WHY I DON'T WANT THESE BIG SUBWOOFERS ANYMORE? Funk Audio LFE24 Ultra & 24.0E, Harbottle Audio C24
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Why am I getting rid of my 2 24" subwoofers? Find out in this video!
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It’s been fun watching your journey over the years. It’s funny on Facebook how one guy seems miffed that you are selling the Funk and Harbottle. I never understood why people feel the need to tell others how to spend their own money. If used which to Polk audio subs, it’s your hard earned money. Spend it however you please lol
Lol thanks man. I never understood it either, pretty silly for him to be upset over what I sold and bought. How was trip, it looked like a lot of fun?
Because hoarders ruin the planet for everyone.
@@thunderpooch lol...So people are supposed to care what someone like you thinks about how they spend their OWN money? But thanks for watching and supporting the channel 😄.
I personally went sealed high performance subs for the sake of being able to move them alone and for reselling purposes. No more 200 plus pound subs for me.i run 4 svs sb 4000 right now and it's not the loudest I've ever had but its def the most even bass from seat to seat I've ever had and it's still plenty loud and hits plenty low and hard and none of them have to work hard.i got all my sb4000 before prices went way up and in the closeout section. I paid 999 for one and under 1200 each for the others. Big bang for your buck.
They probably are the same people who want to tell you what condiments to use on your food.
I’m guessing three RS2s
If so you’ll love them. I got on that train myself
Because you mentioned cone surface area and you wanted sealed that narrows it down to the RS2s. I know Youthman loves his. Solid choice. Looking forward to the video when you get.
Pretty good guess, we'll have to wait and see lol, thanks for watching my friend.
Yes we joined you on your ridiculous shopping spree. It was
Awesome! Thanks
I have a custom 21" subwoofer for my computer audio system because of seeing your videos :)
lmao, that is incredibly awesome, I bet you have the best damn computer audio setup around!
@@SpecOfTech ya it's nice, I'm building custom speakers this spring to go with the subwoofer , the subwoofer is sealed and flat down to 10hz :)
I agree, as a fellow Canadian, the exchange, taxes, duties, et al....... much better value in JTR. 👍
Can’t wait to see your new ones come in 🙌🏻
Can’t wait to see your review and comparisons with the funks when you get them. Cheers!
Captivator rs2 is my guess, two 18's, sealed, gobs of power and $4500 a pop.
Mabae...lol
I'd guess RS1, otherwise with 3 x RS2's - the cost would be up near the cost of the 3 x 24E's
Jumping on JTR hype train, congratz mate :). I am jumping on the perlisten soon :).
Haha, Yeah I guess I am. Although, in my defense I did try to buy JTR's before the hype train was on the tracks lol. Perlisten looks pretty slick what are you getting from the Perlisten lineup?
@@SpecOfTech oh that I understood, that you actually were before on JTR :). But still its awesome!
I am starting with 2 pair of monitors and one center from the reference series of perlisten:)
Three RS1.
You should also check out the PSA S3612 or S42iPal
I don't know, do you think I could settle for 3 18" after having 24's? Think a little bit bigger my friend 😉, 6 18's might do the trick. In the past I had dual PSA TV3612's, amazing subs that kick like a mule on steroids, but they lack powerful low end bass. They do go low, but not much authority there.
It had to be JTR.. they have the best price and super performance balance
Wow that's monster Subwoofers. You are a Basehead like me. But with a lot more $$$$. I'm with you on JTR Subwoofers. If I had the money that's what I'd go with too.
Well thanks for watching fellow basshead lol. I can't wait to experience the JTR's, they are arriving next week, 695lbs of awesome.
Rs2 would be my guess, The RS1s in my small room along with Crowsons give me more than enough tactile bass.
Have you considered getting car subs….
They are exactly the same! But without the price tag. For £3000 you could get a box made and a sub of whatever size you like plus a pro amp.
The hi-fi industry does love to rip people off eh.
