I love how easy the equation on the board actually was. It was just a simple integration problem for finding the for the equation for the area of an ellipse. Anyone who's taken calculus could do that.
I love this scene from Rushmore, not because of the mathematical antics; but I lways watched this scene and thought to myself "wow that is one awesome tea cup"....seriously I want that teacup.
this has to be a joke right? no one has ever solved the famous "area of an ellipse" problem that has plagued the world's brightest minds for centuries lol.
After attending two universities and the Naval War College, I've had calculus, trig, physics, statistics, four chemistry classes, biochemistry....you name it. After all that I've come to one conclusion about all the good it did me, from the perspective of a gap of 35 years since: I can now count to potato, twice. Furthermore, I can spell potato correctly. We've all had dreams about what that guy did in his dream, the actual problem aside. Nice post though!
@jesal21 I'm interested in reading his calculations, thoughts et cetera leading to his proof that 1 + 1 = 2: could you tell me the page numbers in "Principia Mathematica" where Bertrand Russel proves this? Thanks in advance!
@sekwah09 im just saying that this is practically the first thing you do when studying math at university so it is fair to assume that anyone with any university experience knows it...
I had to do this as an exercise junior year of high school.. I'm pretty sure any professor, or class member, should be able to solve this. Especially if they go to MIT...
@braydenbeautiful It's been 10 months so I'm assuming you finished pChem. How was it? I have to take it in a few years. I'm still a freshman and I'm taking gen chem so far. Seems pretty easy to me so far and orgo is even easier but my average iq is only around 120.
@braydenbeautiful actually they do...do u really think hollywood would spend millions of dollars to make a movie and not spare a few bucks to hire a math professor that can solve this question? what he did on the board makes sense...he just did in a very long-winded way that seems complicated to someone who doesn't know any calculus...otherwise all he did was take the equation of an ellipse, rearrange in terms of x and integrate it from 0 to pi/2 and multiply by 4....
@johnny9101 Between where you say "Rearrange the terms" and "Ergo", you take the square root of both sides. But you have to take into consideration that the square root is a multivalued function. So this step is invalid.
I was expecting Grigori Perelman behind the newspaper. Seriously though, this is based on a real incident. George Dantzig did something similar in college, writing down some unproven theorems after walking in class late and figuring out how to do it when he assumed it was a homework assignment.
I could do that problem when a softmore in High School. And I didn't get interested in math until my softmore year when I first took algebra 1. But my GPA still sucked.
@braydenbeautiful great response. never judge a book by its cover, intellect is not something that can be predicted as easily as personality...and often they are completely different animals. Work in academia takes the same, if not more sweat blood and mental torment than any other field of work. I know this. We know this. Its not like you get in front of a bunch of people, write down a few equations and BAM you're huge. It takes YEARS of HARD balls-busting work! Even then its not guaranteed!
This could be done much easier than he did it, if he would have used a double integral , in elliptical coordinates. x=ar*cos(t), y=b*r*sin(t). The Jacobian is J=a*b*r. If D denotes the ellipse and int stands for integral Then int_{D}1dxdy=int_{0}^{2*Pi}dt*int_{0}^{1} a*b*r dr = Pi*a*b. That's just calculus 2.
@JackTheNinja11 Actually that is correct, but it's a very complex equation that I doubt any of you can do. this is the way me and my Geometry class did it. Start with: -20 = -20 Which is the same as: 16-36 = 25-45 Which can also be expressed as: (2+2) 2 (9 X (2+2) = 52) 9 X 5 Add 81/4 to both sides: (2+2) 2 (9 X (2+2) + 81/4 = 52) 9 X 5 + 81/4 Rearrange the terms: ({2+2}) 9/2) 2 = (5-9/2) 2 Ergo: 2+2 - 9/2 = 5 Hence: 2 + 2 = 5 so you aren't lying when you say 2+2=5
Genius? Hahaha.., this is funny. Just finding the area of an ellipse by integration and substitutions. What about geometric theory of differentiable manifolds?
Lmao this probably would be the easiest problem you ever did in a MIT math class, especially if you knew any calculus at all. Just use the equation for the ellipse, rearrange the form such that y=(blah blah), and integrate y in terms of x. This gives you the area of everything under the equation curve... and that's what you want. OK, yes this is very cursory and there's a lot of details I'm eschewing, but the general idea is very straight-forward.
