China's "ghost" railway stations prompt questions about rapid expansion of high-speed network

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @LeonLoukeris
    @LeonLoukeris 4 месяца назад +766

    The high-speed network in China was never about being profitable, it was about connecting the population and generating business, plus the insane traveling period of New year. they believe in infrastructure first and then creating business. Some of the stations are abandoned, but they have no issue renovating them and getting them going in a few months. That's China.

    • @cyberkoh
      @cyberkoh 4 месяца назад

      真的很幼稚,既然敢用华裔记者,如果西方国家聪明的话是绝不会招聘华裔记者,她们只会忽悠西方人,向西方世界说谎。因为这些华裔记者为了在西方国家获得自己的利益故意宣传符合西方想要的中国资讯,这样就能迷惑西方国家对中国的误判,这就是为什么中国近年来快速发展,反而西方世界还没有发现。请记住,绝对不能相信任何背叛自己民族的人,这种人不可信。希望西方人民多来中国亲眼看看,别被那些华裔记者蒙骗了😊😊

    • @vance3391
      @vance3391 4 месяца назад +31

      Every project is about corruption 😂

    • @chenghonggoh4746
      @chenghonggoh4746 4 месяца назад +22

      @@LeonLoukeris I guess that is the same reasoning for the overbuilt housing, creating supply and waiting for the demand later.

    • @moonootoo
      @moonootoo 4 месяца назад +21

      China specialises in Ghost Towns, Ghost Housing and now Ghost Railway Stations

    • @victorchan9581
      @victorchan9581 4 месяца назад +8

      What if things don't go as planned? Look at all those white elephant projects in Africa... Want a closer example? Look at the zmh bridge... No hope of recovering the building costs, just hope that we don't need to pay for the maintenance...

  • @theolich4384
    @theolich4384 4 месяца назад +354

    Looked it up and China had 5,544 HSR stations by 2022. Twenty something sit unused or underutilized prompts the BIG QUESTION, that the system might be unsustainable! What sort of quality journalism we're seeing from CNA here, again?

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 4 месяца назад +10

      Half past six?

    • @markuc
      @markuc 4 месяца назад

      US NED funded propaganda masking as journalism. That's what you are seeing here.

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 4 месяца назад

      How many abandon or under utilized US military bases around the world? Thats why the US has ZERO HSR.

    • @josephkelly5218
      @josephkelly5218 4 месяца назад

      CNN regularly lie about China, Russia and other countries. Why? Because they are not free press, they are closely censored. There is no future for a journalist who does not toe the party line

    • @benjaminlamey3591
      @benjaminlamey3591 4 месяца назад

      probably upon request of anti HStrain capitalism ... HSTrain can only work properly in a country wide public system, else it is a mess. that is absolutely against basic capitalist rules.

  • @mdhazeldine
    @mdhazeldine 4 месяца назад +632

    Being from the UK, I think I would rather see good infrastructure built in advance and sitting unused for a while, than the situation we have, with a government that waits too long to build anything, then comes up with a plan, then scales it back and changes it to save money (but that wastes money) and then ultimately cancels it for decades, before realising they really do need to build it, but now it's going to cost double or triple what it would have done. China's only "mistake" is physically building the stations and lines too soon, but they were right to buy or reserve the land ready to build on when they did. I'm sure eventually these ghost stations will become useful.

    • @hengongchua6250
      @hengongchua6250 4 месяца назад +55

      They are building for the future. May not be used now, but in the near future when the nearby area becomes more populated the station is ready for operation.
      This is our Chinese government planning.

    • @mdhazeldine
      @mdhazeldine 4 месяца назад +23

      @@hengongchua6250 Planning is great, but things don't always go to plan and people don't always go where you want them to go, unless you force them (perhaps that's what your government does? I don't know). So there is a risk in building too much too early, that something turns into a white elephant. That's why I suggest purchasing/reserving the land, and perhaps even building the line, but not the station, until there is some proven demand.

    • @maggiechan33
      @maggiechan33 4 месяца назад +2

      Agree.

    • @NerdVenturesAbroad
      @NerdVenturesAbroad 4 месяца назад +23

      ​@@hengongchua6250 There is no such future. China's population is decreasing since 2022 and this decrease is rapidly accelerating after decades of one child policy. Many 2nd/3rd tier cities have massive economic problems and initially building out so much infrastructure at the same time also means that costly maintenance is necessary at the same time.

    • @timothychung4811
      @timothychung4811 4 месяца назад +11

      @@NerdVenturesAbroad How would you know without any evidential evidence given?

  • @MrBoliao98
    @MrBoliao98 4 месяца назад +150

    I once took the HSR from Xiamen to Shenzhen. I thought the station was way too big in Xiamen. Then when I queue up for the boarding, the queue length was half the station. Their infrastructure isn't overbuilt.

    • @PsychoSpiral
      @PsychoSpiral 4 месяца назад +4

      Wait until you had to wait in line during busy Chinese holidays. There's a reason why some stations are massive is to hold the thousands of people during those crazy times.

    • @rebeltheharem7028
      @rebeltheharem7028 4 месяца назад +2

      It is overbuilt, just in the wrong places. By the time these empty stations will be "developed" enough to use, they would have to rebuild them again after long period of no maintenance and disuse.
      Meanwhile in places where there too many people. They didn't build it good enough. I've been to both stations as well. They were pretty darn busy (and that was back in 201X).

    • @letsgowalk
      @letsgowalk 4 месяца назад +4

      I agree!
      I recently took a journey across China spanning multiple provinces. One of the most notable trips was from Dunhuang to Ürümqi, but there is no CRH station in Dunhuang. I had to take a bus all the way out to this super remote station in Jiuquan, Gansu in the middle of the desert with nothing around for miles. It seriously looks like Tatooine.
      When I first arrived, they were "swatting flies" (Chinese slang for lack of business), but as the time came closer for the train to arrive, the place was PACKED like sardines. Where the heck do the people come from? There aren't any sizeable cities of note within a 100 mile radius, with Dunhuang being the largest.
      So at least for this extremely rural part of the country, I would say that the CRH is being put to good use.

    • @Ryfael
      @Ryfael 4 месяца назад +1

      Did you not watch the video?

    • @tiowpengong9450
      @tiowpengong9450 4 месяца назад +1

      So you went to xiamen,did you went to one grand temple name hongshansi 鸿山寺not the other one name nanputuo. If you do try go to their underground
      carpark next time and you will get some ideal of their mentality.

  • @zafir7007
    @zafir7007 4 месяца назад +381

    You're from Singapore. 3,000 sq meters is huge for you.

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +25

      But your countrymen including you like to come to Singapore 😊😊😊

    • @zafir7007
      @zafir7007 4 месяца назад +56

      @@Scambuster491 Singapore is nice. But small. So space is a premium. China on the other hand is huge. So 3,000 sq meters is small. It's all relative.

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +25

      @@zafir7007 dude. 3000sqm is only a football field. Dumb dumb.

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад

      😁

    • @cashmerecat9269
      @cashmerecat9269 4 месяца назад +13

      @@Scambuster491 not only come..but keep their illegal money in Singapore..safe haven for corruptors..

  • @Hoo88846
    @Hoo88846 4 месяца назад +108

    I still don’t understand the concept of “ghost cities” or “ghost stations” in China. I’ve been to half of China and have taken high speed trains in many cities. I have never ever seen a single deserted “ghost city” or “ghost station”. Every corner of China I go to, there are always people, even in the middle of the night. Meanwhile, USA where I live does have ghost towns, such as the Calico Ghost Town here in California which is a deserted mine. Sure, there are stations where there are more people because they are in popular cities, while other stations have fewer people because they are small towns. It’s just like in Japan. Do you see how many of their train stations are literally creepy with absolutely zero passengers around for most of the day and look dilapidated? Now those are real ghost stations in Japan and real ghost towns in USA. Fukushima nuclear reactor accident resulted in ghost towns with high radioactivity. That’s real ghost town in Japan. But China doesn’t have such deserted abandoned ghost towns or stations. If you ever encounter one, let me know. Just because a city is at night with no many people on the streets and all of them at home doesn’t mean it’s a “ghost town”. I live in Los Angeles here. Why don’t you go film my neighborhood now near the Temple City and Arcadia area. It’s completely quiet with no people on the streets. You can call them ghost towns. You just choose to film some smaller towns in China with fewer residents and choose less busy times to film so that they look “ghost”. It’s just pure propaganda and completely untrue. Like I said, tell me which stations you mean by “ghost stations” and which towns are “ghost towns” and I would go visit them. They definitely have way more people than the ones in USA and Japan, the anti China propaganda countries funding these propaganda fake news channel.