Had to subscribe. So far the videos I’ve watched you do an awesome job 👍
Thanks for the sub my friend 😉
My guess is RS1. They are sealed and smallest JTR. I have two RS2 and they are a beast at 220lbs and 40” long. I only had them setup a few months but wow.. I can not crank too much as they will trip a 15 amp Circuit.
Do you think my internal subwoofer ego would let me go to a single 18" driver after the 24's....I don't know lol. Nice my friend, those RS2's are beasts, I can't wait to hear mine 😉,
@@SpecOfTech that was a pretty good hint.😆Congrats!
@@sebastianejlertsen3118 lol dammit, I thought it was subtle...cheers man.
@@SpecOfTech you can’t sneak with that.😆Good video my man!
@@SpecOfTech I think you are in Calgary too. I ordered mine the end of last December and received them at the end of May. To Canada there is no duty just GST. Finally got them moved up in October when my son had friends over. They measured in my room pretty much flat 5hz to 130hz using REW. I also use a mini dsp hd to time align and EQ. Had a bit of a dip in my room around 60hz but was able to mostly EQ it out. My biggest problem is I only have one 15 amp Circuit for the room. When I did a test with edge of tomorrow and turning my receiver up to reference it cause the breaker to trip. Before it tripped I have a Vase on the back shelf and it was moving across the shelf. I think you will be happy with them but let us know how you feel it compares to funk.
Sad to see them go...the most bad ass bass I have ever experienced! BUT, knowing you, what Santa is delivering won't fit down the chimney, or possibly in a car. I know what is coming, and it scares me lol ! Is JTR sending Caution tape for your property perimeter? Can't wait to see those bad ass subs in action! Keep cracking basements bro! Cheers!
Haha Santa doesn't have the back or muscles to deliver these, too many cookies and egg nog. You will have to come by for an audition once installed. I also need to come by and hear those PS Audio amps, and how they add more magic to those already magical Legacy speakers of yours.
Oh man ,I didn't know you were Canadian. Here I thought we were friends. Haha. Jk. I live in a border town and many of my neighbors are Canadian. Another good video. Can't wait to see the new setup. Though I'd rather just hear it. Haha.
Oh yeah EH! Lol I grew up close the American border haha, so that's why I can conceal my Canadian'ness. Thanks for watching brother!
@@SpecOfTech LOL. Conceal your Canadian 'ness. Lol. Damn that struck me funny!! And yeah, I'm American but no one's perfect. Haha. I'm digging a couple of those demo songs you used for this video!!
Based on the amounts you spent on the subwoofers before, my guess is that the wife only approved the absolute cheapest JTR subs
Lol, you would think...BUT, my wife is pretty awesome. I ordered 3 JTR RS2's.
I thought that you would go with the JTR I'm.not a bassaholic as you are and bet you were getting at least 140dB or close to it I'm content with the 2 Diefiance X 12's I have love your videos keep them coming
Wow, another set of end game subs! Congrats. Have you seen some of the Dominus rated subwoofers from Perlisten and now M & K coming out? Hopefully you can try those too in the future!
I would love to check out some of their subs.
Get four JTR Captivator 4000's and a couple of JTR Orbit Shifters and you should be good.
lol, I may be good, but my house would crumble.
You mentioned 3-4 subs and price was a pretty big factor in your decisions so to me it’s a no brainer. You ordered 4 RS1
Which is also the easiest to add/upgrade or resell. And every few months you get to tinkering. So reselling also plays a part.
That's a pretty good guess, and that was a consideration at one point. But given the price of 4 RS1 vs 3 RS2, it's pretty close and 3 RS2 gives me 6 18" drivers. The price was important but extreme output was number 2 on my list of factors I would say, and 6 18's in 3 RS2's would have quite the advantage over the 4 18's in 4 RS1's, for only a little more money. I say a little more money comparative to the overall price of them.