Gee.... Being able to calculate area of an ellipse is the most difficult problem for (MIT) professors? Get a life.... I'm no genius and I could do it in two minutes years before I even took calc II
I love how easy the equation on the board actually was. It was just a simple integration problem for finding the for the equation for the area of an ellipse. Anyone who's taken calculus could do that.
This is the opening scene to "Rushmore". The kid is dreaming. He's actually a very poor student.
How does he know it's correct?
"You got it" if no one else in the world knows it either?
The original stuff on the board has x's written like multiplication signs which as far as I'm concerned is a hanging offence for a math teacher.
Most first year mathematics/physics undergrads are able to do this.
@gamemaster014 This is from the movie Rushmore. This is a day dream by the kid. It's from his perspective of difficult math.
since its an oval, cant you pretend you split it into 4 parts, then use an integral to find the area under one of the curves, and then multiply by 4?
I love this scene from Rushmore, not because of the mathematical antics; but I lways watched this scene and thought to myself "wow that is one awesome tea cup"....seriously I want that teacup.
this has to be a joke right? no one has ever solved the famous "area of an ellipse" problem that has plagued the world's brightest minds for centuries lol.
Notice that the graph of the equation y=sq. root of x is wrong for x
Finding the formula for the area of an ellipse? Hardest geometry problem EVER!
i like how he's called max.
now solve the area of the cirlcle!! XDXD
After attending two universities and the Naval War College, I've had calculus, trig, physics, statistics, four chemistry classes, biochemistry....you name it. After all that I've come to one conclusion about all the good it did me, from the perspective of a gap of 35 years since: I can now count to potato, twice.
Furthermore, I can spell potato correctly. We've all had dreams about what that guy did in his dream, the actual problem aside. Nice post though!
I don't want to not open another math book for the rest of my life :(
@jesal21 I'm interested in reading his calculations, thoughts et cetera leading to his proof that 1 + 1 = 2: could you tell me the page numbers in "Principia Mathematica" where Bertrand Russel proves this? Thanks in advance!
@sekwah09 im just saying that this is practically the first thing you do when studying math at university so it is fair to assume that anyone with any university experience knows it...
1:35 genius just did unnecessary steps, he could've did it all in very few steps and made it look less complicated.
pi*a*b? The formula for Area of an ellipse!? You can derive it from a linear transformation of the unit circle...
I had to do this as an exercise junior year of high school.. I'm pretty sure any professor, or class member, should be able to solve this. Especially if they go to MIT...
@Nefret Parametric equations with Green's Theorem in the plane is easiest.
I love how the last pi ab looks different from the other letters on the board... lolol
come on... this is too easy to calculate...He is not a genius .
love the video man
this is from the movie Rushmore
@braydenbeautiful
It's been 10 months so I'm assuming you finished pChem. How was it? I have to take it in a few years. I'm still a freshman and I'm taking gen chem so far. Seems pretty easy to me so far and orgo is even easier but my average iq is only around 120.
What happened to the tea he was drinking ?? :O
@braydenbeautiful actually they do...do u really think hollywood would spend millions of dollars to make a movie and not spare a few bucks to hire a math professor that can solve this question? what he did on the board makes sense...he just did in a very long-winded way that seems complicated to someone who doesn't know any calculus...otherwise all he did was take the equation of an ellipse, rearrange in terms of x and integrate it from 0 to pi/2 and multiply by 4....
which movie is this from ?
What film is that?
That is not a hard question aha
@gamemaster014 You kidding me ? Even a fresh graduate can proove it.
What's the movie?
did he actually get it right??
nobody will ever know!
@gamemaster014 It is hard because people don't know the notations.
what movie is this?
@chrisofnottingham i'm a cambridge mathematician and i do it like that too. along with half of my lecturers.
Try to solve the Poincare Conjuncture.
@SummerGameProject It's a movie. You're jealous of a fictional scenario?
Name of the song?
which movie it that from ?
Which movie is this ? I mean how can get that boy's face on camera while he writing on the blackboard. :D
@johnny9101 Between where you say "Rearrange the terms" and "Ergo", you take the square root of both sides. But you have to take into consideration that the square root is a multivalued function. So this step is invalid.
Isn't this the problem that Newton had solved and forgotten about until some dude came up to him and found out accidentally, and was astonished?