    • @woonfaseng8737
      @woonfaseng8737 4 месяца назад +5

      have you seen your own brain????? u cant see yourself don't mean you dont have one.... or ?????

    • @chronotee
      @chronotee 4 месяца назад +2

      No need to go far.... Look at the recupating Forest city in JB

    • @hawkingdawking4572
      @hawkingdawking4572 4 месяца назад +1

      You are not supposed to use RUclips in China. 😂😂😂

    • @cancanjaker1620
      @cancanjaker1620 4 месяца назад +2

      There are ghost towns and cities. But you need to drive to them yourselves.

    • @adamsaciid4919
      @adamsaciid4919 4 месяца назад +2

      @@woonfaseng8737 why? cause he telling us the facts

  • @datianlongan5567
    @datianlongan5567 4 месяца назад +63

    China has to make a choice with the billions of trade surplus: buy more US treasuries or invest/spend in its own infrastructure. I think they made the right decision.

  • @michaeldoesfunstuff4992
    @michaeldoesfunstuff4992 4 месяца назад +232

    So what? China built hundres of high speed train stations and later found out that dozens of them were wasted. No one is perfect to plan ahead so precisely, and let alone this is a huge huge project. Other countries don't even have this opportunity to have some abandoned high speed train stations because they don't have any high speed train stations at all.

    • @AmauryJacquot
      @AmauryJacquot 4 месяца назад +10

      who knows, maybe they'll be useful in a decade or so

    • @Q_QQ_Q
      @Q_QQ_Q 4 месяца назад +14

      ​@@AmauryJacquotthey'll be useful sooner than people think .

    • @ericphua2359
      @ericphua2359 4 месяца назад +9

      Maintaining unused stations are a waste of money.

    • @00001111henry
      @00001111henry 4 месяца назад

      Fake news 📰 these reports lie. They go under construction rail stations.👎🏻 They block me answer the right questions.

    • @michaeldoesfunstuff4992
      @michaeldoesfunstuff4992 4 месяца назад +5

      @@ericphua2359 For such a huge project, no one is perfect to plan so precisely. Also, maintaining an unused small train station shouldn't cost lot money because there is basically no utility cost, no staff payroll and no garbage fee. Of course, there is some cost involved. If it is a big money sucking hole, they will bring it down to stop bleeding.

  • @szhou008
    @szhou008 4 месяца назад +70

    I just returned from 3 weeks vacation in China this Summer. Took trains from beining to xi'an -chengdu -anhui - Shanghai. Every train I took is almost 100% full. At each stop, many people get on and get off, but train remains almost full capacity. There are also many stand-only passengers.

    • @01tk69
      @01tk69 4 месяца назад +8

      Thanks for telling the true picture of China.

    • @rebeltheharem7028
      @rebeltheharem7028 4 месяца назад +1

      Has nothing to do with this story. Of course a popular train on a popular network will have lots of people. Its the stations built in low density area that are draining public funds.

    • @lewismay5909
      @lewismay5909 4 месяца назад

      @@rebeltheharem7028 Thing is people living in low density area still have rights.

    • @wanwan4715
      @wanwan4715 4 месяца назад

      I also took trains from HK to Guiyang and then Kunming this week. Trains full even in business and premium classes. I learnt that the Chinese government is losing money in high speed rail because the tickets are very cheap, but they consider it as a basic service to the people.

  • @GWC-h4t
    @GWC-h4t 4 месяца назад +587

    What CNA won't tell you: California spent $1 billion over three years to build a 500-meter high-speed rail viaduct. This is not a waste.

    • @lukasloh2509
      @lukasloh2509 4 месяца назад +42

      The problem in the US is bureaucracy and the mindset of some Americans who thinks that they don’t need a high speed railway because of incident like this. That it is a total waste of money for a car centric country. But then some Americans believed otherwise. Also, it is well documented in the media. In China, we wouldn’t know this things unless foreign media report it.

    • @jhchooo
      @jhchooo 4 месяца назад

      China is a failure of central planning and US is a failure of no planning.

    • @maggiechan33
      @maggiechan33 4 месяца назад +4

      Right.

    • @marcusrose5943
      @marcusrose5943 4 месяца назад +5

      Lol well since this is lie 🤣 I'll just laugh

    • @anti-bullingjames
      @anti-bullingjames 4 месяца назад +13

      ​@@marcusrose5943lie? I personally witnessed how that happened!!!

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +182

    China's railways are "welfare " for the people.
    Now almost all rural areas people are able move their goods/products to the town for sale , to have better life.

    • @woonfaseng8737
      @woonfaseng8737 4 месяца назад +6

      nonsense, only MRT / subway at best could be justified as built for welfare (within a city) , HSR network are meant to be economically sustainable as their load is across wide areas across a nation and building costs are usually fully or partly borne by local governments using unsustainable loans , not like MRT within a city

    • @woonfaseng8737
      @woonfaseng8737 4 месяца назад +1

      the earliest starting section of this clip clearly tried to explain the following under utilization caused by economic slowdown especially property sector plus covid, but comes to middle section the deliberate chosen closed/unused station, apparently closed as early as 2017 (hence totally unrelated to property market decline which as only obvious around or after 2021 or covid post 2020 ) . no wonder some people call singapore 's state media as china's branch of xinhua fake news agency. totally out to whitewash for Communist China

    • @chronotee
      @chronotee 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@woonfaseng8737yes that's the point .. They are treating people taking hsr like taking mrt

    • @Whataboutism-o8j
      @Whataboutism-o8j 4 месяца назад +5

      sorry but in China high speed rail is much more expensive than mid-speed rail. I lived in China for many years and I would definitely say that mid-speed rail is welfare and high speed rail is just for people who would pay much more to get to the destination quickly

    • @Whataboutism-o8j
      @Whataboutism-o8j 4 месяца назад +1

      In China high Speed rail is generally 3, 4 or 5 times more expensive than mid-speed rail.

  • @yu-jd5jg
    @yu-jd5jg 4 месяца назад +198

    For quite a long time I have been asking Singaporeans whether CNA, based in Singapore, is a Singaporean media outlet. I usually find its narratives often mirrored that of the Western anti-China MSM. If LKY were alive today, I don't think he would have allowed that

    • @xxoo-lp6vc
      @xxoo-lp6vc 4 месяца назад +1

      LKY turned in his...
      that tax use to pay for foreign interest

    • @chrismanchin
      @chrismanchin 4 месяца назад +26

      Agree

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +12

      Which part of it sounds anti China? 😂😂😂

    • @xcel5203
      @xcel5203 4 месяца назад +2

      It usually covers entire Asia .

    • @blackknight4996
      @blackknight4996 4 месяца назад

      @@Scambuster491
      Report something you don't know....don't bother to find out .... shot the arrow and set the target ....
      This is CNA, a very bad media

  • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
    @MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 месяца назад +79

    how much CNA has gotten paid by the USA?

    • @basque888
      @basque888 4 месяца назад +4

      CNA is financed and governed by Singapore government. Their Anti-Chinese reporting tells you more about the shift of the new Singapore government (post Lee dynasty).

    • @silusiano
      @silusiano 4 месяца назад +2

      You criticise China? You are paid by the US.
      You criticise the US? You are paid by China
      5 years old game.
      Can we move on?

  • @winsonip4447
    @winsonip4447 4 месяца назад +68

    Isn't the news about the similar 'ghosted' metro stops in the middle of nowhere a decade-old story? Now these former 'ghosted' metro stops have become the centers of thriving cities. Local government is following Beijing policies to invest large amounts of capital, creating infrastructure first and then guiding demand towards their policy goals.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад +3

      Not all of them. For every turnaround story there's like 3 or 4 more locales that aren't seeing the same success because Chinese buyers are tapped out.