@@SpecOfTech it is 5 subwoofer versus 3. But because you are constantly changing things up my guess weighed heavily on resale. I just think the rs1 have easier and better resell value. 🤷🏻♂️ but what do I know? You probably already got your buyer picked out this summer 😂. Congrats can’t wait to hear the review 🤩
@@michaelkreisel3573 haha, I hope not. I fully expect to satisfy my bass craving with the subwoofers that I have coming. Because I now know exactly what I want for the space I am in, and the RS2's ticked all the boxes. Thanks for watching and weighing in with your guess brother...cheers.
Which he got ride of too.
You should build your own Bass system 🔊 have you tried Pierce Audio. They make 12k RMS Bass subs in 21",24", and 33". Nothing comes close to the power or amazing sound these things put out. They are handmade in the U.S. too. Seriously these are the best of the best, you have to build a box for it and set up an Amplifier/power unit. But if you want the best that's what it takes. These are a 3rd of the price you spent for your 24" for 6x the power and great sound quality. Taramps makes great amps if you can incorporate them in your system to power these. Yes that is a car audio amp, but can easily be setup to power a system for a home theater. Building a system will give you 6x the power for about a 3rd of the price. It would give you great content no one has put out before so it could pay for the system in ad views. 12k RMS home theater subs, yes please. Or if size and weight is an issue they make conservative NEO 8k RMS subs as small cone area as 12"
Is it better to have different performing subs since the overall freq response would average out to a flatter curve.
Typically no, it's usually better to have identical performing subwoofers. Unless you are quite good at calibration and integration, then you can get a great response using different performing subwoofers.
Just curious where do you go to sell such high end gear?
Nice honest review; but now that you have heard the Funk, the JTR will not compare. Never easy to go down in price/performance!
Eh the funk might be too big for the space
Don't get rid of those speakers! Give them to your kids! I'm sure they'll make good use of them
Lol, my house rule is if you can get it to your room on your own you can't have it.
It HAS been a great year, Mr. Of Tech. Thank you for your blend of informativeness and humour.
Merry Christmas to you also!
Thank you my friend, I hope Santa brings you all the Hifi you could ever want.
Before you get rid of the Big Funks, could you please try them out with vintage 1970's SESURROUND? The Blu-ray of Midway has the original track that's gets below 15 HZ. That would make an amazing video and farewell. Thanks!
You won't have to go to far to see them again, my friend Gary at The Brown Cinema RUclips channel bought them. He already has one of them and I will be shipping the other one when I get back from out of town. He may be able to do that for you, thanks for watching brother.
@@SpecOfTech How about you try Sensurround with your new subwoofers when they arrive? It will rattle your organs. (You have to manually route the LFE to your rear subs for the full effect.)😁
Are you going for the 18 inch subwoofers(doubled 18's or single 18's)? All from JTR.
How much over the list price did you have to pay for the shipping & duties? I live in Toronto & am considering the RS1 or Captivator 2400. But I just hate dealing with the hassle of these import overhead costs. Is it a hassle free process?
Shipping was pretty price, I am not sure how much it would be for a single RS1, I would guess around $150 maybe. The RS1 can ship regular courier, my subwoofers had to ship with freight, which as you know is much more $$. Than you just have to pay brokerage and taxes depending on your province. Contact JTR for a quote, but I don't think it will be too bad for an RS1. The 2400 might have to ship freight, so it would most likely be more.
@@SpecOfTech Awesome Thanks!
What about creating a line array setup? I am running the SVS Ultra 16s sealed with 3 on each side. They look great and play well for music and movies.
Very nice man! I used to have dual PB16's, I love the look of their subwoofers, some of the nicest ones in the game IMO.
@@SpecOfTech I wasn't as impressed with just having 1 on left and right but having the line array with the Sopras really made both movies and music open up. REL makes an amazing line array setup also.
Line array? Subs are Omni directional. You mean you’re just stacking 3 on each side and taking advantage of coupling? There’s a few different sub arrays you can do but line array isn’t really one of them. By doing a stereo setup youre also creating an alley of cancellation down the middle of your room. You’re better off lining the front with them spaced evenly apart.
