing about 2 way different things. You're stuck in a box.

  • @johnSmith-uz8nl
    @johnSmith-uz8nl 2 года назад

    Forget everything.... HE makes $400k and has NOTHING but a paid off house????? Something does not make any sense at all.

  • @Yooyangs
    @Yooyangs 2 года назад +6

    Paying off the house, good advice. Paying for your kids secondary education… I believe they have to put skin into that game and most of it.

  • @g.b.5125
    @g.b.5125 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why does everyone feel they have to pay for their kids college? My parents did not pay for my siblings college and they all graduated from college in earn in the top 3% or earners.

  • @cardermedia
    @cardermedia 2 года назад +2

    'Having no-one who has their name on your paycheck' Love it.

  • @CarC369
    @CarC369 2 года назад +18

    Paying off low interest debt in a high inflationary environment is completely idiotic. 2.8% is a great rate. Keep that cash liquid and invest while paying down debt with cheaper dollars in the future.

    • @gsyarber
      @gsyarber 2 года назад +5

      So correct. This show gives horrible advice!!!

    • @joelfenner9179
      @joelfenner9179 2 года назад +8

      Or you pay off the mortgage and have a peace of mind that if you lose your job or some other financial catastrophe occurs, you don't have debt hanging over your head. It's not idiotic, just some people cannot handle the stress of taking higher risks. If you can handle dealing with that kind of stress, then don't pay off the house and go invest. But many people (including myself) value "peace of mind" more than money lost on investing.

    • @richard77231
      @richard77231 2 года назад +7

      In a high inflation environment, that savings is going to be worth less and less over time.

    • @handheldgarage3297
      @handheldgarage3297 2 года назад +1

      wrong show for that advice

    • @David.D3
      @David.D3 2 года назад +2

      Paying off the house guarantees the balance goes to zero. Also the house is his home, not an investment.

  • @BobbyMucka
    @BobbyMucka 2 года назад +11

    Rates the way that they are, paying off that house is a mathematically horrific decision. He could have even invested that money in Treasury or municipal bonds and made double the money that he would have saved in interest. Treasury bonds are considered risk free too so its the closest thing to a guarantee you can get.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 2 года назад +1

      Get rid of the mortgage at all costs.

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot 2 года назад

      @@amireallythatgrumpy6508
      I’m sorry, but you’re an idiot if you think it’s a good idea for him to pay off a 2% mortgage🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @jiangpkpful
    @jiangpkpful 2 года назад +7

    But now is also a great time to invest in mutual funds (for college savings, which is actually one baby step before paying off mortgage). They should front load some 529 now, maybe 50k or 30k especially for their younger children who still have a lot of time before college. Then they can apply the rest to the mortgage, and continue to save and pay it off quickly.

    • @charlescron1454
      @charlescron1454 2 года назад +4

      Well stated. I find this show demands strict adherence to the baby steps from its listeners, but then ignores those same baby steps whenever it suits its own purposes. At his income the caller could always pay off his mortgage in the near future, so it wouldn’t hurt to “plant some seeds” in his kids’ college funds now and “watch them grow.”

  • @kevinkidneyy
    @kevinkidneyy 2 года назад +1

    stop posting these videos . "HI i have 500k and I make 150K can I pay my 25k house off" like why

  • @ytr8989
    @ytr8989 2 года назад +1

    Pay it off.

  • @michaelvan6675
    @michaelvan6675 2 года назад +16

    I regret not paying my house off.

  • @calebdoner
    @calebdoner 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you ever miss the mortgage, you can always go fet another one. Classic!

  • @billyh.9497
    @billyh.9497 2 года назад +4

    With a paid off home I agree that it is nice to have no home payment. I did not have a 2% rate though and with treasury rates higher than that why pay it off? There is not an investment risk and you are earning more than spending.
    Ramseyish here

  • @oldhag2881
    @oldhag2881 2 месяца назад

    If he pays it off, he can cash flow college. But none of his kids are close to college. He has time. If he waits, and the bank goes belly up, he still has a mortgage.