  • @ahkiet99
    @ahkiet99 4 месяца назад +432

    bbc asia on mission again

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 4 месяца назад +22

      yes because your country is flawless and nothing mildly bad should be reported...

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 4 месяца назад +11

      @@lyhthegreat
      ​​⁠China still has a few hundred million rural migrants they expect to move to the cities
      Maybe they should just wait around until they need to build
      👇
      Roughly 40% of the 300 million Chinese expected to move into a city by 2030 will mostly be moving to smaller cities in the “chengzhenhua” system. Rather than migrating to cities, the cities will be built around them instead.
      Forbes

    • @kengsenchong4010
      @kengsenchong4010 4 месяца назад +9

      @@lyhthegreat One plan ad hoc, another plan for the future. The ancient Chinese adage still holds: 未雨绸缪 Make rain vest before coming thunderstorms & 要想富先修路 To enjoy prosperity, first build roads.

    • @kengsenchong4010
      @kengsenchong4010 4 месяца назад +7

      @@lyhthegreat I still remember during the economic downturn (1997 Asian financial crisis), Spore government went on an office construction spree. One Spore architect told me that this is to maintain employment rate and to prepared for future economic upturn. This is visionary.

    • @mypartyisprivate8693
      @mypartyisprivate8693 4 месяца назад +2

      Boohoo they disagree with my ultranationalism waaaaah Grow up

  • @danysl2008
    @danysl2008 4 месяца назад +162

    lol…..Singapore also built MRT and LRT stations that sit idled for years if not decades. Same logic, planning for future. Would be good for CNA for another piece on Singapore experience.

    • @opinionsmatter-xx4go
      @opinionsmatter-xx4go 4 месяца назад +6

      😂 oh really bot? Which one?

    • @chronotee
      @chronotee 4 месяца назад +1

      You really need to be sure.... utilisation of stations...omg even tuas link has peak period

    • @426dfv
      @426dfv 4 месяца назад +31

      @@opinionsmatter-xx4go bot? Can not do ur own research and expect others to tell you? How old r u now? Still need ur parents to feed you is it? Mount Pleasant station has been idling for how many yrs? Teck Lee LRT Stations since 2005?

    • @danysl2008
      @danysl2008 4 месяца назад

      ​@@opinionsmatter-xx4goAiyoh...check out Teck Lee LRT. The station was empty since 2005...almost 20 years.

    • @danysl2008
      @danysl2008 4 месяца назад +26

      Woodleigh MRT another example...mothballed for 8 years....

  • @johnchua9387
    @johnchua9387 4 месяца назад +119

    I am a true blue Singaporean. What is this so-called reporter trying to prove? What has China high-speed rail has anything to do with Singapore? You are just being nosy. Very disappointed about CNA wasting resources ( if she is even one) like this.

    • @woonfaseng8737
      @woonfaseng8737 4 месяца назад

      the earliest starting section of this clip clearly tried to explain the following under utilization caused by economic slowdown especially property sector plus covid, but comes to middle section the deliberate chosen closed/unused station, apparently closed as early as 2017 (hence totally unrelated to property market decline which as only obvious around or after 2021 or covid post 2020 ) . no wonder some people call singapore 's state media as china's branch of xinhua fake news agency. totally out to whitewash for Communist China

    • @lluow
      @lluow 4 месяца назад +35

      She’s parroting propaganda from her US master.

    • @xxoo-lp6vc
      @xxoo-lp6vc 4 месяца назад +6

      LKY turn in his...

    • @blackknight4996
      @blackknight4996 4 месяца назад +6

      This reporter is too young and pretty naive

    • @ttgleo957
      @ttgleo957 4 месяца назад +2

      You claim to be a true blue Singaporean. But you do not seem like a very intelligent one. If Singapore only reports on news that concerns Singapore, it would be very worrying.

  • @Nori-it6wo
    @Nori-it6wo 4 месяца назад +219

    I just returned from a 2 week vacation in China back to Europe. I must say that I would welcome some “ghost” places in China given the constant flood of human tide everywhere at almost all times of the day. China is certainly a very fascinating country!

    • @Lee-vb4vh
      @Lee-vb4vh 4 месяца назад +9

      Good point. Many countries would enjoy Overcapacity infrastructure than not. USA has very limited train transport because it's cheaper to fly, auto industry, highways, etc. Europe has great trains. May I ask for future predictions on Ukraine, Gaza, Iran, Phillipines or other conflicts? Cheers

    • @MRT-co1sd
      @MRT-co1sd 4 месяца назад

      In fact, Chinese are starting to move from the bigger cities to the ghost cities. But CNA won’t report this phenomena.

    • @711colonel
      @711colonel 4 месяца назад +8

      I agree. Too many people in China everywhere especially at tourist places… I wish there were less crowds 😂

    • @pensieri2596
      @pensieri2596 4 месяца назад +13

      @@711colonel Although Alipay did not work all the time when I was there (just came back this morning), I am fully enchanted by China’s rich history and cultural heritage, superbe gastronomy, super fast train’s stellar business class, and friendly people. Will visit other places next time 😊

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад

      The "ghost" part is more in the bank accounts. Chinese consumers cost the same to support but aren't spending as much anymore.

  • @yaokongqi
    @yaokongqi 4 месяца назад +266

    Chinese top official once said: build it first before the land getting less and more expensive. this is exactly why other countries like US can not make it happen.

    • @x0xyumingx0x
      @x0xyumingx0x 4 месяца назад +26

      But they never tell you they can own your land without paying you what you deserve.

    • @cloudwithwind574
      @cloudwithwind574 4 месяца назад +7

      @@x0xyumingx0x are you kidding?

    • @x0xyumingx0x
      @x0xyumingx0x 4 месяца назад +7

      @@cloudwithwind574 Not kidding they did it before during the Culture Revolution and during the early stage of the nation development in the 90 to possibly now too

    • @kolviczd6885
      @kolviczd6885 4 месяца назад +15

      @@x0xyumingx0x People like you still think China is still in cultural revolution and in 80's.What's the problem with you guys??

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад +1

      The strategy assumes the surrounding land will become wanted in the future, which doesn't always happen. Meanwhile the operation and maintenance costs have to be paid.

  • @jamesteo5602
    @jamesteo5602 4 месяца назад +54

    The title is very misleading, and the reporting is not factual. Can you tell us 26 out of how many total no of stations are not being used?

    • @dansayeyo
      @dansayeyo 4 месяца назад +6

      A media is trying to find flaw out of a flawless country, but you one up that by asking why did you guys have misleading title, since it takes up your strong thumb muscle to google the answer out, i give you the answer right at this moment, its 20something/1000 stations. Now go on your day and live happily ever after.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 4 месяца назад

      Those are probably stations planned for future expansion of communities. It is called long term planning. you don't build to satisfy a need, you build to satisfy a projected growth. Long term planning gets you unlimited real estate to build what you want in contrast to building too late and shoehorning a station where there are no more available space and building it means you would be disturbing the whole community around it.
      This media outlet does what they always do, spin a negative to a positive story.

    • @jackoneill28
      @jackoneill28 4 месяца назад +5

      "China had 5,544 HSR stations by 2022." Some dude looked it up.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 4 месяца назад

      China Mass production of station designs. So the price is 60% cheaper

    • @jeremyk4276
      @jeremyk4276 4 месяца назад

      😅​@monipenny408

  • @dokinglife
    @dokinglife 4 месяца назад +64

    Why CNA journalists always fussing over China on very minor issues and not reporting REAL HONEST news happening in US or UK or Israel? They are also many MRT stations in Singapore with very very low daily commuters, would you consider these MRT stations wasted investment?

    • @jesuisrobert808
      @jesuisrobert808 4 месяца назад

      Someone has to report on China because CCTV just reports good stuff propaganda. You want to live in an alternate world or reality? What's wrong with showing you with video how things are? Do you not believe your eyes?