@@thenightlifenj1 Look up REL Line Array. They are the most detailed into what's been done. Not just a stack, each one is tuned individually.
@Cole it is just a stack. It's a stack of subs that they are taking advantage of coupling. That's why they're calling it REL Line Arrays. Subs are omni directional. There taking advantage of the bump in output due to coupling the boxes together. You can do this vertically or horizontally. They're choosing to do this vertical and calling it a line array. Big difference between an actually line array system. There alot more to a line array that just being able to be stacked in a vertical array.
And it’s gotta be RS1s based on what you’re saying about price, sealedness, and cabinet size.
We'll see lol, they get delivered this week. I hope I can get the video out before the holidays.
*I thought 12" subs would be heaps of bass if you had 2 of them.* 😂🤣😂
I'm considering putting 2x LFE Ultra 24 inch subwoofers in a large open concept living room (~7000 cubic feet with all doors closed). Do you think it's a good fit for the room size and do you still like the Funks after switching to the JTRs?
The Funk LFE 24 is a beast and would be more than enough for your space. That said, the JTR CAP4000 is very similar in output and is less money by far. I recommend getting 2 of those and the money saved can go towards something else.
@@SpecOfTech Appreciate your advice! I will look into the CAP4000s. Have a great one!
Why not go with DeepSeaSound 24" Mariana? Price is reasonable compared to what you are discussing. How will dual 18s compare in cone area to a single 24. Area= PI(Radius squared). By my calculation one 24" still has more area than dual 18" so you are giving up a bit. The rationale of using more power for dual 18 vs one 24 will mean both 18s have to work much harder. This will lead to more distortion vs a 24" that is barely sweating. I am assuming you are going with JTR RS2 which are awesome but again - THEORETICALLY - one would think 24"s would be preferred based on performance. If it comes down to size and convenience, well then I can see you getting close with dual 18's
You are close with your calculations, but I think you may have mixed up which has more cone area. Dual 18’s would have almost 509 and the single 24 has about 452.38. So the dual 18’s have more cone area. I did actually reach out to Deep Sea about the 24”, but to get them into Canada was A LOT more expensive than I thought, it just wasn’t worth it. Great guess, I did end up going with 3 JTR RS2’s, but I have sense sold them. I will now be going with 3 JTR CAP2400’s. To be honest the 3 JTR 2400’s are far more than my room needs already. They are also smaller and easier to move around for comparison/demos for the channel.
Get 2 Stereo Integrity HA 24s full carbon fiber beautiful Subwoofer
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Prediction - After 9 months of using the JTR's, we'll get a video stating the JTR's are being sold. Next up, Ascendo SMSG32 (32 inch subs) x 4.
Barrett, You are one Rich Canadian.
lol I sure hope not, I wholeheartedly believe that these subwoofers will be where I stop. I wish I was rich man lol, like I said in the video, I am just a guy who spends way too much on his hobby.
Stereo integrity sells a badd 24” for 1400$ us 😍
Keep up the great job & keep doing the sound demos.😎👍
Thanks for watching brother, much appreciated.
Funk Audio: Barrett was never our friend.
Harbottle: Spec of Tech is now our sworn enemy.
Lmao no comment...
Why didn't you buy JTR speakers instead of the Legacy?
I like the looks and design of the Legacy speakers more. Also, from what I read they should be a more musical speaker while performing exceptionally well in HT. But, they are also more expensive, so they should sound and look better.
I'd say the Captivator RS1s looking purely at cost but the RS2 for performance and cost.
I have a cab for a 21'', and I have a speaker in it. but my question is this, why is
it 6ft 5 inches tall ? ! ? its custom made, but made well. there all kinds of braces and heavy pillows in the bottom. this thing is the better part of 200lbs! and no recessed handles, Im going to have to cut them in because my back just cant handle a cab that huge! it sounds great, even tho I bought the cheapest 21in loud speaker I could find. even for just a loud speaker, its not a sub still, the bass is killer! Id love to have another cab exactly like it.
but it was just cut for one 21. any one Know why such a big cab for 1 speaker? maybe for better compression? ..its ported so, I dont know.