  • @minni1094
    @minni1094 Год назад

    Terrible advice, that dude clearly had anxiety about paying off his house so fast.
    Why not give him a 6 month time frame to pay it off. That way he doesn't deplete his saving or have more anxiety about having so little money in the bank.

  • @xyzxyz4575
    @xyzxyz4575 Месяц назад

    just borrow yourself money to pay your mortgage off, you owe youself money! you paying youself back and thats it!

  • @luisvigo3777
    @luisvigo3777 2 года назад +1

    Man is just calling to brag

  • @cosmomontanaro5759
    @cosmomontanaro5759 5 месяцев назад

    There is no way his accountant insisted he not pay off his mortgage, unless the interest was for some odd reason fixed well below CD rates.

  • @anthonyschneider8835
    @anthonyschneider8835 2 года назад +1

    Don't listen to any of them. Instead invest all of it into Gamestop Call options.

  • @Treerootz1
    @Treerootz1 2 года назад +3

    So it’s not about money it’s about feelings

    • @abark
      @abark 2 года назад

      the show is for women, so of course it's about fee fees

    • @abark
      @abark 2 года назад

      the show is for women, so of course it's about fee fees

  • @abark
    @abark 2 года назад +4

    could buy a 10 year CD with the cash and earn more than double the interest on the mortgage, and still have the "peace of mind" of having the mortgage balance available.

    • @leemp337
      @leemp337 Год назад

      John has drank the Ramsey kool-aid

  • @kckuc310
    @kckuc310 7 месяцев назад

    You should not , you make 5 percent in saving on your money. Your college for kids comes last

  • @texdevildog9174
    @texdevildog9174 Год назад +5

    We followed Dave's plan and paid off the house in 2016. We have never missed the monthly mortgage payment. The amount of money that piles up, even after maxing out our retirement accounts, is ridiculous.

  • @Mikeycrudd
    @Mikeycrudd 2 года назад

    Wow. 400k income and is worried about a 170k mortgage. People amaze me

  • @baldhero6850
    @baldhero6850 2 года назад +4

    Paid if my car asap. Best feeling in the world not paying 450 a month and saving it

  • @MariuszChr
    @MariuszChr Год назад

    Very shallow math. Risk is also math, but its not accounted here...

  • @AdrianMcDaid
    @AdrianMcDaid Год назад

    Paid mine off. In my mid 40's now I have F*CK you money. It's great.

  • @BeefEnt
    @BeefEnt 2 года назад +5

    No debt king here lol
    Thanks for the video 📹

  • @nickvazquez5082
    @nickvazquez5082 8 месяцев назад

    I’d rather pay it off rather than giving the bank 2% more on interest.

  • @BobEberlingMusic
    @BobEberlingMusic 2 года назад +5

    BIG fan of Ramsey for the majority of people but this guy needs to listen to his accountant in this case-- he has too high of an income for this advice to be relevant from a tax perspective

  • @Psuedo-Nim
    @Psuedo-Nim 8 месяцев назад

    In this call, with a 12 year old and a 6 year old with no savings, financing a 529 plan instead of paying off the loan is the best course. Two percent rate. Telling him to pay it off is wrong. That same money, but in a 529 plan, with a conservative safe return rate of just 6 % nets him 258, 463 dollars. His mortgage payment for the house, not the escrow is probably around 2100; the property taxes and insurance won't go away. That money, same investment, nets $218,555 over 7 years. The pay it off early advice cost at least 40,000 dollars, plus 7 years of mortgage interest tax deductions.
    Believe the financial adviser with a fiduciary duty to the client who has greater knowledge of the situation than napkin based calculations over representatives for a for-profit company selling financial services.

  • @oldhag2881
    @oldhag2881 2 месяца назад

    Stupid advise. If he pays it off, the interest rate is 0%.

  • @HHHPedigrees
    @HHHPedigrees Год назад

    Make your kids pay for their own college. Why do people feel they have to help your kids pay for college?

  • @Crabfat809
    @Crabfat809 4 месяца назад

    I think this is favourite Ramsay call. A bloke open minded trying to understand the best thing to do and a well rounded, well articulated response summarising why getting rid of the mortgage is a wise thing to do. The gentleman is now well informed on the options. Be good to have a follow up with him to see what he decided to do 😊