    • @Kingofthehill84
      @Kingofthehill84 4 месяца назад +4

      26 high speed rails stations has been closed due to low commuters and has $800b of liability and most of the high speed rails stations does not make any profit sound like a great investment until China goes bankrupt 😅😂

    • @narmortein537
      @narmortein537 4 месяца назад +1

      This little Red Dot is more like BBC and is looking for a big trouble ..

    • @casab654
      @casab654 4 месяца назад

      Don’t you know SG dump huge investment in China ? It’s kinda lose or profit ?

    • @speedbirdconcorde001
      @speedbirdconcorde001 4 месяца назад

      Of course, they failed by closing the KTM line instead of double-tracking & electrifying like the KCR/East Rail in HK, now they have to make it up by building the Jurong Line and the RTS, but they still built woodlands north mrt too far from the checkpoint which means the RTS has to curve instead of going straight

  • @Danderman888
    @Danderman888 4 месяца назад +79

    China looks at infrastructure development as part of the preparatory process rather than the end result of urban development, like most others would.
    Most who have played SimCity or its other derivatives will understand that concept.
    This is the hallmark of planned urbanisation rather than most of the haphazard way urbanisation is done elsewhere, like a patchwork quilt in execution.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад +1

      Unfortunately an Infinite Demand Mod isn't a part of reality.

    • @burung81
      @burung81 4 месяца назад +6

      recalled decade agos the news is calling ghost town like Dong guan, now it is 7-8 milions population.

    • @brianjones7660
      @brianjones7660 4 месяца назад

      Planned population decline due to a One Child policy that still holds the Lie Flat generation despite 3 Child exhortations.

    • @johntang4108
      @johntang4108 4 месяца назад

      You are right. No pain no gain. Western countries only looking for short-sighted profit-making projects. China plan ahead of time and benefit the people at large instead of serving the few millionaires who rip the wealth and land of the poor.

    • @rebeltheharem7028
      @rebeltheharem7028 4 месяца назад +1

      I agree with this, but they build the stations too early. By the time they are in demand, it might be 30-40 years before some of the stations are developed enough to need usage. By then, you would probably need to rebuild the stations again from all the decay from under use.
      Many of those places are in area that aren't slated for economic or urban development.
      While its a good idea to build infrastructure ahead of expected use, infrastructure does have a maintenance cost, and the maintenance cost can very well exceed the cost of building it at the time when its actually needed.
      That being said, I do think making a rail network connect all major commercial and tourist cities in China is a good thing in general. I certainly took advantage of it when I was touring China back in 2015.

  • @chriswong3972
    @chriswong3972 4 месяца назад +107

    No need to belabour the point the mistakes were made. It is better to have people-focused infrastructure that grows the economy, than to have none (and complaining about how expensive it is), and point towards failures that don't make a dent in the entire network. The title of this video seems to indicate that CNA is trying to toe the Western propaganda line while not actually not.

    • @adamcylee
      @adamcylee 4 месяца назад

      So, you are Chinese communist line?

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад +3

      It's not growing the economy though. Passengers and mail don't pay that much, so they're just wearing down metal going such high speeds at half capacity so frequently. The story would be a lot different had China Rail built them as freight lines instead or in parallel, as hauling cargo is far more profitable and would greatly help reduce the number of overloaded trucks on China's roads.

    • @1ewi5
      @1ewi5 4 месяца назад +4

      @@doujinflip If you understand how important productivity is in economics terms, you will be making more informed statements.

    • @nurrizalahmadimran4005
      @nurrizalahmadimran4005 4 месяца назад +4

      @TeeHee-vo1bn "Overcapacity".. you must be living in one of the Western countries to use such terminology.

    • @dps2933
      @dps2933 4 месяца назад

      @@doujinflip Mordern passenger train and freight line should be separated. Freight line require very strong foundation and high fire security. Passenger line required fast speed and low head

  • @thomasrogers9146
    @thomasrogers9146 4 месяца назад +67

    I AM AN AMERICAN AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS FALLING APART. A NATION DOES NOT INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE MONEY. BECAUSE OF CHINESE WORLD CLASS INFRASTRUCTURE CHINA IS NOW THE WORLDS LARGEST TRADING PARTNER AND MANUFACTURING BEHEMOUTH. YOU NEED INFRASTRUCTURE TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL AS A MANUFACTURING POWER HOUSE. OF WHICH CHINA IS.

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +9

      You are not American lah. You CCP netizen.

    • @Hkchinese888
      @Hkchinese888 4 месяца назад +8

      keep dreaming to be an American

    • @Ravage27
      @Ravage27 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Scambuster491he might be a joker lol. Bots are more sophisticated these days, see the AI-generated wall of text below for the REAL ones

    • @chanb9204
      @chanb9204 4 месяца назад

      Good bot.

    • @hawkingdawking4572
      @hawkingdawking4572 4 месяца назад +2

      You are not supposed to use RUclips in China. 😂😂😂

  • @playmusic3573
    @playmusic3573 4 месяца назад +127

    This reporter is western trained. 😂 A province in China is almost a size of european country. Such high speed rail network indicates the development level of a big country.

    • @ttgleo957
      @ttgleo957 4 месяца назад

      Stop trying to drag the West into everything.

    • @adamcylee
      @adamcylee 4 месяца назад

      So you are communist trained?

    • @lukasloh2509
      @lukasloh2509 4 месяца назад +4

      She stated the facts. The pros and cons. Had a resource speaker from Hang Seng Bank of China. You only heard the cons in her reporting and assumed she is western trained?

    • @lolzlatoz-ih4vv
      @lolzlatoz-ih4vv 4 месяца назад

      They have problems like this and population is slowing down.

    • @louis8743
      @louis8743 4 месяца назад +3

      Just what Victor Gao said..
      Only positive thing should be said in China...you can't criticised China,if you did criticised China it will sound like Western Hahahaha....
      WUMAO! 😂😂😂

  • @oceanwave4502
    @oceanwave4502 4 месяца назад +636

    When China wastes some money on infrastructure, it's bad. But when America wastes billions on defense ($900 billion defense budget per year), it's ok because they are the police of the world. 😂

    • @chronotee
      @chronotee 4 месяца назад +23

      It's not used it means it's not in use, no need to point others

    • @flicker9923
      @flicker9923 4 месяца назад +40

      The US can print money infinitely! 😂

    • @pbworld7858
      @pbworld7858 4 месяца назад +53

      Come on, this is CNA. What did you expect? Great high speed rail......................but at what cost?

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад

      Both are bad. Waste of money is waste of money. If you are chinese, you should worry about your waste of money rather than the American waste. Americas big advantage is that they can just print dollars. It's an unfair world. Hightime the world came back to gold.

    • @megatron6393
      @megatron6393 4 месяца назад +28

      Why are you so hypocritical? You condemn US wasting money on defence, but you defend China wasting money on unnecessary infrastructure. You should condemn both wastages, not selectively support China's wastages.

  • @Onglai88i
    @Onglai88i 4 месяца назад +25

    It’s despicable to find fault with a few unutilised train stations in China which have nothing to do with Singaporeans or the international community. Since CNA wants to get respected, then do the right thing to condemn Japan's dumping of radioactive water from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant into the ocean that is harmful to humanity, such serious matter CNA is not interested.

  • @yongdexin867
    @yongdexin867 4 месяца назад +60

    Your reporting is more like a fault finding mission. The moment you see one, you can't wait to make an issue out of it by multiplying it a thousand times.

    • @aiem
      @aiem 4 месяца назад +4

      CNA is from Singapore, what do you expect..

    • @ttgleo957
      @ttgleo957 4 месяца назад +2

      @@aiem And Singapore is a neutral country that reports the truth as it is.

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад

      CNA = Corrupt News Agency

    • @X-cript
      @X-cript 4 месяца назад +4

      @@ttgleo957 Singapore is indeed a neutral country but CNA is not owned by the government. It is a private entity funded by the US media to make false content

    • @kolviczd6885
      @kolviczd6885 4 месяца назад

      They are paid by you know who...😅 A country in the west have set a budget of $500 million to spread anti-China propaganda. You can imagine where those money are flowing to.. lol

  • @AyeAye-o8t
    @AyeAye-o8t 4 месяца назад +112

    The title of this video tells me more about CNA then China's railways.