I would have put in a cross over, and put 4x12'' in the other end.
ya definitely didnt see that coming. im being sarcastic btw lol. great decision my friend i hope you will love them and they will work out for you perfectly!!!
Why dont u make it urself. Devastator NSW 21"?
I did 2 Mini Martys before, I understand the appeal of DIY, but they aren't for me personally. I prefer my commercial subs, but that doesn't mean DIY subs aren't great too.
Can’t wait to see the JTR’s man!
So isn't JTR a huge, huge drop on SQL? Your going from Carbon Fiber huge power better enclosures to paper cones and cheaper boxes with more resonance.
No I wouldn't say its a drop in SQL at all, not after experiencing them both personally anyway. Power wise the C24 and RS2 are basically identical, not a big enough difference to be audible anyway. The JTR RS2 is basically twice as powerful as the Funk 24.0E. By cheaper boxes, you are only right on outer appearance. The Harbottle C24, Funk 24E and JTR RS2 are all Baltic Birch enclosures. The Funk and Harbottle just have nicer finishes.
@@SpecOfTech Hmm, so the big price tag that they have isn't really worth it with the Carbon drivers and the filters aren't any better?
Was thinking of selling my Seaton F18s and Dual REL 1508 Predators and getting a pair of Funk Audio or Harbottles but If they aren't any better than JTR in SQL than they won't be better than my Seaton F18 and I might as well get two more of them and have four 18's. Seatons are 4K RMS and are Nomex Cones and go down to 7hz lower than Funk
@@jimthestargazer For me personally, it wasn't worth it anymore. From what Funk and Harbottle have said, they will have lower distortion than JTR. But I have to say these JTR's are clean with powerful output, if there is a sound quality difference, I don't hear it. I am happy with my decision, and so is my pocket book. I will miss the more premium finish of the 24's though.
Was there a difference between the two setups? Was the Funk any better or Harbottle any better in Lows or mid/upper bass?
Harbottle uses Funks drivers but the system is different.
If you had to choose between the two again in the future for 50/50 duty which one would you choose?
I'm guessing it was a trick... RTJ 110s.
I've been curious for a while now how well having 6, 8, or even 10 smaller sealed subwoofers would perform in a HT setup, or even a two channel stereo system? I have two SVS sb-3000's for stereo listening so I'll use that for example. 8 or 10 of them, stacked in sets of two, dispersed through the room, lol! I feel like that might just create "bass bliss"? You could substitute any manufacturer or model that's reasonable in size and goes as deep as you require, but I'd love to experience the results to fulfill my curiosity!
You should absolutely try it. You are right, stacking subwoofers and dispersing them around the room, would give an incredibly linear response, especially if paired with something like a minidsp.
@@SpecOfTech Well, I have two of them and that's about all I could put in my room. We live in a townhouse with limited space, and that's mostly why I've never dabbled in HT. When we find a house I'll probably be more interested in HT. More space and I could set things up more permanently. It'd be an expensive experiment, but I'd like to hear from somebody who's tried it.
@@JosephTongret Yeah I guess you don't want to be "that" neighbor lol.
@@SpecOfTech we fortunately only have neighbors on one side. They're a young couple who had a baby shortly after they moved in(our kid's are 12 & 17)The day after they'd come home from the hospital I got a letter posted to my door politely asking if I'd be mindfull of the volume at night because they'd had things on the walls rattle in the past but didn't want to complain, lmao! I felt so terrible that I put a hundred dollars in a congratulations card, and I disconnected all of my subs in both systems for probably three months or more 🤣. It wasn't until one day I saw them at the community pool and the wife came over and told me "you can use your stereo again, the baby sleeps through the night now"!