One of my teachers told me that if antone solves a pie numbers, then you will be rich, be in grad school, and be famous!
Any 1st year maths student could solve this. It's only basic geometry.
there are 2 errors in the solutions....
@SummerGameProject haha exactly
this is one of the simplest problems in mathematics
I was expecting Grigori Perelman behind the newspaper.
Seriously though, this is based on a real incident. George Dantzig did something similar in college, writing down some unproven theorems after walking in class late and figuring out how to do it when he assumed it was a homework assignment.
i bet eienstien can solve that problem
@sekwah09 well , if you knew it why did you write differently in your first comment??
Read Bertrand Russell's proof for 1+1 = 2. That's hard enough.
Knowledge without wisdom is so dangerous. So be careful.
@BrutalValor Solved.
Why bother with all the maths when you can grab a beer and enjoy?
jaja, nice video
hi, this is a movie scene !!!!!!
@gamemaster014 LMAO, i know right.
I could do that problem when a softmore in High School. And I didn't get interested in math until my softmore year when I first took algebra 1. But my GPA still sucked.
LOL/// any IIT aspirant can prove the area of ellipse on finger tips...
LOL... this movie rushmoore... is about a kid dreaming to be a genius.... but he cant never be one ahahhahaha
@braydenbeautiful great response. never judge a book by its cover, intellect is not something that can be predicted as easily as personality...and often they are completely different animals. Work in academia takes the same, if not more sweat blood and mental torment than any other field of work. I know this. We know this. Its not like you get in front of a bunch of people, write down a few equations and BAM you're huge. It takes YEARS of HARD balls-busting work! Even then its not guaranteed!
like a boss
loooooooool
@gamemaster014 pft maybe a stanford professor.
Song name?
This could be done much easier than he did it, if he would have used a double integral , in elliptical coordinates. x=ar*cos(t), y=b*r*sin(t). The Jacobian is J=a*b*r. If D denotes the ellipse and int stands for integral
Then int_{D}1dxdy=int_{0}^{2*Pi}dt*int_{0}^{1} a*b*r dr = Pi*a*b.
That's just calculus 2.
@JackTheNinja11 Actually that is correct, but it's a very complex equation that I doubt any of you can do. this is the way me and my Geometry class did it.
Start with: -20 = -20
Which is the same as: 16-36 = 25-45
Which can also be expressed as: (2+2) 2 (9 X (2+2) = 52) 9 X 5
Add 81/4 to both sides: (2+2) 2 (9 X (2+2) + 81/4 = 52) 9 X 5 + 81/4
Rearrange the terms: ({2+2}) 9/2) 2 = (5-9/2) 2
Ergo: 2+2 - 9/2 = 5
Hence: 2 + 2 = 5
so you aren't lying when you say 2+2=5
Wrote it very neat
its not that hard...after you learn trig substitutions in calc 2 anyone should be able to do this
Genius? Hahaha.., this is funny. Just finding the area of an ellipse by integration and substitutions. What about geometric theory of differentiable manifolds?
@johnny9101 "Which is the same as: 16-36 = 25-45
Which can also be expressed as: (2+2) 2 (9 X (2+2) = 52) 9 X 5"
No it can't.
haha.
What is this from, what's it supposed to be?
@braydenbeautiful Cal 2 was not Hawaii?
area of an ellipse?? I did that in high school!! Not hard at all
@gamemaster014 hahaha well spotted
is this from a movie?
Why the hell is there no asian kid there? ;O
Lmao this probably would be the easiest problem you ever did in a MIT math class, especially if you knew any calculus at all.
Just use the equation for the ellipse, rearrange the form such that y=(blah blah), and integrate y in terms of x. This gives you the area of everything under the equation curve... and that's what you want. OK, yes this is very cursory and there's a lot of details I'm eschewing, but the general idea is very straight-forward.
he made a mistake at 1:27 - 1:29
pfft but does he know that 2+2=5 =P
LOL area of an ellipse. Funny. But at the same time, really gay....
Gee.... Being able to calculate area of an ellipse is the most difficult problem for (MIT) professors?
Get a life....
I'm no genius and I could do it in two minutes years before I even took calc II
You call this dumb question the toughest ??
when I went to school you were bashed for such things, not cheered
what movie is this from?
what movie is this ?
from which movie is this ?
what is the name of this movie ??
what movie is this
which movie is this from?