    • @nayayelin-nk4hc
      @nayayelin-nk4hc 4 месяца назад +11

      ဤသတင်းတွင် တရုတ်နိုင်ငံ အမြန်ရထားစနစ်ဖွံ့ဖြိုးမှုအပေါ် စင်္ကာပူနိုင်ငံ၏ မနာလိုဝန်တူမှုကို တွေ့မြင်ရသည်။

    • @yenphung8809
      @yenphung8809 4 месяца назад

      CNA is US media.

    • @Ryfael
      @Ryfael 4 месяца назад

      ​@@nayayelin-nk4hcI wish I was as unintelligent as you sometimes

    • @silusiano
      @silusiano 4 месяца назад

      Your comment says more about your bias then the supposed one of CNA.

  • @stevey9282
    @stevey9282 4 месяца назад +29

    Well, it’s nothing surprising! Sg MRT had quite a few stations hold back for years too!

  • @wenoyang6571
    @wenoyang6571 4 месяца назад +113

    Small countries don't understand big countries, and small countries want people to live on every inch of land

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +12

      But big countries’ citizens love to move to small countries 😂😂😂

    • @reynaldolimesak6732
      @reynaldolimesak6732 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Scambuster491you mean US ?😂😂

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад +5

      @@reynaldolimesak6732 people from your country lor 😆

    • @yichengyan3383
      @yichengyan3383 4 месяца назад

      @@Scambuster491 yeah, losers from the big countries move to small countries, struggling to take your jobs

    • @jackychen5578
      @jackychen5578 4 месяца назад

      @@Scambuster491 是啊,一般都是快退休了的,因为没有任何欲望了,小国很安逸,再加上钱多没处花,被忽悠移居去小国也很正常,一千万人里有100个人被忽悠过去,那么14亿人都有一万四千人过去了

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 4 месяца назад +30

    Chinese person here. Two points: 1. Stations are built for peak travel, come back during Lunar New Year and National Day holidays, then let's talk about size. 2. Ever time Chines builds new high speed rail lines we get tha same hand-wring BS from Western Media (their includes CNA, Signgpore's CNN). Drive years on, when the lines hit thriller stride, your story changes.
    Have a Nice Day!

    • @Featherface01
      @Featherface01 4 месяца назад +1

      Your name about sums it up 😂

    • @rationalthinker2200
      @rationalthinker2200 4 месяца назад

      CNA when comes to Chinese infrastructure development sounds more like a mouthpiece of CNN or FOX narrative . Maybe China should instead of investing in infrastructure for its population ..be spend on increasing China s nuclear warheads stockpile to match US s nearly 6000 warheads...from its current estimated 500 ?
      Na..that is money well invested isn t it😅...

  • @Takealookat123
    @Takealookat123 4 месяца назад +13

    Transportation in China is super amazing. As i am living here almost 10 years i love China’s infrastructure

  • @buupyboopy9306
    @buupyboopy9306 4 месяца назад +65

    don't compare Indonesia with China...Indonesia is still under investment in infrastructure

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +12

      The “divide and conquer” strategy
      They use it on middle east , Europe and now Asia.
      This strategy is mostly attributed to the Anglo-Saxon(Uk U$ CAN AUS) diplomacy, they simply applied it most effectively through history.
      "This strategy, and all other strategies that try to weaken others so we could overcome them, rule over them, is the strategy of our inherently egocentric, self-serving nature, that thrives on succeeding at the expense of others."

    • @eddyr1041
      @eddyr1041 4 месяца назад

      Europe?... tgv etc is awesome❤

    • @Lee-vb4vh
      @Lee-vb4vh 4 месяца назад

      ​@@happymelon7129interesting info. Sounds like you have studied politics. May I ask for future predictions on Ukraine, Gaza, Iran, Phillipines or other conflicts? Cheers

    • @shgdjxhxb5906
      @shgdjxhxb5906 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Lee-vb4vhoh another chinese bot? 😢

    • @Lee-vb4vh
      @Lee-vb4vh 4 месяца назад

      @@shgdjxhxb5906 Are you saying I'm a Chinese Bot or HappyMelon7129 is one?

  • @eggheadegghead
    @eggheadegghead 4 месяца назад +16

    Let me get this straight, this video comes out in August 2024, the first “ghost station” was closed back in 2017, 7 years ago. That is just a closed station. We don’t call a closed station a “ghost station.” What kind of journalism is this?

  • @freemanol
    @freemanol 4 месяца назад +86

    it's normal for infrastructure projects not to succeed 100%. just look at the Berlin airport, which opened 14 years late and running multiple times overbudget

    • @kevink3688
      @kevink3688 4 месяца назад +5

      "normal"

    • @wmchan3364
      @wmchan3364 4 месяца назад +7

      Would it still be normal if every German city had a failed project like the Berlin Airport?

    • @luarbiasawaras8700
      @luarbiasawaras8700 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@wmchan3364its normal for the people of that city and the goverment

    • @Scambuster491
      @Scambuster491 4 месяца назад

      14 years late and over budget but there’s still passengers.

    • @Eggfriedriceagain
      @Eggfriedriceagain 4 месяца назад

      Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • @lifeisgood141
    @lifeisgood141 4 месяца назад +50

    So, as a "China expert", I am asking what the best way is to invest in its economy, if not on infrastructure like railways and stations. Buy more gold? Buy more dollars?
    Waiting for response from other "China experts and economists".

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад +2

      Buying gold is not a bad idea. But not buying dollars.

    • @满城風雪
      @满城風雪 4 месяца назад +2

      In the eyes of some people, national development and infrastructure always take commercial interests first. This is not China! In their eyes, sustainable social development and a prosperous life for the people are the ultimate goals of the Chinese government.

    • @gmil2573
      @gmil2573 4 месяца назад

      How about letting the Chinese people have the money they worked for and earned? Let the people control their resources rather than the state. Then perhaps China could expand its own personal consumption rather than using mercantilist policies on its trading partners.

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад

      @@gmil2573 the CCP would lose control. In MAOs time, power came from the barrel of a gun but today power comes from the tap of money.

  • @tanksbox6002
    @tanksbox6002 4 месяца назад +58

    CNA = CNN Asia

    • @JAdam301
      @JAdam301 3 месяца назад

      Exactly!

  • @426dfv
    @426dfv 4 месяца назад +19

    Can CNA do one on their abandoned MRT / LRT stations?

    • @Ak1m2
      @Ak1m2 4 месяца назад +1

      Rail can last hundreds-of-years! It's better to build now than later when cost will get higher & higher! Malaysia - Singapore High-Speed-Rail was an example how postpone & postpone make it no-more money to build as the material-cost kept increasing x2 x3! Furthermore, Rail compare to Airplane its more greener non-polluted & more economically and convenient in long-run as more cities will be mushrooming around it sooner, thus making city to cities connectivity in future much-much better than today as the Subway in Western-countries!

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад +1

      I think the shortest railway track in China is longer than Singapore map !

  • @huangzongming8226
    @huangzongming8226 4 месяца назад +15

    Amazing infrastructure.❤

  • @NorCalMoDo
    @NorCalMoDo 4 месяца назад +75

    While the "ghost stops" are deserted, the tracks are running, the trains are running. So, what's point to worry about the stops that does not deserve a slow down or a stop for the high speed train? And, a $2 Trillion economy in one province can cover the total debt of high speed rail network construction loans. Not to mention the high speed trains running between Beijing and Shanghai. The bottom line is, the travel speed from Beijing to Guangzhou is more important than a couple of wasted stations in Henan. Afterall, China Railway is ONE system under ONE government. re-balance the cost and re-distribution of the revenue can be managed under ONE office.

    • @skpracta
      @skpracta 4 месяца назад +7

      they barely can afford the interest from the loans, and dont forget the cost of maintenance of such infrastructure, which is a few times of the cost of building it.

    • @SK-lt1so
      @SK-lt1so 4 месяца назад +1

      Did your tax dollars pay for the empty stations?