But multiple Subs will cause phase cancellation
Love it
One has to be told that spending nine grand on a subwoofer is absolutely medication time bring that person to the local affiliated hospital for psych evaluations you know what you could do with nine grand when it comes to speakers and subs oh my God, is my grandparents might say do you realize how many people you could feed a lunch to with $9,000
Hey Aamir (Toronto) told me about you, apparently your in Calgary!! Any chance we could chat briefly re SVS subs?? Thanks !
Yeah for sure, I think you PM'd me on Insta, let’s chat there.
if you want cheap and best preformance get GSG Audio DIY
Thanks for watching. I have actually tried 2 Mini Martys before, they weren't really for me, but they do offer good performance for the $$.
Calling rs1 or rs2 since you mentioned wanted sealed. If I had to pick I'd say rs1 to save on space and cost. I have 1 rs1 finished in gloss black. I love it
Very slick man, there is something about a speaker or sub finished in gloss black that is just sexy. You are pretty much bang on, I decided on the RS2's though ;).
@@SpecOfTech nice!! JTR makes a great product. I have your old speakers Rp8000 in Piano black so I wanted them to match. Also for WAF since my set up is a living room set up.
Jesus. You could build your own boxes and better subs for that price. Insane mark up
Sometimes smaller is better ;)
Very rarely 😉
Lol 😆
I've been telling my woman that for years. Haha
@@imissmypeep2209 😂😅😭
Lmao, if only women believed this.
Is this a typo in the header 😂
Lol, why do you say that?
@@SpecOfTech i thought you were crazy for getting them, not getting rid of them 😂😂
@@eyeshezzy Oh lmao, here I was looking for an actual typo in the headline.
@@SpecOfTech 😂😂😂 that's the funniest thing i have heard all day 😂😂
@@eyeshezzy I did make a typo in the video though...soo shhhhh, don't tell anyone lol. It's a subtle one, but it's there.
Any summit hifi discount codes ?
Sorry there are no codes that I know of. If you are interested in Nuprime amps from Summit, let me know, I could probably get you a discount on those.
@@SpecOfTech I was interested in picking up 2 tonewinner amps. How are they holding up ? If you still have them
@@specialformula14 Because of the difficulties with supply and transport, he is not offering discount codes right now. But I would truly appreciate if you use this link:
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JTR sr1 x 4
RS2’s
Maybe lol
I have JTRs, and love them, but also but honestly kind of bummed literally every RUclipsr likes them now. It's like constant JTR shilling and nobody talks about their negatives.
It's not shilling if the product is good 😉. If I experience negatives I talk about them...always. I just haven't experienced any with JTR yet. What negatives are you experiencing personally?
@@SpecOfTech I've owned a number of JTR products over the years. Jeff is a very nice guy, but that's literally the entire company. If you've known him a while, or if you are a RUclipsr, you get access to call and talk to him, but the regular customer doesn't even have a phone number to call. You email them for sales and support. There is no phone number on the website. The same guy answers both sales and support emails, and his support knowledge is pitiful. The finish work is downright horrible on them too, and the cabinets have gotten worse when he moved down south. Again, I own JTR products and think they are great performers, but it's boring as heck seeing every youtuber just shill them without giving the obvious potential drawbacks of buying from JTR. That's the economics of the RUclips game though, I guess. They're a great choice for people who want extreme output and great measuring subwoofers, and the RS series are my favorite, but I think people should also get the full story on the buying experience from at least ONE youtuber.
Why didn't you consider DIY?
I have done 2 18" DIY subs before, they didn't really impress me. I understand they offer a great value for the price, but they just didn't have NEAR the authority and slam as some of these commercially available subs. That being said, you could build many DIY subs for the price of one these and get more output...assuming you have the room for multiple massive subs.
Capivator RS 1
Do you think I could go to single 18" drivers after 24" drivers...I don't know😛.
3 RS2’s? You’ll shake your house down!
this just goes to show you cant beat what you get from jtr and i dont think anyone will ever match or surpass that value.
I agree, the value that they offer for the output is pretty much impossible to beat.
jtr rs2 ez 😎
lol you sir...nailed it.