    • @banyan8
      @banyan8 4 месяца назад +3

      @@SK-lt1so You can't look at P&L of a train station. You need to look at the big picture. The high speed railway benefits the economy along the rail lines and greatly improves passenger's travel experience or quality of life. The penny wise dollar full government and people don't understand this point. That's why the Circle Line has yet became a full circle after 12 years and there is no connection between Bt Panjang Station of Downtown Line and Yew Tee Station of North-South Line. If you live nearby, you will know the pain!

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад

      I think now the west is paying media worldwide to show the bad side of China !
      CNA is one of them. I never subs to this kind of corrupt people media channel.

    • @tweedy4sg
      @tweedy4sg 4 месяца назад +4

      @@skpracta "maintenance of such infrastructure is a few times of the cost of building, what is that "few" ? It must feel good for one's ego to be able to pull data out of the air without having to substantiate it to support one's argument. what a joke.

  • @wsmithe2209
    @wsmithe2209 4 месяца назад +32

    China is still in the process of fine tuning when expanding h speed railway network. China will figure out at the end what and what not to do. No need for western media like CNA to make negativity on it.

    • @mikestewart4752
      @mikestewart4752 3 месяца назад

      @@wsmithe2209 “Fine tuning” lol. Is that what you call it? Trains to Nowhere™️🤣💀

    • @wsmithe2209
      @wsmithe2209 3 месяца назад

      @@mikestewart4752 - You can make fun all you want, China is not going to stop. Chinese are building what best for them. Just like ghost cities, media made news out of it when cities were not ready for ppl to move in. Now, those so called ghost cities have ppl living in, shops and traffic in downtown. You don't see media going back there again.

  • @shancms
    @shancms 4 месяца назад +7

    Many foreign businessmen travelled in China, they knew advantages of high speed railway . CNA reporter is very idle travelled those unused stations.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +38

    Learn from China, Over the past 40 years, Lifting 800 Million People Out of Poverty.
    Infrastructure to every corner not making money for the politicians, just for the people to improve living.
    12-7-2021 Tibet’s first bullet train line enters service
    For the first time, travelers in Tibet can enjoy the area’s mountainous views at high-speed.
    A 435-kilometer (250-mile) rail line connecting Tibetan capital Lhasa with the city of Nyingchi entered into service on June 25, giving all 31 provincial-level regions of mainland China access to high-speed train travel.
    47 tunnels, 121 bridges
    Building a high-speed railroad in Tibet, dubbed the “roof of the world,” was no easy feat.
    Some 90% of the route, which took six years to construct, sits higher than 3,000 meters above sea level.
    The Lhasa-Nyingchi line features 47 tunnels and 121 bridges - which account for about 75% of the whole route. This includes the 525-meter-long Zangmu Railway Bridge, the largest and highest arch bridge of its kind in the world.

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад +4

      But why are you now going backwards for past 4 years? And no respite in sight? All those people you lifted out of poverty are slipping back into poverty. You can't rest on past laurels. What is happening now?

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +5

      @@isacr4063 the result ...
      Indian near Tibet:
      😭Tibet has 20 times bigger gdp per capita than my inddia 0ccupied tibet.

    • @AlejandroPikoulasPlata
      @AlejandroPikoulasPlata 4 месяца назад

      ​@@isacr4063 which are your sources?? You embarrassing.

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад +1

      @@happymelon7129 tibet is a free country under illegal annexation. Free tibet. I support Tibetan nationalism. A golden cage is still a cage. Why are you talking economy after entrapment and enslaving the Tibetan. Shame on you.

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад +1

      @@happymelon7129 Tibet is a free country under illegal annexation. Free tibet. I support Tibetan nationalism. A golden cage is still a cage. Why are you talking economy after entrapment and enslaving the Tibetan. Shame on you.

  • @basque888
    @basque888 4 месяца назад +28

    Didn't know Singapore government was this anti-Chinese till i watched a couple of CNA videos.

    • @yellowsheeps
      @yellowsheeps 4 месяца назад +7

      A SIngaporean media agency talking about infrastructure spending. Singapore is a former British Colony and functions with a "neo-liberal" economy. China is a Socialist Market economy. The Neo-liberal economic model hates China's Industrial Capitalism because in China money creation is used to serve the majority rather than the neo-liberal model which serves the 1% (they do nothing and live in a garden while others work and live in a jungle). What these types of Western programs always fail to mention is the CPC owns it's State Banks and money creation. This credit creation to spend domestically is entirely "internal". When China creates FIAT currency to pay for it's infrastructure development (this is the basics of Sovereign Industrial Capitalism), it does not owe anybody but itself (the CPC). That is, no one "external" is going to come demanding re-payment. As long as the money is spent to increase overall productivity (i.e. wages, lowering the cost of doing business), creating money from nothing to invest has no consequences. It's simply accounting; assets and liabilities. Neo-liberals want you to think otherwise because their model is "private" bankers creating the money from nothing and lending that money to Governments and others at interest and profit. They call this a Cartel.

    • @yellowsheeps
      @yellowsheeps 4 месяца назад +1

      A SIngaporean media agency talking about infrastructure spending. Singapore is a former British Colony and functions with a "neo-liberal" economy. China is a Socialist Market economy. The Neo-liberal economic model hates China's Industrial Capitalism because in China money creation is used to serve the majority rather than the neo-liberal model which serves the 1% (they do nothing and live in a garden while others work and live in a jungle). What these types of Western programs always fail to mention is the CPC owns it's State Banks and money creation. This credit creation to spend domestically is entirely "internal". When China creates FIAT currency to pay for it's infrastructure development (this is the basics of Sovereign Industrial Capitalism), it does not owe anybody but itself (the CPC). That is, no one "external" is going to come demanding re-payment. As long as the money is spent to increase overall productivity (i.e. wages, lowering the cost of doing business), creating money from nothing to invest has no consequences. It's simply accounting; assets and liabilities. Neo-liberals want you to think otherwise because their model is "private" bankers creating the money from nothing and lending that money to Governments and others at interest and profit. They call this a Cartel.

    • @Jade-ur5wh
      @Jade-ur5wh 4 месяца назад +4

      It’s has been all this while. Asia BBC.

    • @basque888
      @basque888 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Jade-ur5wh Are you Singaporean? is this the stance of new government since the Lee's Dynasties have gone? Watching their videos seem like they just tow the Western propaganda line.

  • @photonquantum4863
    @photonquantum4863 4 месяца назад +5

    So... The tiny Singapore is worrying about China who has a 13000 times bigger territory and 240 times bigger population.

  • @MidnightTheOne
    @MidnightTheOne 4 месяца назад +4

    Everyone silent over the reporter's self-driving taxi. China really invented time-travel, every time you travel to and from China, you're travelling to and from the future

  • @johnfernandis1872
    @johnfernandis1872 4 месяца назад +6

    Coming from a network from Singapore is really telling on CNA propaganda ! Singapore longest close LRT station is opening this year, 20 years after its construction. Singapore government says its advance planning. So what is so odd about China’s unopened stations ?

  • @howell5499
    @howell5499 4 месяца назад +8

    CNA thinks of profit first, if the government loses money you can accuse the government of wasting resources, but this is China, it is precisely because the government does not consider profit that everyone can enjoy the best infrastructure. Raise living standards for the benefit of all. Make every city connected. On the contrary, this is also the reason why the West has not built large-scale projects for many years, they are unwilling to invest a lot of money in low-yield projects

  • @uranus9-nn1tk
    @uranus9-nn1tk 4 месяца назад +16

    China-Laos high speed rail was termed as debt trap in Straits Times article. What's worse, ghost or debt trap? 🤣

  • @greentraveler4114
    @greentraveler4114 4 месяца назад +82

    Anglo Saxon style media: We prefer Uncle Sam's way of spending money on waging wars, promoting conflicts around the world under the concept of freedom, democracy.

  • @noahlee4764
    @noahlee4764 4 месяца назад +111

    Anglo Saxon news and their lackeys CNA buzz word at what cost 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ttgleo957
      @ttgleo957 4 месяца назад

      Yup anyone that dares say anything bad about China must be Western.

    • @pefsgk5092
      @pefsgk5092 4 месяца назад +8

      CNA is the mini CNN, BBC....