Wow! I thought I like you bro. Obviously another catfish! So you went from the ported to the sealed. Did you lose performance? Because you have plenty of power with both subs. I can’t imagine that you ran outta power with the sealed sub. So did you actually lose performance or did you just have to turn the sealed sub up more? Did the 2 subs sound different because sealed subs are supposed to dig lower. So I would think in frequency response you would lose performance using the ported sub. It would just be louder. But at this level volume shouldnt be an issue since your not maxing out your levels I have a hard time believing you even go past half with the volume knob as that would be 1000-2000wrms your listening to and your not in a big room
The ported subwoofer I had was tuned to about 11hz, and gave me a flat response similar to that of the sealed counterpart. The ported sub, being more efficient, has more output in the low end than the sealed subwoofers because it is tuned so low. The higher frequencies were very similar in output, but the ported subwoofer definitely outperforms the sealed subwoofer in the low frequencies, without question. You are right to a certain extent, a sealed subwoofer typically will dig deeper vs a ported subwoofer that isn't tuned for ultra low frequencies. I hope that explains it. I should have been a little more specific and clarified I was speaking about the subwoofers I was showcasing in the video.
@@SpecOfTech the jtr is a nice sub. You’ll be happy with them for about 6 months just like your original subs and your speakers then you’ll probably want to swap them out ive noticed you keep stuff for approx 6 months then swap them out for something new. I don’t know the model number but jtr makes a dual 18” and I think that’s probably what your getting because you said the cone area is about the same as your 24” and I think that math lines up. I watched a review of 2 of them the other day and they got 115db at 8hz. That was just the 2 and that was maxing out the processor they had more in them but the processor wouldn’t push them any further. I’m looking forward to the new videos next yr. thanks for responding to my questions
@@jamband4230 haha I do like to try new gear quite often, but I am also hunting for a very specific sound and extreme bass experience.
Only reason a man wouldnt want big subwoofers anymore would be if the wife says divorce or the subs.
Lol OR if he is upgrading to other big subs.
Congrats on the upcoming babies🤣.
You're obviously going with the RS lineup, question is, did you really mean what you said about wanting smaller to more easily move gear around or even stack for demo's???? If that is the case, 3 RS1's would more than shake your walls, we both know that. Then considering you are never satisfied with "more than enough" but are more of a "way more than I ever need" kind if guy then it has to be the RS2's, even though they are twice the weight and much harder to move around for demo's. I just don't your brain will let you go from 24" subs at 4000+ watts to 18" subs at 2000 watts, even if you really won't notice a difference under 110 db.
The best compromise is 2 RS1's in the front and an RS2 in the back. Yes, different sizes which was not part of your goal but gives you easy relocation up front and still gives you the pride of a 4000 watt sub.
But let's be honest, I don't think you are gonna come in under Michael from Youthman and you go all in with the RS2's🤣🤣
You sir, have been spying on me...either that or you are literally in my head lol. Which would explain all the voices in there 😜. That was a surprisingly accurate assessment, I am a "way more than I ever need" kind of guy, you nailed it lmao!!!
I’ve noticed a trend with your videos lately. You really don’t know how to word things correctly. It seems like you are ok with burning bridges with companies. It’s really interesting to see because you did it with Legacy & now Harbottle. That’s too bad….
I'm sorry it came off that way to you. Although I do think it's important to point out, that if there was a bridge burned with Legacy, the fire wasn't started by me. I gave a lot of time and chances for them to try and make it right. That video was actually a hard one to make, because I don't like putting out negativity. Judging by most of the comments I think that came through on the video too. That being said, I do pride myself on my honesty on this channel. I do my best to just be honest, whether good or bad. I can't control how a company handles a situation, but I can control telling you guys how I was treated as a customer.