    • @hawkingdawking4572
      @hawkingdawking4572 4 месяца назад +2

      You are not supposed to use RUclips in China.

    • @adamsaciid4919
      @adamsaciid4919 4 месяца назад +1

      @@hawkingdawking4572 hhhh and who say he is chinese😃

    • @louis8743
      @louis8743 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@adamsaciid4919 obviously you are both Wumao. The never ending use "Anglo Saxon" is included in Wumao's script...Stop pretending. 😂😂😂

  • @bumbengtey8464
    @bumbengtey8464 4 месяца назад +12

    Are the Chinese complaining vociferously? If not, they most likely accept that something can be optimised. No big deal. Suggest CNA focussed on issues that are of real consequence.

    • @laocheebye
      @laocheebye 4 месяца назад

      Hahaha can the Chinese complain without disappearing suddenly? Even qin gang can disappear just like that.

  • @josephkelly5218
    @josephkelly5218 4 месяца назад +4

    No. In any country it is the responsiblity of government to provide transport. Western governments used to do this, but abandoned this in 1950s. China maitains services in remote areas,and it's a very beneficial thing to do

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +7

    I think most of them (if not all) share the same news source. It is not uncommon that when you search certain negative news about China, the top 5~6 results, from different news outlets, have exactly the same or similar titles. Someone (like Nathan Rich) finds out that sometimes they even seem to have the same scripts while reporting.

  • @ginger55555
    @ginger55555 4 месяца назад +14

    Better have it than none….
    Great china …. Mantabzzzzz…

  • @koko-zz7hv
    @koko-zz7hv 4 месяца назад +5

    These train stations were established as reserves for future urban expansion

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 4 месяца назад +3

    A tiny nation state reporter questioned the feasibility of China's railway stations.

  • @arcencielc2065
    @arcencielc2065 4 месяца назад +7

    There is a Chinese saying 想要富,先建路。If you want to be rich, build the road first.
    I want to remind the reporter that there are also "ghost" MRT Stations in Singapore. The govt builds them first as they are along the MRT line. When the need arises, such stations will be open. Based on the same logic, I don't see any issue with China's "ghost" stations. The Chinese govt is rich enough to invest in such expensive infrastructure. Try to ask the America!

    • @x0xyumingx0x
      @x0xyumingx0x 4 месяца назад +2

      Do you know these ghost station in Singapore were build with it surrounding already plan and construction of building were already in the process. Also the Chinese is contradicting cause without the wealth how you get the machine and people to build the road, cause no one will work for free.

    • @arcencielc2065
      @arcencielc2065 4 месяца назад

      @@x0xyumingx0x Yes, I am aware of it. Likewise, I believe that the Chinese govt built those so called "ghost" stations with plans in mind. The reporter doesn't understand the Chinse saying of 想要富,先建路。

    • @dps2933
      @dps2933 4 месяца назад +1

      @@x0xyumingx0x Not rich dont mean no money at all.

  • @llee4225
    @llee4225 4 месяца назад +28

    Another negative video funded by US $2B anti-China budget. Hundreds of bustling stations and it focus on a few discontinued stations. Public infrastructure is for affordable use for citizens for for capitalists' greed. What western public transportation makes money or not frothed with corruption and cost overrun?

    • @x0xyumingx0x
      @x0xyumingx0x 4 месяца назад +1

      Public infrastructure not making profit will only cost tax payer to pay for it, which tax payer will rather like this money be use in other more necessary thing like health care subsidies and education.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +3

      I think most of them (if not all) share the same news source. It is not uncommon that when you search certain negative news about China, the top 5~6 results, from different news outlets, have exactly the same or similar titles. Someone (like Nathan Rich) finds out that sometimes they even seem to have the same scripts while reporting.

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@x0xyumingx0x none . Since public infrastructure doesn't use profit loss . It's a public service

    • @heckmacbuff
      @heckmacbuff 4 месяца назад

      The debt that this high speed network has accumulated is astonishing, but who cares? The CCP will simply default, or write it off and kick the can down the road for future generations.

  • @jackiechu511
    @jackiechu511 4 месяца назад +39

    CNA what's your intention ?

    • @blackknight4996
      @blackknight4996 4 месяца назад +7

      No intention.....she is very naive and uninformed... too young too simple

    • @tankman20064
      @tankman20064 4 месяца назад +3

      To tell you the truth. That you cannot accept.

    • @yihchiehseeto225
      @yihchiehseeto225 4 месяца назад +5

      CNA has to follow a MSM script… everything is not rosy in CPC

    • @ttgleo957
      @ttgleo957 4 месяца назад

      The intention of every reputable news agency is to tell the truth as it is. Sorry you're so butthurt by it.

    • @jackiechu511
      @jackiechu511 4 месяца назад

      Singapore aslo have the same one why cna never tell ?​@@tankman20064

  • @powder4275
    @powder4275 4 месяца назад +3

    China planning ahead, here in Canada an entire rail line shuts down due to being 40 years old with nothing built to replace it, now stuck with buses for 10+ years

  • @gweejiahan9336
    @gweejiahan9336 4 месяца назад +4

    Keeping Mount Pleasant, Marina South MRT stations closed will save up to $1 million a year - The Straits times January 12 2022.
    Even SG have unopened MRT stations pending for future development. This is just the same thing but on bigger scale.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад +37

    🤣Apple+Foxconn learn a lesson in India ? iphone 16 need to return to assemble in China
    Taiwan's Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker and Apple's biggest iPhone assembler, said it plans to invest 1 billion yuan ($137.5 million) to construct a new business headquarters in Zhengzhou, central China's Henan Province.

    • @menander6486
      @menander6486 4 месяца назад +2

      They are expanding in India

    • @kabir1934
      @kabir1934 4 месяца назад +1

      Return?😂 What return? They are rapidly producing iPhone 16 in India, plus 2 more Foxconn plants are under construction. They increased in China only because of local market. Moreover sometimes Chinese professionals sometimes come to Indian Foxconn plants to work and guide to increase productivity.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 4 месяца назад

      Foxconn adds 50,000 workers in Zhengzhou plant as it prepares for Apple’s iPhone 16 launch
      The assembler, also known as Hon Hai Precision Industry, recruited more than 50,000 workers in Zhengzhou over the past two weeks

    • @kabir1934
      @kabir1934 4 месяца назад

      Foxconn starts mass manufacturing iPhone 16, 16 Pro series in India, on time for September launch

    • @dps2933
      @dps2933 4 месяца назад

      @@kabir1934 India is backup if China get banned.
      But China still have the best hardware manufacturing

  • @lookman7047
    @lookman7047 4 месяца назад +38

    It's a ghost railway station because there are no homeless people there 😅

  • @keith6371
    @keith6371 4 месяца назад +17

    At least they didn’t have to borrow money to buy 155 shells for Ukraine, talk about epic waste of tax money

  • @gdoe00
    @gdoe00 3 месяца назад +1

    I remember a few years back, China was being criticized for setting up subway station exits in the middle of a wasteland where no one goes. Soon after, that wasteland became one of the busiest areas in the district, and no one said anything about those wasted exits after that.

  • @CRH1A-1145
    @CRH1A-1145 4 месяца назад +13

    Now please look at how many railway stations the UK has abandoned.

    • @rockerjim8045
      @rockerjim8045 4 месяца назад

      China will never have a Dr Beeching

  • @Zerpentsa6598
    @Zerpentsa6598 4 месяца назад +40

    CNN and BBC lookalike CNA channel. 😂😂😂

    • @GASIA-cw8iw
      @GASIA-cw8iw 4 месяца назад +3

      It's a mini-BBC that is highly influenced by the USA.

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 4 месяца назад

      speaking the truth hurts i guess?

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 4 месяца назад

      @@GASIA-cw8iw say anything bad about china and it's instantly a pro US news news channel? what bout the times when CNA reported about the bad things happening in america? where were you to say it's a pro china news channel?

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад

      CNA = Corrupt News Agency

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 4 месяца назад

      CNA = Corrupt News Agency

  • @weiye8830
    @weiye8830 4 месяца назад +4

    In May 2024, according to statistics from a reporter from China Business News, at least 26 high-speed rail stations across the country were built but were not put into use or shut down due to remote locations, insufficient surrounding facilities, and low passenger flow. Just like some money is not used temporarily, it does not mean it must be used. Not using it is a waste. This is called saving for the future!