I can assure you, I worded things exactly as I intended in these videos. I do enjoy working with the some great audio companies, especially the ones that are good not just in the public eye, but that are also good behind the scenes 😉. But, I don't see how me saying the Funk and Harbottle subs are too expensive for me personally to achieve my goal would burn a bridge with them? Most of what I said was positive, the downside is the price is too much for me personally. Maybe you can explain, what you mean by "You really don't know how to word things correctly"?
jesus u fuckin destroy my place with those short subwoofer sound burst from nowhere without any warning - not only u have multiple big subwoofers ...!!
Lol sorry about that, I like to keep you basshead guys on your toes.
@@SpecOfTech i am watching you tube thru my system using dolby surround upmixer all the time so really shacked my room unexpectedly on the middle on the night and when i thought its over and i put back the volume up there was second burst 2:27 from there on i was really on my toes for rest of the video lol
You get ride of everything, no surprise.
Let us know when you find something you really like. Be honest for once.
So because I like to try new equipment, and it also helps the channel by providing new equipment to review, that makes me dishonest? How does that make logical sense?
Strange that you keep mentioning 3 subwoofers, as if it's not about their sound and power, and in 1st place of importance - number of subwoofers ;)
I've dealt professionally with high-end home theaters, and I AM CERTAIN that you would be mightily surprised by ONE flagship Paradigm SUB 2 in your listening room!!!
(106KG - small cabinet (62.2cm × 60.3cm × 56.8cm)
9,000 watts Dynamic Peak / 4,500 watts RMS,
Six 254-mm (10 in) RCR™ mineral-filled co-polymer polypropylene cones, FEA-optimized overmolded thermoplastic foam-surrounds, 76-mm (3 in) ten-layer long-excursion voice coils, high-temperature composite Nomex® formers, dual advanced spiders, 25.2-lb (10.5 kg) hard ferrite magnet / motor structure, massive center heatsink and oversize pole piece, AVS™ die-cast heatsink chassis...
"The Best Subwoofer in the World, Period."
Please rent one to test and let us know your impressions!
www.paradigm.com/en/sealed/signature-sub-2
There was quite a bit of talk about performance in the video too lol. The I kept mentioning 3 or 4 HIGH PERFORMANCE subwoofers ;). I even say I want that for extreme bass performance haha.
The SUB 2 is a great subwoofer and if you love it, all the power to you. I think you will find that the SUB2 performance is lagging quite far behind the JTR RS2 especially in the low end below 20hz, and the RS2 is significantly less expensive. I would love to experience a SUB2 one day, but I have done the comparisons, and the RS2 are the subwoofers for me...cheers!
@@petersharps3923 I am not sure where you are getting your information Peter. The SUB2 does not have 112DB output at 10hz. Data-bass.com did do third party CEA2010 measurements of both the Sub2 and the JTR S2. The JTR S2 is the older version of the RS2, the RS2 has slightly more output than the S2. But for this comparison we will just use the S2 for simplicity sake. The CEA2010 numbers only measure down to 10hz, but the S2 has 3db more output at 10hz and upwards of 10db more output at some other frequencies than the SUB2. The only thing that is certain is that the S2 has more clean output at every frequency.
When it comes to cone area, which is important for output as well, the 6 10" drivers have a cone area of 471 and dual 18" drivers have a cone area of 508. So again the RS2 has more cone area for output.
Again, I am not sure where you are getting your information, but the RS2 does go down to 7hz, I have measured it in my room and shown that it does with REW measurements in my video about the RS2's. Regarding your comment that the 6 10" drivers will be faster etc, that is an age old myth that just isn't true. In fact the 18" will be cleaner, because it doesn't need to use as much of its excursion to hit the same SPL's because of the cone area issue I covered already. So the 10" drivers will work harder to hit the same spl as the dual 18" drivers, that won't even break a sweat. Which will make the 18" clean and tight, these RS2 subwoofers are excellent for music as well as movies.
I do love your passion for subwoofers and your enthusiasm for the SUB2, but your information is unfortunately incorrect. I would love to check out the SUB2 one day, because it is still a phenomenal subwoofer. That being said, given its output it is grossly overpriced vs the competition that has better output. Assuming that output is your metric, considering your comments I would have to say that output is priority 1 for you.