  • @amirabdulazeez3241
    @amirabdulazeez3241 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing . The empty stations are clean , no homeless people around , no littering nothing .

  • @gtl8268
    @gtl8268 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank CNA so much for concerning the China's high-speed rail development but unfortunately China didn't pay you any consultancy fee. By the way, the Zhengzhou Nancao station is one of the passenger stations along the line of the Zhengji Intercity Railway (郑机城际铁路) that operates at a maximum speed of not more than 200 km/hr, which is not a high speed rail line, and has nothing to do with the China's high-speed network. Two of the stations (Nancao and Mengzhuang) were closed but the Zhengji Intercity Railway is operationg well. Please do more homework before misinforming the viewers👎.

  • @2ezee2011
    @2ezee2011 4 месяца назад +1

    I rode the high speed train from Shanghai to Beijing. It was wonderful. I hate that the USA does not have anything close to the one I rode 10 years ago. BUT it has to make sense.

  • @johntan7405
    @johntan7405 4 месяца назад +20

    This topic has been reported years ago. Turns out it becomes a bustling area a few years later. Just forward planning.

    • @JojoJoget
      @JojoJoget 4 месяца назад +1

      This topic is now, not few years ago

    • @andrean2247
      @andrean2247 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@JojoJogetthen come back next few years

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 4 месяца назад

      @@JojoJoget The video they used is from a few years back.

  • @jameskim6442
    @jameskim6442 4 месяца назад +1

    I can't believe the closed metro station is empty.

  • @dkj6946
    @dkj6946 4 месяца назад +6

    Nothing extraordinary, just imagine like our Buangkok or Woodleigh station on NEL many years ago, not forgetting china is much much larger than SG. They are building the network of line first before opening new stations in areas that are developed

  • @dineshmalla3651
    @dineshmalla3651 4 месяца назад +3

    Magical China - It has advanced in all sectors.

  • @PutraMing
    @PutraMing 4 месяца назад +72

    😂😂😂CIA PROPAGANDA CHANNEL WITH SINGLISH NEWS LANGUAGE

  • @aurumnumis
    @aurumnumis 4 месяца назад +4

    CNA, the title of the video should be: This is what wealthy capitalist countries are unable and unwilling to do.

  • @8739paulstep7
    @8739paulstep7 4 месяца назад +10

    Well if it's shut why would people be there?

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 4 месяца назад +1

      The video is misinformation in some way, at 3:35, that old railstation was on the high speed train line in the old plan before the subway system inplace, this town is small and also close to the big city, it is more useful to have subway linked to the city, so the subway station was opened on 2020, not that long ago, by this way the high speed don't have to slow down and stop for few passenger. basicly it is the new subway replace the need of the railway, it has happened all over the contry for many years.

    • @8739paulstep7
      @8739paulstep7 4 месяца назад

      That makes sense. Cheers, mate.

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 4 месяца назад +1

      also over the years, the railway system have increase the top speed from 250km/h to 350km/h even 450km/h, many small station have to be closed to make way for the hightest speed.

  • @desmondw4813
    @desmondw4813 4 месяца назад +8

    Sg also got NEL woodleigh before it is open, still got one more at NE2 not launched.. just forward planning but at a much larger scale

  • @Alex-c8o4n
    @Alex-c8o4n 4 месяца назад +7

    CNA paid by Washington

  • @Pradeepkumar-fb9zp
    @Pradeepkumar-fb9zp 4 месяца назад +13

    China people: empty unused railway stations..
    Rest of the world 🌏 : still waiting for govts to build railway stations...
    😂😂

    • @SanjayBaghel471
      @SanjayBaghel471 4 месяца назад

      yaha to railway station me bhee bohot gandgai hai bhai ! alag se kuch infrastructure me kaam bhee nhi ho raha hai !

  • @letsgowalk
    @letsgowalk 4 месяца назад +1

    I recently took a trip across China spanning multiple provinces. One of the most notable trips was from Dunhuang to Ürümqi, but there is no HSR station in Dunhuang. I had to take a bus all the way out to this super remote station in Jiuquan, Gansu in the middle of the desert with nothing around for miles. It seriously looks like Tatooine.
    When I first arrived, they were "swatting flies" (Chinese slang for lack of business), but as the time came closer for the train to arrive, the place was PACKED like sardines. Where the heck do the people come from? There aren't any sizeable cities of note within a 100 mile radius, with Dunhuang being the largest.
    So at least for this extremely rural part of the country, I would say that the HSR is being put to good use.

  • @syafsmith5085
    @syafsmith5085 4 месяца назад +40

    CNA - Western propaganda network

    • @pbworld7858
      @pbworld7858 4 месяца назад +5

      Just like CNN.

    • @xxoo-lp6vc
      @xxoo-lp6vc 4 месяца назад +6

      Cable News America😅

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 4 месяца назад

      What rubbish? CNA has always been pro china to the extent of even fawning..... first negative press and you pounce on them. Sounds to me you are also anxious about chinese economy.

  • @smzhang8015
    @smzhang8015 4 месяца назад +1

    As of 2022, there are a total of 1189 high-speed railway stations in China

  • @Ak1m2
    @Ak1m2 4 месяца назад +7

    Rail can last hundreds-of-years! It's better to build now than later when cost will get higher & higher! Malaysia - Singapore High-Speed-Rail was an example how postpone & postpone make it no-more money to build as the material-cost kept increasing x2 x3! Furthermore, Rail compare to Airplane its more greener non-polluted & more economically and convenient in long-run as more cities will be mushrooming around it sooner, thus making city to cities connectivity in future much-much better than today as the Subway in Western-countries!

  • @chenghonggoh4746
    @chenghonggoh4746 4 месяца назад +8

    Overcapacity in transport infrastructure?

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes. Operation and maintenance costs adds up.

  • @karlwu5599
    @karlwu5599 4 месяца назад +1

    Glad to see that so many viewers see through the BS this film espoused.

  • @GravureBoobies
    @GravureBoobies 4 месяца назад +4

    Changi Airport Terminal 5 will be the same

  • @JaceWD
    @JaceWD 4 месяца назад +3

    Well obviously the station would be empty since they closed it...
    when she was in a station that was open, one look and u can tell its bustling and hustling. Says all u need to know whether the infrastructure is worth it or not.

  • @user-os7xb9fq8q
    @user-os7xb9fq8q 4 месяца назад +1

    She went to a closed train station and reports that it is deserted 🤔
    Of course there’s no one there! Why would people head there if the station isn’t open yet 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @chenghonggoh4746
    @chenghonggoh4746 4 месяца назад +11

    Watching this report about ghost stations during our ghost month. How timely.

  • @vb9950
    @vb9950 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm from India and my take is, its better to have to more connectivity and more trains than rather not having anything at all. India uses trains than any other country. But only in the recent past, we are trying to modernize the trains. And that too, not all of them are very fast.

  • @crtordoes
    @crtordoes 4 месяца назад +3

    Why “prompt questions” angmo pai mentality. Some of our stations ain’t opened too until the time is ripe. Just like foreign media deliberately came to Singapore to take picture of building not yet obtained TOP when economy is down to tarnish our image. 😩

  • @sherwinteo86
    @sherwinteo86 4 месяца назад +2

    There a lot of so call abandoned infrastructure (station, mall, condo) in china. The government can’t really care since it handle by the developer whether they broke or sustain.

  • @chinaware_456
    @chinaware_456 4 месяца назад +2

    So journalism now is about finding faults in other peoples/countries achievements?

  • @sepilokfui
    @sepilokfui 4 месяца назад +4

    rail investment helps lesser imvestment for commercial planes which control by only 2 companies

  • @jeffma6811
    @jeffma6811 4 месяца назад

    It seems like the boss assigned a topic then the employee filled it up to match it. What a shame!

  • @bobbybannerjee5156
    @bobbybannerjee5156 4 месяца назад +2

    Ashamed as ever to see China's railway from my third world India.
    How I wish I was chinese.